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Atlantis Seekers Given Thrill by Google Ocean

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 4 years ago | from the jump-to-conclusions-mat dept.

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RcK writes "Numerous articles are springing up regarding a feature found using the new Google Ocean, which some claim could be the location of Atlantis. While this is obviously early, and probably has the same credibility levels as previous claims of finding the mythical city, the detected anomaly is quite convincingly linear, is apparently the size of Wales and sits near where Plato hypothesized the city to be located." Google has stated that this is an issue with the way their ocean mapping software is working, but clearly that is a cover up while Google execs try to buy the real estate. I just hope they bring back Elvis next.

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The SUN is always an entertaining read ... (5, Interesting)

xmas2003 (739875) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934467)

It's fun to read article in The Sun (ditto the National Enquirer). While there may be some validity in the findings (especially if you wear a tin foil hat), if you RTFM, it's a hilarious read complete with pictures of Patrick Duffy from the 1970's TV show "Man from Atlantis" along with an artists impression of the "lost metropolis" under water.

Speaking of nifty water shots, here's some cool pictures and time-lapse webcam images of the Antarctica Cruise Ship Ocean Nova [komar.org] which recently ran aground. Good news is everyone is safe, but they had to evacuate the passengers to another ship; guess they got quite an adventure! ;-)

Re:The SUN is always an entertaining read ... (1)

Hordeking (1237940) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934475)

This sounds like a job for INDIANA JONES (and Sophia)!

Re:The SUN is always an entertaining read ... (1)

troll8901 (1397145) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934743)

Hi, I'm selling this fine leather jacket...

Re:The SUN is always an entertaining read ... (4, Funny)

davester666 (731373) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934755)

Finally, I'm no longer limited to just searching the continents for Waldo. Now, I can also search the oceans.

I swear I'll find him, and when I do, he better look out!

Re:The SUN is always an entertaining read ... (1)

just_another_sean (919159) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935029)

Finally, I'm no longer limited to just searching the continents for Waldo. Now, I can also search the oceans.

I swear I'll find him, and when I do, he better look out!

Just like with the proverbial dog and car I think you need to ask yourself; "what will I do when I catch him"? You owe it to yourself to be honest when you answer.

Re:The SUN is always an entertaining read ... (4, Funny)

davester666 (731373) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935413)

Oh, I've got a plan.

In fact, I've got the one-size-fits-all latex suit, love swing (NSFW)http://www.stockroom.com/The-Love-Swing-P1361.aspx [stockroom.com] , handcuffs and broom handle ready for when I catch him!

Re:The SUN is always an entertaining read ... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26934767)

Plus there was the link to this [thesun.co.uk] on the article page. Talk about wetness!

Re:The SUN is always an entertaining read ... (1)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935253)

The Patrick Duffy show thing was like, wtf, why did you even mention that?

The Sun? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26934487)

Numerous articles and you pick the sun?

Anyway here it is on google map

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=31.480209,-24.120483&spn=2.988616,5.026245&t=h&z=8 [google.com]

Re:The Sun? (3, Funny)

Hordeking (1237940) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934547)

Numerous articles and you pick the sun?

Anyway here it is on google map

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=31.480209,-24.120483&spn=2.988616,5.026245&t=h&z=8 [google.com]

Don't knock the Sun. It's at least as good as the Weekly World News!

Re:The Sun? (3, Insightful)

demonlapin (527802) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934969)

Better, even. Ever seen boobs on page 3 of Weekly World News?

Re:The Sun? (3, Funny)

Hordeking (1237940) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935397)

Better, even. Ever seen boobs on page 3 of Weekly World News?

No. I was too busy looking at boobs in the line at the store.

Re:The Sun? (2, Funny)

ncc74656 (45571) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934751)

Numerous articles and you pick the sun?

Could've been worse...he could've used the New York Times instead. :-P

Re:The Sun? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26934829)

Where's the street view guy? That's what we really need.

Re:The Sun? (5, Informative)

peacefinder (469349) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935211)

Most amusing how the Sun declined to show the scale of the map. For comparison, here's another city [google.com] at the same scale.

The similarity is not uncanny. :-)

Re:The Sun? (3, Funny)

camperdave (969942) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935423)

Wow! Atlantis was flippin' HUGE!

