Beta
×

Welcome to the Slashdot Beta site -- learn more here. Use the link in the footer or click here to return to the Classic version of Slashdot.

Thank you!

Before you choose to head back to the Classic look of the site, we'd appreciate it if you share your thoughts on the Beta; your feedback is what drives our ongoing development.

Beta is different and we value you taking the time to try it out. Please take a look at the changes we've made in Beta and  learn more about it. Thanks for reading, and for making the site better!

The Chinese (Web Servers) Are Coming

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the maoism-taoism-i-ching-and-chess dept.

The Internet 231

Glyn Moody writes "The February 2009 Netcraft survey is not the usual 'Apache continues to trounce Microsoft IIS' story: there's a new entrant — from China. 'This majority of this month's growth is down to the appearance of 20 million Chinese sites served by QZHTTP. This web server is used by QQ to serve millions of Qzone sites beneath the qq.com domain.' What exactly is this QZHTTP, and what does it all mean for the world of Web servers?"

cancel ×

231 comments

Sorry! There are no comments related to the filter you selected.

Self-Censored (5, Funny)

FredFredrickson (1177871) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971539)

Self Censoring Web servers! Automatically removes all politically sensitive info for you! This will catch on quick, I bet!

Re:Self-Censored (5, Funny)

UID30 (176734) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971885)

Self Censoring Web servers! Automatically removes all politically sensitive info for you! This will catch on quick, I bet!

pfft. I've had this running as an apache module for years. mod_bigbrother ftw.

Re:Self-Censored (-1, Troll)

andyring (100627) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972233)

I thought it was:

mod_Obama

Or could have been:

mod_FCC

I could be wrong though.

Re:Self-Censored (1, Flamebait)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972305)

mod_Obama

Naw, a Democratic President would never condone internet censorship. Only a Republican President would ever sign [wikipedia.org] something like that into law.

Re:Self-Censored (0, Offtopic)

blhack (921171) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972871)

I don't know why you're being modded "flamebait" (okay, yes i do).

Have people really got their heads that far up their ass? Look around you. Look at what Obama is doing. Every time that this guy gets on the television the stock market takes a nosedive. The "economic stimulus bill" that he passed is one of the most absurd, destructive, ridiculous things in the history of the American Economy.

So...what is he doing? I mean...not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, hill-dwelling, gun-hoarding psycho here, but if you were going to set yourself up as the dictator of a socialist nation, what would you do?

He got lots and lots and lots and LOTS of support during the election. People fell in love with him. People had an almost religious experience. They were so completely and utterly devoted to anything Obama that he could do no wrong in their eyes.

Then...only a few WEEKS after he gets into office he starts mucking about in the Economy. An economic stimulus bill that almost deliberately nearly a trillion dollars on failing projects. Why? Why would he do that?

Then, during a recession mind you, he decides to INCREASE taxes!? That is one of the most batshit insane fucking things a person can do!

Okay....well then we start seeing things like the "fairness doctrine" popping up. Sounds like a great way of censoring people that don't agree with you, wouldn't you say?

Okay, guys...I promise, I usually poke fun at the people "wake up sheeple!" types, but seriously? Is ANY of this stuff explainable? WTF is going on? What motivation could there possibly be for pretty much everything that he has done if NOT to intentionally drive our country into a crisis?

Re:Self-Censored (1)

cencithomas (721581) | more than 5 years ago | (#26973029)

What motivation could there possibly be for pretty much everything that George W. Bush and co. did if NOT intentionally drive our country into a crisis?

There, fixed that for yez!

Re:Self-Censored (0, Offtopic)

andymadigan (792996) | more than 5 years ago | (#26973047)

He cut taxes, where's the increase you're babbling about? Specify a real, legitimate link. Why are the republicans so mad about this when Bush gave billions to the financial and car industries anyway (talk about failing projects...)?

Re:Self-Censored (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26973079)

amadigan@gmail.com

Re:Self-Censored (1, Insightful)

blhack (921171) | more than 5 years ago | (#26973111)

He cut taxes, where's the increase you're babbling about?

He cut taxes for the wrong people.

Bush gave billions to the financial and car industries anyway

It makes people angry, I know, but trickle-down economics *works*. Giving money to the ultra-rich makes people angry (myself included), but what are those rich people good at? Turning 1 dollar into 20.
Give them a million dollars and watch them create a multi-million dollar job creation machine. People that make $30,000 a year are not out there building wealth and creating jobs. People making $3 million a year, are.

