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Coffee Can Reduce the Risk of Alzheimer's

kdawson posted more than 5 years ago | from the more-coffee-please-wait-what dept.

Medicine 242

Amenacier writes "Recent studies by Finnish and Swedish researchers have shown that drinking moderate amounts of coffee can reduce the risk of Alzheimer's disease in people. The reason for this is as yet unknown, although it has been hypothesized that the high levels of antioxidants found in coffee may play a role in preventing dementia and Alzheimer's. Alternatively, some studies have shown that coffee can protect nerves, which may help prevent Alzheimer's. Other studies have shown that coffee may also help to protect against diabetes, another disease which has been shown to have links to Alzheimer's disease. However, researchers warn against drinking too much coffee, as 3 cups or more may cause hallucinations."

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Damn.... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26481895)

Now where did I put that cup of coffee... ?

Re:Damn.... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26481917)

Cracks are visible on the exterior of a settled suburban house in a lower middle-class neighborhood outside of Detroit. During the day, the house is mostly quiet save the occasional noise of babies' cries competing with shrill, high-pitched female voices. At night, the music of a handful of artists known as the "Three T's" - Tupac Shakur, Too Short, and Trick Daddy - blares from the domicile with aging blue-gray paint and bars on all of its windows. It is impossible to see into the house from outside because all of the windows are covered with aluminum foil. One window was broken but promptly taped together with the duct tape in the distinctive tell-tale pattern of brownian motion.

The interior of the house is barren save the sparse arrangement of old, unmatched furniture purchased(or, more likely, stolen) from an inner-city thrift shop; the centerpiece of it all being the stained, chintzy sofa peppered with the burns of marijuana and tobacco cigarettes. The place as a whole appears to be only a temporary living space, yet its inhabitants have lived here consistently for about ten years. The stench of dirty diapers, burned cooking oil, and the by-products of a metabolism so powerful it could fuel the outrunning of gazelles or a successful fistfight against 4 police officers at once permeates the entire home.

It may be mentioned in passing that this house's inhabitants are an assortment of African men, women, and children who live and sleep in intervals diametrically opposite to those of each other so that each inhabitant's productivity is maximized -- everybody in the house has their own role in a setup strikingly similar to the Smurfs' villiage or some other Socialist paradise.

A circular design of red, yellow, and brown was painted on the wall -- "Krylon on drywall" being the medium -- by the teenage male who is but one part of the small collective known as the Ubuntu developers.

The adult males do the brunt of the work. One bedroom of the house, the master bedroom, is the development studio. The whole outfit is the brainchild of Marcus Ubuntu, first-generation African immigrant who studied computer science at the university of Zimbabwe before fleeing the armed rebellion. At his left sit Reggie Omoko, associate programmer; and at his right sit Shawn James, graphic designer(it should be noted here that Shawn is the one who designed and painted the Ubuntu logo, reportedly gleaning Ubuntu's artistic inspiration from the color scheme and the shape of various public toilets).

The 2 women of the house serve as breeders and foragers, collecting the welfare and child support money and then buying copious amounts of food, drink, and dope in support of operations. The children of the house, in turn, support the women, though it is difficult to determine how exactly many children are in the house as they come and go as they please with some leaving permanently, some returning days or even years later.

The primary tools of this trade are an assortment of cutting-edge but stolen laptop and desktop computers. The Ubuntu operating system is coded in object-oriented C, a language Marcus developed at university because he didn't know that somebody had already invented C++. Years of crack and malt liquor-fueled hard work have transformed Ubuntu from a meager startup into the world's most popular open-source operating system.

Re:Damn.... (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 5 years ago | (#26481971)

You put it in the mailbox, Mr. Henderson.

Joke. (5, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 5 years ago | (#26481901)


An old couple both have Alzheimers. They're watching TV and an advert for a burger joint comes on.

"Hey," the man says, "burgers would be great! Could you make some? I'd like lettuce, tomatoes and onions on mine. Don't forget! Lettuce. Tomatoes. Onions."

Wife replies "Lettuce, tomatoes and onions. Got it. Lettuce, tomatoes and onions."

