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Emulation Explosion On the PS3 Via Linux

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the like-your-very-own-time-machine dept.

PlayStation (Games) 425

Marty writes "The PlayStation 3 has recently seen an explosion of releases of emulators and games for the Yellow Dog Linux distro for PS3; once you have installed Yellow Dog Linux you then have the ability to try out MAME, SNES, Amiga, Dos, Commodore and Atari emulators (that's the tip of the iceberg) and such games as Quake 2, Duke Nukem 3D, Hexen 2 and Alephone. Time to start installing Linux on your PS3?"

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Sweet! (1)

weirdcrashingnoises (1151951) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118317)

I've been wondering for some time now if I should try and get linux going on the PS3. this sounds like a great place to start.

Re:Sweet! (4, Informative)

John Betonschaar (178617) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118821)

I'd recommend not to. It's dog slow because you can only use 256 MB RAM, you don't have video acceleration, last time I checked I didn't have bluetooth (which means no wireless keyboard and mouse and no sixaxis), and Sony regularly (mostly unintentionally) breaks the system with firmware updates (at least up to the point you need to spend time to get it booting again). Unless you really want to program the Cell CPU Linux on the PS3 is pretty much worthless. Aside from some simple emulators for ancient systems you can forget doing anything useful on it.

The PS3 programming scene is also about as dead as it can be. I've been lurking on ps2dev for years and it's still the same 5 people and nothing has really been achieved yet...

Re:Sweet! (3, Interesting)

salmaklak (1486935) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119211)

You've obviously never used Linux on the PS3 at all and are trolling. I've used my bluetooth keyboard on Linux with the PS3 since first installing it 2 years ago. That's on YDL, Ubuntu, and Fedora. Secondly, all the RAM has been usable for some time now so once again you are trolling.

Re:Sweet! (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119333)

not too much

indeed you are right about bluetooth, but using the video mem is not of much help with the ram shortage

why?

because its video mem

you can copy very fast into it, so swapping out to it works well

-but- reading from it is painfully slow, and all in all using hdd's for swap is more convenient

i wish we would get some more acceleration than using the cpu dma for pushing data around - that would make ps3 linux quite usable

but in its current state it is really only for those usable, like me, who wish to train cell programming (which is not that difficult as some like to explain in the media)

Re:Sweet! (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119227)

Bzzt.. Wrong...

YellowDog 6.1 allows access to the GPU memory too...

It's the only distro that ships with the kernel patches that allow it to do so, but there is nothing stopping any distro picking up the kernel patch.

http://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/9858/

pist frost? rly? (1, Informative)

poolmeister (872753) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118331)

Yellow Dog Linux is sooo buggy and is based on the now comparativley ancient Fedora 6, why don't just install Fedora 10 for PPC on the PS3 instead, .
There plenty of emulators in the Fedora repos and Fedora works fine on the PS3.

Re:pist frost? rly? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118449)

Actually, no. YDL is based on CentOS 5 not Fedora 6. Clearly your info on it is quite erroneous and out of date.

Re:pist frost? rly? (4, Informative)

socsoc (1116769) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118481)

Fedora? Where do you get that? It's Red Hat/CentOS [wikipedia.org] based.

Re:pist frost? rly? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118651)

Red Hat is also the base of Fedora, hence the hat theme. Easy mistake to make.

Re:pist frost? rly? (1)

beef3k (551086) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119323)

The latest version of RHEL/CentOS (5.2) is based on Fedora 6, so the OP is still correct.

Re:pist frost? rly? (2, Informative)

diamondsw (685967) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118711)

Just because it's called Yellow Dog Linux v6, does NOT mean it's based on Fedora 6. Rather, it's based on the latest RedHat and CentOS code, and is much more similar to an upcoming version 6 of these products.

Re:pist frost? rly? (3, Informative)

hawkinspeter (831501) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118825)

Or you can try Xubuntu for the ppc - they now simultaneously release for the ppc architecture.

