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Obama Looking To Symantec CEO For Commerce

CmdrTaco posted more than 5 years ago | from the fear-monger-your-way-to-the-top dept.

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patentpundit writes "Word has started to circulate that President Barack Obama may be close to appointing John W. Thompson, the outgoing chief executive of network security firm Symantec Corp., to be the next Secretary of Commerce. According to the LA Times, over the last several days Thompson has spoken on the telephone and met with key senators, and Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), a member of the commerce committee that would hold confirmation hearings for any appointed Secretary of Commerce, is 'extremely supportive and hopeful he'll be the nominee.' The appointment of Thompson to head the Department of Commerce would be an exceptionally interesting choice given that only days ago President Obama asked Scott McNealy, a co-founder of Sun Microsystems, to lead his open source charge and conduct a study and report back regarding the feasibility of the US government forgoing proprietary software and moving toward open source software solutions."

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Guilty of supplying Parasitic bloatware (5, Insightful)

Finallyjoined!!! (1158431) | more than 5 years ago | (#26638831)

Is his track record so far.

What can we now expect?

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Other industry associations (4, Informative)

gravos (912628) | more than 5 years ago | (#26638931)

Thompson had a career at the IBM Corporation and serves as a director on the corporate boards of UPS and Seagate Technology.

Re:Other industry associations (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26639029)

Did you just say Seagate? You know, THAT Seagate?

Re:Other industry associations (5, Funny)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639221)

Thompson had a career at ... Seagate Technology.

OMFG! Nobody reboot ANYTHING at the Dept. of Commerce!

Re:Guilty of supplying Parasitic bloatware (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26639195)

Is his track record so far.

What can we now expect?

Dude, that's a great resume for a government bureaucrat.

Re:Guilty of supplying Parasitic bloatware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26639399)

Symantec software sucks balls. Maybe it is this guy's fault, maybe not.

Obama certainly has made quite a few strange nominations so far... :-/

Re:Guilty of supplying Parasitic bloatware (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26640431)

Then he's a perfect choice for the new all-Democratic government.

Re:Guilty of supplying Parasitic bloatware (0, Flamebait)

cream wobbly (1102689) | more than 5 years ago | (#26640549)

Well you have to admit, he's got a pretty good handle on this "commerce" thing. Someone from Apple could have been chosen, too. They share a business philosophy, of creating demand in a niche market for something you didn't think you needed, and you don't, but you think you do. Some people wish they were smarter after buying such products.

Re:Guilty of supplying Parasitic bloatware (1)

kwandar (733439) | more than 5 years ago | (#26640655)

Hey!! It tool a lot of work to make a not bad Anti-virus parasitic bloat wear!! He should be congratulated for having exceeded beyond anything anyone outside of MS could have conceived!

Re:Guilty of supplying Parasitic bloatware (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#26640861)

Symantec antivirus products not reporting NSA developed spyware?

Paranoids and conspiracy believers unite!

Re:Guilty of supplying Parasitic bloatware (1)

StikyPad (445176) | more than 5 years ago | (#26640887)

Anybody that can not only get people to PAY for that shite, but maintain a thriving business based on it, obviously has some skills in commerce.

Re:Guilty of supplying Parasitic bloatware (5, Funny)

couchslug (175151) | more than 5 years ago | (#26640939)

"What can we now expect?"

A Department of Commerce that adds positions throughout government which affect essential services and are difficult to remove without system damage?

Re:Guilty of supplying Parasitic bloatware (1)

jslaff (881873) | more than 5 years ago | (#26641047)

Most Commerce secretaries come in thinking the job is entirely trade, but close to 40 percent of Commerce's budget is NOAA. Q: What's the first thing a Commerce secretary says when he's confirmed? A: "Fish?"

Oh great- (5, Funny)

FredFredrickson (1177871) | more than 5 years ago | (#26638839)

The first thing he'll do is Root the country- for our own protection. We won't be able to do anything once he's in. He'll screw everything up, and won't leave when we ask him to. We'll need to find a special force of people to go in and remove him manually.

Worst of all, he won't even fix any problems while he's there, and we'll end up calling his competitors to fix the problem later.

Re:Oh great- (5, Funny)

Jedi Alec (258881) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639027)

We won't be able to do anything once he's in. He'll screw everything up, and won't leave when we ask him to. We'll need to find a special force of people to go in and remove him manually.