About 2 hours later she comes out of the kitchen and hands him a plate of bacon and eggs. "You idiot," he cries, "you forgot the toast!"

These studies are so full of shit (-1, Troll)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 5 years ago | (#26481909)

I threw coffee on my senile grandfather for years. And all it got me was jail time.

Re:These studies are so full of shit (3, Funny)

trolltalk.com (1108067) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482265)

I threw coffee on my senile grandfather for years. And all it got me was jail time.

Idiot! You're supposed to take it out of the can first.

Sleep (2, Insightful)

conureman (748753) | more than 5 years ago | (#26481911)

Drink moderately and don't forget to rest. I wonder if this correlation is caused by the coffee?

Re:Sleep (2, Funny)

jerep (794296) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482379)

Drink moderately and don't forget to rest.

I can't seem to do both of these, either I drink moderately and fall asleep mid-sentence or I drink to to keep myself awake and spend the night reading slashdot and writing code.

But after yesterday's post about caffeine induced hallucinations I decided to slack off on coffee and now I wonder where all my friends have gone, at least i can still write... zzz

Best news ever! (5, Funny)

bagboy (630125) | more than 5 years ago | (#26481927)

Now I'll be able to remember all of those awesome hallucinations I've been having!

Re:Best news ever! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26482219)

You have to pick and choose! Alzheimer's or hallucinations - you can't have both!

Re:Best news ever! (1)

msoori (614781) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482705)

You have to pick and choose! Alzheimer's or hallucinations - you can't have both!

What if you drink Coffee with the crack and dope? Certainly worth researching ;-)

Remembering Hallucinations (3, Funny)

bossanovalithium (1396323) | more than 5 years ago | (#26481937)

So if I drink 4 cups a day I won't get Alzheimers and I will hallucinate .... good, cause i want to remember the good ones.

They claimed I drank too much coffee.... (-1, Offtopic)

screenbert (253482) | more than 5 years ago | (#26481945)

After I made this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvp8m8CqIDc [youtube.com] , they claimed I drank too much turkish coffee, but I can't remember a thing!

Seriously..... (0)

cbiltcliffe (186293) | more than 5 years ago | (#26481957)

When are these "experts" going to make up their freaking mind?!

Re:Seriously..... (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482003)

Depends if you're talking to the experts paid by the coffee companies or the experts paid by the ... hum... tea companies? (what's the opposite of coffee?)

Re:Seriously..... (1)

Just Some Guy (3352) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482045)

(what's the opposite of coffee?)

(Milk?)

Re:Seriously..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26482085)

Energy Drinks?

Re:Seriously..... (4, Funny)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482157)

(what's the opposite of coffee?)

In terms of competition for arable land, I guess that would be cocaine. Next we'll hear from the Cocaine Importation Agency (CIA) how bad coffee is for you.

Re:Seriously..... (4, Funny)

robthebloke (1308483) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482241)

eeffoc.

Re:Seriously..... (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482403)

I said opposite, not reverse. :)

Re:Seriously..... (5, Funny)

MikeDirnt69 (1105185) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482449)

!coffee

Re:Seriously..... (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482833)

Good luck finding that at the grocery store... "Excuse me, miss, where's the I Can't Believe It's Not Coffee?"

Re:Seriously..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26482999)

Actually it is ~coffee

Re:Seriously..... (1)

Nefarious Wheel (628136) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482919)

(what's the opposite of coffee?)

Alcohol

Re:Seriously..... (1)

easyTree (1042254) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482785)

When are these "experts" going to make up their freaking mind?!

As soon as whoever has paid them to spout-off has profited from the societal behaviour-change they desire?

Re:Seriously..... (5, Insightful)

MoellerPlesset2 (1419023) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482897)

When are these "experts" going to make up their freaking mind?!

It's not for them to say 'coffee is good' or 'coffee is bad'. That's for you to determine.
It's antithetical to scientific thinking to draw conclusions that aren't relevant or supported by the results. It is, however, something journalists love to do for them.

But anyway, are you really unable to fathom the idea that something can be good in some ways and bad in others? And that something can be good under a certain set of circumstances and bad under another?

