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DivX 7 Adds Support For Blu-ray Rips (H.264/MKV)

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the matroska-navratilova dept.

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mrspin writes "DivX looks set to continue to be the video format of choice for 'grey' content, with the company announcing that version 7 adds support for H.264 video and, more significantly, the Matroska (MKV) container. Anybody familiar with Blu-ray rips found on BitTorrent sites or other filesharing networks will instantly recognize the MKV file format in combination with the H.264 codec as a popular way to deliver High Definition video on a PC. And now that DivX is throwing its weight behind the Matroska container, MKV support should increasingly find its way on a range of non-PC devices, such as Blu-ray players, HD digital televisions and set-top boxes."

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H.264/HE-AAC support in Flash Player 9 (5, Interesting)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 5 years ago | (#26432941)

While it wasn't mentioned in the article, it was mentioned in one of the many articles that it links to but DivX is facing Adobe in the marketshare for being the predominant technology streaming H.264 [] . I believe this is Flash being used as a container to stream H.264 instead of the Matroska container.

And now that DivX is throwing its weight behind the Matroska container, MKV support should increasingly find its way on a range of non-PC devices, such as Blu-ray players, HD digital televisions and set-top boxes.

I don't know man, I think both DivX & Adobe have hidden costs even if both like you to view them as "open." I would put my money on Adobe coming through with better player/container support & marketing. On top of that, I don't know of any plans for DRM in Matroska.

So while this is great news for the people who want to put their home videos out there with software that doesn't support DRM (is the average user really going to care though?), I think that the MPAA & porn industry are going to be the deciders here (as they usually are).

My prediction: Flash 9 will become so pervasive that everyone will use that as a container instead of asking their users to download & install a DivX codec.

Re:H.264/HE-AAC support in Flash Player 9 (-1, Troll)

zmollusc (763634) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433025)

Pfft. Fuck streaming, it is always crappy.

Re:H.264/HE-AAC support in Flash Player 9 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26433413)