Actually he might be a blessing in disguise. After 4 years of this guy, the only hope for the USA will be repartitioning the country and then a swift reinstall of the operating system. Looks like the hardcore liberalists will get their wishes after all ;-)

Re:Oh great- (3, Funny)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639265)

...and who's to say that he won't be productive while in office! I'm looking forward to his hourly TV and radio address broadcast over all channels:

John W. Thompson: "Hi, I'm interrupting your regularly scheduled programming to let you know that your commerce is safe."
average American: "&*%^&$&* how do I turn this damn thing off?!"
John W. Thompson: "YOUR COMMERCE is SAFE, DAMMIT!"
average American: "^$%^#$*%%"

Re:Oh great- (1)

lytles (24756) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639655)

hardcore "liberalists" ?

i wasn't familiar with the term so i googled it, and mw says:

1: the quality or state of being liberal
2 (a) often capitalized : a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing intellectual liberty and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianity (b) a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard (c) a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties (d) capitalized : the principles and policies of a Liberal party

2c sounds a lot like the american libertarian party. i'm assuming that this is what you meant. if so, why did you use "liberalist" - does it include parties similar to but distinct from the libertarian party ? if not, what did you mean

fwiw, i agree with portions of the libertarian platform. as for reinstalling the os ... let me think about it :)

Re:Oh great- (2, Insightful)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639857)

Libertarian is a political party.

liberalism is an ideology.

The presence of another party that shares views is irrelevent, if you are not a partisan Libertarian, but share liberalist ideas, then you are liberalist, not a Libertarian.

Re:Oh great- (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26640345)

Libertarian is a political party. liberalism is an ideology.

I think the confusion arises from the shift of idealogies over time - Libertarians have more in common with conservative small-government views than with "liberal" views. The movement in recent years of (some of) the conservatives in the US (at least) towards stronger centralized government and government enforcement of social views (previous "liberal" positions) can only further the confusion.

Not to mention "liberalist" vs "liberal". I think confusion is justified.

Re:Oh great- (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 5 years ago | (#26640473)

Wouldn't a true libertarian (lowercase "l") eschew the idea of parties?

Re:Oh great- (4, Funny)

Gilmoure (18428) | more than 5 years ago | (#26640761)

I like parties. I like to get drunk and take my pants off. Maybe start a fire or go yell at the dolphins at Sea World.

Re:Oh great- (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26639071)

Speaking as one with experience within the big yellow beast -- God help America! >8o

Re:Oh great- (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26641375)

a-fucking-men. this is a man who has literally stolen millions from shareholders via sec pre-arranged trading plans set up every quarter. if the quarter was good, the plan got cancelled. if its not the plan got executed. how was it legal? by cancelling the trade, no trade occurred and the sec can't prosecute on insider trading. the evidence is right there in the trade announcements (or lack thereof). can't wait to see what he'll do for america.

Re:Oh great- (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26639499)

Are you talking about Dubya? Well, for your information, he's out.

It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work (4, Insightful)

xzvf (924443) | more than 5 years ago | (#26638855)

CEO's are just part of the same thought elite recycling old ideas. Even ones that run technical companies. Stuff like this is only news when real reformers like RMS get cabinet appointments.

Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work (5, Funny)

liquidpele (663430) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639001)

Stuff like this is only news when real reformers like RMS get cabinet appointments.

I'm fairly certain that would be the start of the apocalypse.

Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work (2, Funny)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639627)

No! It will be the start of The Révolution!

Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26640755)

Call it what you want, but RMS is nuts in more ways that one.

Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work (4, Funny)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 5 years ago | (#26640461)

Isn't it called Gnupocalypse?

Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26640751)

Start now; run with the hurd!

Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26641247)

Actually, it will be the GNU World Order.

Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work (1)

javelinco (652113) | more than 5 years ago | (#26640937)

I hope so! After all, who'd want to live long enough to have to deal with the fallout?

Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work (1)

Timothy Brownawell (627747) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639139)

Stuff like this is only news when real reformers like RMS get cabinet appointments.

I thought we were supposed to keep religion [stallman.org] out of government?

Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26639249)

Fortunately in the same link you provided there's the following statement:

"Warning: taking the Church of Emacs (or any church) too seriously may be hazardous to your health."

Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26639401)

I like Richard Stallman. He is the best.

