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Student Arrested For Classroom Texting

samzenpus posted more than 5 years ago | from the the-strong-arm-of-the-education-system dept.

Education 1246

A 14-year-old Wisconsin girl was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct after she refused to stop texting during a high school math class. The girl denied having a phone when confronted by a school safety officer, but a female cop found it after frisking her. The Samsung Cricket was recovered "from the buttocks area" of the teenager, according to the police report. The girl was banned from school property for a week, and is scheduled for an April 20 court appearance for a misdemeanor disorderly conduct charge. I applaud the adults involved for their discretion and temperance in this heinous case of texting without permission.

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1246 comments

Mandated (0, Flamebait)

Hydrian (183536) | more than 5 years ago | (#26907949)

Your mandated to be in schools. Your not mandated to pay attention.

Re:Mandated (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26907981)

Who wants to make the grammar joke?

Re:Mandated (1)

guyminuslife (1349809) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908123)

Saw it, and passed. Like I passed on the lame argument against this guy. (The argument not being lame, the very fact of bothering to argue with such a silly comment being very lame indeed.)

Re:Mandated (5, Funny)

commodoresloat (172735) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908429)

Good move! Save time for the important things in life, like self-indulgent narration of things you didn't do.

Re:Mandated (2, Insightful)

Hordeking (1237940) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908415)

Your mandated to be in schools. Your not mandated to pay attention.

Who wants to make the grammar joke?

His statement speaks for itself. That's the joke here.

Aside from the humor, he does make a valid point.

Re:Mandated (0, Redundant)

joaommp (685612) | more than 5 years ago | (#26907991)

one can notice that you strongly believe in what you said from your writing. it's "you're".

Re:Mandated (2, Funny)

Myopic (18616) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908019)

I think you mean "yore". Next time pay attention in school instead of sending texts.

schools have rules for a reason (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908083)

The criminal charges sound excessive, but do you really believe that this kid has some kind of inalienable right to chat with friends in class?

Re:schools have rules for a reason (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908199)

Of course not, but she should have the right not to be arrested because of it.

Re:Mandated (3, Insightful)

alexborges (313924) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908149)

You are mandated to shut up, not text or do anything. Lest the cops come in and frisk your ass (and subsecuently finds a not-illegal item).

Poor kids.

Its good they have no rights. This way they can find out early that "rights" are not for everyone. Hell, as time passess, it seems they are for noone.

Re:Mandated (2, Funny)

The End Of Days (1243248) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908179)

noone doesn't get them either

Re:Mandated (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908321)

All your mandated are belong to us

Sounds fine to me (4, Insightful)

OrangeTide (124937) | more than 5 years ago | (#26907997)

"heinous case of texting without permission."

I think it has more to do with refusing bit than the texting bit.

Re:Sounds fine to me (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908053)

"heinous case of texting without permission."

"from the buttocks area"

Sounds more like an anus case.

Re:Sounds fine to me (1, Insightful)

kelnos (564113) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908305)

Sure, but the refusing bit can be handled just like any other case of normal school discipline. Why they felt the need to involve the police is beyond me...

What else can you do? (4, Insightful)

RockMFR (1022315) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908001)

Students shouldn't be texting in class. If a student refuses to follow the rules, you have to do something. In our lawsuit-happy culture, calling the police is pretty much the only option. If you were being insubordinate at work, you would be fired and they'd have security escort you from the building. If you refused, you would be arrested.

Re:What else can you do? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908091)

*WHERE* was that phone? IT's almost like the famous case of the iPod: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tppllc/485045319/

Re:What else can you do? (1)

alexborges (313924) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908095)

Cant you suspend the kid???

Really, calling the cops is just plain stupid.

Re:What else can you do? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908097)

No one forces you to go to work, unlike school.

Re:What else can you do? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908103)

Oh come on! I despise cellphones in a classroom as much as the next guy, but this is over the top. Confiscate the phone while on school grounds and let it be!!!

