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Get Out of Sprint Free

kdawson posted more than 5 years ago | from the open-door dept.

Cellphones 153

hyades1 writes in to let us know that Sprint has extended to Jan. 31 the time in which subscribers can switch carriers without paying an early termination fee. "Last month we learned that Sprint was increasing its administrative fee to $0.75, giving customers until January 1 of this year to back out without a penalty. It seems that $0.75 wasn't going to cut it as Sprint has raised its fee yet again, this time to $0.99. Customers now have through January 31 to sever ties sans-ETF, so if you missed the boat last month you're in luck. Though some customer care reps apparently aren't yet aware of the change, we did confirm it with Sprint so keep trying and as always, contacting them via chat seems to go a bit more smoothly than calling them up."

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Is this really what passes for news? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26537375)

If so, I expect to see a story about how T-Mobile customers can get MyFaves for free, since that's also something people on mobile phone forums are talking about.

Re:Is this really what passes for news? (4, Informative)

gravos (912628) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537429)

I used this same tactic for Verizon last year when they adjusted their international text message fee. This is how I was able to leave Verizon and join Sprints SERO plan. I LOVE IT. Can't beat the price and I've had nothing but good coverage and service from them.

Re:Is this really what passes for news? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26537597)

I considered not posting anonymously because I just don't care any more--but /. is getting lame. All of the cool tags are gone and the reply average is going down. It looks like the genericification is taking hold. Is this because of the economy? It seems like a bad strategy. Don't they want people to visit and have fun here or is it now just about mainstream news? What did I build all of that karma for?

Re:Is this really what passes for news? (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26537535)

News for niggards, stuff that matters!

[Look it up kids, it's not a racial slur. It had to alliterate, so it was really my only choice.]

Re:Is this really what passes for news? (4, Funny)

Hordeking (1237940) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537605)

News for niggards, stuff that matters!

[Look it up kids, it's not a racial slur. It had to alliterate, so it was really my only choice.]

While technically correct, it's still off-topic. Ironically, that's exactly what I would have modded you if I hadn't squandered my mod points on booze, hookers, and insightful posts.

Re:Is this really what passes for news? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26537719)

That's not really ironic at all -- you're probably one of those moderators who misuses the "redundant" mod category as well.

Or perhaps you were just being ironic.

Re:Is this really what passes for news? (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26538081)

Oh, you mods. A laugh a minute.

Re:Is this really what passes for news? (1)

SteveTheNewbie (1171139) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537907)

Does that cost an entire $1 as well ?

wish tmobile would offer the same (1)

planckscale (579258) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537413)

Seems like every time I get close to getting out, my phone breaks and I have to extend my 2 year contract again...

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (3, Insightful)

tchuladdiass (174342) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537463)

why would you have to extend? Just buy a replacement phone at full price. Personally, I don't find it worth it to save $100 or so by committing to spend 24 x $90/month.

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (4, Insightful)

vux984 (928602) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537669)

why would you have to extend? Just buy a replacement phone at full price. Personally, I don't find it worth it to save $100 or so by committing to spend 24 x $90/month.

Unless of course you were going to spend 24x90 anyway. Its not like you get a reduced rate if you buy the equipment outright, so you might as well take the subsidies.

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (1)

tchuladdiass (174342) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537739)

This may be a better deal now, but a few years ago the wireless carriers were constantly coming out with better plans than their competitors, not to mention that the selection of handsets from the carriers differed significantly. It was a good day when my Nextel contract was up several years ago (just after Sprint bought them out).

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26538025)

More importantly you can get the free phone and sell it on ebay... so you wind up with 24x90 - ~$150.

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (4, Insightful)

tknd (979052) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538663)

No, never. If you keep signing 2 year contracts we'll never have competitive rates because you keep giving up your biggest bargaining chip. When you are monthly, you can cancel at any point for bad service and they lose market share while their competitor gains market share. You can use this to negotiate down your monthly rate on a monthly basis rather than every 2 years.

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (2, Informative)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 5 years ago | (#26540415)

Nope. These days, even if you've exhausted your contract and have gone monthly, they don't care about retention. At least, AT&T doesn't.

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (3, Informative)

Glendale2x (210533) | more than 5 years ago | (#26540573)

Sprint will, or at least they used to. Last time around I got them to take a percentage off the top of the bill every month.

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (1)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 5 years ago | (#26541265)

They're who I ended up with.

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (1)

Insightfill (554828) | more than 5 years ago | (#26539615)

Its not like you get a reduced rate if you buy the equipment outright, so you might as well take the subsidies.

Actually, there was a time a few years ago when I called to cancel service because I was "out of contract" with a still-working phone. The rep (AT&T/Cingular at the time) offered me a break of $5/month to stick with them, with my old phone. I took them up on it.

