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Russia's Operating System May Be Fedora Based

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the if-the-hat-is-red-wear-it dept.

Red Hat Software 242

Glyn Moody writes "Last month, a story about Russia producing its own national operating system based on GNU/Linux started circulating. Now there's some confirmation, and details of how the plan might be put into practice. Red Hat had a meeting with the Russian communications ministry, which announced that the development of free software in Russia was one of its priorities. One concrete idea they talked about was using the Russian Fedora project as a step towards creating a national operating system."

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It's Simple Really (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26797767)

Russia's Operating System May Be Fedora Based

An upside down fedora will represent a zero and a right side up fedora will represent a one ... we will use state of the art Soviet technology to flip (or "flop") each hat as the program runs ...

Re:It's Simple Really (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798819)

In Soviet Russia.....ehhh I got nothin'

Hey so at least now when they get a burnt copy of their favorite OS, Microsoft can't bitch about lost revenue!

Re:It's Simple Really (3, Insightful)

El Lobo (994537) | more than 5 years ago | (#26799075)

Now, jokes aside, a "national OS", whatever it is, is always a terrible idea. I've lived in Russia from 1988 to 2003, and I know the russian idiosyncrasy, and especially, the russian organs of powers and bureaucracy so well, that I'd be damed if this will not turn up to be just another dictatorial directive: only the "Russian OS" should be used at schools and educational institutions. Only the "Russian OS" must be officially supported in governmental offices. Only the "Russian OS" should be.-.. etc.

Now , whatever this OS is based on, that kind of "official" monopoly is NEVER a good idea. A standard is one thing. An *imposed* standard by the government is just too much.

Oh god... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26797771)

I hope it's just /. being wonked that made the title red.

Re:Oh god... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798105)

I hope it's just /. being wonked that made the title red.

It's red because the sysop slit his wrists over the self-slashdotting.

But (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26797773)

does it run FreeBSD^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^Hblend

RED Hat, come on ppl (5, Funny)

cwrinn (1282510) | more than 5 years ago | (#26797775)

Well, Duh, it's Red. :D

Re:RED Hat, come on ppl (5, Funny)

GreatRedShark (880833) | more than 5 years ago | (#26797841)

Maybe they'll rename it Red Ushanka! :P

Re:RED Hat, come on ppl (1)

dotancohen (1015143) | more than 5 years ago | (#26797885)

Well, Duh, it's Red. :D

Actually, I thought that they would have gone with either Red Flag Linux [wikipedia.org] or the super-stable backbone of free Linux: Debian [debian.org] .

Re:RED Hat, come on ppl (0, Troll)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798337)

Red Flag is based on RHEL, right? So there's not much difference basing it on Fedora.

Re:RED Hat, come on ppl (2, Informative)

MoellerPlesset2 (1419023) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798117)

Hmm... how to parse that?
If that's a reference to Communism it's a pretty lame joke.
If it's a reference to the adjective 'red' also meaning 'beautiful' in Russian, then it's a pretty smart one.

Re:RED Hat, come on ppl (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798277)

Hey! Look at me! I know Russian! Red == beautiful, I'm pretty smart LOL!

- Moeller -

Of course he was referring to communism. Get over yourself.

How quickly time passes. (1)

srobert (4099) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798675)

There are lots of young adults in Russia (and other former Soviet Republics) who aren't old enough to remember Communism.

Re:RED Hat, come on ppl (3, Informative)

The Moof (859402) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798779)

Come on, you're at Slashdot. It's always the lame joke.

Terrible News! Please read! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26797779)

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Re:Terrible News! Please read! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26797893)

hung like a 3 year old Asian boy.

Why do you know this?

Re:Terrible News! Please read! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798209)

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Re:Terrible News! Please read! (-1, Troll)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798363)

Why do you know this?

The AC must've been Kathleen Fent.

Re:Terrible News! Please read! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798717)

hung like a 3 year old Asian boy.

Why do you know this?

Because he's a 3 year old Asian boy whose parents abandoned him in an internet cafe in Korea, where he will most likely die in his early 20's after playing WOW for 30 days, non-stop.

First Ninnle Post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26797787)

In SOVIET RUSSIA!

Ninnle operates YOU!

In soviet russia... (2, Funny)

meist3r (1061628) | more than 5 years ago | (#26797805)

Source opens you ... sorry I couldn't resist it. But why Fedora? Is it because they'd rather be "Dead than Red(Hat)"?