Its simple, its mean, its cold, but it works.

Re:Self-Censored (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26973069)

Dude, get a clue stick. The economy was in a nose dive before he too office.

Re:Self-Censored (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26972149)

Self Censoring Web servers! Automatically removes all politically sensitive info for you! This will catch on quick, I bet!

um, that's not funny. it's serious. or insightful.

Re:Self-Censored (1)

guyminuslife (1349809) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972311)

Sure, it can handle heavy loads, but how quickly can your web server sync its logs with gov.cn?

Corrected Story Blurb (5, Funny)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971557)

... the appearance of 20 million Chinese phisher sites ...

Re:Corrected Story Blurb (1)

pxlmusic (1147117) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971569)

exactly.

Re:Corrected Story Blurb (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26972561)

I'm also part of this conversation!

Re:Corrected Story Blurb (1)

VeNoM0619 (1058216) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971667)

This web server is used by QQ to serve millions of Qzone sites beneath the qq.com domain.'

I don't think whoever modded you troll understands the meaning of QQ...

Re:Corrected Story Blurb (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26971917)

and what does it means venom born on june 19 ?

Re:Corrected Story Blurb (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26971927)

Nippon QQ
Ash gala wonderful
Easy rider salad the mall
Who dong hide label
GOO! GOO! GOO! GOO!
BUS! BUS! BUS! BUS!

There's a video that helps explain this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26972453)

Ok, if you can stand the sight of a bunch of skinny Japanese comedians running around in underwear, there is a music video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW6M8D41ZWU [youtube.com]

It's not as gay as it sounds.

Re:Corrected Story Blurb (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26972673)

nippon kyuu kyuu
demo ashita wa wandahoo
ijiwaru sarete mo
futon haireba
guu! guu! guu! guu!
pasu! pasu! pasu! pasu!
ohayou

Re:Corrected Story Blurb (1)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972073)

Last I checked, it was net/phone-slang for 'cry moar.'[sic] As in QQ noob.[siq]

I suspect that isn't what you mean, though.

Re:Corrected Story Blurb (1, Funny)

the_B0fh (208483) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972299)

net/phone-slang ? I tried to emerge that, and nothing happened. Is this a new variant of slang that supports voip? Where can I get it?

Re:Corrected Story Blurb (1)

khellendros1984 (792761) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972713)

Judging from the name, I'd guess it's a version of phone that supports slang =p

Re:Corrected Story Blurb (2, Interesting)

Profane MuthaFucka (574406) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972247)

As in, a dozen men stand around a woman and QQ all over her face.

Pheature creep... (1)

geekmux (1040042) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972279)

... the appearance of 20 million Chinese phisher sites ...

Ah, is it still considered phishing when it's a feature enabled by default?

Just curious.

Re:Pheature creep... (5, Funny)

Fred_A (10934) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972431)

Ah, is it still considered phishing when it's a feature enabled by default?

Just curious.

Teach one man to phish and he can feed...

Teach 20 million to phish and you have the Internet.

Population growth (5, Funny)

dimethylxanthine (946092) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971561)

Didn't they implement the 1 server per company policy some time ago now...?? oh wait.

That's nothing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26972235)

If it does not match up correctly, they kill it.

The GeoCities of China? (5, Interesting)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971565)

Could someone help me out here, I am an ignorant occidental American developer barely able to use English ... I thought QQ was just a messaging program of bloated malware and adware [wikipedia.org] that is insanely popular in China? Has it become (or is it aiming to become) more than that?

Its parent company is a media company [wikipedia.org] ... is this destined to be China's GeoCities era with horrid user generated web content alongside ads and malicious user generated data like GeoCities in the 90s? Or maybe the Myspace/Facebook [datacenterknowledge.com] of China?

What exactly is this QZHTTP?

I honestly don't know. Never heard of it before now, my Google Fu finds nothing in English. Indicating it is most likely propriety to Tancent QQ ...

I hope this didn't affect the IPv4 exhaustion date [wikipedia.org] .

I guess this could also just be a whole lot of fuss over something that will become common place. I mean with the event of virtualization, hilarious 32 core chips due out and predictably cheap storage/memory ... won't every large company soon be able to foot the bill on and house (what appears to be) 20 million web servers? I guess IP addressing, routing & bandwidth will always be a problem but the hardware is sure getting to the point.