Re:The Sun? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26935229)

What? No Street view!?

Re:The Sun? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26935353)

Numerous articles and you pick the sun?

Anyway here it is on google map

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=31.480209,-24.120483&spn=2.988616,5.026245&t=h&z=8 [google.com]

And here's the link for the much larger city that wiped out Atlantis.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=52.789476,-16.094971&spn=5.156964,10.217285&z=7 [google.com]

Things that make you think (1)

Hordeking (1237940) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934525)

While it would be neat to find Atlantis (recollect how Troy was mythical until the late 1800's?), I suspect this will turn out to be just an example of natural ditches that line up nicely.

Or maybe it is Atlantis, and it turns out to be run by the same people who are responsible for that face at Cydonia [wikipedia.org] on Mars!

Re:Things that make you think (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26934635)

Besides, isn't Atlantis supposed to have been a Ring City around a central harbour and volcano? Why would it have what looks like a modern city grid layout?

Re:Things that make you think (3, Informative)

Smidge207 (1278042) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934729)

isn't Atlantis supposed to have been a Ring City around a central harbour and volcano?

No, that was Santorini (Thera) [wikipedia.org] .

=Smidge=

Re:Things that make you think (1)

Hordeking (1237940) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934733)

Besides, isn't Atlantis supposed to have been a Ring City around a central harbour and volcano? Why would it have what looks like a modern city grid layout?

I'm not an expert (or lawyer, but I play one on TV), but an ancient city the size of Wales is probably pretty hard to sink.

Plato was writing based on third-hand descriptions, so we can't really verify the veracity of his statements.

The Minoan Hypothesis (5, Interesting)

spun (1352) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934757)

I used to live on Crete, Greece, and was amazed at the sophistication of ancient Minoan culture. By 2,000 BC, the Minoans had huge, multi-level palaces with running water and sewers. The Minoan civilization was wiped out when Santorini erupted. To the proto-Greeks of 2,000 BC, Minoan technology must have seemed almost magical.

I've read a theory that Plato's description of Atlantis is based on memories of the Minoans. The description fits, except for the location (Crete is in the Mediterranean, while Plato thought Atlantis was in the Atlantic.) Plato knew of Crete and the Minoans, though, but perhaps the stories were unclear or ambiguous.

Wish I had mod points for you (1)

djconrad (1413667) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934929)

I wish I had mod points for you. Considering the subsequent Mycenaean collapse, it's amazing any memory of the Minoans made it to Plato.

Theseus and the Minotaur (4, Informative)

spun (1352) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935023)

Some memories were preserved in the myth of Theseus and the Minotaur. To the primitive Greeks of the time, the palace of Knossos must have seemed like a maze. The Minoans also demanded tariffs on all shipping in the Mediterranean, and as we know, the ancient Greeks loved to dramatize trade disputes, thus the legend of having to send virgins to slake the hunger of the Minotaur.

Re:The Minoan Hypothesis (3, Informative)

gnick (1211984) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935021)

The description fits, except for the location (Crete is in the Mediterranean, while Plato thought Atlantis was in the Atlantic.)

According to TFA he said that it was in the "Real Sea". Apparently that's typically interpreted as being the Atlantic, but sometimes is assumed to be the Mediterranean.

Of course, since I'm collecting this knowledge from a first-hand account from Plato reacting to a finding on Google Maps - My information may be a little faulty, but the almighty wikipedia [wikipedia.org] seems to back it up [wikipedia.org] .

Re:The Minoan Hypothesis (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26935453)

Minoan culture was NOT destroyed by the eruption of Santorini. The Minoan-like Cycladic civilization (which was also influenced by Mycenaean culture) which lives on the islands between mainland Greece and Crete almost completely disappeared, but Minoan "Palace" culture continued to thrive for hundreds of years afterwards.The Minoans of 2000 BC were at the beginning of a very lengthy gradual process of centralization and growth that would eventually result in the massive palace structures.

This is another perfect example of how a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Re:Things that make you think (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26934891)

It is an interesting anomaly that deserves a closer look. It doesn't matter if it's a glitch in the imagining software, a natural undersea formation, or a submerged man-made structure, it still deserves to be analyzed.