I think that every president should listen to Richard Stallman.

Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work (0, Flamebait)

4D6963 (933028) | more than 5 years ago | (#26640211)

Give me a break, RMS is an ideologist and a zealot. And a hippie. We're talking about government work here.

Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work (3, Insightful)

WindowlessView (703773) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639493)

CEO's are just part of the same thought elite recycling old ideas

Worse. Letting Scott McNealy lead an open source initiative is like putting the CEO of United Fruit Company in charge of campesino agrarian reform.

Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26640199)

Ha, excellent! But most readers of a thread like this won't get it.

Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work (2, Funny)

Gilmoure (18428) | more than 5 years ago | (#26640875)

Homer: "Why do you look like Caesar Romero?

Hallucination: "Because you do not know what Caesar Chavez looks like."

Re:It'll be news when he asks Stallman to work (1)

moosesocks (264553) | more than 5 years ago | (#26641461)

I'd rather Linus. He's proven himself to be a competent manager, gets things done, delegates tasks well, and doesn't make a fuss.

No offense to the guy, but RMS is a dirty hippie, and almost certainly a communist (not that there's anything necessarily wrong with that). Appointing him as Commerce Secretary would be grossly irresponsible.

It's not like what you're describing hasn't already happened -- Steven Chu, Obama's Secretary of Energy is an extremely accomplished scientist with some serious management credentials. I only wish there were more people like Chu to properly balance ideology with pragmatism.

w00t! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26638859)

JWT did an excelent job turning Symantec into a profitable corporation and expanding their protfolio!! This has my vote!!

Symantec tech support model (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26638905)

Hopefully John W. Thompson will not use the Symantec tech support model for Commerce. I base some of this negativity on support for what was Veritas. Symantec has dropped the ball on that.

First move will be... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26638917)

...revamping the legislation under the "Yes, we CAN-SPAM" slogan

Any explanation? (5, Interesting)

nine-times (778537) | more than 5 years ago | (#26638949)

I don't know about John W. Thompson, but my gut response to this was, "Could he look for someone who runs a company that doesn't suck?" Thompson might not be responsible, but *someone* has been running Symantec into the ground for several years now-- at least as far as product quality is concerned.

As far as technology goes, I'd be much more pleased if I felt like the administration were looking for people with pro-freedom and pro-consumer tendencies.

Re:Any explanation? (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639969)

Agreed, this guy fails on all counts.

He profiteered on scare scaremongering.

He ran a company that turns out crap (doing more harm than good to many computers).

The software is anti-consumer in it's behavior (e.g. deceptive un-install)

I bet there was some weird deal though. After the special exception to allow google to track visitors to the website (at a cost of $750,000 it appears), I pretty much assume he is wrapped up in similar (though hopefully not as bad) politics as other Illinois politicians.

Re:Any explanation? (1)

nine-times (778537) | more than 5 years ago | (#26640103)

allow google to track visitors to the website (at a cost of $750,000 it appears)

Any additional information on that? I'd read about the Youtube being allowed to store some kind of cookie, but from reading about it, I'd come to the impression that it just that Youtube movies automatically track certain things, and it would have become one of those "how do you omit someone from tracking without keeping track of them to know to omit them?" issues.

I'm just wondering if there's any more information out on that. It seemed kind of weird to me that the Whitehouse had chosen to use gmail for interim addresses and also chosen to use Youtube for video, but I hadn't heard anyone that was able to tie it together credibly into an actual conspiracy theory.

Symmantec out for the count (1)

furby076 (1461805) | more than 5 years ago | (#26638975)

Well if this guy gets in, according to Obamas decree this guy will not be allowed to tap them for projects for the gov't. I am sure this will not extend into existing contracts but this could prevent Symmantec from providing any contracts to the white house for 2 years.

Re:Symmantec out for the count (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26639015)

this could prevent Symmantec from providing any contracts to the white house for 2 years

I don't like Symantec either, but if this is Obama's attempt to keep NAV off his white house PC it's a bit extreme.

Mixed Blessing? (2, Interesting)

Cowmonaut (989226) | more than 5 years ago | (#26638995)

I suppose he knows the "tech industry" or what have you better than other possible choices. I just have this feeling that having the former CEO of a proprietary software company in charge of looking into the feasibility of going open source might not be as good an idea.

