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Post-Beta Windows 7 Build Leaked With New IE8

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the seekret-leaks-from-nowhere-in-particular dept.

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CWmike writes "A post-beta version of Windows 7, Build 7022, leaked to Internet file-sharing sites also includes an updated version of IE8, according to searches at several BitTorrent trackers. With Microsoft halting new Windows 7 beta downloads on Tuesday, and blocking all downloads as of noon (EST) today, users are again turning to illegal sources to get the new operating system."

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Lunix sucks! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26836579)

Linux just isn't ready for the desktop yet. It may be ready for the web servers that you nerds use to distribute your TRON fanzines and personal Dungeons and Dragons web-sights across the world wide web, but the average computer user isn't going to spend months learning how to use a CLI and then hours compiling packages so that they can get a workable graphic interface to check their mail with, especially not when they already have a Windows machine that does its job perfectly well and is backed by a major corporation, as opposed to Linux which is only supported by a few unemployed nerds living in their mother's basement somewhere. The last thing I want is a level 5 dwarf (haha) providing me my OS.

You haven't tried Ninnle! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26836671)

Ninnle's the up and comer on the Linux desktop. It beats Windoze hands down.

Re:You haven't tried Ninnle! (1)

AnonGCB (1398517) | more than 5 years ago | (#26836837)

I've heard this before, google came up with nothing. Someone care to explain?

Re:You haven't tried Ninnle! (1)

FishWithAHammer (957772) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837163)

It's a troll, I think.

Re:You haven't tried Ninnle! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837167)

Sorry, you're not cleared for that.

Re:You haven't tried Ninnle! (5, Informative)

ramandu (1057348) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837189)

It's a meme some AC's have been trying to start; so far it has been a "no go". But I for one am happy that it has been failing, slashdot really doesn't need to have another crappy meme.

Re:You haven't tried Ninnle! (0, Offtopic)

AnonGCB (1398517) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837245)

Thanks you, unfortunately I cannot mod you up, but I hope someone does give you at least +1 Informative.

Re:You haven't tried Ninnle! (1)

Who Is The Drizzle (1470385) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837983)

The Ninnle stuff has been posted for years now. You must be new here.

Re:You haven't tried Ninnle! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837219)

It came up as the first link when I googled it. You must be doing something wrong. I've been using Ninnle for a few years now. Those guys in the Ninnle Labs have come up with an awesome OS.

Re:You haven't tried Ninnle! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26838185)

That OS sucks big time. I would much rather use Windoze than anything written by the Ninnle Labs.

Re:You haven't tried Ninnle! (2, Funny)

Sexy Commando (612371) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837287)

"The Googles, they do nothing!" ...or something like that.

Re:You haven't tried Ninnle! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837323)

IIRC, google was caught violating some ninnle code and blackholed most references to them.

Re:You haven't tried Ninnle! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26838239)

no idea, mario.

Re:Lunix sucks! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26836779)

I guess you have never tried it, I could recommend some distros that are on very mature and dont require you to learn command lines to use...check the following and then say again whatever you want, if, they havent changed your mind al together:

www.kanotix.com
www.debian.org
http://fedoraproject.org
http://www.opensuse.org
http://www.ubuntu.com
http://www.gentoo.org
http://www.damnsmalllinux.org
http://www.knoppix.com

just to name a few, most of them can run from a CD on the fly ( boot from CD) and most if not all of the new stuff configures itself, wanna try?

Re:Lunix sucks! (1)

LingNoi (1066278) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837531)

Please don't feed the trolls.

Re:Lunix sucks! (4, Funny)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837691)

I guess you have never tried it, I could recommend some distros that are on very mature and dont require you to learn command lines to use.

http://www.gentoo.org/ [gentoo.org]

So out of all the user friendly distros you pick... Gentoo?