As to all the rumors and stories about Atlantis, they are a bunch of B.S. .
The ONLY record we have about Atlantis is the one Plato made, and that was said to be a retelling of something from an obelisk that still hasn't been found.
Additionally, all that advanced civilization nonsense, well, they were advanced - by the reckoning of a bronze age (or earlier) society...

Re:Things that make you think (1)

Mr. Firewall (578517) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935027)

Or maybe it is Atlantis, and it turns out to be run by the same people who are responsible for that face at Cydonia on Mars!

Nah. The place is run by Cthulhu [dagonbytes.com] .

The article explains it (4, Informative)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934561)

Basically, they found some lines on the ocean floor, and the lines are kind of square and straight. What happened was the lines are where boats made measurements using sonar, and the blank spots between the lines are areas the boat didn't go. So what we are seeing is manmade indeed, but not as some had hoped.....

Re:The article explains it (2, Insightful)

nizo (81281) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934671)

On a related note:

But the internet giant said âoeblank spotsâ within the lines could not be explained.

Unless of course after a few criss-crosses whoever was piloting the boat said, "yeah, maybe we shouldn't waste our time mapping out what appears to be a really big flat part of the ocean floor"

Re:The article explains it (1)

nizo (81281) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934699)

Oh, and three cheers for Microsoft "smart quotes" that I pasted from the original article....

Re:The article explains it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26934799)

That, and /.'s utter lack of decent Unicode support.

Re:The article explains it (3, Interesting)

Thelasko (1196535) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934715)

What happened was the lines are where boats made measurements using sonar, and the blank spots between the lines are areas the boat didn't go.

It actually looks like results from side-scan sonar. [wikipedia.org] In which case the lines are a result of where the boat did go, as this type of sonar does not look directly beneath the boat.

Re:The article explains it (1)

PitaBred (632671) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934907)

Exactly. Those are the kinds of artifacts you get when you merge low quality data with high quality data... I'd bet that the low quality is showing the "lines" where the high-quality data doesn't scan, the high quality shows it at the slightly higher, flat areas. Perhaps just an offset problem with the high quality data.

Re:The article explains it (3, Informative)

MozeeToby (1163751) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934923)

Especially the fact that some of the lines are up to 20 miles apart from one another and the whole formation is almost 100 miles long and 50 tall. We're supposed to believe that 12000 years ago there was a city on a lone island that covered an area of 500 square miles? It's easy to lose your sense of scale looking at satellite imagery, people who think this is Atlantis would do well to zoom out a bit and scroll to the East and Look at the cities in Africa and Europe for comparison.

Let's think critically here... (3, Interesting)

Khopesh (112447) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935213)

A boat mapping the sea floor would presumably be mapping at even intervals rather than what we see in the image. At the end of the survey area, I'd expect to see more of a curve or ellipsis rather than hard right angles.

Also, the lines appear to go alongside the ridges the higher areas (and NEVER across them), which walls would do but boats floating overhead would probably not. In addition, there appears to be a main entryway to the center of the eastern wall, which makes the city idea more palatable.

Looking even farther to the east [google.com] (beyond the image provided by The Sun), we see something that looks more like the telltale grid such boats could create ... or, if you prefer, more potential city.

We can probably learn a lot more without going to the site and re-scanning; just ask the people who did the initial scans and get clarification; if it was made recently by scanning boats, the narrower areas would have been created by higher interest in those regions, either because they were looking at/for something, or because there was some other factor that limited the scanning area.

Another tact would be to figure out what the depth is currently, and then look at our current tectonic models to see if it could ever have been close to the surface. My (completely untrained) instinct says it's far too deep.

Re:The article explains it (1)

zippthorne (748122) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935373)

Pretty sure the track lines are the long roughly parallel lines surrounding it. The square in the picture doesn't look like them.

Perhaps it is the result of a single boat in a grid pattern. I wonder if google still has any info on the boats that the data came from. It'd be interesting to know what it or they were doing when gathering the data. Maybe it was a treasure hunter.

Re:The article explains it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26935451)

What happened was the lines are where boats made measurements using sonar, and the blank spots between the lines are areas the boat didn't go.

That only explains the question of what the lines are. It doesn't explain the question of why only in that particular area, in a grid. You can see the occasional 'sonar line' in other places, but not in a grid. I think the most likely reason is somebody was looking for something in particular in this area.

