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HAHAHAHAHA (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987175)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... um.. .. hahahahaha... its just not fair though...

What's the purpose... (1, Insightful)

rob1980 (941751) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987187)

Of identifying your sexual orientation in your profile anyway? Leave that for your Facebook/Myspace profiles or your blog, or maybe even shut up about your sexual orientation like all of us straight people do about ours. Just a thought anyway.

Mod parent up (1, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987307)

Exactly. It sounds to me like she wanted to get banned. I'm against banning people for their sexual orientation, race, religion, etc. But if you're some activist who has set out to TRY and piss people off with the purpose of getting banned, that's another story. Getting banned for putting "Allah is great! Christians and Jews are the devil!" in your profile is NOT the same as getting banned for "being a Muslim."

Re:Mod parent up (5, Insightful)

Rei (128717) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987745)

So, if she were to write in her profile that she had a husband, that'd be okay?
And if she were to write in her profile that she had a wife, that'd not be okay?

This is what's so wrong with people just saying "shut up about your sexual orientation". That's basically saying "Unlike everyone around you, you need to hide pretty much your entire life from everyone else." The fact that you see "I am gay" as equivalent to writing "Christians and Jews are the devil!" is incredibly offensive on so many levels.

Re:Mod parent up (-1, Redundant)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987981)

Why would anyone write about their husband/wife, sexual orientation, race, religion, or their favorite breed of dog in a GAMER PROFILE?!?!? It's a gamer profile, not your fucking personal blog.

Re:What's the purpose... (1, Insightful)

Smidge207 (1278042) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987313)

So if identify myself as a Christian and a Hindu finds that offensive I can be banned? Or if I choose the username 'Bevets' I can haz bannination from Fark plz k thnx bai.

=Smidge=

Re:What's the purpose... (3, Funny)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987349)

What's the purpose... Of identifying your sexual orientation in your profile anyway? Does the phrase "hooking up" mean anything to you? If I can't use an online service for the purpose of hooking up with members of the appropriate sex, then what good is it? Sure, you want to run a "family oriented" business -- but gays and lesbians have families too! M$ needs to apply the exact same standards to everyone, regardless of their sexual orientation. P.S. Next time maybe she should try identifying herself as Bi?

Re:What's the purpose... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987375)

<duh> For the same reason you put anything in your profile. So you can find people with similar interests to play with. </duh>

Re:What's the purpose... (-1, Troll)

Kral_Blbec (1201285) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987387)

Agreed. She claims to have been harrassed so much and people following her to new servers just to insult her. Why announce it to begin with? If you know something is going to be a problem and there is no benifit to it, then go out of your way to do it?

Seems to me that more and more gays/lesbians are looking to start fights just because they can play the discrimination trump card. Heck, not just gays/lesbians but a lot of minorities play that game.

Re:What's the purpose... (5, Insightful)

Walkingshark (711886) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987525)

Why should announcing your sexual orientation start a fight? The bad behavior is on the part of people who feel that it is ok to persecute someone for talking about their sexual orientation.

Re:What's the purpose... (0, Flamebait)

Racemaniac (1099281) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987861)

it shouldn't, but it will. there will always be intolerant idiots, and what do you hope to prove by trying to get into a fight with them?

even if 99% of the people don't have a problem with it, 1 in 100 is still a lot of people online you're picking a fight with. why not just shut up about it, and not provoke those people?

and who is at fault? the ones causing all the trouble over it? or the one shoving it in their face while they'd rather just not know? imo both are just as wrong

Re:What's the purpose... (4, Insightful)

oldspewey (1303305) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987667)

Why announce it to begin with? ... gays/lesbians are looking to start fights ... a lot of minorities play that game.

As others have pointed out, it has nothing to do with starting fights and everything to do with expressing what is an integral part of your personal identity and choosing what kinds of online relationships you want to pursue.

In a similar vein, I'm curious what "game" it is that you feel minorities are playing? The "game" where they don't try to hide their identity and culture? The "game" where they expect to be treated fairly and equally with others in their workplace and community?

Re:What's the purpose... (5, Insightful)

Rei (128717) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987835)

When Microsoft bans, say, people from writing "I am black" in their profile because it might start a fight with skinheads or "I am an evolutionary biologist" because it might start a fight with creationists is the day I'll consider this position toward gays and lesbians even remotely fair.

