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New Final Fantasy XIII Details, Website Launched

Soulskill posted more than 5 years ago | from the pretty-pictures dept.

Role Playing (Games) 78

Square Enix has launched an official website for Final Fantasy XIII. At the moment, it contains screenshots, game music, and brief character bios written in Japanese. Square also launched a site for Final Fantasy Versus XIII, though it doesn't have any content on it yet. A fan site has translated new details about the game from Weekly Famitsu, including information on the battle system. "Players select the 'Action' (the five buttons near the bottom left of the screen) they would like to use, which is then moved to the Command Stock slots (three slots above the Action buttons) to be executed in turn. Some 'Action' buttons seem to have several layers behind them, which means you'll have more than five actions to choose from. Each of the 'Actions' has a number attached to them; this is the 'Cost' or the number of slots that particular 'Action' will take in the Command Stock. For example, you can have three Fire commands in the list since its 'Cost' is only 1, but you can only use Firaga, which costs 3, if you have three empty slots in the Command Stock."

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Nice design (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26406355)

Wow, those main characters in Final Fantasy just keep getting more and more effeminate. =P

Re:Nice design (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26406397)

That's because they're trying harder and harder to appeal to the typical Final Fantasy fan

Re:Nice design (4, Funny)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 5 years ago | (#26406441)

Other games ask you if you want to play a male or female character, Final Fantasy just makes them unisex.

Re:Nice design (1)

Shin-LaC (1333529) | more than 5 years ago | (#26406507)

Actually, this time I see two feminine women (Lightning and Vanille) and one manly man (Snow). Ok, he's still blond, but at least this time he has a beard! Beards are manly. He's muscle-bound, too.

Re:Nice design (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26406643)

Wow, those main characters in Final Fantasy just keep getting more and more effeminate. =P

Yeah, that guy's even got some breasts on him.

Re:Nice design (1)

narcberry (1328009) | more than 5 years ago | (#26414059)

You know, they'd make something new if you guys didn't keep buying this crap hoping it was good this time.

Pretty art (2, Interesting)

n dot l (1099033) | more than 5 years ago | (#26406515)

You know, I never really did care all that much for the whole JRPG play style, but, damn I love the artwork they put into those games. It's something I have trouble finding in other genres (though I don't game that much so maybe I'm just not looking in the right spots). Most of the other stuff I see tends to go to either Star Trek Wannabe Universe #45342, Medieval European Haunted Castle Town #342847, or Gritty Contemporary City Streets #342721. It's just nice to look at something that's different every now and then.

Although I'm sure people that play tons of these games would be saying the same about any of the styles I think have been done to death.

Meh. Enough rambling.

Final Fantasy (4, Insightful)

ZekoMal (1404259) | more than 5 years ago | (#26406809)

I've only played 3 of the Final Fantasy games, but here's what I gather character wise:

One character will be excessively whiny and obnoxious (like Tidus whining about getting sucked into a kickass adventure with people like Auron and Wakka, AND getting a girlfriend out of it; or Vaan going from somewhat bearable to not knowing why he's even there and being an obnoxious brat). This one will possibly be blonde, and most likely be the 'main' character.

One character will be hilarious, like Wakka.

One or more inherently cool guys, who do awesome things in cutscenes.

A slew of women that tend to annoy (Yuna wants to die reallyreally bad, Ashe wants power, Penelo is a sidekick to the sidekick).

Main character should have little to nothing to do with the other people. Either fell outta the sky, or is not a leader/soldier but gets dragged in anyway. I know that earlier Final Fantasy (AKA before 10) games don't follow this, but since they've released a few games following this pattern, I'm thinking that'll be this.

Even so, I'm sure it'll be a cinematic masterpiece. The story is always awesome, and the graphics are always spectacular. The battles are fun, if not repetitive, and the game will probably have a toooon of little goodies to go get.

Re:Final Fantasy (1)

MindlessAutomata (1282944) | more than 5 years ago | (#26406895)

Main character has AMNESIA and needs to go on an epic journey in order to recover their lost memories instead of seeking clinical help.

