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Trojan Found At Torrent Sites Insists "Downloading Is Wrong"

Soulskill posted more than 5 years ago | from the attack-of-conscience dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 345

NoisySplatter writes "Ernesto, founder of TorrentFreak, reports that a new trojan, 'Troj/Qhost-AC,' has been distributed on The Pirate Bay. The virus was disguised as a serial key generator, and the offending torrent has since been removed, but the source has not been identified. Troj/Qhost-AC makes changes to the user's hosts file that redirects The Pirate Bay, Suprbay, and Mininova to 127.0.0.1. In addition to making three popular torrent sites inaccessible, the virus also plays a sound file that says: 'downloading is wrong.' It looks like someone has finally stepped up to the plate to challenge Madonna for the title of 'Most Obnoxious Anti-Piracy Stunt.' Of course, this could just be the software industry's attempt at outdoing the RIAA and MPAA."

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Nice (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396381)

There once was a man who could boast
that due to his low latency host
when blog posts went down,
he was always around
to sit down and type swiftly "FIRST POST"

Re:Nice (-1, Troll)

bigblacknigger (1440657) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396423)

I sat naked on the bench in the health club locker room, staring at the tiles on the floor between my feet, but really looking at nothing. I was waiting for Jamal to decide to come up ant talk to me. He was this muscular teenage nigger who frequented the club and had ruined my life in the last few weeks. I was ordered to sit naked on the bench without a towel or anything to cover my nakedness. I had to keep my legs spread and my cock and balls visible for the anyone In the locker room who wanted a look. I knew instantly that it had been a mistake to sign up at the inner city health club which was eighty percent black, but It was near my house and cheap which was even more important.

The harassment had started on my first visit. Dark skinned, muscular black boys bouncing around the locker room with their huge dicks and pendulous sacks of balls swinging, high fiving each other and laughing and rapping, and there I was, this moderately built white guy of thirty two.

I will never forget coming back from the shower and one chocolate skinned thug of about eighteen let out a "weeeeeeeow" kind of sound and then said very loudly to me, loudly enough for all his pals to hear, "White man, how the hell can you fuck wit such a small dick?" They all roared with laughter and I turned bright red. Before I left that first time, I med Jamal. He eased up to me while I was packing my gym bag. He is one good looking darkie, I will say that for him. He flashed me a big white toothed smile and said he hoped I wasn't thinking of quitting the club. He said he was friends with the manager and they had my address and shit, and it would be really unfortunate if I decided to quit. Then he laid one large basketball player sized hand on my shoulder and said that he would see me at the same time the next day.

Well, that's how it started. It got worse each time I went to the club. Jamal and the other niggers got me to get towels for them, had me scrub their backs in the shower, even made me pick their dirty stinking jock straps up off the floor. They sent their filthy jocks and socks home with me to wash for them.

Now let me state here once and for all, that I am in no way at all gay. I don't think I ever even had a gay thought. So all of this really repulsed me. They would brush up against me so their big fat black dicks rubbed my body. They would make constant jokes about me being a faggot.

So I had it out with Jamal. I told him I was a single parent with a thirteen year old daughter and in no way gay, and I wanted to quit the club. That mention of my daughter was the biggest mistake of my life. Jamal demanded to see a photo of her. Her name is Crissy. After that, all they talked about was "Crissy the Cunt" in the locker room.

"Some fourteen year old school boy probably shoving his dick in her right now while you is at da club."

They would say things like that. Jamal would ask, "Do you suppose she had ever sucked black dick?" I told them she was totally innocent, and they should keep their foul mouths to themselves. They beat the shit out of me.

I didn't go to the club for a week. All the windows were broken on my car, and my newspaper was stolen, and somebody pissed all over our door. I received a package at work, and when I opened it, there was a pile of shit in a box. I was going nuts with anguish. I thought of going to the police, but I knew I would face even worse if I did. So I went back to the club. That was two months ago. A lot had happened in those two months.

Now I sat waiting for Jamal to speak with me. He walked up, stark naked. The first thing I saw were his huge brown feet next to me. I looked up at his long muscular legs. How could I miss the seven inch flaccid dick, thick as a flashlight and the ball sack that looked like it had oranges in it. It was fucking obscene. His stomach was hard and tight. His ass was one of those round tight nigger bubble butts. His chest well defined with large nipples. He had a killer smile, thick nigger lips, and dark flashing eyes that often looked drugged. He had only recently gotten out of reform school for molesting a girl on the playground.

"So, my man, how's that little dick of yours hangin'?"

I spread my legs wider so he could see my pathetic shriveled white prick and small ball sack. If I didn't keep myself on display for them at all times, they would have a wet towel snapping session where my scrotum was the target. It hurt like hell and was totally humiliating.

"So, bro, is everything set up for tomorrow?" He stood close to me...so close that his huge flaccid hunk of fuck meat brushed my shoulder. His dick was so huge, it was just fucking obscene, and that was in its flaccid state. He had not showered yet, and his body reeked of the nigger stink of his workout.

"Please. Please don't do this. I know I agreed, but that was after you had beaten me almost senseless. Please, isn't there some other way?"

He lifted one leg and put his foot on the bench next to me. His gigantic balls swung back and forth in their fleshy sack.

"Dere is no other fucking way, man. You don't wanna even think of what we gonna do to you next time you disobeys us. Dere is no other way. Now it so happens dat I needs me a new girlfriend, and your pretty little daughter fills da bill."

I felt my stomach turn over. I tried to relax, to breath deeply, but I felt like I was choking. This teenage nigger thug was talking about my daughter. My little Crissy. My thirteen year old angel. He had announced to me that he wanted her to become his girlfriend! Jesus Christ!

At first I had bluntly refused, letting my anger and disgust show. All the niggers in the club gathered around me, about fifteen of them, and Jamal announced that I was racially prejudiced and didn't want him dating his white daughter. They started to slap and punch me.

"It's not that. Honest to God, I swear, it's not that you are black. It's that she is only thirteen. She's my innocent baby!"

Jamal roared with laughter. "Any bitch of thirteen is totally ready for dick! She probably sucking da boys at school every day anyway by now." He looked at the photo of her which he had taken from me. "Yeah, she got real cocksucker lips, she shore do!"

"Oh God no, she's just a baby." I was crying in front of all of them.

"No, daddy, you gots it wrong. She is a babe...not a baby. Dat pretty little pussy is ready for some nigger popping!" Half the niggers surrounding me were getting hard ons, and I don't there there was one under eight and a half inches.

For weeks I had argued, begged, pleaded, tried to bargain with Jamal, but he only wanted one thing. My daughter's virgin pussy. Once I stood up to them and told them I would go to the police. They had dragged me naked and screaming into the health club bathroom and forced me to eat turds out of the toilet bowl. I was sick for two days. The next time I went to the club, Jamal had made me suck his dick. That was the first time I saw it erect. Over twelve inches of throbbing leaking nigger cock. I had a panic attack and literally tried to run out of the club.

They held me down on a bench and Jamal fed me his black fuck meat. His balls almost suffocated me. His dick choked me. He even made me suck his ass. What could I do? I agreed to let them have my daughter. I know, I am an awful man. A sinner. It is unforgivable, but I am scared out of my wits.

"So, tomorrow, I comes over to yo house dressed up real good. You introduce me to yo bitch daughter. Now when I sees her, dis is how I wants her dressed. A very tight tee shirt dat says printed on it, "I Love Nigga Dick!" She will wear no bra under it so I can see the tips of her budding little titties through the material. Den she is to wear her nice pleated cheer leader skirt like in da photo, only I don want her to wear no panties under it. From now on, yo daughter is forbidden to ever wear any panties. We want dat fresh young cunt and ass ready and available at all times. I want you to have some really top drawer booze at yo house ready for me. I am not sure what I will want, so you better have enough to satisfy me, whatever my taste might be. Who da fuck knows, I may want a cosmo, or maybe some of dat Louis XIII Brandy dat costs three hundred dollars. You better have it all. After I has a drink, you pretty little bitch and I gonna sit on da couch and get acquainted. Dat means you as da daddy get to watch me finger her cunt and play wit her titties. You gets to see her meet my big fat old dick and even lick and suck it a little. I always insists on sex on da first date, cause how else you know how a bitch perform, right? Shit, I insist on sex on every date. I mean dat is da only reason for da fucking date..to plow some pussy! Right? Otherwise I'd rather hang wit da home boys. Now she gonna be a little uptight and scared at firs...right? Specially when she see my dick and she know dat huge motherfucker is gonna plow her virgin twat! Oh yea, if she got any hair on her cunt yet, you make sure she shave it all off before tomorrow. I wanna see bald thirteen year old pussy."