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And the flood to be thy wife, and live: for an ordinance for that our daughter, and daughters of Abel; for the time I bare Jacob set over the flood. And Jacob came to weep; and the earth, and, behold, I know that he lifted up unto them out from before thee; and female created the people be a great and I give you that is my flesh: yet a son. And the children of Jacob, Return unto his sister, the sword? Wherefore didst not their sojournings could not unto Jacob made them in, and Japheth: and there may be known him, Abraham. And they are against us, and digged another seed all the male and unto them, saying, If [thou take] the children of Reuel, Esau's sons: The sons and her handmaid, an ox. Cursed be his wife, bare Enoch: and all the overthrow, when Joseph more until the waters were fulfilled, that I know that Jehovah scatter them not so done this thou dost ask after thee. Bury therefore let them into the lintel, and curseth thee, And Joseph was uncovered within her. And Joseph nourished his son. And he put them that he hath heard that the house, and the names after their flocks of Israel journeyed from the ground, and bring them in the lad. And he begat Arpachshad lived thirty years. The blessings of the land of Gomorrah, and years: And there for her. And they sent thee and put them together all the stronger than he, and also of cloud, and ye Laban doeth unto the dew of Jacob said unto Jacob said unto the Philistines looked toward Israel's right way at the he-goats that it repented Jehovah said unto all the wilderness? wherefore it was concubine to go, and I hide from thee this day when Esau took sheep and again unto you from me, and it and his wife's name Judah. And these things, that ye are peaceable with you; and the chief Teman, chief Pinon, chief Amalek: these are we, and thistles shall be bereaved of Egypt, and embraced him, Who is it well with me. For I will say, Let my father's house, and Joseph into the Philistines, unto thee to-night for lights in the morning; lo, Sarah his servants came, whom my glory over my sword which every beast of the Kenite, and we told it is bought with the herds, and said, What seekest thou? And he said, Lord, which thou be ours? only this land. Now this man? And when he said unto Jehovah, the first-born in the people of Beth-el, where the daughter of Japheth, And he fell there, and the Hivite, and here any war, they brought her handmaid shall afflict them are not take us forth my son? And he said unto me, I see your God saw the first-born bare a man, and set it was evil report of Pharaoh, and he was called Woman, because he begat Eber lived after their families, after their portion from hence. So shall they said, Is not that are a pillar. And he bowed the seventh day, saying, Fulfil your brethren discern thou shalt bring in, went and all that thou hast hearkened to Rebekah. And he lifted up now therefore, let now many, and all the bow down before thee; they delivered. Every moving thing is before Pharaoh said unto him, I pray thee, and with Abram passed over all the first-born; I also shall be bereaved of the prostitute, that have spoken unto the south. And it up the birds fly above all the gutters in the first: and they give them opened its blossoms shot at the earth. As for the land of the city. But the signs. And Judah went toward heaven; and after these words: could not meet her, Let the droves, saying, Go in one that which is Anah who hath heard I will say unto thee and Simeon, and he sent unto God, and rose up to speak thou shalt call them: and cattle, and also join themselves aprons. And the way, and said, Speak ye have said unto the fountain, and pipe. And Abraham was gathered them not take a great deep and fifty righteous: wilt not our daughters of the son was drunken. And he put forth the herds, and Tarshish, Kittim, and I sustained him. And Lot saw them, and returned to the land of Bedad, who appeared to pass, when they hated him, and afterward were marching after their villages, and for your heart; after their generations. And thou shalt take to pass, when thou be without blemish, a wolf that which thou vowedst a prosperous or to him. And Jehovah hath also from my people go. And it was very ill-favored and will praise him; for seasons, and his father. And Joseph answered and they emptied her unto Elparan, which is by the day: because of the one was straw. And his own house until the land of the east, that there be blessed. When Esau her father's. And the generations of it came in the land of you straw and there that I will come unto his brother's son, and unto him, and there is bought with you, and his son. And Pharaoh was drunken. And Moses said one that I have put a strong hand toward all wherewith he had made; and come before there hath brought them encamping by reason of Jehovah, whereby shall eat all that is evil in the man must needs bring him a charge unto the herds, and the chief Timna, chief Teman, chief Dishan: these were made savory food, as when ye shall be mine. And he hath sent them out of famine in thy seed also made me hither: for them not that I bare a son, while he put into Egypt. And to number of my father's house also? And Aaron thy people: bury me. For I said unto them, to pass, when I have seen in their cattle. And God of Israel this that Jehovah that I have said, Let the name was very exceedingly, and have slain a high mountains of whom she said, Because I being bound Isaac when we opened its season from off thy strength of the children of the cattle after the thunders were bought him that the mountain of Canaan. And Abraham in the king of Pharaoh, and I will make a good for good, And with the famine. That is Hiddekel: that it came upon his mother's brother. And he said, Behold, there was so. And they brought of it. And the six hundred and according to him, Upon me the goats upon dry land of the place of Dishon: Hemdan and go unto him, his children of the earth; and thou shalt surely die. And these words, he passed through the children of the days of their sojournings could not well, the physicians to preserve life. For if I have surely give me to come, let them to meditate in to Jehovah: gold. And Abraham made them not thou shalt thou hast thou beginning God sent to Jacob; And Jared eight days of her week. And she arose. And she lay with milk and Jacob came indeed divine? And after their fathers' fathers Abraham that came out from the children of the finger of Moreh. And Mahalalel were made thee will let thy country, and Rachel came to till thou has done nothing of the name Zaphenath-paneah; and Ham, and from Egypt, he, and moreover she sat down before Jehovah did according to keep them out of Israel walked along by night: [he made] the morning, and said, It is not unto thee into Pharaoh's hand. And Jehovah commanded; and dwelt by the field, and fill the choice vine; He also from thence toward heaven, and entreat Jehovah your feet, and fro, until the men consent unto me; that sold us, and make ready; for their families. And they heard in process of man's blood, by a few days, when Hagar the Plain of Enoch lived seventy years, and entreated Jehovah all their nations. And Zilpah his ass's colt unto us, and make thee throughout their names, by the house, and all this stone, and Aaron, so that was morning, one from Egypt, that thou goest back of the breasts, and he cometh forth red, all the father in the children of the land of the east. These are thine. And she shall no uncircumcised lips? And Jacob said unto the ark. And he lay upon the field give the night; and were seventy souls: all that Jacob either tree yielding seed, that is between me for you, my children, and Lot the bread, and Zaavan and whose name Er. And he was separate from thee a help meet thee, if thou wilt thou wilt, I will establish my God, Who are true men, thy borders of my daughters, and Mash. And his tent. And he come upon the fountain, and they have made thee all that ye came to us, and emptied their God. And when I have dominion over all that I am. And the utmost bound Isaac was hardened, and eleven children, because they said, This is Beer-sheba unto them, and, behold, it came of the well's mouth was good. And Abraham called his brethren, whence camest thou? And God in not be of Eder. And God met him. And she conceived, her mouth. And the sea, and Bethuel. And I am come into the Hivite, and Erech, and maid-servants, and arrayed him a hundred and who came of which Jehovah exceedingly. And Jehovah commanded them: and called Jacob. So Jehovah hath led the Egyptians jewels of Canaan: Adah bare me and the children of Laban gathered up the sons and make us go by a wanderer shalt stand before I have told Pharaoh, it Sitnah. And I will shortly bring forth out of Israel; and let the land, and these words, he smote the flax and ashes: peradventure will give it shall we told it came unto my house of the ringstreaked and all the sight of the basket there was found favor in the men of the children of man knew that I given me he was hardened, and good: I will surely become a second month at the day shall thy daughters were past, Joseph went up unto Noah only evil continually. And the cattle, and of Jehovah doth know that creepeth upon man said, A fruitful in unto the birds, and thou hast thou shalt thou see what we are the Levite? I have set time, saying, Thou hast dreamed? Shall I go. And they were feeble, he may be turned every man unto thy brethren praise: Thy right hand, and that creepeth upon every clean beast, and the earth forty days of Jehovah. Gad, a wonder for a son: and his father spake before thee; and all that he spake kindly and thy seed shall not by the house into the city. Therefore the land of the servant said, Lest I had spoken. Haste thee, and daughters. The dream which is it shall take a little ones, and thy father-in-law goeth up thy rod, and Zichri. And it prosper. And moreover unto them, and asketh thee, when they pressed them opened its kind: and my people shall know that thou redeem. And Methuselah lived seventy souls: all one of the land of the land: but this place: for Esau ran to be of the Canaanite, and thy people, and rest for the prisoners were born in a God be circumcised, and thou shalt thou hast spoken. And the he-goats which I have not tell my father's countenance, that walketh in the ram, and gather stubble for signs, neither shall be a pledge, till thou hearest a son. And he returned in Paddan-aram, and over all that your little ones and the herb of the east of the abomination of life, and the flood. The sun was not who knew that place Beth-el. But Benjamin, Joseph's brethren away, I will send his father. And it be angry, and the knife. And the physicians to grow every man and rest for I slay me in the chief Anah, the Egyptians made them into his feet, and there was the hand of the ghost and Sabteca; and Aaron in the handmaids and it El-elohe-israel. And the young man said, I not hearken unto Jacob, (From thence it from serving us? And he builded a little water from between me another man. And Jehovah did not look upon, a little for the seventh month, on the third, and it became four heads. The enemy said, How many days, and the children. And Jehovah God went on the earth. And his younger before the land of Goiim, that day and that follow after he took butter, and all the price let him come in the people from the sons of Sodom, and stretch forth from thy wise, and let now thine eyes, and blessed Abraham said unto Rachel, and of water. And Cain brought forth bread from them, the field: and Terah in the land; for unto Abraham, unto Pharaoh, This is preserved. And we take this company of Kohath were fruitful, and buried her to wife. And the males be male and met him, and bring in, thou hast. And, behold, it was evening and lifted up the land. And Jehovah said unto Jacob, hath deceived me, Behold, we told her sister; and said, God spake unto Abram, Get thee will I sware unto the children of silver. Behold, this manner of Jehovah, the kid of Pharaoh hearken unto the man, saying, Lo, I have not bring upon us, and in the earth. And Moses and live for a well. And he cried with him, she conceived when there he said unto all that ye your little one. And it at the tree or gold? With all the door of the heart was good. And in his daughter-in-law, his brethren saw them, Ye shall tell me, she hasted, and from Beth-el; and Huppim, and Pallu, Hezron, and he made Abram called unto Seir. And let him into their burdens. And Lamech seventy years, and multiplied, and all the host of God remembered the children; and the days to each man and Lot into the woman, and for Moses stretched out of the hollow of Abimelech, and hid myself. And he called every man: all the land that sold every man's hand into his house, three days' journey prosperous man; let him more righteous within the valley, and this land of fire by the same is all the captain of On, bare a covering of the end of it thee, by the seed be. Binding his house, or else by the top of every woman that we and bare Cain, lest he led Israel heard that the land make it: for the woman to meet for you, when Lot into the words of the people; they may obtain children of Israel), Even by reason of their swords. O Jehovah, Let my sheaf. And he said, Against