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Boxee Hack Restores Hulu Support (Sort Of)

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the black-marker-on-the-edge dept.

Media 79

DeviceGuru writes "Boxee has restored support for Hulu, along with several other enhancements, to its free media center platform for PCs and Macs. The modification, a hack to Boxee's RSS feed functionality, involves having Boxee users enable the support themselves by cutting/pasting URLs from Hulu's RSS feed page into their account on Boxee's website. It works, but one can't help wondering how it's really different from Boxee's original — superior — Hulu support. Oh, the games media companies play!"

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This is great... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27094607)

Until the networks use this as an excuse to force Hulu to shut down its RSS feeds.

Re:This is great... (4, Insightful)

Chyeld (713439) | more than 5 years ago | (#27097645)

Really, Hulu was doomed from the start. They are competing against their owners, never a situation which resolves with a happy ending.

Hulu is owned by FOX and NBC, it gets it's content from the big networks, the only reason any of them are willing to join this venture is because they see Hulu as the way to capture that last 'small' group of people who watch TV on their computer rather than at a 'TV'.

They don't want Hulu to be competing directly with themselves on a TV, because the ad revenue they can get from getting your ass in a couch and watching TV vs. you watching it via Hulu is orders of magnitude greater. And unfortunately, that's not a tech thing, that's a "sponsers aren't willing to pay" thing.

What these folk (though I think Hulu understands it perfectly) don't get is that the division line between TV and PC is growing fainter and dimmer every day and eventually, the distinction is going to be meaningless.

The networks, more than likely, are going to keep turning the screws on Hulu. They'll be trying to ensure it can only be watched 'from a computer' rather than 'from a TV'. And each time they do, the more successful they are, the more irrevelant Hulu will become.

Hulu can't escape from this, not while Hulu is owned and run by the networks, because there is no incentive for them to allow Hulu to be anything more and every incentive to keep it from being anything more.

If I were a Hulu employee, I might not be jumping ship, but I certainly would not be sitting back toasting myself over the nice secure job I had.

Re:This is great... (1)

beguyld (732494) | more than 5 years ago | (#27103349)

They don't want Hulu to be competing directly with themselves on a TV, because the ad revenue they can get from getting your ass in a couch and watching TV vs. you watching it via Hulu is orders of magnitude greater. And unfortunately, that's not a tech thing, that's a "sponsers aren't willing to pay" thing.

Obviously you have never watched shows on Hulu, which often have even more commercials than on TV!

Yes, there are a few sponsored movies or shows with only one commercial at the start, but many have numerous commercials, which seem to get more and more frequent as the show gets closer to the end. I guess they figure they have you captive wanting to see how it ends, so they turn the screws. It's so bad it actually drives me _away_ from Hulu!

Re:This is great... (1)

Chyeld (713439) | more than 5 years ago | (#27107417)

Ever look up how much 30 second spot during the Superbowl costs? The determining factor in ad revenue isn't "how many ads" it's "how valuable is the slot". Ad companies are willing to pay far more for the traditional Nielsen rated block of time on broadcast/cable TV then they are for an 'unproven' block of time on Hulu/"Teh Internets".

If the ratio were one to one, then Hulu wouldn't have any issues and the networks would be pushing it on everyone. After all, traditional TV also has the problem of FCC regulation, the requirement for local stations to carry your programming, etc. and etc.

Re:This is great... (1)

ottothecow (600101) | more than 5 years ago | (#27107793)

More commercials?

It has always looked to me like hulu inserts one 30-second commercial in whenever there is a natural commercial break (where a network station would fit several commercials to make up the 8 minute total in every hour-long show).

The fact that there are more and more commercials near the end is something you notice because hulu tells you when the commercials are ahead of time. Networks always do this with shows since they want to hook you on the show before switching to a commercial which might send you to another network. By the end of the show, you are invested in that network's content and you won't jump ship despite the increased commercial frequency since you want to know what happens

It is actually kind of nice to have them there. When you torrent your TV, you get a lot of awkward transitions where there should have been a commercial. The most common one is a dramatic moment that is set up before commercial and resolved immediately afterwards from the same set of camera angles (often they even repeat the last line of dialog after the commercial). With hulu you don't have this since they insert a 30 second pause...

And to all of you commercial haters: I don't see you stepping up to the plate to provide other funding. Commercials pay for the show and *maybe* itunes-style purchases of episodes help. Don't tell me "I'll buy the season on DVD when its done"...that will not pay for shows to be made, only provide additional revenue and increase the chance that the show continues. No sane company is going to produce a whole season of a show with no revenue and then hope that people like it and they can sell DVDs--the advertisers are what keeps the whole thing afloat.