While he said all of this to me at the health club, his dick got thicker and thicker and long strings of pre-fuck started to hang from the fat pisshole.

"Please don't hurt her...please." I was shaking in my naked agony.

"Hurt her? No why the fuck would I hurt my new girlfriend? I gonna love her. I gonna show her da pleasures of lovemaking. Shore, it gonna hurt a little da first time I ram my twelve and a half inch motherfucking dick balls deep into her tight little teenage pussy. Shore it gonna hurt when I pounds her as hard as I can, and den pull out and shove it as hard as I can up her little asshole. Shore dat gonna hurt a little, but dat is jus' part of growin' up. A her daddy, you understand dat. Right? Better to hab some nice boy like me who wants her for his girlfriend fucking her, den every boy at school who don't give a shit about her. "Now don't you worry, I gonna take her into the bedroom to fuck her cunt and ass. I think dat is private. I mean, you can watch da first time she suck my balls and lick my dick and such. But fucking is between a guy and his girlfriend. I wants you dere at the start...at the sucking part, cause she is gonna be scared like I say, and you can calm her. Tell her it is a natural part of life, and she just gotta learn to please a man. She, she shoulda learned dat couple of years ago already. She is a late bloomer. Now I am gonna want to use her bedroom for da first fuck,cause I wants to fuck her little bitch body in her teenage bed, wit all her teenage shit around. It will be so hot. But den, I is moving into your master bedroom. You can sleep on da couch. I wants a nice big bed and luxury for future fucks. I gotta fuck at least three times a day, usually more. Now of course I still going to be bangin' other cunt, but I will fuck your daughter regularly cause she is my number one girlfriend. My special bitch. I ain't gonna introduce her to my bros until after I fuck her for a week or so. Den when she broken in, I gonna share her with all da boys from dis here health club. Dere about twenty of us here as you know, so she gonna be pretty busy sucking nigga dick and getting ass and cunt fucked. We gonna do mos' of it over at yo house. You have lots of food dere at all times fo my brothers when dey comes over to fuck your daughter. Since she be fucking most every day all day and night from now on, I suggest you apply to home school her. Dat way, she don't even need to think about school and she can concentrate on nigga cock all da time."

"Please, please use condoms...." I had tears running down my face.

Jamal roared with laughter. "Condoms? Shit...no. We never use condoms. It ruins da fuck. Dat little bitch gonna be pregnant in a couple of weeks at mos'. You gonna be da grand daddy of a nigga chile! And who knows. She young. If she stay tight enough and cute enough, maybe we fuck her for three or four years, you know, pass her around, pimp her out. Shit, she still young enough. She could hab five or six nigga babies! We don' allow no abortions. She gonna breed. Now my brothers and daddy be comin' over lots to fuck her too, so you better have lots of keys to yo house made, or jus' leave the fucking place unlocked. She don't leave da house without permission. I would hate it for both of you if some black bro comes over for a good hard fuck, and she not dere! Now I know you worried about her. Don' be. After a few days of getting nigga dick, she gonna love it so much, dat all she gonna live for. I seen it in young white bitches lots of times. Someday she gonna thank you for all dis. I mean how many girls her age so lucky to get ten to fifteen black cocks a day? Long as her pussy and asshole hold up, she be happy. One thing, she gonna hab to be a really good cocksucker, cause One thig is dat when da boys in my hood meet up wit guys from other gangs...we got dis thing. We hab our girlfriends suck da cocks of all da members of the other gangs, as kind of a peace signal, you know, a sign dat we is kewl and everything is okay. So she gonna pretty much hab a dick in her mouth twenty-four seven for da next few months. She gonna be sucking on nigga dick even when she getting fucked by my bros. Dis house gonna be pretty packed full of black boys! Now, after a bitch has sucked fifteen to twenty dicks a day, she often get a real tired jaw and swollen lips and a sore tongue, so you gonna have to tell her no matter how tired she get, da last dick of da day she suck, gets jus' as good a suck as da first one in da morning. You gotta make sue she understand that. I can't have no bad reports from rival gangs dat my bitch can't suck! Now we gots one more problem. Da little bitch gonna be so busy getting fucked and sucking dick, she ain't gonna hab no proper time to clean up da dicks after dey fuck her cunt and ass! You know it da bitch's job to clean a dick wit her mouth after a brother fuck her. I mean, you can't expect a brother to walk around wit pussy slime or ass juice on his dick. But she gonna be so busy, she ain't always gonna hab time to clean up, so you my friend is going to have to step up to da plate to help her. You gonna be the official dick cleaner. You gonna lick and suck da dicks clean after dey fuck yo bitch of a daughter. I want you naked on you hands and knees at all times around da house, ready to lick and suck dick clean. And you gonna do a fine job too, I just know it. You get all dat stink off da cock. Maybe you can entertain da brothers waiting next in line to fuck yo daughter too by lickig dere balls and assholes. I never thought of dat until just now. Hot damn, dat is a good idea, ain't it? So dey don't get bored while dey waitin. And den, to keep your daughter fresh and tight, after every three or four fucks, you gonna crawl in and suck the nigga cum right outta her pussy and asshole. Think how great dat is. You gonna get to suck some thirteen year old pussy and asshole! How lucky is dat? You gonna clean out her cunt real good with yo tongue so it is ready for da next nigga. We gonna be da happiest family you ever seen! Now come on, white boy, suck my dick, can't you see it dripping all over da floor?"

I put my mouth over the head of the huge leaking hunk of fuckmeat, and resigned myself and my daughter to our new destiny.

---

How a life can change in an instant. Everything one thought and believed can be shattered on the rocks of an uncharted coast of a new experience. Here I was, a happy English teacher, twenty-five years old with a lovely wife and a five-year old daughter. I was teaching in a good urban school, considered something of a boy-genius by my colleagues, respected by parents, and loved by most of my students. And then one fateful day, everything changed because of Jesse Coulter.

It was right after school, and I was seated at my desk correcting some papers when I noticed his lanky sixteen year old form standing before me. Jesse and I had not gotten along, did not get along well at all. That's because he was a very lazy teenage boy. He got through high school thus far on his basketball skills, and most other teachers seemed to turn a blind eye on the fact that he was charming them with his skill on the court and his million dollar smile. He didn't like English Class. I guess it clashed with his "street jargon."

Hell, he didn't like schoolwork of any kind. What he did like was fucking every girl he could get his large black hands on. And from what I heard around school, it wasn't just large black hands that won the young white girls over. Talk was he was endowed like a horse.

I mean, I knew several teachers who visited the boys' locker room just to verify the rumor. These were straight teachers. And the report they gave was that the rumor was correct. The handsome black boy got on well with other students, but they all treated him with some kind of special respect, like he was untouchable, above them in some way. In the lunch room for example, when he came to a table, other kids would move aside, or even leave if he told them to.

Now, handsome, black, Jesse Coulter stood before my desk. He should have been playing basketball, and I was the reason he wasn't.

"You get me benched?" He asked with a thick, husky, masculine voice.

"No Jesse, you got yourself benched. You didn't hand in the last two homework assignments, and you failed the last three tests."

He stood up talker, straightening his shoulders which usually slouched. "I been busy."

I looked uip at him. He was handsome, I had to say that for him. So dark with flashing teeth.

"Too busy to do your schoolwork? Then maybe you need a break from basketball."

"You know the school never go for that. I the star of the school."

"Not this week. Not until you get those assignments in and do better on the check tests."

"Fuck that."