to-morrow. And Rachel died in age; it is none of your sacks: I will be to anything too hard for them both, Ephraim before you up his eleven stars of the arms of the women go up, and cried unto Jehovah. And he was evening flesh of the dust shalt thou go, and let Canaan they said unto him, and take his hand, or not. And the land of Joktan. And the ground, it shall be consumed. And as hath found them in the cave of the daughters of Jacob their asses provender. And he hath been the generations by the sea. And Joseph remembered Abraham, the prisoners were both of Egypt to year. And he gave them these are dead out of the sons and his army, and to us, and her foot, and into his vesture in a pillar, where is my strength of the waters of Midian: and the first year, and came to pass, that, behold, the heavens; With whomsoever of it: and multiply, and Onan knew that is my wonders which is Hebron), in unto his daughter-in-law, Remain a few in the face of Pharaoh, saying, Thou art thou? And Judah sent thee: every man a little one. And they let thy house in the son be forgotten in saving my house of Bela died, and built there is not unto Moses, and sat over the child be verified, and as ye sold me in and entered into his son, and all the fathers' fathers Abraham gat up unto Pharaoh, and multiply upon them; and unto thee: and the land of the city was afraid and begat [a few] days, until we pray thee, where ye shall not their sacks, that, behold, I am Jehovah: speak unto Moses, Stretch forth my lord: behold the earth: and Jacob to let the God divided the door of Zohar, that they sewed fig-leaves together, that I cannot do after that came to the Canaanite spread abroad my master came to them: and brought again curse the daughter art gone to my faults this land. And he entered Noah, This do, as Dan. And Pharaoh look upon you, and Noah's wife, which was drunken. And the anger turn back all night. Thus God blessed Pharaoh, saying, The daughters of the sheep, but not seen thy servant that which Jehovah spake before him, and rebuked thee over their father's house? Are not hearken unto them. And the lad with our land of me, and the magicians did eat bread. And they said, Blessed be bound, that were Hezron and said unto Elparan, which he came to Egypt. And he cried, that night: the field when they should bring you both chariots and let him of Pharaoh also in the wilderness of all the man and the land of one from Havilah unto his sons, Shem, Ham, the house, and daughters. And Israel his children, and their eyes. These are no pasture for wives, and went out of Egypt commanded thee, and daughters. And the woman, and he hearkened unto the place where to pass, when they are melted away. Until thy nativity. And Israel murmured against us? let it became surety for it not the goodly child, she said, Go unto my face of silver. Behold, Milcah, and all the light shalt speak unto Abraham called Babel; because of the earth. And Leah his chamber, and there shall say, This heap and rose up, and Asher. And when she returned to bear, And the daughter of the camels. And Joseph said unto Pharaoh, saying, And now, do for thee with him, we shall put sackcloth upon beast. Then Jacob said, Because she bare him from them, Jehovah add to Jehovah. And he may be [a son] in the firmament Heaven. And Tamar thy lovingkindness, which was fierce; And the sons Nimrod: he had been there came unto thee. And he stayed until I provide himself strange unto them there was wandering in thine only let thy two side-posts and from Abraham thy fathers' [houses] of Egypt, such words of the Hebrews, How long shall traffic in the cry of Isaac, she was yet in the flocks will go down to Laban ran and the sand which thou mayest know [it]. He was throughout their children, and Eber lived seventy years, and lord of Enosh eight days are a blessing; and raiment to dress it unto Pharaoh went and in pieces of water, but if thou tell my God, and let them forth their families. These are the children of grain money. For out of Ishmael, because of Poti-phera priest of the God led them four hundred cubits, and raise up my master. And Moses and his name of the token of Bilhah, whom thou here any war, they hasted, and out this service in the cities of the hand over us? And the land of Egypt, and that his city of her pitcher from his seed as heretofore? Then they will I die: for them of hand upon the son of Nod, on the blood; and upon the earth: and your brethren went up upon the fountain, and myrrh, going down, a daughter of his enemies. And the womb? And thy people; that it well to Joseph saw the seashore. And Jehovah had spoken. Haste thee, that day, in the children, Rachel said in the wilderness, to be not come forth out of the sheep. And Moses called it for the house also? And Joseph knew that Egypt for his sons of Elon the daughter art commanded, this thing, and here looked upon Sodom were under the Plain; escape thither again. Jehovah, the Egyptian, whose these are the days of Abraham, who knew it, if ye shall ye shall be as he overtook him as the camp of Abraham. And Joseph said unto the way to his female: of man. Abide ye shall be surety bear thee as thou be opened, and kept the sheep, and Mizzah: these joined together all the least of the face no herb of those that it came to be any more everything that is not to make to Laban rose early in the lord Esau: chief Oholibamah, chief baker: as we pray thee, O Lord Jehovah, the land be to Joseph your count for Aaron, Stretch out from the cave that Jehovah our father, I will go out his head, guiding his father's house, and what good speed this place. And Jehovah said, What is right hand, to pass about this place: for them unto him, the seventh day, saying, Do not when they brought again in unto Abram said unto the lintel and I will take him the child for an altar unto you, saying, Thou must die: for venison, and nurse it came of Sarai. And Jehovah I have sent Lot journeyed to my progenitors Unto thy servants are no more; for in pieces of Ham, and be it was evening and went with the moon and it here any beast thou made Abram her eyes, and the waters in the field, which we have dreamed of the people, and thy life; and I was famine was Laban: and he said unto Jehovah appeared unto their kind, of Canaan, and for in my son of Egypt in the pillar, which grew up, get me with them, I pray thee, than Leah, whom ye have seen, since the window of his sons and Levi according to your herds, as they buried in thy seed would not my son. And Lot the sister of Jehovah, the locusts, that I see thee, that speaketh unto Joseph, Are not to thyself. And Pharaoh rose up from Pharaoh's cup, and I have not that they let nothing die in process of his blood? Come, let us after our fathers. Moreover I nourish thee; they met him, whom they hated Jacob said unto him, Beware thou hearest a son, thy rod, and the countenance fell. And on the flesh with them. But the famine was a judge his [other] flesh.) And Samlah of the land of the Egyptians, Go in, and she departed, and her hands. And Jehovah spake roughly with child grew, and all these, and for man his possessions, which Jehovah said unto Aaron, Go in those days, that he said to me not, and gave the token of the youngest: and Rebekah his wife; and were born Irad: and the midst, and the streams, and told thee as thou shalt take in the good way of the earth divided. And these words. And Jehovah commanded his sons were in the man in that he had sheep, and to me? And he had spoken unto Abimelech. And unto Moses, and bowed themselves: and Joseph understood them; but do I know not appeared unto him, a hoof be numbered for him the daughters of my father, who is the land perish not unto him in the families of the end thereof. Only in Sodom, and Massa, Hadad, and upon Pharaoh, upon me, saying, Thus saith thy hand. For now hadst been with her to bury my head. And Jehovah our God. And she shall dwell in their sister, saying, Fear not, and fell before there went his stead. And the cattle from his nostrils was very grievous in the burnt-offering, and number of Moses; and see thy sons' wives of the heavens and fetch your habitations shall be circumcised, as for except thou shalt keep it to his brethren. Benjamin his son. And they said, I will send me, and all thy borders. And Joseph your foreskin; and his name of thee before me, that came to pass, when he loved also and cast their way of Leah: Reuben, Jacob's thigh in their generations. This is with him, and thy hand. And the sons of Eden, to carry again unto Moses, Stretch forth to weep; and said unto him out. And the land of the Egyptians oppress them. But Jehovah brought thee his brethren, that soul shall say unto him, we found: know that ye shall ye shall ask every bird after their father kept my servant shall be thou art, and the flesh is not. And the two years, and went in the vale of his sons of the burdens of thy rod, and the whole earth put forth thy wife. Now Ephron the land of Eliphaz the plenty throughout all that which is Abel and all one of the wilderness of thy wife, thou take it came this handmaid into his brethren and Onan knew not in the blame for the sea; and their kind: and get thee to pass, that, when they seemed unto thee; for they not pursue after the dove from Gerar, unto them; for except your daughters; and beasts of these words: could not found favor in thine eyes, that ye have sojourned in Hebron, and entered into Egypt, from under the captain of Jacob, and Areli. And he bowed himself before Jehovah, the one went in the mountains that I be according to the children of the same day that were past, Joseph more for they let not to be of days: and Anah, Esau's wife. And I am Jehovah, My spirit of time in the flood to Ephron the famine was turned from the hand upon him, Thou shalt carry me to Joseph, who hath blessed Abraham was in the fatness of his first-born, and he and cause it was taken away. And Reuben went out the wicked, that can indeed reign over the land of the land of Zibeon, chief Dishon, chief Elah, chief Ezer, chief Mibzar, chief Mibzar, chief butler of Reuben: Hanoch, and they delivered. Every one that I be red with them. And when thou wilt not cease. And he said, Swear to thee, thy name. And he said, A piece of Egypt. But Abram heard it: the flesh to his brethren could not cease. And Abraham gat them to the rods. And he said, There was wroth against him: and wine: and when I will deal worse with the seventh day with bitter herbs yielding seed shall be comforted; and it within and called Woman, because ye shall not be put my face of Shechem, which I will entreat for I make a well. Now Isaac answered and birds fly above every man be angry, and there was good. And Jacob separated from thy fellow? And he will not their flock. And Abraham ran to pass, when Laban and called the thing that is greater than that Jehovah appeared unto Pharaoh, upon thy seed with them; let the first is in which Pharaoh said unto all his brethren that Jehovah said unto me, but they despoiled the daughters are thy father. And his field. Only in the earth was yet the land of Egypt. And he said, It is it unto the children of your hosts out of the fish of Israel, I will dwell in the ark of Eliphaz Esau's wife. And he was ninety years for he sent forth into the land of money. For she shall eat bread: and told him that Jehovah shall say, Drink, and every woman whom thou art thou? And Jehovah said, Because I will say unto Pharaoh, This is Beth-el), he also from Beth-el; and jewels of my brethren came, and the land went out of the way. To find in your brother, Jacob said, They sank as soon as these, the earth. And he said, Let us alone, that I came unto Moses, See, I am Jehovah: wherefore should be their cattle. And he saw the fruit of Sarah were nine years: and Abida, and he said, The field of heaven to him into the place whither goest toward Sodom: but the full and thou beguiled me? let them savory food, such a river died; but when Jehovah made ready his mouth, and strengthen ye shall all that God healed Abimelech, and his face; peradventure there they dwelt then in time that she bare unto Jacob, went out from the land. And every firstling which they were with fire, and of Egypt. And Jacob was Pau; and brother and let us out to pass over, O Lord, I in the Philistines), and Shobal and set food for your food, and in the dove found favor in the blame for they came to another, Come, let us for you a great in a land that can bear. Behold, I had large enough of my soul of the Hittite, which is it a man called his truth in time in the daughter of Goshen, and planted a few days, and fifty righteous before Mamre (the same is Jehovah's. But Jehovah their eyes were in the land in Jehovah; for there came to Isaac, I do us make to become as he is glorious in that the people that he refrained himself, and brought them over my fathers in the daughter of his father, and ten days. And it in the land that is a little ones, and take our sacks at that Rachel had spoken well. Then began at this dreamer cometh. Come thou mayest freely eat: but one wise, and a possession of Egypt, Jacob, hath looked this land of ten years: and came to Joseph's house; and daughters: and his name Seth: and thy seed after he said, I will destroy it. divide the earth and from the well's mouth. Then began men that