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Samsung Releases Solar-Powered Phone

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 5 years ago | from the measure-your-carbon-footprint-epeen dept.

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Mike writes to tell us that Samsung has released their latest green gadget, a solar-powered mobile phone. The "Blue Earth" phone has the entire reverse side covered with a solar panel, and the body of the phone is made from recycled water bottles. "The device is set to be energy efficient, with a new user interface making it easy to activate the phone's energy saving mode. It also includes a pedometer, and CO2 emissions calculator, and Samsung is aiming for minimal packaging made entirely from recycled paper. Samsung is clearly throwing the gauntlet to all phone manufacturers, and we hope to see solar cells integrated throughout the rest of their line. The phone will be unveiled on February 16th at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona."

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Solar-powered? (1, Funny)

Hogwash McFly (678207) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850563)

But I live in my parent's basement you insensitive clod!

Re:Solar-powered? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26851789)

Who modded this Troll?
It's a well known fact that basements have poor sunlight incidence!!! WTF?!

Nokia did this years ago (1)

quenda (644621) | more than 5 years ago | (#26853339)

I had a solar-cell battery on my first Nokia - 1610/freestyle. Not sure how long ago, but the SIM was credit-card sized, and the battery was about 5x13cm (2"x5") so plenty of room for a big solar panel on the back :)

except it's no longer mobile. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26850579)

So this is a mobile phone, but I can't just leave it in my pocket? Or in my car unless I put it on the dash and park in the sun? OK..... and this is an improvement how?

Re:except it's no longer mobile. (0, Redundant)

spud603 (832173) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850835)

Either you're missing the point or you're a troll.
It still has a battery, and can still be charged from the grid. It just also can be charged by the sun.

Suspiciously absent: Battery details (3, Insightful)

jandrese (485) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850591)

So the first question that comes to my mind when someone says "solar powered cellphone" isn't "does it have a pedometer", but rater "how long does it take to recharge and how long does the battery last". For some reason TFA answered my first question, but not the second.

Right now I tend to recharge my phone at night because I use it during the day. This could be a problem with a solar powered cell phone. If it's power efficient enough that I can leave it on my desk at work (under standard fluorescent lighting) and keep it fully charged then this could be great. If I have to leave it on a windowsill in direct sunlight for half of the day every day, it's far less practical.

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (5, Funny)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850681)

Right now I tend to recharge my phone at night
This wouldn't be a problem if you lived in Australia. When it is night in the USA it is daylight there.

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (2, Funny)

girlintraining (1395911) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850833)

This wouldn't be a problem if you lived in Australia. When it is night in the USA it is daylight there.

I think I see a flaw in your cunning plan: They don't sell 4,000 mile long extension cords at Home Depot.

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26850927)

I...smell...NICHE MARKET!!11! :D









(lameness filter is laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame)

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (1)

davester666 (731373) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850959)

Fedex!

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (2, Funny)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850983)

I think I see a flaw in your cunning plan: They don't sell 4,000 mile long extension cords at Home Depot.

DIY and make your own!

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851517)

"DIY and make your own!"

OK, you win. That's the most redundant thing ever posted on /.

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (1)

stevey (64018) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851523)

So you buy 2 x 2,000 mile long extension cables? Then join them together?

You are a genius, sir!

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (1)

rts008 (812749) | more than 5 years ago | (#26853407)

It's just an adapter away...

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (1)

chris_mahan (256577) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851273)

You mean 12000 miles long extension cords, right?

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26851777)

Not if you drill straight through. Pfft, the number of people who waste copper by going around walls and planets...

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26851521)

You could just string together ~3 million 25' extension cords*, which you'll easily find in any hardware store.

*length based on google's directions from LA to Sydney. Which, btw, I'm not sure their algorithm is all that great. It had me going way out of my way and over several toll roads.

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (1)

djupedal (584558) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850971)

A similarly configured Chinese mobile phone takes one hour to recharge with forty minutes talk time. Sit near a window or go outside...the sunlight will do you good :)

Solar charging is simply one attribute of the overall 'green' theme, which includes being made of and packaged in recycled materials. The take-away is the move towards 'green', not just solar charging.

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (2, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851255)

"does it have a pedometer"

Won't somebody think of the children?

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (3, Funny)

camperdave (969942) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851737)

Won't somebody think of the children?