Re:What's the purpose... (1)

godrik (1287354) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987693)

Would you be banned if you write your married ?
Probably not, but it means that you are staight or bi. Freedom of speech is attacked there. I do not see saying that she's lesbian any more offensive that saying she like vanilla ice or hollywood movies.

Re:What's the purpose... (3, Funny)

easyTree (1042254) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987819)

I do not see saying that she's lesbian any more offensive that saying she like vanilla ice or hollywood movies.

That's so not a realistic comparison. When's the last time you recall anything good coming out of hollywood?

Re:What's the purpose... (2, Insightful)

bennomatic (691188) | more than 5 years ago | (#26988021)

Yay! Good job blaming the victim!! Maybe they should make it so that if anyone identifies themselves as being anything but straight, male, white and christian they can be banned!

There are two problems here. One is the harassment from idiots, and MS should indeed take a strong stance on that behavior. The other is that instead of doing what they should and punishing those who are doing the harassment, they are banning the people who are being harassed.

It's pretty clear what the reasoning is: their target market is maladjusted tweens, teens, and twenty-somethings. If they banned all of the people who were acting out, they'd lose a lot more money than if they ban the people who the jerks are going after.

If they don't want people to post anything personal in their profiles, they should eliminate the profiles. If they don't want people to have the letters 'G-A-Y' in their names, they should auto-create names when people create accounts. This sort of activity is a travesty, and blaming the victim is, to put it mildly, is un-evolved thinking.

Re:What's the purpose... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987489)

Linux (pronounced "EYE-getno-ass") is a Unix-like computer operating system family which includes system utilities and libraries from the GNU Project is sometimes referred to as GNU/Linux.

Linux also does not actually work, and it never has. There is no kernel present. It is primarily a harmless outlet for repressed males that have never seen a vagina to convince themselves they're 1337 while banging away at toy software that doesn't actually do anything.

Go ahead Linux fags, waste your mod points on me.

Re:What's the purpose... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987519)

The purpose is to find other gamer lesbians (a pretty small subculture) to hang out with, even if you aren't necessarily looking to hook up.

Why does anyone put anything in their profile? To find people with similar interests and backgrounds. It's not true of all lesbians, of course, but a lot of lesbians have things in common that they might not with non-lesbians and especially not with your typical xbox live player.

Re:What's the purpose... (5, Funny)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987673)

...a lot of lesbians have things in common that they might not with... your typical xbox live player. Like a vagina, for instance.

Re:What's the purpose... (5, Insightful)

pluther (647209) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987651)

...shut up about your sexual orientation like all of us straight people do...

Yes, it's a good thing you don't go around mentioning your sexual orientation in public posts...

Why have profiles at all? (4, Insightful)

spun (1352) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987689)

Tell me the purpose of having a profile, and I will tell you the purpose of putting "I like [whatever]" in that profile. But for gays and lesbians, the issue is slightly different. 'Coming out' [wikipedia.org] is an important part of the process of self discovery and self acceptance for such people. Yes, many go through a phase where they may be a little strident about it, but that is completely natural in a society with so much homophobia. If allowed to progress through the 'angry gay' stage, most will reach a stage where being gay is just another facet of their identity.

Re:What's the purpose... (4, Insightful)

Joe the Lesser (533425) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987753)

And please stop with the whole gender thing. I don't care if you're a male.

And just shut up about what city you live in!

Re:What's the purpose... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987995)

Straight people do not shut up about their sexual orientation.

"I just want to meet a nice guy."
"She's just my type."
"Damn she's hot."
etc. etc.

Just because they don't go saying "I'm straight" doesn't mean they don't freaking broadcast the fact on all channels.

They don't have to say they are straight directly, because they can hint it without being noticed. Gay people don't have that luxury. If she had put in "I'm just looking for a nice girl." and somehow indicated her gender, it probably would have still pissed off some homophobic moderator.

Sounds like (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987189)

They are going to loose allot of members. Xbox is for FAGS!

Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987199)

That is so gay.

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987257)

you beat me to it

Fair is fair (5, Insightful)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987223)

As long as you get banned from Xbox live for identifying yourself as straight too, I don't see a problem with this...

Re:Fair is fair (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987359)

unfortunately sexual preference is not a protected class

Re:Fair is fair (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987429)

Actually it depends on in what capacity you are referring to "protected class".

