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New Open Source FPS Blood Frontier Shows Promise

Soulskill posted more than 5 years ago | from the but-can-i-bunny-hop dept.

First Person Shooters (Games) 242

Softhaus writes "The guys at Blood Frontier have been busy for the last two years working on a new FPS called (surprise) Blood Frontier . This game is an enhanced Cube 2 engine with original artwork and new gameplay (including a kid-mode, which optionally turns off the blood — a nice option for a change). Add the new paintball mode and you have a real 'game community' here. The code is all there (complete for you to play with), the team listens to feedback from the community, and the game is great! It's nice to see these talented guys showing a true free software attitude. They've mentioned that the first actual release is scheduled for next Friday. Does anyone know of other great open source games that are truly 'open?'"

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Alphabetical_list_of_open_source_games (5, Informative)

MRe_nl (306212) | more than 5 years ago | (#26623931)

Re:Alphabetical_list_of_open_source_games (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26624055)

Never forget, computers are wonderful tools, but for most subjects students learn at that point in their lives (middle/high school in the US), computers aren't necessary. [zoy.org] Think about the primary subjects - Math, Science, and Literature/Writing - where do you see the benefits in using computers? Obviously for English classes, having access to computers to type papers is handy, but it's hardly necessary. Computers can be used in math to help illustrate concepts, but you don't want the students using computers to do their work, otherwise they won't know how to do it without them. And much of science is math - again, not something you want students using computers for.

(This is mfh [slashdot.org] posting as AC for oblivious reasons)

Re:Alphabetical_list_of_open_source_games (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26624801)

Parent is a link to last measure.

Re:Alphabetical_list_of_open_source_games (5, Interesting)

gambino21 (809810) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624125)

I see the list has a screenshot for Battle for Wesnoth. I started playing it a couple months ago when it was mentioned here on Slashdot, and it's really fun. It's a turn based strategy which is maybe not as intense as a RTS or FPS. But it's perfect for me because I have young kids and frequently get interrupted, so I need a game that I walk away from without messing up the game.

Re:Alphabetical_list_of_open_source_games (3, Interesting)

ShieldW0lf (601553) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624201)

Check out the High Seas add on. It's like Sid Meyer's Pirates! meets Wesnoth.

Re:Alphabetical_list_of_open_source_games (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26624315)

Check out the High Seas add on. It's like Sid Meyer's Pirates! meets Wesnoth.

It's like Penis! meets Vagina.

Re:Alphabetical_list_of_open_source_games (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26624399)

It's like Penis! meets Vagina.

It's like Yo Momma! meets a Crack Dealer.

Re:Alphabetical_list_of_open_source_games (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26625831)

not to worry. She already met him and that is how he came about.

Re:Alphabetical_list_of_open_source_games (2, Informative)

bky1701 (979071) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624871)

TOME [t-o-m-e.net] is a very good game as well, if you can handle totally keyboard interfaces. It is similar to nethack, but has more of the things you'd expect from a typical modern RPG. It has a (very dated) graphics mode or text. Only problem is probably the difficulty, you'll die a lot first starting out. Enable the cheat death option until you get the hang of it; it'll make the game much more fun.

Re:Alphabetical_list_of_open_source_games (1)

Anonymous Cowpat (788193) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625579)

I like Wesnoth, but whenever I start to get into it and feel "hey, this is a really well put together, prefessional-quality game" something monumentally stupid happens, and all the warm fuzzy feeling that I had towards it fades away into thinking "another open-source project that hasn't quite made it".

Re:Alphabetical_list_of_open_source_games (2)

Spice Consumer (1367497) | more than 5 years ago | (#26626059)

I'm a huge fan of Turn-based strategy and I've never heard of this. Just wanted to say thanks for giving me something to try when I get home.

The (surprise) first post frontier (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26623935)

Slashvertisements for everyone (including a kids mode which turns off the blood and a painball mode where you can astroturf with your friends).

Re:The (surprise) first post frontier (2, Funny)

kandela (835710) | more than 5 years ago | (#26623959)

If you turn off the blood, is it still called Blood Frontier?

Re:The (surprise) first post frontier (2, Funny)

seeker_1us (1203072) | more than 5 years ago | (#26623987)

If you turn off the blood, is it still called Blood Frontier?

Maybe it should be called "Blood-Lite?"

