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US CTO Choice Down To a Two-Horse Race

CmdrTaco posted more than 5 years ago | from the i-swear-i'm-qualified dept.

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theodp writes "Barack Obama apparently didn't return CmdrTaco's call. BusinessWeek reports that the choices for the first US CTO have narrowed, and it's now a two-horse race between Padmasree Warrior, Cisco's CTO, and Vivek Kundra, who holds the same title for the Government of the District of Columbia. Two very different resumes — which would you advise Obama to pick?" I just know I was #3 on the list.

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Cisco vs. Wash DC? (5, Funny)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517241)

Well, Cisco sucks. And the government of D.C. sucks. So if I had to choose, I'd go by whoever was wearing the longest tie last time I met them.

Re:Cisco vs. Wash DC? (5, Insightful)

fm6 (162816) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517445)

Right, the government sucks, so by no means should you consider working for the government, even if the point of the particular job they're offering you is to make the government less sucky. I guess the suckiness of government is somebody else's problem.

You know, your attitude sucks.

Re:Cisco vs. Wash DC? (3, Interesting)

Captain Splendid (673276) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517489)

Mod parent up. Never understood this particular American obsession with tearing down the government and then proudly claiming it sucks. Sounds insane to me.

Re:Cisco vs. Wash DC? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26517597)

CmdrTaco is actually #2. That's #2 as in "I'm going to take a #2". See, CmdrTaco loves eating shit. Most fags put up with occasional clump while they're going ass-to-mouth with their boyfriend (or dude they just met at the airport bathroom, as the case may be). But CmdrTaco? He's all about the shit. If you ever meet up with him, don't be surprised to find him violently sucking on your asshole and begging you to release some of that brown goodness into his eager mouth.

Re:Cisco vs. Wash DC? (3, Funny)

mark72005 (1233572) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517997)

haha. I love how an explanation of CmdrTaco's preferences is not trollish, but rather, offtopic.

Re:Cisco vs. Wash DC? (5, Insightful)

rufus t firefly (35399) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517639)

Mod parent up. Never understood this particular American obsession with tearing down the government and then proudly claiming it sucks. Sounds insane to me.

Blame Ronnie Raygun. He popularized the idea that "government is the problem" [reaganlibrary.com] , while blowing enormous quantities of money on militarization, possibly in hopes of bankrupting the federal government [thenation.com] . Never trust someone to run something when they believe it's a stupid idea to begin with, they'll usually just mess it up [nytimes.com] .

Re:Cisco vs. Wash DC? (4, Informative)

filthpickle (1199927) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517899)

I think the phrase "close enough for government work" predates Ronnie "50 megatons hurts bad" Raygun. Which suggests to me that he didn't inspire the feeling.

an interesting aside to this aside...I googled that phrase to see when it first started to be used. There seems to be some sentiment that it used to mean 'work of the highest quality' but got changed to mean shoddy work somewhere along the way. Either way, it's had the negative connotation since at least the '60's.

Re:Cisco vs. Wash DC? (4, Informative)

FireStormZ (1315639) | more than 5 years ago | (#26518103)

"Blame Ronnie Raygun"

Oh lol, how original...

"He popularized the idea that "government is the problem"

Actually that idea was popularized by the founding fathers who knew that Government sucked so bad that it needed a leash (B.O.R) and that the 10th was needed to keep the federal government in its place. Having lived in two very Different states (NY and Minnesota) I can tell you tat some government suck less (Minnesota) than others (NY) but given the fact the states are to be laboratories of democracy the federal government almost always sucks.

"militarization, possibly in hopes of bankrupting the federal government."

Horse manure, link or not its still horse manure. RR was trying to bankrupt the Soviet government not the US government something he successfully did.

Re:Cisco vs. Wash DC? (5, Informative)

Roxton (73137) | more than 5 years ago | (#26518217)

"He popularized the idea that "government is the problem"

Actually that idea was popularized by the founding fathers who knew that Government sucked so bad that it needed a leash

Uh-huh. You do realize that one of the first actions of our founding fathers was to buy up state debt to establish national credit, right?