Re:Fair is fair (5, Insightful)

easyTree (1042254) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987579)

Look. Here's how it is. Microsoft make it REALLY easy to join XBOX Live but virtually impossible to leave. This is just the most convenient way to leave.

It's like the way they charge to change your gamertag but if you ask several ppl to 'complain' that your gamertag is offensive, microsoft 'force' you to change it.

It's just ppl working around MBA-led bullshit.

Re:Fair is fair (1)

jythie (914043) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987815)

I've heard of people getting harrassed or banned for even saying things like 'BBL - gotta meet my gf for dinner'. So the type of casual statement that strait players would take for granted can be a minefield for GBLT ones.

Re:Fair is fair (1, Redundant)

Racemaniac (1099281) | more than 5 years ago | (#26988003)

how about you just don't feed the trolls with your sexual orientation they got a problem with, and you'll have no problems?

yes, you shouldn't get into a fight over it. but you know you will. there are always people who are against it.

i find it reasonable to ask of players not to provoke others. even though it might be something they shouldn't be provoked by.

xbox live has terrible terms of service (5, Interesting)

MyDixieWrecked (548719) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987241)

My name is "Spike"

xboxlive won't let me use that name in the "real name" field of my xboxlive profile. It says that it's a banned word.

Why could that be? I think it might be because it contains 'spik,' but even that seems ridiculous.

*shrug*

Re:xbox live has terrible terms of service (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987355)

My guess is that they are considering 'Spike' to be a nickname or handle, not a real name.

The bastards.

Re:xbox live has terrible terms of service (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987503)

Maybe it's the "pike" which is an older variant on "piker" (or the Romani "pikey") which is typically used in England as an derogatory term for "vagrant, tramp, or gypsy"

The way it should be (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987245)

The sooner we stop accepting these people as normal and condemn them for the unnatural disgusting animals that they are the better

Re:The way it should be (2, Insightful)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987487)

I agree, homophobes definitely are not normal and should be condemned! Calling them "unnatural disgusting animals" does seem a bit extreme, however, even if all humans can technically be considered animals.

Their Service (1)

Killer Orca (1373645) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987265)

Their rules, if they think others find it offensive then they can suspend your account. However, if it is not explicitly defined in the ToS that sexual orientation in a bio is offensive then she could try and get reimbursed for the account. That is a loooong-shot though.

Microsoft is gay (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987295)

but do they ban themselves?

Get a PC (0, Offtopic)

Dan667 (564390) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987297)

Consoles are just a gateway into PC gaming anyway. All the more reason to get a PC sooner than later if console manufacturers are going to also treat you like this.

Re:Get a PC (0, Flamebait)

tcc3 (958644) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987461)

Yes you too can play a small fraction of available games. There's also the "constant hardware upgrade" metagame. wooo!

Each game platform has its place, they are not substitutes for each other.

Re:Get a PC (5, Informative)

Chabo (880571) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987647)

Can we stop this misinformation? Most gamers do not buy a new video card every 4 days.

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey [steampowered.com]

Despite RAM prices, over 35% of Steam gamers have less than 2GB of RAM. About the same number are still running single-core CPUs. Just under half don't have a DX10-capable GPU, meaning their GPU is well over a year old. And that's with a generation of graphics hardware that gives extremely good value for money.

Re:Get a PC (1)

tcc3 (958644) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987923)

This is no more misinformation than "Consoles are just PC gaming lite and are for kids and retarded monkeys"

Like I said - they each have their place, and each has their drawback.

Because Gay People Make You Gay (5, Insightful)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987321)

... because they didn't want to see that crap or their kids to see that crap.

Whew, I couldn't agree more! Because it's been scientifically shown that exposures to gay people is what causes one to be gay. But why stop at targeting gays on the XBox? Did you know that your child might be befriending another kid in grade school and your child's friend may be gay and not yet know it? The only safe way out of this is to remove your kid from school--did you know that nearly 100% of homosexuals have gone through school? A frightening figure! You better find a conservative Christian school that teaches your child intolerance and how to properly ostracize and judge other people. That's the only way you can provide for them a pure and clean life.

And if the rest of us are lucky, we'll never have to interact with your kid.

This is not helping the already low low stereotype I have adopted of the users of XBox's online service.