Re:What else can you do? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908255)

Confiscate the phone while on school grounds and let it be!!!

Are you suggesting that the school staff should have carried out a body search?

Re:What else can you do? (0)

DeadPixels (1391907) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908119)

I agree that students shouldn't be texting in class, but come on - filing a criminal charge against a fourteen year old for texting is ridiculous. There are proper procedures for this sort of incident, and while it may have been necessary to have police involved for a search, it definitely doesn't seem reasonable to charge her with a criminal offense. Confiscate her phone, hold it for a week until a parent picks it up, and give her a short suspension if she was really disrupting class.

Re:What else can you do? (1, Troll)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908323)

I agree. The kid should have been smacked and the phone taken away.

Honestly taking away the ability for teachers to smack spoiled snotty brats have made ridiculous crap like this happen.

They neuter the teachers ability to control and punish the kids. Some cant even defend themselves if the little turd hits them.

Re:What else can you do? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908423)

These days, I imagine a teacher confiscating something is called STEALING!!!

Re:What else can you do? (1)

jgtg32a (1173373) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908425)

I saw this article on Fark a day or so ago. And someone mentioned that they didn't take the phone because they had confiscated an iPhone and it got scratched and the student sued or something like that.

There is a good chance this previous was 110% BS, IDK.

Call their parents (5, Insightful)

pavon (30274) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908151)

First offense, confiscate the phone and give it back at the end of the day.
Second offense, give her in detention, confiscate the phone and require the parents to pick it up in person if they want it back.
Subsequent offenses, repeat step two. The parents will get sick of this pretty quickly, and she will find herself without a phone.

It's not that hard.

Re:Call their parents (1)

cyphercell (843398) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908367)

yea, but she lied, tried to hide the phone in her butt crack. It seems she got what she deserved. You have to catch a liar red-handed. You notice the lie automatically circumvents your first offense.

Re:Call their parents (0, Redundant)

drDugan (219551) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908407)

I disagree - after reading the article, the response seems reasonable *given the events* as described. Confiscation would only work if the student compiles.

Real communication is only possible while both parties are being honest. The girl, according to article was simply lying, over and over and over. Her own behavior lead to the result she got, and probably the lesson she needed.

While the headline "Arrested For Classroom Texting" is comic - after reading the article, it is more like, "out of control 14-year old girl gets treated just like the adult she thinks she is"

Re:What else can you do? (1, Informative)

msobkow (48369) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908153)

Unfortunately you're all too right -- calling the police is about the only option. Teachers aren't allowed to embarass or "harm" students, corporal punishment is banned, hell you can't even send them to the principle's office because that's "embarassing!"

Re:What else can you do? (3, Informative)

coolsnowmen (695297) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908335)

You can send a kid to the principle's office in every school I've been to and worked in. I know that's only 7 schools but you said "can't."
When I was in HS, 1st time offenders always got sent to their guidance counselors. You'ld have to be doing something unsafe/dangerous/illegal to have the cops called on you.

Re:What else can you do? (1)

jack2000 (1178961) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908341)

I'm going to disagree with you.
I don't know how things are over there but here if you get uppity with the teachers they send you to the principals office for a little Chat.
It's not the teacher's job to discipline the students. His job is to teach.

Re:What else can you do? (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908351)

What are you basing this on? My kids go to public school and every teacher has a system of rewards and punishments, which include being ejected from class. (In this school they send them to a "redirector" rather than the principal, but I think that's just because the principal can't be on hand for this sort of thing all the time).

I think rants about the loss of control in schools are often based on things that make the news, which are rare almost by definition.

Re:What else can you do? (2, Informative)

Gonoff (88518) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908357)

Or even the Principals office!

Re:What else can you do? (1)

Keen Anthony (762006) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908375)

Where do you get that teachers aren't allowed to embarrass or harm students? Do you live someplace where teachers have their hands tied? Because this isn't a universal rule. This was not the only option; it wasn't even an option. It was a stupid "zero tolerance" show of force. If the kid is found guilty, she will have a criminal record for bad behavior in school.