Oblig. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118373)

Yo, Dawg! I herd you like playin' consoles so I put a console in yo console so you can play while you play!

I now feel somewhat happier.

Re:Oblig. (2, Funny)

Joebert (946227) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118753)

Install a Linux emulating emulator and ask: Yo Dawg, Y U playin ya self ?

No (4, Informative)

Tatsh (893946) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118383)

1. First of all, there are more options for PS3 then YD including Gentoo, Ubuntu, Fedora, and others.

2. Access (due to Sony scared of people making good games for PS3 Linux for 'free') to the RSX (graphics card) is very restricted. A few firmware revisions ago it was accessible but of course that gets fixed. And without the latest firmware, you cannot play certain games.

The PS3 is a flop anyway. If you want to emulate these mentioned systems, you are way better off with a PC, Xbox 1, or Wii.

Re:No (4, Informative)

Gerzel (240421) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118411)

Flop? I don't think that word means what you think it means.

PS3 has made money. It might not have caught on like the creators hoped it would or like the PS2, but it is slowly getting its market share.

It isn't a huge success story but I'd hardly call it a flop.

Re:No (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118509)

as almost every other console, ps3 are sold at a loss. maybe the ps3 as ecosystem has made a lot of money to sony, but only when factoring in the extra pricey developer kit, game signature fees, and royalty on each game sale.

Re:No (4, Insightful)

Cyrcyr (1070070) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118665)

Not sure what your point is, but it is the "ecosystem" that is making money. If you sell something at a loss, but make more money on peripherals, you're still making money.

Re:No (1, Informative)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118875)

The one thing i love about PS3 haters is that they try to state that each console are sold at a loss.

but there's no way to actually *prove* that with out Sony actually saying so. Sony hasn't released any loss/gains on the per-unit for a ps3. So at this point it's no better than wildly guessing.

Re:No (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118925)

Prove 100%? No.

But analysts have priced out the cost of components in the PS3. They came to the conclusion that the PS3 costs about $1000 a unit, based on what information Sony has been offering.

And by "analysts" I don't mean "random nerds on websites" I mean "financial analysts who do this for a living to try and offer valuable information to investors to determine the financial health of companies." It was on Slashdot a while back, I don't feel like dredging it up. A Google search will turn it up.

Re:No (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119473)

> It was on Slashdot a while back

Yes, it really was a very long while back.

You obviously haven't noticed the several revisions it has went through since then.
It is significantly cheaper for them to build it now.

Re:No (4, Insightful)

Tatsh (893946) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119361)

The one thing I hate about console-proponents is that they exist. Each console has its pros and cons. Just because you bought a PS3 instead of an Xbox 360 or Wii does not make you better than someone else. AFAIK, nobody is paying you to advertise for Sony either.

Re:No (1)

Computershack (1143409) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119409)

The one thing i love about PS3 haters is that they try to state that each console are sold at a loss.

but there's no way to actually *prove* that with out Sony actually saying so.

OF course there is. It's done all the time. An analyst company buys the product, dismantles it to individual components then prices up the parts list factoring in volume discounts to come up with a price that's not far off. Ford did it in the 60's with British Leylands Mini and conluded that every one of those was being sold at a loss and they weren't far off the actual figure. So if the ability to do it in the 60's was there, you sure as hell can do it now.

Re:No (1, Troll)

sortius_nod (1080919) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119427)

One thing I love about PS3 fanboys is that they try to defend the PS3 by picking holes in others' statements rather than giving examples of why PS3s are good machines.

Re:No (4, Interesting)

Cheapy (809643) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118811)

I don't know. When the company claims that a product is still for "early adapters" two years after it's release...that's almost flop-worthy.

Re:No (4, Funny)

MadKeithV (102058) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119471)

Is that early adapter a 9v, 12v or 220v? Would running a higher voltage make my PS-3 faster?

Re:No (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119581)

Ths PS3 has sold over 21 million units at retail, that's hardly a flop. Just because it's not #1 in units hardly makes it a flop. 2 million in two years, yes, but not 21 million.

