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In-Game Web Browser Round-Up

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the not-complete-until-it-includes-one dept.

The Internet 193

theodp writes "CNET takes a look at Web browsers you can run inside of the latest video games, offering mini-reviews of PlayXpert, Steam, Rogue, and Xfire. Why run these instead of your standard browser? Well, these browsers run lean and mean, play nice with full-screen apps, provide hot keys that can make them appear or disappear in an instant, and offer transparency so you can continue to play a game in full screen while chatting, reading e-mail or looking up cheat codes. So how much longer before we see a variation of this on our real-world car windshields?"

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Thottbot (0)

dintech (998802) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915545)

This would be useful for those playing World of Warcraft who need to look up things in Thottbot. I think I'd probably use it.

Re:Thottbot (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26915649)

Use quest helper.

Eve's Browser (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26915689)

Eve has its own browser, which works just dandy. And considering how much vital information about playing the game can only be found from 3rd party sources, it's less an add-on and more an essential element of the HUD.

Re:Eve's Browser (3, Funny)

JavaBear (9872) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915833)

Eve Online's IGB is a joke.
What's worse is, the joke suck!

Re:Eve's Browser (1)

korTdev (36381) | more than 5 years ago | (#26917009)

eve online browser, while beeing very slow and buggy is still usefull because it can provides to web application a number of interesting data...

Also, some allicances make usefull use of this by adding fleet links to apps so that people that just log dont have to beg for a fleet link.

CCP should fix bugs, and optimise it.

Re:Thottbot (2, Insightful)

dtml-try MyNick (453562) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915847)

If you're just looking for something to look up info there is no need for a browser in WoW.

Install the Questhelper and lightheaded addons and you're all set.

Questhelper points you to the quest locations and lightheaded parses all comments from wowhead on quests in a ingame addon.

Re:Thottbot (3, Informative)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915945)

If you're just looking for something to look up info there is no need for a browser in WoW.

Install the Questhelper and lightheaded addons and you're all set.

Questhelper points you to the quest locations and lightheaded parses all comments from wowhead on quests in a ingame addon.

Questhelper has too large of a performance impact for me in my 3.8 GHz C2D with 4 gigs of ram. I'm glad you mention wowhead, which the GP should be using instead of thotbot. I think a good solution is cartographer and playing the game in windowed (but maximized) mode. In windowed mode, alt tabbing out is instant instead of incurring the 2 second delay of full screen. Of course, windowed mode incurs a performance penalty too, but it's less than QH and it can easily be turned off when not in need of constant reference material.

Re:Thottbot (1)

wisty (1335733) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915993)

But does Questhelper let you browse online "art" collections during the boring bits?

Re:Thottbot (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26916349)

I see an opportunity for a new plugin....

Re:Thottbot (1)

Canazza (1428553) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916197)

Problem with QuestHelper is that is causes all sorts of conflicts and problems, I've known alot of guildies who have to turn it off for raids because it interferes with things. One time someone couldn't move. Even when he logged out and back in again. He had to disable QH before then... freaky as hell tbh.
WoW isn't that pissy about ALT+Tabbing either though, quite smooth transition from one to the other even when full screened so a Browser-add-on isn't really required.
FPS games in general seem to have a harder time coping with ALT+TAB (particularly online games, Source-based ones being a prime example, Counter Strike being the biggest culprit of throwing minimised hissy fits)
the only shooter i've known to work well while alt+tabbing has been S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and it's prequel which pauses and returns to the main screen when you alt tab (useful).

Re:Thottbot (1)

no1nose (993082) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916397)

EVE-Online is also alt-tab friendly. Both WoW and EVE got that right. I wish more games took that into consideration when playing in full-screen mode. For example, Entropia Universe will time-out and disconnect if you alt-tab for more than 30 seconds. However, if you leave the game up in full-screen mode it won't disconnect you until the idle timer is reached (about 5-10 minutes later).

I'd rather not (4, Insightful)

Moraelin (679338) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916369)

Actually, I find that trying Questhelper has pretty much killed all my interest in WoW.