Re:Cisco vs. Wash DC? (2, Interesting)

FireStormZ (1315639) | more than 5 years ago | (#26518253)

"Uh-huh. You do realize that one of the first actions of our founding fathers was to buy up state debt to establish national credit, right?"

And what was done with that credit... oh yea they were building up a national defense...

Re:Cisco vs. Wash DC? (5, Informative)

KeithJM (1024071) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517817)

Well, Cisco sucks. And the government of D.C. sucks.

Right, the government sucks, so by no means should you consider working for the government

I won't defend the guy's attitude, but if you RTFS (S = summary), one of the candidates worked for the Government of DC. So he wasn't saying "All governments suck so I wouldn't work for one," he was saying "the DC government sucks so I wouldn't promote one of their C?Os."

Re:Cisco vs. Wash DC? (4, Funny)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517931)

The problem is that replacing one person, even at the top, never seems to mitigate the suckiness.

The suck is spread wide and deeply entrenched, which is not nearly as fun as it sounds.

Vivek? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26517447)

Probably someone I have seen on forums asking for advice... Sounds somehow familiar ;)

Re:Vivek? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26517875)

ever play Morrowind?

Re:Cisco vs. Wash DC? (3, Funny)

mark72005 (1233572) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517971)

Quit worrying people. Tomorrow at the stroke of noon, all our problems end. Everyone will love everyone. Our savior will fix the economy with a wave of his hand. The gubment will start paying my mortgage. All conflicts around the world will cease. Mini-golf scores will be way down. Bowling scores will be way up. And we'll have the most excellent waterslides of any civilization we communicate with.

I vote other (1, Insightful)

wardk (3037) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517273)

No Cisco, no gov't hack.

we need credible change

Re:I vote other (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26517399)

You think Obama is going to bring about change? How's 4 more years of Clinton/Kennedy for you?

Re:I vote other (1)

msuarezalvarez (667058) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517567)

After 8 (eight!) years of Bush, 4 years of Clinton does not sound that bad, really. Can you possibly argue otherwise?

Re:I vote other (2, Insightful)

profplump (309017) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517775)

It sounds better I agree. But so does spending the next 4 years with my left leg in a cast.

I'm not saying Obama will be terrible, but it's not really a challenge to be better than Bush, so if that's your only hope for the next decade I'd suggest you consider raising the bar.

Re:I vote other (1)

msuarezalvarez (667058) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517947)

I never said it was my only hope. I was responding to the standard slashdot "You think Obama is going to bring about change?"...

Re:I vote other (2, Informative)

megamerican (1073936) | more than 5 years ago | (#26518051)

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates who helped create Al-Qaeda while under Zbigniew Brzezinski [wikipedia.org] in Carter's Administration. He was very much involved in the Iran-Contra [wikipedia.org] affair. This was enough to stop him from being DCI in 1991, but now it's perfectly fine.

Attorney General Eric holder wrote a brief to the SCOTUS on the DC gun ban and said that there is no individual right to own gun. He was apart of the Clinton Administrations Justice Department when Clinton pardoned [go.com] all of his cocaine trafficking [usdoj.gov] buddies.

Rahm Emanuel is crazy [rollingstone.com] , a duel citizen of Israel and the U.S. and while in charge of who to give money to in the 2006 election cycle decided to acitvely shun anti-war candidates.

That's just a start.

Re:I vote other (1)

msuarezalvarez (667058) | more than 5 years ago | (#26518225)

You can probably give many more examples...

That does not do much to support the claim that Bush's 8 years and the next 4 will be exactly the same.

How about... (5, Funny)

Improv (2467) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517309)

The Iraqi Information Minister? He'd at least be entertaining..

Re:How about... (5, Funny)

mikkelm (1000451) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517757)

There's no Iraqi information minister here. There are no Iraqi information ministers within a hundred miles of this post.

Re:How about... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26518249)

The other CTO candidates are killing themselves on the front steps of the Capitol building...