Relax! A pedometer is simply a device used to measure the height of children. It typically consists of a vertical markable surface like a doorframe or wall, a pencil, and a tape measure.

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26852251)

Won't somebody think of the children?

Relax! A pedometer is simply a device used to measure the height of children. It typically consists of a vertical markable surface like a doorframe or wall, a pencil, and a tape measure.

you earned your "whooosh"

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 5 years ago | (#26852309)

Won't somebody think of the children?

Relax! A pedometer is simply a device used to measure the height of children. It typically consists of a vertical markable surface like a doorframe or wall, a pencil, and a tape measure.

you earned your "whooosh"

As did you.

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851399)

I'd be worried about the battery's overall lifetime. Lithium ion, the only reasonable choice for modern cellphone applications, doesn't last forever as it is, and dies faster if kept at elevated temperatures. Making a phone that encourages the user to leave it lying in bright sunlight seems like a potential issue. That said, I'm just a guy spouting off on the internet, Samsung could easily have run the numbers and determined that the battery will only die 10% faster, or some acceptable value; but that would be my concern.

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851509)

It also comes with a charger.

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (1)

drpt (1257416) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851581)

you could use a couple of mercury vapor lights and make a charging station

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26851899)

It also has a battery you fucking moron, the solar panel just adds the ability to charge in the sun AS WELL AS the ability charge via a normal charger.

What is it with people thinking this? You're the third fucking idiot in the thread to think that solar panels and charging jacks are mutually exclusive.

Please report to a culling station. You're diluting my gene pool.

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (1)

snero3 (610114) | more than 5 years ago | (#26852021)

I love this idea, I think that you have missed the whole idea of the phone admittedly it TFA didn't really point it out that well.

The first reason I love this one is what it is made out of. If you are like me your phone will only last 1 year dude to abuse. So if the phone is already made of recyclable materials I feel less guilty when I get rid of it a year later.

The second reason is the solar changer. Again I think you missed the point of the solar part of this phone (and the author of the article did to). I don't believe the the solar panel is there to charge the phone completely from zero(it has a wall charger for that), but rather it is there to add a little charge to the phone from time to time. For people that don't spend 99% of there life in doors IE out in the sun and away from wall sockets then this can be a real boon.

Re:Suspiciously absent: Battery details (1)

fractoid (1076465) | more than 5 years ago | (#26853335)

So the first question that comes to my mind when someone says "solar powered cellphone" isn't "does it have a pedometer", but rater "how long does it take to recharge and how long does the battery last".

I think the second part is important, especially as high temperatures tend to dramatically shorten the lifespan of Lithium batteries. Leaving your phone in the car or in direct sunlight on a hot day can make it very hot, I can't imagine it would be very good for a battery to be in a small black enclosure that's regularly left in the sun.

The problem with that: (3, Insightful)

DurendalMac (736637) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850597)

Most mobile phones stay in your pocket until you're ready to use them. When they're out, your hand is generally wrapped around the back. That kinda screws up the whole solar powered angle. The only time it might be useful is if you leave it sitting out in the sun when the battery dies. That's assuming you can set it down without getting it stolen. It sounds a lot more like a marketing gimmick than a useful feature.

Re:The problem with that: (1)

zigmeister (1281432) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850685)

TFA shows an app on the phone that says how many trees you saved. What I don't get about green types is just that. I'll be the first to admit that this planet would really suck without trees, but why does it matter if we just replant after harvesting? Do trees have feelings that I'm not aware of? I'm really getting sick of tangential "green" products/methods/processes that wouldn't matter in the first place if your not an idiot with your resources. (i.e. suitable land, environment etc for trees)

Re:The problem with that: (1)

Smallpond (221300) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850871)

I don't think you appreciate the difference between natural forest and a clear-cut, replanted tree farm. It's like grass vs. astroturf. The replanted area is lacking all of the birds, plants, mammals, even bugs and microbes that are in the ecology of natural forest. It takes 100 years for a forest to recover from being clear cut. Trees might be what people think of as a forest, but they are only one element.

That said, it does seem kind of silly to talk about solar cells "saving trees".

Re:The problem with that: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26850915)

If you keep replanting after logging, then after a while you will be logging the area you previously replanted. I don't know you would replant if you don't plan to log that are again, so everything should be good. This idea makes me so happy that I'm burning 500 sheets of unused paper, just to do my part to help the replanting effort!

