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What Filters Are Right For Kids?

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the cue-the-scorn-cannons dept.

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WaywardGeek writes "My daughter is using phrases like 'hot guys,' and soon will have a chat about the birds and the bees. I believe in letting kids discover the world as it is, and have no Internet controls on any of our systems, which are mostly Linux based. However, it's not fair for aggressive porn advertisers to splash sex in her face without her permission. My question is: What Linux-based Internet filtering solution do Slashdot dads favor, and do they hinder a child's efforts to learn about the world?"

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The simple one. (5, Insightful)

MoodyLoner (76734) | more than 5 years ago | (#27227855)

Keep the computer in the living room.

Re:The simple one. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27227939)

Send her over to my house, and I'll teach her everything she needs to know.

--R Kelly.

Re:The simple one. (0)

stonedcat (80201) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228513)

itsapeetrap!!

Re:The simple one. (4, Insightful)

PhilHibbs (4537) | more than 5 years ago | (#27227943)

That isn't going to help against accidental clicks on spam links that take you to places you didn't want to go. What the OP wants is something that prevents accidental exposure to offensive content.

Re:The simple one. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228095)

nothing like that exists for linux because no home user uses linux :/ any kind of thing you might see on a corperate linux system is going to be some big $$$$$$ firewall thing running on a router, i think OP is kindof screwed >

Use OpenDNS and a hosts file (5, Informative)

NeverVotedBush (1041088) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228373)

Actually, something like that exists for Linux and any OS that uses DNS - check out OpenDNS.

http://www.opendns.com/ [opendns.com]

You can configure what levels of filters to use and even customize the page that opendns supplies when a forbidden link is clicked.

They are also working to block some of the botnet phone homes.

All you need to do is use their name servers. You can set up an account and configure what gets blocked and what doesn't.

Also check out an enhanced hosts file at http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm [mvps.org] .

That will block a lot of requests from ever leaving the computer. You can also add in whatever others you want as well.

Re:The simple one. (5, Insightful)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228253)

"That isn't going to help against accidental clicks on spam links that take you to places you didn't want to go. What the OP wants is something that prevents accidental exposure to offensive content."

I have to ask...do people REALLY that often, hit porn sites by accident?

I mean, I can count on one hand (I know I know) the number of times I've actually had porn flash up on my browser when I was not looking for it....in all these years.

How bad a problem is this actually? From anecdotal evidence, I'd have to guess if someone has porn on the screen....they were looking for it.

Re:The simple one. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228489)

Happens to me about once a day -- about every time I go to mininova or whatever, but forgot to turn on privoxy. Whatever, I'm old enough to ignore it (and know what I want when I look for it). But it happens.

Re:The simple one. (3, Informative)

kirbysuperstar (1198939) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228491)

I have to ask...do people REALLY that often, hit porn sites by accident?

No.

Re:The simple one. (4, Interesting)

Sowelu (713889) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228535)

Think back to when you were ten, you put a random term into Google, and clicked the first link.

Or, "I wonder what this ad is about, I think I'll click it".

It doesn't happen to people who are more experienced internet users, but it does happen. If you didn't use the internet at that age, it probably didn't happen to you.

Re:The simple one. (1)

ucblockhead (63650) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228293)

One or two random links isn't going to cause damage, even goatse.cx

Re:The simple one. (1)

Fanro (130986) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228521)

adblock plus would take care of that

Re:The simple one. (2, Interesting)

snowraver1 (1052510) | more than 5 years ago | (#27227953)

The most important thing that you can do is to properly educate her. Obviously don't encourage porn, but you shouldn't need to actually block it. Let her know the rules, and tell her the consequence if she breaks then (no computer for a week). Let her be in control.

Re:The simple one. (1)

larien (5608) | more than 5 years ago | (#27227983)

That doesn't stop the drive-by porn pop-ups (and before you say it, pop-up blockers are only partiall effective these days).

Re:The simple one. (0, Redundant)

MoodyLoner (76734) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228147)

Yes it does.

Because you will be there to talk to her about them.

Although I admit that Firefox and NoScript are handy for popups, no tool that you can install on your system will beat engaged parenting.