Re:What else can you do? (0)

Quietust (205670) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908159)

Back when I was in high school, refusing to follow the rules usually resulted in Detention (or Suspension if you did something REALLY bad), not calling the police...

Re:What else can you do? (1)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908165)

It probably wasn't necessary to call the cops. Simply sending the girl to detention and calling the parents would have handled the situation. Let the parents strip the pants off the girl & hand-over the phone to the teacher.

Re:What else can you do? (0)

gurps_npc (621217) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908175)

Wrong. Totally. A law suit is NOT a police action. You call police when a law is broken, NOT when a rule is broken. The kid was NOT being 'disorderly', that was a trumped up charge. She violated a rule, not a law, no police should have been called.

In your example at work, you had someone trespassing. This girl did NOT trespass. She did NOT break the law.

Re:What else can you do? (0, Troll)

DaveV1.0 (203135) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908379)

Were you there?
No?

Then shut the fuck up.

For all you know, the stupid, little cunt got violent

Re:What else can you do? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908221)

Shouldn't students not be allowed to put on their cell phones?

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You truly think calling the POLICE is the only opt (2, Interesting)

spoco2 (322835) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908249)

My god, what else do you think is acceptable then?

SWAT team brought in for a schoolyard fight?
Anti Terrorist squad for a stink bomb in the corridors?
Solitary detainment and waterboarding for not spilling the beans on who wrote in chalk on a school wall?

I'm disgusted that you think this is ok.

She sounds like a little shit, but that's what detention and suspension is for NOT the bloody police.

Please.

Re:What else can you do? (2, Insightful)

Kral_Blbec (1201285) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908251)

If they arent disturbing anyone, why is it a problem? It only is going to effect their own grades. Kind of like the people who yell "hush" in a theater, they are causing more of a disruption than the *problem* itself. How long exactly did the teacher spend on this?

The only exception I see is during tests or something where they could pass answers.

Re:What else can you do? (-1, Flamebait)

mxs (42717) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908291)

No, "calling the cops" is NOT "pretty much the only option".

These are teenagers and minors. They are in school. They are going to be rebellious every now and then. They have always been. It's part of growing up -- some are more annoying than others.
Remember how there is this concept of "detention" ? Yeah, it still exists. Remember how you can make them to extra work to pass ? Yeah, you can punish them with that. Remember how you can talk to the parents about it ? Yeah, those kids, by and large, DO have parents.

Confiscate the cellphone by all means, call the parents, MAYBE even have the parents come and pick her up.

Calling the police ? Yeah, that's gonna set 'er straight ! She's NEVER gonna misbehave again ! It's FORBIDDEN ! After all, she now really, really trusts her teachers, safety officers, principals, counselors, etc. to work on her behalf and with her, instead of against her. Right ? RIGHT ?

Fucking Idiots. I know teens can be annoying. If you do not know how to deal with that, don't become a teacher for them. Why you'd waste everybody's time and money by getting her in a courtroom for what is, essentially, nothing more than note-passing (remember when you did that in school ?) is ridiculous and should, quite honestly, lead to several people being harshly reprimanded and possibly fired.

Detention? Suspension? (1)

chub_mackerel (911522) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908349)

"What else can you do?" Really? This sounded like a completely routine school disciplinary matter to me. Even taking your swipe at "our lawsuit-happy culture" at face value, which do you think is riskier from a lawsuit standpoint: 1) giving a student a suspension; or 2) having her arrested?

Re:What else can you do? (2, Interesting)

BenFenner (981342) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908365)

Every time someone equates the school environment to the work environment they always seem to forget that you're required by law to attend school. Because of this all manner of factors change (legally, socially, etc.). There is almost never a valid reason to compare a school environment to a work environment. During work

If you were being insubordinate... you would be fired and they'd have security escort you from the building. If you refused, you would be arrested.

but you always had the choice to not show up that day at work if you felt a texting session was more important, or you could leave the work day early, take some leave, etc. The options are many within the law. School is not work, and shouldn't be compared to it. You must legally attend. That's a whole different ball game.