Re:Because Gay People Make You Gay (0, Troll)

ljaszcza (741803) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987715)

Huh? What is the point of that rant? Microsoft owns XBox and they have the right to limit discussions that don't pertain to games. That's not targeting gays, that's running a business. If someone throws out details of their heterosexual sex life they should be banned likewise. What's the crap about Christianity besides? How does that tie into Microsoft and Xbox? Troll.

Re:Because Gay People Make You Gay (4, Insightful)

Kell Bengal (711123) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987921)

they have the right to limit discussions that don't pertain to games

And I insist that they do! How dare anyone talk about anything but games. It's almost as if they think they're there to socialise or have a good time.

Re:Because Gay People Make You Gay (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987809)

It's all about making others accept behavior they find distasteful.

Re:Because Gay People Make You Gay (5, Interesting)

jythie (914043) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987899)

The big thing such parents worry about is that their children are exposed to gays that are not horrible monsters and thus the kids start seeing them as regular people... which the parents are trying very hard to prevent. These parents do not want to risk their kids seeing gays as people.. they want to see them unquestioningly as sick pedophiles that are destroying society, inhuman evil monsters that can not be related to.
 
THAT is why they don't want their kids exposed to gays in enviorments like this where they might actually *gasp* get along with them.

I was under the assumption (5, Funny)

Haoie (1277294) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987323)

That identifying yourself as 'lesbian' online is secret code for "I'm a straight guy looking for girl love. Pew pew."

Sue (2, Funny)

moniker127 (1290002) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987329)

One word:
Sue.

Re:Sue (2, Interesting)

vell0cet (1055494) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987485)

That's pretty sad that you think that's the solution. In fact, it's probably because everyone's knee jerk reaction is "sue" that this kind of crap happens. Why else would they have this kind of policy unless they were trying to prevent being sued by someone who's "offended" that their child was exposed to a lesbian?

Re:Sue (1)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987723)

Because someone who is "offended" that their child was exposed to a lesbian has no real grounds for a lawsuit, and would likely lose. There's this whole "first amendment" thing, as well as the "experience may change during online gameplay" thing. If Microsoft was really concerned about that, why haven't they started banning people for teabagging?

Someone who is being banned in this form of discrimination certainly would seem to have a legitimate complaint. And, what would you suggest? They've already taken it to the press, I suppose Microsoft has some time to respond...

Re:Sue (1, Insightful)

mastershake82 (948396) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987889)

The first constitution does not apply to services provided by a company. This woman isn't going to jail, she's been removed from a service provided by a company.

Microsoft isn't really concerned. They aren't going to lose any significant number of customers over this. There isn't going to be a backlash. Nobody is gonna care.

It's just some person wanting express themselves everywhere and realizing that they can't win every battle. If more GLBT would learn this lesson they would probably be perceived better by the general public.

Re:Sue (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987555)

A suit seeking what sort of damages?

The most they could hope to recover would be any monetary amount of time remained on their account. Even in that case, I think the ToS pretty much covers that and since you explicitly agree to those conditions when you sign up for the service, I think she's out of luck.

The worst I see happening for this is for GLBT activists calling for a boycott, which probably won't do anything, and maybe Logo pulling it's video content from the marketplace.

MS is pretty strict about what can be seen in someone's profile outside of a game, since the Dashboard and profile areas can be viewed by all and don't have ESRB oversight, and this is obviously something that doesn't belong in somebodies bio on a gaming service.

important details (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987357)

Uhm, the article fails to report critical details. Any word on if she's a hot lesbian?

I'm skeptical (4, Insightful)

religious freak (1005821) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987361)

This blog post does nothing but reference itself. There are no formal statements from MS and no proof of any kind given. Show me the proof, then I'll side with you. New tag: proveit

Also, I don't hang my hat on being straight - do you really need to point out that you're gay in your xbox profile? I mean... really? I don't think you should be banned for doing it, but I think it's a little odd.

Re:I'm skeptical (2, Informative)

rob1980 (941751) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987495)

That's what the Consumerist does, they shame companies into a response. I suspect before long we'll hear an update on the matter.

Re:I'm skeptical (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987871)

Would *you* want to play online hockey against a lesbian? It's a fair warning, if you ask me.

What language do they speak in Lesbia? (2, Funny)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987371)

Maybe they aren't allowed to operate there for legal reasons.