Even if... how BIG it should be? (0)

fasuin (532942) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934589)

Come on, that's about the size of half Europe!

Re:Even if... how BIG it should be? (1)

nycguy (892403) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934833)

No it's not. It's about 100 miles by 100 miles, if you check the scale. Still way too big to have been a city, but not even half the size of Portugal must less half the size of Europe.

Re:Even if... how BIG it should be? (4, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934953)

Parent is correct. Who knows more about the size of Europe than a German?

Re:Even if... how BIG it should be? (1)

butalearner (1235200) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934893)

I am getting about 90x60 mi or 150x100 km. You could fit the entire greater Phoenix area in there with room to spare in the corners.

My question is, if those are sonar artifacts, why aren't they seen anywhere else near there? Why that nearly perfect rectangle (actually, that would be really freaky if the actual aspect ratio were the golden ratio).

Re:Even if... how BIG it should be? (1)

Aqualung812 (959532) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935391)

Zoom out and look to the east, there are similar lines, just not as many or as dense.

It just looks like a ship was using side-scanning sonar in this area, trying to find something.

Canals anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26934591)

Is anyone besides me seeing the parallel with the supposed canals on Mars?

You mean where Atlantis used to be... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26934609)

Everybody knows it's in the Pegasus galaxy now.

Re:You mean where Atlantis used to be... (2, Informative)

m1ndrape (971736) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934653)

actually it's in Sans Fransisco Bay.

I wish (1)

nnnich (1454535) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934615)

I'm personally longing to find some billionair-head gullable enough to fund an expedition and pay me for months to cruise the oceans.

the dialogue I imagine would run as follows:
"hey guy, I found amelia earheart on mapquest"
"here's ten million dollars and a barge"
"sweet"

oops (1)

magsol (1406749) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934627)

Someone might want to inform Joseph Mallozzi of this finding.

Re:oops (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26934787)

I see what you did there.

idleispants (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26934629)

I was going to tag this idleispants until I realized it isn't an idle story, maybe slashdotispants is the right tag. Is there some site that captures what used good about slashdot?

Re:idleispants (1)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934739)

I was going to tag this idleispants until I realized it isn't an idle story, maybe slashdotispants is the right tag. Is there some site that captures what used good about slashdot?

It's Friday.

Lighten up, Nancy.

Didn't the allready find Atlantis... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26934639)

...off the coast of Spain, or something, quite some time ago?

This is (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26934665)

...why I get my news from The Onion, America's Finest News Source!

Government-Sponsored Lies! (2, Funny)

rsmith-mac (639075) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934679)

Oh please, we already know where Atlantis is! Dr. Beckett [wikipedia.org] parked it in San Francisco, next to the Golden Gate Bridge [wikipedia.org] .

This is just a government-sponsored lie to try to hide the fact that they already know about and have control of Atlantis. Anyone who watches TV knows the truth.

Re:Government-Sponsored Lies! (1)

martas (1439879) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935063)

Actually, you're wrong. Those marks were left from the time when the city was actually parked on the bottom of the Atlantic, before going back to the Pegasus. So the TV is right, but to is Google Maps.

*sigh* Good thing I came up with that theory. Otherwise I'd have to think that one of my two Gods had betrayed me...

Proof that it's real (4, Funny)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934681)

Google just got a DMCA takedown notice from Aquaman.

Re:Proof that it's real (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26934847)

Google just got a DMCA takedown notice from Aquaman.

Oh, that's nothing; just wait 'till Google catches a glimpse of Cthullu...there'll be a "takedown" notice issued, alright...;-)

=Smidge=

Analysuis done about 10 years (3, Informative)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934701)

ago showed a more reasonable interpetation of where Plato clains Atlantis is.

If the person(s) copying Plato's work missed one little mark, the location would not be the Atlantic, but rather in the Aegean sea.
The Greek authorities refuse to grant anyone permission to go looking becasue they area is littered with antiquities they wish to preserve.
I'm NOT saying ti is there, or that there is a cover up. It's an interesting thing to think about.

Re:Analysuis done about 10 years (1)

brian0918 (638904) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934863)

If the person(s) copying Plato's work missed one little mark, the location would not be the Atlantic, but rather in the Aegean sea.