Re:The GeoCities of China? (5, Funny)

the white plague (1436257) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971659)

I thought 'QQ' was "round eyes filled with tears".

Re:The GeoCities of China? (5, Funny)

khellendros1984 (792761) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972751)

Nope. It's boobs with tassels on the nipples.

Re:The GeoCities of China? (3, Informative)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971967)

    My guess on the QZHTTP thing is that they're simply sending their own banner, rather than that of their real server. It's not exactly rocket science. Anyone who's good enough to handle millions of domains can set one line of configuration I wish we had some examples. The qq.com domain itself, besides being pathetically slow, gives these headers:

telnet www.qq.com 80
Connected to www.qq.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
GET ? HTTP/1.1

HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request
Server: squid/2.6.STABLE5
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:17:23 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 1336
Expires: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:17:23 GMT
X-Squid-Error: ERR_INVALID_URL 0
X-Cache: MISS from rainny.qq.com
Via: 1.0 rainny.qq.com:80 (squid/2.6.STABLE5)
Connection: close

    So, I'd guess they're basing that analysis on the Via or X-Cache lines (or both)

For those who aren't familiar with the headers, this is what it looks like from Slashdot
telnet slashdot.org 80
Trying 216.34.181.45...
Connected to slashdot.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
GET ? HTTP/1.1

HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:19:49 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.41 (Unix) mod_perl/1.31-rc4
Connection: close
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Vary: Accept-Encoding, User-Agent

I'll simpify the rest, and just show the "Server:" line.

Apache.org: Server: Apache/2.2.9 (Unix)
Microsoft: Server: Microsoft-HTTPAPI/2.0
Whitehouse.gov: Server: AkamaiGHost
cnn.com: Server: Apache

Re:The GeoCities of China? (2, Funny)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972053)

Netcraft confirms it! Apache is dying, to be replaced by Apache!

Re:The GeoCities of China? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Conrad (600139) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972183)

Try qzone.qq.com rather than just qq.com.

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:41:06 GMT
Server: QZHTTP-2.3
Content-type: text/html
Content-length: 1728
Connection: close

Re:The GeoCities of China? (1)

TheLink (130905) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972867)

My verdict is a modified version of thttpd, see the error message:

telnet qzone.qq.com 80
Trying 58.251.60.181...
Connected to qzone.qq.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
GET - HTTP/1.0

HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request
Server: qhttpd
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 235

<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>400 Bad Request</TITLE></HEAD><BODY><H2>400 Bad Request</H2>Your request has bad syntax or is inherently impossible to satisfy.<HR><ADDRESS><A HREF="http://www.tencent.com/">qhttpd Server</A></ADDRESS></BODY></HTML>
Connection closed by foreign host.

Re:The GeoCities of China? (1)

omegadraconis (1348397) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972731)

An NMAP Scan on qq.com flags it as being Apache HTTPD. From my log: "PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION 80/tcp open http Apache httpd |_ HTML title: 302 Found"

Re:The GeoCities of China? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26972811)

I think you are mistaken here.

The sites in question are not qq.com they are subdomains of .qzone.qq.com
(BTW http://qzone.qq.com/ [qq.com] by itself does not use QZHTTP 2.3 web server software it uses Apache)
like
http://182273490.qzone.qq.com/ [qq.com]
Here is the netcraft report for that site:
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=182273490.qzone.qq.com [netcraft.com]

These sites appear to be running on Linux and state they are running QZHTTP-2.3 web server software.

Yes you can edit the banner but often netcraft digs further into it then this (response times, packet information, etc) and doesn't blindly use the banner value.

It is likely to be using a modified version of Apache like Google do with their GWS (Google Web Server) software.

And thus given a separate version of web server software in its own right. So I suspect there has to be a significant changes to the normal operation/code of Apache (or whatever they have modded). It could be a whole new set of web server software but likely a significantly modified version.

Hope it helps

Re:The GeoCities of China? (3, Interesting)

miller60 (554835) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972937)

Netcraft's actual site report [netcraft.com] for qq.com shows it using Apache on Linux, so odds are qzhttp is either customized Apache or using altered headers.

Spoofing headers to fool Netcraft is nothing new. Bruce Perens did it [netcraft.com] with his Open Source Parking project. He was using lighttpd but wanted to help Apache's numbers.

Re:The GeoCities of China? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26973147)

Two things:

Use netcat, not telnet.
Send a HEAD request, not a bogus GET.