Besides which, coffee hasn't been shown to be particularly bad for you unless you have a heart condition and need to avoid caffeine for blood-pressure reasons. It also contains some carcinogens - which is one of those sources of journalistic misinterpretation, because there's a big difference between 'contains carcinogens' and 'causes cancer'. Just because something contains a carcinogen doesn't necessarily mean that carcinogen is potent enough and the concentration sufficient to substantially change the risks of cancer, in particular once you take into account how much actually gets taken up into the body.

Sweet! (1)

Datamonstar (845886) | more than 5 years ago | (#26481991)

I'm NEVER getting Alzheimer's!

Re:Sweet! (2, Funny)

jerep (794296) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482407)

Nope, life has something much worse for us caffeine addicted people, parkinson.

Re:Sweet! (2, Insightful)

rwalker429 (1452827) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482829)

Source here? The only correlation between caffeine and parkinson I ever heard about was supposedly preventative.

Re:Sweet! (2, Funny)

Nathrael (1251426) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482717)

Well...once, I thought like that as well. But after some time, I forgot drinking my coffee and...uh, what was I about to say again?

Re:Sweet! (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482875)

Combine these results with the protective effect of cannabis [bbc.co.uk] , and I must be damn near immune.

This reminds me... (2, Insightful)

Kral_Blbec (1201285) | more than 5 years ago | (#26481995)

of the people who claim that "wine" is good for you one glass a day. Fools! Its not the wine, its stuff from the grapes, which mind you are also present in fresh grapes, rasins, and grape juice. Wine gets the props though cause then it makes people feel better about getting drunk every night.

Same here, ya there might be a few healthy tidbits, but the negatives far out weight the health benifits.

Re:This reminds me... (4, Insightful)

trolltalk.com (1108067) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482119)

Actually, you're wrong. ANY alcohol, in moderation, has the same effect.

The flavinoids in grapes are also benefisial, but any alcohol "just works."

Teetotalers die younger than those who consume moderate amounts of alcohol.

Re:This reminds me... (3, Interesting)

zappepcs (820751) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482237)

Which is great for me. They've been telling me for years that I'm overdoing things. meh Drink a few beers, lower stress levels, drink coffee all day at the keyboard, eat only when I'm hungry. Exercise now and then. Stay away from pharmaceuticals. Normal sorts of stuff. Dreams? Hallucinations? Sleep problems? Not me, and I can sleep anywhere. Dreams are good, hate the recursive ones where you dream you woke up, but it's all good.

I knew if I waited long enough there would be a study that showed what I do is not only not bad for me, but in all likelihood good for me. Shame that one study about semen preventing cervical cancer if taken orally was fake!

Re:This reminds me... (3, Insightful)

trolltalk.com (1108067) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482929)

The worst part is that we've had several generations of misinformation about the "evils of drink" because of religious zealots who accepted the backing of the Women's Christian Temperance Union [wikipedia.org] .

We still see their effect today with churches that use grape juice instead of wine for communion:

Although many times the WCTU was very involved in religion in a positive manner, they did not agree that wine should be used in their ceremonies. They asked the Church to stop using wine in their ceremonies during an Episcopal convention, and to use un-fermented grape juice instead. Their direct resolution stated that they wanted the church to use grape juice because wine contained "the narcotic poison, alcohol, which cannot truly represent the blood of Christ."

Re:This reminds me... (0, Offtopic)

zappepcs (820751) | more than 5 years ago | (#26483131)

Sorry, are you talking about those curmudgeons, The Women's Christian Intemperance Union?

There are, in general, a great number of "traditions" that most people take for granted and never question their origin. Those same tempe-rant women celebrate their god's birthday (which in and of itself is awesomely insane) on the wrong day and never question why. It defies explanation that our 'creator' would give us bodies made in his image, replete with with the need to seek pleasures of every kind, then make most everything that feels good a sin. I could go on an on about it all, but it depresses me, and I was just feeling cheery about how I have a case of local brew waiting for 5 p.m. to roll around.

