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JaikuEngine Gets Open Sourced

Soulskill posted more than 5 years ago | from the free-and-clear dept.

Communications 41

volume4 writes "The switch has been flipped and Jaiku has been moved to App Engine. Google will no longer be developing Jaiku, so the code and the future of Jaiku is in the hands of the open source community. From the Jaiku blog: 'Today, we are open sourcing the Jaiku code base under the Apache License 2.0. The code is available as JaikuEngine on Google Code Project Hosting as of now. Anyone can set up and run their own JaikuEngine instance on Google App Engine.'" We discussed Google's purchase of Jaiku in 2007, and their subsequent decision to halt development a few months ago.

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41 comments

Slashdot users are fucking bastards (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27199889)

-Admit it you are all mordibdly obese losers who can't admit that linux will never be used on the desktop and that your are more likely to have your penis stung by bees rather than getting laid.

Re:Slashdot users are fucking bastards (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27199987)

I know you are, but what am I?

Re:Slashdot users are fucking bastards (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27200159)

-Admit it you are all mordibdly obese losers

I admit that I am a loser but I'm pretty slim :)

who can't admit that linux will never be used on the desktop

..on majority of the desktops... I don't know about the rest of the world, but I am using Linux right now... ... oh wait, it is my laptop, not desktop

and that your are more likely to have your penis stung by bees rather than getting laid.

free dick enlargement, what else can I demand?

Re:Slashdot users are fucking bastards (4, Funny)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 5 years ago | (#27200211)

Slashdot users are fucking bastards

your are more likely to have your penis stung by bees rather than getting laid.

Try to be more consistent, please

WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (5, Informative)

bobetov (448774) | more than 5 years ago | (#27199935)

Let me just start this discussion off with a great big "Attaboy!" to our top-notch Slashdot editors.

For those of you not intimately related with all of Google's many acquisitions, etc. Jaiku is a microblogging and social-networking site. JaikuEngine is the underlying tech that makes it work. Seems to be written in Python. Designed to run on Google Apps.

There, was that so hard?

Re:WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (0, Redundant)

wondershit (1231886) | more than 5 years ago | (#27199963)

Wasn't so hard looking up the Wikipedia article for Jaiku [wikipedia.org] either...

Re:WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (0, Redundant)

Reality Master 101 (179095) | more than 5 years ago | (#27199973)

That was exactly what I was going to post (down to the "WTF is Jaiku"), except you told me barely more than the original summary.

According to Wikipedia, "Jaiku is a social networking, micro-blogging and lifestreaming service comparable to Twitter."

Re:WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (4, Funny)

hey! (33014) | more than 5 years ago | (#27200157)

"Jaiku is a social networking, micro-blogging and lifestreaming service comparable to Twitter."

Making a statement like that, prior to 1995 or so, might have been grounds for commitment to a mental institution.

Re:WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (5, Funny)

Infernal Device (865066) | more than 5 years ago | (#27200349)

I'm not entirely convinced it shouldn't be now.

Re:WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (1)

nametaken (610866) | more than 5 years ago | (#27202145)

Good lord, I must be old.

I've kind got social networking and micro-blogging figured out, but what the hell is lifestreaming?

Re:WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (1)

Pantero Blanco (792776) | more than 5 years ago | (#27202639)

I've kind got social networking and micro-blogging figured out, but what the hell is lifestreaming?

Go to Google, type in "define:lifestream" or search for it, and things get even more confusing.

Did someone just make this term up and edit Wikipedia to reflect their intended definition?

Re:WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (1)

mwlewis (794711) | more than 5 years ago | (#27204887)

Isn't that the whole purpose of Wikipedia?

Re:WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (1)

Poltras (680608) | more than 5 years ago | (#27209537)

Yes, but if done enough times, it becomes statistically relevant.

Re:WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (1)

jo42 (227475) | more than 5 years ago | (#27218211)

what the hell is lifestreaming?