Of course, don't play this gambit if you don't have a viable switch plan, but know that it may work.

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (1)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 5 years ago | (#26540471)

You know Cingular offered me a similar cheap rate ($10 a month) until suddenly they announced my fee was increasing to $30 a month in three months time. I asked why and they gave me the excuse, "We eliminated the low price plans. $30 is now our cheapest rate."

Stupidity. I switched to VirginMobile instead. Sometimes I think these companies like shooting themselves in the foot.

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (1)

Glendale2x (210533) | more than 5 years ago | (#26540269)

But you *could* get a reduced service rate or other goodies.

Let the contract ride. When you get close to your date you'll start getting calls regarding your account. But the ball is in your court to negotiate with them because you can freely leave once the date passes. Most carriers don't like letting customers leave (hence the early term fee) and they'll do almost anything to keep you. They'll try to sell you phones or something, but pretend you're going to switch and hold out for free services and discounts if you don't really want to switch carriers.

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26538571)

This is exactly what I do. I rarely need my phone at all so I go with prepaid and the occasional new phone that I purchase separately.
Can't complain about paying 0.09â per minute and SMS to any carrier. Receiving is free, of course.

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (1)

SupremoMan (912191) | more than 5 years ago | (#26539479)

I tend to get 5 new phones a year to extend current contract. And the ones I don't use/distribute to family, I can sell on Ebay for $100 a pop. It's like a refund.

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (2, Informative)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537803)

Or buy a cheap replacement phone off Ebay and then wait until your contract is up.

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (4, Informative)

todrules (882424) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537921)

You're with T-mobile. They're a GSM carrier. Just buy a new phone on Ebay. There's a great selection of GSM phones. Also, (and I'm not sure if this works any more), but you used to be able to buy a cheap, prepaid GSM phone, and then just put your postpaid SIM in there. Cheap, easy way to get a replacement.

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (3, Informative)

Kindaian (577374) | more than 5 years ago | (#26539153)

Why get a replacement at all?

Just scrap the GSM phone.

When you are around the computer use voip... if not, well, people can send you an email!

And, use the free time you just got with all those useless calls to get a nice warm cup of *whatever*, and relax...

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (2, Insightful)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 5 years ago | (#26540593)

And, use the free time you just got with all those useless calls to get a nice warm cup of *whatever*, and relax...

Well, I've got to admit, you've got a point. If I didn't get all those 'useless' calls, I sure would have a lot of free time. Hooray for one-size-fits-all solutions.

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 5 years ago | (#26539285)

eBay is also home to some of the scummiest web vendors I've ever seen. They'll send you a refurb phone marked as new, let you post a good service mark, then it'll go dead and you'll either be out your money, or have to pay them to fix it.

Re:wish tmobile would offer the same (1)

Ariven (256118) | more than 5 years ago | (#26539435)

Yup, everytime my daughter breaks her cheapo phone that we have on t-mobile, I go buy another pre-pay t-mobile phone for $25 (or so) and swap in the SIM card.. works great.

Virgin mobile... (2, Interesting)

samriel (1456543) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537433)

Virgin Mobile raised text and speech pay-as-you-go rates with the only warning being, get this, at text message which costs YOU to recieve. Where's my back-out date?

Re:Virgin mobile... (1)

box4831 (1126771) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537643)

I thought Virgin mobile didnt have 1-2 year contracts to back out of in the first place?

Your backout date is whenever you stop paying :)

Re:Virgin mobile... (3, Insightful)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 5 years ago | (#26539751)

Virgin Mobile raised text and speech pay-as-you-go rates with the only warning being, get this, at text message which costs YOU to recieve. Where's my back-out date?

I think you are missing the point of "pay-as-you-go" service.

Is there a way to get this with Alltel? (1)

mr_stinky_britches (926212) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537479)

Do any of you know of a way to escape contract with Alltel without paying the early termination fee? I'm sick of the 5-7 day delay in getting my voicemail messages! ):

Re:Is there a way to get this with Alltel? (5, Informative)

Hordeking (1237940) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537647)

Do any of you know of a way to escape contract with Alltel without paying the early termination fee? I'm sick of the 5-7 day delay in getting my voicemail messages! ):

Claim they're breaking the contract by not providing you with service. You're paying them to deliver messages in a timely manner, not take messages like shithead roommates.

Re:Is there a way to get this with Alltel? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26538223)

Claim they're breaking the contract by not providing you with service. You're paying them to deliver messages in a timely manner, not take messages like pothead roommates.

There, fixed that for ya.

Re:Is there a way to get this with Alltel? (2, Insightful)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | more than 5 years ago | (#26539641)

Do any of you know of a way to escape contract with Alltel without paying the early termination fee? I'm sick of the 5-7 day delay in getting my voicemail messages! ):

Claim they're breaking the contract by not providing you with service. You're paying them to deliver messages in a timely manner, not take messages like shithead roommates.