Data corruption?? Have we learned nothing from Ma.gnolia?! Keep a backup!

Re:Analysuis done about 10 years (4, Interesting)

Anna Merikin (529843) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934931)

H.G.Welles agreed with you. In his Outline of History, he posited that the area now covered by the Mediterranean Sea was dry until about ten thousand years ago, the Atlantic being held back at Gibraltar until its level rose above the isthmus and indundated the whole area.

There a couple of recent mysteries that are better explained by Welles' theory than the current "scientific" ones:

1. The below-Mediterranean Sea-level cave paintings off the coasts of Spain and France.

B. The presence of ancient gold-and high-carbon-silicon steel making in almost all the coastal Mediterranean nations while their neighbors could only attain bronze. Many of these gold-and-steel-producing cultures were far-removed from each other, the only apparent link being their coastal Mediterranean location NB: metallurgical tech has always been connected with high culture. Think armor and armaments as well as jewelry.

With respect to TFA -- although I'm AnnaMerikin, I know about the Sun. Feh!

Where else is this glitch? (5, Interesting)

eagee (1308589) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934737)

'Just wondering if anyone has seen links to other examples of this glitch? I mean, I imagine if it's a flaw in their sonar system that it would've shown up somewhere else, right?

MOD PARENT UP! (0, Redundant)

kprsa (1379613) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934867)

My thoughts exactly. :-)

Re:Where else is this glitch? (1)

avg_joe_01 (756831) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935183)

I was kinda thinking the same thing, though not to conspiracy theory proportions, of course. There are things that are "road-like" all over the map though, so maybe those are related errors?

Re:Where else is this glitch? (1)

kprsa (1379613) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935291)

Yep, there are some. See, e.g.: 31 15'15.53N 24 15'30.53W. It may be also depth related, however... I would like to cross the area once more with the sonar boat once again... Diagonally. Just in case. ;-)

Re:Where else is this glitch? (1)

kprsa (1379613) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935367)

Sorry, that was: 31 13' N and 19 29' W...

Re:Where else is this glitch? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26935279)

Absolutely, just go up a bit and look at the coast right off of Ireland. There is an absolutely massive bit, pretty square.

Or go further up, just past Greenland, in the lighter Continental Shelf region just above Finland, and there are weird lines, like someone was scrawling giant runes.

Found those in just a few minutes of looking. I've little doubt it is exactly what Google says it is. They have the data.

Howard

Re:Where else is this glitch? (1)

Kamokazi (1080091) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935289)

If you look to the east a bit, there are some more similar markings, though not as many.

Re:Where else is this glitch? (3, Informative)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935293)

'Just wondering if anyone has seen links to other examples of this glitch? I mean, I imagine if it's a flaw in their sonar system that it would've shown up somewhere else, right?

Here's some more [google.com] - just to the east of the "original site."

The real 'atlantis' (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26934747)

"Beyond the Pillars of Hercules"

While Gibraltar, and the Atlas mountains is today called The Pillars of Hercules, in Greek times there were many. There were navigation pillars, or columns, that set up to be clearly visible as guides to the seafaring. They were commonly called "Pillars of Hercules" and so when Plato referred to this he may have been saying it about anywhere in the Meditarranean.

The '9000 years' is most likely a translation or transcription error for 900 years.

'900 years' before Plato's time there was a civilisation on an island that 'disappeared'. This was on Thera, today called Santorini, which was the largest volcanic erruption in the last few thousand years.

Re:The real 'atlantis' (1)

mr_mischief (456295) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935011)

The Dardanelles and the Bosphorus would be likely places for such navigational aids. The Aegean Sea or Sea of Marmara would then be candidates. Santorini is commonly considered an Aegean island, although as is often the case the distinction between one sea (the Mediterranean) and the other (the Aegean) is blurry and the smaller could be called just a part of the other.

Re:The real 'atlantis' (3, Informative)

tzot (834456) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935191)

Just FYI: fire up a python interpreter (slashdot is unicode-challenged) in a unicode environment with a nice Unicode font like DejaVu Sans.