I mean, the guy is capable but is he willing? Several nations are going nuts with open source now since it puts them in control of their own systems and even fits their philosophical ideas (power to the people, etc) better than going Windows. So we know its possible and seems to be working out okay where it has been done. Why do I have a feeling whomever we do get for Secretary of Commerce is going to say we should stick with Windows for the OS, Symantec for the AV, and MS Office for our primary apps?

One of the worst proprietary vendors... (3, Interesting)

MikeRT (947531) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639053)

I couldn't help but notice that he picked the CEO of a company that makes the worst, most bloated, least valuable proprietary products I've ever used. Say what you will about the bloat in Microsoft products, but at least the bloat is there because they are trying their damnedest to create a robust platform and maintain compatibility. I've never seen a single benefit to the bloat that Symantec products have, and have often found myself wondering how you would even notice malware and viruses on a system that has their antivirus products on it.

Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... (3, Informative)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639163)

Hey, ghost is a great product. ( ya, i know they bought it a good decade ago, but all the legacy code is long gone by now )

And their latest acquisition: Altiris is nothing to sneeze at either.

They are *much* more then antivirus. ( which i agree, sux )

Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26639327)

I couldn't help but notice that he picked the CEO of a company that makes the worst, most bloated, least valuable proprietary products I've ever used.

So what if the Symantec guy voted for Obama? So did more than 50,000,000 other registered voters!

(And the other 50,000,000 picked that McAffee guy! Even older, cruftier, and slower!)

Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... (0, Flamebait)

valnar (914809) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639355)

I couldn't help but notice that he picked the CEO of a company that makes the worst, most bloated, least valuable proprietary products I've ever used.

Democrats/liberals = bloat
Symantec = bloat

Sounds about right.

Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26639605)

Neocons = bloat

See? All politicians are bloat, pork, whatever, for their own agendas. That's all for today. Maybe you can yank your head from your ass and stop playing partisan politics to get the real root of the problem, or are you too big a cock sucking douche bag to grasp that simple concept?

Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... (2, Insightful)

Firehed (942385) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639667)

If we're going to make political statements out of software, then is it safe to equate republicans with spyware?

/sick of party-line bullshit - they both suck

Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... (4, Informative)

davie (191) | more than 5 years ago | (#26640675)

The Democrat and Republican parties are the two sides of a counterfeit coin. Heads? they win, tails? we lose. Their core agenda is unified, and they have perfected the art of keeping half the country fighting the other half to support it. I'm waiting for an ex-Professional wrestler to show up with magic sunglasses (I won't fight it, I'll put them on right away).

Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26639711)

Democrats = economic bloat
Republicans = moral bloat

Vote third party!

Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26639453)

His company makes a shitty product and have made a huge profit from it. He should be excellent as Secretary of Commerce. Hell, selling a good product ain't that hard.

Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... (1, Troll)

db32 (862117) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639489)

maintain compatibility

AAAHAHAHAHA....Ok...to be fair here... I think Symantec's consumer offerings are total garbage, but I have not had anywhere near the same level of nightmare in dealing with their corporate products. But seriously...saying Microsoft became bloated in an effort to maintain compatability?! That is laughable at best. Hell, half of their 'backwards compatability' issues wouldn't even exist if they weren't constantly trying to make sure their newest software is incompatable with everything else.

Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... (5, Interesting)

nvrrobx (71970) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639719)

Having been an engineer at Symantec for 5 1/2 years, I can tell you that what they suffer from is the inability to build new products themselves, or a management team that refuses to try (you choose).

It's a company of "buy everything you can see, who cares if you can integrate it". Very little in the way of shared components, every product looks and works different, very little interoperability, etc.

It seemed like we always bought the worst codebases we could find, then tried to fix it. It's not due to a lack of good engineering talent - there is plenty at the company.

While I think JWT is a nice guy, one only needs to look at the purchase of Veritas to find a completely failed business model, and a CEO who doesn't seem to "get it". Even after that, they continued (and still continue) to snatch up other companies with little regard to how it will really affect shareholders. Nice guys don't make CEOs.

When John Schwarz left to take the CEO spot at Business Objects and we kept Gary Bloom (CEO, Veritas) - I knew we were in trouble.

Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... (1)

The Angry Mick (632931) | more than 5 years ago | (#26640389)

While I think JWT is a nice guy, one only needs to look at the purchase of Veritas to find a completely failed business model, and a CEO who doesn't seem to "get it". Even after that, they continued (and still continue) to snatch up other companies with little regard to how it will really affect shareholders.

