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Microsoft Buys Motion-Detection Technology

Soulskill posted more than 5 years ago | from the fewer-broken-televisions-this-way dept.

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DaMan1970 writes with news that Microsoft has purchased 3DV Systems, a company that specializes in motion detection technology. When early reports of this deal appeared last week, it led to speculation that this could be part of Microsoft's plans for future gaming technology. 3DV itself has been focused on the gaming market. "Now that graphics have become so advanced, it explains, the key to making a real difference lies in how you can control the game. The ZCam lets players control the game using body gestures alone, rather as PlayStation's EyeToy does, or Microsoft's Vision or Nintendo's Wii. 3DV Systems argues that its system is better than these, adding that you don't have to wear anything."

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Who cares? (4, Funny)

rnaiguy (1304181) | more than 5 years ago | (#26954471)

I don't wear anything when I play with my Wii as it is.

Re:Who cares? (1)

jimmyhat3939 (931746) | more than 5 years ago | (#26954645)

Right. That was my first thought. Now, presumably this device is more advanced than the Wii, so we'll see what Microsoft is able to make of it. I feel pretty confident that most games in 5-10 years will have a Wii-like interface, given the direction of the industry.

Re:Who cares? (1)

Hojima (1228978) | more than 5 years ago | (#26954703)

the key to making a real difference lies in how you can control the game

No the key difference is to make easy to handle the control. The Wii was successful because it reached out to a new market (i.e. people who don't play video games because it's too difficult/expensive). You can still make use of buttons alone and accomplish that (for example: guitar hero). I personally think that they should go the route of integration with the PC. It could be multipurpose to speed up PC games as well, and I'd much rather play halo 4 or halo wars with a mouse rather than wave some wand at the screen. If you leave out the games that require integration and time to appreciate, PlayStation 4 will undoubtedly dominate that niche.

Re:Who cares? (1)

fractoid (1076465) | more than 5 years ago | (#26955525)

You can still make use of buttons alone and accomplish that (for example: guitar hero).

Actually Guitar Hero is a great example of a custom controller making the game work. Ever tried playing it with just a standard controller? Nope, me neither.

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26954775)

So you play without a controller?

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26963361)

you don't wear a controller.
You hold it.

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26955477)

I don't wear anything when I play with my Wii as it is.

If it's that wii, colthes would only make it more difficult to find.

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26964409)

That was you [gizmodo.com] ?

Monkeyboy not wearing anything? (0, Offtopic)

gchesney0001 (667278) | more than 5 years ago | (#26954473)

The mental image is horrifying...

Multi-purpose (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26954481)

It will also be useful for detecting incoming projectiles, i.e. chairs thrown by Steve Ballmer.

Re:Multi-purpose (1)

Fluffeh (1273756) | more than 5 years ago | (#26954683)

Or perhaps flying shoes aimed at international visitors?

Re:Multi-purpose (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26955199)

Years and years on, and /. proves that like a child, it still finds the same joke just as funny!

Seriously, this is getting old now children.

Re:Multi-purpose (1)

PinkyDead (862370) | more than 5 years ago | (#26955649)

And for tracking Vista sales

Best used by... (2, Insightful)

westlake (615356) | more than 5 years ago | (#26956229)

And for tracking Vista sales

It's rather a pity Slashdot's jokes and memes do not come with an expiration date.

It would make for clearer thinking:

Oh, the humanity: Windows 7's draconian DRM? [arstechnica.com]

You know you've reached rock bottom when every Microsoft-bashing story from kdawson is met with gales of laughter across the Internet.

Vista is close to taking 25% of the client OS market: Top Operating System Share Trend [hitslink.com]

Linux has yet to scratch its way into the single digit.

OEM Vista is the 64 Bit OS that runs on the dual or quad core PC with four to eight gigabytes of RAM that you can buy at any WalMart.

The same WalMart which unloaded its Linux inventory in favor of XP on the netbook.

Re:Best used by... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26957565)

Is it raining up there in Redmond today? And how's the view from your cube in MS HQ?