Now I do appreciate having Thottbot or such, for when I got lost or couldn't figure out the directions after trying for half an hour. But just following the cube makes me feel like a bot could do the same thing, and probably better. There is no need for any more complex thought above "click on that guy because Questhelper says so" or "head that way because Questhelper says so." There's nothing left to discover (technically QH discovered it already for you), nothing worth remembering (QH already tells you whether you need to go east or west, so no point in even trying to remember where the quest told you to go), you don't even need to look at the major landmarks (if it's behind that hill, QH will tell you so.)

And you can tell. I know people who play exclusively by Questhelper (heck, mom does) and frankly, they don't seem to actually use any brainpower in playing the game. Often they won't even remember what they just did or where some major landmark is, because really there was no more thought involved than obediently doing what the bot told them to. They've run along some road a dozen times, but ask them to show you where it is, and you find that they couldn't find their own arse with a map and a compass, but without QH. Or you see them forgetting they had to use some unique item, and some whole group trying to take down some elite boss the hard way instead, because none of them bothered even reading the quest text and QH doesn't tell them, "dude, use the shreder".

Now if that still keeps you entertained, good for you, and I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise. But it's just not for me. For me it makes the whole thing boring as heck, and takes away any kind of sense of achievement too.

Re:I'd rather not (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26917543)

I've played the game way too long to care about the quests that I have to grind to get to my desired level. Questhelper is nice.

An in-game browser would be sexy for things like looking up enchant/blacksmith/engineering/tailoring/jewelcrafting/inscription mats or reading up on gear, or assisting with strategies on boss fights as well as comparing pvp competitors with yourself or even playing with a new talent spec without having to actually drop your talents.

There are also tons of quests out there that have no connection to a desired quest, but have to be completed before the new quest becomes available. Super annoying.

If that's not enough reasons, I don't know what is. Give us the in game browser, with tabs. :D

Mac and Linux advantage (0, Troll)

Foofoobar (318279) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916751)

I play Warcraft and use my browser with it all the time. Just open it in Windowed mode. What? you don't have that? Must just be Mac and Linux that have that then.

Re:Mac and Linux advantage (1)

MaximumFrost (1156629) | more than 5 years ago | (#26917441)

There's no advantage here. WoW runs in windowed mode just fine in windows. Hell, that's the only way myself and a large part of my guild plays nowadays, just because it's easier to access other things during downtime between wipes.

The killer app (4, Funny)

Nerdposeur (910128) | more than 5 years ago | (#26917633)

Actually, I think the best thing to do with these in-game browsers is to play in-browser games.

Hopefully, those games will include browsers, too, so we don't get bored.

self-steering (1)

polar red (215081) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915547)

So how much longer before we see a variation of this on our real-world car windshields?

I would rather have a car that steers itself

Re:self-steering (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26916119)

One of those wishes is closer to reality than the other. I'll give you three guesses which.

So.. the Video Game is the Computer? (1)

pieterh (196118) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915553)

Kind of makes sense. A friend of mine was complaining that her son spent all his free time gaming, and I told her: "he's learning the user interface of the 21st century".

So how long until video games start to offer virtual Linux consoles so I can compile and start an in-game web server to serve those in-game browsers?

Re:So.. the Video Game is the Computer? (2, Interesting)

setagllib (753300) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915675)

Now that AIGLX lets you run any window as an OpenGL mesh and texture, it's not a stretch to map that into a surface in your game. But it would require some cooperation from the game itself, since it has to take a reasonable place in the OpenGL command pipeline unless you just want it hovering over everything.

Re:So.. the Video Game is the Computer? (1)

Canazza (1428553) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916209)

oooh... another way to inject pop-ups into peoples lives :D

Re:So.. the Video Game is the Computer? (3, Funny)

Richy_T (111409) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916001)

Yep. With the way the economy is going, the user interface will be a rifle or shotgun.

Tired of hitting Alt-F4? (5, Funny)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915597)

These new in-game browsers are great! I used to be annoyed that I'd have to hit Alt AND F4 to switch away from my game to check my stock prices, but now with these new in-game browsers I can simply hit Shift+F4 and browse at my leisure.