Re:In soviet russia... (4, Funny)

dotancohen (1015143) | more than 5 years ago | (#26797959)

But why Fedora?

Because only in the Russian language are there enough curse words to accurately describe yum breaking X.org, the video drivers, and itself after downloading 450 MB of updates because you didn't update in two weeks.

That was FC6, and F7 would not install on my Inspiron (driving me to Kubuntu). I love Fedora to death, but it is _not_ for your daily driver! Unless you happen to speak a language where every tangible noun can be made into a curse word. Pizdyetz!

Re:In soviet russia... (1)

Sir_Lewk (967686) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798133)

FC6 was what? Two years ago? Don't get me started on the issues I had with kubuntu 7.04 man...

Re:In soviet russia... (1)

MiniMike (234881) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798235)

I just had that happen upgrading F9 to F10. Yumex and yum would crash on updating random packages. Fixed it by first only updating the rpm package (which is where the crash really was). After that I could update everything else. I did not run out of curse words though, even limiting myself to English.

Re:In soviet russia... (1)

pmontra (738736) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798309)

I dissent: in Soviet Russia the National Operating System produces you! But I agree on the irony of choosing a distribution derived from a Red one :-)

Re:In soviet russia... (-1, Offtopic)

mrops (927562) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798369)

Fedora, you say

My comment on the previous Slashdot article http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1102319&cid=26579545 [slashdot.org]

Re:In soviet russia... (2, Funny)

brainologist (1249264) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798433)

But why Fedora?

Seems like the perfect OS for use in the Russian Fedoration...

Keep your head down (-1, Offtopic)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 5 years ago | (#26797811)

Only another few hundred In Soviet Russia jokes to scroll through before you start to get to original content.

Re:Keep your head down (-1, Offtopic)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 5 years ago | (#26797931)

Only another few hundred In Soviet Russia jokes to scroll through before you start to get to original content.

In Soviet Russia, joke scrolls YOU

(Yeah, that was bad ;)

Re:Keep your head down (3, Funny)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | more than 5 years ago | (#26797963)

Original content? No, I don't think there will be any of that for this story. There really isn't anything insightful or informative to say. Leaving everyone to come up with some misguided attempt at creating a joke that isn't completely expected.

You know something like

Q: Why did the chicken cross the road
A: Because Russia, a formerly communist nation, has decided to go with a national operating system that forms the basis for a different operating system called Red Hat. And Red is the main color associated with Communism in general. Which makes this joke funny. Also, chickens are in a constant state of motion. They don't really have a set destination in mind, and just wander aimlessly most of the time. So its more of a question of why it wasn't in its coop and what lazy farmer couldn't be bothered to care for his farm animals, than why it an animal with no cognitive power of its own to speak of crossed any kind of a road.

See, not the least bit funny. There should be an editor level feature that only allows for negative moderation on stories. So then the competition amongst the attention seekers would be to see who could write the most bland, non attempt at any horrible run on jokes/memes comments.

Re:Keep your head down (1)

Hordeking (1237940) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798253)

Original content? No, I don't think there will be any of that for this story. There really isn't anything insightful or informative to say. Leaving everyone to come up with some misguided attempt at creating a joke that isn't completely expected. You know something like Q: Why did the chicken cross the road A: Because Russia, a formerly communist nation, has decided to go with a national operating system that forms the basis for a different operating system called Red Hat. And Red is the main color associated with Communism in general. Which makes this joke funny. Also, chickens are in a constant state of motion. They don't really have a set destination in mind, and just wander aimlessly most of the time. So its more of a question of why it wasn't in its coop and what lazy farmer couldn't be bothered to care for his farm animals, than why it an animal with no cognitive power of its own to speak of crossed any kind of a road. See, not the least bit funny. There should be an editor level feature that only allows for negative moderation on stories. So then the competition amongst the attention seekers would be to see who could write the most bland, non attempt at any horrible run on jokes/memes comments.

Actually, chickens exhibit Brownian motion. This was discovered in 1997, when I was in high school. I had chickens at the time, so I went about proving this for extra credit in class.

My conclusion: Given a bounded area crossed by exactly one road, the chicken has approximately a 100% chance of crossing the road at least once as time goes to infinity. The jury is still out as to why, but several theories posit quantum chicken physics being involved.