Re:Lunix sucks! (4, Insightful)

EvanED (569694) | more than 5 years ago | (#26838201)

Gentoo is actually a distro I recommend sometimes to people who are interested in installing Linux on their computer for the first time, and it's not because I'm some MS shrill who is trying to scare people away from Linux. ;-)

But if you have someone who has used Linux on someone else's computer or a school computer or something so that they are not scared of the command line and are have become pretty sure this is something that they'll actually be using rather than just installing because they want to try it and think they might like it, and they are willing to put in a little bit of effort, Gentoo is a really good choice. (That's a lot of 'if's, but Gentoo isn't exactly your typical newbie distro.)

I'm a big Gentoo fan (well, to the extent I'm a fan of any OS, which is not very much), because I think it is a solid distribution, but the main selling point for someone who can and is willing to deal with it is that in my experience, the documentation has just been outstanding. It's been a bit since I have really done any adminning of my own Linux box so this may be out of date, but I would do searches for Linux problems without specifying I was running Gentoo, and it seemed that half the time I would hit something on the Gentoo site anyway.

Re:Lunix sucks! (3, Insightful)

Hordeking (1237940) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837477)

Lunix just isn't ready for the desktop yet. It may be ready for the web servers that you nerds use to distribute your TRON fanzines and personal Dungeons and Dragons web-sights across the world wide web, but the average computer user isn't going to spend months learning how to use a CLI and then hours compiling packages so that they can get a workable graphic interface to check their mail with, especially not when they already have a Windows machine that does its job perfectly well and is backed by a major corporation, as opposed to Lunix which is only supported by a few unemployed nerds living in their mother's basement somewhere. The last thing I want is a level 5 dwarf (haha) providing me my OS.

Ironically, this post is almost on-topic for once, given the fact that the article is about the upcoming Windows release. Too bad it's posted in most of the commentaries where it IS off-topic.

By the way, I've never heard of Lunix. Would you care to explain what it is?

Big deal (1, Troll)

AlHunt (982887) | more than 5 years ago | (#26836589)

>users are again turning to illegal sources to get the new operating system."

I suppose it's almost obligatory, but "why"?, for heavens sake? Other than having a shiny new toy, who really cares? It's just the latest entry in a quarter century of same-old, same-old.

Ho hum ...

Re:Big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26836683)

Because it's vastly superior to Vista, and a lot of people are still forced to use Windows for their jobs, or simply prefer Windows to Linux. I prefer Linux to Windows, but I don't go around telling people what to use the same way they don't tell me to use Windows.

Re:Big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26836823)

That's a reason to use Windows 7 when it's actually released. But these builds aren't a stable platform for any serious work.

Re:Big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26838299)

You've not tried the beta, have you? 7000 is actually incredibly stable, much more stable than XP was when it went RTM.
I can't comment on these new builds, though, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were just as stable.

Re:Big deal (1)

NotPenny'sBoat (1475835) | more than 5 years ago | (#26836825)

I have to use Windows at work and would love to upgrade to 7 when it comes out, mostly because I'm a sucker for "shiny new toys", but the key for me is running Linux in a VM so that I can at least get my Unix/Linux fix.

Re:Big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26836955)

Well, that's in the employer's hand there.
When in our hands, the systems are blasted and a unix variant is put on it.. {qemu|vmware|virtualbox} runs everything we've ever needed that wasn't runnable under {wine|crossover office}.
Saves the frustration.

Re:Big deal (3, Interesting)

hwyhobo (1420503) | more than 5 years ago | (#26836969)

mostly because I'm a sucker for "shiny new toys", but the key for me is running Linux in a VM so that I can at least get my Unix/Linux fix

What is stopping you from doing it now? I am running the latest Slackware in a VM on my XP Pro laptop. Why do you need Windows 7 for that?

Re:Big deal (1)

NotPenny'sBoat (1475835) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837103)

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I am currently running XUbuntu in a VM on my XP Pro desktop. I just would like Windows 7 because it's pretty and I'm still superficial enough to be amused by that, even though I'll probably hate it after a week.