Re:The problem with that: (1)

inviolet (797804) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851155)

I don't think you appreciate the difference between natural forest and a clear-cut, replanted tree farm. It's like grass vs. astroturf. The replanted area is lacking all of the birds, plants, mammals, even bugs and microbes that are in the ecology of natural forest.

As the owner of a replanted tree farm that is now 19 years old, I think you should know that your eloquent conjecture is completely false.

It takes 100 years for a forest to recover from being clear cut.

While you've got your hand in there, can you also pull some winning lottery tickets or perhaps a Grand Unified Field Theory out of your ass?

Trees might be what people think of as a forest, but they are only one element.

Yes, and the other elements waste no time in returning -- the whole "unfilled niches" or "available energy" thing. Sometimes the newcomers are different species than were there originally -- perhaps this offends your romanticized sense of 'natural'.

That said, it does seem kind of silly to talk about solar cells "saving trees".

Indeed it does, especially since more trees will get planted in response to increased demand for paper and wood products. Recycling reduces demand and hence ruins the economic incentive for preserving or creating a forest on one's property. I myself am directly affected by pulpwood prices, and every paper recycling program is a thorn in my side, encouraging me to ditch the trees and put the land to more profitable use.

Re:The problem with that: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26851769)

If you can sell your trees for paper and cardboard, sell them for wood. I know I wouldn't want to build things with "recycled wood" and I'm sure I'm not alone.

Re:The problem with that: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26850883)

*scratches head* Isn't CO2 tree food? I'd think the more coal and oil you burn, the more trees you feed.

Re:The problem with that: (1)

BikeHelmet (1437881) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851215)

Three things...

1) If the trees actually get replanted, then that's fine, but despite the claims that "more trees are being replanted than harvested", the amount of planted forest is still shrinking quite rapidly. :P

Perhaps forest is being cleared to make room for cities and farms, or for other reasons, but it's still getting cut all over the world!

2) Creating water bottles makes a lot of pollution, and is quite bad for the environment. It's nice to see them recycling plastic rather than manufacturing it fresh.

3) Trees do not appear to have feelings or emotions, but they could be aware of their surroundings to some degree.

Studies have found that trees grow better when near siblings, parents, and children. Some scientists believe it's chemical similarities that are responsible for that - certain plants(weeds in particular) release chemicals that inhibit other plants growing, and help plants of the same species to grow. Since a "family" of plants would be quite biologically similar - or at least, more similar than plants of the same species growing hundreds of miles apart - the "family" of plants would grow best together.

So although trees may not think or have emotion, they display biological felial/parental responses.

Hopefully I worded that correctly.

Re:The problem with that: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26850697)

I'm assuming you can also plug it in to charge, in which case it is a very useful feature. Battery dead? No charger? Problem solved.

I'm sure you can figure out how to set your phone down without it getting stolen.

Re:The problem with that: (3, Interesting)

Gerald (9696) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850717)

My use case is the opposite of yours. I use my phone infrequently enough that it has to bug me to charge it. I'd love to have one that could charge itself while lying face-down on my desk.

The pedometer and CO2 calculator? Meh.

Re:The problem with that: (1)

joebok (457904) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850745)

I keep my phone in my pocket now because there isn't any reason not to. If I were able to charge it via solar, I would look for opportunities to take it out and do so. So I think it isn't 100% gimmick.

Re:The problem with that: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26850775)

No... just opens up a niche market for "cell phone holder hats", "wrist carriers", "inverted man-purses", etc.

Remember kids - cell phones don't cause cancer... It's the environment, stupid!
Strap one to your dome today!

Re:The problem with that: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26851147)

Id get one. Be handy out bush. Long drives where the phone could sit on the dash of the car, long as it wasn't to hot too pick up straight away. Hell, if there reasonably priced I may get one just for emergencies. Also its not often I go far out enough on a boat to get out of signal range, Id use the phone first before using an eprib if I got into any trouble. Seems expensive scrambling the chopper n response team cos my outboard wont start.

Re:The problem with that: (1)

smoker2 (750216) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851329)

Yeah, like all those solar powered calculators with the solar panel ON THE FRONT !

Re:The problem with that: (1)

smoker2 (750216) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851363)

Yes I realise this phone has the panels on the back, but which way up would you leave if it had solar panels ...