If that made you laugh, now you can cry: WTF are they wanting to drink someone's blood for? Isn't that a bit.. well, odd? I don't care if it has alcohol or not. Play acting like you're taking part in some blood sacrifice is probably illegal if you aren't in some sanctioned building called a church. WTF?

Re:This reminds me... (5, Insightful)

saider (177166) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482473)

The benefits of alcohol depend on which specialist you talk to. A cardiologist might recommend it because the alcohol tends to reduce plaque build up in the arteries. A gastroenterologist will tell you to avoid it because metabolizing alcohol leads to fatty build-up in the liver. The neurologists tell you that it kills your nerve cells.

What this all means depends on your body chemistry. If you come from a family with a history of heart trouble, the alcohol might help keep that under control. Sure you'll get some fat build up in the liver, but your body can cope with that. Someone with a history of degenerative neurological disorders might want to shy away from it.

Most things in medicine are trade-offs and affect people differently.

Re:This reminds me... (1)

trolltalk.com (1108067) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482799)

We now know that the "alcohol kills nerve cells" is wrong in low doses. The "100,000 brain cells per drink" is a myth. As for the fatty buildup in the liver, that's also related only to *over-consumption*, so there's no downside to moderate consumption, and a definite set of benefits.

Re:This reminds me... (1)

ChinggisK (1133009) | more than 5 years ago | (#26483125)

If you come from a family with a history of heart trouble, the alcohol might help keep that under control. Sure you'll get some fat build up in the liver, but your body can cope with that. Someone with a history of degenerative neurological disorders might want to shy away from it.

Great. My paternal grandmother died of MS, and my maternal grandparents both have very serious heart issues. So basically, I'm screwed either way, so I suppose I may as well do whatever I feel like.

Re:This reminds me... (1)

D Ninja (825055) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482887)

Teetotalers die younger than those who consume moderate amounts of alcohol.

...which may have absolutely nothing to do with alcohol.

People who avoid alcohol completely may also be more uptight, more prone to stress, less able to relax, etc, etc. THAT may be why they die earlier and it has nothing to do with the fact that they didn't do shots with their buddies last Friday.

Re:This reminds me... (1)

morgauo (1303341) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482969)

Unless the alcohol consumer is a Malaysian Muslim.

1-1000 2-1000 3-1000.... Can I hit submit yet?

Re:This reminds me... (1)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482125)

Subsequent to the studies that say wine is good for you are some more studies that say the same benefits can be found with moderate use of any type of alcohol.

Re:This reminds me... (1)

wild_quinine (998562) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482177)

Same here, ya there might be a few healthy tidbits, but the negatives far out weight the health benifits.

Actually, that's not true, unless you can point out the negatives of drinking 175ml of red wine per day. Good luck, because they do that and more in countries with some of the highest life expectancies in Europe. The thing about food is that what is good for you is usually good for you in small amounts, but that what is bad for you is NOT usually bad for you in small amounts. All things in moderation, and there are very few of these 'negatives'. That's what they mean by a balanced diet.

Re:This reminds me... (0)

Pascal Sartoretti (454385) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482361)

of the people who claim that "wine" is good for you one glass a day. Fools! Its not the wine, its stuff from the grapes,

Again, a mix of correlation and causality. In fact:

1- People who a drink a lot of wine have a bad health (logical).
2- People who drink just a little wine are in excellent health.
3- People who drink no wine at all have a slightly less optimal health.

The reason for 3) is that this group includes people whose health is not very good, and therefore prevents them from drinking any wine, thus lowering the average health of this group.

Re:This reminds me... (4, Insightful)

sjames (1099) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482367)

If one glass of wine is getting you drunk, you should see a doctor immediately.

Re:This reminds me... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26482461)

...if only to tell him he's your beeeeeestest frieeeeeeend. Hic.

Re:This reminds me... (5, Funny)

ColdWetDog (752185) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482497)

If one glass of wine is getting you drunk, you should see a doctor immediately.

No, you should sober up first.

Re:This reminds me... (1)

KanshuShintai (694567) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482413)

However in a 1998 study, Japanese researchers found that while grape juice still had antioxidative benefits, it did not significantly lower LDL cholesterol levels compared to red wine.