Re:What else can you do? (1)

lanevorockz (667614) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908397)

She can capture our souls with her SMSs !

Hmm (1)

Mozk (844858) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908009)

I'm not saying that this story is important, but this is usually something I would see in the normal sections of Slashdot. There would be a large discussion about the intrusion of law enforcement in an educational environment. I think the only reason that it's in Idle is because of the buttocks thing.

Re:Hmm (1)

alexborges (313924) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908117)

Buttocks, idle, slashdot in the same comment....

*Head explodes*

Re:Hmm (1)

commodore64_love (1445365) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908215)

>>>I think the only reason that it's in Idle is because of the buttocks thing.

A 14-year-old young woman, wherein gravity has not had a chance to cause the inevitable sagging. Tight and firm.

"that's hot"

Obviously texting the math quiz answers... (1)

Narcocide (102829) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908017)

... to Al-Qaeda!

Like... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908027)

Like oh mah gawd how can they do this is so unfair like people shoudlnt like be so mean to people who are like doing their own thing like what wrong with the world?

I don't have a problem (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908033)

Have the cops come get the kid. Issue a fine to their parents. Let the other kids learn.

The teacher asked the student to stop. Is there some other action a school is allowed to take with a student who refuses to follow instructions?

Re:I don't have a problem (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908157)

The teacher asked the student to stop. Is there some other action a school is allowed to take with a student who refuses to follow instructions?

I think you are supposed to give them a trophy or something.

It helps with their self esteem;-)

WTF?! (1)

Dukenukemx (1342047) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908037)

Wtf is wrong with our schools.

Re:WTF?! (5, Insightful)

myVarNamesAreTooLon (1474005) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908101)

Wtf is wrong with our children.

Fixed it for ya. Seriously, they are in school to pay attention and learn, not sit there an text people.

Re:WTF? Seconded (3, Funny)

wabbit3.0 (769128) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908317)

This is about the punishment - not the crime. What the hell is wrong with you. Do you tie your shoes in little nazies. In an age where we find Judges being paid to send kids to jail we should be questioning every single one of these incidents. What's the motive here? And how did we come to this?

Re:WTF?! (1)

Talrinys (888624) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908343)

I get the highest score in my class, albeit in Denmark but that should be comparable, this is high school and my average is very much above average - yet i spend at least 30 minutes each schoolday doing something else on the laptop that i also take notes on. This can be hugely beneficial to the class if used right, researching background material for the discussion in history classes has been a huge boost to the lessons more than a couple of times. In all honesty the school should not punish for this, kids should learn how to properly balance these things, and the teachers should take these things into account when grading students.

Photos (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908041)

Photos or GTFO

Good for the school... (1)

guyminuslife (1349809) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908049)

I personally think that everyone under the age of 65 should be banned from texting.

Also, the impression that I got of this young lady after reading the article is that she would be the type to wear very tight pants...if so, being able to stuff a cell phone in them would be quite impressive.

Insanity (0, Troll)

Abuzar (732558) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908063)

The states is going bananas. It's like every other person caught a disease to exert complete and total unwavering control over someone else. I guess the world's super-power is losing its grip and people's subconscious panic is resulting in major power trips.

Laaaawwwsuuuuit (0)

Uberbah (647458) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908071)

Cop had no basis to search the girl - you can't argue that a physically harmless cell phone is grounds for a terry stop.

Re:Laaaawwwsuuuuit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908107)

And no mention of a warrant >> Charges thrown out...

Re:Laaaawwwsuuuuit (2, Informative)

Rathum (1406047) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908311)

And no mention of a warrant >> Charges thrown out...

Why would you need a warrant? She was arrested on disorderly conduct and frisked. Unless something has changed recently, it's standard procedure to frisk the person you're arresting.

Re:Laaaawwwsuuuuit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908219)

I guess you missed where the previous US president declared the constitution null and void as long as the government official says the word "terrorism" at any point? They don't need a basis anymore.