This is a huge step forward in usability. I can't wait until Emacs includes a browser that can be toggled with an intuitive set of keystrokes.

Re:Tired of hitting Alt-F4? (2, Funny)

AdmiralXyz (1378985) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915973)

What, didn't you know? C-c M-o M-browser and you're all set. You'll need a 64-bit quad-core machine to handle it though.

Re:Tired of hitting Alt-F4? (1)

icebraining (1313345) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916111)

My computer takes two whole minutes to minimize and two more to maximize, so I really like xfire browser. It even has tabs, much sooner than IE :P

Re:Tired of hitting Alt-F4? (1)

shadowarmy75 (1411273) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916975)

Plus my framerate usually takes a hit if I minimize and go back.

I love my in browser browser (1)

TravisO (979545) | more than 5 years ago | (#26917373)

I love this new in-browser browser, now I can open a new window without having to be annoyed with that silly CTRL+T key combo, who can remember that anyway?

Hey, does anybody want to hire me to invent the wheel?

Re:Tired of hitting Alt-F4? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26917531)

It already does--w3m mode.

Oh good. Something else to do while driving (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26915611)

So how much longer before we see a variation of this on our real-world car windshields?

Hopefully never. People already have enough things to distract them while driving. Do they really need another one?

Re:Oh good. Something else to do while driving (1)

ByOhTek (1181381) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915697)

What, you don't think people will drive better if they can watch the latest porn from their favorite site on the way into work?

Re:Oh good. Something else to do while driving (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915751)

You think that's a gear stick what the guy in front of you is fingering every now and then?

Re:Oh good. Something else to do while driving (3, Informative)

jetsci (1470207) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915707)

Its actually quite scary. I was on the bus this morning on my way to work when I look out the window at a women driving. She is completely beyond reality and roughly 2 car lengths from the nearest car, fumbling for gloves that she clearly needs right that moment, then lipstick.
I was genuinely boggled when she pulled out a nail file and started working on her nails. All the while, oblivious to the cars around her.

Re:Oh good. Something else to do while driving (2, Funny)

Hatta (162192) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916605)

Sup dawg, I heard you like to browse, so I put a browser in your car so you can browse while you drive.

Did I do that right?

Steam? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26915621)

I don't recall an experience with Steam's web-browser ever being "lean and mean."

Re:Steam? (1)

Chabil Ha' (875116) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915859)

Just think of it this way: it is a locked down version of Internet Explorer.

Re:Steam? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26916281)

Not really "locked down"; the security holes are still there. Oh, and Steam server admins can cause webpages to open on your PC...

Re:Steam? (1)

HexOxide (1375611) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916655)

This isn't entirely accurate. Base installations of source game servers don't easily allow for this, even if you have RCON. However if they've installed a third party server administration addon, such as Mani Admin for Counter-Strike Source, etc, where there is a command called ma_browse, which allows users to bring up websites in the MOTD window, admins with sufficient access can use the ma_cexec command to force players to bring up websites using the ma_browse command, but the majority of servers (I.E. the well run ones) do not give out this kind of functionality to most of their admins.

Really, it's not a huge deal, and you barely ever see it happen, and I mean, what's to stop someone changing their server's MOTD to a simple HTML page with a bunch of gay porn pictures or something else most people find unpleasant to have forced upon them? Power has the potential to corrupt, the way I see it, it's not very different than if the admin were to slay people or set his health or give himself guns, or anything else.

Re:Steam? (1)

Canazza (1428553) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916987)

There is one server i've played on that has special commands. IE typing "Boobies" brings up ratemytits.com (or something)
But this is a very locked down version of IE that doesn't actually run any JS (so you can't actually RATE their tits)

other commands they use include 'cameltoe' and 'sheepy'

On windshields? (4, Insightful)

haeger (85819) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915625)

So how much longer before we see a variation of this on our real-world car windshields?

I hope that we never see this. Not as long as there's a human steering the car. Do we really need yet ANOTHER distraction from driving? People are texting, putting on makeup, calling, eating, drinking, reading and doing too many other things than driving. Imho if a police should see you doing this they should sell your car and take your license since you're too stupid to figure out that 3000kg at 100km/h is a force to be respected.