She's a girl (2, Interesting)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228073)

Her interest in sex is pretty much limited to looking at cute guys in her class and in teen magazines.

Girls aren't as affected by the visual stimulation from porn ads. At least not to the extent that boys are.

She's not going to be any better off because you start filtering her internet. It's like wrestling a pig. It's dirty and tiresome and just pisses the pig off.

Re:She's a girl (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228233)

It's like wrestling a pig. It's dirty and tiresome and just pisses the pig off.

Terrible analogy as usual.

Re:She's a girl (1)

JustOK (667959) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228433)

No, its a bad analogy, guy. Try relating it to cars.

Re:She's a girl (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228235)


Girls aren't as affected by the visual stimulation from porn ads. At least not to the extent that boys are.

Wanna bet? First time I saw a picture of naked guy my slit got so wet and my clit stuck out like a tongue. My panties were soaked with my own juices and....

Re:She's a girl (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228531)

...I put on my robe and wizard hat.

Mod parent down (4, Insightful)

Sowelu (713889) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228105)

-1, totally missing the point. The OP specifically wants to let his kid explore. However, exploring kids are quite likely to wind up places THEY don't want to be, once they start looking around. I'm sure you can think of a few search terms that might give you relevant, useful information on Wikipedia...but that you might not ever want to type into GIS. Heck, my reading of the question was more like "How can I let her wander the internet ON HER OWN, going wherever she wants, without having to call me in to close a barrage of pop-up windows".

Re:The simple one. (2, Informative)

Borealis (84417) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228239)

I second this one. Filterware is a bogus solution in just about any case, as there will always be sites it doesn't filter that it should and sites that it does filter that it shouldn't. The best solution is to put the computer in a place where you can always see what is being looked at.

My son's computer is directly beside mine.

Also, as embarrassing as it may be for you, teaching your children comprehensive sex education at an early age won't hurt them any.

Depends on how fine you grind them (5, Funny)

spun (1352) | more than 5 years ago | (#27227865)

Cheesecloth works pretty good to get the chunks out.

It's too late. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27227869)

It's too late. To apologize. Too late.

They shouldn't be smoking at all! (5, Funny)

aapold (753705) | more than 5 years ago | (#27227903)

Filter or no filter, its just bad for them especially at that age.

Adblock (5, Informative)

antifoidulus (807088) | more than 5 years ago | (#27227923)

Seriously, if all you are worried about is her getting porn ads when she doesn't want them, just use adblock.

Re:Adblock (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27227963)

Seriously, if all you are worried about is her getting porn ads when she doesn't want them, just use adblock.

Agreed. Adblock is the best method to just block adverts

Privoxy (2)

Psymin (154718) | more than 5 years ago | (#27227965)

If he wants a filter that is more difficult to bypass by the child, Privoxy is pretty handy.

Re:Adblock (and NoScript) (3, Insightful)

Itninja (937614) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228195)

With those two in place she will never see a dirty picture she didn't look for. More than once I have recommended a site (usually a hacking or cracking site) to a friend and had them remark on how much porn advertising was on the site and all the porn popup ads. I hadn't even realized it because I was using AdBlock[er] and NoScript and wasn't seeing any of that.

Re:Adblock (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228227)

What he said, but with slightly more detail. Use Adblock Plus [adblockplus.org] and (assuming you are in the US), subscribe to EasyList, which now also blocks (well, technically just hides) ad elements... formerly you had to subscribe to EasyElement as well.

opendns (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27227933)

opendns

Yeeeah . . . (4, Funny)

SlappyBastard (961143) | more than 5 years ago | (#27227937)

Um . . . "splash sex in her face" . . . oooooh-kaaaaaay . . .

Re:Yeeeah . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228435)

Um . . . "splash sex in her face" . . . oooooh-kaaaaaay . . .

I, too, find his choice of words inappropriate and really unfortunate, but maybe that's because I'm into uh... face-splashing. I noticed the quote at the bottom of this page:
Be not anxious about what you have, but about what you are. -- Pope St. Gregory I

So now we should be anxious about being face-splashers? And why is the Pope commenting on this anyway?

Re:Yeeeah . . . (2, Funny)

Alien Being (18488) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228471)

You're a sick bastard for saying what everyone else was only thinking.