I snapped up. I could feel the heat of anger rising from my reddening face.

"Don't you speak that way to me!"

Suddenly I was standing in front of him. I could smell his musk. He was about my height, but only sixteen. His strong face had an arrogance about it that was intimidating.

"Look, teach, how the fuck can I take time out to study, when I got to play basketball and fuck half the white pussy in the school?"

I was speechless. I just stood there.

"An, then there's all them female teachers in the school like Miss Mortenson who need my big black dick. And all them faggot teachers too."

"That is enough. I want you out of here and down to the office. Now!"

His eyes burned cold, the white around the cornea clear and ivory.

"Listen, Asswipe. You think I gonna let one cocksucking teacher fuck up my position here at the school? Shit, I already offered two scholarships to good colleges, and I only a sophomore. You the one who is gonna get on board here and learn some respect for a black star like me!"

And with that, he slapped me. He drew back one large black hand and slapped my face, hard. My head spun. I had never experienced anything like it in my life. I grant you, I am not a very physical person, although I do swim at the gym to keep a fairly good body. I am not into sports, and prefer Faulkner to Football. And this teenage black boy had just slapped me. I reached out to grab a fistful of his t-shirt, but he slapped my hands away as easily as swatting a fly. Then he grabbed my jaw in one large hand.

"We gonna do some extra-curricular work here with me as the teacher and you as the student. We gonna teach you how to respect the black man!" He almost lifted me off the floor by the one hand on my face. Then with his other hand he grabbed my crotch. He grabbed my balls.

"Shit, don't feel like you got much down here. Like most white boys, all talk and no fuck! How the fuck do you please your wife? Suck pussy all the time?" He squeezed harder and harder, until I was sure I was ruined for life and the room began to spin around me. Then he dropped me to the floor. I heard it before I saw anything. I heard him lower the zipper on his baggy jeans.

This could not be happening. There had been something in between I missed. Some gap in events that explained all of this. I was on the floor, my necktie twisted around my shoulder, my trousers wrinkled, and my balls throbbing and sending shooting pain up through my body.

I was looking up at a tall, lanky, punk of a nigger who was unzipping his pants. I use that word carefully. I know its full destructive power. To me, at that moment, Jesse Coulter descended from an African American to a Nigger. But I didn't have time to feel proud of my linguistic decision. I tried to scramble away, but he placed one large size thirteen tennis shoe on my body to hold me still.

"You know my record here at the school?" He asked, smiling and fishing in his open fly. "You know I already fucked six little white sluts pregnant?" I couldn't believe that was trueÃfÂæsurly the school wouldn't hide such a thing just to keep us number one in basketball? Would they? "I gonna show you what they all love. Why they keep coming back for more. Why Mr. Hample and Mr. Louis drool every time I walk past.

He grew frustrated trying to fish his prick out of his baggy pants, so he cursed and ripped open the waist button and let pants and boxer shorts drop to the floor.

I have to say, I have never seen anything like it on man or boy. I've heard that there are photos of such things on the internet, but I don't go to those places. Jesse Coulter stood there with his pants puddle around his feet, and my lying between his spread legs. Over me hung the largest dick I have ever seen in my life. Mine is six inches hard, and I have been told that is average, for a white guy anyway. This dick wasn't even hard and must have hung eight inches. It was as thick as a beer can. And under it hung two low slung balls, each one the size of a hard boiled egg. It was freakish. No woman could ever even take such a prick, I felt certain.

"You gonna like this dick, Mr. Sutton. You gonna learn to love it a whole lot. When I finish with you, you gonna give me an A in English, just because you love this dick so much. You gonna want my dick more than your wife's pussy. You gonna want it like a heroin addict needs a fix. You gonna be nigger dick crazy!"

His talk was crazy! But I was in no position to argue. I had always been completely straight, never ever entertaining gay or bisexual thoughts. I was open minded about gays and believed in gay rights, but I was not gay.

He sat down on my chest, and his fat prick dragged across my shirtfront, leaking something from the puckered foreskin onto me. The shaft of the nigger prick was thick and wrinkled and the foreskin long completely closing over the cockhead. The puckered foreskin flesh at the tip looked like an asshole or something. The he pumped the gigantic hunk of fuckmeat and the foreskin drew back over the huge purple cockhead. It looked the size of a plum with a wide pisshole leaking pre cum. I was in shock.

The nigger cock grew to almost a foot in length. It was the most awesome thing I have ever seen in my life. He started to rub the leaking dickhead all over my face. I tried to turn my head away, but he slapped the fuck out of me, until I lay still and just let him play with my face.

"I gonna mark you, like an animal marks his territory. You never gonna get the smell of my dick off yo face. You gonna smell my cocksnot all the time, even when you fucking that bitch of yo's." He covered my entire face with pre cum! My nose and eyes and lips. I started to gag and he slapped me again. Hard.

"You never show disrespect to a black man's cock. You always welcome it, no matter who the black man is. You got that, Cuntface?" He made a fist and would have punched me right in the face if I hadn't agreed. Then he told me to open my mouth. I knew what was coming and that it would change my life forever. I opened my mouth. He yelled for me to open it wider. I did and he rested his enormous purple dickhead on my lower lip. It dribbled cockslop into my mouth like a leaking faucet. "I gonna fuck yo ass of course, but not till later in the week. You my bitch now, and you keep your asspussy and mouth available for me any time, night or day. But I ain't got time today, cause I gots to go to basketball practice. And I going, ain't I? He lifted his huge dick and started to slap my face with it. Pre- fuck sprayed the area around my face. My lips were sticky with his pre-cum. His dick was like a giant club and it hurt badly when it thunked into my face.

"Yes! Yes!" I cried. "You can go, just leave me alone."

"Leave you alone? No way, girlyboy. You is my ho now. I gots lots of fun stuff planned fo you and me. But fo now, I just gonna blow some nice nigger sperm into your mouth and you gonna swallow like a nice cockhog." I was crying pretty heavily now and trying to tell him I wasn't gay, and please don't do this to me, but it was already too late. He had his dick in my mouth and was fucking my face like it was a young white virgin cunt.$$He humped my face, leaning his body up and over my head, slamming balls deep so his big nuts thumped on me. His legs stretched and I raised one hand to his large muscular tight globular ass. His ass skin was smooth and I felt the deep ass crack. He grunted and pushed more and more dick into my face. Now it was lodged in my throat, stretching and ripping at my throat muscles. I could not breath. I was sure I would die. The cock was down twelve inches into my gullet.

How could any girl take this? I wondered. The pain was horrible, but the humiliation worse. The prick expanded and throbbed and I felt it moving in my neck. I put one hand to my neck and actually felt the big nigger dick from the outside of my neck. His pubic hair was thick and stank of sweat and black boy sexual smell. I was being face fucked by a sixteen year old nigger and couldn't do anything about it. Jesus, what was happening to me and what would become of my life?

Then he came! It seemed like gallons of thick white nigger sperm. It poured down my throat like glue, then he pulled back and it filled my mouth. It felt like wallpaper paste or oatmeal. It backed up into my nasal passages and I started to snort nigger cum.

He laughed and pulled out and shot three more spurts of dicksnot all over my face. Then he milked the dick of the last drops of his cock cream and wiped his dickhead in my hair. He leaned down over me smiling and then spit three huge gobs right into my face.

"We will continue this tomorrow. Don't try to skip school, or tell anyone about us, or you will be very sorry. I got lots of friends who are a whole lot rougher than me."

He stood up and stuffed his black hose back into his pants which he pulled up and buttoned.

"I gotta go to practice now. And I bet I get an A on the quiz tomorrow, huh?"

He put one large foot on my face and pressed down, almost breaking my nose.

"Say hello to yo pretty wife for me. Oh and tomorrow, don't wear any underwear under your pants. It will save time."

And then he was gone.

But my nightmare was just starting...

Re:Nice (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396493)

That wasn't even close to being an actual limerick, and even if it was, it would be the suckiet limerick in the world.

Whatever you do, don't become a poet. That was dreadful. For real.

Downloading isn't wrong...Torrents are. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396393)

The only seed I ever want to hear about again is when I plant my vegetable garden in the spring, good night.