Re:On windshields? (3, Informative)

www.drk.com.ar (1481793) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915659)

You are right. It sounds like a joke when, in the country where I live at least, there is a law against driving and using a cell phone at the same time.

Re:On windshields? (3, Insightful)

travdaddy (527149) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915745)

So how much longer before we see a variation of this on our real-world car windshields?

I hope that we never see this. Not as long as there's a human steering the car. Do we really need yet ANOTHER distraction from driving? People are texting, putting on makeup, calling, eating, drinking, reading and doing too many other things than driving. Imho if a police should see you doing this they should sell your car and take your license since you're too stupid to figure out that 3000kg at 100km/h is a force to be respected.


The funny thing is that people are far more likely to "pull over and chat" in an FPS (where they can respawn) than in a real car (where they can't).

Re:On windshields? (3, Interesting)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916933)

So how much longer before we see a variation of this on our real-world car windshields?
3000kg at 100km/h is a force to be respected.

3000kg * 28 m/s isn't a force, it's a momentum. ;)

Now, when you hit something that makes you stop in .5 seconds...

3000kg * -56 m/s^2 = -168000 N Now THAT'S a force to be respected. *G*

Re:On windshields? (1)

mfh (56) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915749)

Do we really need yet ANOTHER distraction from driving?

No.

Also, if we involve windows with cars, predictable results will ensue [edeardiary.com] .

Re:On windshields? (-1)

arekusu_ou (1344373) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915759)

When I was in college, I used to eat subs, eye drops in my eye, splash cold water on my face (long drives), take off a jacket, even pull off a pullover while driving. Once, I even had a plate of spaghetti on my lap.

It may be arrogance, or ignorance, but it's a matter of judgement on whether or not the area was safe and if you had the ability to do it.

Now, I just zone out and listen to music while driving because the car drives itself. Perhaps its the fault of power steering, making it so mindless you barely have to control the steering wheel. You only have to watch out around you, keep an eye on other objects like guide lines and cars, and taking note of erratic behavior that could mean they're going to collide with you.

This like speed limit, isn't setting a limit on what a person/car should be capable of. It's setting a LOW bar because people who can't handle it, don't know it or delusion in believing that they can handle it. I've seen stretches of highway where it's 55 MPH. Given lack of patrols, people could go 70-80. At night at times, seen people going 100 mph in that area. The 55 wasn't because the area couldn't handle faster speeds. It was a low bar set. Just like saying people in general get dangerously distracted by hands free cell and listening to the radio or talking to the person next to them (from old Slashdot articles by researchers).

Re:On windshields? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26915911)

It may be arrogance, or ignorance, but it's a matter of judgement on whether or not the area was safe and if you had the ability to do it.

You're fine doing all those things, until one day you discover something you're not fine with, or some jackass pulls out in front of you and your reaction time is slower because you're distracted. Then it's all fun and games.

Still, I guess some people never make it beyond toddlers. You've just gotta touch that hotplate before you figure out it's dangerous.

Re:On windshields? (5, Insightful)

SirGarlon (845873) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915979)

When I was in college, I used to eat subs, eye drops in my eye, splash cold water on my face (long drives), take off a jacket, even pull off a pullover while driving. Once, I even had a plate of spaghetti on my lap.

So what do you think would happen if a ball rolled out into the street in front of your car, followed by a laughing child?

You were a complete asshole when you drove like that. I hope you've wised up, but it sounds like you still think your masterful driving expertise allows you to control things outside your card.

Re:On windshields? (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916567)

So what do you think would happen if a ball rolled out into the street in front of your car, followed by a laughing child?

I'd be wondering why a child was playing on the freeway in the middle of nowhere.

Re:On windshields? (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 5 years ago | (#26917281)

Freeways aren't always in the middle of nowhere. A freeway might have things near it like a MacDonalds with a playcenter, parks, etc. Also it doesn't have to be a child. There are wildlife you have to consider. Hitting a deer might be bad. Hitting a moose may be fatal.

