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A Sony Camera Running Linux

kdawson posted more than 5 years ago | from the answer-is-yes dept.

Hardware Hacking 209

jonr writes "At the recently concluded Consumer Electronics Show, Sony presented the new camera from its Cyber-shot product line. The DSC-G3 comes with a Zeiss lens with 4x zoom, a large 3.5" touch display, and 4GB of internal memory. Most interesting is the camera's software that includes, among other things, face and scene recognition, based on Busybox and Kernel 2.6.11 for the Access Linux Platform. The camera also has built-in Wi-Fi."

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Yeah but, (5, Funny)

ehaggis (879721) | more than 5 years ago | (#26436803)

...Does it run...oh yeah...never mind.

Re:Yeah but, (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437337)

...Does it run...oh yeah...never mind.

Being from Sony, it does run a rootkit.

And don't mod all the rootkit posts down, mod them UP. As a lesson to anyone out there even contemplating embedding malware into their products, Sony needs to pay for their bit of greedy asininity for a LONG time.

Re:Yeah but, (1, Interesting)

MikeDirnt69 (1105185) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438267)

Being from Sony, it does run a rootkit

Proof needed. You can't go generalizing it for every single piece of hardware Sony releases.

Is there any site/blog/whatever dedicated to make a list of these "rootkitted" products/models?

Attention! Remove HARDHACK tag! (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437423)

Whoever tagged this hardhack...
 
Why? A hardhack involves a hardware modification. This is not the case.
 
Typical uninformed slashdot person.

Mod parent up (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437785)

As an experienced engineer, I am going to have to agree (hint).

Re:Yeah but, (5, Informative)

pato101 (851725) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438103)

Nice, that is not the only model which is running Linux. Actually, my own camera (eighteen months old) seems to be running Linux as well:
http://www.sony.net/Products/Linux/Download/DSC-W90.html [sony.net]
Here is a list of their products using Linux, as I understand:
http://www.sony.net/Products/Linux/Download/search.html [sony.net]

First (1, Offtopic)

Bloke down the pub (861787) | more than 5 years ago | (#26436811)

First post thet mentions a rootkit.

But... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26436817)

Will it run *BSD?

Nope, but still... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437451)

Imagine a beowulf cluster of those!

Re:But... (1)

Malevolyn (776946) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438477)

But does it run Windows?

Ok, fine, I'm kidding.

My 5 year old Sony TV came with a GPL notice (4, Informative)

YesIAmAScript (886271) | more than 5 years ago | (#26436823)

For busybox.

So this isn't a new thing for Sony.

There's even a URL at Sony's site for the code (of course). I forget what it was.

Re:My 5 year old Sony TV came with a GPL notice (3, Interesting)

Hairy Heron (1296923) | more than 5 years ago | (#26436903)

Well of course it's not new, they are a well-known supporter and user of Linux.

Re:My 5 year old Sony TV came with a GPL notice (5, Insightful)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 5 years ago | (#26436951)

Shh. Quite. The concept that a company can support Linux and DRM could cause some peoples on Slashdot heads to explode.

Re:My 5 year old Sony TV came with a GPL notice (5, Funny)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 5 years ago | (#26436997)

DRM: because yes, it does run Linux!

Take a picture of copyright material and watch the camera rm -rf itself. No refunds!

Re:My 5 year old Sony TV came with a GPL notice (1)

Godji (957148) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437513)

Not quite. The Sony that makes TVs is not the same company as the one that sells music. They share little more than the name.

Re:My 5 year old Sony TV came with a GPL notice (3, Informative)

poopdeville (841677) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437725)

Not quite. The Sony that makes TVs is not the same company as the one that sells music. They share little more than the name.

Not true. Sony Corp. owns the Sony Group, and has a direct historical and managerial relationship with them.

Re:My 5 year old Sony TV came with a GPL notice (4, Insightful)

idontgno (624372) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438225)

Not true. Sony Corp. owns the Sony Group, and has a direct historical and managerial relationship with them.

Nonetheless:

Right Hand: "Left Hand, WTF are you doing"?

Left Hand: "None of your business."

Re:My 5 year old Sony TV came with a GPL notice (2, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437593)

Not really, the concept of "tivoization" isn't exactly unknown in linux land. People frequently don't like it; but its existence is lost on nobody.