What Filters Are Right For Kids? (1)

flaming error (1041742) | more than 5 years ago | (#27227957)

The filter in their own brain.

Re:What Filters Are Right For Kids? (4, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228365)

They aren't born with one.

This is easy. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27227973)

What you need to do is blow a load on her face. That will cover all the bases in one fell swoop.

How about.... (0, Troll)

Groo Wanderer (180806) | more than 5 years ago | (#27227975)

You. Yes you. You are the best filter for your kids. Keep them close when they are surfing, and educate them as to what is right and what is wrong.

Don't abdicate your parental responsibilities to a glorified script, do the work. You had the kid(s), you need to take responsibility. If you are going to allow them to use the net, you have to police it.

If you don't, things will lead to heavy metal music, video games, then mass murder, the choice is yours. (yes, that was sarcasm)

Seriously though, live up to your responsibilities, and you AND your child will be better off. No filter can or will do this, nor will it answer questions and educate.

              -Charlie

Re:How about.... (4, Insightful)

Nick Ives (317) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228197)

He's just looking for an ad filter, he's clearly stated that he doesn't want to censor the internet.

Good for him too, I started online at the age of twelve in 94' (NCSA Mosiac FTW!) and eventually figured out how to setup a USEnet client. Abpe.* and all its life lessons (women do that with horses??) followed. I made a bit of money by selling those lessons on floppy disk at school too, it was a step above the random porn mags that seem to litter all the woods in this country!

Re:How about.... (5, Insightful)

ojintoad (1310811) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228221)

A parent asking for advice about filtering software by no means implies that they are not living up to their responsibilities and your entire post presuming such is in bad taste.

Re:How about.... (1)

Itninja (937614) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228259)

Good advice to be sure. But all it takes is one stray zootube video of a horse forcibly sodomizing a teenage girl to scar her for life. At least use a filter to cull out the really creppy stuff.

Re:How about.... (1)

Nick Ives (317) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228369)

Yea, I'm not a parent but when I am I'll only want my daughters looking at the highest quality pancakes.

Re:How about.... (1)

orkybash (1013349) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228361)

Good advice, but did you read TFA? He's looking for a way to stop accidental exposure, he wants her looking at porn *on her own terms*, which is quite a bit different from not wanting her to look at porn at all.

Re:How about.... (1)

Mr. Slippery (47854) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228519)

he wants her looking at porn *on her own terms*

How do you manage to be forced to look at internet porn on anyone else's terms? If you're running a broswer insecure enough to have porn forced on it, you're running a broswer insecure enough to have any amount of malware or phishing forced on it. For that reason, whether you have a kid or not, you need to be running NoScript and Adblock Plus.

Once your browser is secure, you won't be introduced to content you don't seek out.

Re:How about.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228441)

Are you for real? Are you actually suggesting a parent to sit and hawk over his child every waking minute she spends online? Should he go with her to the toilet too to check that she doesn't masturbate? Commit suicide, seriously. You are a horror and your children will be traumatized by you.

Re:How about.... (1)

zenderbender (663373) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228473)

Man would you make a crappy parent. Sitting by your child's side at all times when they are on the computer. As a parent I give my kids freedom to explore without me hanging over their shoulder all the time. That's not to say I don't have limits for them, and keep an eye on them. The OP sounds like he has good options for his daughter. He trusts her and gives her freedom, but is trying to stop unwanted porn. Sounds to me like he's trying to find a very good option. I'm just sorry I can't help other then to suggest Adblock as it does a pretty good job.

Real people are real ugly (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27227981)

I suggest you filter all your daughter's internet queries through a time machine that leads to a not so distant past where "splash in her face" was not a part of the male collective consciousness.

Use openDNS (5, Informative)

sammy_cda (783295) | more than 5 years ago | (#27227993)

Use openDNS and set up an account. Point your router's DNS settings to their servers. It allows a few different levels of filtering. You can change the levels of filtering as she grows older.

DNS Filtering (1)

evilgourmet (1158945) | more than 5 years ago | (#27227999)

You could try OpenDNS [opendns.com] to filter porn and adult sites.

Adblock Plus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228001)

Filter out the porn and non-porn ads alike. Two birds with one stone.