Re:The (surprise) first post frontier (5, Funny)

jggimi (1279324) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625061)

Maybe it should be called "Blood-Lite?"

I can just see the ad campaign comparing Blood-Lite to Killer-Lite.

"Tases Great!"

"Less Spilling!"

Three vampires walk into a bar (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 5 years ago | (#26626389)

Three vampires walk into a bar:
  1. I'll have a glass of blood.
  2. I'll have what he's having.
  3. A glass of plasma please.

Bartender: "So that'll be two bloods and a blood light."

Re:The (surprise) first post frontier (5, Funny)

Hordeking (1237940) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624211)

If you turn off the blood, is it still called Blood Frontier?

No, then it's just called Frontier, and it becomes about a family traveling from Independence, Mo to Oregon.

Re:The (surprise) first post frontier (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26624429)

Unless you die from dysentery. Then it's only from Independence, MO to Kansas City.

Re:The (surprise) first post frontier (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26624447)

Maybe plasma frontier?

Re:The (surprise) first post frontier (1)

moranar (632206) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624453)

Well, it could be the other side of the frontier, couldn't it?

Re:The (surprise) first post frontier (1)

V!NCENT (1105021) | more than 5 years ago | (#26626053)

Blood pumping action? :')

Re:The (surprise) first post frontier (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26623965)

The author of the game is the submitter, so yes, you're correct.

furst post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26623947)

me furst

Everybody Hates Jews (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26623953)

I wish there was a first person shooter where all you did was shoot hook-nosed kikes.

Re:Everybody Hates Jews (0, Troll)

grub (11606) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624017)


There's a game called Ethnic Cleansing [resistance.com] you may find to your liking.
Never played it, just remember the stir it caused when it came out.

Hoorah (-1, Redundant)

seeker_1us (1203072) | more than 5 years ago | (#26623955)

And the page is already slashdotted.

first post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26623963)

First post and it is already slashdotted.

Slashdotted (4, Funny)

Yuioup (452151) | more than 5 years ago | (#26623969)

Slashdotted already. Should give an indication of how desperate /. ers are for a new FOSS FPS.

Re:Slashdotted (0, Troll)

SpitfireSMS (1388089) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624119)

Or the kind of servers that open source software companies can buy and manage. Or should I say server..
Unfortunately, they dont have a huge repetour of games and donations to fund better servers.
They never stood a chance against /.

Re:Slashdotted (4, Insightful)

furby076 (1461805) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625297)

Or that FOSS lacks the funds to have a server which can handle the load.

It's great they are doing this - but in the end the project needs funding to get huge - otherwise it is a hobby for the technical folk (with rare exception).

With luck these guys will use this on their resume', get great jobs, and help make some great products. I know someone will flame me, and 5 others will mod me down - but think about it. WoW costs money (all three expansions = about 75-100 probably), then it's 14.95 a month. Not free at all - but look at the game. It's been out since what 2002 and still the most played game with the largest base of paid accounts. None of that could not happen if the resources were not in place, and resources are limited which means they cost money.

Duke Nukem Forever.... (3, Funny)

John3 (85454) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624001)

because the release date is open-ended?

Re:Duke Nukem Forever.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26626247)

No, no, OP asked about open SOURCE games.

Re:Duke Nukem Forever.... (1)

WWWWolf (2428) | more than 5 years ago | (#26626345)

because the release date is open-ended?

And since no one knows what the heck the game will be like - if you don't like the over-inflated expectations of what this game will be, you can always fork the ideas and add your own! Like this: "Yeah, I'm sure it won't hurt 3DRealms to spend a few more years to add sharks with lasers to DNF... it would be so awesome!" After that, the users will decide whether this sharks-with-lasers fan vision of the game's future will live on, or die out.

Perhaps some of these forked visions could even form a significant vein in the pre-release history of the game! (Though I wonder if once the game is released, people still talk about the Great Sharks-With-Lasers Debate of Early 2009.)

cool (2, Funny)

ocularDeathRay (760450) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624011)

not only is there an option to turn off blood, but you can turn off the web server too!

Re:cool (1)

Hordeking (1237940) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624521)

not only is there an option to turn off blood, but you can turn off the web server too!

They implemented blood with a server? Wow. I'll have to edit inetd.conf to crank up bloodd now! What port do I need?

And? (5, Insightful)

Rik Sweeney (471717) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624041)

So what makes this online FPS stand out from all the other ones?