Great comeback there, kid. (1)

westlake (615356) | more than 5 years ago | (#26960949)

Is it raining up there in Redmond today? And how's the view from your cube in MS HQ?

Is this the best you can do?

Re:Multi-purpose (1)

wisty (1335733) | more than 5 years ago | (#26955883)

It's so Clippy can get out of my way when I throw my chair at him.

"It looks like you're trying to kill the help assistant!"

Re:Multi-purpose (1)

MobileTatsu-NJG (946591) | more than 5 years ago | (#26959687)

It will also be useful for detecting incoming projectiles, i.e. chairs thrown by Steve Ballmer.

Question for the people that spent a mod point calling this funny: Do you still laugh at Lewinski jokes?

from where? (1, Funny)

LingNoi (1066278) | more than 5 years ago | (#26954483)

Did they get the money to buy this from the laid off workers?

Quick link... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26954549)

Be careful, but here is where they got the messed up information. Only click on this if you *really* want to know:The CowTax Site [cowtax.com]

Re:Quick link... (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26954625)

Parent is a Troll posting a link to a shock site. Just FYI.

Huh.. (2, Funny)

michael021689 (791941) | more than 5 years ago | (#26954485)

That explains why they need to have their laid off workers pay their severance back!

Microsoft buys technology rather than develops it. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26954647)

Do you notice that Microsoft buys new technology rather than developing it?

Re:Microsoft buys technology rather than develops (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26954663)

Why yes, I certainly DOS!

Re:Microsoft buys technology rather than develops (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26954767)

Well... kind of.

Microsoft do develop a lot of technology on their own, through their research division. However, none of that ever ends up in a shipping product, because it was developed in complete isolation with no regard as to whether or not the technology might actually be useful.

The only technology in a shipping product that Microsoft develop themselves tends to be re-implementations of existing technology - stuff like the Windows NT kernel (they bought the team that developed VMS, and had them re-implement it), or the .NET framework (basically a re-implementation of Java tied heavily to the Windows platform).

Re:Microsoft buys technology rather than develops (1)

wisty (1335733) | more than 5 years ago | (#26955885)

.NET is more like Python, in some ways.

Re:Microsoft buys technology rather than develops (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26956163)

You mean it can't figure out tabs and spaces so you end up having to copy and paste tabs?

Re:Microsoft buys technology rather than develops (1)

Canazza (1428553) | more than 5 years ago | (#26955933)

the only thing I Know MS R&D has come up with is Songsmith...

Re:Microsoft buys technology rather than develops (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26955011)

That's just not fair. Most of the time they just steal it.

Oh great: (0, Redundant)

Fluffeh (1273756) | more than 5 years ago | (#26954509)

adding that you don't have to wear anything

As if LAN parties weren't bad enough, now I have to frag pimply boys who haven't even got the decency to cover up their jingly bits? On top of that, rather than hearing clicks of mice and taps of keyboards, now you will get to hear fat out of breath kids as they wave and flail about (with their jingly bits flapping in the wind).

That's just put a dampner on your next night of playing Left 4 Dead eh?

Re:Oh great: (1)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 5 years ago | (#26954951)

That's just put a dampner on your next night of playing Left 4 Dead eh?

Not really. Fat out of breath kids waving and flailing about, jingly bits flapping in the wind, especially with an appropriate lack of hygiene...

Sounds like about the most immersive Left 4 Dead ever -- playing with people who look and smell just like real live zombies!

first... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26954511)

FIRST PO$t. target acquired, breaking law #1 of robot law.

Windows 7 Activation (4, Funny)

BrunoBigfoot (996441) | more than 5 years ago | (#26954691)

will now involve successful completion of the Hokey-Pokey, the Macarena, and the Lambada.

Re:Windows 7 Activation (2, Funny)

TENTH SHOW JAM (599239) | more than 5 years ago | (#26954729)

My keyboard is now covered in coffee.

That would never have happened if I had this tech in place. I would have spat all over the floor/screen/ZCam.