Sony and Linux (2, Interesting)

Rob Y. (110975) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437613)

Interesting that there was an article here just the other day about how Sony has no interest in making or selling Linux laptops or netbooks.

I wonder why not. It's easy to forget that they use Linux in other products and even offer it on the PS3. So why not netbooks? Is it a matter of just avoiding the low-end, low margin segments of the market? It couldn't be any love for Microsoft, could it?

Re:Sony and Linux (1)

prozaker (1261190) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437845)

it's because microsoft doesn't want linux on laptops that could have vista.

Re:Sony and Linux (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26438285)

People expect laptops to behave a particular way. They expect them to act like a windows computer.

No on really picks up a camara or console with a predisposition a particular UI. They don't expect to have IE or a Start Button or whatever. They don't expect it to be able to run software not controlled by sony.

Consumers expect computers to run windows. Consumers don't think of consoles and cameras as computers. It's not really all that hard to see why sony makes the same distinctions that their customers do, even if they are kinda dumb and don't serve anyone's interest other than Microsoft.

Sony's Caring Customers (5, Insightful)

camperdave (969942) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438373)

Sony has no interest in making or selling Linux laptops or netbooks. I wonder why not.

Both cameras and laptops require an operating system. For cameras, nobody cares what it is, as long as the thing takes pictures. As such, Sony has a free hand as to which OS to install. Laptops, are different. Customers care which OS is on their laptop. Customers (like it or not) want Windows on their laptops. If Sony doesn't provide Windows on their laptops, the customers will find another laptop vendor who will.

OS for digital cameras (1)

troll8901 (1397145) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437947)

Just wait till a certain company hears about this! They'll come out with something that runs inside digital cameras.

Oh, wait, the product [wikipedia.org] already exists.

Re:My 5 year old Sony TV came with a GPL notice (1)

Godji (957148) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437577)

I wonder if they have the source code for all the drivers (the kernele modules at least) they use in the thing?

Now if only Linux had been GPLv3, we could actually demand the ability to run our own software on it.

On a lighter note, imagine a Beowulf cluster of Sony point&shoot cameras! Ready..? Now imagine that same Beowulf cluster compiling Gentoo!!! I need to go to the bathroom...

Tech turn-on (1)

troll8901 (1397145) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437773)

... Beowulf cluster of Sony point&shoot cameras! ... Beowulf cluster compiling Gentoo!!! I need to go to the bathroom...

Tech turns me on too. But not like this!

Re:My 5 year old Sony TV came with a GPL notice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26438193)

Now if only Linux had been GPLv3, we could actually demand the ability to run our own software on it.

I assume of course that you're volunteering to re-implement all the GPL-2 code where the copyright holders can't be reached or aren't willing to all their code to be re-licensed.

Year of the Linux camera? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26436831)

better than nothing..

Re:Year of the Linux camera? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437345)

If everyone who buys this camera this year sets it down on top of a desk, it will be the year of Linux on the desktop!

Re:Year of the Linux camera? (3, Interesting)

sdpuppy (898535) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438085)

I can just see what the little kids say now:

"Daddy's camera's got a penguin on the screen when he starts it up!"

Something like that happened a while ago when I got on on of those airplanes with a LCD on the back of each chair - they had to reboot the computer and the screen showed the boot sequence, including penguin. No, no no - this was the entertainment computer.

Re:Year of the Linux camera? (1)

Malevolyn (776946) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438537)

You're still obligated to bypass it and run snort. Just saying.

Price (3, Informative)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 5 years ago | (#26436877)

For those interested but too lazy to click a link:

The DSC-G3 costs about $500 in the U.S.

Lame wifi (1)

nwssa (993577) | more than 5 years ago | (#26436887)

Unlike competitor products from Nikon or Kodak that have their own Wi-Fi functions, the Sony camera works with AT&T hotspots so that external access point software isn't necessary.

Useless outside of U.S. And in the U.S. limited (e.g. connecting to home wifi).

Cool Link (5, Funny)

olddotter (638430) | more than 5 years ago | (#26436897)

In the 90's a friend told me Linux would NEVER be used for embedded devices. Its fun to send him links like this. Fun in a very mischievous way.