Re:On windshields? (1)

srollyson (1184197) | more than 5 years ago | (#26917351)

I'd be wondering why a child was playing on the freeway in the middle of nowhere.

How about: "what do you think would happen if a ball rolled out into the street in front of your car, followed by a laughing deer?" ;)

Re:On windshields? (1)

L4t3r4lu5 (1216702) | more than 5 years ago | (#26917507)

What abone the blonde bimbo, doing the same thing as you with the eye drops, who slams her brakes on after spotting a squirrel. You don't notice her brake lights as you've eating a plate of spaghetti on your lap. You might have dropped the fork into the footwell.

Actually, perhaps we should pray that this kind of thing happens more often. The blonde in the SUV takes minor scratches, maybe some glass in her face in some kind of poetic justice for her outrageous vanity. You, on the other hand, can be left in the state of spacial awareness you were in when searching for your eating tool around your feet.

FYI, I beep my horn CONSTANTLY when I see people using their phone when driving. I pray that they crash, obviously without any other people getting hurt. It'd be one less idiot, like yourself, on the road.

Re:On windshields? (1)

discord5 (798235) | more than 5 years ago | (#26917303)

So what do you think would happen if a ball rolled out into the street in front of your car, followed by a laughing child?

Spladder bonus

To be honest, when I started to read that sentence I was thinking about meatballs with the spaghetti

I'm sorry, I'm taking my tasteless jokes somewhere else now

Re:On windshields? (1)

houghi (78078) | more than 5 years ago | (#26917313)

It is Darwinism in process. in just a few generations, we will have kids who are able to be fast enough to jump away from the car just in time. (It's a joke, laugh.)

Re:On windshields? (1)

snspdaarf (1314399) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916485)

The speed limit is set low in this country because we believe it is more important that a driver can parallel park that is that a driver know and obey the rules of the road. It's a trade off. I don't think people in the US would tolerate the German system of driver licensing and highway enforcement even if speed limits were done the same. They get to drive fast, we get to eat entire meals in the car, and drive in the rain without the headlights being on.

On the other hand, I have been passed on the way to DFW by a driver reading the newspaper. The bumper sticker on his car read, "My other car is a 727." Now, that was frightening. I think it is better than people like that not get to drive at trans-warp speeds (and probably should not get to fly a plane, either).

Re:On windshields? (1)

foo fighter (151863) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916993)

You, sir, are a cunt.

I may have been trolled, but I've seen enough of this kind of shitty driving in real life--including the horrible consequences such as dead children who won't be having an open casket funeral--and enough 100% insane jerks trying to justify their terrible driving that I doubt it.

Re:On windshields? (1)

masshuu (1260516) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915901)

you're too stupid to figure out that 3000kg at 100km/h is a force to be respected.

its in metric which means that every american can't understand it.

perhaps posting in Imperial units will work

Re:On windshields? (1)

IdiotBoy (5883) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915991)

police should see you doing this they should sell your car and take your license since you're too stupid to figure out that 3000kg at 100km/h is a force to be respected.

What are we to do the people who are "too stupid" to figure out that human liberty and property rights are a force to be respected?

Re:On windshields? (1)

MrNaz (730548) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916205)

My right to not being run over trumps your right to drive a vehicle you're incapable of controlling.

Re:On windshields? (1)

DrgnDancer (137700) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916517)

So wait... Are you saying that it should be OK for you to drive however you want because it's your car? That the government fascists are imposing on you for dictating that you actually pay attention when in control of 2000 pounds of aluminum, steel, and plastic moving 60-70 miles per hour? I do believe that this might be the worst personal freedom argument I've seen.

Re:On windshields? (1)

IdiotBoy (5883) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916775)

Are you saying that it should be OK for you to drive however you want because it's your car?

Yep. If you haven't harmed anyone, where is the crime?