Re:Windows 7 Activation (1)

wisty (1335733) | more than 5 years ago | (#26955891)

Don't tell EA!

The check-box (1)

westlake (615356) | more than 5 years ago | (#26956277)

Activation.

Ballmer throwing chairs.

Clippy.

Vista sales.

Have I missed anything?

Re:The check-box (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26957985)

Yes, you did...

All your base are belong to us!

LOL.

XBOX IS HUGE1111!11!.

I see what you did.

Oh, wait!

Over 9000.

I'm not going to list the internet here and other overused cliches including the "word" meme itself!

Can ANYONE on Slashdot make an anti-[hated subject] statement that's ACTUALLY FUNNY?
There were better attempts at bashing [hated subject] on Dora the Explorer.

Re:The check-box (1)

westlake (615356) | more than 5 years ago | (#26961087)

I'm not going to list the internet here and other overused cliches including the "word" meme itself!

You got me there. I tend to spell "meme." with an "i" and not an "e." But "idee fixe" seems just too French.

"you don't have to wear anything" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26954733)

Oh, no.
Thousands of gamers playing away, wearing nothing...
I did NOT want to hear this.

[Memory purge]

[memory purge]

What was I saying?

uh oh (1)

ILuvRamen (1026668) | more than 5 years ago | (#26954757)

But making gamers move would make them way healthier and more physically fit than the average person. So where does that leave us? With an army up superhumans that also know strategy, have good reflexes, and can handle a gun. Oh well, we'll need them when China demands their 10 trillion back.

Re:uh oh (1)

Gabrill (556503) | more than 5 years ago | (#26954783)

They still won't have suntans, good nutrition, social skills, or usable vision. We don't have anything to worry about.

Re:uh oh (1)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 5 years ago | (#26954983)

You don't need social skills to fire a gun -- in fact, lack of social skills may help there. The less interaction with fellow human beings, the less empathy.

Good nutrition, maybe not -- but it's not like that's hard. They do make protein bars which taste every bit as good as the kind of crap snacks you'd be eating. Coffee instead of coke means less sugar, and cheaper.

Suntans, oh well, give em sunscreen, and makeup (blackface even) if they need it for camo purposes. But if they're healthier, more physically fit, and know strategy, they might go to the beach more, either for the girls or deliberately for the suntan.

Great (4, Funny)

SalsaDot (772010) | more than 5 years ago | (#26954795)

So now Clippy can pop up when it detects fapping.

Re:Great (3, Funny)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 5 years ago | (#26955027)

"Do you need help with that?"

Re:Great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26955981)

Hey, I have low standards, but I can't imagine that getting a handjob from a paperclip would be any fun at all.

Too much effort (4, Funny)

alienunknown (1279178) | more than 5 years ago | (#26954919)

The Atari VCS had it right. Only one button requiring minimal effort. Then came the NES with its 2 button "joy pad". That wasn't so bad until the SNES with its 4 button controller came out and the Sega with its 6 button Mega Drive/Genesis II controller. I think my head will explode if I start talking about the amount of buttons included on the Atari Jaguar controller!

Here I am, all excited about the Wii with the prospect of having a game console with only 3 main buttons to push! Shaped just like a TV remote and requiring the same amount of effort. And what does Nintendo do? They make it so you have to wave the bloody thing around which requires even more effort then using the Atari Jaguar and its over 15 buttons controller!!!!

I think I'm going to take an asprin and lay down for a while. Call me when mind-controlled games are available on a console.

Re:Too much effort (1)

Tokerat (150341) | more than 5 years ago | (#26955381)

...the SNES with its 4 button controller...

SNES has 6 buttons and a D-Pad. First system with index finder buttons, L & R.

Re:Too much effort (1)

Dusthead Jr. (937949) | more than 5 years ago | (#26955607)

You obviously never played a Colecovison, or an Intellevison before.