Re:Cool Link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437007)

No, he said it would never be used on the DESKTOP, and of course he's still right.

Re:Cool Link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437123)

No, he said it [Linux] would never be used on the DESKTOP, and of course he's still right.

My desktop computer disagrees.

A few million other desktop computers might also have something to say on the matter.

Re:Cool Link (1)

binarylarry (1338699) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437149)

I just asked mine and it said the same thing.

It almost mentioned the Year of the Linux desktop was 2003.

Re:Cool Link (1)

pato101 (851725) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438255)

It almost mentioned the Year of the Linux desktop was 2003.

Heh, I may be synchronized then.

Re:Cool Link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437191)

My Panasonic Viera TV also has a GPL notice on the About menu, and a link for the sources (http://www.am-linux.jp/dl/DTV07U/). You can send your friend this one too.
It's fun to point that out to friends who think they never used linux before.

Re:Cool Link (1)

internetcommie (945194) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437731)

Yeah, in the future computers may weigh no more than 1.5 tons and 640K of memory is enough for anybody...

For the last 9 years I've been doing embedded development; the last 7 years using a Linux desktop. Some of the devices produced by my company ran QNX until a couple years ago, but now it is all Linux. Email and those pesky "business applications" are still operating on Windows though. Rumour even has it the IT department is considering Vista.

Despite a few glimples of sunlight we're still on the dark side...

Re:Cool Link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437941)

Your friend was an idiot. In the 90s I worked for a company that was using Linux in embedded devices.

He was wrong even as he made his prognostication. The fact that he remains wrong is unsurprising.

Re:Cool Link (2, Funny)

qoncept (599709) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437973)

He actually said Linux users would never have any luck IN BED, and would need to use devices to satisfy themselves.

Re:Cool Link (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26438189)

In the 90's a friend told me Linux would NEVER be used for embedded devices. Its fun to send him links like this. Fun in a very mischievous way.

Dude, please stop sending links, OK I GET IT, NOW STOP!

Dad doesn't like it. Will never win the desktop (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26436917)

Doesn't play ogg. Couldn't get the nfs working with dad's laptop and he still seems confused by the sh commands needed to copy files.

And despite my best efforts, he will never understand crontab or the shadow password file.

Re:Dad doesn't like it. Will never win the desktop (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437799)

Luckily, he understands cmd.exe and the SAM hash database perfectly, so he is all set...

Wi-Fi (1)

Thelasko (1196535) | more than 5 years ago | (#26436923)

I recently had some pictures taken at a local photographer's studio. All of the cameras in the studio had Wi-Fi. Once the pictures were taken, we were able to view them in another room immediately.

Re:Wi-Fi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437071)

Im more interested in what the compression options are.

Theres a SD card with built in wifi that will work on any camera, but by the time you upload some uncompressed 8 megapixel pictures your battery on the camera is dead.

Re:Wi-Fi (2, Interesting)

nwssa (993577) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437153)

Yes very convenient (especially for Professional shops where assistant can be doing photoshop or touchup work immediately and ship them off to the magazines/newspapers). Nikon innovated and got the patents for these a few years back.

Re:Wi-Fi (2, Interesting)

msuarezalvarez (667058) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437341)

What does 'innovate' mean in this case?

Re:Wi-Fi (1)

Thalagyrt (851883) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438451)

Canon's pro line of DSLRs have had wireless transmitters available for a while as well, I believe predating Nikon's transmitters. I don't know Nikon's lineup all that well, so I may very well be wrong on that though.

The wireless transmitter sits on the side of the 1D series, and the smaller body (5D, 40D, 50D, etc) transmitters take the place of the battery grip and don't provide extra battery power, same design as Nikon's wireless transmitters. Nikon has a better design on the battery grip though. :p

I can't find any reference to Nikon having a patent on wireless transmission of photos from a camera, so if you could provide a document backing that up it'd be nice.

But can it run Vista? (5, Funny)

gapagos (1264716) | more than 5 years ago | (#26436987)

But can it run Vista?

Re:But can it run Vista? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437159)

Nope. It runs AWAY from Vista...

It doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements (5, Funny)

davidwr (791652) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437409)

It only has 4GB of internal memory.