Re:The problem with that: (1)

Fumus (1258966) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851361)

How about a new trendy hat with a phone pocket?
You'd look retarded and it would be begging to get stolen, but would charge easily.

Re:The problem with that: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26851959)

IT HAS A FUCKING CHARGER AS WELL!

Will you fucking retarded morons who think that that having a solar panel excludes the possibility of it having a battery and charging jack AS WELL just FUCK OFF AND DIE already.

what, is this International Stupid Day or something?

Re:The problem with that: (1)

mgblst (80109) | more than 5 years ago | (#26852045)

Only if you are out walking all day long. Don't you have a desk at work, is so then just pull it out and put it near the window. Or in your car, pull it out and put it on the seat next to you. See, not so hard.

Re:The problem with that: (1)

priegog (1291820) | more than 5 years ago | (#26852353)

Well, sure, but given how cheap solar cells are nowadays, aside from design costs I don't think adding a solar cell would add up to more than 5 bucks or something like that. For the few times that this feature might be useful it might actually not be such a bad idea... But really, in other to make a "greener" phone they NEED to start designing these things with longer userful live's in mind. 18 months average is awfully small. The laptop I'm writing this on is going to be six years soon, why couldn't my phone do that? They need to make the hardware more durable and the batteries' lives too (a-la OLPC). THEN would we be making a positive (or at least less negative) impact on earth.

Re:The problem with that: (1)

kenj0418 (230916) | more than 5 years ago | (#26852995)

A smarter plan would be to have a cell phone that charges by being in your pocket while you walk around during the day. Sort of like the flashlights that you shake to get a charge.: http://www.modernoutpost.com/gear/details/ee_shakelight.html [modernoutpost.com]

IANA-Electrical Engineer, but seems like a more common use case than a phone sitting in direct sunlight.
(I'm sure the whole thing is just a 'look at us - we're green!' marketing stunt anyway) (Not that I RFTA'd or anything like that)

Long hike (1)

seanadams.com (463190) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850605)

I have been kicking around the idea of doing the Appalachian trail and although I obviously want to get off grid, it would be nice to have a phone in case of life or death emergency. I wonder if this thing is small small and light... in that case, the built-in solar would be just the ticket.

Re:Long hike (2, Informative)

hguorbray (967940) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850771)

Given the fact that much of the AT is remote wilderness cell coverage is probably pretty spotty

unfortunately satellite phones are a little too expensive as they would be a better alternative

Good Luck with the AT hike

my gf has wanted to hike parts of the AT for ages -maybe someday

Also highly recommend -Bill Bryson's book on the AT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Walk_in_the_Woods:_Rediscovering_America_on_the_Appalachian_Trail [wikipedia.org]

-I'm just sayin'

Re:Long hike (1)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850949)

I have been kicking around the idea of doing the Appalachian trail and although I obviously want to get off grid, it would be nice to have a phone in case of life or death emergency.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/13/digicel-launching-ztes-coral-200-solar-phone-in-emerging-market/ [engadget.com]

"It may not have the glam or the flash of the Samsung Blue Earth, but ZTE's Coral-200-Solar takes solar power to a side of the market that needs it far, far more urgently -- the side without power outlets. The Chinese manufacturer is teaming up with Jamaica's Digicel Group to roll out one of the world's first mass-market solar cellphones to folks with "limited or no access to the power grid," which represents some 2 billion people around the globe."

Samsung's phone is just a shiny lifestyle phone.
ZTE's Coral-200-Solar actually embodies what you'd expect from a solar phone.

Re:Long hike (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 5 years ago | (#26852033)

I think you'd be better off with a solar backpack and the phone you already have. That being said, I suspect most of the Appalachian Trail has rather poor cellular coverage. In Washington state, I couldn't even connect while hiking Mt. St. Helens, which is pretty close to a major metropolitan area, despite having line-of-sight for about a 50 mile radius.

Sorry to rain on the parade... (1)

mail2345 (1201389) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850613)

But how much will this thing cost? Or is there some other cost in practicality?

looks sharp too (1)

SoupGuru (723634) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850631)

I must compliment them for not compromising size and looks for the latest fads. That way it's not a gimmick and you won't just sell it to the treehuggers, you can sell it to the masses.

The solar cells are where? (2, Interesting)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850651)

The back of the phone doesn't seem the most reasonable place for them. Most people after all use their hand to hold on to the phone while talking - hence covering up the back of the phone while using it. And those who use bluetooth are often carrying the phone in their pocket, where one generally doesn't find much sun light, either.