Use Lynx as the browser (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228003)

If you want to block porn, or at least make it no fun, use Lynx as the browser. That is the browser I used when I was introduced to computers.

Thanks (1)

Banacek (994201) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228007)

I'm glad you posted this. I was wondering the same thing. I know there is http://dansguardian.org/ [dansguardian.org] but I haven't talked to anyone who uses it. I know OSX has great built in security features, but XP leaves you out there on your own to buy something.

Re:Thanks, I use BumperCar on OS X for my kids (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228165)

We have all mac OS X machines in the house, so that helps the adults. My child also has "BumperCar" as her browser, very safe.

Re:Thanks (1)

bloosh (649755) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228177)

I use DansGuardian in a school setting. Works extremely well.

Re:Thanks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228545)

I've used dansguardian for exactly this reason for several years now, and it works perfectly. My kids complain to their friends about it, that's how good it is :-)

Adblock (4, Insightful)

Nick Ives (317) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228013)

I never, ever see porn ads because I've got Adblock Plus installed in FF. If she prefers IE for some weird reason then just put an ad-filtering web-proxy on your network like Junkbuster [junkbuster.com] .

Redirect all outbound connection attempts on port 80 through your router to that proxy and you'll be good to go. That way she won't have porn ads splashed in her face but she'll still be able to Google for hot guys [google.com] with SafeSearch turned off :).

Re:Adblock (4, Funny)

trold (242154) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228417)

If she prefers IE for some weird reason then just put an ad-filtering web-proxy on your network like Junkbuster [junkbuster.com] .

If she is clever enough to get IE to run properly on the aforementioned linux systems, she is clever enough to configure her own porn-blocker...

Open DNS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228015)

Set your DNS server to open DNS. It blocks a lot of porn, phishing, .... I have it setup as the default from my router so it is not on the computer's settings. Go to
http://www.opendns.com/ [opendns.com]

"hot guys" should redirect to Slashdot (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228027)

That should scare her away for a couple of decades.

OpenDNS (4, Informative)

jkupko (645842) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228039)

Just change your DNS servers to OpenDNS (http://www.opendns.com/ [opendns.com] ) and register your IP with them. You can use their category-based filtering to block the pr0n. Block adware, malware, and phishing while you're at it. Oh, and enjoy a faster DNS service and extensive stats pages. If you are worried about a dynamic IP from your ISP, don't be: most ISP's preferentially reassign IPs to customers instead of switching it up. Happy censoring!

Re:OpenDNS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228151)

OpenDNS is the easiest and first option and does not let her easily "get around" it.

The best IMHO is DansGuardian set up as a transparent proxy, Very difficult to defeat (and her friends WILL give her advice on how to do that).

But you educating her about sex in a sane and sensible manner is the best overall.

Re:OpenDNS (5, Insightful)

wykell (1323665) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228261)

I'm a big fan of OpenDNS. It makes my browsing faster than dealing with my ISP's overloaded DNS servers, and allows me full control over my network. For safety reasons, so far I have blocked NBA.com, and I occasionally block perezhilton.com, just to piss my girlfriend off.

As far as "filters" for kids - I grew up with a liberal(ish) mother who taught Sexual Education courses for a while. I was exposed to all of her programs, from "abstinence only" to "safer sex" and everything in between, and to be honest, what I learned from that level of exposure is that the BEST defense is a good offense. Teach your kid the values of sexuality you feel are healthiest and know that no matter how much you try to keep them protected from exposure to "bad" things, they are going to find those things on their own, one way or another. Giving kids the proper tools and knowledge on how to deal with the "bad things" is far better than trying to protect them with any sort of shell.

Re:OpenDNS (1)

fred fleenblat (463628) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228551)

>> Giving kids the proper tools and knowledge on how to deal with the "bad things" is far better than trying to protect them with any sort of shell.

I dunno, my daily use of the bourne shell protected me from all kinds of "bad things" involving girls.

Google moderate safe search (5, Insightful)

StevenMaurer (115071) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228077)

That seems reasonable enough. If your daughter isn't actually going looking for porn.

If she is, you need to have a talk. Not porn=bad because that won't work. Rather: porn=unrealistic. And that she needs to understand that much of what she will see is the result of payment to foolish and desperate people.