There's Nexuiz, OpenArena, Sauerbraten, Tremulous, Urban Terror... I had my fill of first person shooters years ago and yet for some reason they're still being developed and offer little to nothing different over the last one.

Re:And? (5, Funny)

diqmay (773248) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624209)

There's Nexuiz, OpenArena, Sauerbraten, Tremulous, Urban Terror... I had my fill of first person shooters years ago and yet for some reason they're still being developed

Hey everybody! Rik has had his fill of FPSs! You can stop developing them now.

Thanks for letting us know, otherwise I'm sure game developers would have kept on making them without realizing that you didn't want them to.

Re:And? (5, Funny)

_Sprocket_ (42527) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624523)

Thanks for letting us know, otherwise I'm sure game developers would have kept on making them without realizing that you didn't want them to.

Uwe Boll, however, will continue creating movies based on them.

Re:And? (1)

Theoboley (1226542) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625127)

I cannot wait to see this shitbag of a movie if it gets that far. Everything he touches turns to pure Diarrhea.

Re:And? (1)

Phoenixhawk (1188721) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625293)

Sad but true...

Re:And? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26626331)

Uwe Boll, however, will continue creating movies based on them.

From this I can only conclude that Rik likes Uwe Boll movies!

Great! Thanks a lot Rik! Thanks a lot!

Re:And? (5, Funny)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625257)

Wait what??? Rik has had his fill? DAMMIT! why did he not tell everyone earlier. We have been working on this new one for 2 years now.

DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT... I hate it when Rik slacks off and does not announce hs is full on public television.

WE know he is tired of Hot-dogs, Loves Obama, and Is starting to grow tire of the word "albanian" but that asshat did not mention ONCE in his last press conference he had his fill of FPS games.

What a hoser. Let me guess, He's had his fill of racing games as well, I better warn the guys down the hall.

Damn Rik.

Re:And? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26624335)

According to google images,

Image Links to their game [google.com] ,

More poor use of light/bump/normal mapping. I, however, can't rail on them too much. I know good artists and artwork can be a challenge to find on an open source project.

Re:And? (5, Insightful)

wild_quinine (998562) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624677)

So what makes this online FPS stand out from all the other ones? There's Nexuiz, OpenArena, Sauerbraten, Tremulous, Urban Terror... I had my fill of first person shooters years ago and yet for some reason they're still being developed and offer little to nothing different over the last one.

I don't know why this guy got modded Troll. Wanting to know what's different about a title is a perfectly valid question. Especially in a -recently- unadventurous genre, such as the FPS. As is being bored of a genre a perfectly valid statement, when taken in that context. Sure, if he's just shown up to announce that he didn't care about FPS games, that wouldn't have added much. But 'What's different?' is really the question 'Why should I care?' and that's a perfectly fair question to ask.

The main site's been slashdotted, all we've got is the summary, and the only real selling point mentioned there is that it's open source. If that's enough for you, sure, fine, ok. But for me open source is a BONUS, not a panacea.

Interesting side note: I know one of the main designers of Tremulous through an old friend. Nice guy, drives an utterly crazy car.

Re:And? (0, Offtopic)

causality (777677) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625171)

I don't know why this guy got modded Troll.

Because that's how fallen people (i.e. bullies) get their jollies. Sometimes one might think that no Slashdot moderator has ever seen an actual troll because they seem to have a very hard time telling the difference between a troll and a very unpopular opinion. What's funny is that if they mod me down for saying so and thus prove my point, they would do so hoping that it shuts me up and intimidates me into not pointing this out (they see that I am not a bully so they assume I must be a coward because those two things are all they know; in fact I am neither). It's funny because if they work to make my point for me, it would really be utterly hilarious but I may have a higher than average appreciation of irony.

Re:And? (1)

nextekcarl (1402899) | more than 5 years ago | (#26626353)

At this point, he is modded +4 Interesting, so (I think) you just needed to give it some time. And the way his post was written, it was pretty easy to see it as condescending. Heck, it might have even been intended that way (I don't know the guy myself) and since the server is down, it is much easier to make jokes about that than it is to actually answer his (valid) question. Maybe nothing is really different. Maybe these guys just wanted to do something on their own to truly understand it? I wish I knew, but again, the server seems to still be down at the moment.

Re:And? (1)

parcel (145162) | more than 5 years ago | (#26626185)

I don't know why this guy got modded Troll. Wanting to know what's different about a title is a perfectly valid question.