Re:Final Fantasy (2, Insightful)

Nick Ives (317) | more than 5 years ago | (#26406911)

One character will be excessively whiny and obnoxious [...] This one will possibly be blonde, and most likely be the 'main' character.

VII & VIII. Squall in VIII had dark hair but was the most annoying lead character I've ever had to control in a video game. At one point his romantic interest (Rinoa) near enough came out and told him straight how she felt and he was a total dick to her. Cloud in VII was a dick too.

There was a line in the IX intro sequence which consisted of your lead characters gang, a travelling theatre troupe, having to kidnap a princess under the guise of performing a play. The play had a line that many believe is a coded apology for Cloud & Squall. Having not had the time to play a FF past IX I'm a little disappointed they went back to using walking cocks for main characters.

Main character should have little to nothing to do with the other people.

VII did this too. Cloud was a SOLDIER but definitely not a leader!

Re:Final Fantasy (1)

ravenshrike (808508) | more than 5 years ago | (#26411827)

Yeah, but at least Cloud had an excuse for being a dick. You'd be a dick too if you had been used in secret government experiments and seen most of your friends die or betray you. Squall, not so much.

Re:Final Fantasy (1)

tzhuge (1031302) | more than 5 years ago | (#26408199)

I think you only described the three FF games you played: VII, VIII, and X? Of the newer ones, IX, XII, and X-2 aren't really like that, and XI is right out. Like you said, the older ones don't really fit that mold either.

Re:Final Fantasy (1)

ZekoMal (1404259) | more than 5 years ago | (#26412201)

Oh dude, don't even get me staaaarted on X-2.

And...which XII did you play? Did you miss Vaan, Penelo, and Ashe being from that game? Or did you mean XI? Roman numerals means 2 'I' after X = not an odd number.

X-2 had a whole new problem: sacred summoner transformed into Britney Spears. In the opening sequence, they transformed the blitzball arena to a pop idol singing stadium, where we see a fake Yuna touching herself. Of course, we find out that Yuna does this all the time now with pop singing. If you want to even aaact as though that kind of game is deep, you are silly xD She took on the role of annoying very quickly. Unless, of course, you find teeny boppers to be very good musicians, in which case this abomination was a wonderful game.

I played X, X-2, and XII. Those would be the most recent ones (not including the online one, which I wouldn't include on this list as it is the only PC one). Ten involved whiny Tidus. Ten the sequel involved Britney Spears breaking Spira (I quit once she made it stop storming on the thunder plains by SINGING). 12 involved child Vaan who grew more childish as the plot developed.

The older ones do not follow this model perfectly, but several do.

Re:Final Fantasy (1)

Perky_Goth (594327) | more than 5 years ago | (#26414949)

"like Tidus whining about getting sucked into a kickass adventure with people like Auron and Wakka, AND getting a girlfriend out of it;"

Nevermind the fact that everyone he ever knew is LONG dead, even Auron as far as he knows.

Re:Final Fantasy (2, Insightful)

IorDMUX (870522) | more than 5 years ago | (#26420547)

Okay, your comment inspired me to throw this together. Behold, a review of the characters and character portrayal in each Final Fantasy!

FF I -- 0/5 - Your characters don't really have... "characters". Personality had not yet been invented.

FF II -- * To be honest... I never played this one.

FF III -- 3/5 - Even without individualized personalities, both PCs and NPCs manage to come off as quite lovable and entertaining in this NES classic, though it gets awkward when Princess Sarah expresses her love for you ... er... all of you.

FF IV -- 2/5 - Each character now has a specific personality, but these personalities tend to be more stereotypes than actual characters-with-dimension: I'm a bad guy! Rarrr! .. I'm a good guy! *holy* .. I'm his wife! *swoon* .. etc.

FF V -- 3/5 - Similar style to FF IV, but a definite improvement. This is the earliest FF with real individualized character attachment (who doesn't love Galuf?), and it really plays on this.