Oh, and build up her self-esteem. That is the critical factor in teen girls getting into situations they're not ready for.

Re:Google moderate safe search (3, Insightful)

snowraver1 (1052510) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228185)

Oh, and build up her self-esteem. That is the critical factor in teen girls getting into situations they're not ready for.

Seriously, IMO, this is the BEST thing that you can do for your daughter, regardless of what the problem is.

Re:Google moderate safe search (1)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228199)

Oh, and build up her self-esteem. That is the critical factor in teen girls getting into situations they're not ready for.

In this regard, get her something like a rubics cube (if she is interested in it). Just being able to do something the grownups can't does marvels for the self esteem.

White Filter (1)

sycodon (149926) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228097)

They should only see what I want them to see. Now if I could only find one.

adblock + living room (2, Interesting)

Jonas Buyl (1425319) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228101)

Adblock for Firefox should keep out most of the unwanted ads. The best thing you can do is keep the computer in the living room but try and let her have as much privacy as possible.

None of us were filtered!! (4, Insightful)

SlappyBastard (961143) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228109)

And we all turned out alright.

Your kids are gonna find out. Accept it. The right approach is education. And not retarded "well, ya see, when a boy and girl really, really like each other" education. Real education. And approval thereof. Tell them about condoms. Tell them about birth control. Tell them about a pumpkin-sized blood-covered creature ripping out of the girl's crotch leaving behind so much damage that the doctor quits using stitches and opts to replace everything with a steel plate.

No we didn't. (1)

tjstork (137384) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228511)

And we all turned out alright.

By what measure do you figure that? WE have completely fraked up the entire western world within the space of two generations.

I use "Dan's Guardian" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228119)

I use "Dan's Guardian" (http://dansguardian.org/), and squid on my home network. This provides reasonable filtering - kind of like a free "WebSense" - and allows me to go through the logs to see where users have been, even if they clear the history and cache of their browsers.

Spending time with the kids. (1)

arugulatarsus (1167251) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228125)

I can vouch for taking interest in your kids activities combined with noscipt or adblock doing a great job.
Your daughter will probably become savy to understand what to type in a google query and what not to type very fast. You may wish to teach her also how to read the URL name in google results and avoid the funky ones.

Smoothwall and Dansguardian (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228133)

I use smoothwall with Dansguardian for my church, home and family, works GREAT!

My advise (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228135)

As long as she's talking about hot guys and not hot girls, I wouldn't worry too much.

Re:My advise (1)

jsrlepage (696948) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228303)

Depends on your point of view. Some may like that idea, if only to have future insurance of no-kids-before-(insert religious nonsensical term here).

We must have different definitions (4, Insightful)

MikeRT (947531) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228157)

My question is: What Linux-based Internet filtering solution do Slashdot dads favor, and do they hinder a child's efforts to learn about the world?"

It may go against conventional wisdom on Slashdot, but filters don't particularly hinder a child's efforts to learn about the world. If there is something that they want to see, they can ask you if it's ok and you can unblock it. That's the 21st century version of the way that parents used to do it. Part of being a parent is being a gatekeeper. Some information your kids just need to be largely innocent of until they become adults. It's one thing to know that the ugly side of the world exists. It's another thing to take few measures to stop your kids from participating in it out of curiosity.

AdBlock (2, Informative)

Todd Knarr (15451) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228159)

Being Linux, you're likely using FireFox or one of it's builds (eg. Debian's IceWeasel). I recommend the AdBlock add-on, and possibly the NoScript add-on as well. In the process of blocking ads in general, AdBlock's going to get most of the porn ads as well. Set up bogofilter for e-mail filtering and you'll quickly get all the spam (including all the porn spam) diverted into a junk folder (Thunderbird has similar filtering built-in with it's junk-mail flagging feature, I use bogofilter mainly because I alternate between Thunderbird and Pine as my mail readers and want the junk-mail filtering to happen regardless of which one I'm using at the moment). That should take care of the majority of the problem. What's left will be search result spam, and those are mostly obvious from reading the result without having to visit the site to find out.

You need to have that chat (4, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228163)

NOW.