Re:Big deal (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837313)

you lover the cok

Re:Big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837285)

Seriously? I've used both (use Vista on a day to day basis, Windows 7 more from a testing point of view) and really haven't found much difference other than they made it uglier. But then, in all honesty I haven't really had ANY of the problems that people bitch about with Vista. It seems like a stable platform for most everything I've tried on it.

I still prefer a linux desktop to Windows any day of the week, but games and such just work better on windows (because they're made for it).

Re:Big deal (0)

djupedal (584558) | more than 5 years ago | (#26838297)

Once the public learned about the 3 app limit, the reason(s) to pirate (for those that must use MS products, at least) floated right back to the top of the priority list.

My suspicion about any P2P downloads... (5, Funny)

Eto_Demerzel79 (1011949) | more than 5 years ago | (#26836611)

...has always been that they contained malicious software that will slow down my computer and drain my bank account...this simply proved it!

Re:My suspicion about any P2P downloads... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26838207)

I have long suspected anything from thepiratebay to contain viruses, especially those linus things...

Post Beta? (5, Insightful)

WarJolt (990309) | more than 5 years ago | (#26836631)

Post-beta is really relative. I consider all windows OSes beta until 2 years after the initial release.

Re:Post Beta? (1)

Klaus_1250 (987230) | more than 5 years ago | (#26836813)

...until 2 years after the initial release.

Shouldn't that be two Service packs?

Re:Post Beta? (1)

ed.mps (1015669) | more than 5 years ago | (#26836945)

aren't these the same?

Re:Post Beta? (1)

GigaplexNZ (1233886) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837311)

Not really, it can take longer than two years for the second service pack to come along.

Re:Post Beta? (1)

SupremoMan (912191) | more than 5 years ago | (#26836827)

I agree with parent post. It takes years to get most of the kinks worked out of an OS. And probably same time to get good drivers for all your hardware.

Re:Post Beta? (1)

schizz69 (1239560) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837157)

Even well into their maturity, they still have bugs which MS loves refering to as 'Features' or 'By Design' I think the whole windows lineage is still in its Beta stage.

Re:Post Beta? (1)

AnEducatedNegro (1372687) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837247)

Even well into their maturity, they still have bugs which MS loves refering to as 'Features' or 'By Design'

Such as... I haven't heard anything like that since the Win98 days.

aEN

Re:Post Beta? (5, Funny)

SuperAndy (1414157) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837453)

It is effectively 2 years after the initial release. Vista came out in what, 2006?

Re:Post Beta? (1)

TheVelvetFlamebait (986083) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837703)

That's cute, but after their initial release, the Windows version is supported by Microsoft, thus taking out of the test-at-your-own-risk beta stage.

There have been a lot of leaks of Windows 7 (5, Insightful)

Fungii (153063) | more than 5 years ago | (#26836637)

Who's leaking the builds?

Either way, Microsoft are getting a lot of good free press from them so far, I don't think they'll really have to worry about piracy cutting into their profits too much.

Re:There have been a lot of leaks of Windows 7 (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26836889)

Most likely intentional. It gets people using it if they think they're doing something to stick it to Microsoft, while MSoft is in control the whole time.

Re:There have been a lot of leaks of Windows 7 (5, Funny)

SpaceLifeForm (228190) | more than 5 years ago | (#26836975)

Could be Steve, could be Bill.

"Leak 2.0" the new e-marketing campaign package! (5, Insightful)

quibbler (175041) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837617)

Get a fscking clue here people, This "leak" is a marketing project from the word go.

Step 1: Build a virtually-nonfunctional but highly stable show-off OS with all of the important (and wildly unstable) compatibility turned off.

Step 2: Leak said software as your next great release and bemoan the loss of your great surprise unveiling.

Step 3: Pay lots of reviewers to fill comment sites about how terrific the fantastic OS is before most have ever seen it.