Re:Keep your head down (5, Funny)

daveime (1253762) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798721)

In quantum chicken physics, the two states are :-

1) About to cross the road
2) Groaning at the awful punchline

The trick is to try and observe the former state, thus collapsing the waveform so that the latter state cannot happen.

Re:Keep your head down (1)

zappepcs (820751) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798343)

Actually, I think there are some interesting points about this: An entire country of some import has finally said "enough, fuck proprietary software, lets write our own!" Yes, I know there is RedFlag Linux and others, but this is still quite significant.

I have wondered for years why governments have trusted foreign companies to run their IT systems. On many levels it just doesn't make sense. Then you have things like the Russian school teacher who was prosecuted for OS software in the school. It allows little business boyers of commerce to come in your country and tell you what to do. Most sovereign nations are a bit touchy about such things.

Personally, I think that this and other recent events regarding Linux are solid signs that Linux will neither disappear nor lose to MS/Apple. If you want to frame things in terms of Linux on the Desktop I'd say Ubuntu is your answer, and lots of folk are following suit, including big names like Sun et al. When an entire country says it, we should probably listen closely.

No, FedoraRusso OS is not the answer for everything, but it sets a trend, an attitude. Imagine how many Russians would pirate MS Windows if they can get THE "Russian OS" for free? In the end, BSA will get what they want; no piracy of MS products in Russia. Unfortunately for MS Russians will be buying less of their products too. Whether it was meant as such or not, there is no larger way to say fsck you. If they actually follow through and demand that trading partners meet their demands for data interchange..... well hello! ODF. It could have some far reaching impacts. Look at problems caused by using metric and imperial measurements in the space program. I'm willing to be that government and business requirements for data interchange will demand changes even outside of Russia, and that is where it truly becomes interesting for me.

Re:Keep your head down (1)

FishWithAHammer (957772) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798935)

Imagine how many Russians would pirate MS Windows if they can get THE "Russian OS" for free?

The overwhelming majority of them.

Re:Keep your head down (1)

Frosty Piss (770223) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798431)

Only another few hundred In Soviet Russia jokes to scroll through before you start to get to original content.

I thought Windows was the free OS in Russia.

Too perfect that it's based on RED Hat. (4, Insightful)

Nimey (114278) | more than 5 years ago | (#26797829)

Don't know why they'd pick the unstable beta distro to do it, though. Ought to use the Russian version of CentOS or Ubuntu LTS.

Re:Too perfect that it's based on RED Hat. (4, Funny)

Tet (2721) | more than 5 years ago | (#26797937)

Fedora != unstable.

Re:Too perfect that it's based on RED Hat. (2, Informative)

Nimey (114278) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798357)

It's the beta testing-ground for RHEL. Mostly works, but only mostly.

Re:Too perfect that it's based on RED Hat. (1)

Sir_Lewk (967686) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798165)

Bleeding edge != unstable. Just a little sharp sometimes...

Re:Too perfect that it's based on RED Hat. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798215)

Don't know why they'd pick the unstable beta distro to do it,

The same reason you, me and management always reach for the bowl of cookie dough:

shiny features

And the risk of salmonella.

Re:Too perfect that it's based on RED Hat. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798311)

'tis good enough for Torvalds...

http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090202#feature

Seeing him say he switched from KDE4 to Gnome... (1)

Chibi Merrow (226057) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798913)

makes me feel vindicated. Either he's a regular human being like the rest of us, or even GODS think it's ridiculous that it takes 30 minutes of Google searches to figure out how to create a desktop icon...

Re:Too perfect that it's based on RED Hat. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798361)

Did everyone miss the part where it says the system could be based off of Fedora?

Let me quote it for you too lazy to read 10 lines down from the headline "using the Russian Fedora project as a step towards creating a national operating system."

Re:Too perfect that it's based on RED Hat. (1)

ultrabot (200914) | more than 5 years ago | (#26799047)

Don't know why they'd pick the unstable beta distro to do it, though. Ought to use the Russian version of CentOS or Ubuntu LTS.

I guess they can still funnel fixes from RHEL based on that Fedora later on. Seems a bit unnecessary duplication of effort though.

Personally, I'd preferred them to have based on Ubuntu, and perhaps pay canonical for some support contracts if necessary. Perhaps Fedora is the more patriotic alternative because there is nobody to pay? ;-)

Incidentally - can you run Hind with Wine?

