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Microsoft In Mobile Search Deal With Verizon

kdawson posted more than 5 years ago | from the sea-spider dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Verizon Wireless will forge a deal with Microsoft to include the software giant's Live Search on its mobile phones, giving Microsoft a victory over rival Google and ending a months-long dance toward the partnership. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer will announce the deal in his keynote address at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas." InfoWorld notes that Microsoft is rumored to be changing the name of its Live Search service to Kumo, which is Japanese for "cloud."

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Let me be the first to say... (2, Funny)

Aqua_boy17 (962670) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390259)

...I'm glad my Verizon contract is up.

Re:Let me be the first to say... (4, Interesting)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390383)

...I'm glad my Verizon contract is up.

I don't really care as I'm in the (apparently shrinking) pool of people who only use my cell phone to make and receive phone calls.

Does anybody know what happened to Verizon's much touted plan to provide open access? Funny how we haven't heard anything about that lately isn't it? If I was a cynical person I might assume that they only made that announcement to forestall efforts to impose an open network via the regulatory structure.....

Re:Let me be the first to say... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26390463)

Let's all gather round the ol' fireplace and take turns sucking Steve Balmer's greasy, wrinkly old cock, shall we?

Open Access Not? (1)

wsanders (114993) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390987)

> Does anybody know what happened to Verizon's much touted plan to provide open access?

I thought they had a much touted plan to never provide open access? Unless you count the $50/mo data plan.

I'm a customer, but I'm a luddite that does little more than place phone calls and a few text messages now and then.

Crippled Phones (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26391643)

Have you ever tried to use Verizon phone bluetooth to send or receive files ? You can't it's crippled.

I liked the BB storm but cannot send my mp3's to it or exchange business cards over bluetooth.

I often use the 4gb flash in my nokia e51 as a thumb drive. The best of all dont have to lug a usb cable around. Using OpenSuse and Gnome I can open the contents of the flash drive as an obex [wikipedia.org] folder. Cant do that with verizon phones.

Waiting for a good open moko based phone.

Re:Let me be the first to say... (1)

omb (759389) | more than 5 years ago | (#26392475)

No, your are not I have a n 3100 that I use to make calls, 4+ days idle +6h talk and likes my BMW and a n95 (1d, 2h) that I sometimes use at my desk or if I need a GPRS modem

Re:Let me be the first to say... (1)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 5 years ago | (#26393183)

No, your are not I have a n 3100 that I use to make calls, 4+ days idle +6h talk and likes my BMW and a n95 (1d, 2h) that I sometimes use at my desk or if I need a GPRS modem

Is that HEX? I couldn't decode it, much less parse it.

Re:Let me be the first to say... (1)

dgatwood (11270) | more than 5 years ago | (#26393461)

I believe it was "No, you are not. I have a Nokia N3100 that I use to make calls. I get 4+ days of idle, 6+ hours talk time, and it works well with my BMW (a kind of car) . I also have an N95 (1 day/2 hours) that I sometimes use at my desk or when I need a GPRS modem."

GPRS is a cell phone protocol, and by GPRS modem, the poster was referring to tethering. Clear as mud?

Re:Let me be the first to say... (5, Insightful)

Blob Pet (86206) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390509)

Last month, I had a broken Verizon phone and a year left on my contract. I really wanted an Android-based phone as a replacement, but I figured that would happen later rather than sooner with Verizon given how they like to take their time qualifying new phones (i.e. removing features), so I paid the early termination fee to jump-ship to T-Mobile. With this agreement, it seems even less likely we'll see an Android phone on their network. Even if we did, it'd be amusing to see how they'd try to make MS Live Search the default search engine for it.

so... (2, Funny)

prozaker (1261190) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390261)

it's like a search engine?

In related news... (1)

antek9 (305362) | more than 5 years ago | (#26393795)

Microsoft just announced a change of plans: The company is going to rename its Live Search service to 'Cloud' which is Japanese for 'guy with yellow spikey hair and a big, big sword'. Microsoft representatives expressed their hope that this move would refresh the brand with a more youthful and positive image.

Rejected alternative name suggestions include 'Kumo' which is the German abbreviation for 'Kuestenmotorschiff' (coaster), and 'Develo-Debu' which is Japanese and short for 'scary sweaty fat man yelling "Developers!"'.

Re:In related news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26394107)

Do yourself and the world a favor and never try to be funny again.