Re:The GeoCities of China? (3, Informative)

querist (97166) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972133)

I don't know about malware in QQ's software, but QQ is much more than just China's answer to Microsoft Messenger.

QQ is a portal site that links to search engines and also provides users a place to create their "home" on the Internet, much like live.com and other sites.

Yes, QQ is insanely popular in China, as is MSN and Yahoo! chat.

It's apache (1)

seanadams.com (463190) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972185)

I'll bet dollars to donuts it's just "a patchy" apache. This raises the question as to how netcraft should determine speciation...

Might be a version of thttpd instead (5, Insightful)

TheLink (130905) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972817)

I think it's more likely to be a version of thttpd because of an error message I got:

telnet qzone.qq.com 80
Trying 58.251.60.181...
Connected to qzone.qq.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
GET - HTTP/1.0

HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request
Server: qhttpd
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 235

<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>400 Bad Request</TITLE></HEAD><BODY><H2>400 Bad Request</H2>Your request has bad syntax or is inherently impossible to satisfy.<HR><ADDRESS><A HREF="http://www.tencent.com/">qhttpd Server</A></ADDRESS></BODY></HTML>

Compare that message with:
thttpd-2.25b
libhttpd.c: "Your request has bad syntax or is inherently impossible to satisfy.\n";

Re:The GeoCities of China? (2, Insightful)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972211)

What exactly is this QZHTTP?

I honestly don't know. Never heard of it before now, my Google Fu finds nothing in English. Indicating it is most likely propriety to Tancent QQ ...

Proprietary? Perhaps. But I'd be willing to bet that the codebase is more than likely a fork of Apache or another open source web server, or else a "customised" version of IIS. Copyrights are not a Chinese concept, and I doubt that a site as large as QQ claims to be is running off a web server they rolled themselves.

Re:The GeoCities of China? (1)

jerAzevedo (1326315) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972995)

FYI in English we usually say "western" (eg westerner) not occidental but your english is very good. I don't know if that word is used in Britain but very few Americans would understand that term.

Neck-and-neck (3, Insightful)

conureman (748753) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971597)

LOL- good to see MS prompted to fight for its second place standing.

How Dare they. (0)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971677)

How dare the country with the worlds highest population, effect all our statistics and charts. Sorry China has no where to go but up. A giant population who has been repressed is not experience a free(ish) market. Will cause some changes.

This isn't a bad thing, if you learn to use it to your advantage.

Good News ! Dear China : +1, Informative (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26971681)

Please appoint a Trustee In Bankruptcy In Residence For :

Obama [whitehouse.org] .

Yours In Communism,
Kilgore Trout

P.S.: Slashot - Get some Cyrillic fonts !!

Re:Good News ! Dear China : +1, Informative (3, Informative)

khellendros1984 (792761) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972843)

"Get some Cyrillic fonts" doesn't make any sense. It's not a lack of fonts that are causing the problem, it's the non-unicode character encoding (Latin-1).

Why mock this ? (4, Insightful)

Yvanhoe (564877) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971685)

I don't understand the people mocking this. Sure this is probably a service a la geocities with a minority of webpages worth of any interest. But some are. Internet gains million of new users and publishers and people just dismiss this as non-significant while we should try to build bridges. As ugly a Myspace-QQ bridge may sound, it could be a worthwhile objective...

Re:Why mock this ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26971839)

I don't understand the people mocking this. Sure this is probably a service a la geocities with a minority of webpages worth of any interest. But some are. Internet gains million of new users and publishers and people just dismiss this as non-significant while we should try to build bridges. As ugly a Myspace-QQ bridge may sound, it could be a worthwhile objective...

Alright, I'm calling your bluff: link to one GeoCities page worth our time.

Re:Why mock this ? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26972011)

Re:Why mock this ? (1)

conureman (748753) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972445)

I like your geocities page and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
Dumb as a brick, I installed MS ME.

Re:Why mock this ? (2, Insightful)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972045)

    Hey, that's not fair. I saw one good Geocities site....

    Once....

    A long time ago...

    Ok, you're right. :)

Re:Why mock this ? (1)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971913)

I don't understand the people mocking this. Sure this is probably a service a la geocities with a minority of webpages worth of any interest. But some are. Internet gains million of new users and publishers and people just dismiss this as non-significant while we should try to build bridges. As ugly a Myspace-QQ bridge may sound, it could be a worthwhile objective...

At least Geocities was better than Myspace.