Dostoevsky warned of this (3, Funny)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 5 years ago | (#26797833)

Consider that Raskolnikov was only an outlaw because he believed himself to be such. If he hadn't had the guilty conscience, the authorities never would have caught up with him. They believed that the painters had done the crime, and had the confession to prove it.

But all men who are good at heart love honesty, and though Raskolnikov was able to commit murder, he was unable to maintain the lie which he had constructed.

In much the same vein, Javert was able to break his case against Jean Valjean because though a criminal, Valjean was never the hardened criminal he was portrayed to be.

In short, Russian Linux is likely to suck.

How will they call it? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26797839)

"Red ushanka" [wiktionary.org] ?

Re:How will they call it? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798059)

" ".. Not a bad idea, considering that 'red' also means 'beautiful' with an older word.

But... why? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26797847)

I can imagine the Linux community would welcome the opportunity to improve internationalization and localization, especially if the Russian government is going to fund the efforts, but why would Russia need a "national operating system"? What other country does this?

Re:But... why? (1)

Who Is The Drizzle (1470385) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798317)

China?

You are kidding arent you? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26797907)

Are you saying that this linux can run on a computer without windows underneath it, at all ? As in, without a boot disk, without any drivers, and without any services?

That sounds preposterous to me.

If it were true (and I doubt it), then companies would be selling computers without a windows. This clearly is not happening, so there must be some error in your calculations. I hope you realise that windows is more than just Office ? Its a whole system that runs the computer from start to finish, and that is a very difficult thing to acheive. A lot of people dont realise this.

Microsoft just spent $9 billion and many years to create Vista, so it does not sound reasonable that some new alternative could just snap into existence overnight like that. It would take billions of dollars and a massive effort to achieve. IBM tried, and spent a huge amount of money developing OS/2 but could never keep up with Windows. Apple tried to create their own system for years, but finally gave up recently and moved to Intel and Microsoft.

Its just not possible that a freeware like the Linux could be extended to the point where it runs the entire computer fron start to finish, without using some of the more critical parts of windows. Not possible.

I think you need to re-examine your assumptions.

Re:You are kidding arent you? (4, Funny)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 5 years ago | (#26797953)

Whoa whoa whoa.

Windows is still there. Linux runs on top of it.

Re:You are kidding arent you? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26797969)

lol at that dumb teacher quote.

Re:You are kidding arent you? (1)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798017)

Who's the one kidding? Are you seriously this ignorant of Linux, and computers in general? Or did I just earn a whooooosh?

Re:You are kidding arent you? (3, Insightful)

UberMorlock (1391949) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798169)

I'm certain you earned a whooooosh.

In Soviet Russia, comment duplicates YOU (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798631)

Anonymous Coward posted the same comment [slashdot.org] to another recent article.

Re:You are kidding arent you? (1)

msormune (808119) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798693)

No it's not possible. It's possible IF you think any of the amazing number of people contributed into GNU/Linux software did it all and their time didn't cost anyone any money. Which of course is just not true.

Not to mention standards like POSIX and X11 standards which are not exactly "invented" in the Linux development process, but used by the OS and kernel.

So in essence, the development of GNU/Linux has been very expensive, just like any huge software effort is. But not everything directly costs money out of someone's pocket, it's more complex.

USSR (4, Funny)

MazzThePianoman (996530) | more than 5 years ago | (#26797909)

Great, Linux was doing so well until it caused the 2nd rise of the USSR.

Re:USSR (4, Funny)

AragornSonOfArathorn (454526) | more than 5 years ago | (#26797987)

Ah, finally, those capitalist pigs will pay for their crimes, eh? Eh, comrades? Eh?

Re:USSR (3, Funny)

tcopeland (32225) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798079)

Er, Austin... we won!

Re:USSR (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798661)

What capitalist pigs? They are all gone now.

Re:USSR (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798263)

Not so smug with the Evil Microsoft Empire jokes now, huh?

Fedora not a good choice (4, Interesting)

messner_007 (1042060) | more than 5 years ago | (#26797957)

I am using Fedora from the start and I like it very much, but I don't think its philosophy is suitable for a "national" distribution.

Fedora is created for testing, not for everyday usage for normal people (not neerds). I think even using Fedora qualify you as a nerd. OK, it gets even worse if you are using alpha's.

Using Fedora will cripple their productivity and they will start to hate Linux.

If they want to use Linux for serious stuff, like "national distribution", then they should chose another distro.