This makes for a fine game of Chess. (4, Interesting)

gcnaddict (841664) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390277)

It's interesting how Microsoft nailed Dell for search. They've now got Verizon as well, which leads me to think that either:
  1. Microsoft offered more money, or
  2. companies are getting weary of partnering with Google and dealing with Google's bottomless desire for control.

It'd be interesting to see how all of this plays out.

Re:This makes for a fine game of Chess. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26390381)

I'll tell you what. I don't know much about this MS/Verizon deal, and I don't have time to RTFA, but I will say this:

Tim Tebow bent Bob Stokes over the armchair of his couch last night and anally raped him faster than Kobe Bryant on meth. Stokes took more cock up his ass last night than Hans Reiser in a slippery shower. Sorry Sooners' fans, your team blows donkeys.

Re:This makes for a fine game of Chess. (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26390455)

I'll drop a brown rope to that!

Re:This makes for a fine game of Chess. (1)

JustinOpinion (1246824) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390799)

companies are getting weary of partnering with Google and dealing with Google's bottomless desire for control.

Whereas Microsoft is renowned for their open and transparent processes, their huge efforts towards interoperability and against lock-in, and their thorough willingness to cede control over to others when asked nicely ... ??

Both Google and Microsoft (and every other company, really) have a bottomless desire for control. And really Verizon doesn't care about how much control Google or Microsoft may have over search; except to the extent that this affects their bottom line. So, yes, Microsoft must have offered them a better deal.

Re:This makes for a fine game of Chess. (2, Interesting)

nine-times (778537) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391149)

If people are siding with Microsoft because they're afraid of Google taking anti-competitive actions, then either:

  1. something has happened that I haven't heard about.
  2. the people making the decisions don't know what they're doing.

I'd bet that Microsoft is paying more.

Bottomless desire for control???? (3, Insightful)

brunes69 (86786) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391231)

Lets see - if I get the GPhone from T-Mobile I can replace any application I want on it, right down to the kernel. I can totally customize it from the ground up, and use anything I want on it to access any information I want.

Name one Verizon phone that lets me do this? Hell I doubt I will even be able to uninstall this Live Search POS.

Re:Bottomless desire for control???? (3, Interesting)

Korin43 (881732) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391523)

Hah you clearly have never used a Verizon phone.
Not only can you not customize anything (except using the 3 themes it comes with), but you can't install ANY application without paying $5-15 (keep in mind these are all clones of games from the 80's with their characters replaced with people from movies), and you can't use the GPS without paying $9/mo for their crappy GPS service which doesn't integrate with other programs. Oh and did I mention that if you want to add your own programs you have to pay a couple thousand dollars?

Re:Bottomless desire for control???? (1)

PalmKiller (174161) | more than 5 years ago | (#26392349)

Sounds like a hackers dream, and a script kiddies nightmare

Re:Bottomless desire for control???? (1)

talz13 (884474) | more than 5 years ago | (#26392471)

Or, you could buy a windows mobile phone and install a custom rom on it [ppcgeeks.com]
I love my windows mobile phones, not necessarily because of windows mobile, but rather because it tends to be the more "open" of the mobile OSes. I know, I know, it's not android, but you can do all sorts of things with it anyway. You can set up a custom rom to contain all the apps you want, you can make script files to install your apps from a flash card after a flash or hard reset, you can reg tweak (on a phone... yikes!)...

Disclaimer: I have Sprint.

Re:Bottomless desire for control???? (1)

LaughingCoder (914424) | more than 5 years ago | (#26392723)

but you can't install ANY application without paying $5-15 ... Oh and did I mention that if you want to add your own programs you have to pay a couple thousand dollars?(

Uh-oh. I guess I'd better uninstall that application I wrote and installed on my Verizon Samsung Saga phone last weekend. And all those 3rd party apps I DL'd and installed too. Thanks for warning me!

Re:Bottomless desire for control???? (1)

hey! (33014) | more than 5 years ago | (#26394127)

I have a Versizon HTC 5800 Windows Mobile Smartphone. It's completely locked down, which was a surprise since I'd used Palm based smartphones before and they were pretty much what you'd expect: a PDA phone.

You have to enter a few registry entries, and voila, the PDA part of the phone is open and you can install your own apps. Google is your friend.

Lack of access to the GPS seems to be a pretty common theme in most phone platforms. I believe the way the phones are architected deliberately assumes that the GPS is there for the network provider, not for you.

Re:This makes for a fine game of Chess. (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 5 years ago | (#26392021)

Or they can do more with Microsoft options. Googles Don't Be Evil may confect with Versions plan for charging for breathing.