Look for fee increases. Most carriers increase some sort of fee every couple of months. You then have a window where they're legally required to let you out of your contract.

Re:Is there a way to get this with Alltel? (4, Informative)

wpiman (739077) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537663)

File an online petition with the FCC claiming the service doesn't work as advertised and they will let you go.

Re:Is there a way to get this with Alltel? (4, Informative)

mr_stinky_britches (926212) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537885)

Thank you for that information!

I found the FCC's Electronic Consumer Complaint [fcc.gov] site and I guess we will see how it goes.

Again, thank you (at least now there is some hope) (!)

Re:Is there a way to get this with Alltel? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26539311)

I'd just like to second this move...we did it with AT&T. They used to have horrible service where I lived, so we filed a petition with the FCC and they gave my family new phones to try (they still sucked), so we gave the phones back and they let us out of the contract.

Re:Is there a way to get this with Alltel? (2, Informative)

SlashdotOgre (739181) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537849)

Alltell is being bought out by Verizon, so perhaps that will resolve your problem (and if they're changing fees, it may give you an excuse to bounce). However I've had Verizon's cellular service for over a decade now and have never had the VM issues you describe, so it may be worth just waiting it out. I'd recommend checking howardforums.com as it's one of the best cellular forums on the net.

Re:Is there a way to get this with Alltel? (1)

leon.gandalf (752828) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538151)

I have Alltel and have never had any VM problems....However getting text messages to and from Verizon phones has been interesting. Sometimes takes a day or so.
And when Verizon takes over I am so gonna miss "My Circle"

Re:Is there a way to get this with Alltel? (1)

k_187 (61692) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538567)

Well, there's a good chance that Verizon won't force you to upgrade your plan, at least until you get a new phone. I'm still running on the exact same plan I signed up for 5 years ago, they've just extended the end date and added/subtracted features as I've moved on.

Re:Is there a way to get this with Alltel? (1)

themacks (1197889) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538075)

The only times I have had an issue with that was with an older phone. If I ever called my voicemail to check, they were there, but the phone never alerted me to them.

Re:Is there a way to get this with Alltel? (1)

sortius_nod (1080919) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538111)

It's unfortunate that the US has little to no consumer protection, here in Australia there's the TIO (www.tio.gov.au) or the state based Consumer Affairs/Department of Fair Trading that deals with these issues. At the mere mention of these bodies the carriers quickly release you from contract, or prepare for a massive legal battle without any cost to you.

Re:Is there a way to get this with Alltel? (1)

michaelhood (667393) | more than 5 years ago | (#26539639)

It's unfortunate that the US has little to no consumer protection, here in Australia there's the TIO (www.tio.gov.au) or the state based Consumer Affairs/Department of Fair Trading that deals with these issues. At the mere mention of these bodies the carriers quickly release you from contract, or prepare for a massive legal battle without any cost to you.

www.fcc.gov [fcc.gov] and www.ftc.gov [fcc.gov] , respectively.

You could die (1)

gsgriffin (1195771) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538473)

Google death certificate and legal documents. Get a letterhead from a law office and fill it all out to sound good. Send it in. See what happens. Never tired it but it just might work. Do you really think they are so bright as to check up on every single legal doc?

Re:Is there a way to get this with Alltel? (1)

AusIV (950840) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538803)

I don't know if Alltell will let you do this, but I use Grand Central for voice mail. The intent of Grand Central is that you have one phone number that rings multiple other phone numbers. But they also have a great voice mail service. I registered an account (free), set a quick rule to go straight to voice mail.

My phone let me specify a number for forwarding calls when I'm unavailable. I switched it from T-Mobile's voice mail number to my Grand Central number.

Now I can get text messages when someone leaves a voicemail (more reliable than T-Mobile's notification). I can also check my voicemail on the computer, and save them permanently if I so desire.

CDMA (5, Insightful)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537603)

Seems as though the only people I know who actively choose Sprint choose it because Sprint is the only viable option where they live. The GSM carriers' coverage really starts to suffer in the big, wide-open spaces of the Midwest.

Re:CDMA (1)

ZeroPly (881915) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538055)

I choose Sprint because I'm on their SERO plan and get 450 peak minutes, unlimited data, unlimited texts, and 7pm night and weekends for $29.99 a month. My bill with all the taxes and fees is $37 every month. No other carrier comes close to that.

Re:CDMA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26538489)

Yes yes everyone knows how fantastic the ol' SERO plan is. It's a shame it's no longer available for people to sign up for, see: irrelevant.

Re:CDMA (1)

Solandri (704621) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538675)

Yes yes everyone knows how fantastic the ol' SERO plan is. It's a shame it's no longer available for people to sign up for, see: irrelevant.