Re:No (5, Informative)

Elementalor (551544) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118859)

No, PS3 has not made any money and it may never make any.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/index.html [sony.net]
Sony videogames division in the past three years (PS3 era+R&D, including PS2 and PSP):

2006 ===== 75 (positive)
2007 = -1,969 (negative)
2008 = -1,265 (negative)
2009 ===== 51 (positive)

Total 2006-09 === -3,108

(in million US$)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111003 [neogaf.com]

Re:No (4, Interesting)

CarpetShark (865376) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119447)

No, PS3 has not made any money and it may never make any.

I haven't been keeping track of consoles much, but I can imagine that being true, from how many kids I've (dismayingly) heard talking about their XBoxes. Also, many kids and adults (a niche market which Playstations have traditionally been strong in) have gone with Wii.

I've definitely do idea on the veracity of those figures. BUT, even if they've lost a ton of money on PS3, there is perhaps still light at the end of the tunnel for Sony. They based it on Cell, which is designed to scale easily. If that really happened in practice, and if the PS3 didn't bypass all that and just use the raw power without the scaleability, then it should be a relatively simple process to make a PS4, based on their existing, mass-producible tech, but with a few more Cell chips on the bus.

Re:No (1)

sortius_nod (1080919) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119513)

adults (a niche market which Playstations have traditionally been strong in)

Are you high? Can I have some?

Since when has adult gaming been a "niche market" or one that "Playstations have traditionally been strong in"? I am an adult, most of my gaming is done on PC. I know a lot of adult gamers, most of their gaming is done on PC. The ones that don't, own an Xbox (1 or 360 depending on what year you want to go back to)... before the Xbox, it was all PC.

So, again, are you high?

Re:No (1)

sortius_nod (1080919) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119515)

no, but I am... hah, damn quote marks.

Re:No (4, Interesting)

Mordok-DestroyerOfWo (1000167) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118477)

I'll drink to that. I got the NES and SNES emulators working on the Wii, and in all honesty I haven't played many modern games since. Getting back into the Megaman and Final Fantasy series is a pretty neat experience, especially on a new HDTV with a wireless controller. All my childhood dreams of having remote access to all of my games without having to blow in the cartridge have finally come true. Now kindly get off my lawn!

Re:No (2, Interesting)

ShadowFalls (991965) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119233)

You think that is great? Get a big screen TV and play Super Mario Bros. 3 on big world.

Wow, Guess That Makes The 360 A Massive Failure (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118559)

The PS3 is selling at a significantly faster rate than the 200 cheaper Xbox 360.

Even being 200 more expensive the PS3 is absolutely destroying the 360 in both Japan and Europe. It's only in the US right now with the worst economic conditions in a half a decade that people are having trouble spending 400 dollars on a PS3.

What is even more amazing is the PS3 has now gone for almost a year and a half at 400 dollars and it still sold as many consoles worldwide last year as the 200 cheaper 360.

With around 150 million PS2 owners out there in the world it should be obvious what is going to happen when the PS3 gets its price cut in the coming months...

What a massive humiliation for Microsoft that they couldn't manage to outsell a console that is 200 more expensive and cheaper than the Wii worldwide last year. Even worse is those sales numbers include the massive number of 360 owners who have bought 2, 3, 4 or more new consoles hoping to finally get one that is free of the RRoD hardware failure fiasco.

Re:Wow, Guess That Makes The 360 A Massive Failure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118617)

And add to that the amount of $$$ that M$ is throwing around for exclusive games and content, I would say that the 360 is more of a fail than the ps3.

Also notice how those xbots also talk about the 360 lifetime sales are greater than the ps3, yet if you take into account the amount of dead 360's, you would probably find that the qty of working 360's would be close to the amount of working ps3's. I bet M$ would never release that statistic, yet they are pretty keen to throw every other stat around under the sun!

Re:Wow, Guess That Makes The 360 A Massive Failure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118639)

Citation Needed.