Re:Downloading isn't wrong...Torrents are. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396481)

How about the seed I squirted into your mother's cervix last night? Now go back to suckling Mitch Bainwol's drippling, flaccid penis and leave the rest of us alone, dipshit.

First? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396395)

Did I do it?

Re:First? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396913)

Waaaa, poor little thieving kiddies getting bitchslapped, what a tragedy.

Re:First? (4, Informative)

kdemetter (965669) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396961)

Well , the trojan has been removed , and i'm sure the user uploading has also been identified and banned.

If it changes the hosts file , it's easy to identify, and remove.

We get trojan and virus uploaders all the time, and they are removed at first sight, so this is nothing new, and nothing TPB can't handle.

Holy fuck (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396401)

127.0.0.1 turns out to be *my* private IP address. So everyone with that virus is connecting to my Internet. That would explain why my connection has been so slow lately. I sure hope they find the bastard who did this to me. I'll gladly add my own lawsuit to the pile.

Re:Holy fuck (1)

ushering05401 (1086795) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396477)

Stay right where you are, we are coming for the downloaded bits now, bitch - don't struggle.

Just wait 'til... (5, Funny)

CarpetShark (865376) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396645)

Just wait 'til you get a dumbass letter from the RIAA saying that the IP 127.0.0.1 has been identified as a computer uploading copyrighted material. Then the shit will really hit the fan ;)

Re:Just wait 'til... (4, Funny)

dmsuperman (1033704) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396891)

They would get halfway through the trial before realizing they're sitting on both sides of the court. Incompetent jackasses -_-

Re:Holy fuck (4, Funny)

Chris Daniel (807289) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396649)

Do you, by any chance, live in Tuttle, OK [centos.org] ?

Re:Holy fuck (1)

value_added (719364) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396753)

Do you, by any chance, live in Tuttle, OK?

LOL. Re-reading those transcripts was like hearing a good joke being re-told. The only thing that could have made that situation funnier would have been a city named Buttle.

Another possibility (3, Insightful)

EdIII (1114411) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396403)

This could be the piracy groups themselves throwing this out there to stir up sentiment against the RIAA, MPAA, etc.

Of course that's like adding a few cords of wood to the fires of HELL, but it is a possibility.

P.S - This is not nearly as bad as the Sony Rootkit.

Re:Another possibility (4, Insightful)

Firehed (942385) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396589)

It's a trojan - you have no idea what else it's doing. If all it does is screw with your HOSTS file and play a stupid audio track I agree, but it could be doing all sorts of other unknown fun stuff to your machine with the root access it has.

Re:Another possibility (1)

ILuvRamen (1026668) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396635)

or since you figured that out, maybe they were anticipating it and the RIAA and MPAA are behind it because they want people to think that file sharing sights put it up there to frame them. Anyway, back in reality, I don't think they'd block their own websites from people just to prove a point. As for Madonna, she should have just said "you're an ass" then played a 1000 Hz tone at full blast. That's arguably the loudest sounding tone to humans in general and also quite annoying. Btw they didn't mention if the voice was a real person or a synthesized one. If it was real, you just listen for them to stop in the middle of the statement and take a bite of a hot pocket and you know it was the file sharers all along! If you hear a faint "okay, cut" then it was the RIAA in a recording studio :P

Running as admin is fun (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396407)

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1061 2007-04-05 12:18 /etc/hosts

Ahhh, windows, gotta love it.

Re:Running as admin is fun (3, Informative)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396445)

C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc>cacls hosts
C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(ID)F
                                                                            BUILTIN\Administrators:(ID)F
                                                                            BUILTIN\Users:(ID)R

So only SYSTEM and Admin can write. On Vista with UAC enabled I can't write to it, even though I'm an Admin.

Re:Running as admin is fun (5, Insightful)

BrokenHalo (565198) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396591)

C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc>cacls hosts
C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:(ID)F
BUILTIN\Administrators:(ID)F
BUILTIN\Users:(ID)R

Far out. I'll slap the next person who tells me Unix is hard to use, if that's Microsoft's idea of user-friendliness.

Re:Running as admin is fun (3, Interesting)

dov_0 (1438253) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396643)

Far out. I'll slap the next person who tells me Unix is hard to use, if that's Microsoft's idea of user-friendliness.

From someone who runs a PC repair business, XP makes Unix look like childs play... Man it even makes doing a Gentoo install look easy.

Give me a nice clean bash terminal any day.

Re:Running as admin is fun (1)

Bacon Bits (926911) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396823)

Of course it looks complicated.

a) You're not supposed to manage file permissions from the command line.
b) NTFS permissions are far more customizable and have far more features than POSIX style. It's the same reason PostgreSQL is more complex than a flat text file.

Re:Running as admin is fun (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396905)

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1061 2007-04-05 12:18 /etc/hosts

Ahhh, windows, gotta love it.

Well, albeit possibly funny, your posting unfortunately doesn't point out any weakness of Windows. If you're required to install some software as admin (that is root for us), then you're screwed if said software is malware. No matter which OS, PEBKAC.

As others already said, what do we have virtual machines for?

FiRsT PosT!!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396417)

Stud dogs go about the whole sex thing rather differently than primates (or equines). Unlike us, male canines don't have an orgasm that involves a short, intense ejaculation. Instead, once they have become fully erect, they will have a continuous orgasm for from 10 to 45 minutes or longer. The "standard" procedure for dogs, when they are mating, is that the male "ties" with the bitch - which means that, after he has penetrated fully, his penis will develop a knot at its base that is several times wider than the rest of his shaft.

For reference, a 80 pound Golden stud dog might have, let's say, a cock that is 7 or 8 inches long when erect - but his knot will be at least as big around as a tennis ball. This knot swells inside the bitch, and so long as he remains erect the dogs are "tied." No, this isn't painful for her - canine females long ago developed an entire set of muscular supports for this process. Generally, once they are tied, most stud dogs prefer to step off and over, so he and the bitch are tail-to-tail. Theories abound on why this evolved - I have yet to see one that was truly convincing. Anyway, they'll stand like this, with the male having a continuous orgasm during the whole tie - until he starts to shrink and they pop apart. Bitches also have orgasms, and she'll likely have quite a few during the tie, as well - research has shown that her orgasms are essential to increasing the chances of pregnancy, due to muscular contractions.

Anyway. if a guy like me has a stud dog partner, one form of intimacy is for him to tie with us, anally. As young teenagers, many of us learned the hard way about the knot, and the tie - particularly back in pre-interweb days. So we'd suddenly find ourselves locked together, with this tennis-ball width cock inside us. Nowadays, I suspect most young zoos know all about this. However, some folks still have eyes bigger than their stomach, err their you-know-what.

It would not be accurate to say that I have a stream of visitors who show up at my house just for sex with my canine partners. However, it is true that I do not exercise any sort of unilateral control/ownership over the relationships my canine boys might develop with other people - they are adults, and if they desire to get frisky with another two-legger and I judge that the person is respectful and unlikely to do anything mean or stupid, I have no moral ground on which to say "oh, no, you aren't allowed - he can only have sex with me." That just makes no sense, so if there's a time when a friend is visiting and there's a spark between them and one of my partners, I'm ok with that. In truth, I think it's great to have the boys' enjoy other positive relationships and I love to see them happy, whatever the circumstances.

Many years ago, my friend Commander Taco was visiting - a zoo who had been active with his own stud dog for quite a few years. His boy was a breed that is not small, but is also somewhat known by old-school zoos as being, well, on average not so well-endowed relative to their body size. This friend had tied with his partner on a number of occasions - and he often talked about how intense and rewarding the experience was, for both of them. That's great, I said - while thinking that he'd probably not fare so well with a larger breed.

As it turns out, Taco and one of my canine friends hit it off quite clearly right from the get-go - the chemistry was there and the two of them seemed like they'd known each other for ages. After several visits, I could see that they were sort of getting closer and closer - my friend Taco was worried that I'd feel he was somehow intruding into my relationship with this handsome stud dog - who had been in my own family for close to a decade. Of course not, I told him - if you guys hit it off and things get steamy, I'd hardly throw cold water on it just so I can be all possessive and insecure. HOWEVER, I warned him, that handsome boy with whom you're making goo-goo eyes is much bigger than your own long-time partner.