Since the subject at hand is people leaving Sprint, and many of those people have SERO, it would seem quite relevant. I'm one of those people. I hardly ever call customer service so I almost never see Sprint's crappiness. I do however use the wireless Internet and free text extensively.

Re:CDMA (1)

ZeroPly (881915) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538695)

Sorry you missed the boat on SERO, but my point was that there are people who choose Sprint even though it's not the only viable option where they live.

Try reading the parent post, then you'll see the relevance.

Re:CDMA (1)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 5 years ago | (#26540457)

I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. I use my phone for web access, mail, and 8-10k (yes, that's thousand) minutes per month.

No one has opted to match thier $100/mo "unlimited voice/data/text" plan (not "everything" as the name would imply) which is disappointing because I loath my Moto q and would love to switch to a GSM network and get an Android.

Re:CDMA (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26538067)

The reason my company choose sprint was due to price. And the main factor in the billing between them and the competition (AT&T, Verizon, etc) was the data lines. Most of our phones are are PDAs and with Sprint the most basic unlimited data line is $10 a month per line. No one came close. The cheapest AT&T and Verizon could do was 50-60 per month per line.

Personally I don't like Sprint (mainly due to coverage) and I tried my best to get the price so we could switch, but sadly it came down to price.

Re:CDMA (1)

dfm3 (830843) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538353)

That's funny about the Midwest, because here in the rural south I've noticed the opposite. Almost nobody uses Sprint, because once you get more than a few miles from the center of a major city, service is terrible at best. Not even the interstates and major highways have full coverage. The only reason we have Sprint is because we have a family plan, and part of the family spends most of their time in large Midwestern cities (where apparently it works great. But don't all carriers have their best coverage in metro centers?). Sucks for the rest of us, though. But since our contract ended several months ago, we're planning to switch soon (not sure to who).

Re:CDMA (2, Interesting)

Solandri (704621) | more than 5 years ago | (#26539063)

Many of Sprint's plans have free roaming. If yours does and you're in an area with poor reception, try switching your phone to roaming only. Verizon is one of Sprint's roaming partners (so was Alltel, but Verizon bought them). So usually you can get a decent signal anywhere you could with the other carriers. If you don't switch to roaming-only, the phone tries to connect to a Sprint network even if its signal is almost nonexistent while the Verizon signal is strong.

Do NOT do this if you're near Canada or Mexico. If you end up roaming on an international network, you get to pay international rates. And getting it cleared up with Sprint's customer service could take forever.

The original CDMA services were rolled out by Sprint and Verizon using subcontractors to set up the towers. CDMA was relatively new and untested, so they relied on specs from Qualcomm to design those networks. The specs turned out to be rather optimistic. As a result the towers in certain older regions are spaced too far apart, leading to many areas with poor service. Verizon has been pretty good about moving or setting up new towers. Sprint has not. But if you can roam on Verizon's towers, the problem goes away.

Re:CDMA (1)

Rog-Mahal (1164607) | more than 5 years ago | (#26540233)

Currently, I have been unsatisfied with Sprint from both a customer service and phone service standpoint. My family has used them for years and had numerous issues. Phones have malfunctioned, hidden charges have jacked up bills without prior warning, customer service reps are unhelpful. Roaming on Verizon was one of the few useful features. Needless to say, I've been on the lookout for a new carrier, which lead me to find that AT&T and T-Mobile also have free roaming on most of the plans I looked at for both families and individuals. I'm not trying to be a salesman, just to point out that free roaming is not only available with just Sprint. Besides, why would I pay a company that has a poor coverage map and leeches off of another network when I can give my money to the guys who do it right?

Re:CDMA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26541353)

Not to dispute what you say... but here's a bit of an expansion on that.

          Verizon formed as a merger of quite a few companies in 2000 (something like 5 or 6 main ones.) PrimeCo was PCS, but the rest were companies that had been building out cellular coverage since the 1980s. So, some of these companies were a bit "stingier" than others, and basically built out assuming 5 watt bag phones. Verizon likes to brag how they've spent $48 billion since then on improvements.. that has certainly bought a lot of cell sites to help fill those "stingy" areas in.

          Sprint built their PCS network from scratch around 1996. They basically built out enough to launch in larger cities and have some coverage in between. They've been building out since, but Verizon's essentially had a 10-year head start, and (important for rural areas in particular), PCS spectrum doesn't travel as far and so needs more sites for the same coverage.

Re:CDMA (1)

darkmeridian (119044) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538427)

Not only is this Sprint early termination fee waiver old news, the article gets all the information wrong. The Administrative Charge is being increased from $0.75 to $0.99 beginning on January 1, 2009 [sprint.com] . You have thirty days after the change in fees to ask for the ETF waiver, and you have to specifically mention that you are termination due to the change in fees. [sprint.com] I canceled my Sprint account back in December and moved to T-Mobile.