Re:On windshields? (1)

Al Dimond (792444) | more than 5 years ago | (#26917191)

So because it's your car you could, say, drive on my lawn? On the sidewalks? Hint: it may be your car, but they aren't your roads. You might call them "your" roads, because your tax/toll money went toward them, but they're not your private property like your car is. They're a common good. So it's perfectly legitimate for the public to appoint a government that limits behavior on them. There's a more abstract common good, however, than just the physical road surface: it's the ability for people to get where they want quickly and safely. When you drive you make use of that good, just like I do (even though I usually do it on a bike or on foot), and similarly to what I do when I ride the trains and buses in my city. When people drive distracted, go much faster or slower than the average speed of traffic, cut too close when making maneuvers, and engage in many other behaviors that we usually deem illegal, they raise the rate of accidents on the road, increase their severity were they to occur, worsen surrounding traffic conditions, or some combination of these. And that is harm, whether simplistic libertarians can figure it out or not.

Which is not to say that all traffic laws (or laws in general) are good. Some of them might be unfair to certain groups of people, some of them might suck for everyone. All laws should be subject to discussion and scrutiny. But this idea that government has no right to restrict how you drive your car because it's your car is completely bogus.

Re:On windshields? (1)

houghi (78078) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916159)

If people do not go out of the way, they clearly did not respect it enough.

Re:On windshields? (1)

kabocox (199019) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916195)

So how much longer before we see a variation of this on our real-world car windshields?

I hope that we never see this. Not as long as there's a human steering the car. Do we really need yet ANOTHER distraction from driving? People are texting, putting on makeup, calling, eating, drinking, reading and doing too many other things than driving. Imho if a police should see you doing this they should sell your car and take your license since you're too stupid to figure out that 3000kg at 100km/h is a force to be respected.

Why not? As you've stated we wouldn't see any real difference. Those that would have wreaks by being distracted will find a way to have them. Do you want to prevent any new ideas just because some one might miss use it?

I'd be happy with the windshield being used to display all that dash board car info, GPS nav crap, radio station stuff, or see better random ads while driving. Heck, if they could just have the windshield heat up enough so that it wouldn't be foggy in the morning or have morning frost stay on it for more than a minute, then I'd be happy. Cell phones have web browsers. I don't see why car windshields couldn't make use of them.

Re:On windshields? (1)

-Tango21- (703195) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916251)

Because real life is a single elimination scenario where you can't respawn.

Re:On windshields? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26917519)

That's 6613.9 lbs at 62.1371 mph for the non-metric types.

Re:On windshields? (1)

xorsyst (1279232) | more than 5 years ago | (#26917625)

3000kg? What are you driving - a tank?

Real gamers (1)

arekusu_ou (1344373) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915655)

have multiple monitors and multiple computers (though the latter is not always necessary). Having a browser come up and block whatever I'm doing is still annoying.

Although in game excel or access would be nice for the OCD that keep a tracking of everything they're doing in game, long as I can save that file and open outside of the game.

I remember in the old days when gaming meant keeping a journal (Ultima 3D) and drawing a map (Wolfenstein) as you went along. Now websites generally have most of the data, but sometimes, you need your own.

Hmmm How about WOWos? (1)

Phybertekie (975815) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915679)

Wowoffice, WOWtext,WOWSheet - I think u get the idea. A laptop that boots up into a Linux based gaming OS which can be used as a daily productivity suite.

Re:Hmmm How about WOWos? (1)

Missing_dc (1074809) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915877)

Sign me up, I'd use it, I'd even reactivate my WoW account.

In game car (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26915683)

Or how about an in-game car? If you like, hook it up to control your real car, and play Google Drive to Work. It uses Google Maps, and whatever cameras you have available. You can drive to work from your back seat using only your iPhone!

Re:In game car (1)

Daravon (848487) | more than 5 years ago | (#26917447)

A car in my car, so that I can drive while I drive?

Needs Adblock (3, Interesting)

ticklemeozmo (595926) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915729)

As with most geeks, no browser will get our full attention until it gets adblock.

I don't like it. (4, Insightful)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915735)

All it does is encourage people to multi-task more. And that is not a good thing. Our brain isn't good at multi-tasking (in terms of focusing on different things), we end up doing each job half-assed. And have a big switch when we go from one to the other. It is like a drug though because we use so much extra brain power multi-tasking we feel like we are being more productive however you are better off doing job 1 then job 2 in order. With this happening more we are training our kids not to sit down and solve a problem but jump back and forth until until we fail at all of them.