It looks like someone didn't do all their homework on this one...

Re:The solar cells are where? (1)

nextekcarl (1402899) | more than 5 years ago | (#26852349)

It seems if you had a backpack or something with the solar cells on it, and a connection (maybe inside in the backpack?) to plug into devices to recharge them it would make a lot more sense than having each device have the solar cells on it.

Re:The solar cells are where? (1)

John Hasler (414242) | more than 5 years ago | (#26852487)

> It seems if you had a backpack or something...

A hat. A big, wide hat, covered with solar cells. Prevent skin cancer and save the world at the same time.

Of course, unless Apple sells it it won't be cool.

Re:The solar cells are where? (1)

nextekcarl (1402899) | more than 5 years ago | (#26852593)

A solar sombrero?

Re:The solar cells are where? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26852545)

I really cannot remember the last time someone talked on their handy without a bluetooth set. Why would you want to talk on the phone directly? To get cancer?

Re:The solar cells are where? (1)

damn_registrars (1103043) | more than 5 years ago | (#26852625)

Why would you want to talk on the phone directly? To get cancer?

Yeah, because bluetooth works on pure magic, and doesn't use any radio waves or anything else that we were previously worried about. Bluetooth actually works with little multilingual fairies carrying your voice through the air to your phone.

And of course, if you're using a bluetooth there's a good chance your phone is in your pocket - we all know that nothing down there can get cancer, either.

Re:The solar cells are where? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26852709)

Homework?

Let's see - People want to believe that they are being green.

GM sells a Hummer with a big eco-unfriendly nickel battery in it, at a huge premium. Walmart is painting itself in a big green banner. Sony sells TVs with the EnergyStar logo that draw 20 watts when they are off. GE sells refrigerators with the EnergyStar logo that cannot be used in the energy saver mode.

Clearly you have confused marketing with reality. Please remove your tinfoil hat and proceed to the nearest Walmart for reprogramming.

Re:The solar cells are where? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26853391)

So you NEVER put down your phone? For fuck sakes, when did talking on the telephone become a fucking 24x7 undertaking for so many people?

Light of day? (1)

MMC Monster (602931) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850653)

Do phones generally get a lot of sunlight?

Kudos to them if the solar panel actually generates more energy than the energy cost of producing the panel. My cell phone is on my hip and I barely get enough light to keep from turning a pastey shade of grey. My wife's phone is generally in her pocketbook.

Small design flaw. (1)

ColaMan (37550) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850701)

(checks image)

So...... beautiful,glossy front screen.... which will be face-down 90% of the time on all sorts of unforgiving surfaces.

The production version had better have a slightly raised edge all around that screen, otherwise it's going to be scratched in record time.

Solar powered, eh? (1)

CrimsonAvenger (580665) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850725)

With this new phone, I'd have to leave it laying around during the daytime instead of letting it spend the day in my pocket. Which lowers the convenience of a cellphone considerably - normally mine is in my pocket until bedtime.

In other words, not a terribly useful modification to the basic cellphone.

Recycled water bottles (1)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850739)

the body of the phone is made from recycled water bottles.

Recycled water bottles, huh? How many calls can you make with it before it becomes toxic?

Oh wait, that was an urban legend [wikipedia.org] .

thermal model (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26850791)

meh, i'd rather have one that was powered by the heat of my thigh.

Re:thermal model (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26851657)

Ew

Green Plastic (1)

elcorvax (1395311) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850793)

The body of the phone is made out of recycled water bottles and has no brominated flame retardants, beryllium and phthalates - all incredibly toxic substances.

This could be a real improvement, at the rate that people change cellphones now, the amount of the old tech trash is outrageous, so this could help to minimize the impact if it become a standard

Samsung Releases Solar-Powered Phone (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26850795)

GREAT! I'M GONNA SMASH A HOLE IN MY DICK!

Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.

Sounded cool at first... (1)

Zakabog (603757) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850877)

It sounded cool at first, I was thinking they'd have a solar panel charging device. Plug your phone into it while you're at work if you work in the day time by a window, and have it charge like that.

This phone is far from that. Putting a solar panel on a phone seems rather useless, unless you intend to leave it out in the sun all the time. When you're walking around outside your phone will be in your pocket, when you're using it, your hand will cover the panel. Plus most people charge their phones at night, when there is no sun out to charge the phone. They've got the right idea but they're doing it all wrong.