Filter out the obvious stuff. You won't stop a dedicated teen from finding what they want, but you can try to stop them from getting things they don't want that are inappropriate.
I have a daughter and a son, and yes, knowing there will be a day when my kids are looking for 'Hot [Gender of choice]' scares the shit out of me.

is there a capitalism filter? (-1, Flamebait)

composer777 (175489) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228171)

Seriously, that would eliminate most advertising. It could get rid of gratuitious sex and violence. Then you could teach your kids that looking out for number one all the time just turns them in to a selfish asshole. You can then teach them that giving to other corrupt institutions, such as churches, isn't a way to make up for being a self asshole. I'd bet a sound analysis of how our wonderful economic system works (like how the music industry finds and promotes talent) would do quite a bit to turn kids away from the neatly packaged rebellion that is pushed down their throats, as well as turn them away from the moronic stuff that is advertised to them starting from infancy.

"Hey Dad, I need you to buy me X". "Gee, when did the tv tell you to do that?"

Just use OpenDNS (1)

falken0905 (624713) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228183)

Use OpenDNS and adjust the content filters to block porn, adult content, or whatever you like. I assume you're married so you obviously don't need porn on any of the computers in your home, right? But, for those times when the wife ane kid are away, you can whitelist your favorite site(s) and... well, whatever.

Filters (2, Funny)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228225)

What Filters Are Right For Kids?

Today mine got up at 5 a.m. My answer would have to be, "coffee filters".

net filters for children (1)

falconwolf (725481) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228241)

it's not fair for aggressive porn advertisers to splash sex in her face without her permission. My question is: What Linux-based Internet filtering solution do Slashdot dads favor

Instead of using a filter maybe a hosts file [wikipedia.org] would work better for you. Google [google.com] has a number of results where you can download one. Basically what they are are files with URLs and IP addresses that are directed to the local host. If you try to go to pornadvertizing.com it will look for it on your computer. It's easy to add and remove websites from the file, to add a website just add "127.0.0.1 pornadvertizing.com" to the file on a new line. If I recall right, to use one on Linux just put the hosts file in the etc directory. I know that's where I put it in OS X.

Falcon

Well.. (1)

Brickwall (985910) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228257)

You could always check her history file, and see where she's been going. Of course, when she finds out you're spying on her, she'll probably run away and become a pole dancer...

But seriously, I use Adblock Plus, and I haven't seen a porn or pop-up ad in months.

You sound like (0, Troll)

LordKaT (619540) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228269)

You sound like a "concerned parent" trying to not be the stereotypical fucking tyrant we read so much about on Slashdot, but you're failing at it and rationalizing that it's the advertisers fault so you can put up filtering and ensure that your little angle stays innocent and ignorant.

("splash sex in her face without her permission" actually means "splash sex in her face without my permission" - don't try to cover it up with your bullshit)

It's time for you as a human being to sit down and have a serious conversation with yourself: your daughter is growing up, plain and simple. If she's looking for "hot guys" today, in a few years she's going to be searching for "where can I buy a dildo in XXX" (or 10 years, or whatever, I don't know how old she is).

Once you've finally understood that your daughter is growing into a sexual being, and that it's OK, you can approach this from the perspective of helping her to grow up, rather than forcing a bag over her head and keeping her in the dark.

Honestly, if she's looking for hot guys, then it's time to sit down and talk with her about it - find out what her reasons are, why she wants to look at hot guys. It may be embarrassing, but if you simply filter the content, you're just keeping her in the dark about things she wants to learn about - and that creates a whole new subset of problems based around authority.

Whitelist (1)

Mr. McGibby (41471) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228305)

Setup a proxy that uses a whitelist. You should be approving every single site she goes to. It'll be annoying for a little while, while you add all the sites she regularly goes to, but after a while each time she asks for a new site, it'll be a good opportunity to talk to her about what she's doing online.

DansGuardian (3, Informative)

pjbgravely (751384) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228309)

DansGuardian [dansguardian.org]

Either put it on their desktop or install on a server if they use OSX/Microsoft windows.

Move to Australia? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228335)

I mean the government is going to take care of this kind of thing down there, honestly...