>>> print u'\u0375\u0398'
This is what 9000 looks like in Ancient Greek: GREEK LOWER NUMERAL SIGN, GREEK CAPITAL LETTER THETA

>>> print u'\u03e1\u0374'
And this is what 900 looks like in Ancient Greek: GREEK SMALL LETTER SAMPI, GREEK NUMERAL SIGN

Quite different. So, obviously, you mean that quite recently, somebody with knowledge of arabic digits did a faulty transcription and nobody bothered to spot the error?

9600 BC called... (3, Funny)

JayTech (935793) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934769)

They want their city back.

Ahhh, The Weekly World News reborn. (3, Interesting)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934775)

    My sister hates me sending her articles from The Sun. It's roughly the equivelant of believing the old "Weekly World News". For those who aren't familiar with it, at least some stories had some tiny piece of truth, but that was about it. They'd make up wild stories, and people would believe it.

    I've seen similar marks when looking at photos of the moon, mars, and desolate places on Earth that people don't dig trenches in (or even live close to). Now, are they artifacts from the way the images were created, or natural lines, I dunno.

    I've looked at enough Atlantis stuff to be curious. What's missing from this is the essential shape of Atlantis. It was suppose to be concentric circles. The center was the main city/castle/etc. There was a ring of ocean, and then another ring of land. etc, etc, etc. There were one or two canals out of the city, likely to the North and South. The important part is .... ROUND, not square. :)

    What we have there is obviously ... a giant space flyswatter! The martians used it to squish some giant space fly. Don't look under it, you won't like what you find. :)

Re:Ahhh, The Weekly World News reborn. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26934937)

Just use the right transformation and a square becomes a circle

huh? (2, Funny)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934817)

I just hope they bring back Elvis next.

I don't get it - what did ScuttleMonkey mean by that? Did something happen to Elvis recently?

Missing geek details (3, Informative)

bokmann (323771) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934821)

The article was missing perhaps the only thing this crowd would care about:

  31Â24'16.68"N

  24Â22'40.83"W

Re:Missing geek details (2, Insightful)

Captain Splendid (673276) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934957)

The article was missing perhaps the only thing this crowd would care about:

31Â24'16.68"N

24Â22'40.83"W

Well, maybe back in 1999...but this is now. You'd get more points handing out the Google Maps link instead.

Re:Missing geek details (4, Funny)

A. B3ttik (1344591) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934975)

Great, now I can set the coordinates into my TomTom and drive my sub there.

Re:Missing geek details (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26935185)

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=31.404633,+-24.378008&sll=31.405096,24.378018&sspn=0.00837,0.019312&g=31.404633,+24.378008&ie=UTF8&ll=31.44741,-24.378662&spn=2.141519,4.943848&t=h&z=8&iwloc=addr

other interesting lines close by (0)

kcornia (152859) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934853)

To the right and up a bit there's some additional lines on the sea floor that are a bit too straight to be chance. Very interesting and I see a lot of treasure hunting headed that way very quickly.

More of these lines (4, Informative)

Drakin020 (980931) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934865)

Seriously if you look at it.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=31+15'15.53N+24+15'30.53W&sll=39.679105,-105.128672&sspn=0.011015,0.019312&ie=UTF8&ll=31.25977,-24.257812&spn=3.131698,4.943848&t=h&z=8 [google.com]

Scroll just a tad to the right. You will see more of those lines in the water. /Sorry no HTML skills

Re:More of these lines (1)

ApproachingLinux (756909) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935103)

People, seriously. (4, Insightful)

schmidt349 (690948) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934919)

Why, for the love of God, do you people think that there was a civilization called Atlantis just because it's in one of Plato's dialogues? Plato isn't even the one who says it; it's a character in one of his dialogues, who claims to have got the information from the Egyptians. He also says that there was an apocalyptic war six thousand years before his own time between Atlantis and Athens, a city we know on the basis of archaeology hasn't been inhabited for much more than 3,500 years.

Ask yourselves three questions:

1. How can the Athenians have fought a war against another civilization at a time when all good archaeology and paleontology tells us humans didn't yet live in developed cities or fight wars?

2. How can Plato's source have known about Atlantis? It's not mentioned in any of the preserved archives of the ancient Egyptians.

3. How can knowledge of this so-called war and apocalypse have survived until ca. 350 BCE when the Greeks didn't have reliable information about their own history going back before 1000 BCE? Hint: if you say "but the Iliad..." I am going to beat you repeatedly with a copy of the collected works of Milman Parry.