Re:Fedora not a good choice (2, Informative)

UberMorlock (1391949) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798205)

Fedora is not created for testing. My mother-in-law (who has brain damage from brain surgeries) uses it without any trouble (Yes, I set it up but I have not had any maintenance to do since I set it up almost 2 years ago). I know, I know - "Don't feed the trolls". I couldn't help myself this time.

Re:Fedora not a good choice (1)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798247)

Fedora Linux: So easy, even a brain damaged old woman can use it!

Re:Fedora not a good choice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798505)

You don't have to be a brain damaged old woman to use Fedora effectively...but it certainly helps.

Re:Fedora not a good choice (0, Troll)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798509)

IF I were creating a national distribution and I wanted it to be "Red Hat-compatible" or "Red Hat-like" I would choose CentOS as my starting point, personally.

If you're worried about having the most open source packages available and easily installable, then I would pick either Debian or one of the Debian-like distros such as Ubuntu as my starting point.

Or, you could always start from scratch (LFS).

Re:Fedora not a good choice (1)

FlyingBishop (1293238) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798891)

I assume they'll be doing exactly what Ubuntu does with Debian (and what Red Hat does with Fedora for that matter.)

They'll be rolling the system out of the Fedora branch annually or biannually. I don't know what got it into your head that they would use unmodified Fedora. Red Hat, I would imagine, is just fine, especially with the Russians behind it.

They should call it... (2, Funny)

Thelasko (1196535) | more than 5 years ago | (#26797989)

Ushanka. [wikipedia.org]

Re:They should call it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26799087)

I thought for certain they would call it Fyodora.

Obligitory (3, Informative)

FireStormZ (1315639) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798011)

Its not a Russian OS, its a Russian Distribution...

No Files (3, Funny)

tripmine (1160123) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798069)

I was hoping Russia's OS would be based on not having files :(

Re:No Files (1)

AragornSonOfArathorn (454526) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798239)

Are you kidding? A Soviet Linux distro would have files on EVERYBODY...

(yes, I know you were referencing Phantom OS, but I couldn't resist... ;-)

sh;i6t. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798073)

there are disgust, or been you join Today! You sh?ould bring

this is basically fedora (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798085)

except that it kills journalists, right?

first link (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798093)

Okay, as a more accurate translation of the first story:

part one:

The IT community is asking the president to support the idea of a national operating system. Future developers of the can receive this support in the form of a federal goal program . In any case, this is what the authors of the letter, which is being written in [government [?]], to President Medvedev are counting on //I assume by a federal goal program they want the government to control the project.

part two:

In addition to the request to initiate the preparation of the federal program, it will contain a justified benefit from the creation of a Ânational OSÂ. While it is understood that the basis for the OS will be existing systems with [open code]. The question of this openness, in the letter will Âremain open so as not to overload the president technical details // the basis will be off open code, but the level of it's use will be arguable. //the last statement means that the letter will not be too technical

three:

The point of creating of Russia's Ânational OS is for military services and government[buildings] was commented on by the director of ALT Linux Alexei Smirnov: Âoperating systems can be called national if the state has the right to distribute and modify, and, as a customer, influence its development. There are no Systems that meet these requirements, neither in free, nor in proprietary software Â. Smirnov believes that the project ÂNational OS in the first phase will be [basic - based off something]: ÂWithout it, for example, there can be no talk of "National Iron " in it's timeÂ. We should not forget, Smirnov recalled, that if the system will adopt a Âfree model, then, Âthe more Russia will invest in the global movement of the ACT, the more it will have an impact on itÂ. //he considers the basis for the OP, // "national iron" is likely not related, used for comparison //last statement means that the more russia invests in the changing [cpu?], the more of an influence it will have

if anyone has a better translation, go ahead.

Re:first link (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798315)

Translation: Out of the need to maintain overt nationalism as our economy sinks into the muck, we will be ripping off Fedora, putting in a few shitty custom apps, and calling it our own.

Of *course* it's the OS for the Russian Fedoration (3, Funny)

mujadaddy (1238164) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798151)

Thank you, I'll be here all week!

Re:Of *course* it's the OS for the Russian Fedorat (1)

AragornSonOfArathorn (454526) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798275)

Thank you, I'll be here all week!

Trust me. Don't try the borsch.

In Soviet Linux (1)

erroneus (253617) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798179)

Computer programs you!