Re:Wow, Guess That Makes The 360 A Massive Failure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118701)

Citation? Your must be new here.

Re:Wow, Guess That Makes The 360 A Massive Failure (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118835)

Citation needed.

Every sales charts I've seen (here's one for you [vgchartz.com] ) places the Xbox 360 ahead of the PS3 in every market except Japan.

You want to know how bad the PS3 is selling? It's being outsold by the PSP, which is an undeniable flop.

It's bad enough that major Japanese developers like Capcom and Square Enix prefer releasing for the Xbox 360 than the PS3. (To the point where Square Enix may not even bother releasing FFXIII on the PS3 outside of Japan, because they don't expect sales to recoup the costs of an international PS3 printing run.)

Re:Wow, Guess That Makes The 360 A Massive Failure (0, Troll)

Tatsh (893946) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118869)

Screw people who post anonymously.

Re:Wow, Guess That Makes The 360 A Massive Failure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119545)

Xbox sold 28.91M units in 3 years (9.64M / year)
PS3 sold 20.81M units in 2 years (10.41M / year)

WII is being outsold by DS 1:2 so by your reasoning WII must be huge flop.

Re:Wow, Guess That Makes The 360 A Massive Failure (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119555)

I suggest you read your own site, genius [vgchartz.com]
VG Chartz is like counting the amount of people who have a console because they are online.
Or, in other words, POINTLESS.

They are estimates.
I don't care if they are 10 years experienced, i seriously doubt they even know half of the gaming retailers around the world.

Not only that, they have changed things in the past in "light of new information".

Re:Wow, Guess That Makes The 360 A Massive Failure (1, Flamebait)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118851)

Yeah, on the ps3 you have a hard time playing games for other consoles on it, on the 360, you have a rough time playing it's own games...

Re:Wow, Guess That Makes The 360 A Massive Failure (1)

Computershack (1143409) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119417)

Even being 200 more expensive the PS3 is absolutely destroying the 360 in both Japan and Europe.

It's certainly not doing in the UK.

Re:No (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119277)

PS3 is a flop? Since when?

21.3m units in 2.5 years (less than 2 in Europe), is MORE than 28m units in 3.5 years...

Re:No (1)

ciderVisor (1318765) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119375)

It's 6.7m units less.

Re:No (1)

Linuss (1305295) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119437)

Is this post worth a reply or are you just being a retard for the sake of it?

Re:No (1)

Fred_A (10934) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119505)

The PS3 is a flop anyway.

I thought it was a MegaFLOP which led to it being occasionally used in scientific simulations.

But then I don't really follow the console gaming scene. Of course running Sinclair or C64 games on a PS3 has a little something to it...

PS3 without linux? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118403)

I'm not a gamer and for the longest time I have been trying to decide if I want to buy a PS3. If only it had more ram.

Re:PS3 without linux? (1)

ciderVisor (1318765) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119389)

It's a damn fine Blu-Ray player and upscaling DVD player. Dunno why you'd want to run linux on it, though; If you're not going to play games on it, you'll get lots more bang for your buck buying standard PC hardware, especially pre-owned.

Why do they always forget Freespace? (5, Informative)

Vu1turEMaN (1270774) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118433)

I cry everytime people don't remember the hardworking folks over at the Freespace SCP when it comes to Linux gaming....
http://scp.indiegames.us/ [indiegames.us]
and
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php [hard-light.net]
for more info.

Over a million posts in their forum debugging an amazing game.

Re:Why do they always forget Freespace? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118521)

off topic much?

Re:Why do they always forget Freespace? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119343)

A million bugs? Wow.

Re:Why do they always forget Freespace? (1)

Yfrwlf (998822) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119561)

Yay. Gotta love those forums where you have to dig around for centuries just to try to figure out what in the hell is going on, and where to download the damn game from.