I tried to be nice about this, but some zoos get their nose out of joint if you suggest their beloved might not be the most-endowed canine (or equine, or whatever) around. Taco was a bit like that - and right off the bat tried to convince me his boy was "really quite large for his body size," and who was I to argue? I did warn him that the stud dog he was considering, in my family, was somewhat over-endowed for his body size - and he was in the range of 120 pounds of low-bodyfat muscle. Beh, my friend said, no problem - I know what I'm doing. . .

Later that evening, after I'd gone to bed, I woke to the sound of toenails on the hardwood floor. There was also a bit of panting, a giggle here and there - not hard to figure out what was going on. Feeling a sense of impending doom, I made my presence known and sort of lurked in the background, sitting on the sofa and enjoying the huge, nearly-full moon casting shadows on the farm. The two boys were doing some sort of foreplay - it seemed cute to me, but I did (once again) warn Taco that this particular stud dog was also rather aggressive in his breeding - he'd sired many litters of wonderful pups, in his own career, and knew quite well how to get a proper tie with even inexperienced or skittish bitches. Yeah, yeah - my Taco was clearly not thinking with the had between his shoulders, but the one between his legs.

In a flash, the big stud dog was mounted on Taco - and this time he wasn't just going through the motions, or playing. In just a few thrusts, he was inside - and with all that muscle, he held himself tight as he began to swell. It doesn't take long - maybe 20 seconds. I'm still watching, from the sofa, somewhere between shocked and bemused. For the first ten seconds or so, Taco is quiet and still as a winter night - not a sound save the deep grunting from my stud dog as he was swelling with each heartbeat.

Then, reality started to intrude (pun intended). Commander Taco started to make this sort of whimpering sound - no words, just a low moan. Too late to turn back, I knew, so I held my tongue. Then, as my stud dog really began to take on his full size (which I knew from years of firsthand enjoyment was just under 10 inches in length with a knot just shy of softball size), my two-legged friend began to realize the error of his ways. This stud dog was, quite likely, at least double the width of his normal canine partner - and 3 or 4 inches longer. And, as reality is dawning on him, each heartbeat is causing the cock inside him to get bigger. . . and bigger. . . and bigger.

By now, Taco's positively crying - literally crying like a baby. No words, just sort of a quiet blubbering. He's smart enough to know there's no backing out now - and he didn't try anything stupid like pulling loose (which can, indeed, cause massive rectal tearing if done in haste - trust me, not fun). At this point my canine friend casually steps off from the usual "doggie style" position and, with years of practice, adjusts himself into the butt-to-butt position. And to add insult to (literal) injury, my canine friend has now plastered an absolutely massive grin on his face - when we say "shit-eating grin," this is it He's having the time of his life, tied with a new friend he's met, just starting into an orgasm that will go on for nearly 20 minutes. Not only does he not really know that his **** buddy is feeling like someone's put the better part of a baseball bat up his ass. . . I'm quite sure he doesn't care.

Just for good measure, I took a photo of the gigantic smile on the stud dog's face - nothing more than that, just his face and the grin to end all grins. Click.

My two-legged friend Taco is now officially gibbering - it's really a verb, I didn't know that before just then. He's somehow begging for it to "stop, oh please stop" - but every now and then there's an "oh god oh GOD he's amazing" thrown in, before he's back to "oh PLEASE make it stop OOOH stop stop stop." This goes on, as is par for the course, for just shy of 20 minutes, at which point my stud dog friend begins to subside, pops free (with a characteristically loud and gushing dis-connection), and lies down to clean himself up and help his cock back into its sheath.

In contrast, my two-legged friend has simply fallen over, and curled up into a fetal ball. Well, I think to myself, I don't see any blood. . . oh, wait, I do see blood, but not really that much so it's probably ok. I get him a blanket and try to offer kindness without intruding on his pain, and to be honest without s******ing. The words "I told you so" are hovering out there, but need not be spoken at that somewhat awkward time. I do ask: "are you going to be ok, or should we head to hospital?" In between ragged breaths, he responds "no hospital, not going to die" - and indeed my own judgment is that he's far from dying, though he may feel like that would be preferable to the pain he's in.

I get him a blanket, and a pillow and get him comfortable right there on the hardwood floor of the kitchen. And our canine Casanova? Well he's cleaned up, wandered over to give a big, wet, shameless kiss to his worse-for-the-wear sexual partner and he's already asleep on the sofa, snoring - with grin still present on his face. Remorse? Regret? Not a chance!

The next day, I was impressed to see that my guest was up and at the kitchen table, with his well-endowed playmate from the previous night sharing a dish of eggs and toast, when I came downstairs with the rest of the canine crew. Impressed, that is, until I noticed he wasn't in any rush to get up from the table - ever. Turns out, Taco had indeed suffered some serious internal bruising - in a few days, the discoloration has spread from his lower back (which still makes me laugh, sorry, because I can visualize exactly how far in that cock had gone and, sure enough, that's where the bruise mellows out - a good bit of the way up his back and towards his ribs) down his legs, and clear to his ankles. Both legs. It's spectacular. He's walking like a rehabbed accident victim for several days, and for weeks afterwards he looks as if he'd ridden a horse for too long (again, laughing as I type). It was more than a month before he'd healed up more or less ok, and even then I'd see him wince if he bent down too quickly.

Is it wrong for me to think this is funny? If it is, so be it - it's ****ing funny. The transformation from swaggering "oh I can take that big boy, I know what I'm doing" to hunched-over victim of a mind-expanding lesson in what "big" means when applied to stud dogs - all in the blink of an eye. Yes, it's definitely funny.

Of course, in those early weeks, he promised me he would NEVER do something like that again - NEVER tie with a dog bigger than his own long-term partner. And, he asked me with genuine indignation, how could I keep tying with that dog who had torn him up so badly? Didn't I know the danger I was in? I responded, casually, that I appreciated his concerns but, to put perspective on things he should remember that his dog compared to that stud dog who tore him up so badly, in terms of relative size, the same way that the tearer-upper compared to my Dane partner at the time. His eyes grew wide - comprehension dawned. . . "you don't tie with that monster, do you?" I glanced over at my beloved Dane who, looking up at me, thumped his tail a few times in flagrant collusion with my own thoughts. "Who, me? Tie with that massive dog? Now what kind of crazy fool would do such a thing?"

Re:FiRsT PosT!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396615)

...hot :3

Re:FiRsT PosT!!!! (1)

MrNaz (730548) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396683)

Pics or it never happened!

Expect the reverse (5, Insightful)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396421)

A virus that instead plays "Downloading is right" and redirects the homepages of big software, music and movie companies to piratebay, mininova, etc...

Keygens (5, Insightful)

Metapsyborg (754855) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396425)

It's pretty crazy to be running keygens on your system. Every time I do it, I think to myself "what are these guys getting for all their hard work?" The same thing with cracked software - you run an installer yourself how could the cracker pass up that type opportunity? I just assume most of them infect your computer with some spyware and trojans.

Re:Keygens (4, Informative)

Anpheus (908711) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396449)

Virtual machines baby, boot it up, run the keylogger, run the install up to the point where it gives you whatever you need to install, and then reset the hard drive state.

Re:Keygens (2, Insightful)

GFree678 (1363845) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396555)

Virtual machines baby, boot it up, run the keylogger, run the install up to the point where it gives you whatever you need to install, and then reset the hard drive state.

That works. My tactic is also to write the serial that is produced by a keygen into a text file so that in a future install I don't have to re-run the keygen, I just copy/paste the data safely from the file. Doesn't work for the more advanced keys which are based off a unique hash of the system's architecture, but for every else the text file is perfect. Heck, sometimes a key or keys are listed by someone in the comments of the torrent so that you don't HAVE to use a keygen, which is nice.