Good will? (5, Insightful)

qoncept (599709) | more than 5 years ago | (#27094647)

The Boxee guys claimed they were removing Hulu support in an act of good will toward Hulu (I'd guess hoping to maintain good relations with a content provider they wanted to get back). Now they're completely negating the good-will-effect by helping users work around it while still making it more of a pain for their users. Genius.

Re:Good will? (2, Insightful)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 5 years ago | (#27095063)

Well, maybe they decided that any goodwill received would just be wasted at this point and there would be no hope in getting Hulu back without bending over. Just a complete guess though given the circumstances I know.

Re:Good will? (3, Informative)

Chyeld (713439) | more than 5 years ago | (#27095143)

They aren't adding it back so much as pointing out that their existing feature now supports Hulu without needing a dedicated plugin.

Thus, if Hulu's "partners" still have a problem with it, they need to kill RSS feeds rather than play games trying to block apps.

Re:Good will? (3, Informative)

qoncept (599709) | more than 5 years ago | (#27095265)

They weren't playing games. They said "we want this to stop going on."
Hulu went to Boxee and said "They want this to stop going on,"
Boxee said "ok," and removed the good plugin.
Boxee told you a crappier way you could do it.

They made their software crappier and put on a front in looking like they were cooperating while they really weren't.

Re:Good will? (3, Insightful)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 5 years ago | (#27095725)

They said we want this plugin gone, boxee agreed and never fixed the plugin when hulu broke it. Then the boxee folks said "go ahead and just use the rss feed that works too.".

Slightly different.

Re:Good will? (5, Insightful)

Chyeld (713439) | more than 5 years ago | (#27095759)

It was 'reasonable' for Hulu to ask Boxee to remove a feature that tied solely into Hulu.

It is not reasonable for Hulu to ask Boxee to remove a feature that ties into a number of services and just happens to work with a service that Hulu provides.

Expecting Boxee not to point out how to do it, given it hardly even an open secret at this point, is absurd.

If Hulu's partners don't want people watching their content from outside of the website, why do they provide an RSS feed? Either they are ignorant or they are playing games.

To be honest, given the situation, I don't know which. But it's definately one of the two.

Re:Good will? (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 5 years ago | (#27096765)

What are the Terms of Service? Even with a public RSS feed, the Terms of Service may not allow certain types of access.

Re:Good will? (1)

Sparr0 (451780) | more than 5 years ago | (#27096937)

There is no such thing as "certain types of access". Every single application that pulls Hulu videos using the RSS feed does it the exact same way. The same request, using the same protocol, sent to the same server.

Re:Good will? (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 5 years ago | (#27098315)

Sure there is, there's interactive access, and non-interactive access. The fact that the underlying mechanism is the same is irrelevant.

Re:Good will? (1)

Sparr0 (451780) | more than 5 years ago | (#27098693)

They are both equally interactive. You open your RSS reader (which could be firefox, google reader, or any number of other pieces of software) and click a video entry to watch it. I open my RSS reader (which is the hulu gui) and click a video entry to watch it.

Re:Good will? (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 5 years ago | (#27099029)

They are both equally interactive

Agreed. That statement was merely to provide a counter example to your statement that "There is no such thing as 'certain types of access'." If people can ban 'wget' via their TOS, they can certainly ban Boxee.

Re:Good will? (3, Insightful)

russotto (537200) | more than 5 years ago | (#27098547)

What are the Terms of Service? Even with a public RSS feed, the Terms of Service may not allow certain types of access.

Putting such Terms of Service on a public RSS feed is like putting a message on a billboard indicating Toyota drivers aren't permitted to read it.

Terms of Service? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27101083)

What are the Terms of Service? Even with a public RSS feed, the Terms of Service may not allow certain types of access.

Do you need to sign up for an account with Hulu to use it? I don't live in the US so I don't know, but I was under the impression you didn't. If you don't need an account, they can't make you agree to terms of service, then how can they enforce them?

Re:Terms of Service? (1)

ion.simon.c (1183967) | more than 5 years ago | (#27102539)

If you don't need an account, they can't make you agree to terms of service, then how can they enforce them?

By buying off a couple of well-placed judges.

Re:Good will? (1)

mrraven (129238) | more than 5 years ago | (#27097183)

Yeah how dare they use a publicly availible RSS feed, what is this world coming to? The nerve!