I'm gonna hazard a guess that the Troll mod was related more to the part after the ellipsis rather than the part before.

Re:And? (1, Interesting)

causality (777677) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624771)

So what makes this online FPS stand out from all the other ones?

There's Nexuiz, OpenArena, Sauerbraten, Tremulous, Urban Terror... I had my fill of first person shooters years ago and yet for some reason they're still being developed and offer little to nothing different over the last one.

I think you weren't trolling and were merely stating your opinion. The mods and one poster (who was also rewarded by the mods -- do you see the self-reinforcing nature of derision?) have effectively ridiculed you because it was very easy to do. You may not have known it but you stuck your neck out and they gleefully took a swing at it. They don't know they are making a statement about themselves and the appeal that low-hanging fruit has over them, as you may not know that this was predictable given how limited their prevailing mentality is.

What I believe you were really saying is something I mostly agree with, which is why that's easy for me to recognize. I remember when the original DOOM came out. I played the hell out of it. Somewhere after DOOM ][, I got tired of first-person shooters in general. The appeal that those had for me, which was a fast-paced challenge and a gritty environment with blood (not so unique now), was not a lasting appeal. What was a fast-paced challenge becomes repetitive gameplay and what was a realistic, gritty environment with blood got old quickly and no longer seemed more immersive. I can play almost any first-person shooter and feel this way about it. The weapons look different and the enemies look different from game to game but otherwise it has the exact same effect on me, an effect which has lost its novelty.

What's odd for me is that the one exception to this, that is, the one FPS game that I have played (though do not own myself) is Halo 3. I'm referring to the actual campaign missions; the online "deathmatch" play is no fun for me because there is no way I can invest the time to become as good as the kids who don't have jobs. I'm not sure if it's the AI or something about the game mechanics but I really have fun playing it, and that's saying something since I am no fan of MIcrosoft and I don't precisely make a secret of that fact. Generally though, I do agree with you about FPS as a genre.

Re:And? (1)

V!NCENT (1105021) | more than 5 years ago | (#26626173)

Prey. Play it and complete the game. It has a Linux client too and it's the best FPS, no... game I have played in years.

N64 games look more visually impressive (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26624137)

OSS gaming = laughable

Softcoder (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26624181)

I think (as the article mentions) the game reaches out to a broader audience through the ability to offer choices in gameplay. Nice that the code isn't partially hoarded and completely available for community involvement. To me that is very different from many other options.

Blood optional (1)

Idiomatick (976696) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624197)

I never understood the purpose of this. If it is for children then what is the rational behind it? If it is just to help children differentiate from real-life traumas then I advocate the extra-blood option. It is not likely someone will get fragged and it rain blood for two minutes irl. Either way the whole idea is silly. Like showing kids a movie with someone being tortured and censoring the cuts. It doesn't affect anything.

Re:Blood optional (1)

Thanshin (1188877) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624349)

Like showing kids a movie with someone being tortured and censoring the cuts. It doesn't affect anything.

Unless it's the chinese thousand cuts torture.

In which case you end up with just two guys looking at each other.

Re:Blood optional (1)

gnick (1211984) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624599)

Agreed. Next thing we know, they'll be editting old movies [wikipedia.org] to replace the cops' guns with walkie-talkies. Where will it end?

Re:Blood optional (5, Interesting)

moderatorrater (1095745) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624767)

I appreciate those options for myself. I remember with TA: Kingdoms turning off the blood because my archers would shoot a guy so many times that blood would be spurting out nonstop, which I found gross at the time. Same with the gore in the original UT. I can see parents appreciating that in addition to people who just don't like gore.

Also, if you do paintball mode it turns it from a game where you're killing people to a game where it's just some guys playing paintball. Does it change the gameplay? Of course not, but it does change the entire frame of reference for the violence in the game. I can see that being desirable for parents and I think it's a great idea. My friend and I were talking about how they should do something along the lines of Unreal Tournament: Nerf Edition, where all the guns are nerf guns.

Just because you don't care doesn't mean that parents don't care.

Re:Blood optional (-1, Flamebait)

causality (777677) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625419)

Also, if you do paintball mode it turns it from a game where you're killing people to a game where it's just some guys playing paintball. Does it change the gameplay? Of course not, but it does change the entire frame of reference for the violence in the game. I can see that being desirable for parents and I think it's a great idea.