Step 4: Enjoy a *positive* rollout on the heals of your abomination of a release called 'Vista' and that horseshit "not vista" campaign that followed.

Step 5: Profit

Re:"Leak 2.0" the new e-marketing campaign package (1)

ConceptJunkie (24823) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837779)

So you're saying Vista was "New Coke"?

I heard plenty of theories that New Coke was a gimmick to get people excited about Coke Classic and still pulling people from Pepsi. In other words, a few people actually like Vista and maybe MS are banking on Windows 7 to win back the flock that Vista drove off. I can guarantee I will never switch back to Microsoft, but a lot of people might if Windows 7 sucks a lot less than "Visturd".

Re:"Leak 2.0" the new e-marketing campaign package (1)

dave562 (969951) | more than 5 years ago | (#26838161)

I avoided Vista, in part because of all the negativity surrounding it here, and in part because of actual experience with it running on what should have been lightning fast hardware (dual core CPUs, 4gigs of RAM but integrated, onboard video). I've used the Windows 7 beta, and now I'm not too concerned about moving off of XP when the time comes. That isn't to say that I'm leaving XP anytime soon (much like I didn't leave Win2000 until long after XP SP2 was out.) However Windows 7 is to Vista what Win98SE was to WinME. In other words, they got it right, after a serious misstep.

Re:There have been a lot of leaks of Windows 7 (1)

davidsyes (765062) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837675)

Leaked my ass, hehehe.

I say that if these events lately are "leaks", then they make diarrhea seem like mild perspiration... butt, then that's my assessment...

Besides, as stated elsewhere here, they are riding the free-press curve. And, bored tabloids and trade rags are chomping at the logs for something to spre... um publish.

Re:There have been a lot of leaks of Windows 7 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26838193)

Leaks? Not hardly. You see, many persons who have followed my career on the screen and stage mistake me for a Jewess. This belief perhaps was strengthened when I married Ricardo Cortez, my third husband, the only one I ever really loved, and whom I am now trying to divorce.

Although I didn't find it out until almost a year after our marriage, Ric, instead of being a gallant Spanish caballero which I believed him, was the son of a kosher butcher, with a shop on First Avenue, New York City. His real name is Jacob Kranz.

You might ask what this has to do with Windows 7. Simple. Bill Gates's grandfather's name was not Gates, but Gatzkywicz. It was later anglicized to "Gates". In short, Gates is not a real American. He's a yid.

Does it include the "Versions"? (4, Interesting)

Doug52392 (1094585) | more than 5 years ago | (#26836735)

I'd be pretty surprised if this latest leaked build ends up giving us a sneak peak at what Microsoft's plans to butcher up Windows 7 into 5+ "versions" is. I'd like to try to use my computer with a 2-process limit, just to see how stupid that would be!

But, I suppose that would be BAD press...

Re:Does it include the "Versions"? (5, Informative)

Vu1turEMaN (1270774) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837047)

A 3 app limit, excluding microsoft programs, startup programs, and firewall/antivirus actually wouldn't be that bad for most people

Re:Does it include the "Versions"? (2, Interesting)

zonky (1153039) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837077)

Could you launch a startup program that can launch/wrap other executables as a way around it?

Re:Does it include the "Versions"? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837273)

I was wondering the same thing, but if you're willing to go to that extent just to get around the ridiculous limitations, you honestly might as well just pirate the damn thing.

Re:Does it include the "Versions"? (1)

Vu1turEMaN (1270774) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837697)

I don't know about that way, but I do know that figuring out how to make ordinary programs run as services would become popular again.

I also know that VMWare and similar programs would become popular, as would web-based apps. Running an OS in W7 off of VMWare would provide a great level of security, and getting important documents off of a laptop and hosting them on something like google docs and gmail would be almost necessary, and it wouldn't burden most power users that already do this.

I'd like to see something like this actually come about, so the people at my workplace can just run their Word, Excel, Outlook and Frontpage without worry, but would get yelled at for opening up anything more than Firefox. They honestly don't use more than 2 non-msoffice apps 90% of the time, cause if Office 2003 works, then why upgrade or change to OpenOffice?