From the Yale-New Haven Hospital website http://www.ynhh.org/online/nutrition/advisor/red_wine.html [ynhh.org]

Re:This reminds me... (1)

lazyforker (957705) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482463)

I know this is /. but did you even read the summary? In both cases, researchers say that MODERATION is the key.

And what "stuff" are you talking about? Sugar? Water? Vitamins? How about giving us some information to back up your claims?

IIRC the alcohol consumption advice was something like "one 5 fluid ounce (150 ml) glass of red wine per day". If you're getting drunk on that then stop drinking.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/alcoholconsumption.html

Re:This reminds me... (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482671)

Therefore....

I need to drink a LOT of coffee during the day, and then switch to wine by late afternoon to counteract the jitteryness, and then finish with a good drunk so I can sleep at night with my system full of stimulant called caffeine?

BRILLIANT! I'll live forever!!!!

Re:This reminds me... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26483091)

Its not the wine, its stuff from the grapes, which mind you are also present in fresh grapes, rasins, and grape juice. Wine gets the props though cause then it makes people feel better about getting drunk every night.

Though "wine" is made from grapes, the benefits of "wine" are not gained from grapes alone. It is the fermentation process that gives "wine" its health benefits.

Re:This reminds me... (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 5 years ago | (#26483151)

One thing Americans always forget. Moderation (not in the terms of judging comments).
Caffeine, Alcohol, Sugar, Carbohydrates, Meat, Fat, Salt, ... Are all good for you with the correct Moderation. Be when we say X is good for you we rush to take as much X as possible as y is good for your y*z must be better.
A glass of wine a day is much different then getting drunk.
A small cup of coffee in the morning helpful to give you that little pickup wont cause your hart to fiburlate
A serving of cookies for a snack will not make you obese...
You get the point, I hope.
 

Hurry! (5, Funny)

Templar (14386) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482015)

Better drink a whole bunch really fast. Next week, researchers will tell us it's bad again.

Re:Hurry! (1)

yttrstein (891553) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482165)

Researchers actually aren't saying much. This is simply another attempt by news media (like Slashdot) to make sense of statistics (which may as well be magic to most people), and twisting them into exciting headlines.

I've had a bit of experience with the marriage of research and media, and it's pretty terrible. Research needs media in order to excite the public so that they in turn get more funding, but they have to excite the public by acquiescing to weak understanding of causality in the minds of the people reporting the results of these sorts of studies.

Re:Hurry! (1)

internerdj (1319281) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482275)

Coffee, it is this year's margarine or butter or black or something.

I drink just 8 cups... (3, Funny)

ShadowXOmega (808299) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482017)

I drink just 8 cups per day and my doctor friend (who is pink and floats in the middle of air dancing) says that is all OK...

Great ./ post for Friday afternoon! (1)

captainpanic (1173915) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482063)

*gets distracted and runs off to the coffeemachine*
Now... what was I doing?

Coffee Cans? (5, Funny)

bughunter (10093) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482093)

coffee can reduce the risk of alzheimer's

coffee can protect nerves

I rtfa but it didn't say how to apply the Coffee Can!

(I save them you know. You never know when a coffee can will come in handy. But I didn't expect this!)

Re:Coffee Cans? (1)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482271)

Well, if it's aluminum, I have a hard time imagining it would help prevent Alzheimer's if you ate it. Alzheimer's patients have higher levels of aluminum in the brain, so lowering aluminum in the diet is probably wise. Perhaps if it was a steel can, eating it would do something. Most people could do with a little more iron in the blood. What's that you say? Whoooooosh? Dammit!

Re:Coffee Cans? (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482459)

I rtfa but it didn't say how to apply the Coffee Can!

To the head. At high velocity.

Ouch!