Sprint was terrible. The bills were always wrong and I wasted hours each month getting my bill fixed. They would always add unrequested features like phone insurance or international calling. They would extend my contract for bizarre reasons such as buying a replacement phone without getting any rebates or discounts. This is a great chance to get out of an artificially-extended Sprint contract.

Re:CDMA (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26538873)

im with sprint because they are the only carrier that gives me unlimited phone as modem on my $50 blackberry plan.

yep cheaper to buy a blackberry and tether it than to buy and unlimited data plan with a modem.

Re:CDMA (1)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | more than 5 years ago | (#26540005)

I USED to be a Sprint customer years back here in KC. I always had dropped calls and their customer service was horrible. They were also had expensive packages. This is their headquarters and the service sucked around town. You'd think they'd have enough pride to man up on their home field. Then, when my contract was up and I switched my number, they still tried to stiff me for the $150 fee. It took a lot of my time to correct, and they still stiffed me for another month of service. I have friends who worked for them and the stories I heard about how that company was run was enough to seal the deal for me.

I just got back from Washington D.C. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26537623)

A couple weeks ago, while browsing around the library downtown, I had to take a piss. As I
entered the john, Barack Obama -- the messiah himself -- came out of one of the booths. I
stood at the urinal looking at him out of the corner of my eye as he washed his hands. He
didn't once look at me. He was busy and in any case I was sure the secret service wouldn't
even let me shake his hand.

As soon as he left I darted into the booth he'd vacated, hoping there might be a lingering
smell of shit and even a seat still warm from his sturdy ass. I found not only the smell but
the shit itself. He'd forgotten to flush. And what a treasure he had left behind. Three or
four beautiful specimens floated in the bowl. It apparently had been a fairly dry,
constipated shit, for all were fat, stiff, and ruggedly textured. The real prize was a great
feast of turd -- a nine inch gastrointestinal triumph as thick as his cock -- or at least as
I imagined it!

I knelt before the bowl, inhaling the rich brown fragrance and wondered if I should obey the
impulse building up inside me. I'd always been a liberal democrat and had been on the Obama
train since last year. Of course I'd had fantasies of meeting him, sucking his cock and
balls, not to mention sucking his asshole clean, but I never imagined I would have the
chance. Now, here I was, confronted with the most beautiful five-pound turd I'd ever feasted
my eyes on, a sausage fit to star in any fantasy and one I knew to have been hatched from
the asshole of Barack Obama, the chosen one.

Why not? I plucked it from the bowl, holding it with both hands to keep it from breaking. I
lifted it to my nose. It smelled like rich, ripe limburger (horrid, but thrilling), yet had
the consistency of cheddar. What is cheese anyway but milk turning to shit without the
benefit of a digestive tract?

I gave it a lick and found that it tasted better then it smelled.

I hesitated no longer. I shoved the fucking thing as far into my mouth as I could get it and
sucked on it like a big half nigger cock, beating my meat like a madman. I wanted to
completely engulf it and bit off a large chunk, flooding my mouth with the intense,
bittersweet flavor. To my delight I found that while the water in the bowl had chilled the
outside of the turd, it was still warm inside. As I chewed I discovered that it was filled
with hard little bits of something I soon identified as peanuts. He hadn't chewed them
carefully and they'd passed through his body virtually unchanged. I ate it greedily, sending
lump after peanutty lump sliding scratchily down my throat. My only regret was that Barack
Obama wasn't there to see my loyalty and wash it down with his piss.

I soon reached a terrific climax. I caught my cum in the cupped palm of my hand and drank it
down. Believe me, there is no more delightful combination of flavors than the hot sweetness
of cum with the rich bitterness of shit. It's even better than listening to an Obama speech!

Afterwards I was sorry that I hadn't made it last longer. But then I realized that I still
had a lot of fun in store for me. There was still a clutch of virile turds left in the bowl.
I tenderly fished them out, rolled them into my handkerchief, and stashed them in my
briefcase. In the week to come I found all kinds of ways to eat the shit without bolting it
right down. Once eaten it's gone forever unless you want to filch it third hand out of your
own asshole. Not an unreasonable recourse in moments of desperation or simple boredom.

I stored the turds in the refrigerator when I was not using them but within a week they were
all gone. The last one I held in my mouth without chewing, letting it slowly dissolve. I had
liquid shit trickling down my throat for nearly four hours. I must have had six orgasms in
the process.

I often think of Barack Obama dropping solid gold out of his sweet, pink asshole every day,
never knowing what joy it could, and at least once did, bring to a grateful democrat.