SIGH, just when you think corporate apologists couldn't get any more disingenuous they somehow find a way. :(

Re:Good will? (1)

funkatron (912521) | more than 5 years ago | (#27097699)

Hulu look more incompetent every day. First they decided to break international distribution, now they've got this mess with Boxee. How hard is it to provide working content and leave everything else alone?

Re:Good will? (3, Insightful)

Chyeld (713439) | more than 5 years ago | (#27097803)

I don't think "Hulu" is incompetent, I think they have to answer to their owners, who have apparently rethought (or just now realized it wasn't) what they want it to be.

Re:Good will? (1)

Fishbulb (32296) | more than 5 years ago | (#27106037)

I think Hulu is incompetent for tying its existence so closely to that of a bunch of dinosaurs. :)

Re:Good will? (1)

Firehed (942385) | more than 5 years ago | (#27097853)

If they kill RSS, then shows stop showing up in my Google Reader and I go back to TBP.

They're welcome to do so - TBP tends to have the shows online an hour of two earlier, which is a good thing for me (though by the time most shows are finished downloading off a torrent, they're on Hulu anyways). If their corporate parters are so stupid as to kill off the only way they'll make money off me, that's their problem.

I don't mind the 5-to-30 second ads on Hulu. I haven't sat down and watched a TV in years, but doing the math puts about 2.5 minutes of commercials per break times three breaks; fuck that. If they were smart, they'd turn Hulu into some sort of Facebook app and use all of my data to make ads that are actually targeted to me, rather than using the generic crap that tries to appeal to a time-slot and ends up targeting precisely nobody.

But if they want to continue ignoring ways to make money that are actually effective... oh well.

Re:Good will? (1)

Chyeld (713439) | more than 5 years ago | (#27098141)

I think my commment, here [slashdot.org] , sums up what I think the situation to be.

Re:Good will? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27107577)

[QUOTE]but doing the math puts about 2.5 minutes of commercials per break times three breaks; fuck that. [/QUOTE]
          You really HAVEN'T watched TV in a while have you? I have a mythtv. Good thing I can fast forward -- the networks here have *6 minute or longer* ad blocks! My favorite is when they have the end of a show, like 5 minutes of ads, then roll the credits. Dicks.

Boxee supports Hulu? GREAT! (5, Funny)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 5 years ago | (#27094661)

But does plimplinkplonkplinkplonko support bwabbabingbang?

See, I can make up goofy, uninspired Web 2.0 names too. Slashdotters, I invite you to join me in my new startup: Jizzogle!

Re:Boxee supports Hulu? GREAT! (3, Insightful)

johannesg (664142) | more than 5 years ago | (#27095279)

I'd mod you up if I had points ;-) Maybe it is just advancing age (I'm 38, for crying out loud), but sometimes tech discussion do sound like that to me.

By the way, your new startup sounds like a slightly dirty cross between a social site and a search engine... I would like to throw money at you for some reason.

Re:Boxee supports Hulu? GREAT! (1)

gooman (709147) | more than 5 years ago | (#27096625)

Hey, stop that!

Hulu and Boxee are perfectly cromulent product names.

Nuff said.

Re:Boxee supports Hulu? GREAT! (1)

andrewd18 (989408) | more than 5 years ago | (#27096727)

Jizzogle!

I'm afraid I can't get excited about your fantasy, your meteoric rise. You're going to have a hard time penetrating the already-saturated "jizz ogle" market.

Hulu is Awesome. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27094671)

Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters,

We've stuck together since the late 1950s, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know that we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and just will not ever agree on what's right. So let's just end it right now while we can do it on friendly terms. We can smile, shake hands, chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and each go our own way.

So here's a model separation agreement.

Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by land mass, each taking a portion. That's going to be the difficult part, but I'm sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy. Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate taste. We don't like redistributive taxes so you can have those. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. And since you hate guns and you hate war, we'll take the firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell. But you are going to be responsible for finding a biodiesel vehicle big enough to haul them around.

We'll keep the capitalism, the greedy corporations, the pharmaceutical companies; we will keep Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have the homeless, the homeboys, the hippies and illegal aliens. We will keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, the greedy CEOS and all of the rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and we'll let you have NBC and Hollywood.

You can be nice to Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer anybody that threatens us. You can have the peaceniks and the war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we will provide them with security. You won't have to worry about it. We will keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley Maclaine. You can also have the UN, but we will no longer pay the bill.