How about tea then? (1)

mancunian_nick (986362) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482095)

My grandmother died of alzheimer's related incident just after reaching her 100th birthday and just before Christmas. She, like myself, used to enjoy drinking tea - she used to have an occasional coffee with milk but usually tea. I drink tea by the pint mug full and have 2 or 3 whilst I'm at 'work' (part time/voluntary) in a normal mug and then sometimes 4, 5 or more big mugs of tea during the evening/night/morning. I am overweight (fighting hard to shed some lbs!) and have type 2 diabetes but surely tea still has caffeine in it? So should I stop drinking tea and take up coffee to avoid alzheimers in later life? I'm 'only' 55 now (18 in my head! :)) so maybe the sooner I start, the sooner I can 'protect' myself! Then again look how many foodstuffs scientists and governments have told us over the years will kill or maim us or make us infertile or put us in a wheelchair for the rest of our life or some other horrorendous sounding scare tactic yet I'm the type who never listened and carried on regardless and thankfully I'm still here despite continuing to eat beef during the beef crisis or lamb ditto or ... nah, won't bore everyone listing them. I'm sure we all remember only too well. :) So I'll carry on drinking tea until I get fed up with ... or maybe forget and start drinking coffee without realising it ... then maybe I'll start to believe that caffeine doesn't halt Alzheimers catching up with me but then maybe thankfully I won't be aware of it any longer so I'm off to think about something FAR more interesting and thoughtful and constructive! :D

Re:How about tea then? (5, Funny)

mewshi_nya (1394329) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482315)

Dude, I think you may have started on the coffee already...

Re:How about tea then? (1)

SputnikPanic (927985) | more than 5 years ago | (#26483105)

Change the habits that are obviously bad for you -- smoking, for instance (not that you said you smoke) -- but otherwise live your life. That's my general take.

As for Alzheimer's/dementia specifically, I try to stay informed on the topic. My grandfather also indirectly died from Alzheimer's, and my mom was diagnosed with dementia, which is probably Alzheimer's in actuality, at a remarkably early age (mid-fifties). In any case, there are a lot of resources being put into Alzheimer's research, and there appear to be some very promising treatments on the horizon. Should you or I have to worry about Alzheimer's, we'll have the benefit of having far more effective treatments available to us. (I just hope that something comes to market in time for it to be of material benefit to my mother.)

I'm skeptical (0)

tjstork (137384) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482117)

MY grandfather drank coffee every day, and in his last years he got alzheimers. So, I wouldn't go around expecting drinking coffee to make you immune.

Re:I'm skeptical (2, Insightful)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482211)

There's always exceptions to the rule. If 5% of the people who don't drink coffee get it, yet 2% who do drink it don't, then there's a good chance it has some positive effect.

That doesn't change the fact that 2% of the people drinking coffee STILL got it. It's all about reducing the odds.

Re:I'm skeptical (1)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482255)

Minor correction, should read: "yet only 2% who do drink it get it"

Re:I'm skeptical (1)

stuckinarut (891702) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482281)

All that has been shown is that there is a reduced probability that you will get Alzheimers. To make a D&D analogy, say getting alzheimers is a roll of four or more. If you don't drink coffee you have to roll a 20D but if you do drink coffee only roll an 8D. Combining all the other lifestyle factors that can be statistically linked to alzheimers means you're just changing the number of sides your dice has. Some will mean you need more sides and are more likely to get it and sometime less sides so you're less likely. Immunity would be if you could roll a three sided dice!

Re:I'm skeptical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26482429)

OR for immunity, you could ya know, like roll a d4 if your cutpoint is 4+...

Since the D4 is a common dice...:)

nerd pedantry (1)

BitterAndDrunk (799378) | more than 5 years ago | (#26483011)

D3 is actually more common than D4 - any 6 sided die can represent it.

Re:I'm skeptical (1)

Zebano (626335) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482883)

While I find your analogy a cludgy way to explain probability, I realized back in high school that D&D did give me a significantly better understanding of statistics than many of my peers who didn't play.

Re:I'm skeptical (1)

db10 (740174) | more than 5 years ago | (#26483015)

Hey I rolled a nat 20 so you bitches can suck it!

Re:I'm skeptical (1)

Rogan's Heroes (1274232) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482317)

So, I wouldn't go around expecting drinking coffee to make you immune.

That's good cause neither the researchers or the article said you would be.