Re:Does it include the "Versions"? (1)

dave562 (969951) | more than 5 years ago | (#26838227)

...if Office 2003 works, then why upgrade or change to OpenOffice?

Licensing costs and forced EOL. I'd be happy to stay on Office 2003 until 2013. It does everything that I need it to do. Microsoft will never let that happen though. They will EOL it, and then within 6 months there will be a "critical" patch that also happens to bork a DLL that Office relies on.

Re:Does it include the "Versions"? (4, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837589)

But the thing is, it is completely hard-coded in. For example, I won't complain if the largest file I can have on my hard drive is 300 GB because that is the limitations on the filesystem, however, if I could only have a 2 GB file unless I paid $50 for the "improved edition" I would complain loudly.

Secondly, this is a major lock in for MS. If by using Firefox, VLC, and a third-party game you can exceede your app limit, but if you use IE, Windows Media Player and some built-in Windows game, you don't. This is especially worrying in the developing countries where this will be sold.

Re:Does it include the "Versions"? (1)

Shados (741919) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837717)

Starter Edition is to be sold in all countries, unlike Vista's Starter. The basic edition, geared to developing countries, do not have that limitation.

Re:Does it include the "Versions"? (2, Interesting)

Vu1turEMaN (1270774) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837787)

Actually the limiting version would be for OEMs, and the one for developing countries would be different.

A 2gb file size limit is one thing (I've never even heard of that rumor yet), but an app limit is quite another. If you have dual monitors running where you can look at a firefox window while playing a game and some music running on vlc, then obviously the starter edition isn't for you. You probably want the equivalent of the Home one.

And I don't predict OEMs offering the Starter Edition as the base OS except on netbooks. The default option would probably be the Home equivalent.

Stop worrying so much about it. Get the features you want by picking the version with the same features. It has always been like that.

Re:Does it include the "Versions"? (2, Interesting)

EvanED (569694) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837993)

Secondly, this is a major lock in for MS. If by using Firefox, VLC, and a third-party game you can exceede your app limit, but if you use IE, Windows Media Player and some built-in Windows game, you don't.

This is a major [citation needed]. Both show up as separate processes, and since Vista, have little coupling with the rest of Windows components, except the help system which uses the HTML renderer from IE. (Unlike XP and before, when Windows Explorer and IE were very tied together.)

And easily hacked (1)

ArchieBunker (132337) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837741)

Want to bet how quickly someone releases patched files to unlock this 3 app limit?

Re:And easily hacked (1)

Vu1turEMaN (1270774) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837825)

Why?

I'd download Ultimate before I would download a patched Starter Edition.

Re:And easily hacked (4, Funny)

themacks (1197889) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837885)

How to hack Win7:

1. Search Registry for "MAX_APPS"
2. Change from 3 to 0

Re:Does it include the "Versions"? (1)

TheVelvetFlamebait (986083) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837843)

I wonder if IE will be counted in the number of running applications? If so, I can imagine other browsers will have a hard time competing with IE.

Re:Does it include the "Versions"? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837279)

1. You probably live in a western country - NO PROCESS LIMIT FOR YOU.

2. It's two versions for normal users. Basic and Premium! Power users could probably use professional. Ultimate is just for the extravagant.

Re:Does it include the "Versions"? (0)

ProfMobius (1313701) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837575)

Wrong, if you leave in an in-developpement country, you don't have the process limitation. The starter version (OEM version) have the limitation, and is available world wild. So, it is going to be Starter version with limitation for new computers, with the possibility for a paying upgrade to a full version.Starter is a teaser, and available everywhere.

Re:Does it include the "Versions"? (1)

Lennie (16154) | more than 5 years ago | (#26838001)

I thought they were targeting netbooks ?