Re:Why mock this ? (1)

Aerynvala (1109505) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972153)

Barely. I think the only way in which Geocities wins that contest is there were no integrated forums/walls on each garish, color-clashing, animation heavy page.

Re:Why mock this ? (2, Funny)

khellendros1984 (792761) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972885)

I remember, in the days of dialup, having a really terrible Star Trek fan page. It had a 500KB animated gif up at the top, which I converted from a video file. Glad I've grown up since then. Now I think I would put a 50MB animated gif, at least!

Re:Why mock this ? (1)

Colonel Korn (1258968) | more than 5 years ago | (#26973009)

Barely. I think the only way in which Geocities wins that contest is there were no integrated forums/walls on each garish, color-clashing, animation heavy page.

Geocities had fewer instances of black text over very dark and busy background images, and slightly less music loading with the page. Also, for awhile people put quasi-content on geocities. Little freeware apps, etc. I haven't seen something useful yet on Myspace.

Re:Why mock this ? (2, Interesting)

kabocox (199019) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972113)

I don't understand the people mocking this. Sure this is probably a service a la geocities with a minority of webpages worth of any interest. But some are. Internet gains million of new users and publishers and people just dismiss this as non-significant while we should try to build bridges. As ugly a Myspace-QQ bridge may sound, it could be a worthwhile objective...

There are times that I'd like to give China a small hint on the best way to culturally take the US would be. First mandate an entire generation of Chinese students learn some English. Next give/sell that entire generation net books/internet cell phones. Now you just tell that generation to pick a few English/US sites and let the rest of the world know the real average Chinese view point on various subjects.

Utter chaos happens or no one notices?

How would slashdot change if we suddenly gained double or triple the current user base yet all active average Chinese folks?

Re:Why mock this ? (5, Funny)

Skye16 (685048) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972283)

We'd learn some sweet Mandarin phrases, get some space ships, and then live in a pseudo wild-west sci-fi sort of situation.

Just remember; I do the job, I get paid.

Re:Why mock this ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26972857)

AHAHAHA. If I were logged in and had mod points, I would mod you up for the most awesome Firefly reference ever.

Re:Why mock this ? (2, Funny)

khellendros1984 (792761) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972909)

Correction, we would all cuss and argue in Mandarin, and that's all we would use it for (except for the cool-looking Hanzi logos on our ships!) Still....I call the engine room bunk!

Re:Why mock this ? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26972525)

Why do you want to do this?
It seems you want to elevate the Chinese by introducing them to your superior culture.

An entire generation of Chinese students is ALREADY learning English.
They ALREADY have net books and cell phones.
They ALREADY have their own mirror internet with youtube and facebook clones.

And I already know the real average Chinese point of view because I asked them. They think their nation and culture is superior, just like most people from every other nation and culture.

Re:Why mock this ? (2, Insightful)

Yvanhoe (564877) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972563)

Well, in France we wondered why Americans didn't take over all French websites by learning some basic French ;-)

Seriously, what would be the point of this ? Do you think they don't have their own blogosphere, slashdot, webcomics, news sources ? All in the language that the biggest part of humanity uses ?

in other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26971697)

chinese mmo gold farmers are QQ'ing even more over disruptions in their business

Software vs. content (2, Insightful)

geekmux (1040042) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971717)

"...What exactly is this QZHTTP, and what does it all mean for the world of Web servers?"

Ah, what does it all mean? I dunno, are the Chinese proposing some sort of new web server protocol standard? Is there a new RFC out?

Seems we might be confusing web content with web server software and/or protocols. IM and blogging isn't exactly new, and neither is the idea that whatever China chooses to put online en masse would be larger than just about anything else in the world based on their population numbers alone.

Re:Software vs. content (3, Informative)

Anonymous Conrad (600139) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972089)

Ah, what does it all mean? I dunno, are the Chinese proposing some sort of new web server protocol standard? Is there a new RFC out?

They've just called their software 'QZHTTP'. Try 'telnet qzone.qq.com 80' and 'HEAD / HTTP/1.0' and you'll see for yourself:

Server: QZHTTP-2.3

I don't think anyone's suggesting there's a new protocol here.

Re:Software vs. content (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26972253)

And I see that they serve up a whole html object (not just headers) in response to a HEAD request.

That's a quality implementation of the protocol right there.

Re:Software vs. content (1)

troll8901 (1397145) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972807)

What? You give it HEAD, and it gives you everything?