Re:Too much effort (1)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 5 years ago | (#26959711)

The Atari VCS had it right. Only one button requiring minimal effort. Then came the NES with its 2 button "joy pad". That wasn't so bad until the SNES with its 4 button controller came out and the Sega with its 6 button Mega Drive/Genesis II controller. I think my head will explode if I start talking about the amount of buttons included on the Atari Jaguar controller!

Defender [wikipedia.org] , arcade version. And if that's not complex enough, Stargate [wikipedia.org] , arcade version.

Yet another Microsoft innovation! (0, Troll)

jonaskoelker (922170) | more than 5 years ago | (#26955137)

"It's great we have Microsoft be innovative in ways that small and unknown companies can't be, isn't it?", said Steve Ballmer at a press conference.

When someone pointed out the obvious, Ballmer threw their chair at them.

Playstation Eye (1)

Enderandrew (866215) | more than 5 years ago | (#26955181)

You don't wear anything for that either. A camera just tracks your movement.

Hmm... hmm? (1)

suupaabaka (854944) | more than 5 years ago | (#26955357)

I wonder what happens if someone walks between the player and the TV/console... or even if you scratch a random body part without thinking. And unlike the Wiimote, it'd probably only be useful for some games (dance games come to mind). The Wii actually has the tactile feature, so if you're playing golf, you're actually holding onto a stick. What about this 3DV thing? You hold onto nothing? You hold onto anything that's vaguely stick shaped? And what about action/adventure games? How are they going to incorporate the whole run&gun thing? Questions, questions...

Re:Hmm... hmm? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26955489)

You hold onto anything that's vaguely stick shaped - I've some game ideas right there... the money shot, for once

Re:Hmm... hmm? (1)

IBBoard (1128019) | more than 5 years ago | (#26956139)

How are they going to incorporate the whole run&gun thing?

Maybe running on the spot and sudden jerks of the hands to indicate "recoil"? Either that or hook in an audio system and get the user being even more stupid by yelling "bang" for each shot.

Re:Hmm... hmm? (1)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 5 years ago | (#26959795)

Maybe running on the spot and sudden jerks of the hands to indicate "recoil"? Either that or hook in an audio system and get the user being even more stupid by yelling "bang" for each shot.

Real Men [imdb.com] the videogame?

Good at seperating background from player? (1)

Tokerat (150341) | more than 5 years ago | (#26955371)

...there's a lot of stuff in my mom's basement.

Re:Good at seperating background from player? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26964683)

I've used one of their devices. It generates a depth image from IR reflections, in addition to a colour image. That makes it very good at picking out figures from the background.

If you play your games while wearing a cape, though, you may be out of luck.

The one we had was a bit of a pain to calibrate, but hopefully they'll automate that process further.

Wex-box? (1)

darthvader100 (1482651) | more than 5 years ago | (#26955451)

What do you think the next xbox will be called? xbox 720? xii 360(stolen from ninty)? xbox3(from sony)? xcube(nintendo again)?dreamgrasp (sega)? Any better ones?

Re:Wex-box? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26963355)

Any better ones?

Well, they couldn't be any worse than the ones you suggested.

Re:Wex-box? (1)

Deadguy2322 (761832) | more than 5 years ago | (#26964845)

All you stupid fucking fags who use "Ninty" as an abbreviation should pe sterilised in the most painful way possible, then beaten to death with the parts removed, just to be sure. It is so fucking lame.

Oh dear... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26955465)

"3DV Systems argues that its system is better than these, adding that you don't have to wear anything"

Anything? really???

coming soon (1)

Turiko (1259966) | more than 5 years ago | (#26956347)

coming soon: the wii-360, because microsoft can't stand nintendo havign a market share!

My first thought when seeing the title (1)

clickclickdrone (964164) | more than 5 years ago | (#26956405)

Was that thy were looking for signs of life in their 'programming with security in mind' department.

Salute (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26974865)

Ah, finally I can do the 3 finger salute without the use of a keyboard! Mind you, it would be hard to display 3 middle fingers at once, unless I use someone else's hand for a moment.

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