From the main page: "The Source Code Project was started roughly five years ago, when Volition released the source code to the game known as 'Freespace 2'. This virtually unknown game consistently won awards for being a great action space sim, but never really caught on when it was released. The Source Code Project has worked, and continues to work, on improving the graphics and gameplay of this ten-year-old game. See the screenshots page; I think they pretty much speak for themselves."

Oooh awesome! I'll try it out! So you go to the downloads section and find...tools....and two launchers...and a "viewer". So you're like WTF. Your only alternative is to dig around on the stupid forums to try to find out where to download it from, which is frustrating in and of itself, and usually gets very cryptic, involving lots of Firefox tabs and links to see other things if you need this part, and these links over here to get that part, and oh you have to compile this part...

In other words, this game isn't ready to be played so that I can see those pretty screenshots for myself. Maybe that's why no one mentions it when they mention Linux gaming! But hack on, hack on, maybe in five more years you'll actually share some of that goodness with everyone else by having the actual game for download.

Yay. (-1, Flamebait)

GF678 (1453005) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118479)

How's that 3D support for Linux on the PS3 coming along?

The PS3 is a powerhouse of hardware and people want to run old-school emulators on it? Do you have any idea how embarrassing that'll look compared to someone running MSG4? Give us proper use of the PS3 already!

Re:Yay. (4, Insightful)

Tokerat (150341) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118831)

Sony locked it down with a firmware update. My biggest complaint about Sony is they're not very friendly to homebrew game developers (not that any of the console makers are).

And seriously? "It'll look stupid compared to someone running MGS4?" Is that REALLY supposed to compare? You don't find it in the least bit awesome that you can get all your favorite old games (that you own already, obviously) on your HDTV with a wireless controller? Are you really saying that the PS3 would be better if it did less? What kind of geek are you?

Re:Yay. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119173)

Much more friendly than the accursed Microsoft though, still no progress (real) towards Linux on there, makes me wish I bought a PS3 :-/

Re:Yay. (2, Informative)

Giometrix (932993) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119535)

Much more friendly than the accursed Microsoft though, still no progress (real) towards Linux on there, makes me wish I bought a PS3 :-/

Microsoft has the XNA API for homebrew games.... and they let you sell games on their network. I'd say that's pretty friendly.

Re:Yay. (0, Flamebait)

GF678 (1453005) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119221)

What kind of geek are you?

I'm a geek who believes in moving forward, not backwards. Forget emulators, we should be working towards full utilisation of hardware and not pine for nostalgic. It isn't necessary to get task A to work on product B just because we can.

I'm also not your regular geek like the Slashdot crowd are. I have found the geek lifestyle to be very empty and unfulfilling. Get away from fiddling with computers for the hell of it; they're just tools. Using a PS3 to run old-school emulators is a waste of hardware.

Re:Yay. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119379)

So you're pretty much an MBA in the Marketing Industry. You guys are like rats, you can survive the economy and nukes. How about this, don't like doing things for the hell of it, you are not a geek, you're Joe six-pack. Now let everyone else have their fun while you go back to your Windows Vista experience and figure out who you have to keep seven anti-virus-spyware programs running at the same time. Time to move forward! YEAH!

Re:Yay. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119289)

...Are you really saying that the PS3 would be better if it did less? What kind of geek are you?

i'd say a mac geek

Linux on PS3? (4, Insightful)

DemonBeaver (1485573) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118491)

I really can't see a good reason to install Linux on a PS3 except for once again proving that Linux goes on everything with a microchip. I'd rather buy a cheap pc for Linux, and have a working keyboard...

Re:Linux on PS3? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118515)

It is a waste of time. Linux runs like shit on the PS3.

Re:Linux on PS3? (5, Informative)

palegray.net (1195047) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118609)

I'm wasting mod points I used earlier in this story just to correct your idiotic point of view (I've seen this before, mostly from kids who have no clue that there's a world beyond gaming).

Linux on PS3 clusters, used for scientific computing, is a huge success. Sony openly supported Linux from the start on their console with precisely this sort of work in mind.

Get off the couch and go do something productive.