FF VI -- 5/5 - A slew of characters are presented, but this doesn't stop the game from giving each one a back story, personality, and room for growth. The myriad side-quests let you explore more of every character if you so desire, and the well-written dialog (no more "You spoony bard!") is a plus.

FF VII -- 3/5 - Fewer PCs in this game, and, somehow, not as well done as those in FF VI. Though the characters are developed more, they also seem to grow less. It's like everyone is waiting for Aeris to come back or something.

FF VIII-- 1/5 - Beginning of game: I'm emo, I'm goth, I'm a punk. *whine* ... ... End of game: I'm emo, I'm goth, I'm a punk. *sigh*

FF IX -- 5/5 - An excellent combination of VII's character scheme with VI's character development. Good guys and bad guys and the rest cover every available character niche, and even move between them as the story progresses. People lose their naivete, power corrupts, the lonely find family, etc. etc. etc. This game focuses more on the characters in your party than the world around them, and does it well.

FF X -- 4/5 - Similar to FF VII, but with a bit more simulated character growth. That, and Wakka is debatably the best FF character, ever.

FF XI -- NaN/5 - This game does not exist. Heathens!

FF XII -- 3/5 - Unfortunately, Vaan seems to get stupider as the game goes on. Other than that, Balthier rivals Wakka in many ways, and you do kind of get worried that Ashe just wants to rule the world. Some of the most *interesting* characters come from this game, but there is nary a side quest to develop them further. Sadly, all the side quests were converted from miniature storylines to MMO style grinds and runs.

So there you have it!
I think I'll go play FF III once this day is out.

Re:Final Fantasy (1)

ZekoMal (1404259) | more than 5 years ago | (#26421507)

You forgot the sequel to FF X; FF X-2. FF X-2 was heralded as a truly great game; I have been hard pressed to find someone who hated the game that wasn't a swear mongering moron...buuut....

Final Fantasy X-2 was paaainful. If you haven't played it or seen it yet....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyqX1SNuwzc. That pretty well covers it.

Re:Final Fantasy (1)

IorDMUX (870522) | more than 5 years ago | (#26422849)

Yeah... I ignored that for a reason. I chose to rebuke the demons of FF XI, but X-2? It warrants not a mention.

Re:Final Fantasy (1)

ElleyKitten (715519) | more than 5 years ago | (#26476257)

One character will be excessively whiny and obnoxious (like Tidus whining about getting sucked into a kickass adventure with people like Auron and Wakka, AND getting a girlfriend out of it;

Tidus wasn't whiney! By the end of the game he figures out that finishing their mission is going to cause him to *cease to exist*, yet he tells no one! He just accepts it!

Time to buy a Playstation 3? (1)

C4st13v4n14 (1001121) | more than 5 years ago | (#26406961)

I'm really looking forward to this game, but I'm not looking forward to buying a Playstation 3 in order to play it. Given their recent history of releasing games only for the Playstation or handhelds, I doubt we'll ever see this come to the PC. I've been a fan of the Final Fantasy series since the beginning. I'm a happy owner of Final Fantasy VII and VIII for the PC and I've played them both several times. I was never interested in getting a Playstation when it came out. After Super Nintendo, I got a computer and never looked back. Final Fantasy IX certainly tempted me into getting the original PS, but I waited. After X and X-2 came out, it was clear the only way I was going to play these games was either by getting a Playstation 2, or waiting for an emulator. As it turns out, I bought a slimline PS2 a few months after they had hit the shelves. Until this day, the Final Fantasy games and Dragon Quest games are still the ONLY games I own for the PS2. I've even played all the Japanese Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest games for Famicom and Super Famicom, which could be done on the US consoles with just a cheap adapter :)

Re:Time to buy a Playstation 3? (1)

SeeManRun (1040704) | more than 5 years ago | (#26406975)

They are of course bringing it out on xbox 360 as well, but not sure how that will work out given the 9 gig max dvd size... Could the game spawn 5 discs...