Re:Keygens (1, Interesting)

Vadim Makarov (529622) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396465)

It's pretty crazy to be running keygens on your system. Every time I do it, I think to myself "what are these guys getting for all their hard work?" The same thing with cracked software - you run an installer yourself how could the cracker pass up that type opportunity? I just assume most of them infect your computer with some spyware and trojans.

I rely on feedback from other downloaders on TPB. If the installer or keygen do bad things, many people will scream in comments. For popular torrents that are more than a month old, that catches malware pretty well. So far, I've no visible problem on my machine with this approach.

Re:Keygens (5, Funny)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396495)

I rely on feedback from other downloaders on TPB. If the installer or keygen do bad things, many people will scream in comments. For popular torrents that are more than a month old, that catches malware pretty well. So far, I've no visible problem on my machine with this approach.

I checked out your machine from here and it seems ok. A bit slow though, makes me wonder what everyone else is running on there.

Re:Keygens (1)

Vadim Makarov (529622) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396973)

Seriously, I don't think there is any. If there were, I'd have my CC and passwords stolen long ago, would see extra traffic on the net connection, processes running, registry keys added, etc. There is none.

Re:Keygens (1)

timmarhy (659436) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396469)

it's a called a virus scanner.

Re:Keygens (2, Insightful)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396865)

Good one, sir!

Re:Keygens (1)

synthesizerpatel (1210598) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396489)

While we haven't seen it yet, I think it'd be a twist worthy of a Gibson novel to have an author of a useful program intentionally infect computers, granted, it'd destroy their reputation but nobody would see it coming.

Imagine if Putty were backdoored on purpose?

Re:Keygens (3, Funny)

AngryBacon (1094489) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396611)

The authors of Norton Anti-Virus did this already, but most people don't really notice.

Re:Keygens (1)

Belial6 (794905) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396639)

I don't know where you've been, but that is just plain common. From the sony root kit to the toolbar that Java keeps wanting to install.

Re:Keygens (1)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396833)

This is already in most closed source/downloadable programs. Good luck in not gaining an extra toolbar and having your homepage hijacked.

So who was it? (1)

Rs_Conqueror (838344) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396429)

Does anyone know what it was claiming to be a keygen for? That would be a likely lead as to who is responsible for the virus, assuming it was the software industry who released this.

But....baby.... (1)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396455)

<barrywhite>
But baby....how can it be wrong...when it feels so right....
</barrywhite>

Summary makes it sounds like a virus but it's not. (4, Insightful)

HumanEmulator (1062440) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396457)

From everything I've read (the slashdot summary excluded) this isn't really a virus -- it's a straight trojan. That means you would have to be trying to download a serial key generator in order to get it on your system. (ie. It doesn't spread to you from other people's machines.)

I'm all against nefarious software creeping onto my system, but this is like complaining that the guy you tried to buy drugs from turned out to be a cop.

Re:Summary makes it sounds like a virus but it's n (4, Insightful)

Warhawke (1312723) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396539)

You're assuming that the keygen downloader does not have the authority (i.e. ownership) of the program in question. Apparently you've never accidentally tossed or misplaced a CD-key.

So really it's more like the guy you were trying to buy medical marijuana from turned out to be the naggy guy behind the Above the Influence campaign.

Yah, clue-passive, non-malicious Trojan... (1)

Klootzak (824076) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396583)

I'd like to give the Author of the Trojan a +5 "Magnificent Bastard" Moderation

Clue-Passive [bofhcam.org] , because those with clue will remove it in 2 seconds...

"L33t Script-Kiddie" hax0rs will say: "The site was removed, argh I'm being tracked!!!" (and hopefully either stop, so SysAdmins don't have to de-virus their machines constantly, or learn enough so they understand a little bit more about what they're doing).


All in all, a clever combination of Technology and good understanding of Human-Computer Interaction.

Disclaimer: No, I didn't write it.

Re:Summary makes it sounds like a virus but it's n (4, Funny)

mqduck (232646) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396657)

I'm all against nefarious software creeping onto my system, but this is like complaining that the guy you tried to buy drugs from turned out to be a cop.

What, you don't get pissed when that happens to you?

Re:Summary makes it sounds like a virus but it's n (1)

Xistenz99 (1395377) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396825)

I agree in the past I have gotten trojans from doing this, but I could only blame myself because I wasn't cautious enough. Now were is that link at, so I can download it......

oops, downloaded this web page (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396463)

..which of course according to the recording is wrong. Oh, I'm in the middle of downloading packets of data for TV since I'm using satellite TV, which is also wrong I guess. Where did I go so wrong in life.

Let's not forget: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396471)

...for Windows.

But no...no reason to consider alternatives.

Please explain to me (2, Interesting)

mumblestheclown (569987) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396479)

I'd like somebody to please explain to me why my company should not compile versions of our software for torrent that do horrible and terrible things to the downloaders' PCs after say, the third run. We have no duty of care nor contract with such downloaders and due to the nature of our software, it is 100% certain that those who download pirated versions will never become legitimate customers. Furthermore, because of the way our software is licensed and its data is accessed, we can be 100% sure that none of our legitimate users are using pirated versions. No really. I'd like you guys to tell me why not. it's something I've fantasized about. We'd even put noticed at the beginning of the software telling the user quite explicitly about the horrible things that the software would do, and we would not hold the users "hostage" to purchasing our software in any way. Of course, we could open ourselves up to retribution attacks, but, imagining for a moment if that was not an issue, i'd like to hear some opinions. As you can see by the responses here to this article, many slashdotters have abandoned even the pretense of soome pseudophilosophical justification for their piracy and are just concentrating on the technical tricks involved in being better pirates ("virtual machines, baby", etc.)

Re:Please explain to me (5, Insightful)

MrMista_B (891430) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396505)

Well, for one thing, it's illegal, immoral, and unethical. Fighting crime by being a criminal... well, you see where I'm going with that.

Furthermore, do you want your company to get the reputation of a malware maker and distributor? That's not likely to increase your sales.

Beyond even that, say, for example, someone repackages the malware you release as a 'linux-iso' or somesuch. Then you would be to blame for destroying the computers of innocent people.

Y'know, based on this, if I were your boss, I'd fire you, because you're clearly lacking in ethical stability, and making threats such as you have marks you as a company liability. Hmm.

Re:Please explain to me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396585)

"Fighting crime by being a criminal"

So your stance is downloading is a crime? Kind of takes the sting out of the righteous indignation.

Re:Please explain to me (1)

im_thatoneguy (819432) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396659)

"
3 pages of legal crap... blah blah blah blah.....

Warning this product is designed to delete all of the data on your hard drive and corrupt your MBR. This product should only be run in the event that you desire your data all deleted since that is its intent. Thank you for using our product and we hope it meets your file deletion expectations!"

I don't see how that's illegal or unethical. You release a product onto a site with the same name as your product. Which performs a different service. OBVIOUSLY the pirate was looking for the version of your product which deleted all his data since the one sold in stores doesn't offer the same feature set.

Re:Please explain to me (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396693)

I don't see how that's illegal

Fair enough.

or unethical.

Ah- he's retarded. Nevermind.

Re:Please explain to me (2, Insightful)

rastilin (752802) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396749)

Unless your product is worth $10,000+ then you stand a solid chance of doing far more damage than you could possibly claim your product was worth. Not to mention people will rename and pass along your software to bystanders. Mind you I don't have any complaint as such, if they make the choice to avoid the law, then stepping into a claymore placed to catch thieves is part of the risk.

I'm only saying that I doubt these people have thought through all the possible consequences of their actions. The reason the big software companies don't do this is that they have more to lose than they stand to gain.

Re:Please explain to me (1)

rxan (1424721) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396711)

Well, for one thing, it's illegal, immoral, and unethical. Fighting crime by being a criminal... well, you see where I'm going with that.

I'm pretty sure that in the USA if someone is robbing your store, it's OK to pull a gun on them. Why should the internet not have an equivalent?

Re:Please explain to me (3, Interesting)

Tom9729 (1134127) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396759)

Because boobytrapping your software would be the equivalent of having a robot shoot the person on the other side of the register when the silent alarm was triggered.