Re:Linux on PS3? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119019)

It also meant that all the rather smart hackers who want to run linux on it didnt have to break the DRM schemes like they had to on the first xbox.

This means Sony effectively eliminated a large chunk of the hackers by just plain offering most of the functionality the group wanted :)

I loathe Sony in many ways, but this -was- a smart and somewhat clever move on their part.

Re:Linux on PS3? (1)

ciderVisor (1318765) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119415)

Could you tidy up the difference between smart and clever for me ?

Re:Linux on PS3? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118527)

usb or bluetooth keyboard?

Re:Linux on PS3? (0, Troll)

DemonBeaver (1485573) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118531)

but why? why put yourself through the trouble of making it run, when you could run Linux on a computer way easier and keep playing games on the PS3?

Re:Linux on PS3? (5, Insightful)

Tokerat (150341) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118795)

but why? why put yourself through the trouble of making it run, when you could run Linux on a computer way easier and keep playing games on the PS3?

This is the fucking problem with geeks today, and why the dot-com boom ruined the tech scene.

Why? Because you fucking CAN! There doesn't need to be a point. It's INTERESTING, and you can learn about a new system by doing it. Hell, maybe you'll even find a way to unlock the graphics hardware instead of waiting for someone else to do it so you can just download the patch and be all l33t.

Now we've got all these lazy pseudo-geeks running around like "Oh, Linux on the PS3 is stupid, why not just use a PC?" and "Oh, pattern-recognition technology in video cameras is stupid, why not just use a bar-code scanner?" etc. Not sure if it applies to parent poster here or not (either way, shame on you, parent) but this is a result of all the people who went to school for computer science because it was the "hot new thing" and you could "get rich and retire when you're 30!". Now we have clusters of lazy, jaded nerds who resist change and new technology because they had a hard time leaning what little they know in the first place.

</rant>

Re:Linux on PS3? (5, Insightful)

DemonBeaver (1485573) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119001)

I think you are confusing actual research with "lets run Linux on everything including a toaster powered by a grandma on a hamster wheel". The PS3 is a gaming console. It was designed to run a specific type of software as smooth as (arguably) possible. You want to research it? Crack it? Fine. Have fun. Don't get all worked up over me buying it to play games on it. There are amazing technologies being developed as we argue here, but I doubt having emacs on a PS3 is creating the next great breakthrough.

Re:Linux on PS3? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119199)

Dude, I would so love a Beowulf-Cluster of Linux Grandma powered toasters. Grandma would get her exercise. I would be able to start my toaster from my cellphone. Everyone would get toast. There could be toast preference presets that auto adjust with biometrics, I could sell my toast data to Google Trends and eat it too. EVERYONE WINS WITH GRANDMA POWERED LINUX TOASTERS!

Re:Linux on PS3? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119251)

IBM will have a patent on this in 3 weeks

Re:Linux on PS3? (1)

ciderVisor (1318765) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119425)

Best AC post of the year !

Re:Linux on PS3? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119461)

There are amazing technologies being developed as we argue here, but I doubt having emacs on a PS3 is creating the next great breakthrough.

I find your lack of vision disturbing :P

Re:Linux on PS3? (4, Insightful)

zwei2stein (782480) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119201)

I have seen what you loathe happen over and over again before .com. Your conclusions are too hasty.

Certain percentage of geeks simply matures and "doing cool stuff" is not enough. Or maybe it is exposure to actual, non-academic, world of software development where cool ideas tend to work out as dumb waste of time.

If you have your pet project, it also has to be useful. It needs to be something worthy your time when not with family/working. It ideally should give you job-translatable skills (haha). And you definitely do not want to reinvent wheel or spend time making someone elses reinvented wheel working.

More on topic:

Installing Linux on PS3 is easy. Installing emulators on Linux is easy. Its nothing to write home if you do both. Hell, its wasted time if you do it because you could be actually look for those hidden hardware gems instead making videos of you playing Mario.