I'm confused (1)

ubrgeek (679399) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482169)

> Middle-aged people who drank between three and five cups of coffee a day ...

Doesn't that amount fall into the "danger" range for hallucinations? I wonder if there's any relationship between the parts of the brain that would be responsible for hallucinating and the parts that cause Alzheimer's? Also, if coffee can help block damage caused by cholesterol, would meds like Lipitor do the same thing? If it's a matter of antioxidants, wouldn't taking decent amounts of Vitamin C (which has a relatively high toxicity rate) do the same? Or drinking green tea? (And idea how common Alzheimer's is in cultures where tea is a regularly consumed beverage?)

Re:I'm confused (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482587)

Doesn't that amount fall into the "danger" range for hallucinations?

Yes.

I wonder if there's any relationship between the parts of the brain that would be responsible for hallucinating and the parts that cause Alzheimer's?

Yes. Alzheimer's causes dementia.

Also, if coffee can help block damage caused by cholesterol, would meds like Lipitor do the same thing?

Maybe. There is a link between cholesterol levels and Alzheimer's.

If it's a matter of antioxidants, wouldn't taking decent amounts of Vitamin C (which has a relatively high toxicity rate) do the same?

Not really. Vitamin C is water-soluble and it is therefore difficult to maintain decent levels of it in your blood.

Or drinking green tea? (And idea how common Alzheimer's is in cultures where tea is a regularly consumed beverage?)

I think I read somehwere that Alzheimer's was less common in the Far East. OTOH, diets are also very different, so that doesn't mean that green tea helps prevent Alzheimer's. But maybe it does.

Re:I'm confused (1)

Zebano (626335) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482895)

More pertinent (from my point of view) is do the super tasty convenient store cappuccinos have the same benefit?

Re:I'm confused (1)

Locklin (1074657) | more than 5 years ago | (#26483087)

> Middle-aged people who drank between three and five cups of coffee a day ...
  Doesn't that amount fall into the "danger" range for hallucinations? I

Hallucinations from 3-5 cups a day?? Either you are mistaken, or this is all a hallucination... wait, if this is a hallucination, than you never said that... oh, I am so confused.

Uhh...I bet Tea could do the same. (1)

Drakin020 (980931) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482229)

FTA:

The reason for this is as yet unknown, although it has been hypothesized that the high levels of antioxidants found in coffee may play a role in preventing dementia and Alzheimer's.

Yeah, I seem to remember that some forms of Tea is also high in Antioxidants. I'm sure you could switch and not have to suffer the negative side affects from drinking coffee. Maybe that's too simple though....

Re:Uhh...I bet Tea could do the same. (1)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482335)

Wwwwwhhhhaaaattt nneeggaattiivvveeee ssssidddeee eefffffeecttsss?

Re:Uhh...I bet Tea could do the same. (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482619)

I know you probably meant that to be like jittering while trying to type on the keyboard, but I imagined someone falling off a tall building, stuck in a deep well, or a cave.

Re:Uhh...I bet Tea could do the same. (2, Insightful)

Klaus_1250 (987230) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482381)

.. some forms of Tea is also high in Antioxidants.

Green Tea and White Tea, but I think the term bio-active components is more in place. Concentrations are dependent on the quality of tea as well and how it is prepared. Same goes for coffee.

speaking as someone who's experienced brain injury (3, Interesting)

haaz (3346) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482267)

I would much rather have hallucinations than worsening memory loss. Hell, having to re-learn five times in a row that my mother has died was bad enough...

Dear Slashdot: +1, Informative (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26482305)

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Maybe it's the hallucinations. (1)

JonahsDad (1332091) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482339)

Maybe it isn't the coffee that prevents Alzheimer's. Maybe it's the hallucinations. I suggest a new study involving coffee and other hallucinogens.