We will keep the SUVs, the pickup trucks and the oversize luxury cars. You can have the compacts, the subcompacts and every Subaru station wagon you can find. You can give everybody healthcare, if you can find any practicing doctors. We will continue to believe that healthcare is a privilege and not a right. We will keep "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" and the national anthem, and I am sure you will be happy to substitute in their place "Imagine." I'd like to teach the world to sing "Kumbaya" or "We are the world." We will practice trickle-down economics and you can give trickle-up poverty your best shot. And since it so offends you, we will keep our history, our name and our flag.

Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along other like-minded liberal and conservative patriots. And if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the friendly spirit of parting, I'll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in about 15 years.

Sincerely,

John J Wall

Law student and an American

P.S. You can also have Barbara Streisand and Jane Fonda

Re:Hulu is Awesome. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27094819)

Sorry buddy, you broke it, you bought it. You can't drive the car into the wall and then step out and hand it over. We all created this mess, and we're all going down...liberal and conservative alike. Hope you're learning Chinese...

Sincerely,

Andrew Bacevich

Re:Hulu is Awesome. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27095045)

That is the typical, liberal responce to anything. Screw it up until a disaster is looming then blame everyone else. Just for the record, I have no economic issues. I'm republican, and I have cash.

Re:Hulu is Awesome. (1)

gknoy (899301) | more than 5 years ago | (#27096431)

You may have cash, but if the economy goes to hell in a handbasket, what will you buy with it? More specifically, what will your cash or investments be worth (relative to what you can buy) if inflation hits us hard, or the stocks in your investment portfolio lose half their value?

Apologies for off-topicness, just felt I should reply to that. :)

Re:Hulu is Awesome. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27097187)

The RNC left me a long time ago. I am conservative and I have gold, lots of it.

Rip off a classic lefty craigslist posting (0, Offtopic)

mrraven (129238) | more than 5 years ago | (#27097415)

This is just a badly worded blatant rip off of this classic from San Fran Craigslist:

""Dear Red States..." A Letter From The Blue!

Date: 2005-06-24, 11:54AM PDT

Dear Red States...

We've decided we're leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States with us.

In case you aren't aware, that includes Hawaii, Oregon,Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all the Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California.

To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get Elliot Spitzer. You get Ken Lay.

We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood.
We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.
We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss.
We get 85 percent of America's venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama.
We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states pay their fair share.

Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the
Christian Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms.

Please be aware that Nuevo California will be pro-choice and
anti-war, and we're going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. They have kids they're apparently willing to send to their deaths for no
purpose, and they don't care if you don't show pictures of their
children's caskets coming home. We do wish you success in Iraq, and hope that the WMDs turn up, but we're not willing to spend our resources in Bush's Quagmire. "

More at: http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/80714812.html [craigslist.org]

The difference this is actually funny and not bitter and awkward like your post above. It seems the regressive right can't even do a rip off with any style and grace. Love your favorite slashdot commie, pinko tofu eater.

I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27094693)

XBMC now offerers VDPAU hardware acceleration in one of their more stable branches under Linux. you can now watch Hi-Def video using a dual core ATOM CPU with one of these. CPU requirements fell off a cliff with this and it was mostly all done by ONE GUY who deserves much credit. But no one makes a big deal out of it? Is Hulu's SD content really that exciting?

Boxee and PLEX are BOTH XBMC at their core, why not more credit for the Open Sourced project that spawned them?

Re:I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 5 years ago | (#27094781)

They seem to break stuff all the time, their live disc absolutely sucks.

  Right now I am using miro and an old laptop as a media center. It only has a 1.8 pentium M and an ATI 7500M. From what I have heard XBMC is a no go for me.

Re:I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (1)

pnutjam (523990) | more than 5 years ago | (#27096731)

I'm running an old Dell c640 w/ 512mb of RAM.

Re:I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 5 years ago | (#27096817)

Is it usuable or wretchedly slow?
Will it use rss feeds to get torrents?

Re:I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 5 years ago | (#27096841)

To get this laptop to use my tv's full resolution I have to use xrandr, will that be an issue?

Re:I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (1)

pnutjam (523990) | more than 5 years ago | (#27101869)

That's exactly what I'm doing. The processor is 1.8ghz, mem 512, I use xrandr to pipe it out to my TV. The fan does rev up sometimes, but it works ok.

I have Ubuntu 8.10 on there, with the ubuntu XBMC package.