Re:Linux on PS3? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119593)

You must be new yourself. It has always been like that.

In fact, it's like that in every field. There are a few dedicated people and a whole lot more "poseurs". Work still gets done.

Re:Linux on PS3? (1)

SuperDre (982372) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118855)

Uhm... I guess you've never installed linux if you are saying 'on a computer way easier'.. Installing it on the PS3 is about the easiest you can, because distro's like YellowDog are especially for PS3, so no need to go and find some obscure driver to get your old video/sound/networkcard working.. And what's with that respond of 'and keep playing games on the PS3', if you installed Linux on the PS3 you can just switch to regular PS3 gaming whenever you like by restarting the PS3 (which ofcourse is much faster as you would restart a regular old PC).. I don't know about you, but even though I have some old PC systems laying around I'm not really interested in spending my time getting those up and running and connected to my TV when all I have to do is put in a DVD and just start it..

Re:Linux on PS3? (1)

skreeech (221390) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118529)

a usb keyboard works fine on it. I think you need one for most installations. I am not disputing that a cheap PC is a much better alternative.

from the like-your-very-own-time-machine dept. (4, Insightful)

skreeech (221390) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118525)

Most of those programs worked on the PS3 day one. I am not aware of what makes this a new development.

Re:from the like-your-very-own-time-machine dept. (1)

allaunjsilverfox2 (882195) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118569)

Because slashdot says so! n.n

Re:from the like-your-very-own-time-machine dept. (1)

retro.sufi (1288520) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119153)

Yes I agree. But oh well ps3 needs some +ve propaganda since there has been a lot of it against it for no reason. The keyword here is "propaganda". ;)

2006 called... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118587)

it wants its news back.

Why buy a PS3... (1, Troll)

lazycam (1007621) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118625)

What is the point of purchasing the most expensive consoles on the market to play emulator games? This is not news. Linux on the PS3 is news. Seti at home on the PS3 is news. Running an emulator, solitaire or Tux racer on the PS3 is a waste good hardware (unless this is your primary Linux rig).

Re:Why buy a PS3... (1, Insightful)

feepness (543479) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118733)

What is the point of buying the most expensive console on the market to run Seti at home? You aren't buying the PS3 to do emulation. You're buying it to play the library of hundreds of games. The fact that you can stream content from the computer, watch BluRays, and do emulation is just a bonus. Running Seti at home is the silly thing. I can do that on my computer. Playing an emulator with a real pad on my big screen not so much.

Re:Why buy a PS3... (1)

dancingmad (128588) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118763)

Who modded this insightful? I run emulators on my PC (actually my Mac) mostly of games I own or never were released in the U.S. (I'm looking at you Mother 3).

Mac emulators are far behind their Windows and even Linux counterparts. While I hope the situation will get better as Macs gain more market share, for a lot of emulation tasks, Mac OS doesn't cut it (Boot Camp is great, of course, but no one wants to boot into Windows just to play Rhythm Tengoku).

However, even on a Windows PC, it's not nearly as great an experience. To get the real feel of the game you have to hook a joypad into the computer (on my precious MacBook Pro, I only have 2 USB ports, expanded to five with a hub). And most of the best game pads are console ons with a USB adaptor. Even full screened, sitting at a chair with a game pad is different from being sprawled out on the couch playing say, Fire Emblem Genealogy of The Holy War. Some time's it's OK to run an emulator and have my IM and web browser in the background, but usually I just want to concentrate on the game. While it's not quite as "pick up and play" as having the original console and game, it's awful close. With easy multiplayer, console emulation can be great, and it's one of the major reasons I am thinking of getting a PS3.

Re:Why buy a PS3... (1)

Tokerat (150341) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118817)

What is the point of purchasing the most expensive consoles on the market to play emulator games? This is not news. Linux on the PS3 is news. Seti at home on the PS3 is news. Running an emulator, solitaire or Tux racer on the PS3 is a waste good hardware (unless this is your primary Linux rig).