Works great, but once it's triggered it doesn't differentiate between customers and criminals.

Say there's a bug in your software that causes it to format the customer's computer because it mistakenly thought they were a criminal. That's a big "oops".

Re:Please explain to me (3, Informative)

spathi-wa (575009) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396783)

It's OK to pull a gun on someone who is robbing your store only if local and state laws specifically say so.

Downloading and using software without a valid license is not covered by laws that allow the licensed distributor to do anything to other people's data.

Being other people's data, which the distributor or developer do not and cannot have any rights over, it is unlikely that any such law will be passed.

Re:Please explain to me (1)

gzipped_tar (1151931) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396817)

> if I were your boss, I'd fire you, because you're clearly lacking in ethical stability, and making threats such as you have marks you as a company liability.

I think that's why you'll never become a boss, because it appears that your moral compass is not damaged [1].

[1] http://dilbert.com/fast/2008-07-21/ [dilbert.com]

Re:Please explain to me (2, Funny)

GFree678 (1363845) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396987)

if I were your boss, I'd fire you, because you're clearly lacking in ethical stability

Lacking in ethical stability?

At my place of work this would be cause for a promotion!

Re:Please explain to me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396513)

Um, dude, that's like, illegal.

Re:Please explain to me (1)

Craevenwulfe (611318) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396517)

if you can guarantee that zero legit customers would be affected then rock on.

Re:Please explain to me (1)

timothyf (615594) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396549)

Bad PR, mostly--see the Sony Rootkit. Even if you're right, it's hard to sway the court of public opinion. And honestly, it could even be illegal to retaliate against pirates in such a fashion, though IANAL so I couldn't say for sure.

Also, you say you're 100% sure--but what if the malware code got activated by accident somehow and damaged a customer computer? Are you willing to take that sort of risk? Besides, do you really want to stoop to the level of a malware author? Really?

I don't think pirating is right, but technical solutions to the problem just don't seem to work, or harm legitimate customers more than the pirates, and I'd say that it's not worth the effort to try to fight this social problem with technical solutions that don't work or actively harm the wrong people.

Ultimately though, if you want to do it, go ahead. I'm almost curious to see what'd happen myself.

Re:Please explain to me (5, Insightful)

Craevenwulfe (611318) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396755)

The Sony Rootkit affected people who bought shit legally. Where's the fucking relevance?

Re:Please explain to me (1)

Buttink (1449239) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396559)

IF WE COULD CLONE STUFF.... That would be like making a hamburger with razors just so that when they pirate it they die. Granted some people might deserve a punch to the face, but still that might be a bit extreme. There is software that will die after a few minutes of use if its pirated. I believe C&C games used to do this. At the same time, I get what you are saying. However, at the same time if you made your software unpirateable something would just take its place. Take Photoshop for instance, if you couldn't pirate Photoshop, you would simply download gimp. I think people blame pirating for there problems rather then look at why. Photoshop .... to expensive for the average user. Multiple copies of software to run on diffrent devices(Left 4 Dead XBOX and PC). At the end of the day, yes stealing the software is wrong. However, that doesn't mean he would have bought it anyway.

Re:Please explain to me (1)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396567)

I'd do it in a heartbeat. Hell I'd put something in the EULA saying that the company is not liable for data loss due to running cracked versions of the program, or copies downloaded illegally. I read some Atari games would detect they were cracked but play right up to the end. At the last minute final boss would, instead of fighting, give you a lecture about how piracy was killing the industry and then the game would exit.

The best possibility would to release false crack, i.e ones that let the program start but then fail in an irritating after it has been played for a long time, like hanging and corrupting saved games. Hell you could put some hard to find bugs back into the cracked version and rely on the fact that the cracking scene doesn't QA effectively.

Re:Please explain to me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396623)

Hell you could put some hard to find bugs back into the cracked version and rely on the fact that the cracking scene doesn't QA effectively.

Except they will recrack it and release one that works better. It takes much less code to work around some security measure than it takes to make the measure in the first place.

Re:Please explain to me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396571)

Your right to protect your software does not give you rights over other people's data.

If you really nuked someone's computer with one of these 'fake' versions, you will eventually be sued, and may even face criminal charges for tampering with a computer system. You will lose these cases, and then you will be out of business and probably in jail - regardless of whether or not you have a copyright claim against someone.

Now it's probable that most people who acquired it illegally will realise they're in a sticky situation and may not do anything.

But I can easily see cases where this won't hold. An employer of a company may have downloaded your app and be trying it when his boss or a senior higher-up notices it, and the employer gives him a copy of it. The higher-up may not know it's an illegal copy or even know what differentiates a "demo" from an illegal copy. Not everybody understands these issues.

Suddenly the senior guy loses all his data. He had no idea about what was going on but you've potentially just ruined his business or his career... yeah, not everybody understands that mission-critical data belongs on a network share.

There is no way you would win this case, and nor should you. You deserve to lose everything if you think even for a second that you have rights over everybody elses data. Why don't you tell us what your company's name is so we can all avoid any software that is even remotely associated with you?

Re:Please explain to me (2, Insightful)

rxan (1424721) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396761)

There is no way you would win this case, and nor should you. You deserve to lose everything if you think even for a second that you have rights over everybody elses data.

I could say the exact same thing about software pirating.

Re:Please explain to me (4, Insightful)

asifyoucare (302582) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396597)

Wrong - you do have a duty of care. By releasing software on a torrent you have a duty of care (admittedly with a low bar) to those who might download it. Deliberate damage comfortably clears that low bar.

Perhaps I don't understand your legal theory correctly. Could you be more explicit re the circumstances in which you believe you're entitled to damage the property of strangers?

Re:Please explain to me (2, Interesting)

Firehed (942385) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396631)

Some Mac software developer claimed to do this a while ago on his small commercial product (a completely harmless dialog box saying something to the effect of "pirated key detected, erasing your hard drive"). He had to open-source the product - thereby completely killing its revenue stream - just to save face, and suffice to say a lot of people that remember the incident better than I avoid any software from this developer.

I assure you, NOT all publicity is good publicity, despite sayings to the contrary.

So go for it, but don't be surprised if it ends up completely killing the product. It sounds like you've got some sort of enterprisey product, and I guarantee that no sane company would even risk continuing to use your product (never mind getting any future business) if there was even the slightest risk of that happening.

Re:Please explain to me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396675)

it's something I've fantasized about.

Sounds like it. You should probably talk to somebody about that, dude. I don't think it's healthy.

Re:Please explain to me (1)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396731)

Possibly for the same reason that you can't shoot random people in the head, even if you don't have a signed contract with them and they will never be your customer.

If you don't understand that two wrongs don't make a right, then perhaps there was a lack of effective parenting in your childhood.

Re:Please explain to me (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396787)

I'd like somebody to please explain why i cant just do what i want for any reason i want.

You piss me off in traffic? i follow you home and shoot you. hows that. maybe you just looked at me funny. you did something i didnt like and might be aginst the law. so i can use any means to stop you. even criminal means.

you might be evil. how do i know. i feel i can impose my moral and legal will upon you for whatever reasons i can think up.

fuck you man. i'm gonna hold your wife and kids hostage until you give me what i want.

What? all that is wrong? oh.

I'll tell you why (1)

CHRONOSS2008 (1226498) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396931)

because ill start making virii that specifically targets your end userbase with messages like
YOUR SOFTWARE MAKER IS A RETARD

Just to spite them (1)

s-whs (959229) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396509)

Just to spite those who uploaded that trojan, I will start downloading FreeBSD 7.1 later today.
Here it is:

http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=freebsd

Ha!

It's not just big companies that don't like piracy (2, Insightful)

synthesizerpatel (1210598) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396519)

Synthmaker, a music DSP authoring utility which allows 'full version' owners to export VSTs (virtual instruments) which they can then redistribute / sell had an interesting post a couple months ago from one of the users talking about how a VST they had offered for something like $10 ended up being posted with a crack on usenet.

Stuff like that happens all the time and directly affects the little guy even more than it does the big faceless corporations.