Re:I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (1)

qoncept (599709) | more than 5 years ago | (#27094827)

WHAT HD content? (I say this as a person who didn't build an HTPC because I didn't want to spend what it woulc cost to build a fast enough box to decode 1080p and this sounds awesome to me, BUT..) Hulu has a ton of tv shows, available for free, on demand, and legally, and there's a lot to be said for that, even if it is SD.

Re:I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (1)

ericrost (1049312) | more than 5 years ago | (#27095311)

Hauppauge card and antenna bud!

Re:I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (2, Informative)

jcostantino (585892) | more than 5 years ago | (#27095923)

I bought a GeForce 8400 video card for a HTPC I made running MediaPortal on XP. The card I bought was $50 and has VGA, DVI, component, S-video, and composite output. The CPU (a 2.8HT P4) literally idles at about 3% when displaying 1080P.

Re:I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (1)

nabsltd (1313397) | more than 5 years ago | (#27097875)

Similarly, Radeon 4350 cards are in the $50 or less category, and have hardware decoding for MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 HD.

They don't play games real well (although older games work great), but for video watching, they are more than enough.

Re:I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (1)

jcostantino (585892) | more than 5 years ago | (#27098159)

I tried the 4350 first but it was PCI-E 2.0 and the Dell I used would only take original PCI-E cards; which the NVidia is. The ATI card has a passive fan which I had preferred.

It is amazing that a tiny corner of the chip is dedicated to decoding H264 and without that, the CPU is pegged at 100% with out of sync audio and jerky video.

Re:I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (1)

nabsltd (1313397) | more than 5 years ago | (#27102555)

I tried the 4350 first but it was PCI-E 2.0 and the Dell I used would only take original PCI-E cards; which the NVidia is.

PCI Express 2.0 cards are supposed to be backward compatible so that on a PCIe 1.1 bus, they fall back to the slower speeds. Since the PCIe 1.1 bus can't possibly know about PCIe 2.0 cards, it's the responsibility of the card—not the motherboard—to adjust.

So, I'd suspect that whatever company made the 4350 you bought didn't quite follow the spec.

Re:I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27096209)

WHAT HD content? [...]

You know, all that funny stuff from TPB with a 720p or a 1080p in its name. It can even play it from rars without having to extract them, which is a nice plus when you're dealing with huge files as that.

Re:I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 5 years ago | (#27096863)

What kind of idiot puts compressed video in a RAR for torrenting? The video's already compressed, putting it in a RAR isn't going to help anything. Bittorrent handles all the checksumming too, so there's really no point in putting a RAR in a torrent. Even if you have many many files, bittorrent handles that just fine. If you're going to post a rip from USENET on bittorrent, unRAR it first!

Re:I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (1)

jamstar7 (694492) | more than 5 years ago | (#27097177)

You RAR it when you want to password it. Like, pr0n, ya know. The pr0n with the nasty-assed viruses that chew up your computer til it turns into a doorstop that no amount of reformatting and reinstalling will fix.

Re:I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (1)

nabsltd (1313397) | more than 5 years ago | (#27097771)

Some torrent starters merely take content from another torrent, add a file or two (which are usually links to websites) and then RAR the whole thing up. This forces people to download the entire RAR instead of being able to tell their BitTorrent client to not download the spam link files.

I suppose it helps force people to seed for a while, but most recent torrents don't have any problem with seeders.

Re:I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27106051)

They are uncompressed RARs. It's a relict from pre-P2P times, basically it's making parallel transfer of a single release from several FTP sites via FXP protocol by several people at once possible. A file is RARed, split into a lot of small chunks, courier A can transfer several pieces from site B to site Z, courier C can transfer another batch of pieces from his site D to site Z, courier E transfers from site F, et cetera pp, I hope you get the idea, bandwidth of site Z is much better used that way. It's like BitTorrent over FTP. When the various parallel transfers are complete the error checking level kicks in via CRC comparison with a SFV file. Incomplete chunks are then being requested again.

You don't download files from P2P often, do you? Else you should know about that stuff, called "scene release" already.

Re:I wish XBMC would get some coverage... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27095675)

XBMC is so buggy though. The same goes for pretty much every other media center software I have used.

What is it about these types of projects that attracts the worst programmers?

Thats Why I use Plex (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27098053)

Thats why I use Plex. It is by far the most stable of the XBMCs, plus it has Hulu, Youtube, plays 1080p files from blu rays.

It lacks the hardware acceleration that Windows and Linux provide, but OSX has much better remote and optical sound support than Linux currently does.

With a fast enough mac mini, its the best media center on the planet.