Re:Time to buy a Playstation 3? (1)

SuiteSisterMary (123932) | more than 5 years ago | (#26415467)

Well, they'll just have to not have the video raw, or on the disc twice.

None of the 360 JRPGs by Final Fantasy creator Hironobu Sakaguchi have had a problem with disc length. :-)

Re:Time to buy a Playstation 3? (0, Troll)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 5 years ago | (#26407041)

I'm really looking forward to this game, but I'm not looking forward to buying a Playstation 3 in order to play it.

Don't. I bet you could rent one from someone or something. But if you buy a PS3 to play FFXIII then FFIX will only come on PSwhatever, too.

Don't suck Sony's cock. They won't respect you in the morning. They'll just come right after you again in the next generation, still with no lube.

Re:Time to buy a Playstation 3? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26408181)

Don't suck Sony's cock. They won't respect you in the morning. They'll just come right after you again in the next generation, still with no lube.

I hardly know why you've been modded insightful. Sony is not going to release a new PS system any time soon. And the ps2 is what.. like 8 years old?

Re:Time to buy a Playstation 3? (1)

Kligat (1244968) | more than 5 years ago | (#26410137)

Sony releases games, or remakes of games with better graphics and extended crap, for the PSP only. Why would I want a PSP if I have a PlayStation 2 or 3, just to play only one or two games that would have worked just as well on the console? Final Fantasy XIII is the only game on the PlayStation 3 I think would be worth playing, but I think hardly anyone would shell out $430 just for that.

The PlayStation 2 was by far the most popular console of the previous generation. When switch to another brand when buying a console from the current generation, like an Xbox 360 or a Wii, you get access to Xbox and Gamecube games because of backward compatibility, so it's like the game libraries are twice as large. This makes the PlayStation 3 library look even more minuscule by comparison.

Rather than get a PlayStation 3 to play FFXIII and whatever else is out there, I would just wait until 2019 when the PlayStation 4 or whatever they call it has been out for a few years and its price has dropped.

Re:Time to buy a Playstation 3? (1)

Walpurgiss (723989) | more than 5 years ago | (#26414281)

Interesting choice, making that argument without mentioning that the PS3 launched with hardware PS2/PSX backwards compatibility that had a high percentage of playable games.

Though the more recent models have had that feature reduced and cut, it probably not the best logic to use that argument to bash Sony. The PS3s with hardware for PS2/PSX games probably play a vast number more old games than the X360's game specific emulation can.

Re:Time to buy a Playstation 3? (1)

Perky_Goth (594327) | more than 5 years ago | (#26414971)

I think you missed the point. Not only do (most) people already have the PS2 (which plays PS2 and PSX games), but they probably already played most of the great games for it as well.
Not so much with the others consoles. It's an interesting point.

Re:Time to buy a Playstation 3? (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 5 years ago | (#26407073)

It's been announced that the game will be on the 360 as well. Probably not more interesting to you either, the impression I'm getting from the two HD consoles is that when you have a gaming-capable computer you can get pretty much everything they have for that.

Re:Time to buy a Playstation 3? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26410711)

the impression I'm getting from the two HD consoles is that when you have a gaming-capable computer you can get pretty much everything they have for that.

Wrong impression. I have a Mac and a Linux box - both definitively gaming-capable - and very few of the games are available.

Apart from that, even if my ethics had been different and I had been willing to give money to support Microsoft's theft from hospitals and governments, most of the games I play wouldn't have been available. The games I play are Final Fantasy, SingStar, Wipeout, Ratchet and Clank (and some other platformers), and a few other once-offs (Deus X and XII comes to mind, both of those have parallels on the PC).

Re:Time to buy a Playstation 3? (1)

Fallingcow (213461) | more than 5 years ago | (#26411043)

As it turns out, I bought a slimline PS2 a few months after they had hit the shelves. Until this day, the Final Fantasy games and Dragon Quest games are still the ONLY games I own for the PS2.

You should really, really pick up Suikoden III and Suikoden V. Also, the Crono Trigger PS1 re-release and Crono Cross, if you don't have them.