Re:Laaaawwwsuuuuit (2, Interesting)

DnemoniX (31461) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908353)

Wrong.

No basis to search the girl? You should really read the article. She was arrested and charged with disorderly conduct. Hate to break it to you sport, but you get frisked anytime you get arrested.

Re:Laaaawwwsuuuuit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908385)

That's great except it wasn't a Terry stop. The student had already been placed under arrest for disorderly conduct, for disrupting class, refusal to follow instructions, and lying to the police.

The police report indicates this was not her first run-in with them on school grounds, which is likely why this escalated to a misdemeanor charge. A search incident to arrest is lawful, and a frisk does not constitute a full Fourth Amendment search anyway.

The other AC is also off the reservation: no warrant is necessary, either for the arrest or a search. An arrest warrant is not needed for a wide variety of offenses, including disorderly conduct, DUI, domestic violence, assault and battery, and many others either witnessed by the police or a reliable third party.

Re:Laaaawwwsuuuuit (1)

Xylaan (795464) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908393)

Except that their teacher did see her texting, and did ask her to stop, and did presumably summon the safety officer. So it's really a stretch to say that the cop just randomly 'searched' her.

Plus, I'm curious to see if there was a bit more to this story that we're not hearing. I can reasonably see the following happening:

Student refuses to hand over phone.
She's then told she will be searched.
She then starts screaming and yelling that she refuses to cooperate with the request.

That last part can be construed as disorderly conduct. You can refuse to cooperate, but doing it a loud and disruptive manner in a public place can be considered disorderly conduct (just like ANY loud and disruptive actions you take in a public place).

Re:Laaaawwwsuuuuit (1)

winkydink (650484) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908409)

IIRC, it's standard practice to frisk somebody after you arrest them. I would guess that this is when they discovered the phone crammed between her butt cheeks.

I know a great detention center in PA (5, Funny)

wabbit3.0 (769128) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908079)

I can recommend. I'll even cut y'all in on the finders fee.

Combine this with another Slashdot story... (4, Funny)

Dekortage (697532) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908093)

Hmm, this "phone in the butt" story appeared just after the bar of soap [slashdot.org] phone story... cue jokes about bending over.

Twakin' required; not Arrestin' (1)

Uchiha (811374) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908105)

What ever happened to just getting the paddle form the Vice-Principle? Isn't it legal for at least a principle to frisk someone or remove them from school premises? I thought we gave up any rights there when they decided everyone student was a terrorist with a bazooka?

Called it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908113)

What a smart ass... I'm assuming it was a smart phone...

Don't they send kids to the Vice Principal? (5, Interesting)

cryfreedomlove (929828) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908125)

When I was in High School, disruptive kids got sent to the Vice Principal for this kind of thing. Why did this get charged as a real crime? Don't schools have any discretion or judgment left to them anymore?

Re:Don't they send kids to the Vice Principal? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908253)

No, because in today's world the brat's parents would sue.

Re:Don't they send kids to the Vice Principal? (1)

Haoie (1277294) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908389)

Or better yet, the principal.

Or some special committee for behaviour?

Re:Don't they send kids to the Vice Principal? (2, Insightful)

Jeff DeMaagd (2015) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908405)

Probably not anymore. Some parents are only too happy to sue or threaten to sue the district for actually trying to educate or discipline the students.

Sounds like a T-Mobile commercial (3, Funny)

erroneus (253617) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908137)

"No more butt-dialing!"

Good (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908143)

I applaud the school for putting the lying disobedient bitch back in her place.

I saw the video of this (3, Funny)

thetoadwarrior (1268702) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908145)

Oh wait you said butt not vag.

Re:I saw the video of this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908289)

Don't worry, I have seen both videos...

A week? (1)

Steauengeglase (512315) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908183)

When I was in school, having a pager on school grounds was immediate expulsion and a call for a criminal investigation (ie. is the student selling drugs) and attempting to log out of the terminal session on the library's card catalog was at least two weeks suspension. These days students and parents think having a phone is a universal right.