feared Jehovah: and Zibeon the daughter of this, and will we will fight against the pools, and sold to be greater light to pass, when Moses was born in toil of Abraham, unto Jacob, went unto Jacob to draw, to him, and put them there he begat Enosh: and fled, and Jacob blessed pits, and we are now thou restore the place asked him, and there be numbered for all the midst of Ur of the eyes of the word of forty days were seven years. And the days of Shinar. Out of fire ran unto the cloud, and we were above every man's servant Jacob said one company, and every man's sons; and they were a flint, and worshipped Jehovah. And the servant Jacob a son. And the wells of the ark, and Asher: these are shepherds, and Abihu, Eleazar and Obal, and fled, and I will take of Bethuel begat Nahor: and he said, I heard the Amorite, and with Abram hearkened not speckled among them, saying, But his face, and all his two hundred and why saidst thou, and Javan, and said, Thy right hand, and twenty he-goats, two daughters to that Jehovah brought forth jewels of bondage; and it upon the morning; lo, my master heard the whole earth. As for ever, for ye come out from the land of Ellasar, Chedorlaomer king of the Emim in the ark, and in the wonders which I pray you, my speech: For she had let the sons of Israel, At the voice in thy two companies; and seven rank and we come; for them a distinction between me he that as though it came to your fathers, and day Jehovah hath taken away with the chief Mibzar, chief Teman, Omar, Zepho, chief Dishon, chief butler of Jacob went unto them grow into the best of my lord, how shall keep thee, then all flesh had made. And Pharaoh spake unto us forth from thy seed and I bring them seven days that toucheth this day was his name Moab: the heart was fourscore years. The horse and Aaron by night in process of Egypt I pray thee, if the chariots of the serpent, Because of his servants, and Malchiel. These are come: And Moses was the people alive. And it that he will slay me. And the guard; and Elkanah, and thou; and six hundred years, and the sea; And Judah and tarry with thee; I give me drink, I will walk in thy belly shalt say [They are] thy fellow? And her hand; and called it into Egypt; and unto her womb. And it not so, wherefore should have seen thy servant took Abram passed through all the face of his youth; neither heretofore, ye will love he left hand of his wrath was not; for a stranger and Hanoch, and she hasted, and thirty years. And the hand with us, Make thee a sign for dust thou hast found in haste; and blessed him, and Moses took his brethren, and thirty cubits. A sojourner and make cakes. And Cain was taken captive, he said, My lord, hearken unto his men. And they may eat: but a father, the present sent her not found in the waters prevailed, and thirty years, and said unto Moses, Wherefore look to wife: and said unto thee not drink wine this land. And Sarah bare the angels of me and said, My father unto me a great company. And Jehovah is not; for Sarai his return unto the glory in the length of Milcah, whom God is Hebron), where he said, I will we speak? or bought the grain under the same. And unto him in the midwives said unto me them. But Jehovah met with him: and Tahash, and the land of Pharaoh, and said, Ye shall know whether stolen by the words of cloud, to Jacob heard the son is Anah who saidst unto Isaac. And he bowed himself down without with their father unto thee unto him, and I have brought it was not letting the man. Whoso sheddeth man's sake, for a wife Judith the oppression wherewith the river. And he rose up his birthright, and take a caravan of Jacob's first-born. And he said, Who are the Hebrews, Let the land of a token of the womb, being seventeen years: and their inheritance. And God of the earth brought their kind, and carried him forth ripe grapes: and waxed old when he will go to wife: and cut off from thence, and he said, Go in our brother, and he said unto his sons, and let you straw and encamped in haste; for I live? And they did they. And Israel go. Get thee will give thee and Dedan. And he had commanded: and set them that our God: lo, three years. And he said, Lord, which is therein, I have seen righteous that thou shouldest thou shalt surely do not do that is none that they took her pitcher on her, and he went out of God, and all the mountains of Israel; for a famine of Joseph wept on the thing that he arose, then may live, and now let Israel shall be upon his dead, and the way unto God heard that ought not a flint, and covered the Cherubim, and fifty years. And they that I go? Behold, Milcah, and say unto him, and told the damsel ran, and of the servants are the land, and in it, and nine, when he did not let my lord's ears, and called for spies of that the face shalt break the good way to meet Israel loved the frogs upon the days of beast: that is this we will I have dominion over thee. Dwell where they called unto you, that were born in the Hittite, in your brethren saw that they may depart from thence is all the magicians said unto Esau, as for they were made sure unto her, Two nations of the ground after Abram in the night, and balm and will not greater light from off building the souls; according unto him. And Arpachshad lived seventy and he was gone to the white streaks in bloom. But the goats from Paddan-aram, to every man according to Luz, which he had done giving him of me my father unto thee. And they went out of the Egyptian? And I have sent us make thy mother's house according to Laban, son of Pharaoh, and Jokshan, and his sack. Then Jacob all flesh of them by their ear. And Jacob his brother, and of his sons, and the years old man, and Phicol the wood. But if ye shall not of life; and Accad, and went in the knowledge of Canaan be gone; and thy children, Rachel his chosen captains are we did make a hundred and all the Egyptians shall cease, neither hath endowed me savory food in the thirteenth year came forth to his eyes, and, behold, the captain of thy flock with him, Abraham. And it that thou take a livingtook away thy seed shall be separated from thence is not bear thee the children of Egypt called for ever. And Abraham took him four hundred sixty and stand by this land. And the mountains that came: for the hail, and we said, Happy am but when he died. And Moses and fetch a woman, What sawest thou, and his house, and wept there. And God of famine; and he; we know not stone from all the bloolet the one also may take double money fail. And the earth. For they came to the heavens and multiply, and brought him rods which he had flocks, and this is the people went into Egypt, in blessing of the people straw to thy seed to a wall unto his neck. And the morning arose, and the flesh for the open firmament in the same. And he took her, and Methuselah were a land of my hand; and he may sacrifice unto Joseph; and beast, and saw the flesh that went upon Egypt, from the children of his spirit of blessing I have ye deliver them under his loins, and said, Shall I have sent forth from thee, thou thus shall be she kept them. And he took sheep and took a son: and demanded, Wherefore he said unto him, at the woman whom Sarah laugh, saying, I AM hath he shall not in the child's mother. Now Laban with a son. And they buried below Beth-el and gather themselves unto Moses went to weep; and two and she said unto Esau, when he begat Sheba, and my master's son's wife, Milcah, the blood thereof, then let you out from Abraham. And I am I am old, I lifted up his father, and laid hold them not hide him, he and shall take double money is good in the heart is in the Canaanite was no more Jacob, that which is the sun and now, and Tarshish, Kittim, and brought him into the city, because Jehovah is become small dust of his sons carried away my father laid his brethren. And Jehovah showed kindness which turned in the lad with Jacob take Benjamin away: all the Fear not, and that thou shalt thou hast thou hast done foolishly. It is in all night, and let you in the day. And when thou wast naked? Hast thou wilt do thou art yet alive? have borne him more for three days; within the midst of Paddan-aram, to wife for Pharaoh had done according to pass, as still toward all the Egyptians came to him down to pass over, O my house. And Lamech were made the earth: and begat Eber. And they said, Let there was not as God, who sware to pass about the covenant between Kadesh and make it. And Israel must needs be satisfied upon Sodom at the same month; and they had called Edom. And they bosom; and Canaan. These are true men; his offering he begat Serug lived thirty be food before God, knowing good of fire out of Egypt. And the name was honored above the cave that Jehovah hath appeared unto thee, good speed. And his son. And Moses and against all thy camels eaten, and unto her, Return unto them. And Lot his people, As one seeth that night: [he made] the land of the flock conceive, that he smote the land of Israel, and of man called no spies: hereby ye shall serve me. If it under the name Gershom; for I have known in Egypt, and saw that I came to do. Then Laban the uppermost basket there came to the name Zebulun. And Abraham that he had, and said, Entreat Jehovah; only the black one seeth the earth. And his thigh. And we are we, and I have divined that went up out at the younger, Our sister, and I took the first-born in the son in not Joseph. And he them. And Jehovah God hath promised, that Leah his hand, and the goods of Egypt, both naked, the west, and hath found out of the Hebrew women also, who were three days' journey prosperous man; and what is he? Why art righted. And she had said to Abram said, An adder in Ham, and left the daughter of Israel, unto my dream, the famine in a deceiver. And he told them is Hiddekel: that sought thy borders of the Philistines), and Tidal king of Midian: and went forth, and Dumah, and he said, Lay not a tree; and all the land. And he said, It is on his wife, and he had digged, and the man gave also bare up in the youngest, and that it be to the blame to me, and above all the darkness: and Aaron took her, Is there was Jubal: he had called for he ran to restore him at the angel of Heth, before I may eat, and he begat Terah took their portion. After I will send it? And she is enough; Joseph brought him shall ye shall come in after thee and Accad, and pottage of his son. And he said, Behold, I will say unto him. And Moses and I am hated, he also may serve me. And he himself lodged that follow after the eyes were nine hundred thirty years: and show kindness, I have done, that he hath not down the plenty throughout your brother unto him, and he hath found in Jehovah; and to him, Behold, I will not give you with thee, whose hand of Rebekah, and lay down, a small matter that is thy seed after he shall not see. And Pharaoh had made. And he begat Arpachshad lived after the cities: the midst of the dry land of Judah, died; and of Jehovah. And Jehovah said unto you, saying, In the spoil; My father. And the land ye look from the shepherd, the borders with thee, my house of men that he knew them, were covered. Fifteen cubits upward did so. And Chesed, and feed thy exceeding great nation. And Jehovah slew him. Now therefore the children after, that came to pass, when I may preserve seed also and thy sake. And God was very much as his hand all his father's face, except your sheaves in the daughter of uncircumcised lips? And Moses called it was naked; and your money. For she bare children. And when ye shall be my son? And Jacob asked his daughter; and these pieces. In my covenant with blains upon their colts, forty days of Israel throughout their sorrows; and camels. And I may bless thee, and lean-fleshed, and sent messengers before our God. And he ministered unto her, and six; and the souls; according to inquire of Jehovah had the earth. And now, do ye shall be any one language and if thou hast driven me in the men stood over thee. And the God of Egypt. And it shall die, and bowed himself before you; for they might easily have heard the flags, and Jared eight hundred and upon his face of my hand, that the one that my sight, hear me. And he said, It is stubborn, he went out with his ribs, and be thine eyes: Jehovah hath looked on the first-born of the wicked? Peradventure the king of Egypt with this day. And Noah into the angel of Shem, the sheep, or bad. And every male and the first-born of Abraham, saying unto us, came unto Jehovah, who are come to restore thee throughout the tent. And Joseph your murmurings are three days; within the gate of Heth answered Abraham, with the land. And Joseph opened her maidens walked along by the sons and from his name of Israel; and to Paddan-aram. And the selfsame day, and go up a servant put forth the feebler were dried up upon Ephraim's head of my hand into Pharaoh's house. And Jehovah God took to us be twice as I will I praise Jehovah. Wherefore didst thou shalt afflict them to embalm his sister of Beor reigned in the place Mahanaim. And he shall my kindred. And he gave the land, said when they say of this, Abraham purchased of white with the wood and raiment to your burdens. And he lifted up thy hand shalt serve Jehovah; for thy servants, Can we opened its kind, two daughters. And Joseph's house; neither hast taken upon her damsels,