Is /. now Verizon and AT&T's free ad board? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26537781)

I mean come on ...

Odd... (3, Insightful)

operagost (62405) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537801)

Seems to me, that since they are breaching the contract, you can terminate at any time. What's with the time limit? Once they increase the fee, all contracts with Sprint are, by law, NULL AND VOID.

Re:Odd... (4, Insightful)

Chyeld (713439) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537965)

Like credit card companies, the wireless companies write into their contract the ability to 'revise' terms as they deem necessary. As long as they provide you a copy of the updated terms and conditions with a note along the lines of "if you don't contact us by such and such a date to tell us you reject these changes, they are in effect".

In theory, you should be able to contact them and tell them you reject the changes, in which case you are still on your old contract and/or they negotiate a different set of changes for you. In practice, they also tell you refusal to accept the changes will result in the termination of your account. Since the termination is their decision rather than yours, they aren't suppose to be able to levee any 'early cancelation' fees.

Not that that stops it from happening.

Re:Odd... (3, Informative)

Rich0 (548339) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538591)

This applies to any contract. Regardless of what is written in the agreement, no party to a contract may make a material change to an agreement after the fact without the other parties (possibly implied) consent. A material change is any change impacting the substance of the agreement - ie it might have impacted your decision to enter into the agreement in the first place. Money of any kind is almost always considered material. Maybe if we're talking a 50 cent error in a $100M real estate deal it might not be - but nobody would even bother to try to extract an extra 50 cents on such a deal anyway.

Is your credit card company raising interest rates (outside of the variable terms already set forth)? Just tell them no. They can choose to close your account, but you can pay off the remaining balance under the original terms. Or, they could choose to continue under the original terms (which is fair).

Anything to the contrary in any contract you sign of any kind simply isn't enforcable. Any court would throw out terms allowing unilateral changes after the fact. They might be able to imply consent if they clearly warn you of the changes and then give you a reasonable time and reasonable means to inform them of your intent to not accept the change.

Disclaimer, IANAL...

Re:Odd... (1)

davolfman (1245316) | more than 5 years ago | (#26539985)

I wonder if it's possible to get an early termination penalty from them through small claims court by arguing that any penalties for termination of the contract should apply to both parties.

Re:Odd... (1)

themacks (1197889) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538029)

The assumption is that if you continue paying for your service the following month, you agreed to the change in contract, thus creating a new contract.

Re:Odd... (1)

Kindaian (577374) | more than 5 years ago | (#26539211)

Not if you accept the new terms.

That is way they have to allow you to refuse them. ;)

p.s.- you don't have to pay ETF because it's them that don't accept to keep the terms of the contract not you. Also, you may request an indemnification because of that. They are the ones defaulting on the contract.

Does this work in all states? (1)

kiick (102190) | more than 5 years ago | (#26537995)

I checked my bill, and sure enough the administrative fee has gone up. However, I don't recall getting any notice of such. Is this a state-by-state deal?

PS: Sure enough, the SA has the materially adverse clause in it.

PPS: Sprint sucks.

Re:Does this work in all states? (1)

dfm3 (830843) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538233)

I think that the bill is your notice. By paying it, you are agreeing to the fee increase.

But the sneaky behavior I've observed my CC company doing lately is this: when they change their terms, they notify you by burying the notice in a colorful envelope which looks like any other piece of junk mail. Inside the envelope are several glossy fliers and advertisements, and oh, by the way, the updated terms for your existing service are enclosed on a single pamphlet which looks at first glance like it could be for one of the services being advertised. But, if you read carefully, you'll see that it's your official notice of the new terms. They're hoping that you'll throw it out without noticing the changes.

Nothing bad to say about Sprint. (1)

changa (197280) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538057)

I have been with sprint for almost a decade and don't have any problems with them.

Their customer service sucks but for some reason I never had much problem with it.

Being in southern California the coverage is damn good and the data service is fast.

During my long commute I stream Internet radio over my phone and it just works.

I must have just been lucky.

Re:Nothing bad to say about Sprint. (1)

SomeJoel (1061138) | more than 5 years ago | (#26539007)

You must be one of the lucky ones. I had Sprint about 8 years ago and my phone went on the fritz. So, I called them (from my office phone) and got put on hold for 30 minutes. I didn't have time to wait, so I hung up. The next day, I called them early in the morning. I was on hold for four hours. When they finally got around to taking my call, after about 30 seconds the rep told me "Sounds like it's your problem" and hung up on me. After being hung up on following a four hour hold time, I called back (the account department this time). Luckily, my contract had since expired, so I left those bastards and will never go back. They offered me a new phone and a $50 credit to stay, but I told them no way in hell.