How are students supposed to learn how to circumvent the system when we set the bar so low?

Re:A week? (2, Funny)

Uberbah (647458) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908211)

You out the part where you had to fight through the guard dogs just to make it to class in Soviet Russia.

Re:A week? (1)

Steauengeglase (512315) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908303)

Nah, my school had those rules. Seriously.

Re:A week? (1)

Chabo (880571) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908441)

Some kids these days need phones. When they're done with their after-school activities, they need to call their parents, and the prevalence of cell phones has made it so that pay phones basically no longer exist.

I'm 23, and I was able to get by without a cell phone until I was 20. However, in the last three years especially, a cell phone has started to become necessary.

Not that she wasn't being disruptive, but I don't think the mere act of possessing a phone should be an issue.

old (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908191)

old news, heard it on the radio this morning.

what was gained? (1)

Lord Ender (156273) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908217)

You can take away the phone, but you can't force the mind to focus on the instructor. Kids won't pay attention to boring things unless they have motivation to do so. This can come from parents or peers. It can't come from "safety officers."

texting answers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26908231)

The problem at the school district where I work is the kids are texting answers to the tests to each other.

Hmm.. (1, Interesting)

kabocox (199019) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908241)

There are days when I think that we need to get rid of our entire educational complex.

Why is it that every educator wants to stop student to student communications of any form using any media? Teachers don't teach you how to live in a free society. They teach you to live in prison.

My solution is simple. Have the students see the bill for "education" right up front and if they don't want it then they aren't required by law to be there any more.

That's what makes this bad. That student was required by law to be there. I'm sure other laws have been made to "force students to behave in class." When will students band together and force teachers to behave or have pay cuts?

Re:Hmm.. (1, Troll)

kaputtfurleben (818568) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908345)

Your 'solution' is ridiculous and leads me to believe that you are still in school yourself. Minors generally do not have the wisdom to choose the best options available to them, and that's why education is required by law. If you had any common sense that comes from being an adult, you would know this.

Re:Hmm.. (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908431)

That and the lack of any real education has diluted the value of a high school diploma to that of toilet paper.

My Tax Dollars!!???? (1, Insightful)

Digital_Mercenary (136288) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908299)

Why are my very expensive courts and police being tied up with this nonsense!!???

A Simple suspension and call home to the Parents was seen as going soft!!!???

WTF!!!???? Really WTF!!!!!?????

Re:My Tax Dollars!!???? (1)

cspaz (799390) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908427)

Mod parent up. And give me my money back!

Good job by the school (3, Insightful)

slashdotlurker (1113853) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908315)

Had this been another country, one more serious about education, and parenting, this character would have been given an immediate failing grade and forced to repeat. But this is America, and we molly coddle our kids, who generally end up laying an egg when it comes to technical topics in high school.

What the hell.... (1, Redundant)

PontifexMaximus (181529) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908319)

This is type of thing is indicative of the sense of entitlement everyone under the age of 20 seems to have these days. Everyone's the victim and no one is responsible for their actions. This girl doesn't need to be kicked off school property she needs to be stuck in a camp where there is no internet, cell phone, television, playstation, et al. for 6 months and see how the little punk likes it. She needs to be taught discipline of the highest order and maybe a criminal record and a good LONG dose of Community Service will teach little twerp respect.

Yay! (Seriously, Yay.) (1)

micromuncher (171881) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908327)

I see a bunch of "oh how could this happen" and sarcastic responses to a sarcastic article... but I'm in the "Great!" camp because I have a daughter that has a cell phone addiction. She has other issues too that make having a cell phone a very bad idea. For example, sending threatening texts to her classmates, and generally using the phone to create drama (as well as completely go off the deep end by misinterpretting texts she receives.) Can a cell in class be disruptive? Are you kidding? First, the kid with the phone is obviously distracted. Second, anyone around the kid with the phone will see/hear the thumbs going mad (not to mention giggles, outbursts, or whatnot). School is for ... learning? I'd LOVE to see more schools out-right ban this [anti] social phenomena. Seriously, there are kids that would rather text than eat (bathe, or whatever other self care you can think of.)