Re:It doesn't meet minimum hardware requirements (2, Funny)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437637)

Windows 98SE it is, then.

Re:But can it run Vista? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437597)

yes but the drivers for connecting the camera to itself probably wouldn't work

Re:But can it run Vista? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437795)

2009! Year of Vista on Desktop!

Re:But can it run Vista? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26438065)

Nothing can run Vista properly, not even PCs :)

More to the point, (2, Funny)

nobodylocalhost (1343981) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438073)

Can it run crysis?

Re:But can it run Vista? (0, Redundant)

shoegoo (674914) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438111)

or more importantly, can it run Crysis?

Wi-Fi cameras (2, Insightful)

crow (16139) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437069)

Remember the story about Amtrak security forcing someone to delete the photos they had taken? With the preponderance of hot spots and more and more cameras supporting Wi-Fi, this would mean that the concept of deleting photos may soon be an anachronism (and none too soon).

Re:Wi-Fi cameras (1)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437293)

Remember the story about Amtrak security forcing someone to delete the photos they had taken? With the preponderance of hot spots and more and more cameras supporting Wi-Fi, this would mean that the concept of deleting photos may soon be an anachronism (and none too soon).

Is there any reason why you couldn't undelete them afterwards and render it an anachronism without Wi-Fi? Most of those data cards use FAT as I recall and file undelete operations are fairly trivial with that filesystem.

Re:Wi-Fi cameras (1)

corsec67 (627446) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438043)

2 questions:

If taking the picture is illegal, why is the AmTrak police officer forcing the person to destroy the evidence? (This should be coercion and quite illegal)

If taking the picture isn't illegal, why is the police officer coercing the person to destroy their property?

Don't let cops get away with shit they shouldn't be allowed to. (Relevant [krages.com] page by a lawyer with a very nice brochure)

Re:Wi-Fi cameras (1)

jimicus (737525) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437499)

Remember the story about Amtrak security forcing someone to delete the photos they had taken? With the preponderance of hot spots and more and more cameras supporting Wi-Fi, this would mean that the concept of deleting photos may soon be an anachronism (and none too soon).

That's a double edged sword.

"Erm... I can't undelete it, it's already been put on the Internet and stored in three separate geographical locations over which you have no jurisdiction" may work with a security guard or it may wind up escalating the conflict.

Re:Wi-Fi cameras (2, Insightful)

PPH (736903) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437771)

Not really. You just say "Yessir!" and delete the local copy.
If they continue to pressure you, you just say, "Well, I hit the 'Delete' button. What more you you want?"

Re:Wi-Fi cameras (1)

jimicus (737525) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437847)

Bound to be some pillock who won't do that, though. And I'm sure they'll be all over the news when that happens.

(I'm also fairly sure that a lot of organisations will suddenly become a lot more jumpy about cameras)

Re:Wi-Fi cameras (1)

sdpuppy (898535) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438151)

If they continue to pressure you, you just say, "Well, I hit the 'Delete' button. What more you you want?"

OMG- why did I just think of the officer being the Terminator [Arnold] and then he does something rather gross to you while saying "deleted"

Re:Wi-Fi cameras (2, Interesting)

Constantine XVI (880691) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437525)

It gets better. I ran across a service for my Blackberry called Qik that lets you stream video live from the phone, and saves the video to the site straight away.

So, for example, if someone who had a phone with Qik was taping the BART shooting or something equally embarrassing to $powerful_group, even if security forced you to delete the video and took the phone, the video's already out there.

The 'Smart' Camera Revolution (4, Insightful)

Van Cutter Romney (973766) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437079)

The last decade heralded the smart cellphone revolution. Cellphones with more and more features including camera, bluetooth, wireless, PDA yada yada.

I think what we are witnessing here is the beginning of the camera revolution. Smart cameras with wireless capabilities. Soon we shall see direct integration with social networks, ability to communicate over Skype etc. Innovation from the other end of the spectrum.

Re:The 'Smart' Camera Revolution (1)

Kokuyo (549451) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437161)

Wouldn't it be smarter to just merge phones with cameras completely? We have mobiles with cameras in them and cameras the size of mobiles that are now being equipped with wireless networking capabilities.

Seems a small step to me.