Disclaimer: I don't even know where Lesbia is (but if you haven't heard of it it's probably Europe, right?) and I've never met anyone from there!

Re:What language do they speak in Lesbia? (1)

wjh31 (1372867) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987439)

try lesbos, a greek island where the name actually came from

Re:What language do they speak in Lesbia? (1)

Kalriath (849904) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987543)

Actually, the real country is Lesbos Island [wikipedia.org] - it's Greek. It actually exists, the cultural name for the people is Lesbians, and no they don't like gay females using the word.

Re:What language do they speak in Lesbia? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987609)

Actually the origin of the term lesbian is from the female inhabitants of the Mediterranean island of Lesbos, made famous in Greek mythology.

Re:What language do they speak in Lesbia? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987725)

It is Lesbos. They speak Greek. For more information see wikipedia.

Re:What language do they speak in Lesbia? (2, Insightful)

SCPRedMage (838040) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987729)

I, too, am quite interested in their native tongue...

Re:What language do they speak in Lesbia? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987831)

I, too, am quite interested in their native tongue...

Labian?

Re:What language do they speak in Lesbia? (1)

psychobabble (156967) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987777)

Catullus: Caeli, Lesbia nostra, Lesbia illa.
illa Lesbia:
Caelius, our Lesbia, that Lesbia,
that selfsame Lesbia.

Methinks she walked in beauty.
C

Didn't Blizzard disban... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987385)

all gay guilds or gay guilds that advertised themselves as gay awhile back? I think they got rid of the policy after a media spotlight was shown on it. Perhaps the same will happen here.

Easy way to kill subscription? (1)

x78 (1099371) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987405)

Hmm that seems like a plan to get my friends xbl cancled,
I had the stupidity to use my debit card details to buy a $5.00 game for a friend and now my account is being charged per month for xbox live.
Calling them up to remove your details is usless unless you know the gamertag and address of the xbl account holder.
It's a pity I don't know the username and password else I'd be logging in parading my gay rights.. sigh.
On topic this seems utterly stupid, where is the need to censor ones sexual preference, is this meant to protect younglings from knowing that some people like the same sex?!
What is the world coming too!

She's lucky (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987417)

I wish a major corporation would hand me a lawsuit like this...

light on details, heavy on suspicion (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987437)

TFA doesn't actually provide much in the way of hard details - no username, no name of the person spoken to at MS, no name of a supervisor spoken to (and no appearance of speaking to a supervisor), no investigation of XBox Live rules/EULA, and no interview with Microsoft.

Looks like FUD, until someone does a proper investigation.

Why does it matter? (0)

nEoN nOoDlE (27594) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987479)

XBox Live isn't a civil rights arena. Why should I know or care if anyone on XBL is gay or straight or black or white or republican or democrat or christian or atheist? Just play the game and leave politics and your personal life out of it.

More likely.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987523)

MS is generalizing the word "fag."

This is similar to how saying "jew" can get you banned from places simply because people have magically turned it into a dirty no-no word.

It's stuff like this (overzealous self-rightousism) that keeps me away from any console and its associated multiplayer system.

What's a Lesbian LED? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987535)

Did anyone else have trouble reverse engineering the grammar in the title?

Huh...odd from Microsoft (5, Interesting)

sean_nestor (781844) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987539)

This is unusual, since Microsoft is apparently considered one of the most gay friendly employers in the US [microsoft.com].

From the site:

It was one of the first companies in the world to offer employee benefits to same-sex domestic partners and to include sexual orientation in its corporate nondiscrimination policy. Since 1989, Microsoft has supported and sponsored gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender issues at Microsoft. In 1993 an organized employee resource groupâ"Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Employees at Microsoft (GLEAM)â"was launched. GLEAM now has more than 700 members.

The group even has it's own Wikipedia entry [wikipedia.org] (for what that's worth).

Implying spouse? (2, Insightful)

HockeyPuck (141947) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987581)

Let's say your XBOX live name was "Steve1234" could you get banned for mentioning the following phrase, "My husband is logging on right now, his mage would help us out..."?

To people who wonder why she ID'ed as gay (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987589)

duh, she didn't want to be hit on incessantly.

Majority Rules (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987617)

Homosexual acts is sin plain and simple. Some people choose to not think so; believe that it is a perfectly fine lifestyle.

Also, some people think its perfectly OK to have sexual relations with children.