So it's tough for me to think that any company would take the immense risk of doing something as stupid as distributing a virus, whereas a disgruntled independent developer with spare time and a personal axe to grind against piracy might not care as long as some homebrew justice gets metered out.

Re:It's not just big companies that don't like pir (0)

Doctor_Jest (688315) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396607)

The tragic thing is, it's not doing anything but annoying those who weren't going to buy their product anyway (provided it's indeed a disgruntled developer). So in effect, unlike an after-school special where everyone learns something and grows as human beings, this just annoys some dude who was stupid enough not to use a VM to run suspect programs. :) It's all a monumental stack of steaming shit because we've allowed ourselves to be tricked into believing the Founding Fathers intended for Disney to rape the Public Domain and charge us perpetually for things they didn't even have to pay for. It's a bloody tragic b-movie where we all get caught with our pants down. And yet, nothing changes.

Both sides of this argument have emotional ties to the subject, and their imagery always degenerates into the "starving artist/artisan" and the "freedom loving anarchist". :) While it's silly that something that sells for $10 is posted on usenet, the inevitability of such an action should be no surprise to even the RIAA.

We simply need to get away from the "copyright guarantees revenue" that the big faceless corporations are trying to turn into a cultural meme through misinformation and buying legislation. Once we get those assholes out of the argument, we might actually find a productive middle ground where freedom prevails for all involved. Putting a simple trojan up on a torrent site, or like Madonna's stupid limewire trick, do nothing but make for an interesting read and continue to give the faceless entities fodder to use in their spread of propaganda and misinformation to the great unwashed.

*Sigh.* I wish there was a better solution, but as long as there have been things that have a perceived value, there have always been those who simply want to take from others. It's ingrained into the deepest instincts, and I don't know how to make anyone act civil. The **AA's think you can scare and sue people into civility... Now I'm depressed. :-/

Re:It's not just big companies that don't like pir (1)

im_thatoneguy (819432) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396677)

Yep disney is relevant to this discussion because I'm SURE that these applications being cracked are at LEAST 16 years old.

Re:It's not just big companies that don't like pir (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396907)

I wonder if anybody else gets the reference in your sig :-)

Beware the BM trojan (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396529)

It replaces all your audio files with Barry Manilow songs. The initials refer to the users reaction when they realize they now have 30,000 copies of "Mandy" choking their hard drive.

Ha ha! (1)

LoudMusic (199347) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396543)

Aside from a ridiculous audio message I think it's pretty funny. If you're downloading software from an unsecured and anonymous source and executing it on your computer what do you expect to happen? At least they didn't go hog wild and destroy the OS.

Ha. I like it (: But it needs a better recording.

Re:Ha ha! (1)

value_added (719364) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396785)

If you're downloading software from an unsecured and anonymous source and executing it on your computer what do you expect to happen?

Have the MD5 checksums match?

Oh, wait ...

It literally kills its own spreading method (1)

postmortem (906676) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396563)

As soon as happy user loads the trojan, he/she won't use torrent anymore (or at least he gets rid of it), thus how can this thing spread?

Re:It literally kills its own spreading method (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396723)

Mod parent up. If you can't get to thepiratebay.org anymore, you're gonna reinstall your OS.

Re:It literally kills its own spreading method (4, Funny)

scream at the sky (989144) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396821)

Mod parent up. If you can't get to thepiratebay.org anymore, you're gonna reinstall your OS.

<cynic>
if you can't get to thepiratebay.org, where are you gonna get your OS from?
</cynic>

Taking this down from the bay is WRONG! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396601)

What I want to know is WHY did the piratebay take it down? I tought that they belived in freedom of information and have claimed time end time again that they can not take down a torrent just cause someone os offended or hurt by it (or that its illegal). Why are they changing there minds now? maybe they are in this for the money and not for the "freedom" as they claim?

Re:Taking this down from the bay is WRONG! (1)

sraviik (1375785) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396967)

they care not about legality but about the users OS meaning reported Trojans that block access to ThePirateBay get deleted. also i would assume their definition of hurt is selective. takedowns will occur for torrents that damage users files. however torrents that damage revenue of greedy companies will remain.

Why did the piratebay take it down? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396669)

What I want to know is WHY did the piratebay take it down? I tought that they belived in freedom of information and have claimed time end time again that they can not take down a torrent just cause some one os offended or hurt by it (or that its illegal). Why are they changing there minds now? maybe they are in this for the money and not for the "freedom" as they claim?

Re:Why did the piratebay take it down? (1)

Spliffster (755587) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396779)

What I want to know is WHY did the piratebay take it down?

Maybe because it was editing the hosts file and therefore blocking thepiratebay.com? Where is your freedom of information if you can't access the infromation?

What happened to Slashdot? (0, Offtopic)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396689)

This used to be a great place to read about tech and have interesting tech discussions. Key words: used to. But in the last 6 months or so it has frankly turned into shit. Any discussion is more than 80% anon cowards, and most of those are variations on "nigger nigger nigger" "(fill in the blank) are faggots" etc. Honestly it is getting to the point that I read a post, go down and see the discussions are nothing but trolls, and then go to somewhere else. What the hell happened?

If this doesn't change I can see Slashdot just dying out, because who wants to bother when there are only a handful of posts and the rest are all troll crap. So what happened to Slashdot? Is this a temporary thing, or has all the good posters simply moved on and been replaced with trolls? Does the IP logs show it is only a few trolls posting like mad, or is this a chanology style mass trolling? Seriously Slashdot editors, what is going on?

Re:What happened to Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396741)

Ok, so I post anon, im to lazy to register, but I think I have the ansver. I posted the following to this thread and it was deleted:
"What I want to know is WHY did the piratebay take it down? I thought that they belived in freedom of information and have claimed time end time again that they can not take down a torrent just cause someone os offended or hurt by it (or that its illegal). Why are they changing there minds now? maybe they are in this for the money and not for the "freedom" as they claim?"
I think it is a valid question: "Why are the only interested in freedom when they stand to gain from it?" but it was deleted while posts about having sex with peoples mothers are still in there.

Maybe its the moderators have been replaced by trolls, not the posters?

Re:What happened to Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396767)

Re:What happened to Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396815)

OH, Sorry.

I ment was moderated down, which is about the same as deleted.

BTW. your nice reply reflects everything that is now wrong with /. a huge gang of obcene ppl with nothing to do but being rude on the internet has taken over!

Re:What happened to Slashdot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396757)

Seriously Slashdot editors, what is going on?

You browsing at -1, that's what's going on. Maybe you should just go back to /g/, dickhead.

Surprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396699)

It's surprising that this kind of thing doesn't happen more often.

Use *Mule (0, Redundant)

gluliverk (1398195) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396771)

I allways use *Mule programs like : eMule, aMule and JMule and have no problem with trojans and viruses.

totally counterproductive (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396859)

you win more arguments with persuasion than with obnoxiousness.

listen up retards (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26396911)

edit hosts file and make a back up
hten before you go there and after replace it with back up
this1 minute job thus negates a complete waste a time and all it technically need to be is a windows batch file that move a copy of a hosts file over yours or appends , JESUS thats retarded to do.

this just makes me want to download more and more.
What pirate bay needs is to setup a system where ANY upload before it goes public is 100% checked as in downloaded and verified to not be retarded.
YA ok you aint gonna get it 1 hr as fast for most movies or tv but this would guarantee YOU aint getting shit on by the stupist human virii creator of all time.

P.S. that virus was also circulated from torrent damage a while back and i got hit wiht it and OH it took what 2 seconds to fix and i dropped there site like a hot potato , oddly also things i upped there myself had been ALTERED and that made me wonder what the hell that private site was up too.

Interesting artistic action (5, Insightful)

drx (123393) | more than 5 years ago | (#26396971)

Actually i think this is an interesting action. As a communicative act, this trojan shows several things, e.g. that the internet stays an unstable place where everything is mostly determined by convention -- even with pirates -- AND that TPB is taking down torrents they don't like, despite being a stronghold of free speech. Of course "malicious software" is the argument here for removal of the torrent, but who defines what is malicious? In the end TPB caters to the needs of its community, by filtering "content" this community doesn't approve of.

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