Avoid Suikoden IV; it's horrible.

Re:Time to buy a Playstation 3? (1)

sabre3999 (1143017) | more than 5 years ago | (#26416943)

I'll second the suggestion to pick up Chrono Trigger. I spent countless hours on that game when I was a kid and had my SNES, only to spend countless more when I picked it up for PS1. To add to the horror, they've now re-released it AGAIN on the DS and I'm still pouring hours there. Chrono Cross, OTOH, I didn't find as good. It was still palatable and I did finish it, but it never saw the same investment as Trigger.

Re:Time to buy a Playstation 3? (1)

Arivia (783328) | more than 5 years ago | (#26431847)

And Persona 3 and 4, to say nothing of the other SMT games. Mitsuru's probably the best RPG character ever.

how come it's not final?? (1)

lkcl (517947) | more than 5 years ago | (#26406971)

am i missing something, here? if it's the "final" fantasy, how come there's eight of them?

Re:how come it's not final?? (1)

Fumus (1258966) | more than 5 years ago | (#26407077)

Because the first game was to be the last game before the company went bankrupt or sth. And surprisingly, the game gathered so much interest that the company went on creating other games.

Re:how come it's not final?? (4, Informative)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 5 years ago | (#26407081)

1. The joke has been tired for decades already
2. You need to learn how to read Roman numbers again.

Re:how come it's not final?? (1)

ZorbaTHut (126196) | more than 5 years ago | (#26408175)

I've always felt that the US release of Final Fantasy III was possibly the most misnamed game in existence.

* It's not final.
* It's not actually fantasy.
* Technically, it's not really #3 either.

Re:how come it's not final?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26409317)

Well with the exception of Final Fantasy X-2, none of the games were a sequel to each other and started over in a totally new world. So really, each particular world was having it's own "final" fantasy.

Re:how come it's not final?? (1)

default luser (529332) | more than 5 years ago | (#26419783)


* Technically, it's not really #3 either.

This isn't as bad as it sounds. I've played all the Final Fantasy games released for NES/SNES, and of the three not released in the US, only one is passingly decent (FF3).

FF2: It seemed like I was always going back to the same castle time-after-time whenever a quest was complete, to get my next quest. BORING. The "use it or lose it" stats system was also incedibly annoying, because Square hadn't embraced useful batttle concepts like GUARD - imagine your wizard LOSING intelligence because they (worthlessly) hacked their dagger at a monster in-battle. You're constantly fighting to keep characters on the right stats path, because GAINING stas in one area means you LOSE stats in another.

FF5: same engine as FF4, but the characters and storyline sucked. The storyline was too predictable, and the character personalities were paper-thin. The game writers were too pussified to even "kill" major party members - when the one major party member DOES die (obvious from miles away), his daughter MAGICALLY gains his stats and powers, and joins the party. There is absolutely no plot fallout, and absolutely no justification for his death, other than finishing-off the last of the "old" Dawn Warriors.

Oh yeah, the FORCED job system in this game sucks balls. I never understood why the "non-job" character class existed at all - it had no stats bonus, and room for TWO custom battle controls. Your character was more capable in a beefy job class.

Re:how come it's not final?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26420311)

Non-job existed in FF5 because it allowed you to wear any equipment in the game without wasting your second skill slot. Thus, if you wanted, you could have a magic user wearing heavy armor to compensate for their crappy defense or to use stronger weapons if you didn't want to waste MP on spells. You also don't suffer as much from stat skewing from being in a particular class.

By the end of the game, it ends up one of the best classes because of equipment and skill combinations you could never get otherwise.

Re:how come it's not final?? (1)

morari (1080535) | more than 5 years ago | (#26407167)

Because they have nothing to do with each other. Square-Enix should really learn how to use subtitles instead of increasing digits. Digits imply sequels, whereas none of the games relate to each other in any conceivable manner. On the off chance that they do, you end up with utterly retarded sounding titles like "Final Fantasy X-2". Yeaaah...