Re:Nothing bad to say about Sprint. (1)

EvilSurfinCow (763679) | more than 5 years ago | (#26541227)

I agree. 10 years w/sprint. Zero problems. Excellent coverage and service. When I have questions I email them and always have a responce/resolution within 24 hours. Telephone support has always been excellent. The only issue with them is I can not text friends on several eurpoean GSM carriers nor can I use my phone over seas. I'd love to switch to a GSM provider such as ATT but at $30 more a month for less service w/att than I have with sprint its hard to make that jump.....

multiple phones\broadband (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26538119)

I saw the post about termination or transfer of services without early termination fees.
I run multiple phones and a couple of phone that don't work in necessary areas..
Can I terminate these and or switch to new carrier without the 150-250 term fees...thanks

My Experience (5, Informative)

Comatose51 (687974) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538123)

The same thing happen about a year ago with international messaging rate hike. I called to cancel my plan but the rep. tried to argue that it doesn't constitute a "material change" to the contract. Seriously? Anyways, after threatening to call the California Public Utilities Commission failed, I actually called the California PUC. The PUC rep. told me that before I file a complaint, I should speak to their executive accounts customer service people so he transferred me over to their number. Some Sprint person picked up and was about to redirect me to retentions again but I told him very clearly that I've been forwarded by the PUC and am about to file a complaint. At that point, he actually forwarded me to their executive accounts people. I spoke to the lady and laid out my argument by reading the back of my bill, which contains the terms, along with the notice of the rate change. She put me on hold for a few minutes to check some stuff over and agreed with me. She even went so far as to put my account on hold and save my number so it can be ported to a new carrier. I switched to Virgin, who ironically is on the Sprint network, but having no contracts is awesome.

Hope that helps anyone trying to leave Sprint. Don't let the retention rep scare you. If you have something like a PUC backing you up, use it! Know your rights.

how does this work? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26538159)

How does this work? Say I want to cancel my Sprint account and go to Verizon, but I'd like to keep the phone number I currently have. What order do things need to be done in?

Re:how does this work? (1)

AndrewNeo (979708) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538415)

Unfortunately when you cancel your service like this, you lose your phone number. The only way to transfer your number (as far as I know) if you're in contract is to actually pay your ETF. As someone stated in an earlier comment, by refusing the changes in the contract, Sprint is canceling the contract instead of you, so you don't have to pay the ETF. To transfer your number, you'd have to cancel the account normally through the number transfer process.

Re:how does this work? (2, Informative)

red0ktob3r (999496) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538751)

I canceled my contract with Sprint through the chat option on the website (which only appears during business hours), and you have until the end of the billing cycle in which you canceled to port your number to a different carrier. I'm on T-Mobile now with the same number I had on Sprint.

Can I cancel agreement and stay on sans-contract? (2, Interesting)

zachtib (828265) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538227)

Does anyone know if I can use this to end my 2 year agreement but continue my Sprint service? I don't plan on switching carriers, but I would like to be able to sign a new agreement for an upgrade in a few months when the Pre comes out.

ETF is only 99 cents? (1)

lifesizeactionfigure (1273144) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538315)

The recession must have caused Slashdot to lay off some editors. Last time I checked, $0.99 was 99 cents, and that's not much of a "penalty" IMHO. $99.00 on the other hand... that's real money.

Re:ETF is only 99 cents? (4, Informative)

dfm3 (830843) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538499)

They must be using Verizon Math.

But it does add up. That's 99 cents per month, or $12 per year, which granted isn't much. But when you add an "FCC" fee, "communications" fee, "we got sued by somebody and are passing the legal expenses onto our customers" fee, and the "just for the heck of it because we can" fee every month, you can be looking at a pretty hefty bill.

Re:ETF is only 99 cents? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26538781)

My Verizon "plan" is $43.99 per month, but my bill comes with $8.22 in taxes, surcharges, and fees. That's an 18.7% tax.

Re:ETF is only 99 cents? (1)

ZorinLynx (31751) | more than 5 years ago | (#26540175)

There should be a law requiring providers to advertise the exact amount you will be billed every month. No giving you rate A, then charging you rate A + Taxes B.

This way you can just look at the marketing materials and know exactly what you're going to pay without having to ask friends questions like "What's your total bill come out to?"

This should be the case for all servides, including things like DSL, home phone, and cable TV.

Re:ETF is only 99 cents? (2, Insightful)

BarefootClown (267581) | more than 5 years ago | (#26540733)

There should be a law requiring providers to advertise the exact amount you will be billed every month. No giving you rate A, then charging you rate A + Taxes B.

I'll meet you halfway: taxes should still be separated out--because I want to know how much the government is taking from me--but all fees and such ought to be rolled into the total price. That includes things like the "Line Number Portability Fee," which the government allows the carriers to collect, but does not mandate (and the revenue goes to the carrier, not the government).