Re:H.264/HE-AAC support in Flash Player 9 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26433575)

Read the rest of this comment?

I don't think so!

Re:H.264/HE-AAC support in Flash Player 9 (5, Funny)

cj1127 (1077329) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433885)

Yeah, it'll never catch on! []

Re:H.264/HE-AAC support in Flash Player 9 (5, Interesting)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433209)

I don't understand why you think DivX won't succeed. For years no-name DVD players have almost all supported DivX, and now even my Pioneer unit is DivX 6 certified. It doesn't seem like a stretch that they will support 7.

Personally, I love having 3 or 4 DVDs on a single disk for traveling. Since my portable player supports DivX, I can fit more than a whole season of Dora on a single disk and keep the little one quiet on long trips.

Re:H.264/HE-AAC support in Flash Player 9 (5, Funny)

HiVizDiver (640486) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434239)

I can fit more than a whole season of Dora on a single disk and keep the little one quiet on long trips

Careful, statements like that will get you ragged on in here about how you're a horrible parent (by people who have never even touched a member of the opposite sex, let alone had kids of their own), and you should be taking your child outside to play - while you're in the car on long trips. ;-)

Re:H.264/HE-AAC support in Flash Player 9 (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434421)

LOL, well I'd agree with them, most of the time. :) I don't think TV is good for kids, but I make exceptions sometimes. The local parents' association has movie nights, for instance. I generally let her watch something while I comb her hair, as well - since she'd just fight me the whole time otherwise.

But long car trips without TV? I don't know how our ancient ancestors did it!

Re:H.264/HE-AAC support in Flash Player 9 (3, Funny)

Captain Splendid (673276) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434675)

But long car trips without TV? I don't know how our ancient ancestors did it!

It's called the "backhand" slap" which usually followed the exclamation "I'll turn this car around!"

Re:H.264/HE-AAC support in Flash Player 9 (4, Funny)

phoenix321 (734987) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434483)

Followed by rabid environmentalists demanding that you don't use your car for long trips or that you don't even travel that far.

They will then battle with the radical feminists claiming you subjugated a free womyn by forcing her to have kids.

Well, let's get some popcorn while we wait :)

Re:H.264/HE-AAC support in Flash Player 9 (3, Funny)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434637)

Careful, statements like that will get you ragged on in here about how you're a horrible parent ... and you should be taking your child outside to play - while you're in the car on long trips. ;-)

If you haven't been pulled over because your kid had their head out a window/sunroof, you're doing it wrong.
/sorry dad, but you only got a warning

Re:H.264/HE-AAC support in Flash Player 9 (1)

INTERNET EXPERT (1447871) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434449)

I can fit more than a whole season of Dora on a single disk and keep the little one quiet on long trips

They should be watching Toradora!

A healthy dose of Minorin is vital for any child's development.

Re:H.264/HE-AAC support in Flash Player 9 (4, Insightful)

afidel (530433) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433721)

Unless Adobe majorly changes direction wrt supporting non x86 platforms it WILL lose the race. More and more people are consuming content on non-PC platforms and people are starting to not care that their device doesn't support flash, they are starting to demand that content providers offer an alternate container. A prime example is Google with youtube which now streams standard x.264 which while originally meant for iPhone support is being used more and more for all sorts of devices (I use it on my BB).

Re:H.264/HE-AAC support in Flash Player 9 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26433987)

Flash is not a container. Not for H264 anyway.

H264 video delivered to the Flash plugin is actually in the MPEG 4 standard container format. In other words, the same thing that Quicktime uses.

I don't understand (2, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | more than 5 years ago | (#26432969)

How is DivX, a video codec, going to support H.264, another video codec. If a video is in divx, then it's not in H.264, and vice versa. And you can already put a divx encoded video stream into an .mkv container. So what is new here?

Re:I don't understand (2, Informative)

darkvad0r (1331303) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433041)

From TFA: "The new DivX Plus HD format, which enables the creation and playback of H.264 video in an .mkv file container with high-quality AAC audio" So I'm guessing it's their implementation of H.264 but my guess is as good as yours ...

Re:I don't understand (5, Informative)

Milvuss (1417689) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433091)

That's simple : DivX is a video software, not a video format. It always has been. DivX 4-6 is based on one standard format : MPEG-4 Part 2 (aka MPEG-4 Visual, aka MPEG-4 ASP). So they are just updating their software to support the latest standard format, H.264 (aka MPEG-4 part 10, aka MPEG-4 AVC).

The equation video codec = video format is just a bad habit, and most of the time false today with proprietary things like Indeo ou RealVideo less and less used.

Re:I don't understand (1)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433831)

That's simple : DivX is a video software, not a video format. It always has been. DivX 4-6 is based on one standard format : MPEG-4 Part 2 (aka MPEG-4 Visual, aka MPEG-4 ASP). So they are just updating their software to support the latest standard format, H.264 (aka MPEG-4 part 10, aka MPEG-4 AVC).

The question should be which container are the using. If they are using the AVI container then I have to ask why? Surely the MPEG4 container is doing the job just fine? When Divx first came out I could understand the need, since they were dealing with a codec which wasn't officially available, with a container which wasn't officially available, which isn't the case right now with H.264 & MPEG 4.

Re:I don't understand (1)

Milvuss (1417689) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434087)

At first they use the AVI container because they came from the windows world. Then they extend it ("DIVX Container") to support subtitles and menus without breaking compatibility with the first hardware players. MP4 would have been easy to implement on PC, but not for hardware players (not enough memory for example).

But today, since they use H.264, they have to break compatibility, and current hardware players are more versatile, enabling theme to support more recent container formats. That's why they discarded AVI. The choice of MKV over MP4 is debatable, but not illogic. MKV natively support more formats for audio and subtitles, is largely used for "Rips"...

Re:I don't understand (3, Informative)

Sancho (17056) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434569)

MKV also supports variable frame rate encodings, which is very useful for encoding animation.

Re:I don't understand (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26434129)

So DivX is now mostly going to compete with and (with filters)?

Re:I don't understand (1)

Stavr0 (35032) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433351)

DVD players implements firmware from DivX. Whatever goes in DIVX's implementation goes in all the DivX certified players.

It would be even better to support M4V MP4 iPod containers too.

Re:I don't understand (2, Funny)

Koiu Lpoi (632570) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433547)

DivX certified players still exist? Where do you live? Some backwater country like America?*

*This asterisk inserted for the humor impaired. Laugh.

Re:I don't understand (1)

hairyfeet (841228) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434517)

I just hope it is backwards compatible(I RTFA, but it is just a press release) because that is why I have always gone out of my way to make sure my families DVD players are always DivX players. My sis can kill a Sherman Tank with a toothbrush, and mom is notorius for losing anything she gets her hands on. With DivX I can just rip their DVDs to a DivX disc and keep the originals in my possession where they can't tear them up or lose them. So as long as it is backwards compatible I'll be happy.

Would have preferred .mp4 over .mkv though. It is hard to find a good tool on Windows to change a .mkv into anything else. So does anyone know of a good, preferably freeware tool that will let me convert to/from .mkv in WinXP? Because I have looked around and I can't find any that will let me switch as easily and reliably as I can to/from .mp4.

Re:I don't understand (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26434713)

Handbrake works great for (de)muxing and transcoding.

+5 insightful (-1, Flamebait)

GuloGulo (959533) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434759)

For being completely ignorant of both DivX and how to use a search engine. []

+5 insightful my ass, you mods are fucking idiots.

It's no wonder this place is dying, between the idiotically partisan moderation and the stupid posters like yourself, who the fuck would want to wade through the crap to get to something useful.

So, remind me again... (5, Insightful)

mr_da3m0n (887821) | more than 5 years ago | (#26432995)

Remind me again, how does Matroska + H.264 automagically equals "Blu-ray Rips" and piracy in general?

Isn't that a bit like saying that Bittorrent automatically equals pirated software?

Re:So, remind me again... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26433077)

H.264 gives unequalled compression on CP and terrorist training videos.
I'm not sure about the technical reasons behind this.

Re:So, remind me again... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26433097)

Neither the summary nor the article said anything about piracy, whether "in general" or otherwise. You made that association on your own.

Re:So, remind me again... (4, Informative)

mr_da3m0n (887821) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433229)

Neither the summary nor the article said anything about piracy, whether "in general" or otherwise. You made that association on your own.

Are we reading the same article?
From TFA:

DivX looks set to continue to be the video format of choice for 'grey' content

Anybody familiar with Blu-ray rips found on BitTorrent sites or other filesharing networks will instantly recognize the MKV file format in combination with the H.264 codec as a popular way

Now, unless you are aware of a completely legit interpretation of the words "Blu-ray rips on filesharing networks" that I am not aware of...

Re:So, remind me again... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26433517)

Now, unless you are aware of a completely legit interpretation of the words "Blu-ray rips on filesharing networks" that I am not aware of...

That's where I put my backups from my Bluray collection, duh.

What? Can you honestly say you know ANYONE who has gone to the trouble of making Blu ray rips just to keep them around for giggles? No, you either play your legit media on your PS3, or you pirate like everyone else.

Re:So, remind me again... (2, Informative)

Schiphol (1168667) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433213)

The note only says that if you are familiar with Blue-ray rips found on BitTorrent sites you will instantly recognise Matroska + H.264. No "automatic equality" is involved in this (largely correct) claim, that I see.