Re:how come it's not final?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26407345)

btw, XIII is thirteen not eight

Re:how come it's not final?? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26407443)

Because Square Enix likes money and Final Fantasy fanbois are stupid enough to buy anything with the name "Final Fantasy" in it. (As an example, look at the 300,000+ people still playing Final Fantasy Online despite the fact that it's a crappy EverQuest clone and that it costs about as much to play as World of Warcraft, an infinitely superior game.)

Someone always points out that the world the games take place in is always different, which is true.

Now if only the gameplay varied from game to game in any meaningful way.

Nintendo gets away with throwing Mario into everything they do because the games are all different and new. Square Enix's version of "innovation" is seeing how many more polygons they can stick into their models. It's all about the graphics.

And there have been way more than thirteen Final Fantasy games. Final Fantasy VII spawned something like four sequels. Final Fantasy XII also had a sequel, and I'm not counting Final Fantasy Tactics.

They're well beyond twenty "Final" Fantasy games if you bother to count them up.

Oh, and don't listen to the idiots saying that "Final Fantasy" was to be Square's last game. It's not true. The real story is that the guy who designed Final Fantasy was retiring, so it was HIS last game. His Final Fantasy as it were. The game sold well, so Square Enix decided to rape it for the next two decades.

Re:how come it's not final?? (1)

KDR_11k (778916) | more than 5 years ago | (#26407657)

Actually the FF games are fairly conservative when it comes to hardware use (FF12 had less polygons than FF10 from what I read), they just use art direction and trickery to get the looks.

As for things like the FFT and FFCC series those are pretty much unrelated games using the same trademark since the core gameplay differs much more than the numbered FFs differ from each other (well, okay, 11 and 12 did change it a lot but they're still pretty much RPGs, FFT are SRPGs and FFCC are action games with a bit of stat growth and in one case even city management) so the lack of numbering is probably appropriate (some people argue that 11 shouldn't have been numbered).

So Final Fantasy actually had a "final" for someone? I figured it was just another case of non-English speakers deciding those words sound cool together and just throwing them together with urban legends arising later.

Re:how come it's not final?? (1)

sqlrob (173498) | more than 5 years ago | (#26407687)

IIRC, the first one was "Final" because if it didn't succeed, the company was toast.

Re:how come it's not final?? (1)

tzhuge (1031302) | more than 5 years ago | (#26408269)

Err... actually Final Fantasy practically saved Square... They were going to be toast before its release, and that's why it's "Final"

Re:how come it's not final?? (1)

ShigureBerry (1391257) | more than 5 years ago | (#26415009)

They poured all of their money into one last game as a last ditch effort. They basically handed the designers the remaining bucket of cash and they came up with "Final Fantasy". Turned out that it was popular enough in Japan to save the company so they made a follow up... then another... and another... you get the picture.

Re:how come it's not final?? (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | more than 5 years ago | (#26409711)

FF 12 had to use less polygons than 11 or 10, battles take place in the overworld, no cutting to battle scene. Adds can show up, increasing the number of battle participants, the battles are also in semi real-time, meaning one character can be casting a fire spell, while another is using a buff and another is meleeing or shooting or whatever instead of the one-character-or-enemy-acts-at-a-time nature of the earlier games. Plus, you can move the camera at will. The environments seem nicer though, less grainy than 11's.

Re:how come it's not final?? (1)

sqlrob (173498) | more than 5 years ago | (#26407619)

8? There's a hell of a lot more than 8, and more than the 13 the number indicates. There's the tactics games (at least 4 of 'em), X-2, the expansion packs for XI, Crisis Core, Cerebus, Dissidia, XII Vs., and probably more that don't come immediately to mind.

Re:how come it's not final?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26410023)

I agree with the comment that you need to learn Roman Numerals. I also suggest you learn how to read Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_fantasy#Origin

Ice schmice! (0, Offtopic)

Renozhin (1423301) | more than 5 years ago | (#26406987)

It's the less slick one, albeit still slick, with more of that white stuff than ever! Get their album now and listen to their latest hit: "Snow Snow Baby"! Give it up for Vanille Snow!