I think a more specific definition of "parents" that answers the question of "what kind of parents?" would be edifying here.

That paintball mode is not desirable for all parents. It's desirable for parents who feel good about sheltering their children from the world instead of equipping their children to deal with the world (and maybe, just maybe, to build a better world). By extension it's desirable for parents who don't know the difference, too.

Does that mean that little Johnny should go see the Roman Colosseum? No, you twit (not you personally, but anyone who would respond that way). Now you're going from one extreme to the other because you were overreacting the whole time and thus, extremes are all you knew. The allure of things like violence and other "forbidden fruits" is the big deal we make out of them. It's an excitement that becomes attached to the thing itself that is not inherent to the thing itself.

The opposite of making a big deal of everything is to talk to little Johnny and say "that's violence, this is why it's wrong and doesn't lead to health and harmony and happiness, ok?" and then MOVE ON. Then it's possible to appreciate a fictional work that happens to have violence. Then it's also possible to live in an infinite universe with so many possibilities you could never hope to exhaust them in a single lifetime without having the same problems come up again and again and again, the way this issue comes up every time a violent video game is released.

Re:Blood optional (3, Interesting)

hitnrunrambler (1401521) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624795)

I don't know what the purpose is, but I have to say I like the option personally. Does blood spatter enhance the game for you? Then go for it, but for my taste many gore effects just help to juvenilize most games; it's like endless penis jokes in an Adam Sandler movie, if I had the option to turn off "13 year old mode" I'd actually be able to enjoy the experience.

Paintball is silly (1)

Brain-Fu (1274756) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625049)

I think the paintball mode is equally silly.

Paintball is a game that mimics a gunfight, even though no actual weapons are involved (assuming we classify paintball guns as toys, and not projectile weapons).

Virtual shooters are all games that mimic a gunfight, even though no actual weapons are involved (assuming we classify desk chairs as furniture, and not projectile weapons).

They are already the same thing. The bloody FPS is a metaphor for a gunfight. The splattery paintball sport is a metaphor for a gunfight. So we make a metaphor for a metaphor for a gunfight, and somehow that makes it ok?

People are weird.

Lets welcome them .. (1)

max909 (619312) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624199)

by posting the news on Slashdot and /.ing their site down to the Bloody knees

Tremulous (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26624207)

One word: tremulous.

Re:Tremulous (1)

Thiez (1281866) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624781)

I played Trem for a while, but it has some problems, some of which are not that hard to fix. To name one, all players on the human team have the same model/skin/voice.
The graphics are kinda old which wouldn't bother me that much if it weren't for the samewhat disappointing gameplay. Humans tend to camp a lot until they get enough kills for stage 3, and one or two feeders on your team can make you lose the game easily. Also, deconners suck.

"Add the new paintball mode ..." (5, Insightful)

qoncept (599709) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624251)

"Add the new paintball mode ..."

I mean, seriously. Why? Why take a game where you pretend to shoot people and modify it so you are pretending to pretend to shoot people?

Re:"Add the new paintball mode ..." (5, Funny)

whisper_jeff (680366) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624321)

Because imaginary violence is bad for young and impressionable minds but imaginary imaginary violence is ok for children.

Ok, I admit, that answer wasn't helpful at all... I did my best though... :)

Re:"Add the new paintball mode ..." (1)

digitalderbs (718388) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625143)

If I've learned anything from school, it's that two imaginaries are definitely negative. Four on the other hand...

I think they should go the OTHER route.... (1)

gosand (234100) | more than 5 years ago | (#26626397)

and have "kid mode" teach them the reality of violence. If you are playing the game and you get killed, it does a "sudo rm -rf /" on your system.

Re:"Add the new paintball mode ..." (5, Funny)

Thanshin (1188877) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624381)

Why take a game where you pretend to shoot people and modify it so you are pretending to pretend to shoot people?

To teach recursion?

World of World of Warcraft (4, Funny)

billlava (1270394) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624623)

This reminds me of an Onion video [theonion.com] that showed a sequel to WoW called World of World of Warcraft that let your characters buy and play WoW themselves. I got a kick out of it, but then again, I'm not a WoW player...

Re:"Add the new paintball mode ..." (1)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624703)

hehe, that was funny :)

Re:"Add the new paintball mode ..." (1)

_Sprocket_ (42527) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624595)

I don't know if you've ever played paintball, but when you play you really ARE shooting people. There's no pretend.