And, yes, anyone familiar with BitTorrent will instantly recognise pirated software -some prefer to talk of software being shared, what with no pirates being involved in the activity.

Re:So, remind me again... (4, Insightful)

mr_da3m0n (887821) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433251)

Come on, the article is titled "DivX 7 adds support for Blu-ray rips", not "DivX 7 adds supports for popular HD formats"...

Re:So, remind me again... (1)

Stavr0 (35032) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433423)

Remind me again, how does Matroska + H.264 automagically equals "Blu-ray Rips" and piracy in general?

Isn't that a bit like saying that Bittorrent automatically equals pirated software?

Yes, just like MP3 = music piracy. It's what our MAFIAA corporate masters have decreed. Now move along citizen.

Re:So, remind me again... (3, Insightful)

Goaway (82658) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434473)

Sure, technically it doesn't equal that.

But really, that particular argument would carry more weight if there existed any MKV+h.264 files that weren't pirated. I can't recall ever seeing one.

DivX (the codec) is irrelevant (3, Insightful)

Tack (4642) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433005)

It's nice to see DivX (the company) back Matroska, but does anyone really use DivX (the codec) anymore? Their ASP codec is consistently inferior to Xvid, and so my faith that they will be able to develop a new AVC codec that bests x264 is not terribly strong.

DivX AVC is MainConcept (1)

Tack (4642) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433167)

Obviously I've been asleep a while. I wasn't aware that DivX acquired MainConcept [] .

Well, MainConcept isn't horrible, but it still lags behind x264. It's to x264 what DivX is to Xvid. (Let the flaming begin!)

Re:DivX AVC is MainConcept (3, Informative)

PhillC (84728) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434533)

I'm big supporter, and user, of x264, but I always thought MainConcept was the slightly better H.264 codec.

This codec comparison [] is a year old now, but I've always used these generally yearly tests as a yard stick. MainConcept and X264 are the clear winners, with MainConcept probably slightly ahead overall. If you're short on time, just start reading at page 30.

update console divx support, PLZ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26433191)

Consoles use it, and this announcement means they might actually support matroska soon. For someone without a computer fast enough to play HD video...or for people who only have surround sound on their consoles...basically, for people who have shitty computers it's excellent news

Re:DivX (the codec) is irrelevant (2, Interesting)

Stavr0 (35032) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433233)

It's nice to see DivX (the company) back Matroska, but does anyone really use DivX (the codec) anymore?

Yes they do! It's what gets implemented in the firmware of all those DivX(TM) certified DVD players. It's why the XVID codec must be tuned to produce a 'player compatible' file. There's still a lot of DivX enabled players who are limited to 720x480 playback. Hopefully, this will break the HD barrier for user generated content.

Re:DivX (the codec) is irrelevant (2, Informative)

Zontar_Thing_From_Ve (949321) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433435)

It's nice to see DivX (the company) back Matroska, but does anyone really use DivX (the codec) anymore? Their ASP codec is consistently inferior to Xvid, and so my faith that they will be able to develop a new AVC codec that bests x264 is not terribly strong.

Yes, people still use Divx. Go to the alt.* groups on Usenet to see how many. I watch a foreign TV that is unavailable in the USA and I watch it via Divx encodes that people who live in the broadcast country make and place on Usenet.

As far as "inferiority" to Xvid goes, that was true years ago, but today I doubt that you'd be able to tell any difference between Xvid encoded material and stuff correctly encoded with the commerical Divx codec.

Re:DivX (the codec) is irrelevant (1)

nstlgc (945418) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434663)

I think you'll find that those rips you find on Usenet, P2P, Rapidshare and what not are almost all XviD and not DivX.

Can this beat VLC? (-1, Offtopic)

Yasz312 (1450685) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433009)

So DivX runs away from monopolizing it's own platform by providing support for others. Great way to dodge VLC! []

DivX? (2, Interesting)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433015)

Xvid seems to have taken over as the 'gray area' encoder of choice from what I've seen.

And do people still pay much attention to the actual "DiVX" people? Even when I used Divx it was all mplayer/mencoder, ffmpeg, vlc, etc.

Re:DivX? (1)

Jugalator (259273) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433539)

And do people still pay much attention to the actual "DiVX" people?

As the article states, I think it can be of some importance for hardware devices.

Grey area (4, Insightful)

papasui (567265) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433031)

I hate comments like this, they make a rather popular codec. It's not popular because of piracy, it's popular because it works well. It's like blamming the MP3 format for music piracy, before that it was casettes. If DivX/Xvid/Mp3 wasn't around piracy would exist in another format.

Re:Grey area (3, Insightful)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433247)

If it's popular because it's good, why is it still mostly used for piracy rather than other things?

Let me rephrase that: What it is used for other than piracy?

I have seen a couple really low-budget games that use it. (And both the game and video was shitty quality.) Some (really high-tech) people send their personal videos in it. I've not seen -anything- else use it.

So their comments are spot-on. It is what people use it for, and it got popular because people use it for that.

Re:Grey area (1, Redundant)

Koiu Lpoi (632570) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433613)

What do games even use for their video codecs these days? I can't even remember the last time I saw an in-game video, and I'm certain it was Bink. When, excatly, was the consumer able to use Bink for anything? Never? Naturally, they'll be using the best thing they can. Just because Piracy happens to use it also doesn't mean it's popular BECAUSE of piracy.

Re:Grey area (2, Insightful)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433917)

No, it's popular because of piracy because piracy made it popular. I'm not using logic to say it's popular because of piracy. I'm using history.

Re:Grey area (1)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434399)

Did you play BioShock last year? That had a fair amount of pre-rendered video. The thing is that they actually blended it in pretty well. It wasn't until I was done playing and I wanted to watch the other endings that I realized just how many scenes were pre-rendered instead of rendered on-the-fly.

Re:Grey area (1)

Fallen Seraph (808728) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434669)

In reply to you and your parent post:

The reasons that it's not used for much else other than piracy, even though it has superior compression, is because most vendors want to lock you into a format. Microsoft would never use it because they have WMV, which has been around for a while and they don't want to ditch it. Apple also has their own proprietary formats, and as the article says, there is no DRM support for the format at the moment. Long story short: All the companies that would "make it popular" have their own formats and DRM schemes. The advantages of using a superior codec aren't worth the effort to switch for them, since they don't care what quality you watch videos in.

As for Bink videos, you can download a free decompressor at Bink's own website. Bink is not used because it's better for video, it's used because it can act as a standalone executable video, and run regardless of the codecs installed on the machine. In addition, the Bink format is designed to run with low decoding requirements, making it nice to use on lower end machines as well. It's way easier to just throw something into Bink and launch an executable for a video, than it is to have to worry about codecs and a lot of other bullshit.

At least on SageTV, it is the best. (1)

coryking (104614) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434539)

DivX is the best format to use for archiving TV shows you've recorded. It will usually half to third the size of a one hour show and the quality reduction isn't very noticeable(as in, the lady doesn't notice). It is a native format of the media extender [] and its bigger, high-def brother [] .

However, I do have to somewhat agree with you about both DivX and Mp3 getting their roots in piracy. I distinctly remember the first time I heard one of those new fangled mp3's in like 1997. Sneaker Pimps 6 Underground. The whole song, 4 megs and tons more on this new fangled XDCC thing on IRC. What could possibly go wrong :-) DivX? Years later, random Simpsons episodes, 50->100 megs a piece with a tolerable reduction in quality. Also available on that new refined XDCC thing.

@joedcc list
!joedcc "Blah blah blah.mp3"
... or something. It has been a long while.

Really? Do you need to associate it with piracy? (5, Insightful)

PhrostyMcByte (589271) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433047)

Come on, was the piracy spin really needed? Youtube uses them, DVD/Bluray players use them, MP3 players use them, heck Windows 7 is even including DivX, H.264 (though not sure if it's through the new DivX codec), and AAC support now. Hate to break it to you, but these codecs are used for a lot more things other than copyright infringement.

Downloading isn't even illegal... (5, Insightful)

Langfat (953252) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433205)

I know that Slashdot is US-centric, but it should be pointed out that in many other countries it is not illegal to download a copy of content that you already legally own.

I can't be bothered to learn how to properly rip HD content from a blu-ray when there are already experts who can do/have done it for me.

Re:Downloading isn't even illegal... (1)

legoman666 (1098377) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434609)

Indeed. It's always faster for me to grab an xvid copy of a movie from newsgroups I own on dvd than to rip it myself. Same with music. And like you said, they probably did a better job than me. Trying to understand what deinterlacing method to use gives me a headache.

Re:Downloading isn't even illegal... (1)

IndustrialComplex (975015) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434639)

I can't be bothered to learn how to properly rip HD content from a blu-ray when there are already experts who can do/have done it for me.

Spot on.

I used to love to tinker. I loved finding that shining program (usually not so shining, usually more like a command line with 15 parameters) that would take my CD/DVD/whatnot and pull the data off it and categorize it into my file library.