Re:Sounded cool at first... (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851387)

Typical engineer, always thinking of why it won't work.

Now if you had real brains, like the guys in marketing, you'd be thinking of building the solar panels into a free hat. Or something.

In the event of a software failure (1)

kkrajewski (1459331) | more than 5 years ago | (#26850989)

Please place your phone in a dark place to reset.

Or,
(walks under tree) Can you hear me now?

My pocket and my hand (1)

pieisgood (841871) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851037)

So do I need to keep this phone on a clip on my belt so it can get some sun? I mean when I call people my hand will be pretty much all over those panels and they won't get any light. Does it recharge in the seconds it takes me to put the phone back in my pocket? And when will the panels be facing the sun? Do I need to hold the phone up when i use it for texting. This idea is retarded.

Nitpick (1)

Daetrin (576516) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851065)

"Samsung is clearly throwing the gauntlet to all phone manufacturers"

I believe there should be a "down" in there. As in "Samsung is clearly throwing the gauntlet down to all phone manufacturers." "Throwing the gauntlet to all phone manufacturers" makes it sound like they're just having a nice relaxing game of gauntlet catch.

yes, nice, samsung! (1)

cadu (876004) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851141)

nice thinking, covering a device that stays the whole day in our pockets with solar panels. i guess you guys aren't being green at all, coz it's just a waste of perfectly usable solar panels....

and don't get me started on putting it in the car near the winshield, do that in the $REALWORLD and you know what happens :)

just my 2 yen.

A pedometer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26851225)

is a measuring device that can sense how much child pornography you have stored in your phone. It accomplishes this by detecting the amount of twist the radio waves picks up as they pass through the digital photographic film. In short, you can see how twisted you are.

Solar powered (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851281)

So if you're on one of those plans that gives cheap or free minutes at night/evening, it's not a great deal of use?

Incorporate the "jot charge"... (1)

278MorkandMindy (922498) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851287)

... and they will be on a winner!

Over excited (1)

Attila the Bun (952109) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851371)

Must buy green phone ... chuck out old gas-guzzling phone ... save planet ... feel warm and fuzzy ...

Er, how much energy does it take to make the solar cells?

Nokia did this (the solar part) 12 years ago! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26851435)

http://press.nokia.com/PR/199703/775637_5.html

The actual phone (1610)looked pretty much the same than this Samsung here.

Re:Nokia did this (the solar part) 12 years ago! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26851513)

Ahem. Okay, maybe they didn't look that much the same. Anyways I think Nokia made those batteries for other phones (for example the infamous "venttikymppi" aka 2110) too.

Solar is nice, but... (1)

webdog314 (960286) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851641)

Wouldn't it be a better idea to generate power by walking instead of putting it into a lousy pedometer? The sun doesn't _usually_ shine too brightly into the pockets of my pants. Besides, what do I need a pedometer for anyway? That's what GPS is for.

I'm actually interested. (1)

Anachragnome (1008495) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851643)

I remember being in a position once where I was stranded(had my wallet stolen) and the only way out of the situation was to make a phone call, only my phone battery was almost dead. I made the call, but got cut-off right after I explained my situation, but before I could relay my location. I ended up having to hunt for someone to borrow a phone from(easier said then done).

With this phone, it wouldn't have been a problem. I could simply have sat down in the sun, and waited to be able to make a call.

I can also think of situations in the back-country, where a tower is accessible for a signal, but no place to charge a battery.

Could actually save a life.

Watching the clouds drifting by (1)

westlake (615356) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851967)

I could simply have sat down in the sun, and waited to be able to make a call.

How long will you be waiting - and what is the range?

Re:Watching the clouds drifting by (1)

Anachragnome (1008495) | more than 5 years ago | (#26852649)

My point is that it is better then NO battery juice.

While it may take awhile, your not totally screwed.

Better then dying at the bottom of a cliff, after lingering there miserably for days, all because your phone battery was dead.

You saved 6.5 trees. Total 2014 trees. (2, Insightful)

ChangeOnInstall (589099) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851741)

http://www.inhabitat.com/wp-content/uploads/samsungblueearth2.jpg [inhabitat.com]

I don't get it. How are you saving trees with this phone? Has Samsung employed a gang of vigilante loggers to cut them down if you do not walk a certain distance per day using the phone as a pedometer in "Eco walk" mode? Has there been a new scientific discovery that CO2 may in fact kill trees, negating the previous data that it is neutral or possibly even beneficial toward plant growth?