I think this is more indicative of a general trend in modern corporate culture that has never really made any sense to me.

Somewhere along the line corporate success has become less equated with how good your products were, and more with how many competitors you could buy out of existence. Larger is not necessarily always better if the only thing you're trying to do is grow for growth's sake, and abandoning innovation and competition in favor of a policy of expensive buyouts does nothing to improve your reputation with your most important assets: your customers. All a customer can see is a CEO throwing shareholder money at his competitors wallets while doing nothing to improve his business model or product development.

Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... (1)

operagost (62405) | more than 5 years ago | (#26641189)

I do love how OFO basically stopped working and causes system crashes on Windows 2000 since Symantec bought Veritas. Irony: a product that is supposed to help protect your data puts it at risk through instability.

Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26639879)

the worst, most bloated, least valuable proprietary products

You've never used Lotus Notes, have you?

Re:One of the worst proprietary vendors... (1)

gladish (982899) | more than 5 years ago | (#26641385)

Wow. I'm glad I'm reading this. I've been going for a year now without anti-virus on my windows pc at home for fear of installing some shit that slows my machine to a crawl. I had no idea symantec sucked this bad. I think I'll stay with my current procedure which is to do microsoft's online check once every week that's free. Probably isn't going to do much, but what the hell, it does seem to find unused items from your registry and remove them.

Fox watching the henhouse? (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639109)

I realize you want experience when you appoint people, but if they still have 'ties' there is a great chance of conflict of interest in moves like this.

New Governemnt Suffix code? (1)

geekmux (1040042) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639127)

Anyone else curious when they're going to start adding "360" to the end of every departmental name or Project?

DHS is dead. Long live DHS360!

If you thought NSA was watching you, just wait until the NSA360 upgrade comes out.

Can't wait for change360.gov website.

Let's just hope in four years the 360 moniker doesn't ring too true. Turn 360 degrees, and you're pretty much back where you started from.

Re:New Governemnt Suffix code? (1)

operagost (62405) | more than 5 years ago | (#26641353)

The public keeps falling for this. Look at Philadelphia: they voted for a supposed "Maverick" named Michael Nutter (basically the Democrats' John McCain) and expected something different. Nope: the same left-wing Democrat party lines Philadelphia is known for:

- Anti-gun (two new gun control laws, tried to implement unconstitutional handgun ban)
- Pro-police state (random police searches on the street)
- Pro-tax (cancelled promised tax cuts)
- Destroying civic pride and traditions (implementation of outrageous parade fees that almost cancelled the Mummers parade-- blamed on the minor chaos after the Phillies brought the first championship to the city since 1983)

lame (4, Insightful)

nilbog (732352) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639161)

What has this guy done except lead a company that makes a crappy product that only succeeds because of their volume license deals with computer manufacturers and Microsoft's own ineptness and inability to produce a secure product?

Symantec produces software that slows down your computer, makes your other software stop working, and makes itself difficult to uninstall. Pretty much the same as a virus.

ha (1, Interesting)

unity100 (970058) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639379)

what did ANY senior post appointee in the administrations of the last 30 years do to get to their post ? APART from being regulars of smoke filled rooms ?

please wake up. this person, is of our age and times. he doesnt belong to an age in which life was decided in smoke filled rooms on leather armchairs.

its not what he has done. its that he is of OUR generations, the tech affiliated generations, and he is of our rising internet/tech culture. thats what's important.

it would be utterly stupid, STUPID to assign a person to such posts, just because they have pulled some ceo stunts in some monolithic dinosaur companies. considering the fact that we are well into the tech age and the only thing we havent started automating&integrating being the way we shit in our wcs, and the fact that how badly the 'executive' understanding of the past 'hey its high finance & executive times !' era screwed up our global economy, doing as such would be even more stupid.

Re:ha (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26640059)

Get off it with your conspiracy theories already. Government is run just like a business so you hire people with business experience. Its not OMG CORRUPTION because they didnt pick some ideological radical like RMS.

Please go back to not using capitalization and listening to Rage Against The Machine(TM). Dont forget to stop at HotTopic(TM) and Twitter(TM) your rebellion.

Re:lame (1)

gad_zuki! (70830) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639967)

The symantec corporate AV product is pretty solid. Ghost is pretty solid, but certainly has been badly hurt by Acronis. They own Veritas now which is a solid backup solution.