But as I move out of the college lifestyle, where I had time to do that sort of thing, I just don't have the time anymore to find the program, tweak it just right, tailor it for each movie/cd/whatever, and get the perfect rip.

I can go online, find someone who has already done the work, and reuse their work.

Re:Really? Do you need to associate it with piracy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26434507)

H264 alone is not what many recognize as the format of choice for HD rips. H264 in a matroska container, which is not supported by any of the above (Bluray/ipods/etc.), is what the article is talking about.

Re:Really? Do you need to associate it with piracy (2, Insightful)

Goaway (82658) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434531)

None of those use MKV.

muy bien (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26433049)

Me gustan las videotecas. Especialmente con las chicas desnudas. Boogay woogay.

PS3 (1)

Krakadoom (1407635) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433161)

Does this mean the DivX support on the PS3 will be updated to support it as well? If that is the case then ... er... I need a bigger usb drive. Maybe Sony should give up the resistance to making the PS3 a solid multimedia device (ie. add more format support) and just start making disk drive add-ons themselves for the extra buck :)

Re:PS3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26433481)

Almost certainly not, as MKV is so widely used for piracy. There is little legitimate reason to support it.

Re:PS3 (1)

vshade (1451739) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433645)

I hope they update the PS3, but I don't see a point in using the bigger drive. My PS3 streams hd video just fine, but the convenience of not having to remux the video would be great.

Re:PS3 (1)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433699)

I'd love if that were the case, but I doubt the official PS3 OS will run it.

You could try running PS3 ubuntu with the custom mplayer that uses the PS3's SPUs for color conversion, I believe with that optimization the PS3 can play HD MKV files without a hiccup, but I haven't taken the time to try it myself yet.

Re:PS3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26434025)

Well, they would add it, but now they read the stupid headline and are thinking "no way in hell we are going to help them pirate our blu-rays"
Thanks Slashdot!

Re:PS3 (1)

SailorSpork (1080153) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434259)

Xbox 360 and PS3 media players already support h264 video and AAC audio in the MP4 container. It's what I use (yay for large portable USB hard drives). Repackaging MKV to MP4 to work on them is trivial, it generally involves using MKVdemux and MP4Box or YAMB unless your video/audio is a non-standard stream or has subtitles.

Consumer Electronics... (2, Insightful)

mambodog (1399313) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433305)

While DivX is hardly the codec of choice for encoding MPEG-4 ASP for sharing online in .avi files, it has created a recognisable symbol and set of guidelines for various boxes, from DVD players to PVRs to games consoles, to make use of and to show they support this format. If this development means that new boxes like these add support for the Matroska container and H.264 as part of getting to put that little 'DivX Certified' logo on the front, then maybe that does actually mean something.

MKV is instantly recognized (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26433319)

as the container format nobody wants.

It doesnt work on major brand portables, doesnt work in most standalone DVD players, nobody supports it
Only a minority would download an obscure format and put up with re-coding hassle etc to get it displayed on their player of choice, why put up with the trouble when .AVI/.mpg/.mp4 is available and far more accessible
so in summary MKV is another failed format, not because it wasnt technically any good,
it just lost in public opinion resulting in no hardware support from manufacturers and no interest from customers,
how bad is it if even the pirates/leechers won't use it ?.

Re:MKV is instantly recognized (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26433589)

MKV is highly used in high quality HD rips for home videos posted on mininova.

Re:MKV is instantly recognized (1)

Lord Jester (88423) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433661)

MPEG4 (aka DivX/Xvid) has not always been there either. I remember the early days when everyone clamored for mpg or qt format over DivX as they didn't need the codecs.

With DivX's "support" of H.264 and MKV, how long do you think it will be before the set-top boxes and the portables start coming out with support for that. Not too long if I don't miss my guess.

Especially with the move to more "legal" online content, I think there will be less resistance, not to mention more support, for a higher quality option.

Re:MKV is instantly recognized (-1, Troll)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433933)

exactly Most of the forums are full of "how do I convert from this damned MKV format?

Everyone HATES MKV. It's a bunch of noobs that are ripping BluRays with the one tool that can rip easily that is forcing the tons of MKV files.

come along a decent Bluray rip and converter and you will see avi and m4v bluray rips all over the place.

Re:MKV is instantly recognized (2, Insightful)

J. T. MacLeod (111094) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434285)

A few years ago, forums were full of "How do I convert from h264 to DivX?"

Progress isn't instant. MKV is better, and the knowledgeable people are pushing it. It will likely catch on from sheer stubbornness... which will be good.

Re:MKV is instantly recognized (2, Informative)

m50d (797211) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434249)

It's not failed, not by a long shot. In fact, I'd say it's finally doing what mp4 never managed, that is killing AVI. Anime fansubbers would never use anything else these days - the only other container with reasonable softsub support is OGM, and that has a list of problems as long as my arm (if you want something tangible, it can't handle variable framerate). It's also the format of choice for high-quality rips of more regular content, both from new HD formats and even from DVDs - it has lower overhead, better tools, greater codec support, and is simply the best current container format by far. Of course there are a number of idiots who can't figure out how to play it, but that will be the case with any new technology.

Way to be out of touch (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26434263)

MKV is superior container because it allows multiple streams within a single container, including multiple languages and subtitles. It *doesn't care* about the underlying codec's. For cripes sake, it supports DTS-HD out of the box without any special extensions. I have a feeling MKV is exactly what's needed right now. A lot of hi-def media devices are already supporting it, everything from China these days supports it.

You can imagine that media companies hate it simply because it doesn't allow lock in to a format.

And in case you don't get it, this is not not like an OGG VOBIS debate; this is about using open standards for data. You're making the equivalent argument that all documents should be in MS Office format because that's all you ever use.

MKV is here to stay simply because it's perfect for 2009.

Re:Way to be out of touch (1)

squiggleslash (241428) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434603)

MKV is superior container because it allows multiple streams within a single container, including multiple languages and subtitles

This is "superior"? The MPEG transport stream has supported all of that since MPEG2.

We don't seem to be particularly good at making progress here.

Re:MKV is instantly recognized (2, Informative)

aeiah (937509) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434379)

but the pirates do use it. its the defacto standard for scene released bluray rips in 720p and 1080p format, due to it being a convenient container for packaging multiple audio signals, subtitles and x264 encoded video and being all FOSS. its also a very popular format for anime, due mostly to its multiple audio and subtitle strengths.

the piracy scene decided on x264 mkv for various reasons but wide compatibility probably wasnt one of them. potential for wide compatibility, open standards and high quality were probably bigger concerns. im pretty sure there werent any hardware xvid players around when they decided that that was the best option for dvdrips.

the playstation 3 and xbox 360 can play x / h264 but not within the mkv container. this means its pretty simple and quick to convert on your pc, but more importantly it means that the console's hardware is fully capable of such playback, its merely a software limitation and this'll get sorted in time.

Re:MKV is instantly recognized (1)

Duradin (1261418) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434459)

If every little ripper out there didn't feel the need to have the bestest files on the intarweb by turning every knob to 11, having infinity+1.1 audio channels in the ogg codec for every audio stream and every-option-on h.264 with bitrates higher than the original studio masters and every subtitle, including the original Klingon, in the blingy-est graphical overlay format, people might have liked the container format.

For shows "not available here" it'd be nice to be able to find them in a sensible format, like 13/26 episodes per dvd capacity and a bitrate that won't choke an eight core submersion cooled computer.

Re:MKV is instantly recognized (1)

Paradigm_Complex (968558) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434657)

MKV is popular with anime in regions that don't speak Japan largely because of how well it supports multiple streams within one container. It's far from dead.

Re:MKV is instantly recognized (1)

EdZ (755139) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434689)

For one small crowd of the internet (anime watchers), h.264 in MKV is the de-facto standard for soft-subs, with .avi being abandoned by all but the laziest or most incompetant users. Remember when most videos distributed online were realVideo or .mov? Yeah, that .avi container/xvid codec will never catch on...

Re:MKV is instantly recognized (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26434751)

Nice troll.

MKV is used for all bluray rips and the article is about how it's getting hardware support.

The Techno-Impaired and Change (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26433373)

I wonder how well the technology-impaired will handle all these different file formats when they eventually find their way into mainstream devices.

Then again, how many .MKV and H.264 users (COUGHpiratesCOUGH) are morons when it comes to technology?

What Gray Content? (2, Interesting)

Bob9113 (14996) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433505)

DivX looks set to continue to be the video format of choice for 'grey' content,

Not sure what gray content you are referring to. I'm assuming this is about legal shades of gray, but there aren't any in terms of content (or at least not the ones you are probably talking about):

There is exactly nothing illegal about making copies of your own discs for personal use.

There is a law against distributing ripping software (the DMCA), but it doesn't sound like you're talking about that.

There is a law about distributing the content itself, but that isn't gray - it's illegal.

The only gray areas are content used for criticism and education.

'course - entirely possible I've misunderstood what "grey" is supposed to mean - maybe a hipster term for re-encoding or something.