Not Vantage! (1)

hal2814 (725639) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228339)

Not Vantage! They have a hole in them. The manufacturer knows about the hole in the filter and will do absolutely nothing to patch it. They consider it a "feature" instead of a bug. Yeah right...

Voluntary whitelist (1)

Sowelu (713889) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228345)

As a kid I know I used to spend hours in front of encyclopedias for that...I guess that's one sign of a true nerd. And of course some kids learned a lot from National Geographic. I'd suggest setting her up with a list of links to places that are 'known good'--Wikipedia for the most part, and other similar places that are good starting points for honest research. There's quite a few sites out there that would be more useful to a curious kid (and much, much less traumatizing!) than undirected search on Google. So, give her places she can choose to use to start her search, without there being any real coercion or technological barriers involved.

Once she has some good starting points you can trust, the only real harm in my mind is getting barraged by ads and clicking links that don't quite look like ads to an X-year-old. Can't recommend any tech for that, but the other replies sure can.

Re: My daughter is using phrases like 'hot guys,' (1)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228349)

Just how old is she, anyhow?

There's this whole controversy about what age is a good age for Sex Education, and how long to "prolong the innocence of Childhood". Sometimes people do this because it's "cute";- I consider it potentially damaging. But a lot depends on circumstances.

Re: My daughter is using phrases like 'hot guys,' (2, Informative)

dkleinsc (563838) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228547)

I can say with certainty that I sincerely doubt I was damaged in any way by getting the birds & bees understanding at the tender age of 3. In fact, I suspect that I ended up with significantly healthier attitudes, because when my classmates were going gaga over boobs I was more wondering what the big deal was.

"The innocence of childhood" is a concept used to protect parents from the thought that their kids are going to grow up and have sex. It has nothing to do with protecting kids, and everything to do with making adults think they're protecting kids.

If you really want to filter ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228371)

Give DansGuardian a try http://dansguardian.org/

Discovering the world as it is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27228395)

" I believe in letting kids discover the world as it is"

There's a word for parents like you... grandparents.

Use my whitelist (4, Funny)

dr_dank (472072) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228407)

I only whitelist the sites that teach good lessons for their development into adulthood:

Zombo.com: You can do ANYTHING there.

Goatse: What better way to show what one can accomplish if you put your mind to it?

2G1C: Teamwork and empowerment

Lemonparty: Appreciation for the elderly.

I'd list more, but CPS is here. Must be donation season or something.

How old is your daughter? (2, Informative)

American Terrorist (1494195) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228455)

I got open internet access when I was 12, saw a lot of porn, it didn't scar me. Of course I saw a lot of mags before that. I understand your concern, but images of people having sex probably aren't going to make your kids crazy. Young bonobos see the adults go at it all the time, they seem to turn out OK. What you don't want is her being too young and actually having sex; that should be the focus of your conversation with her.

Bad metaphor (1)

elecmahm (1194167) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228467)

"splashing sex in [your daughter]'s face" is probably not a very good metaphor for what you're intending.

SQUID (1)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228469)

In addition to the OpenDNS option, I use SQUID proxy server with Filtering inline.

If you Google "Squid Proxy Filtering" you'll find a great deal of information and howtos to set it up. The other approach is to add a white list type filter if you're really anal (pun intended) about it.

Use Google for searches and turn on STRICT filtering, which helps a great deal as well.

Honestly, they might run into a few sites here and there with objectionable content, but it should be rare if you take just a few of the more highly recommended suggestions here.

Lastly, most of the bigger ISPs now offer a range of products and services for parental controls. I'm not sure how many of these are Windows (and MAC) only, rather than inline services, so YMMV.

You do the only logical thing (5, Funny)

Beelzebud (1361137) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228485)

You demand that the government censor the entire internet for the safety of The Children!

;)

How about a proxy? (2, Informative)

pig-power (1069288) | more than 5 years ago | (#27228507)

If the OP is using a linux router/gateway machine, why not use something as simple as squid-guard?
http://www.squidguard.org/ [squidguard.org]
http://www.squid-cache.org/ [squid-cache.org]
Blacklists here: http://www.shallalist.de/ [shallalist.de]
It allows for customization (trusted/untrusted) and seems to be very effective. Good luck!
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