You're right, needs more refining, tit-for-tat exchange, until the final climax...

Websites (5, Interesting)

iztehsux (1339985) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971729)

I really don't care what they're serving up on QQ as long as they knock it off with the repeated brute force SSH attempts every single day.

Okay... (1)

Penguinisto (415985) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971735)

...so is it a re-jiggered Apache (a'la Red Flag Linux), or what? If it's GPL, then cool... welcome to the pile.

/P

What exactly is this QZHTTP (4, Funny)

dimethylxanthine (946092) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971769)

Ships with mod_serialz, mod_sslstrip, mod_censorhip and mod_smtprelay all configured and ready for use out of the box.

LOL web admins (1)

tjstork (137384) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971797)

Let's see how all you pro free-trade computer people make out now. Boy, after decades of saying that auto-workers should make the same as their chinese counterparts, how will it feel to hear corporations saying the same about computer people?

Re:LOL web admins (1)

homer_s (799572) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971901)

how will it feel to hear corporations saying the same about computer people?

Is there any reason why someone should make more here for the same work than someone in Asia? Do you apply the same logic toward automation and the resulting cost savings?

Whether by computers or by cheap labour in China, reducing the cost of production generates wealth. If you want all the jobs to stay in the US - automotive, coffee plantations, shoe manufacturing, fruit picking, etc - how would you have time to create new technologies?

Every job has a cost - the opportunity cost. Reduce that cost and you increase wealth.

Re:LOL web admins (1)

tjstork (137384) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971987)

Is there any reason why someone should make more here for the same work than someone in Asia? Do you apply the same logic toward automation and the resulting cost savings?

Yeah, I would prefer to not live in a one room hut with 20 people. I like to have more than one TV. In fact, come to think of it, I really, really like electricity.

Re:LOL web admins (3, Insightful)

tjstork (137384) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972009)

Every job has a cost - the opportunity cost. Reduce that cost and you increase wealth.

It's whose wealth is being increased, is the question that we're asking here.

Re:LOL web admins (1)

RingDev (879105) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972271)

Is there any reason why someone should make more here for the same work than someone in Asia?

Yes.

How is the price of bread set in the United States?

How is the price of bread set in China?

Once you see the difference there you should be able to understand why it is critical for someone here to be paid differently than someone in China, and why Tariffs can be used not just for protection and isolation, but to foster a healthy global economy.

-Rick

Re:LOL web admins (1)

agrounds (227704) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972547)

Let's see how all you pro free-trade computer people make out now. Boy, after decades of saying that auto-workers should make the same as their chinese counterparts, how will it feel to hear corporations saying the same about computer people?

I guess you have been hiding under a rock for the last 6+ years or so and entirely missed the whole offshoring-to-India movement? Thousands of jobs forever lost to the WalMarts of India IT.

Frankly, if those jobs went to China from India, I'd probably laugh at this point. It would only be a change in accent from the people I have to deal with every day already. The level of service couldn't possibly go lower.

The biggest problem with QZHTTP (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26971801)

An hour later and your browser is hungry for headers again.

ripped from future headlines (1)

Anonymous Cowbell (1456535) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971813)

Millions of spam zombies added to the latest Storm botnet based on an exploit in QZHTTP, despite security patches having been available for months. Attempts to contact the owners of the exploited sites are met with silence.

The Great Scrabble Offensive of Twenty Ought-Nine! (4, Funny)

MaxwellEdison (1368785) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971819)

I knew it! China is finally making their move by grabbing up all q's. Then when we least expect it they'll slam down QUAMQUAM on a triple word score and we'll be toast! Why else would the Chinese have such a firm grasp of the Latin language?

The Q continuum will be very unhappy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26972041)

I'm not sure you want to mess with the omnipotent. You may end up a merry man.

In other news, (4, Funny)

SilentBob0727 (974090) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971961)

served by QZHTTP. This web server is used by QQ to serve millions of Qzone sites beneath the qq.com domain

A quorum of queasy, quitting queens, quaffing questionable quaaludes, quietly quote quips of quality quite exquisitely.

Please no more... (4, Insightful)

ericrost (1049312) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971973)

Stop linking to zero content, zero insight, zero analysis blogs!

oblig (3, Funny)

ianare (1132971) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972923)

You must be new here.
Don't swim against the current, but perpendicular to it.

Re:Please no more... (1)

404 Clue Not Found (763556) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972953)

Well, there goes Slashdot! It was fun while it lasted.