Where's the FF XI sequel? (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 5 years ago | (#26407255)

Seriously?

Or a WoW server with an enforced age requirement? I stopped playing WoW because of the other players, not because of the game... I wish Blizzard would release a home server already.

Re:Where's the FF XI sequel? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26408067)

Maybe this is a hint that you know, it might be time to move on in life from video games. I know it's difficult to find other interests when games are all you've ever known, but the results pay off in the long run. Trust me.

So tired of Final Fantasy (-1, Troll)

LordKaT (619540) | more than 5 years ago | (#26407477)

Maybe it's just my western tastes, but Final Fantasy is dead to me. VI and VII were OK in my mind, but not nearly as great as some people claim.

XII caused reviewers to gush all over themselves and suck SE's cock like a bunch of little whores. Like a moron, I gave in and bought the game. What a mistake.

First, I do not, for the life of me, understand why the Japanese have such an affection for storybook games. It's like being read a book by horrible voice actors.

Second the whole stop and go of XII drives me nuts. Stop here, listen to 20 minutes of dialog, go here, fight this, stop here, listen to 20 minutes of dialog, etc... It's repetitive, predictable, and just downright boring. Why can't the story be a part of the game play? Instead, it's a "reward" for killing difficult monsters. Believe me, the way some of these stories are written, I couldn't give a shit about it.

Third, uber-power is boring. By the time I'm halfway through one of these games, I'm tearing my way through left and right, eliminating almost any strategy these monsters were supposed to force me to create.

Fourth, why the fuck does SE continue to put in these annoying fucking mini-games into FF? In XII you, at one point, have to go around and talk to everyone in order to advance. Why? why is this shit in a game? Spreading gossip is not interactive game play - it's fucking annoying.

Finally, the guys at SE have no imagination. I mean, none. Can we get something other than flying continents, underground cities, and someone trying to take over the known universe?

I'm not asking for an open world, or even changing the core game play mechanics (although, in the long run, I think FF would be better serves by dropping the walk-story-fight-story cycle) but something else needs to be done to this franchise before I'll ever buy into the hype again.

Shit, give me mutated squirrels that are trying to destroy a village. Even if they just change the goddamn story from "evil guy (and it's always a guy) from evil entity X wants more power to take over the known world" to "a group of misfit elephants has decided to stage a protest, disrupting your supply of elephant leg lamps, forcing you to find an alternate supply chain"

Re:So tired of Final Fantasy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26407663)

Even if they just change the goddamn story from "evil guy (and it's always a guy) from evil entity X wants more power to take over the known world"

The 'guy' in Final Fantasy VIII was a girl from the far flung future who was trying to compress all points in time into a single moment so she could be with her boyfriend.

You might want to, you know, actually play some of these games before you make massive generalizations about them.

Re:So tired of Final Fantasy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26407729)

It isn't always a guy. Take a look at FF8.

Re:So tired of Final Fantasy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26407763)

Off topic, but FFXI (the MMORPG) was my Final Fantasy anathema. Square-Enix have a fetish for integrating absurd quantities of numbing repetition in their games. It's one of many reasons why FFXI has only a trickle of new players, and primarily why I no longer play it. All the problems you cited with the series are present in their online version, excluding the point about your character being overpowered at any time; to keep with their forced grouping agenda (pervasive to nearly every worthwhile activity in the game) SE have ensured your character is only slightly above fodder in terms of survival odds when alone in most battle situations.

Everything else you mentioned is present in FFXI in some form or another, the stupid mini "games" especially. I had personally heard that FFXII was actually decent so I had a look online and in store. The similarities between it and FFXI were to me like kryptonite is to Clark Kent. After seeing the screenshots and reading up on the battle system, any desire I had to even sample the game was extinguished. Looks like I'll be avoiding FFXIII and anything else that company releases, indefinitely.