From the "buttocks area"!? (1)

BobSixtyFour (967533) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908331)

I hope she used protection and lube... as well as plenty of disinfectant afterwards.

Symptom of a broken education system (1)

rlp (11898) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908361)

In days of yore, the teacher would have demanded the student pay attention and probably gotten compliance. Or the teacher would have threatened to make a phone call to the parents. Falling that the teacher would have grabbed the student by the arm and marched her down to the vice principal. Today, that would result in a multi-million dollar lawsuit against the school.

In too many schools, teachers haver zero authority, and students and even parents don't care about education.

Did the teacher overreact - sure. They probably should have just ignored the texting and all the other disruptions small and large in the class. Is it any wonder that 50% of teachers quit teaching in the first few years of their "career".

This is stupid. (1, Insightful)

chrysrobyn (106763) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908371)

A 14 year old wouldn't stop texting in class? Leading to a frisking by a law enforcement officer and a court appearance? What the hell happened to "in loco parente" ("in place of parent", means while the student is at school, the school is the parent)? This parent gives you permission to destroy the fucking phone. If you're in shop class, you have quite a few more tools at your disposal to drive the point home, a physics lab, slightly less so. Unless the class was government, there's no reason to involve the men in blue. This was math class. Confiscate, eliminate the problem.

These days, teachers are responsible for students' learning. These students' performance on test scores lead not only to their continued success but to the school getting more funding. Kid thinks her phone is that much more important than learning, kid needs to learn how worthless the phone is so she can fucking pay attention. Only way to do that is to remove the phone from the equation. Shoot the hostage, so to speak.

My daughter will be 14 in 9 years. I will have given her the phone because I wanted her to have one in an emergency, not so she could text her friends in the next room. I will be very sorry for the inconvenience and disruption she will have caused. By the time she gets home, it will be hard for me to correct her behavior because we're so removed from the situation -- I will appreciate it if you could help me out. With the cost per SMS being what it is, you'll be doing me a double favor.

How do you know? (1)

Suisho (1423259) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908411)

OK- but how does finding a phone on someone's body prove that she was texting in class? I know its pretty easy to check to see if she was, however at the time they probobly couldn't even prove it! Besides, texting might be rude, but disorderly? Pressing buttons quietly at a desk isn't exactly disorderly. Breaking a school rule- yes, But this is way to far. I mean, is sneezing to loud now disorderly? Or running to the bathroom when you really have to go?
Make-up with glitter in it was classified as a "distraction in the classroom" at my middle school, and people would get detention if they wore it . However, detention is a far cry from a disorderly charge.
I'm so glad I'm grown now. Schools are becoming more like tyrant camps than an actual learning environment.

lesson learn (1)

fermion (181285) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908417)

The world is a complex and unfair place, and complying with an authority figure, especially when it is a simple request, is something we all learn to do, but some do not.

For instance, when a police pulls behind us while driving, we have two choices. Run away or stop. Kids and other with similar development will run, thinking it is fun. Most rational adults will stop and do whatever is necessary to avoid a scene. It is a choice, and the expedient choice is made with training.

I know that the expedient choice is not always the right choice, but at least in america there are ways to make the expedient choice, admit no guilt,and deal with the situation later. This of course requires maturity and practice.

And training with proper use of phones is important. The teacher obviously asked her nicely to stop and the situation only escalated when she would not. What happens when she is so addicted to the phone, which she obviously is, that she cannot sit for her SATS without using the phone? Or if she is in an interview for college? Or when she starts to drive. I am sure that many of you would be happy to have your young children on the same street as a phone addicted adolescent that has just learned to drive.

Uh. Overkill? (1)

limekiller4 (451497) | more than 5 years ago | (#26908435)

What ever happened to detention??!

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