I have to point out... (4, Funny)

LoyalOpposition (168041) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482411)

However, researchers warn against drinking too much coffee, as 3 cups or more may cause hallucinations.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

-Loyal

only 3 cups? (1)

tabby (592506) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482439)

Then I should be seeing unicorns & emerald fairies by midday

Phew! That Would Explain It Then.... (2, Funny)

pandrijeczko (588093) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482479)

...a few months ago, after a particularly heavy coffee session, a video popped up on my PC screen that had some big fat sweaty bald bloke dancing across a big stage shouting "Developers" over and over again... and it was ALL the fault of that Java Sumatran blend...

Oh wait...

Reduces the risk by... (0)

ArhcAngel (247594) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482503)

It reduces the risk of Alzheimer by shortening your life span. You can't get the disease if you die before it has a chance to set in.

My dad went to a nutritionist and had a complete profile done. On his followup visit to the nutritionist's office the nutritionist told him that he wanted him to not even worry about curbing his 2 pack a day smoking habit. What he wanted him to do was stop drinking coffee. (my dad had an old tall orange Tupperware cup that had coffee in it all day long) I think it helped him for the short time he cut out the coffee but it proved to be a stronger addiction than smoking which he was able to quit. He still died of emphysema though.

Gout too (1)

macemoneta (154740) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482559)

It's also been found effective against gout [eurekalert.org] .

I guess (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26482603)

I am incredibly not going to suffer from Alzheimer's. That's great news! Wait, what's great news?

I submitted too late (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482711)

But I wonder why "the age" was listed in this submission? I linked the AFP story from Yahoo news. There are a raft of newspapers to choiose this story from [google.com] .

I guess the submitter was an Australian. But in any case, this study and the newspaper stories about it seem far above the "coffee makes you hallucinate". Hallucination is a sign of schitzophrenia.

A survey of one (me) backs up the anti-dementia study. I joke about forgetfulness, but I'm actually sharper than I was when I was young and drank less coffee. Sometimes correlation not only does not imply causation, it doesn't even always imply a link. I started drinking a lot of coffee as a cigarette substitute, and I think the niccotine had an adverse effect on my mental acuity.

Re:I submitted too late (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26483027)

Actually hallucinations are a *possible* symptom of schizophrenia. There are a multitude of other reasons for hallucinations to occur.

Green tea (2, Funny)

blind biker (1066130) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482743)

If cofee can do it, green tea probably can do it better with fewer side effects.

Time to sip another cup of green tea...

What's with the tags? (1)

TiberSeptm (889423) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482749)

Aids and superaids? They're showing up as the top two tags, so is the implication that coffee prevents aids or causes superaids?

Coffee (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26482907)

If it protects my nerves, why do I keep getting repeatedly bothered by my dumb boss or colleagues?

What about those of us with low tolerance. (1)

dmacleod808 (729707) | more than 5 years ago | (#26482981)

I cannot drink coffee or I get incredibly manic. I wonder if there is some kind of product that will give the same benefit without the caffiene (does this apply to decaf?)

Can't get a decent cup of coffee anymore... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26483061)

I wouldn't mind drinking coffee, except that it's impossible to get a decent cup of the stuff anymore. Everybody is selling the same overbrewed, overroasted crap that Starbucks pushes, even McFreakinDonalds. I want a plain old cup of joe, like we had back in the day-- served by a chain-smoking waitress in an apron, not a teenage "barista" who can't be bothered to put down her cell phone while she serves me. (BTW, isn't a barista the post holding up the railing on my stairs?) Oh, and GTFOML.

Ah, the antioxidant hypothesis (1)

drunkenoafoffofb3ta (1262668) | more than 5 years ago | (#26483073)

Although it's an easily understandable mechanism of action, and promoted by sellers of overpriced health foods, e.g. PomeGREAT! Juice...

I thought that the antioxidant hypothesis had pretty much been debunked. If you have a functioning pancreas and liver, you don't need to supplement what's in your diet.

And coffee doubling your chances if you drink more than 3 cups per day? I think the bad stats of the Relative Risk Increase is at work here. Let me see. Very very very low risk of something happening * 2 = still a very very very low risk of something happening.

One of many. Others are... (4, Funny)

sgt scrub (869860) | more than 5 years ago | (#26483149)

Hard drugs.
Hard liquor.
Smoking.
Jumping off tall buildings.
Stepping out in front of a bus.

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