Re:So tired of Final Fantasy (1)

CronoCloud (590650) | more than 5 years ago | (#26409743)

For me, 12 is like a "good parts" version of 11. Has the things I liked without the other crap and although the main plot line is linear you can go off and do little quests or beat up on Marks for the Hunt game practically whenever you want.

The ones I've played (2, Interesting)

rxan (1424721) | more than 5 years ago | (#26408295)

I started playing FF at 6, and played each one through until 10 (and regrettably, 10 two). I also partly played 12.

7 had great gameplay for the time and also a great story with lots of twists.

8's gameplay wasn't as good as 7 for me. The story was a drag until this second disk, when it actually started to get some substance.

9's gameplay I absolutely loved. I loved how you gained abilities from the items by gaining ability points. The story was uninteresting though.

10's gameplay and story were both great. But the story was strictly linear, and it almost felt like you were playing a movie.

10 two was a joke. Enough said about that.

12's story was a drag, the characters were a drag, and it was the first FF game I started and actually quit playing all together. The game played itself on its own. You know there's something wrong with a game when you enter a boss battle and don't have to even touch the controller. The thing that finally made me stop playing was when you figured out that the dark ghost things appearing behind the evil guys were actually gods of some sort who were controlling the destiny of everything. Way to fail, square.

So basically, make a game that is playable, has better gaming mechanics, and has characters and a story that doesn't suck. Usually FF games fail in one of these areas. I'm still praying for you Square!

Re:The ones I've played (1)

PhoenixAtlantios (991132) | more than 5 years ago | (#26414571)

It could just be that you're no longer a part of their target audience, tastes change over time. I couldn't bring myself to play FFX past one of the earlier underwater sections (I think it was just after meeting a female sidekick) for much the same reasons that you abandoned FFXII; it was a drag. Completely uninteresting to me, yet others (like you) rave about how fantastic it is. When it was FFIX, I was the one raving about how fantastic it was and other Final Fantasy fans were saying it was terrible. I guess my point is that it is possible that you just left Square's target audience and it isn't their fault; the games have always held a similar quality that appeal to a demographic you just left.

Re:The ones I've played (1)

TheThiefMaster (992038) | more than 5 years ago | (#26416369)

I started by playing VII, then went back and played 4-6 on SNES emulator (they weren't available for sale at the time, I've since bought IV for the DS). I played up to X-2, and I've also recently tried X1, so here's a bit of fill-in:

4 had a good but pretty standard good/evil story, spells were gained purely by level-up or plot, with very little ability to customize characters. Had an annoying tendency to kill off the characters you were using or have them leave, but a good game.
5 used the "job" system, essentially character classes. A lot of people aren't a fan of this. Story is mediocre and character names are ridiculous.
6 was set in a "steampunk" environment. Spells are learned from equipped summoning "magicite". VII's materia seems to be based on this stuff. Add a good story, and all in all a very good game.

11 sucks, at least at the start, and I didn't get further. Multiple username/password combinations needed to get in (both username and password being random), and an unintuitive front-end. No real indications as to where you are supposed to go to do the early quests (what am I supposed to do with the name of someone I've never met or some place I've never been? Give me a damn arrow). I couldn't bring myself to play it more than once. Dull gameplay, and even duller graphics, at least where I started. Brown, grey, more brown, more grey...

Needs a PC Version (1)

FenrirIII (965763) | more than 5 years ago | (#26435795)

The FF series was always my favorite as a teenager; I played every version available to me all the way through FF9. As soon as the new wave of consoles started coming out though it got too hard to pick a console to stick with because of game diversity so I lost touch with the series. I love the stories, trite and very typical of your standard Anime, and enjoyed the games tremendously. So I hope they will see the success of the FF MMORPG and make a port of this game for the PC. I don't buy consoles and I certainly won't buy one just for this game, so I'll keep my fingers crossed. (Before anyone comments, yes, I have played both FF7 & FF8 for the PC with mixed experiences. But that was a decade ago, hopefully technology has improved.)
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