Re:How about... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26517847)

There are no viruses on government computers and I don't know why they are infected.

Spammers are shaking in their boots and everyone should receive v1agr4 ads as as proof of it.

We will fight 'til the end and stop hackers at the gate arrays, if necessary.

Why Not OffShore It? (3, Funny)

Black-Man (198831) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517313)

Can't they off shore this position to Pune? What better choice for corrupt politicians than to choose Satyam? Sounds like a match made in... whatever.

Cisco Guvmint (3, Insightful)

Ardipithecus (985280) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517327)

Didn't know either existed.

On the basis that Cisco functions and makes money, while DC is a disaster, Cisco_guy++.

Re:Cisco Guvmint (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26517501)

On the basis that Cisco functions and makes money, while DC is a disaster, Cisco_guy++.

Have you ever worked with Cisco? I have and it was a nightmare. They are a horribly inefficient bureaucracy that makes money by leveraging their existing client base and giving purchasers all the hookers and blow they need to get them to sign. They owned 10% of a company I worked for, then decided to buy one of our failed competitors and try to compete against us. Said competitor failed for a reason, so when that flopped they tried to strong arm us into canceling our product in that market. When that failed they spent millions more to buy two more firms we had driven out of business because their products were so much worse than ours.

Their main problem is that they can make okay hardware, but they suck at software and they really, really, really suck at user interfaces and integration of products. Their corporate ethics are in the toilet with their standing layoffs policy and they're more than happy to push crappy solutions on all their "partners" and big customers while forgetting to mention that they won't touch the same solution with a ten foot pole for use on their own network.

So yeah they're terrible, which is still probably not as bad as Washington DC.

Re:Cisco Guvmint (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26517711)

Have you ever worked with Cisco? I have... They... [give] purchasers all the hookers and blow they need to get them to sign.

You are complaining... Were you the hooker, or the blow?

Re:Cisco Guvmint (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26517803)

Have you ever worked with Cisco? I have... They... [give] purchasers all the hookers and blow they need to get them to sign.

You are complaining... Were you the hooker, or the blow?

He's the guy who had to blow the hooker.

Re:Cisco Guvmint (5, Interesting)

Valdrax (32670) | more than 5 years ago | (#26518085)

So yeah they're terrible, which is still probably not as bad as Washington DC.

I'd like to point out that the guy from Washington DC also has private sector experience if you're worried about icky public sector cooties getting all over your new public sector employee. He's also very big on open and transparent government. His resume's a bit light to figure out how good he'll be, but he's probably got a huge leg-up on working with people in Washington.

The lady from Cisco, however, managed a doomed subsidiary of Motorola based on an uneconomical GaAs-on-Si technology before eventually presiding as CTO over the continued slow decline of a company that hasn't had an exciting product since the RAZR years ago before moving on to fill a position at Cisco which had been vacant for two years. While she does want to see more funding for fundamental research and development (not surprising given her fabrication background), the association with Motorola and Cisco does not scream the best and brightest of the private sector to me. Given her academic credentials, she's probably very brilliant, but I don't see how that's translated into success for her companies.

Re:Cisco Guvmint (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26518215)

"and they really, really, really suck at user interfaces and integration of products"

No kidding! Have you seen the user interface for the 3000-series VPN Concentrators? It is horrid!

Doesn't matter (5, Insightful)

MikeRT (947531) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517339)

Either way, the position is going to be mostly a figurehead. Unless Obama delegates some serious executive power over the federal bureaucracy, this will just be a cushy job for the next several years.

The CTO needs to be able to override agency decisions, put mandates on them and punish them for non-compliance. I seriously doubt that Obama is going to go that far. One of the first ones should be to stop the Oracle lovefest, and make it federal policy to stop using Oracle on most federal systems that have less than a few hundred users.

Re:Doesn't matter (3, Insightful)

fm6 (162816) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517483)

Unless Obama delegates some serious executive power over the federal bureaucracy, this will just be a cushy job for the next several years.