Re:I don't like it. (1)

zbharucha (1331473) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915849)

This is how evolution works, mate. Multi-tasking humans with multiple brain cores is the next step!

Re:I don't like it. (1)

JustOK (667959) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916105)

so ADD and asperger's are just the next step on the evolutionary ladder that will ...ooooh a dog with a puffy tail!!!!

Re:I don't like it. (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916189)

Or a great way to kill off the people. As the guy who can focus will rule the world while the rest die off from not being able to make a living.

Re:I don't like it. (2, Interesting)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916177)

All it does is encourage people to multi-task more. And that is not a good thing. Our brain isn't good at multi-tasking (in terms of focusing on different things), we end up doing each job half-assed.

The more you multi-task, the better you get at it - at minimum, you get better at combining the tasks that you regularly combine.

With this happening more we are training our kids not to sit down and solve a problem but jump back and forth until until we fail at all of them.

Growing up with a slow modem and a multitasking computer (1200 bps BSR modem, Amiga 500) I definitely learned to multitask. I find that I am better at it than my parents. Perhaps it's a good thing. Besides, there will always be those among us who enter a nerdly fugue state and tune out the rest of existence. And isn't Autism on the rise? Perhaps humanity is segmenting :)

Re:I don't like it. (1)

SirGarlon (845873) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916211)

All it does is encourage people to multi-task more. And that is not a good thing.

It's a good thing if the people multi-tasking are my opponents. ;-)

Re:I don't like it. (4, Funny)

twosmokes (704364) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916483)

Speak for yourself. I'm excellent at multi

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tasking. You obviously haven't had enough experience with it. Keep practicing and you'll be able to do 3-4 things at the same time without any major problems.

Steam? (2, Interesting)

Crossmire (1393021) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915741)

Steam seems to still use Internet Explorer for some things. I removed IE with nLite and can easily see where Steam tries to use it. TF2 also has major problems and it forces the game to minimise and presents a dialogue asking me if I want to download an html file, it then takes 20 seconds to get back into the game. I wish there was some way to stop TF2 from making any attempts to use a browser, but I haven't found one yet.

Anyone gave security a thought? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915783)

Malware authors already found games as a new attack vector. Do we really have to give them an interface they're already very familiar with?

Re:Anyone gave security a thought? (1)

DigitalSorceress (156609) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916479)

THIS

A thousand times THIS!

Totally with you. The world wide web is a terribly hostile place at this point. We've got so many tpyo squattres (that was deliberate), and legit but hacked web sites delivering malware/spyware, and so many idiots who really think some Nigerian interior minister is seeking their help that I predict EPIC FAILURE.

That is all.

I seldom alt-tab (3, Interesting)

sw155kn1f3 (600118) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915875)

Usually I have all my chat windows etc open on second monitor where I can see them. Second old 17" LCD does the trick.

Roadkill takes on a whole new meaning... (2, Insightful)

geekmux (1040042) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915889)

"...So how much longer before we see a variation of this on our real-world car windshields?"

Are you serious? We can't even keep people from crashing at 80MPH and killing innocent people because they're too busy texting on a 2x2" screen on a fucking cell phone, and you want to slap a full-blown YouTube/Facebook/Myspace portal on the windshield?

I'll tell you how much longer. When we have a foolproof autopilot system for our cars.

Re:Roadkill takes on a whole new meaning... (2, Insightful)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916213)

I'll tell you how much longer. When we have a foolproof autopilot system for our cars.

There's no such thing, but rail is pretty good.

We went the wrong way in this country when we let the auto companies dismantle the rail system (to the minimum level that would allow for their purposes.)

Another way (1)

SCHecklerX (229973) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915905)

too bad linux games kinda aren't there, but I used to do this with quake4..

Just run the game in its own X11 session. Then switch between them using and .