Kinetic is smarter (2, Insightful)

twoblink (201439) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851751)

If you carry your cell phone on your persons as most do, then a kinetic system is better than solar. Most of the time, my cell is in my pocket, and so there is no light.

Charging Solution (2, Insightful)

SinGunner (911891) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851835)

This would work great if your job was outdoors and you had it clipped to your belt. Seems like it'd work well for construction?

Ok, so it saves trees. (1)

balbord (447248) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851917)

But does it give a report on the rare metals mined in deep Africa needed to build it?

The geek-factor on one of these is huge and I'd be all over it like a prussian woodpecker over a Louis XIII Antique Chair, but all this greenness only makes sense to those willing to ignore the un-greenness of the whole manufacturing process.

Bah. Why don't they just strap a mini gas turbine?

What OS? (1)

Willbur (196916) | more than 5 years ago | (#26851985)

It looks vaguely android-esque. The clock looks the same, but there isn't a little tabby thing on the bottom of the screen - except there is a little tabby thing on one side.

Is it Android? Or is cloned from the Android UI? Or is it just parallel evolution?

Samsung has announced using Android for other phones.

Green This (1)

Zero_DgZ (1047348) | more than 5 years ago | (#26852071)

I like the idea of this. A solar powered phone would be great (provided solar charging isn't the ONLY) option when I'm on the road or on a camping trip, or burn up all by battery life playing Tetris on the bus. Flip it over, leave it next to a window, forget about.

What I'm not altogether keen on is the contrivance of bundling this with the "green" fad. I don't give two shits about how many trees the manufacturer hugged with designing the packaging, and I, for one, think that moulding phones out of recycled water bottles is more than a bit daft. Even if the phone doesn't wind up clear and crinkly, I don't think water bottle plastic of questionable origin and quality is a great idea for the casing of an expensive gizmo with a big fragile solar panel on the back.

big deal, China beat you to it (1)

zelik (1131765) | more than 5 years ago | (#26852227)

This is old news, there are a BUNCH of Chinese made cell phones being sold on infomercials in China with solar charging capabilities. They've been selling these for years....Here's a nicer looking example [inhabitat.com] I quickly found just searching...not a fair representation of the lot because there are quite a few very repulsive looking ones.

How good are they? I'm not sure as I've never used one but as far as I can tell from the ultra-cheesy infomercials, these phones are light years ahead of what the big cellphone makers are offering (heavy sarcasm). In fact, one ad I've seen mentioned 1 month standby time plus solar charging = no need for conventional wall charger!

Actually, for kicks please read the link I just posted, there's a claim of purporting 40 minutes of talk time when charged by candlelight!

For an example of how outlandish their infomercials are, check out this miracle vaginal cream [revver.com] . Contains English voice-over. I love China!

Get a life (1)

crevistontj (1032976) | more than 5 years ago | (#26852255)

You people who shit all over every single new product need hobbies or something. Just because it doesn't work for you or isn't exactly what you need or can't play Ogg Vorbis files and doesn't run Ubuntu 8.08.12-a build 2108-c doesn't mean that it lacks value. If it isn't your perfect product ... don't buy it. New features are steps toward better features. Every idea has to start with a single product, usually one with an imperfect implementation. I applaud Samsung for doing something interesting and different and giving their customers more options.

you i8sensitive clod! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26852351)

liitle-known [goat.cx]

Stick it where the sun don't shine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26852403)

I wonder how fast it will recharge in my pocket? I really don't want to wear my cell phone on top of head...

Skin Cancer (1)

flyingfsck (986395) | more than 5 years ago | (#26852645)

Oh no, this phone will cause users to get skin cancer, since they will have to be outside all the time.

Energy saving? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26852669)

One way I can see this backfire in terms of energy use.

You get home late at night. You put your phone in your home office. Instead of plugging in the charger, you keep 240 W of lighting on overnight to charge the phone.

useful (1)

jipn4 (1367823) | more than 5 years ago | (#26852671)

I would find this useful. At home or at work, I put my phone on the desk anyway, so it can recharge easily then. I'd probably still charge it from the grid some of the time, but for travel or if it runs down, I'm not completely cut off.

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