What is the point of purchasing the most expensive consoles on the market to play emulator games? So I can play them on my 52" HDTV. With an actual game pad. From the same rig that plays the latest releases. And my BluRay movies. In my living room, sprawled out on my comfortable couch with a metric assload of snack food instead of at my desk in my office chair where I can spill beer in my server.

You must be a hit at parties.

Re:Why buy a PS3... (1)

IrquiM (471313) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118985)

Because you can!

idiots (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118633)

great idea! let's spend $400 on a system then only use it to play games that are 10 years old,

wow homebrewers keep getting smarter every generation.....

Re:idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118881)

well in 10 years when Sony starts making PS4, the PS3 games will be 10 years old.

Re:idiots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119169)

And sony will still be a huge pile of steaming horse shit.

FUCK SONY! I can't wait till they die.

What explosion? (4, Insightful)

seebs (15766) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118655)

Please name an emulator which works on the PS3 today and didn't in 2007.

"Explosion" implies that there are many such emulators, and that they all showed up recently. In fact, I don't know of any at all, and it's hardly an "explosion" for a Linux system to have access to a bunch of common Linux packages. What next? "Emulator explosion on the Eee" headlines because my specific Eee has access to more emulators than it did when I bought it?

The madness (3, Funny)

hee gozer (1261036) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118667)

All those fancy cell cores with their gigahertzes and gigaflops, the hdd with its gigabytes and then bluray, just to play a game of Hunt the Wumpus [die.net] ! Hunt in shiny HD ascii!

The reason is the same as it has always been (4, Insightful)

zaffir (546764) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118683)

The reason to put Linux on a PS3 is the same as it has been since release day: access to the wonderfully (sinfully?) complex Cell.

If the thought of 6 128-bit wide vector processors hanging off the back of a general purpose CPU gets you all hot and bothered, the Linux on the PS3 is a great place to start.

Re:The reason is the same as it has always been (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118833)

Exactly. Compare the price of a PS3 to an IBM blade or anything out of Mercury Inc. If you want to fool about with a Cell processor on your own cash, the PS3 is the *only* way to go.

Personally, I started out with YellowDog and found the emphasis on the Dog part. Fedora 7 never got beyond thrashing my hard drive, and I settled on Xubuntu. Most of it works "out of the box", and if you put in a bit of effort you might learn something along the way.

Re:The reason is the same as it has always been (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119225)

I'd rather have 128 32-bit scalar processors with enough memory bandwidth and capacity to do something interesting that I can program in C without a lot of extra hassle. Oh wait, I already have that in my almost 3 year old Nvidia G80 GPU which is now only worth what, like $100?

The explosion is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118751)

...the result of the PS3 ripping a hole through space-time to steal games from the 90s. Awesome games, but you can do more with a smaller budget on a conventional PC and it doesn't doesn't lock you out of the hardware or software.

Year of Linux on PS3? (1)

TheCybernator (996224) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118839)

Emulation Explosion On the PS3 Via Linux

So is 2009 the Year of Linux on PS3?

linux on ps3 haha (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27118845)

Why would I want to play 9 year old+ games on a new entertainment system? I mean really quake 2 haha and Atari hum I played that in 1978. Yeah I could not wait 31 years for Sony to make the PS3 so I could play those games again. Oh and maybe in the U.S. XBOX is king but PS3 rules in Europe. Can anyone say CODE FREE!

Re:linux on ps3 haha (2, Insightful)

Arker (91948) | more than 5 years ago | (#27119147)

Why would I want to play 9 year old+ games on a new entertainment system?

Someone who's noticed that most games these days suck perhaps?

PS3 as RMVB player... (1)

lumwaiph (802836) | more than 5 years ago | (#27118981)

Had a PS3 recently, hooked it up with ubuntu, ppc-codecs to play RMVB. Output straight to your HD LCD. Rendering is quite slow on 1080p. Faster at lower resolution.

Explosion Emulation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27119381)

Yes, I want to emulate explosions on my PS3.

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