I completely agree. But, at the risk of suffering a crisis of cynicism, perhaps you could explain why you're so certain that Obama won't delegate serious power to this position?

Re:Doesn't matter (1)

teaDrunk (849107) | more than 5 years ago | (#26518017)

If the position is just a figurehead and to do inane jargon spouting, CTO candidate 1 has it covered. probably same with the CTO candidate 2 too !
Obama may as well not delegate too much.

Re:Doesn't matter (-1, Offtopic)

should_be_linear (779431) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517527)

Well, when I see scenes from Gaza strip on TV, no wander CTO will be figurehead - I mean, lets face it, who cares about CTO. If Obama is able to bring peace there, I would swalow Darl McBride as CTO, FFS.

Re:Doesn't matter (0, Offtopic)

swillden (191260) | more than 5 years ago | (#26518065)

If Obama is able to bring peace there, I would swalow Darl McBride as CTO, FFS.

Well, since Obama will not be able to bring peace there, it's reasonable to debate the CTO choice.

You're an example of what's wrong in the ME (0, Flamebait)

MikeRT (947531) | more than 5 years ago | (#26518183)

If Obama is able to bring peace there, I would swalow Darl McBride as CTO, FFS.

Excuse me, but what the fuck does Israel and Palestine have to do with that region in general, and the world at large? Both the now defunct (thanks, Hamas!) Palestinian Authority and Israel occupy territory about the size of New Jersey. Do you have any idea how ludicrous it is to argue that such a small conflict, on such a small piece of dirt can cause global problems?

The only reason the Muslims in the Middle East generally care about the Palestinians is catharsis and redirection. The conflict allows them to avoid facing the fact that they are ruled by tyrannical, petty regimes, have accomplished nothing since they finally consumed the last cultural legacies of the Persian Empire (where do you think Islam's golden age came from...) and that with their oil wealth, they should have quickly beaten then Asian Tigers to global prominence as cultures.

You want peace in the Middle East? Then ignore both sides, and laugh at the next Muslim who tells you that Israel is destabilizing the region. Israel is no more destabilizing the region than Finland was a major thorn in anyone's side in World War II.

Re:Doesn't matter (1)

erroneus (253617) | more than 5 years ago | (#26518223)

He will delegate some power to the post, but only until that position butts heads with a heavy contributor and then that position will be rendered useless. The very moment that person attempts to care about the open format of public records or any other such thing, you will see Adobe and Microsoft trying to get him fired. We saw it in Massachusetts and I don't see it going down any differently in Washington.

Answer is obvious? (3, Insightful)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517343)

If I had to choose between the two, which apparently I would (not that my decision makes ANY difference whatsoever), I'd have to go with the dude from Cisco. He at least has his roots, however good they may be, in a business and not a "cushy government job."

Re:Answer is obvious? (2, Insightful)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517409)

Yea but he will make those federal employees actually work hard. They already think they are working hard, But when a guy from the private sector comes in. They run straight to the union... vs. actually just doing the work.

Re:Answer is obvious? (5, Informative)

stoolpigeon (454276) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517415)

the dude from cisco is a woman.

Re:Answer is obvious? (4, Funny)

JoeWalsh (32530) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517555)

Dude, that's totally bogus. Chicks can't be warriors.

So What? (1)

stoolpigeon (454276) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517707)

You may ask, "So What?", she's a woman. And I'd have to agree. I've learned here at slashdot that you can't argue with a sick mind. But seriously folks, this is a government position that we have payed for. Shouldn't this be a case of 'you bought it, you name it'? And if so, I'm voting for an ordinary average guy instead of one of these hotshots. We keep letting these elite types run the show and there goes the neighborhood. It's not like we can fix it all by getting in a circle and singing kumbaya. These are dark times more fitting of songs for a dying planet. That's the inconvenient truth. All this typing has made my mouth dry. Got any gum? I hate having dry mouth before I head over to the church to talk to the confessor.

Re:So What? (1)

jomegat (706411) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517921)

That worked out pretty well with Mike Brown, didn't it? At least the Senate had sense to ixnay Harriet Myers.