"Kumo" as a Search name? (5, Funny)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390289)

They should name it "bukakke" because the search results would just keep pourin' in!

And also because using MS is humiliating.

Re:"Kumo" as a Search name? (1)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390399)

You owe me a new monitor ;)

Re:"Kumo" as a Search name? (1)

Spazztastic (814296) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390533)

They should name it "bukakke" because the search results would just keep pourin' in!

Mod parent funny. It's more accurate then cloud. Would you want your results to evaporate? I think not.

Re:"Kumo" as a Search name? (1)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391187)

Will this be the search engine on Zune?

"Heey girl! Lemme google that song for you on Kumo, and I'll be squirting it to ya in a second! Girl? Hey girl?"

Not all Kumo means. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26392931)

Kumo can also mean spider. I think it appropriate.

Cloud? (4, Insightful)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390291)

Cloud?! Will the marketroids PLEASE stop referring to the Internet and everything else in it as a 'cloud'!

Thank you. That is all.

Re:Cloud? (4, Funny)

MikeDirnt69 (1105185) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390447)

What about 'fog'? People won't find anything.

Re:Cloud? (1)

smooth wombat (796938) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390739)

What about 'fog'?

As in the velour fog [wikipedia.org] ?

Re:Cloud? (1)

AceofSpades19 (1107875) | more than 5 years ago | (#26395087)

How about The Mist, it will certainly keep the population down

Re:Cloud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26391039)

Possible sarcastic responses:

"Hey you, get off of my You-Know-What!"

"Maybe people should get their heads out of the You-Know-Whats first."

"Well, aren't WE raining orders down from the You-Know-Whats!"

"I don't think 'Remote-Server-Connected-Via-ARPA-Designed-Internetworking-Communication-Protocol Computing' has a good ring to it."

Re:Cloud? (1)

NoobixCube (1133473) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391769)

I've always wanted to ask someone in charge of a company's "cloud services" what happens when it rains. The look of mortification, and seeing him run from the room screaming about umbrellas would be worth it.

Re:Cloud? (1)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 5 years ago | (#26392523)

Well, if you look at virtually any network diagram that includes a connection to the internet, the Internet is represented by a cloud.

Re:Cloud? (1)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 5 years ago | (#26393099)

we should have picked boobies then.
stupid cloud.

Re:Cloud? (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#26393871)

Yeah, but we'd probably all be the first in line to buy some 'boobies computing'!

Re:Cloud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26392907)

Wait until "cloud" is too generic for the marketroids branding purposes.

Next they'll be branding things with cumulus, stratus, cirrus, and nimbus for their cloud services.

Then they'll move onto more specific cloud types like "Stratocumulus" for branding.

And then they'll take the cloud brand all the way to "stratocumulus praecipitatio".

Re:Cloud? (1)

kindbud (90044) | more than 5 years ago | (#26393223)

"That is a worship word. You will not speak it." - Cloud William

Kumo? (1)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390307)

Isn't that, like, almost the name of the Steven King movie? The one wih the rabid dog?

Re:Kumo? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26390365)

Why would you come up with that? Because Microsoft is a "rabid dog"? You're nonsensical. If anything, Microsoft is like a sumo wrestler... big and strong, throws its weight around, but is very stupid and gets tossed out of the ring half the time.

Like your fucking mother.

Re:Kumo? (4, Funny)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390617)

Isn't that, like, almost the name of the Steven King movie? The one wih the rabid dog?

No no no. You're thinking of Carrie.

Re:Kumo? (0, Redundant)

HockeyPuck (141947) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390773)

Isn't that, like, almost the name of the Steven King movie? The one wih the rabid dog?

No no no. You're thinking of Carrie.

WRONG The book was Cujo.... Carrie was about the telepathic girl.

Re:Kumo? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26390941)

Whoosh.

Re:Kumo? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26392695)

You only get to use "whoosh" if the joke is actually funny.

Re:Kumo? (0, Flamebait)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391103)

Your mommy shouldn't let you on the grown-up's internet.

Re:Kumo? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26391105)

'tard.

Re:Kumo? (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391081)

It's Cujo.

Kumo was his spastic drooling brother.

Will we have choice? (1)

Ken Broadfoot (3675) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390313)

Can we switch it if we desire?

Re:Will we have choice? (1)

Penguinisto (415985) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391285)

Sure: Use the phone's default web browser to open Google's Mobile Page [google.com] , and download Google Mobile App to your phone. Works like a charm.