Be careful what ye wish for.

QQ more noob! (1)

genner (694963) | more than 5 years ago | (#26971993)

I know I know...back to the Warcraft forums.

What's the point of the second article. (1)

adonoman (624929) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972021)

What makes this all slightly troubling is that I don't know anything about QZHTTP: I presume it's not open souce, since I can't find any links to its code.

The only point that I could find from the second article (oh wait, random vapid blog post referencing the first article). What kind of logic is this? "I don't know anything about X, therefore X must be a scourge upon the earth." I personally don't know anything about Glyn Moody, so I assume he is a SCO shill trying to incite terrorism.

Logic (1)

argent (18001) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972487)

What kind of logic is this? "I don't know anything about X, therefore X must be a scourge upon the earth."

Well, it's not the logic in the article you're referencing, so my guess is that it's reductio ad absurdum.

Getting back to the logic in the article itself... if it was open source, then he would likely have been able to find it by searching the web. He tried to find links to it, failed, so it's a reasonable assumption that it's not open source. He obviously doesn't like the idea that it's proprietary. Perhaps you have a different opinion there. Which is also reasonable. In any case I don't see anything wrong with the logic.

Netcraft confirms it (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972177)

Mao is dead!

the boring days are over (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26972493)

With google translate we can now access 20 millions new webpages filled with political free content.just a little bit of adware, and blurry pictures :)

I, for one, am thrilled! (2, Insightful)

beadfulthings (975812) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972579)

It's a whole new arena from which the Chinese hackers can continue to launch their lame--but oh, so annoying--port scans and root login attempts. I'm jaded enough to be willing to bet money that the security will be up to the usual high Chinese standards--absent unless they decide to block something. Every day I have the same struggle: Bad Self says, "Just block the whole goddamned country." Good Self says, "Shame on you." One of these days, Bad Self is going to win.

(Speaking of lame login attempts, the firewall just blocked the first one ever from Rwanda. Good Self is telling me that I should be encouraged that they actually have an Internet there...)

Re:I, for one, am thrilled! (1)

Ash-Fox (726320) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972975)

I agree with badself. I endorse it.

Re:I, for one, am thrilled! (1)

n0dna (939092) | more than 5 years ago | (#26973075)

You have to love the kits they use too... I saw a "Sendmail WIZ" exploit attempt a couple months ago. :)

Apache & Microsoft both improved (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26972741)

Really this is only impacting the overall market share percentage by incorporating previously unreported data. It's not like a giant portion of servers suddenly switched over to qq.com

Frightening? (1)

dmomo (256005) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972749)

I don't get why the article is being sensationalist about this. Is it simply a re-configured Apache? Is it a new closed source platform? I just don't know. It's curious, yes, but hardly frightening.

Competition *IS* good right?

Maybe I'm missing something like... Is the server itself doing anything odd other than "being mysterious"?

Re:Frightening? (1)

InvisibleClergy (1430277) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972983)

I think it is that there are so many, so fast.

Less QQ... (1)

CompMD (522020) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972831)

Actually, wait. Considering this is China, I'll accept QQ instead of pewpew.

Old ICQ service... (1)

InvisibleClergy (1430277) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972907)

I bet this is like the old ICQ service where you could run a shitty web server from your computer. Even though I wasn't even in high school at the time, it seemed like a huge security flaw. Extra points to the first hacker to exploit the flaws in this system to make a new botnet!

fortune cookie (1)

ianare (1132971) | more than 5 years ago | (#26972965)

"learn Chinese"

Apache can do this (1)

AndyFewt (694753) | more than 5 years ago | (#26973139)

I've seen many sites change the headers/version replies for various reasons. Hell, anyone using mod security for Apache will default to a different version if they use the community ruleset.One website I know will respond with:
Server: Apache/2.2.0 - However, I know for a fact it is running 2.2.11

That can easily be changed in the mod security ruleset to be anything. Like this: Server: Myfakehttpdtakesovertheworld/1.9

I'd bet it is just apache.
Load More Comments
Slashdot Login

Need an Account?

Forgot your password?

Submission Text Formatting Tips

We support a small subset of HTML, namely these tags:

  • b
  • i
  • p
  • br
  • a
  • ol
  • ul
  • li
  • dl
  • dt
  • dd
  • em
  • strong
  • tt
  • blockquote
  • div
  • quote
  • ecode

"ecode" can be used for code snippets, for example:

<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>