Re:Answer is obvious? (1)

sm8000 (780163) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517983)

Even if she's shooting at the walls of heartache? Bang-bang! Maybe we should just write-in Carly Fiorina.

not sure if that's better or worse (1)

Trepidity (597) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517443)

As with much procurement, one of the big problems with IT in government is that it's more geared towards the profit needs of the contractors than towards the actual IT needs of the government---it buys what companies want to sell it.

It seems like a Cisco guy is pretty unlikely to put an end to that, since Cisco has a nice gravy train [cisco.com] . Though I guess it's better than an Oracle guy.

Ungrateful twat (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26517455)

You leeches, you scrimp on your taxes, never thank the government, and then have the gall to tar all public servents - people who spend their best years serving YOU - with the same, tired accusations. Tell me, how to you square the 'public service = cushy' claim with the 'US = most powerful country' circle? Do you think the infrastructure, social safety net, military, judiciary, etc., all just run on automatic?

Re:Ungrateful twat (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26517573)

You dumb.

Re:Answer is obvious? (4, Informative)

Martin Blank (154261) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517467)

Padmasree Warrior is a woman.

Still, I don't trust most people from Cisco any further than I can throw a 6509. A few exceptions aside, their best people seem to leave to form other, more interesting (and ethical) companies. I know that sales people in general are not to be trusted, but Cisco reps seem to have carved their own special niche on that point.

Re:Answer is obvious? (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26517565)

The "dude from Cisco" is a woman. But she's not really "from" Cisco, she came there in the past year from Motorola. And my impression is that she didn't do that great a job at Motorola, and I haven't really heard anything worthwhile out of her while she's been at Cisco. So, I'd go with the other dude.

Re:Answer is obvious? (5, Insightful)

ecn5093 (948788) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517759)

Obviously you have done zero research into these two candidates. To begin with the "dude from Cisco" is a female who used to be CTO for Motorola. Let's take a look at how well Motorola had been doing under her "direction". They are still feeling the ill effects of that. While I know nothing about Vivek, I do know that I would not want someone who has run a historically innovative company like Motorola into the ground!

Stimulate the economy! (3, Interesting)

GaryOlson (737642) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517351)

SMARTnet contracts in perpetuity for everyone provided by the US Government!

Does not matter who is chosen: the industry guy will tire of the endless petty bureaucrats and quit in 18 months. Then we get the government lacky anyway; and, we get free technology for everyone.

is this the best they can do? (5, Informative)

Dan667 (564390) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517359)

seriously? I worked at Motorola when Padmasree was there and I have seen more tech success in that period watching my lawn grow.

Re:is this the best they can do? (5, Informative)

CE@UIC (14343) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517795)

I'll second that. I also worked for Moto during that time also and the only impressive thing that came out of the office of the CTO was the lack of innovation coming out of the office.
The CTO of the country doesn't need to be someone with an impressive resume who's never actually done anything or created anything substantial, it needs to be someone who has actual experience innovating and growing innovation.

Re:is this the best they can do? (-1, Troll)

daemonenwind (178848) | more than 5 years ago | (#26518261)

The CTO of the country doesn't need to be someone with an impressive resume who's never actually done anything or created anything substantial, it needs to be someone who has actual experience innovating and growing innovation.

Why?

That doesn't line up with our choice for President at all.

It seems to me that we should be asking for a Federal CTO with big ideas and virtually no experience. What's Jon Katz up to, these days?

Sen. Stevens (2, Funny)

lbmouse (473316) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517365)

What?!? Ted Stevens wasn't available?

We need someone in there that understand that the internets are not like a big truck but rather a series of tubes.

Re:Sen. Stevens (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26517485)

stale. the man's not even in office anymore. seriously, can't we move on? or are you one of those morons who is still rambling on about apple lisa and microsoft bob?

i swear, this place becomes more like the monkey house at the zoo every day.