/P

Vortex of Infiinite Suckitude. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26390341)

"Verizon Wireless will forge a deal with Microsoft to include the software giant's Live Search on its mobile phones, giving Microsoft a victory over rival Google and ending a months-long dance toward the partnership.

Verizon: Our firmware sucks the chrome off a trailer hitch.
Microsoft: Our search platform sucks harder than a fluffer on a geezer porn set, and our operating systems suck bowling balls through straws.

This is the foundation for a vortex of suck powerful enough to suck galactic-sized black holes through buckytubes. What's next, everything has to run under Vista CE?

Re:Vortex of Infiinite Suckitude. (1)

peragrin (659227) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391191)

If only vista was strong enough to suck a bowling ball through a straw. At least it would be good for something. It currently struggles to suck air through a straw.
 

Re:Vortex of Infiinite Suckitude. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26392281)

By suck you mean the 2nd most used operating system in the world..

The jealousy is plain. MS has a superior OS and Linux is a huge failure on the desktop. 0.85% market share, at a time when OSX sales are picking up a bit, Linux is down in the dumps. How sad..

Maybe its time for distros to take a trip to redmond and learn how to make a real OS that 90% of the world uses. I'm sure Ballmer can throw some pity cash at you smelly linux commies.

http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2009-01/msg02552.html [derkeiler.com]

YEAH OF THE LINUX !! HUZZAH !

That is .. if it doesnt keep crashing.. damn I wish there was someone to sue for the shitty linux code..

Will they be paying users to use search? (3, Interesting)

Vandil X (636030) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390349)

Seeing as how Verizon likes to charge a lot for its data plans, will Microsoft re-issue its previous plan of paying people for using Live Search? Would be a way to offset the mobile data cost.

"You have one minute left on your call..." (4, Funny)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390915)

"Please enter a search term to pay for the next ten minutes. The search results and limited advertising will be randomly inserted during awkward pauses in your conversation."

Nice try Microsoft (1)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390431)

While I think this is a great move on its part, Microsoft faces an uphill battle as the word "google" is now a verb. By the way, will I be in position to change Verizon's new default search engine (Live Search) back to Google? Hackers anyone?

Re:Nice try Microsoft (3, Funny)

vux984 (928602) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390515)

Microsoft faces an uphill battle as the word "google" is now a verb.

"Microsoft" can be used as a verb too. Trouble is...if I were to say I'm going to "Microsoft something" its not exactly a positive image.

Re:Nice try Microsoft (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391293)

I'm going to wash your mouth out with soap, young man!

-- Your mother

Re:Nice try Microsoft (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26391491)

Microsoft faces an uphill battle as the word "google" is now a verb.

Isn't Google worried about becoming a genericized trademark? Wouldn't it really hurt if they lost the right to register the trademark. Rollerblade had campaign to promote people to say they are inline skating not rollerblading.

Re:Nice try Microsoft (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26394041)

kuso comes to mind as a Japanese word to describe Microsoft :D

Re:Nice try Microsoft (1)

spectecjr (31235) | more than 5 years ago | (#26395379)

By the way, will I be in position to change Verizon's new default search engine (Live Search) back to Google?

You obviously have no idea how Live Search mobile works. If you want to use Google's search, open your browser and go to Google. If you want to use Live Search Mobile, open the Live Search app and use that. It even has speech recognition. It's pretty bad-ass to be honest.

I like cell phones (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26390445)

Everyone calls me and they are like, "wassup, dawg?" And I'm like yo, wassup wicchew, homie? And everybody's like, "chillin, homie, chillin." And I'm like, word. That's whassup. Yo then theres texting my girlfriends and like, internet and shit, yo. Yo, cell phones is da fly shiznit, yo. Word.

Re:I like cell phones (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26390729)

Yo dawg, I herd yo and yo dawg like yo yos, so we put yo dawg in a yo yo so yo can yo yo yo dawg while yo dawg yo yos, dawg

Forgery (1)

seniorcoder (586717) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390553)

It doesn't surprise me that Verizon would forge something. It doesn't surprise me that Microsoft would participate in forgery.

In Japanese (4, Interesting)

BetterSense (1398915) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390583)

"kumo" can also mean "spider"

What's in a name? (0)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390647)

Microsoft is rumored to be changing the name of its Live Search service to Kumo , which is Japanese for "cloud."

I'm guessing it's so they can trademark "Kumo" in the non-Japanese speaking world. In Japan, I'm sure it'll be called/trademarked "Cloud" ... sigh.