DeathRace 2012 (4, Funny)

Missing_dc (1074809) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915933)

"So how much longer before we see a variation of this on our real-world car windshields?"

just as soon as I mount those rockets, .50cal, smoke screen, oil slick, caltrop seeder, and armor on my truck.

Oh, and I need to mod the controls to let me handle steering and acceleration/defense devices with a joystick and the aiming/offense with a mouse.

IRC? (1)

jamesmcm (1354379) | more than 5 years ago | (#26915949)

It'd be cool if more games added IRC clients like Uplink had. Just imagine having an IRC overlay on Fallout 3, where you can chat from the Pip-boy. It can damage immersion I suppose.

Re:IRC? (3, Funny)

PrescriptionWarning (932687) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916005)

A/S/L?

Re:IRC? (1)

Inda (580031) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916519)

8, female, at school - why do you ask?

Do people still do ASLs?

From TFS (1)

silent_artichoke (973182) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916051)

So how much longer before we see a variation of this on our real-world car windshields?

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!! I will shoot the idiot that does this. It's already dangerous enough with people eating, putting on makeup, reading, sending text messages, watching movies, and rolling joints without adding web browsing. YOUR CAR IS FOR DRIVING ONLY!!! It's not an entertainment center and it's not your living room.

Re:From TFS (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916299)

I take the time on my boring drive to work to cut my toenails.

PlayXpert.... (1)

Kral_Blbec (1201285) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916057)

It looks pretty nice, especially the part about have multi-protocol IM support. Unfortunatly the reviewer forgot to add in that it isnt compatible with vista or 64 bit yet. Hopefully soon.

"PLAYXPERT is built to work with XP and Vista for both 32 and 64 bit systems - however - the 'In-Game Overlay' system is not currently operational for Vista or 64bit systems. The Vista overlay system will be made available via the auto-updater in January 2009 and 64bit support will shortly follow. "

I can imagine how this technology originated (3, Funny)

Loosifur (954968) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916417)

Level pally...watch porn...level pally...watch porn...

hmmm...

EUREKA!

Re:I can imagine how this technology originated (1)

StoatBringer (552938) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916745)

Just combine the two by rolling a female blood-elf paladin. Problem solved!

Just another reason.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26916463)

Yes, lets just invest wildly in putting web browsers on windshields with no idea how safe it isn't!

Somehow I doubt it. I get the impression that the car companies might just simulate this kind of thing before they put R&D money into building anything. Call me stupid, but that's what I think.

Of course, it's usually cheaper to recycle software, so they'd probably try it with an existing setup, say with any of the browsers from this article in conjunction with a good driving simulator... of which there is only one. Perhaps we'll FINALLY get Gran Turismo on the PC. If you won't port it for the players, Polyphony Digital, will you port it for detroit? Please? For the players?

/me runs out sobbing

Two computers (1)

xorsyst (1279232) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916491)

What's wrong with having a second computer and either a second monitor or a KVM switch? Or a laptop? It really doesn't need to be anything fancy just to show a few web pages. You can basically get an entire suitable computer and (crt) monitor from freecycle these days.

What? (2, Informative)

The MAZZTer (911996) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916863)

Steam (and probably the others too) just uses the drop-in ActiveX Internet Explorer component. It's not mean and it's definitely not lean.

If they used Gecko or Webkit it would be a different matter.

Re:What? (1)

The MAZZTer (911996) | more than 5 years ago | (#26916927)

Oh yeah it looks like they tested it using a site with Flash and then complained when the website performance was horrible. Even the Chrome team said they can't do anything about poor Flash performance (relatively speaking to the rest of Chrome).

But what would we call it...? (1)

Chelloveck (14643) | more than 5 years ago | (#26917255)

And maybe someday we will have games that run in resizable areas that take less than the full screen, so that one can run any arbitrary application (or even applications!) in the remaining space. Wow! Wouldn't that be something!

Do you have a death wish? (1)

monkeySauce (562927) | more than 5 years ago | (#26917399)

So how much longer before we see a variation of this on our real-world car windshields?"

Hopefully not before we get the option in our car to hit ESC and choose LOAD > This_Morning.sav after being in a fatal car accident.

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