Re:The 'Smart' Camera Revolution (2, Informative)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437199)

What we're talking about here is a $500 camera, which is a bit different from the cheap cameras they bundle with phones.

Re:The 'Smart' Camera Revolution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26438071)

"What we're talking about here is a $500 camera..."

That is cheap camera too.

Re:The 'Smart' Camera Revolution (1)

Fluffy Bunnies (1055208) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438233)

For a point & shoot, no it's not.

Re:The 'Smart' Camera Revolution (4, Funny)

sdpuppy (898535) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438187)

[imagine low end DSLR] Problem would be getting the nose-prints off the lens when you answer the camera.

Re:The 'Smart' Camera Revolution (1)

he-sk (103163) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438371)

If you want a crappy camera phone, sure.

Camera phones are a great invention, but the quality of the camera component is really at the low end. These includes better models like the Sony Cybershot series.

You can make beautiful pictures with a phone if you keep its limitations in mind. Personally, my goal is always to make the picture look good on the phone display and not to care about viewing it on the big screen where artifacts and camera shake are more obvious.

But bearing a breakthrough in miniaturization, camera phones will never offer the options that a real camera offers (including the better digital point and shoots), simply due to size constraints in the optics department.

Will it support Linux client access? (5, Insightful)

erroneus (253617) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437141)

I have been watching this happen over and over and over again. Companies developing their products to use Linux but turn around and not support Linux client access. I had stupidly picked up a wireless networked video camera that was known to run Linux on the inside and made a very stupid assumption that Linux client access would therefore be a no-brainer. WRONG! It was Windows only for client access... not even Mac could access it. That was the beginning of the eye-openers for me. It is sad and annoying... they take from the community and then don't give back.

Personally, I just don't buy anything that has the Sony label on it any longer. Not Sony-BMG music, not Sony movies, not Sony games, not Sony cameras, not Sony TVs, not Sony anything else. Sony has burned this customer too many times for me to have any faith in them and so far, I see little changes in their behavior. Their computers are complete crap too, by the way. Sony once had astounding popularity as a name brand, but they have burned more bridges than my own to be sure. I know at least 50% of Japan is anti-Sony. It is amazing that they are still humming along as well as they are.

Re:Will it support Linux client access? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437179)

"I know at least 50% of Japan is anti-Sony." Score 2

Re:Will it support Linux client access? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437425)

Not true. Sony make great broadcast products and a couple of decent "prosumer" things. It's only their consumer stuff that is total shit.

Re:Will it support Linux client access? (1)

Entropius (188861) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438433)

Their new professional DSLR looks like a very solid product.

Their compact cameras are overpriced and underperform compared to the competition.

Re:Will it support Linux client access? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437691)

Sony computers may be crap, but they're one of the only ones that are wall mountable. Not a big deal for a consumer, but for some businesses this is important now that MPC went under.

Re:Will it support Linux client access? (5, Funny)

harlows_monkeys (106428) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438199)

I have been watching this happen over and over and over again. Companies developing their products to use Linux but turn around and not support Linux client access. I had stupidly picked up a wireless networked video camera that was known to run Linux on the inside and made a very stupid assumption that Linux client access would therefore be a no-brainer. WRONG! It was Windows only for client access... not even Mac could access it.

Similar experience here. My computer uses capacitors made by Johanson Dielectrics, so I carefully picked a GPS that also uses capacitors from Johanson Dielectrics, figuring that meant they would work together, but the damned thing would not work with my computer.

Will things like these help Sony? (1)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437143)

I hope developments like these can help SONY. In my opinion, SAMSUNG has of late, been chipping away at SONY's lunch [and market share] for a while now with interesting products on the home entertainment front.

BusinessWeek even ran a story [businessweek.com] for SONY at SAMSUNG.

Where did SONY go wrong?

Re:Will things like these help Sony? (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437239)

Sony got arrogant and assumed what ever they'd make, people would eat up. They felt they didn't have to listen to consumers or live in reality. And I say that as someone with a plethora of Sony products in my house, and a Sony VISA in my wallet. Sony is still a very good company, but they lost sight of what once made them a great company.

Re:Will things like these help Sony? (1)

value_added (719364) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437915)

Sony got arrogant and assumed what ever they'd make, people would eat up.

It's just as true that Samsung got better.