And why would anyone call a search engine/service "Cloud"?
[Dear Marketing People, please, please kill yourselves now.]

Re:What's in a name? (2, Funny)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390727)

[Dear Marketing People, please, please kill yourselves now.]

Yes. All of you.
(Just wanted to be clear on this point.)

The answer (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390869)

And why would anyone call a search engine/service "Cloud"?

Obviously, because the service is all wet.

Re:The answer (1)

peragrin (659227) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391225)

Isn't it called cloud because it is the ultimate in vaporware?

Re:What's in a name? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26391101)

If the only reason for a strange name is "it worked for google", then google has very little to worry about. google had a good product _before_ they choose there name.

Re:What's in a name? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26391965)

If the only reason for a strange name is "it worked for google", then google has very little to worry about. google had a good product _before_ they choose there name.

Not there, their, dummy.

Who cares? (3, Insightful)

thammoud (193905) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390659)

Unless the phone is retarded, users will still bookmark Google and conduct the search there just like they do in Windows.

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26390819)

THEN WHO WAS PHONE?

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26390925)

PENIS GOES WHERE?

Re:Who cares? (4, Funny)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391093)

You are trying to switch your search engine to Google? [Cancel] or [Allow] Allow
Are you sure? [Cancel] or [Allow] Allow
Please hold while we connect you a Verizon Service Representative [Cancel] or [Allow] Allow

"Hello this is Tom? How can I help you?"
Can you hear the representative now? [Yes] or [No] Yes
"Yes, I'd like to change the search engine on me phone."
Can you hear him now? [Yes] or [No]
"For the love of God, yes!"

Re:Who cares? (1)

MMC Monster (602931) | more than 5 years ago | (#26392517)

Invalid answer. Default answer [No] selected.

Re:Who cares? (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391119)

Yeah, but most phones are pretty retarded.

Re:Who cares? (1)

FrostDust (1009075) | more than 5 years ago | (#26392117)

Unless the phone is retarded

Being Verizon, this is the rule, rather than the exception:

*Using Bluetooth for anything other than a headset is impossible, unless you start hacking the phone.

*Proprietary mini-usb ports that artificially only allow Verizon-produced chargers to charge the device. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMU_connector/ [wikipedia.org] .

*Trying to use multimedia outside of it's VCast system (you can't use a video clip/ringtone/wallpaper/application on your phone unless you bought it through VCast).


I wouldn't be entirely surprised if Verizon made it impossible for the user to change the homepage. I'd also suspect them of redirecting all web searches through Microsoft's service, if not for Google being the juggernaut it is.

And now begins... (2, Insightful)

stimuli_ii (1266556) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390669)

The Microsoft hate circle jerk...

as well as the obligatory (1)

Reality Master 201 (578873) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391305)

And deeply insightful remarks about anti-MS prejudice at Slashdot.

Maybe instead of coming to a place where the exact same thing happens every time a story like this crops up, you could go someplace else where you wouldn't be frustrated.

Or you could eat a nice big dick.

Re:as well as the obligatory (1)

stimuli_ii (1266556) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391377)

Or.... I could point out that there is no reason why this story should be on the front page except for the circle jerk factor. Microsoft Live on a Verizon phone...Really? That's the biggest news in tech today? ...now get back in your mothers basement you little troll.

Re:as well as the obligatory (1)

Reality Master 201 (578873) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391923)

...now get back in your mothers basement you little troll.

I live in your mom's basement, dude - it makes it more convenient for when I fuck her in the ass.

Pyrrhic Victory (2, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390837)

giving Microsoft a victory over rival Google

Is that really a victory for Microsoft, or a loss for Verizon?

People will just use Google anyhow (1)

JSBiff (87824) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391797)

If your phone has a web browser, and you are truly free to go to any website, then nothing stops anyone from still using Google, even if it isn't the default.

Anyhow, this is just one more reason, among many, of why I'm glad I'm switching to T-Mo (though, to be fair, I'm not gonna get a smart phone or a data plan - I can't justify spending $60/mo just to surf the web on my phone, or $100/mo for an unlimited-everything plan, if Verizon has one, like Sprint's. That is just *too much money* to spend on a phone, unless you are using it for business purposes and really do depend on constant connectivity to make your livelyhood.

Awesome! (4, Funny)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 5 years ago | (#26390945)

Except of course that Verizon charges and arm and a leg for unlimited data, so Microsoft just spent millions on making sure about 114 people will get their search engine as the default.