On the other hand, sales tax, the Universal Service Fee, etc. all go to the government. It's important that we be able to see just how much tax is being assessed if we're to keep control of our government.

Re:ETF is only 99 cents? (1)

LMacG (118321) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538611)

The administrative fee is going from 75 cents to 99 cents. Because of this change, you can get out of the contract without paying the ETF, which is in the neighborhood of $200.

Re:ETF is only 99 cents? (1)

DCstewieG (824956) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538647)

No, no. The administrative fee is going up to 99 cents. But the fee itself is irrelevant. The interest here is that because they changed the terms of the contract, you can cancel without paying the huge early termination fee. It's basically a loophole.

I thought ETFs were going away? (1)

timbck2 (233967) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538411)

Wasn't there a bill in Congress to eliminate early termination fees (or at least force carriers to pro-rate them)? What happened to that? (As if I had to ask -- I'm sure the lobbyists got their way.)

Re:I thought ETFs were going away? (3, Informative)

untorqued (957628) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538469)

The major carriers pre-empted the legislation by switching to prorated ETFs. For example, my last Verizon contract had a $175 ETF, which decreased by $5 for each month you're in the contract. Still a considerable hit even if you're only a few months from the end. Just enough to keep congress at bay, I guess.

Re:I thought ETFs were going away? (2, Informative)

JohnSearle (923936) | more than 5 years ago | (#26541385)

Not that I want to admit this, but I'm working for Sprint (temporarily) as a corporate rep. The ETF are most definitely prorated, starting at $200 and going to a minimum of $50.

Just to let everyone know, you can also port your number without ETF within Sprint (ie: Sprint -> Boost Mobile). Boost Mobile doesn't have contracts... *hint* *hint*

- John

Expensive (0, Flamebait)

youthoftoday (975074) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538413)

$0.75 ... so that's seventy-five dollars?

Are we not nerds? (1)

Joe Snipe (224958) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538471)

This get out of contract free stuff happens roughly twice a year, and is mentioned extensively on appropriate sites. I am having a very hard time understanding how this is appropriate slashdot material.

That being said, I have never had a problem with sprint, and with the SERO plan, my bill is roughly the same as what I paid back in 1998.

Or... (1)

Junta (36770) | more than 5 years ago | (#26538531)

Leave sprint and come back in later for the decent stuff. I.e. by mid year they are supposed to have a handful of android devices and of course the palm pre. Leaving sprint and going for a month-to-month prepaid carrier may be appealing.

Confirmed! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26538727)

I just called Sprint and after being put on hold for about 5 minutes, the rep (Julie) removed the ETF and said that my service would discontinue after I ported my number to another service provider.

Just Terminated (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26538847)

I'd like to post a counter to some of the horror stories. I just now called *2 (following the options for contract modifications) and told them about the rate hike and that I wanted to leave the contract without the termination fee. The fellow on the phone agreed right away and was very pleasant as he took my information. He even kept my service open so I could transfer my number to a new carrier.

I just think it's worth pointing out that forum posts skew towards reporting the negative experiences, and it's worth point out that that's not always the case.

Now, I'm off to the apple store!

Phone is too personnal... (2, Insightful)

Kindaian (577374) | more than 5 years ago | (#26539099)

When using phone, you are talking, and so all your voice undertones are being served to the other side, and vice-versa.

That will make things harder to untangle, as they get more personal, some times too personal...

Chat doesn't have that issue, with the plus side of the reliability of information conveyed in that way... ;)

mod Up (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26539677)

just yet, but I'm Systems. The Gay up Today! If you bloc in order to

Won't change advertised price (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26540099)

Of course, they'll still advertise your plan as $35.99 even though there are now $20 worth of fees you have to pay on top of that.

Yay! I'm free! (1)

xombo (628858) | more than 5 years ago | (#26540485)

I'm finally free from that awful Sprint Data plan with my PC Card.
The first month was great. 2+ Mbps.
After I was unable to cancel my contract within the "trial balloon", speeds dropped to 100Kbps--on a good day!
I've been shelling out money for this UNTIL NOW.
I called them up, had to bark at the customer retention rep as he claimed that they couldn't waive it because they can do what they want neener-neener-neener take this $10 line item discount and be happy! And finally, after must protest, they cut me loose.

Just be forceful and adamant about it!

Halelujah (1)

DaMattster (977781) | more than 5 years ago | (#26541089)

I am free! Sprint's service in the Greater Phoenix Metro area is abyssmal. Calls drop as often as they go through.

Easy. (1)

dmizer (1081799) | more than 5 years ago | (#26541381)

I was able to terminate my 2 year contract (after one year) with Sprint for no charge. I just told them I was moving out of their service area. I assume this technique would work with other carriers (landline included) as well. This was about 4 years ago though ... YMMV.
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