Years ago, I worked at a Korean company (I was the token Caucasian). Samsung for me was just some Korean manufacturer of cheap knock-offs of high quality (a redundant characterisation at the time) Japanese consumer electronics. The company I worked for was making cheap knock-offs of American products so you could say I had a unique perspective on the subject. What was surprising (or not) was that my co-workers preferred Japanese brands, and Sony in particular.

Either way, it was an interesting place to work for a number of reasons. Every Friday the entire company would sit down together for a communal 2-hour lunch. Plenty of fish heads and kimchi, of course, but everything else was first-rate. Hard to imagine that being done in an American corporation.

Re:Will things like these help Sony? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437387)

Where did SONY go wrong?

Right about where they started to CAPITALIZE all the company names.

Re:Will things like these help Sony? (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437895)

I hope developments like these can help SONY

Why in God's name would you hope that?

Where did SONY go wrong?

For me it was when they rooted my computer.

imagine a ... (0, Offtopic)

Beached (52204) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437287)

imagine a beowulf cluster of these things..
oh sorry, should I be saying first post?

So confusing

Re:imagine a ... (1)

troll8901 (1397145) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437877)

no, you should be saying soviet russia.
or overlords.

stuff like that [wikipedia.org] .

I was going to buy a Canon (2, Interesting)

davidwr (791652) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437465)

There are several Canon cameras that allow 3rd-party open-source firmware.

If this can be flashed then it's worth a look-see.

GPS? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437487)

Why not GPS for geotagging? I'd much rater have this than Wi-Fi at a presumably similar cost to manufacturer.

I might be able to...... (1)

allaunjsilverfox2 (882195) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437599)

It might be able to use jffs2 or something similar, that way you have wear leveling for your SD media. I am not a Dev, but that would be a interesting feature. As far as I know exfat, fat 16 and fat32 have no wear leveling capabilities. Since its a fairly expensive purchase I'd assume you wouldn't want your files going poof one day because of SD card dying too quickly from too many rewrites. Just a idea, the other idea would be depending on just how much leeway your allowed, batteries, space constraints not being a issue, and if your have a constant wifi signal, you could have a script constantly upload your new files to a server. Maybe like a really tiny ftp server to upload the files. A great example would be if your out on a job with a wifi signal, have a server at home listen for a specific port and when the camera logs in automaticly check for new files.

Re:I might be able to...... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437819)

SD cards have a controller chip on the card which handles wear-leveling and bad block management

Re:I might be able to...... (1)

allaunjsilverfox2 (882195) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437879)

True, but what would you prefer, hardware leveling plus a file system that wasn't made to do media like this or hardware leveling plus software leveling with specific intent to help extend the medias lifespan?

My Sony Z series TV runs Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437619)

even came with the full GPL license along with the manuals.

snore (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26437687)

wow, linux on a crappy P&S digital camera!!

The low numbered slashdot kooks just blew their loads!

Any good? (1, Flamebait)

Jamie's Nightmare (1410247) | more than 5 years ago | (#26437841)

It runs on Linux? So what else? This doesn't mean it will be a good camera. If my previous experiences with Linux are any indication, it sounds to me like it will be slow as molasses, taking eight full seconds from "power on" to "ready to snap". Arstechnica has a better article [arstechnica.com] with far less fanboy hype.

Re:Any good? (2, Informative)

pato101 (851725) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438401)

My DSC-W90 seems to be running Linux as well(http://www.sony.net/Products/Linux/Download/DSC-W90.html). And from "power on" to "ready to snap" takes about a second.

I have no idea how this works (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26438045)

The specs on the camera from the Sony website say that this camera only captures JPEG. Does anyone think that it would it be possible to change the source code so that it supported RAW capture?

Re:I have no idea how this works (1)

Fluffy Bunnies (1055208) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438391)

Even if it were possible, it would almost certainly take the camera several seconds to process the image.

Hacking for fun (1)

phorm (591458) | more than 5 years ago | (#26438107)

I wonder what image manipulation software (if any) exists on the camera. If it was easily hackable, I could have a lot of fun doing things like a "randomly add elvis/JFK/ghosts in the background" easter-eggs :-)

A Ninnle option exists (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26438559)

...but in order to get this, you must opt for the high end version of the camera.
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