Humm... (4, Interesting)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517375)

Two Indian born CTOs are the two top runners. Is this a statment about.
1. Diversity?
2. The lack of US citizens going into the tech sector.
3. Stereotyping?

Me I would vote for Vivek Kundra. I think he would see things from a customers point of view vs a vendors point of view.

Re:Humm... (0, Offtopic)

pmarini (989354) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517601)

All spelling and grammar errors are international. Grammar Nazis' need entertainment.

there, fixed for you...

Re:Humm... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26517619)

Two Indian born CTOs [...] The lack of US citizens

Maybe it's just a sign that the latent racism which assumes that just because someone was born in India they can't be a US citizen is coming to an end.

Re:Humm... (3, Interesting)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517801)

My mistake. Lack of native citizens going into the tech sector.
I am pretty sure that Vivek Kundra is a US citizen he has lived here since he was 11.

True. Neither went from India straight into IT. (4, Interesting)

Valdrax (32670) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517879)

Maybe it's just a sign that the latent racism which assumes that just because someone was born in India they can't be a US citizen is coming to an end.

Heh. True.

Padmasree Warrior grew up in India and went to IIT, but she majored in Chemical Engineering and later got a masters in the same subject at Cornell. She started at one of Motorola's fabs and went on to management later. As far as I can tell, she's never been part of the software and systems side of the IT industry outside of management, instead working her way up through the fab side. (Much like I wouldn't consider John Sculley of Apple fame to have been an "IT guy" having an architecture major who went into marketing and management at PepsiCo before becoming an infamous Apple CEO.)

Vivek Kundra, while ethnically Indian, grew up in Tanzania not India, speaking Swahili. He came to the US at age 11, and I'd bet a dollar that he was a US citizen by the time he went to college. He has a BS in psychology and a MS in information technology from the University of Maryland. He also has private sector experience.

So, to sum up: One Indian-American never went into IT so much as into plant design and later management, and the other was not only probably a US citizen at the time, but was more African than Indian in cultural upbringing.

NERF padmasree warrior! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26517389)

also, vivek and kundra talent trees need more buffs.

Re:NERF padmasree warrior! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26518273)

lawl, l2CTO nub!!!1111eleven

Idunno about Vivek... (1)

MadCat221 (572505) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517621)

I heard that he killed his boss and misused something rather important for selfish reasons.... Oh wait... VIVEK, not Vivec [uesp.net] .

China (3, Interesting)

geekmansworld (950281) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517657)

Given that Cisco is the company that provided China with most of its network solutions for the so-called "Great Firewall", I should hope that tips the scales slightly in Kundra's favor.

Re:China (2, Insightful)

The Moof (859402) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517755)

Given that Cisco is the company that provided China with most of its network solutions for the so-called "Great Firewall"

And you don't think that somewhere, some agency is looking at that as a positive? Especially considering the wiretapping/network monitoring in recent years...

what happened to bill joy as a possible choice? (3, Insightful)

capsteve (4595) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517665)

i actually think either of these guys would be fine. the fact that we are getting a US CTO is a good first step. face facts:the first US CTO will prolly have a hard start until the rest of the government finally step in line and actually realize that a CTO is needed in these times.
there's gonna be some oldtime hardliners who'll remember "a time when there wasn't a fancy-pants US CTO, and don't really see a need for one..." once the prejudice and ignorance are washed away, then the CTO will actually make a difference.
on a side note, what happened with talk of Bill Joy becoming CTO? not to taut nativism, but he is an American(born and bred), author of vi, backbone of the original BSD rollout and co-founder of Sun.
whats up with that?

Re:what happened to bill joy as a possible choice? (1)

bsharma (577257) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517973)

Andy Grove, Bill Gates, Irwin Jacobs, Steve Jobs (if healthy enough) would also be good choices.

Kobayashi Maru (4, Insightful)

viridari (1138635) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517853)

Do you want to die by way of eaten by sharks, or would you rather have wolves?

I honestly don't think either candidate is qualified for the position. We already know that Cisco is willfully ignorant, even hostile, towards FOSS and I imagine quite a lot of that mindset is endorsed by the CTO's office.