Re:Awesome! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26391271)

You forgot the quotes around unlimited. Fuck if I get unlimited data on my "unlimited" data plan with Verizon. Maybe if I ignore the "limit" that they consider suspicious for streaming music or video, which they say you can't do. Oh wait, that's why they gave me VCast and claimed it's all nice. But I never use it because it sucks and doesn't have shit towards what I actually want.

Wait... I think I understand why this deal happened. Microsoft and Verizon have the same mindset... Lock you in to their products as best they can and call it everything you ever wanted, when it's not everything you ever wanted. At all.

Re:Awesome! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26391537)

Except of course that Verizon charges and arm and a leg for unlimited data, so Microsoft just spent millions on making sure about 114 people will get their search engine as the default.

The project, which is called DocumentCloud, would let news organizations upload their materials for public consumption and analysis. (âReaders will also be able to quickly search, annotate and bookmark documents â" and for the first time link directly to specific pages or passages.â)

The proposal relies on a piece of software called DocViewer, which was developed by the Timesâ(TM) Interactive Newsroom Technologies team. The head of that team, Aron Pilhofer, recently confirmed that the Times will release DocViewer as open source âoesometime after the election.â Brian Boyer, the blogger who broke that news, said the software was created by the Times for its searchable database of Hillary Clintonâ(TM)s 11,000-page public schedule as first lady, which was a journalistic marvel.

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Poor Microsoft (1)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391161)

"giving Microsoft a victory over rival Google"

This is a great moment. For a second their I thought their monopoly was in trouble.

I wish (1)

bigpaperbag (1105581) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391427)

I could use my moderate points to mod down everyone who promotes use of the word "cloud"

change name, pay 2x more for usage - still a dog (1)

Locutus (9039) | more than 5 years ago | (#26391497)

it's a tough battle for them when people use will use this know how good the competition is. It's not like their Windows monopoly where most users are not even aware of any of the other computer systems except maybe some know _of_ the Mac. Most people use Google for search on other devices so changing the name and paying Verison twice what the deal Google had is only going to continue the financial losses at Microsoft in every division outside of MS Windows and MS Office. IMO.

LoB

buh-bye VZ (1)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 5 years ago | (#26392187)

Yeah, thanks, I'll be switching when my phone contract comes up. Sorry Ballmer, throw your chair at someone else. You douche.

Live sounds much better now (1)

PalmKiller (174161) | more than 5 years ago | (#26392269)

I just thought the "live" brand was stupid, I like it a little better now facing kumo as the new name.

Flop (1)

omb (759389) | more than 5 years ago | (#26392413)

This is the classic example of what is wrong with the splintered culture in the US. The SMART dinousour business men make a completely dumb decision because the go to the same country club, and still think all the sheeple will follow.

I've already got Google on my home screen. (1)

Laser_iCE (1125271) | more than 5 years ago | (#26392447)

Google Mobile [google.com] has had a whole heap of apps available to download to your phone for free, such as their Google Search [google.com] plugin for your Windows Mobile home screen.

Re:I've already got Google on my home screen. (1)

Laser_iCE (1125271) | more than 5 years ago | (#26392529)

Google Mobile [google.com] has had a whole heap of apps available to download to your phone for free, such as their Google Search [google.com] plugin for your Windows Mobile home screen.

Hmmm. After clicking my links and realising it wasn't available to download, have a read of this [google.com] .

HA! Finally.... (1)

lightsaber777 (920815) | more than 5 years ago | (#26392787)

I've been waiting for a good reason to get out of my Verizon account for a while now and they have just given it to me.

Most frequently performed search on Kumo: (1)

IGnatius T Foobar (4328) | more than 5 years ago | (#26392873)

"Google"

Damn (1)

HermMunster (972336) | more than 5 years ago | (#26393559)

I don't want Microsoft in my life. They are criminally convicted monopolists. The world needs to move on to companies that can abide by the laws. We don't need the influences of Microsoft any more. We are no longer babies needing their hand holding. The industry is maturing. We need less Microsoft and more competition, especially in the OS and Office type application markets.

Re:Damn (1)

spectecjr (31235) | more than 5 years ago | (#26395401)

I don't want Microsoft in my life. They are criminally convicted monopolists. The world needs to move on to companies that can abide by the laws. We don't need the influences of Microsoft any more. We are no longer babies needing their hand holding. The industry is maturing. We need less Microsoft and more competition, especially in the OS and Office type application markets.

That's nice. It has nothing to do with the cellphone market though.

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