Re:Does it include the "Versions"? (2, Informative)

EvanED (569694) | more than 5 years ago | (#26838037)

You probably live in a western country - NO PROCESS LIMIT FOR YOU.

As I was corrected yesterday, I'll pass on the favor to you: this is wrong. Unlike XP and Vista, the "starter edition" of Win7 is not the "developing nations" version of Windows. Instead, the starter edition is available worldwide, and is the discounted version intended for Netbooks and similar systems, and it is this version that will have the process limitation. In other words, to run Win7 on a Netbook you either have to put up with the process limitation or pay more for the non-starter edition.

(Win7 will have a developing nations version, called "Home Basic", but this is different. Basically, Home Basic and Starter Editions have swapped since Vista.)

Re:Does it include the "Versions"? (1)

Zarel (900479) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837293)

I'd be pretty surprised if this latest leaked build ends up giving us a sneak peak at what Microsoft's plans to butcher up Windows 7 into 5+ "versions" is. I'd like to try to use my computer with a 2-process limit, just to see how stupid that would be!

So would I, considering every non-final build of Vista and 7 so far have been "Ultimate". There's not really all that much point in artificially limiting versions of your software that aren't meant to be public in the first place.

Re:Does it include the "Versions"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837361)

> I'd like to try to use my computer with a 2-process limit, just to see how stupid that would be!

So, that gets you what? Perhaps System and the System Idle Process? Loads of fun to have there...

WTF. (0)

Forty Two Tenfold (1134125) | more than 5 years ago | (#26836789)

I can't understand WHY users would break the copyright to get this heap of crap on their computers... No, really.

Re:WTF. (5, Funny)

lymond01 (314120) | more than 5 years ago | (#26836993)

Haven't you heard? Konqueror may finally get some competition with this new IE 8.

Re:WTF. (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26836999)

From my impressions of it, in public release beta, they have came a long ways to make an OS that is actually intuitive to use. I've had very minimal bugs arise, and am quite pleased from this. I've used and been pleased with many versions of *nix, but 7 is a pleasant experience so far.

Re:WTF. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837223)

Probably the same reason it was done with Chicago/Windows 95, Windows 98, Whistler/Windows XP, Cairo/Windows NT 4 (the name spawned through like nearly a decade lol), and other operating systems. Simply to seee how they operate and know what the next incarnation of software is heading into.
Be it good or bad.

Re:WTF. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837267)

maybe they want their PC to be useful, unlike that linux piece of shit.

Re:WTF. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837289)

How can you not understand people installing a better OS than XP and Vista to replace their existing installation? Are you just sad because it's not your beloved Linux?

Re:WTF. (1)

Forty Two Tenfold (1134125) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837887)

How can you not understand people installing a better OS than XP and Vista to replace their existing installation?

Going from one version of Windows to the next is like getting from fire to a frying pan.

Are you just sad because it's not your beloved Linux?

So - not exactly sad it's not specifically Linux (could be *BSD or any other flavor of *nix). Just ... sad that people don't learn and still bend over backwards to stuff their Cadillacs of hardware with this... manure of software.

Re:WTF. (1)

EvanED (569694) | more than 5 years ago | (#26838091)

So - not exactly sad it's not specifically Linux (could be *BSD or any other flavor of *nix).

As someone who has used both Windows and Linux extensively, going to another flavor of *nix for me is like going from the frying pan into the oven, or something like that.

I have a ton of complaints about just about every OS in significant use, they just vary a lot. Windows tends to annoy me a little less than the others usually do, so I use that on my computers.

up your ass linsux faggots!!!!!! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837021)

go eat obama dick you faggot bitches. linux is dead. no one wants it on their desktop. not even suse. take that up your faggot asses.

20 fucking years and you still can't muster 2%? that's what i call limp.

Re:up your ass linsux faggots!!!!!! (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837229)

You are a big ol' fat doo-doo head.

Re:up your ass linsux faggots!!!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837429)

that's what i call limp.