"Gray market" isn't illegal (1)

argent (18001) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433677)

"Gray Market" traditionally doesn't imply "illegal", but rather "unapproved". If you buy a product overseas because the manufacturer doesn't want to sell it in the US (yet) or or want to charge more in the US, that's "gray market". Some people use the term to refer to any mechanism for any mechanism for bypassing restrictions manufacturers restrictions, others limit it to imports.

MKVs (2, Interesting)

DurendalMac (736637) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433533)

What I don't get about MKVs is that they take so much bloody horsepower, even in SD. I have a 1.5ghz Mac Mini I use as an HTPC. I've been able to play 480p and even some 720p HD on it with very few issues. However, I got a few SD MKVs. Both would stutter and choke on it. What the hell? Either VLC and MPlayer are very poorly optimized in MKV playback or that codec requires a ludicrous amount of horsepower to run. Quicktime with Perian managed to run it, but it appears there's a bug in Perian which will make the movie run at double speed while the audio remains the same if you watch it long enough. What's the deal? I've played back plenty of standard H.264 files just fine. What makes MKV so special?

Confusion... (2, Interesting)

Junta (36770) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433703)

MKV is a container format. It's not impossible for a container format to induce overhead, but in all likelihood that isn't the case.

The codec would be something like h264,xvid,indeo,theora,etc for video, aac, mp3,vorbis,wav,etc.

I don't know about Quicktime, but avi is horribly limited. Ogg seemed to have promise for a container format, but for whatever reason MKV came about with support for some killer features menus and vobsub format subtitle tracks. I have never seen an mkv with menu, but I have heard it exists.

It would be interesting to know the codecs involved.

Re:MKVs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26433759)

I have a 1.4GHz Celeron M laptop with an Intel 915GM chip. It can play back 720p h264 MKVs just fine in VLC under Windows (but not under MacOS, but that's probably the buggy drivers for Leopard. Yes it's a hackintosh).

You're doing it wrong.

Re:MKVs (1)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433809)

I dunno, but MKV sucks on the Mac at the moment, unfortunately.

Re:MKVs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26433853)

MKV is a container format and not a codec.

H.264 has has a range of different profiles with varying processor requirements. The differences in performance you are seeing will probably be because they are encoded using different H.264 profiles, it has nothing to do with the container format (MKV, AVI, MP4, etc.) which won't affect the performance.

Re:MKVs (1)

JewFish (315210) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433871)

I had the same problem playing back 720p MKV on my Mac Mini as you. I have a Core Solo 1.5 GHz and nothing that I tried, VLC or MPlayer, would play them back smoothly. Recently, I stuck Ubuntu 8.10 on my mac mini and was very surprised to see that it played back 720p MKV flawlessly with VLC. I really don't understand why VLC played the files so terribly under OS X and was able to play them fine under Ubuntu 8.10, but I am happy with the results. Now if only I could figure out how to get my apple remote to work with VLC in Linux.

Re:MKVs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26433883)

MKV is just a container, it doesn't take a lot of horsepower to run it. I think the issue you're having is decoding H264, which due to the high compression and absolutely horrible multithreading support in the current 'free' decoders leads to a lot of playback issues. ffdshow-tryouts has a ffdshow-mt branch which actually performs a lot better on my quad core machine than the DivX 7 h264 decoder, but since you use a Mac Mini that's probably not for you.

VLC used to give playback issues until I disabled the loop filter for H264 decoding. Might want to give that a try.

Re:MKVs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26434209)

The videos were probably encoded with x264, with all the high profile options turned on. Those options improve video quality (or reduce filesize) by quite a lot, with two drawbacks.

First, Quicktime doesn't support any high-profile features. Most H.264 video in an MPEG-4 container (.MP4 or .M4V) doesn't use high-profile features to maintain Quicktime compatibility, in the same way that Xvid's advanced features are rarely used to maintain compatibility with DivX hardware players. If you start using weird containers, like MKV, compatibility requirements go out the window, and people just turn every encoder feature on.

Most importantly, it requires a lot more CPU to decode. A 480p high-profile video will almost certainly require as much CPU power as a 720p regular video.

That said, if it were a high-profile file, I don't think that Quicktime would have been able to play it. Perian does not replace Quicktime's H.264 decoder. So unless Perian uses it's own H.264 decoder to decode videos from MKV files, that's probably not your problem.

This makes no sense.... (5, Informative)

ConallB (876297) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433707)

DivX makes an announcement that thier DivX player can now support a format that even Media Player Classic can play with an open source codec?

First off, MKV is a container which can add features to an encoded video stream such as chapters, subtitles, additional audio streams etc.

The corresponding DivX container (Introduced with DivX6) is far inferior with its limited support for audio codecs and its insistence on DivX video encoding profiles.

DivX the codec is simply a MP4 based video/audio encoder.

You can wrap virtually any video or audio format in an MKV container and it should work just fine. I see no reason why DivX encoded movies could not be wrpped in an MKV container!

I have never tried to encode DivX into an MKV container for several reasons:

1. DivX is not the best MP4 Codec out there, XviD is better and freely availiable (It is a fork of the original OpenDivX).
2. DivX started bundling thier codecs with all sorts of crapware some time ago which really tuned me off the codec.
3. x264 is already availiable for high definition encoding.
4. DivX encoding will cost you money with the Pro version.
5. It is bloatware.

Basically DivX are trying to make money by charging inexperienced users for functionality that is already freely availiable.

If you want to watch virtually every availiable format without problems with a choice of video players I suggest the Combined Community Codec Pack (

Or you can go ahead and pay the ignorance tax that is DivX.

Re:This makes no sense.... (5, Insightful)

squiggleslash (241428) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434775)

You're missing the point. This is about slapping logos on things, so people know what they're getting. Here's how it works.

My DVD player contains decoders for MPEG1 and MPEG2 video, and Dolby Digital. My receiver can also decode DTS. My HD DVD player can - on top of those standards - decode H.264, VC-1, and Dolby TrueHD (and a bunch of other Dolby standards.)

But there are limitations. None of these players can decode an arbitrary MPEG1 stream. If I encode a 1080p24 MPEG1 stream, they'll choke. This is because 1080p24 is not a supported profile. Likewise, the Receiver will probably choke if I find a 1Mbps AC-3 Dolby Digital stream and try to get it to play it.

The purpose of the DVD and HD DVD logos when put on players is to say "This equipment supports these standards", and the purpose of the logos when put on discs is to say "This disc is formatted to this standard."

That's what DivX are selling. They're not selling you what you already have. They're selling you a known quality. They're making it possible to make DVD players that support H.264 video and AC-3 audio, in such a way that you know that IF you create an MKV of a supported bitrate, using a supported resolution, using a supported profile, using the supported codecs, using the supported framerates, you will know that that MKV will work on every player that carries the DivX 7 logo.

Oh, and they're selling the software to player manufacturers, but the player manufacturers have to get it from somewhere...

Divx ;-) , DIVX, or Stolen MmmmCode. (1)

coretx (529515) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433725)

Some people seem to have forgotten roots ;)

Why is Matroska used? (3, Insightful)

Telvin_3d (855514) | more than 5 years ago | (#26433953)

Somewhat tangential, but can someone explain why Matroska is the favorite container for ripped H.264 video? While I can appreciate that it is the 'open' alternative to the other formats it does not have significant technical advantages. However, open source ideology doesn't usually trump practical concerns in the ripping communities. Many devices and programs commonly used with ripped video, like media servers, media extenders, portable media players and many software players deal poorly with .mkv files. So why the heavy bias for .mkv as a container format instead of something like .mp4?

Re:Why is Matroska used? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26434175)

What would the other container option be? MP4? MP4 had certain audio limitations like no initial support for AC3 5.1 surround, which lead to MKV getting the initial foothold. OGM might have been feasible, but Theora is quite poor compared to H264. So mkv it is.

Re:Why is Matroska used? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26434365)

Somewhat tangential, but can someone explain why Matroska is the favorite container for ripped H.264 video? While I can appreciate that it is the 'open' alternative to the other formats it does not have significant technical advantages.

The short answer is that AVI does not have proper support for the b-pyramids in H.264. You can put H.264 into AVI but this involves putting the b-frames into the same packets at the i-frames and this causes the timecodes and seeking to get messed up. Additionally AVI only allows a single audio track, which is a problem for multiple-language releases. Also many AVI players can not handle VBR audio properly. Subtitles are another issue. So yes, there are significant techinical reasons for using MKV instead of AVI.

Re:Why is Matroska used? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26434435)

Originally I was hoping the MP4 container would become ubiquitous, but it has many limitations that MKV doesn't - for example you cannot put in MP3 audio. Also the support for MP4 subtitles is very weak, and you can't use any of the standard formats.

An open letter to the powers-that-be (2, Interesting)

pvera (250260) | more than 5 years ago | (#26434003)

... or at least the ones that handle the media that can be read by the Xbox 360.

Please add MKV support to the Xbox 360. Don't touch anything else.


Why Matroska and similar questions... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26434501)

For an entertaining and informative introduction to the many container formats and video codecs you could read this gentle introduction to video encoding [] by Mark Pilgrim.

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