Is it too late to clean the slate and start over?

Liberty Is Dead (1, Flamebait)

TonyXL (33244) | more than 5 years ago | (#26517889)

The fact that people are debating who should be the Technology Central Planner, instead of realizing that the very idea of one is silly and dangerous, shows that liberty is dead.

"Technology Central Planner"? (1)

argent (18001) | more than 5 years ago | (#26518055)

So all those companies that have a CTO are communist?

No, really, what the hell are you talking about?

Re:Liberty Is Dead (1)

Valdrax (32670) | more than 5 years ago | (#26518191)

The fact that people are debating who should be the Technology Central Planner, instead of realizing that the very idea of one is silly and dangerous, shows that liberty is dead.

Gosh, I guess liberty is defined as the government having absolutely NO plan for how they spend money on their own IT infrastructure. I guess we should leave all that to random whim of local agency bureaucrats who have nothing better to work on.

Or are you some delusional crazy who thinks that the nation's CTO is going to be dictating (Soviet style) what direction development and product release the private sector must take. If that's true, then don't worry -- that's the responsibility of the alien/jew hybrids at the UN NWO committee who run the mind control laser satellites. All hail Lemuria! May her tendrils forever writhe in ecstasy!

Pete Townshend of The Who (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26517923)

He knows alot about computer security and he wrote Substitute (a great song!):

You think we look pretty good together
You think my shoes are made of leather

But I'm a substitute for another guy
I look pretty tall but my heels are high
The simple things you see are all complicated
I look pretty young, but I'm just back-dated, yeah

Substitute your lies for fact
I can see right through your plastic mac
I look all white, but my dad was black
My fine looking suit is really made out of sack

I was born with a plastic spoon in my mouth
The north side of my town faced east, and the east was facing south
And now you dare to look me in the eye
Those crocodile tears are what you cry
It's a genuine problem, you won't try
To work it out at all you just pass it by, pass it by

Substitute me for him
Substitute my coke for gin
Substitute you for my mum
At least I'll get my washing done

Warrior == Poor (5, Interesting)

Masters Champion (855000) | more than 5 years ago | (#26518013)

I can't say anything about the other person, but Ms. Warrior would be a disastrous pick, IMHO. I had some contact with her when she was CTO at Motorola and I came away from that experience thinking she was:

1. Was a poor leader
2. Did not consider opinions other than her own on making decisions.
3. Was really not very knowledgeable
4. Was only out for her own advancement


Perhaps these are the attributes of many successful executives, but don't strike me as qualities you want in a civil servant.

Did you ever have contact with a person of real power/wealth/influence and come away thinking "How did they EVER get to where they are?" The older I get, the more I think success requires some work + many connections + a lot of luck.

It looks like the last might strike Ms. Warrior here again pretty soon.

Obama style, for sure... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26518147)

Can we have CmdrTaco as the nation's CTO? YES, WE CAN!

Now we know... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26518153)

... what Steve Jobs' LOA is really about.

Okay, not really... but here's wishing.

google apps for whole government (3, Interesting)

Danathar (267989) | more than 5 years ago | (#26518241)

Kundra replaced all of D.C. gov's word and exchange infrastructure with google apps.

Wonder if he would push that for the whole federal government?

Padmasree is forward thinking, and the best pick (2, Insightful)

colinmcnamara (1152427) | more than 5 years ago | (#26518247)

As Cisco's CTO Padmasree Warrior has led many changes inside of Cisco.

1. Green DataCenter initiatives - She has led the charge in lowering power consumption of existing DataCenters by utilizing new technologies, as well as consolidating sites. This has a direct financial impact, as well as being good for the environment.

2. Focus on collaborative tools and teams - she has really pushed to break down the silo's between teams by providing the tools and technologies to seamlessly share information between teams.

Most importantly, she is a forward thinking technologist, not a bureaucrat. If I am going to trust anybody to drive the technical vision of the federal government, I am going to trust Padmasree.

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