That's simply because the average penis size of a GNU/Linux user is 20", it's limp because if it gets hard: we pass out from lack of blood.

Re:up your ass linsux faggots!!!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837609)

You lie! It's only 19.5 and you're rounding up.

Re:up your ass linsux faggots!!!!!! (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837655)

haha, Obama is hot isn't he?!

When you snap out of being in denial we'll be there for you honey [gaybuntu.com] .

Turning to illegal sources? (-1, Troll)

macraig (621737) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837253)

I can't speak for others, but I'm not turning to any source to get another version of Windows. When I'm well and truly done with Windows 2000, that is the last version of Windows I will use. The writing was on the wall with Windows XP; I bought my copy of Windows 2000 on the day that Windows XP was released. Some of you may have no choice because of job or career; it will no doubt be useful for me to retain some knowledge for the benefit of family and friends still handcuffed to it, but for myself I have chosen not to reward Microsoft further for what I consider is a job poorly done.

Is Microsoft crippled beyond repair? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837393)

BREAKING: Microsoft critically wounded by Internet assailant

In what appears to be yet another PR nightmare for the software giant, today Internet user macraig made scathing comments on the highly reputable Slashdot ORG site. Calling all Microsoft operating systems after Windows 2000, "a job poorly done" and noting that Windows has family and friends "hand-cuffed" to it, macraig assaulted the company with fierce textual blows. He even implied he would not infringe copyrights to obtain the newest Windows 7 operating system, a rather heinous indictment in this Web 2.0 world of P2P. "It was wanton, it was unnecessary," said one page viewer. Another user by the name of Anonymous Coward said he didn't know what to think after he read macraig's comments, only remarking on how "gruesome" the spectacle was.

Whether Microsoft will fully recover from this battery of attacks, no one will know. They were unavailable for comment. We will continue to keep you posted on this breaking news story.

Next, do you let your children go outside? Stay tuned as our team exposes the shocking link between sexual predators and children going outside!

Re:Turning to illegal sources? (4, Insightful)

Cassius Corodes (1084513) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837419)

I don't get this - If you haven't used a windows OS since 2000, how can you say it a "job poorly done".

For my 2c, XP is a very well rounded operating system - part of the reason MS is finding it so hard to move people from it.

MS Marketing Droids working at 150% Capacity (5, Interesting)

owlnation (858981) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837283)

So do we really need to have a Windows 7 article every day? It's in beta, it changes -- and it's not exactly eagerly awaited anyway.

So, other than MS promoting this as much as the possibly can -- is there any need to have any articles on it at all, unless there's a major change?

Re:MS Marketing Droids working at 150% Capacity (4, Interesting)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837433)

By some, maybe. Personally, I'm looking forward to upgrading my Vista Tablet PC to Windows 7. I hear it's faster and has quite a few improvements, like the new task bar. So some people -are- eagerly awaiting it.

Re:MS Marketing Droids working at 150% Capacity (-1, Troll)

bit01 (644603) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837499)

By some, maybe. Personally, I'm looking forward to upgrading my Vista Tablet PC to Windows 7. I hear it's faster and has quite a few improvements, like the new task bar. So some people -are- eagerly awaiting it.

If you make any decisions based on anything other than the final released product then you are a fool. Until then the marketing parasites are just wasting your time.

I'd suggest you find something more worthwhile to do with your life. Content free marketing drivel is a great way to waste a life.

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Adopt an astroturfer [wikipedia.org] . Make their life hell.

After all these years, (4, Interesting)

christoofar (451967) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837307)

I still cannot fathom why people scramble to get the latest copy of a Windows OS way before it's really even declared "ready."

It's not like your development software is really going to work on the thing; and for that matter--we all know once it finally gets pressed to a DVD the first Service Pack is already on its way out the door, so QA-testing is moot.

Re:After all these years, (2, Funny)

Koiu Lpoi (632570) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837481)

Call me EXTREMELY OPTIMISTIC if you want, but we can hope that all these leaked betas with the little "send feedback" button would lead to less shittiness at launch.