Re:"Add the new paintball mode ..." (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26624765)

No, you're just painting them.

Re:"Add the new paintball mode ..." (1)

_Sprocket_ (42527) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625267)

No. You see, you have these things called "paintguns." You aim them at the opponent, pull a trigger, and if you're aim is good (and the gun isn't crap, the paint isn't crap, the wind doesn't pick up, and there's not a stray branch you didn't see between the two of you), you hit them. That's commonly referred to as "shooting."

OK - sure. You can call it "painting" as well if you really want to. But that's ignoring the actual mechanics of the equipment used (which shouldn't be confused with most painting that involves a brush).

Re:"Add the new paintball mode ..." (1)

jandrese (485) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625003)

Maybe it behaves like real paintball, where after you shoot someone instead of falling down they walk out of the map.

Or, if you're like the punk kids at my local range, after you're shot you walk behind a building and being playing again.

Re:"Add the new paintball mode ..." (1)

_Sprocket_ (42527) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625133)

You probably need to hotkey a macro that goes "Chekkitbuddy! Chekkit! Chekkit!"

Re:"Add the new paintball mode ..." (1)

Phoenixhawk (1188721) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625379)

And paintball in wintertime probably hurt just as much as the real gun shot in a non-vital location. Note to self, do not let the wife freeze her paintballs next time....

Re:"Add the new paintball mode ..." (1)

jandoedel (1149947) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624705)

maybe in paintball mode people don't 'die', and can continue playing, while in real FPS, when you die it's game over?

Re:"Add the new paintball mode ..." (1)

jonaskoelker (922170) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624875)

Why take a game [...] and modify it so you are pretending to pretend to [...]

Let's say you can play the guitar and pretend you're a rock star.

Then you play GH and pretend you play the guitar, so you pretend that you pretend you're a rock star.

Why? Because people like it. Or, if you prefer: because it sells well, and it sells well because people like it.

World of Padman is a quite fun FPS where you shoot paint, among other things. Granted, it's in a cartoony setting in the first place, so the paint fits in, but I'm not convinced it wouldn't be fun to shoot pretend paint at pretend real people.

I guess trying it out is the only way to be sure. Why dis it prematurely? Or are you just pretending to dis it? ;)

YAFPS (-1, Offtopic)

LingNoi (1066278) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624269)

Yet another open source FPS.. like we didn't have enough already. :(

Unfortunately Obligatory... (1)

longhairedgnome (610579) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624357)

How good can it really be if it's server can't handle a simple slashdotting after only 25 posts...

Here is the cache.. http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:ORDt8YILNcwJ:bloodfrontier.com/+blood+frontier&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a [74.125.47.132]

Re:Unfortunately Obligatory... (1)

longhairedgnome (610579) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624553)

And... Very much redundant...

Battle City (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26624363)

Another free game you might like to check out is Battle City. You build a city, hire commandos (real-people), and orb other cities to gain rank. http://battlecity.looble.com/ [looble.com]

AssaultCube FPS (3, Informative)

adrian.henke (852642) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624591)

Another FOSS FPS? Check out AssaultCube [cubers.net] , description from the website:

AssaultCube, formerly ActionCube, is a free first-person-shooter based on the game Cube. Set in a realistic looking environment, as far as that's possible with this engine, while gameplay stays fast and arcade. This game is all about team oriented multiplayer fun.

War$ow then? (1)

e-Flex (1219042) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624645)

What about her? http://www.warsow.net/ [warsow.net]

Re:War$ow then? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26625099)

Warsow isn't open source.

Re:War$ow then? (1)

windsurfer619 (958212) | more than 5 years ago | (#26626257)

Yes it is. It's just the models and art that are not.

Kid mode? (4, Insightful)

nine-times (778537) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624737)

including a kid-mode, which optionally turns off the blood â" a nice option for a change

Why is it that people think turning off blood makes things "kid friendly"? Are you still running around killing people?

I'm not the sort of person who's a big believe in sheltering children, but if you are that sort of person, does simply censoring blood make the game OK to play? I think if I were the sort of parent that didn't want my kids to play violent games, then censoring a little gore wouldn't really make them acceptable.

On the other hand, some parents are a little crazy, so whatever. I just think it's weird to censor blood out of a FPS called "Blood Frontier", and then call it "kid mode".