Plato created the fiction of Atlantis to make a point in one of his dialogues. Give it up already. If you believe in Atlantis you may as well believe it was destroyed by Captain Nemo with the help of a plucky fifteen year-old French engineer and a lion cub.

Re:People, seriously. (4, Funny)

sesshomaru (173381) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935093)

Yes, the truly enlightened know it was a veiled reference to R'Lyeh.

Plato was just protecting his audience from the inevitable madness that seethes from that name!

Re:People, seriously. (1)

master_p (608214) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935215)

It may not be Atlantis, but what if it is indeed an ancient city of some kind?

Re:People, seriously. (3, Interesting)

spun (1352) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935317)

Plato was translating from Egyptian, and mistook 'hundred' for 'thousand.' If we divide his measurements by ten, that puts Atlantis right around Crete, about the same size as Crete, right about the time Santorini blew up. The proto-Greeks had been paying tribute to the Minoan civilization (read the myth of Theseus and the Minotaur) for many years. The Minoans were an advanced civilization, with huge multi-level palaces, advanced agriculture & maritime technology, running water, sewers, and so on. Plato didn't make up the myth, he just got the numbers wrong. The myth of Atlantis was most likely describing the Minoans.

NAH... (1)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934921)

That's New Orleans.

experimental arifacts (5, Informative)

fermion (181285) | more than 4 years ago | (#26934945)

While this is funny, it is another example of how artifacts of an experiment can lead to misinterpretation of otherwise valid results. The last big example of this was the man from mars. The most recent is clear and indisputable picture of this humanoid walking across mars [sciencenewsblog.com] . Then of course there is carving of the face on mars [aimvotal.com] . All this comes from the mistaken assumption that somehow a photograph captures the complete reality of a situation. Even without the processing of such photographs, there is always a chance of injecting an artifact.

OMG i found another, even bigger city !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26934979)

OMG i found another, even bigger city !!

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=74.752746,39.880371&spn=5.105844,33.837891&z=6

Same kind of stuff off the NC coast.. (1)

ivan_w (1115485) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935013)

Obviously something to do with how sonar mapping is done..

(30 miles S-E of Cape Lookout).

--Ivan

Not to worry the truth is out there. (0)

arthurpaliden (939626) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935019)

The mystery behind this picture like the Face on Mars will soon be resolved once more detail is acquired.

Scale is Wrong (1)

pz (113803) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935033)

Having a look through Google Maps of the spot, the scale is wrong to be a city. It's about 100 miles (160 km) on a side! Not a city, and most certainly not an ancient city, as they were even smaller. Could well be an artifact.

Martian face all over again.... (2, Informative)

macraig (621737) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935053)

Yep, here we go again: people executing "bad science" by seeing what they want to see, rather than what is actually there. Those "lines" would actually be depressions, not walls, according to the topography as shown in GE, and they are interrupted by natural peaks and other features in a way that doesn't make much sense, were that actually Atlantis. What's more, there's an even more outstanding example of that same sort of artifacts off the southwest coast of Ireland, below its continental shelf; that area makes it pretty obvious that the cause is exactly as Google claimed: a side effect of the way the region was scanned with sonar.

These folks should go back to staring at the face on Mars and dreaming of meeting little green men. :-)

Atlantean Leg Bones Found!! (1)

SpiderCyde (1480195) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935085)

They somehow resembled Patrick Duffy...

Sorry Atlantis was ROUND (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26935175)

Atlantis is described by Plato's writing as ROUND,
a series of concentric circles... not square.
It was located on a "smooth and rectangular plain", not that is -was- rectangular. It was surrounded by the 3 concentric circular canals...
the idea of the circles was that it was build on the ancients idea of "As above, so below".. in other words, much like the sacred geometry, Atlantis was built in a model congruent to the universe or cosmos, which they thought was shaped as a series of concentric circles.

The Ocean Spells "SEX" Also (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#26935227)

Above Finland, the letters S-E-X can be found under the ocean floor. Obviously an ancient civilization...

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=73.214013,43.374023&spn=5.848205,28.300781&t=h&z=5

Let me google that for you. (1)

zizzo (86200) | more than 4 years ago | (#26935269)

Atlantis is right here [google.com] .

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