Re:After all these years, (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837537)

I still cannot fathom why people scramble to get the latest copy of a Windows OS way after it's really even declared "ready."

There, fixed that for you.

here's why (5, Insightful)

Joe U (443617) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837631)

I still cannot fathom why people scramble to get the latest copy of a Windows OS way before it's really even declared "ready."

Mostly because it's going to be the dominant OS for the next 5+ years and maybe, just maybe, they want to get familiar with it as soon as possible.

Windows still has about 88% of the market. That means, on average, out of 100 people, 1 uses linux, 9 use MacOS, 2 use another OS and 88 use Windows.

Think about that for a moment, 88% vs 1%. The question should be, why do we care about the latest build of anything else?

Re:here's why (1)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837759)

That means, on average, out of 100 people, 1 uses linux, 9 use MacOS, 2 use another OS and 88 use Windows.

Ok, explain to me the 2% that other desktop OSes have. Out of all the alternative OSes, Plan 9, BSD, etc. all of them combined do not equal 2%. Now, you could be comparing device OSes but that kinda skews the data a bit because the person who uses the iPhone OS is going to use a different OS for computing needs.

Secondly, where did you get these figures from? Websites usually have a certain slant to them, for example, Distro Watch is going to be visited by a higher proportion of Linux users than who usually use Linux, just as a Microsoft Knowledge base article will under represent non-Windows platforms. Similarly, a Mac-focused blog is going to get more OS X users than Windows/Linux users.

Re:here's why (1)

pohl (872) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837917)

Ah, how that brings me back in time to the mentality that made the latter half of the 90's the golden age of computing: "Everybody run to the starboard side of the boat at the same time...wonderful things will happen, I promise!"

Re:After all these years, (2, Funny)

JorDan Clock (664877) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837725)

Yeah, it's like all those people using beta versions of Ubuntu. You know in 6 months they're just going to release another one.

Re:After all these years, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26837803)

I download the betas (not the constantly leaked ones but major milestones) so I can test my software.

I do a lot of low level (in terms of integration to a specific version of Windows) programming and its nice to be able to look at the changes and update my software before everything goes live.

Of interest to a developer like myself include things like the changes to the Kernel32.DLL structure and IAT redirects to lots of sub-dlls. New exports in NTDLL which I need to handle for my module finding software, etc.

If you're a low level developer you really want to be able to take a poke around before things go gold. I know you're going to say "things are subject to change" and yes they are, but usually when things like the above are changed it's "permanent" (or rather, as permanent as it's ever gonna be).

Re:After all these years, (1)

c6gunner (950153) | more than 5 years ago | (#26838279)

I still cannot fathom why people scramble to get the latest copy of a Windows OS way before it's really even declared "ready."

Well, I don't know about everyone else, but my reason is simple. I was avoiding Vista like the plague, until just recently I finally decided to install it for compatibility with some games. In order to minimize the performance hit, I used vLite to rip everything out of it that I possibly could, but I'm still seeing some issues that I don't like. Since Windows 7 is essentially a better-working version of Vista, and since I'm still unhappy with Vista, I'm looking to install it ASAP. I've got nothing to lose. Worst case scenario I'll just downgrade to XP again, which I've been considering ever since I installed Vista.

The Uncomfortable Truth (0, Troll)

slugtastic (1437569) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837491)

the new operating system

You'd think that, but you'd be wrong.

Wow, cool, yet another windows 7 beta leaked again (1)

MrKaos (858439) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837627)

ZZZZZZZZZZZ it's so interesting ZZZZZZ it's so l33+ zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Illegal sources? (1)

QuietLagoon (813062) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837767)

More likely - Microsoft is "leaking" the new build to create a buzz of anticipation in the user community.

32 Bit (4, Informative)

ady1 (873490) | more than 5 years ago | (#26837863)

The leaked beta is 32bit only.

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