Re:Thats Why I use Plex (1)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 5 years ago | (#27099363)

> , but OSX has much better remote and optical sound support than Linux currently does.

You're on crack. OSX remote support sucks.

> With a fast enough mac mini, its the best media center on the planet.

There is no mini that's "fast" enough to do HD (h264).

Fortunately, the minis that just arrived yesterday have suitable
video acceleration so that that's not a problem. Although some of
us already had similarly equipped machines.

The mini looks like it will shortly be quite unremarkable in that
respect (small form factor device with a vdpau chipset in it).

Ermm.. Plex seems to have hulu, so... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27094713)

Ok so it won't run on your appleTV, but plex certainly has a hulu 'app' that works, and presumably that means XBMC has or can have one too...

    Why all the love/whining for boxee and total ignorance of the others?

Hi my name is boxxy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27094731)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yavx9yxTrsw

Re:Hi my name is boxxy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27097241)

she is our queen

Re:Hi my name is boxxy (1)

stevegee58 (1179505) | more than 5 years ago | (#27099891)

GTFO newfag

xbmc hulu plugin just works (1)

sofar (317980) | more than 5 years ago | (#27094945)

the xbmc guys wrote a plugin which fixes the broken hulu support for xbmc - it uses adobe's (linux available) air sdk and works without a hitch.

too bad for boxee users. xbmc seems to be more mature as a project.

Re:xbmc hulu plugin just works (1)

pnutjam (523990) | more than 5 years ago | (#27096779)

Can you throw a link up here, or tell me where I can go digging. Is it in the forums?

Compiling Boxee (2, Informative)

SlashdotOgre (739181) | more than 5 years ago | (#27095415)

For those Linux users who want to brave compiling Boxee from source, I was able to get the previous release (0.9.8.4880) working in Gentoo using this thread: http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=2309 [boxee.tv]

I plan to give the new release (0.9.9.5324) a go this weekend rather than waiting for Boxee to come out with their Ubuntu version later this month. If I can get it to work, I'll post back to that thread.

thank you (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27095559)

it's great to read this stuff. I'm a first time visitor and am trying this out.

Re:thank you (1)

eat here_get gas (907110) | more than 5 years ago | (#27097517)

GTFO now while you still have time....

noun? Verb? EDITORS!!!! (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#27096277)

Oh, the games media companies play!"

What was that about the games media companies? Huh?

Oh, you mean the games that media companies play. Wow, you guys really know how to turn a phrase.

Re:noun? Verb? EDITORS!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27096367)

How do you turn a phrase?

Re:noun? Verb? EDITORS!!!! (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#27137763)

With a spatula.

Re:noun? Verb? EDITORS!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27096953)

Do not complain that there was a missing word in that sentence for that sentence was not truly missing a word. English is flexible enough to accommodate missing secondary phrase subjects when they refer unambiguously. Your complaint is invalid, and I should know that your complaint is lacking in validity and other measures of validness, because I am Mojo Jojo.

Re:noun? Verb? EDITORS!!!! (1)

mcgrew (92797) | more than 5 years ago | (#27137637)

There's more to editing than checking grammar and spelling. This isn't a matter of grammar, it's a matter of clarity and readability.

Re:noun? Verb? EDITORS!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27097819)

It's actually valid, if uncommon to drop the "that" in such phrases. Though maybe that's more a part of real english rather than whatever passes for language in USA.

Re:noun? Verb? EDITORS!!!! (1)

quickOnTheUptake (1450889) | more than 5 years ago | (#27106401)

what are you talking about?

xbmc (1)

mschoolbus (627182) | more than 5 years ago | (#27096299)

Does the xbox version of xbmc support this again?

It did for about a week and was great! I would even take the ads as long as it all worked.

Boxee is our queen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27097047)

...wait, what?

n-igJga (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27097285)

addresses will bad for *BSD. As incompatibilities area. It is the toosers, went out Myself. This isn't Leaving core. I

Boxxy is our queen (1)

stevegee58 (1179505) | more than 5 years ago | (#27097363)

Boxxy is our queen
Boxxy is our queen
Boxxy is our queen

Re:Boxxy is our queen (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27100881)

Go back to your den of scum and child pornography, fag /It's not bigoted, it's how /b/tards talk //On second thought, 4chan is bigoted. Plz don't delete my words mods.

this is goats3x (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27097879)

stand anymore, other members in BSD machines community. The archiTecture. My 'superior' machine. the mundane chores YES! the future holds haapiness Another
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