Would you be mad if xbox banned the accounts of people who openly claimed to be pedophile? I mean, its a life choice, right? And although it's illegal in most places now, won't the masses eventually wake up and realize its not a bad thing?

Homosexuality offends most people, just like pedophiles offend most people.

Why advertise? Play your xbox and don't bother broadcasting your sinful lifestyle.

So what? (0)

litewoheat (179018) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987857)

Why is it so important for this person to advertise, in a gaming context, that they are gay / lesbian? What does that that have to do with anything? These people give every other gay man or woman a bad name. Homosexuality makes some people uncomfortable and if there's no really good reason, why persist? There is no good reason what so ever to make it a point to let people know who you like to have sex with on XBox Live. BTW. I'm gay so don't go calling me a homophobe.

Halo players identify two ways: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#26987869)

You're either a "nigger" or a "bitch". Your fellow players will determine which, and announce it, after they kill you...

Obviosuly ridiculous (1)

lbalbalba (526209) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987893)

Obviously, it is ridiculous that once's sexual preference has anything to do with being allowed to play video games on any given environment. Hopefully this statement from Microsoft will see a sharp drop in sales of the XBOX in favor of other consoles, but I fear that Microsoft will simply get away with this....

Call me crazy... (4, Insightful)

BaronHethorSamedi (970820) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987965)

...but I've been on XBox live. The vast (and I mean vast) majority of references to homosexuality in that community are slurs. Really, really ugly ones.

So we have a blanket policy saying, no mentioning of sexual orientation in your profile or gamertag. Period. Because, while it's possible that such a mention in a gamertag/profile is a perfectly true, totally non-offensive statement about an individual's self-identified sexual orientation, the odds more strongly favor it being a nasty, hateful comment (or at best, a tasteless one).

If a given behavior has a 1% chance of being legitimate, and a 99% chance of being a TOS violation, doesn't a ban make sense? I'm not sure I'm willing to blame Microsoft for not wanting to go through thousands upon thousands of gamer profiles for approval on a case-by-case basis.

And yeah, why do you feel it's important to proclaim your sexual orientation on XBox live anyway?

Another issue with Live's automated ban system... (4, Insightful)

Doug52392 (1094585) | more than 5 years ago | (#26987987)

Your playing a video game online with a group of pre-pubescent kids and teenagers who are granted nearly full anonymity without any fear of punishment, what did you expect?

Now, due to the vague explanation of what happened given in the article linked in the story, I'm going to make some assumptions here. I would assume that:
* Some kids on Xbox Live noticed that the gamer identified herself as lesbian.
* Due to ignorance, or just for the "lulz", kids decide to file fake complaints against the gamertag in question to get the account banned.
* Microsoft's fully-automated complaint system receives numerous reports from many people about the gamertag in question, and automatically bans the account.

This just goes to show what a failure Microsoft's disciplinary system is. Microsoft made these game consoles and FREE headsets available to kids and teenagers, as well as adults. So, with that many people using an online service, it's fairly obvious that SOMEONE will abuse the system, break rules, etc.

And yet, Microsoft decides to not only use a centralized network infrastructure for Xbox Live, rather than the infrastructure used by most online PC games, but they even made the disciplinary system fully automated. No human involvement. No one checks the validity of reports. No one is in the games to ban abusers. No way of even verifying weather or not a ban was justified or not when someone calls Microsoft's Tech Support. Such an easy thing to abuse.

By contrast, nearly all servers on PC games are administered properly. There's at least one admin on, admins ban the hackers, cheaters, racist/homophobic people, and maintain their server's rules. Nothing's automated. There's always human involvement.

I don't think Microsoft intentionally banned this person or refused to re-activate the account because the user is lesbian. Live's servers received compliments from a bunch of people, automated system bans the account, with no way of telling weather or not the compliments were legitimate or created fraudulently.

Microsoft seems to be ignoring the lesson here: You can't trust machines to babysit children.

Is it just me? (2, Interesting)

shellster_dude (1261444) | more than 5 years ago | (#26988011)

The few times that I have played anything on Xbox Live account, the chat is always over run with 13 year-olds, obscenities, and homo-erotic remarks.

Besides, who else thinks, it is hot, that there are lesbian girls actually playing video games? Xbox you just lost my vote, by removing possibly the one female online player.
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