Already Done? (2, Informative)

JoeSixpack00 (1327135) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798199)

As is often the case, the key advantage that would flow from the creation of such a "national OS" is the control that it would give the Russian government - something it doesn't have with Windows, say, or even generalised free software produced elsewhere:

Not only is ALT Linux [linux.com] already around, but ASPLinux has been certified by the government. [linux.com] Are we re-inventing the wheel here?

For the sake of god! (3, Informative)

Sam Lowry (254040) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798269)

Guys, there is a dozen of Linux distros is Russia. AltLinux [wikipedia.org] is the most known, but there are also ASPLinux [wikipedia.org] , Linux XP [wikipedia.org] and a military classified . All the distro developers and lots of system integrators are in the battle for the state funding right now, so do not expect to know now what will the Russian national OS be tomorrow.

Re:For the sake of god! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798419)

Whom is the god you speak of?

We worship the Flying Spaghetti Monster around here and the FSM uses Debian.

He would have tried Fedora but Yum kept breaking Xorg every chance it got.

Re:For the sake of god! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798705)

You name me ONE country in the whole world that doesn't have have at least 10 military classified Linux systems in use (granted they have a military defence at all)..

Let's start a Sputnik-like race! (3, Interesting)

openfrog (897716) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798281)

First, I would like to see comments on Slashdot cease referring to "the Reds" as if the USSR was still in existence. Are some Slashdotters actually young enough to have no memory of 1989-1990??? However and that being said, if Russia goes ahead with this project, it would be clever to agitate for a Sputnik-like panic and suggest that America must beat them to the goal of free software, as the thing that will propel humanity into the future.

Fedor Emelianenko Gets His Own Operating System??? (1)

jerryodom (904532) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798283)

Fedor is an unstoppable killing machine I guess the Russians figure Fedora must be an unstoppable OS. What's next? A USA national operating system named Chuck Norris?

In Non-Soviet Russia, the OS Writes You! (1)

gklinger (571901) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798339)

Why would they base their OS on somebody else's distribution? I thought Russia didn't need help, weren't invalids and didn't have limited mental capacity? I figured that a bare chested, gun totin' Putin would write the OS from scratch himself after using his mad Judo skills to teach a bear why nobody should talk wise to the past and future President of Russia.

Re:In Non-Soviet Russia, the OS Writes You! (2, Funny)

daveime (1253762) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798809)

I thought Russia didn't need help, weren't invalids and didn't have limited mental capacity

Well at least not until they open that third lunchtime bottle of vodka ...

Official death of microsoft confirmed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798383)

The End. Pack your bags and go home boys. Sell some stock while it's still there. It was nice to meet you.

Oh no! (1)

sootman (158191) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798447)

In Soviet Russia... but does it run Linux? Russian overlords... MEME OVERLOAD*(&$*(%&*#$*(%&NO CARRIER

Open Source Licenses? (1)

sneakyimp (1161443) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798471)

I wonder if they'll honor the open source license requirements and publish derivative code. Isn't Fedora GPL?

And yes, the almighty FSM does use Debian.

Re:Open Source Licenses? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798855)

Oh sure, they will probably honor it exactly the same way free software used in military classified systems is honored. But of course, the developers of such systems always have a choice. They just need to find out who you would be most afraid of trying to screw them over. FSF or (in this example) mother Russia ;)

Finally, an OS that has files on YOU. (2, Funny)

gandhi_2 (1108023) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798673)

rm -rf /political_dissidents

Re:Finally, an OS that has files on YOU. (1)

ianare (1132971) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798909)

don't you mean :
mv --force /political_dissidents /dev/gulag

Re:Finally, an OS that has files on YOU. (1)

messner_007 (1042060) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798979)

find / -name *slashdot*
find / -name *messner_007*

Russia and the GPL (1)

Danathar (267989) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798833)

Ahhh...but will Vladimir Putin obey the GPL and submit changes back to the worldwide community....

I would say probably NOT

Now that Red Hat are dealing with the russians (1)

Big Hairy Ian (1155547) | more than 5 years ago | (#26798837)

Does that mean they are about to be bugged by more than just M$? BTW the level of "in Soviet Russia" jokes in this thread is awful come on guys

meanwhile, in the salt mines of Siberia... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798859)

Slackware... [google.com]

I hear it is big in antarctica, too!

p.s. I use it, too!

Next step... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26798991)

Coreboot. The NSA would still be able to spy on them if they had custom BIOSes.
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