6:33 AM: I woke up.
6:35 AM: I peed.
6:36 AM: I pooped.
6:38 AM: I'm taking a shower.
6:50 AM: I'm making coffee.
6:51 AM: I'm frying bacon.
6:52 AM: I'm making eggs.
6:53 AM: I'm eating breakfast.
7:01 AM: I'm getting dressed.
7:15 AM: I'm going to work.

and so on...

Re:WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (5, Informative)

jkajala (711071) | more than 5 years ago | (#27199993)

Jaiku was originally mobile-only microblogging, as far as I remember. The web interface came later. The original client was developed for Nokia Series 60 (C++). Not sure about the server side, might have been Python. Also, the Google Apps integration came later, after the acquisition. One of the unique selling points (from Google's point of view) was (disclaimer: I'm guessing) how Jaiku enhanced S60 default Contacts list to presence.

Re:WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27208747)

Actually, orginally, Jaiku was presence and location (the Nokia S60 client knew what profile was active (general, meeting or silent) and where you were by Cell tower location).
The status update stuff and the web interface can a little afterwards.

I always think back to what Joi Ito said about the two services "Jakiu is a bunch of Helsinki mobile jocks getting into the Web 2.0 of it all whereas Twitter is the Web 2.0 crowd "getting" co-presence" is still the most accurate thing.
I think you can see the influence of IRC much more with Jaiku.

Re:WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27200129)

My first reaction is that it sounds like Microsoft's Hailstorm (aka .Net My Services, aka "your wallet on the Internet"). Microsoft was positioning it to be the killer app for the .Net platform, but instead it died under a, err, hailstorm of withering criticism about Big Brother and the potential for abuse.

Google is starting to attract the type of fear and loathing once reserved for Microsoft in the '90s (and IBM in the '80s, AT&T in the '70s), so maybe they decided not to risk the PR hit they'd likely have taken by pushing "Jailstorm".

Re:WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (1)

EvilIdler (21087) | more than 5 years ago | (#27200225)

I get social networking, but what the fuck is microblogging? When is a blog a micro? Is there a minimum limit before somebody's blog is degraded in status, like Pluto?

Re:WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (1)

operator_error (1363139) | more than 5 years ago | (#27200331)

Typically, only 140 characters of text is allowed. That's microblogging (like sending out SMSs, but over the internet dude/ette).

Re:WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (1)

dsandler (224364) | more than 5 years ago | (#27202037)

The "micro" part nominally means that entries are typically capped to whatever will fit in an SMS (although it's unclear whether SMS usage is still common).

The more interesting property relates to subscription. Like RSS, you start receiving updates from contacts you've explicitly selected. Spam-proof, and highly conducive to emergent conversations. (If you're a Facebook user, this is kind of like the News Feed.) Here's another way to look at it: logging into your microblog is like joining an enormous IRC channel spanning the entire world, only almost everyone is set to /IGNORE so you don't really see them. Over time you unignore friends and build a little chatworld of your ownâ"no two views of the global conversation are identical.

Re:WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (1)

fm6 (162816) | more than 5 years ago | (#27201191)

This is mainly the usual Slashdot editor laziness. But there's a certain mindset here that's pretty common online. It says that the world is divided between those who know WTF you're talking about and those that that you don't give a Foxtrot about. How many times have you gone to a web site that claims to be the authoritative source for information about the Regularized Blivitron Server, but doesn't have one word about what BVS is?

Ironically enough, there is one editor with a degree in journalism, so he presumably knows how to lead into a story properly. But that editor is pudge [slashdot.org] , who has a terrible track record for flaming and trashing other users, which is probably why he no longer helps with submissions.

Re:WTF is Jaiku, you ask? (1)

dinther (738910) | more than 5 years ago | (#27201561)

Thanks, you that was exactly the part I wanted to know. Now I know, I no longer care :-)

Google using MS strategies? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27200069)

Basically it boils down to the same thing that MS has done numerous of times; a company or technology is bought, the knowledge and expertise are used to ones own benefit and then you dump the overhead because it only costs you extra money. The only difference here is that Google does things a little more in the public, so instead of just dumping it they "open sourced" it, but really; what is the real difference other than that the public can get their hands on the code?