Re:Kid mode? (1)

jadbalja (106780) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624911)

I just think it's weird to censor blood out of a FPS called "Blood Frontier", and then call it "kid mode".

When you turn on kid mode, the game is just called "Frontier".

Re:Kid mode? (3, Insightful)

MrMista_B (891430) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625073)

Um, maybe because you're *not actually* running around 'killing people'.

It's a videogame. No people are being killed. The 'pretend people' that you're 'shooting at' (pressing a butting to make a graphic appear), are not actually real people, and they are not actually being injuired, maimed, or killed.

So, to begin with, how is it violent?

Re:Kid mode? (1)

LandDolphin (1202876) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625221)

Is "Beat your Wife III" for the X-Box 360 not violent?

/obviously made up title

Re:Kid mode? (1)

Abuzar (732558) | more than 5 years ago | (#26626239)

including a kid-mode, which optionally turns off the blood is a nice option for a change

Why is it that people think turning off blood makes things "kid friendly"?

DUHHH!!! Isn't it obvious?
Turning off blood makes things "kid friendly" because kids don't bleed! Don't believe me? Go ahead, try it yourself. You can run around and kill a whole whack of them without ruining your carpet.

Are you still running around killing people?

Nope, you're not killing people. Only kids.

Firs7 4ost (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26624935)

But.., (5, Interesting)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 5 years ago | (#26624975)

... is the server still that horribly unsafe bare-bones packet-switch, that it is in Cube 2?

For those that don't know the details: The "server" of Cube 2 (Sauerbraten) is really basically just sending update packages around. No rules/physics validation, server simulation, or cheat checking of any kind. This, and the fact that it is open source, made it possible for every noob with a bit of C/C++-knowledge, to change some rules, and cheat like crazy.
I played it for some months, and saw people flying around, beaming themselves to where they liked it, completely defeating game physics, and making every shot a perfekt hit.

If this is not fixed, there is no reason to play that game, because you can't determine a winner anyway. (Or is it going to become a contest of the greatest hackers? ;)

Re:But.., (1)

adrian.henke (852642) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625625)

Yes, the Cube2 engine has still a lot of client-side logic. And No, it does not matter.

See, it does NOT matter if the logic is client or (as you prefer) server side. Because as long as the game is opensource, there are ways to cheat. That's a fact.

If you don't believe me, think about hacks like: wallhacks, respawn-timers, aimbots, enemy-radar, etc. How do you want to combat this by pushing the logic to the server? This is opensource, its easy to hack no matter what you do..

FPS fun is a delicate balance (2, Interesting)

stokessd (89903) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625017)

I've played a lot of FPS' up to Unreal2004, and some are clearly better than others. There's the obvious map features, like size vs. player number, overall layout, wall design with hiding places, etc. And that's not even counting the artistic side of texture mapping and making it look interesting.

But the player dynamics, and weapon characteristics combine to subtly change the intensity/speed of the game. For example the archaic Marathon was very slow due to show shot speed comparatively weak weapons. Quake III has much stronger weapons making distances seem shorter due to the killing power.

Unreal has a great balance, of player speed, map size and weapon strength/diversity that makes it consistently fun to play. It also has reasonably good AI for the bots. This balance seems to be elusive in FPS, as there are so few who really get it right, and you can see that in the communities they spawn.

I hope these OSS projects can match the balance of a great FPS even if they don't have the deep pockets or manpower to spend on visually stunning maps.

Sheldon

someone will have a blood hack (1)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625057)

This game is an enhanced Cube 2 engine with original artwork and new gameplay (including a kid-mode, which optionally turns off the blood -- a nice option for a change).

Slackers. Our media's had that feature for years.

UFO: Alien Invasion (1)

Talar (1245824) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625459)

Speaking of other open games, take a look at this:
http://ufoai.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]

Urban Terror (1)

chord.wav (599850) | more than 5 years ago | (#26625923)

I've said it a millon times, here's one more.

Urban terror (http://www.urbanterror.net/ [urbanterror.net] ) is Counter Strike, less realistic, more fun. Runs in Linux, MacOSX and Windows. Check it out.

Disable The BLOOOOOOD (0, Redundant)

Tarlus (1000874) | more than 5 years ago | (#26626395)

...including a kid-mode, which optionally turns off the blood -- a nice option for a change...

This version of the game is called "Frontier".

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