Its not all the home market.

Re:lame (1)

operagost (62405) | more than 5 years ago | (#26641401)

Even the corporate AV is terrible now. It removes various commercial remote-control products as "threats" without prompting and performs start-up scans that make most PCs unusable for the first ten minutes-- and attempting to disable the scan does not work.

Who you talking about? (1)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 5 years ago | (#26640041)

Obama or the guy he is appointing?

I just want to know the obvious creeps are getting a free pass from the Republicans and the press. The problem with a "Cult of Personality" President is that the usual concerns don't question or challenge him. That is the real danger and a good number of his appointments demonstrate that clearly.

All in all we end up with the realization that after the election the dream world ceases to exist.

Wow (2, Interesting)

unity100 (970058) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639323)

open source initiatives through sun ceo, ex yahoo exec for admn. post, symantec exec for ceo .... totally investing in the upcoming tech age.

u.s. is going to shake up and lead again after all. just at the time we thought it was going down the drain. amazing.

Norton Antivirus for everyone!.. oh wait... (1)

valnar (914809) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639329)

As if the Democrats don't get enough flack about creating overly large, bureaucratic initiatives, he hires the guy in charge of Norton products! Does that mean the next Republican President will hire the guy from ESET?

Re:Norton Antivirus for everyone!.. oh wait... (1)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639517)

Yeah, but that guy on the front of the Norton box looks so knowledgeable and trustworthy! I'd trust him with my computer in a second!

open source (3, Interesting)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639443)

The appointment of Thompson to head the Department of Commerce would be an exceptionally interesting choice given that only days ago President Obama asked Scott McNealy, a co-founder of Sun Microsystems, to lead his open source charge and conduct a study and report back regarding the feasibility of the US government forgoing proprietary software and moving toward open source software solutions

The Navy-Marine Corp. Intranet (NMCI) project has been seen as a huge, overpriced failure. It's also due for re-bidding in 2010, I believe, because EDS decided it wasn't a profitable contract.

I wonder if a general push towards OSS in the federal government will even lead to an eviction of the unholy Exchange servers that are part of the current NMCI.

Re:open source (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26639625)

I believe, because EDS decided it wasn't a profitable contract.

EDS, good lord. Can anyone ever remember them finishing a contract on time? Or software that worked?

Huh? (2, Informative)

SwashbucklingCowboy (727629) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639651)

given that only days ago President Obama asked Scott McNealy, a co-founder of Sun Microsystems, to lead his open source charge and conduct a study and report back regarding the feasibility of the US government forgoing proprietary software and moving toward open source software solutions.

It certainly wasn't Obama, but SOMEONE in the administration that asked McNealy to write a paper on open source in government. That is not the same as leading a "charge."

Interestingly, Symantec reports earnings today. Gotta believe at least one of the analysts will ask about the reports (and be given a long winded "no comment."

Re:Huh? (1)

troll8901 (1397145) | more than 5 years ago | (#26641021)

It certainly wasn't Obama, but SOMEONE in the administration that asked McNealy to write a paper on open source in government.

I wonder what will happen if the Obama administration asked Jim Whitehurst (CEO of Red Hat) to write the paper on open source, instead.

I'm still trying to figure out what I do wrong; I can't seem to install v7 of Fedora.

Symantec the new Haliburton (1)

NFN_NLN (633283) | more than 5 years ago | (#26639991)

Should I be buying stock in Symantec now? Is this going to be like Haliburton with tons of money being thrown at it via government?

They should hire Peter Norton (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26640121)

Now there was a geek's geek.

The country will be on hold for a long time... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26640243)

So does this mean when we call his office we'll get a call center in India, with reps who will read a script over and over in response to our questions? Of course the script won't quite answer the question, and when we get frustrated, we don't get to uninstall him since he's a non elected official. Can't wait.

Of course... (2, Funny)

zullnero (833754) | more than 5 years ago | (#26641001)

You all could be thankful that it isn't someone who believes the Internet is a set of tubes, which you cannot dump large objects on, as you could the bed of a flatbed truck.

SYMANTEC??? (1)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | more than 5 years ago | (#26641299)

The people who ruined the Norton Utilities?

Why in the world would he want a corporate exec from a corporation that does even know how to improve its own products?
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