Re:Google using MS strategies? (4, Insightful)

whoop (194) | more than 5 years ago | (#27200401)

Yeah, the "only" difference is people get to benefit from it. It is hugely preferable to Microsoft's buy-and-charge-outrageous-price or buy-and-discard-to-kill-competition models.

free beer, free speech, free puppies (1)

Presto Vivace (882157) | more than 5 years ago | (#27200307)

is this just a way to through Jaiku into the open in the hopes that a community will adopt it like a free puppy?

an example of Jaiku (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27200687)

Clouds hide Mt. Fuji;

But a crooked tree halfway

Class java.io.LineNumberInputStream extends java.io.FilterInpuStream has been deprecated!

Re:an example of Jaiku (1)

theillien (984847) | more than 5 years ago | (#27201357)

AHAHAHAHA!!!!

I have to actually post my laughing because I don't have mod points to give you.

Re:an example of Jaiku (0, Redundant)

Ma8thew (861741) | more than 5 years ago | (#27202279)

Obviously laughing hard enough not to notice the GP is Anonymous Coward.

Re:an example of Jaiku (1)

theillien (984847) | more than 5 years ago | (#27202329)

Point being?

Re:an example of Jaiku (4, Funny)

hawk (1151) | more than 5 years ago | (#27205893)

Jaiku Open Source
The poets now unemployed
What? Oh, never mind.

\

Re:an example of Jaiku (1)

soliptic (665417) | more than 5 years ago | (#27205927)

Probably the best post I've seen on slashdot this year. Bravo! :D

Yuo faCil it. (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27200875)

As i\t is licensed a conscious stand

YOU FAIL IAt. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27200931)

play p4rti3s the

Or you can use plain old PHP/MySQL based Laconica. (2, Insightful)

Glytch (4881) | more than 5 years ago | (#27203699)

Why continue development for an app that runs on a single platform when one can use an app that can run on any LAMP setup on the planet? [laconi.ca]

Re:Or you can use plain old PHP/MySQL based Laconi (1)

jetxee (940811) | more than 5 years ago | (#27207959)

Right! This needs to be upvoted.

Re:Or you can use plain old PHP/MySQL based Laconi (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27208521)

because it is an alternative, just like not every Web site needs Apache.
Also Jaiku had a number of features not yet implemented in laconi.ca.

Also, there still is a loyal(ish) community around Jaiku, and at least Jyri Engstom has been mentioning interoperability things like OMB, which is more than i have heard of any of the other Microblogging platforms have talked about.

Too late Jaiku (1)

Requiem18th (742389) | more than 5 years ago | (#27207079)

There is already an OSS platform for this, its called laconica, there is a public deployment on http://identi.ca/ [identi.ca]

Re:Too late Jaiku (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27208581)

yes, but Laconi.ca just implements the same sucky Twitter interface/concept, Jaiku has threaded conversations and channels natively.

and hopefully they will figure out a way to do scaleable life streaming that does not kill the servers

Source isn't a verb (1)

AP31R0N (723649) | more than 5 years ago | (#27208805)

and therefore can't be past tense.

The headline should read: Jaiku's creators release it as open source.

That version also fixes the passive voice.

Re:Source isn't a verb (1)

SparkleMotion88 (1013083) | more than 5 years ago | (#27213989)

I'd like to double-check that assertion. I just need to source a dictionary.

Social Networking 4 Little Guy? (1)

Hillyman (1477651) | more than 5 years ago | (#27264915)

Does this mean that the general public will have access to the Jaiku Engine, enabling us to create our own little social networking sites if we so choose? I'm sorry if I am not as informed as most, but I'm working on it. Thank you to those who are.
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