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Social Search Reveals 700 Comcast Customer Logins

samzenpus posted more than 5 years ago | from the easiest-password-to-remember dept.

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nandemoari writes "When educational technology specialist Kevin Andreyo recently read a report on people search engines, he decided to conduct a little 'people search' on himself. Andreyo did not expect to find much — so, imagine the surprise when he uncovered the user name and password to his Comcast Internet account, put out there for the entire online world to see. In addition to his personal information, Andreyo also discovered a list that exposed the user names and passwords of (what he believed) to be 8,000 other Comcast customers. Andreyo immediately contacted both Comcast and the FBI, hoping to find the ones responsible for divulging such personal information to the public. While the list is no longer available online, analysts fear that the document still lives on in various cache and online history services."

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Phirst Poast GREASED UP YODA IN MY ASS Tsarkon (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27250803)

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v 4.50.3
$YodaBSD: src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/yodanotes/9stepprocess.sgml,v 4.50.3 2009/03/12 05:52:25 tsarkon Exp $
  1. Defecate. Preferably after eating senna, ex lax, prunes, cabbage, pickled eggs, and Vietnamese chili garlic sauce. To better enhance the pleasure of this whole process, defecation should be performed in the Return of the Jedi wastebasket for added pleasure. [homestead.com]
  2. Wipe ass with witch hazel, which soothes horrific burns. (Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda certifies that his lips, raw like beaten flank steak from nearly continuous analingus with dogs, are greatly soothed by witch hazel.)
  3. Prime anus with anal ease. [cduniverse.com] (Now Cherry Flavored for those butthole lick-o-phillic amongst you - very popular with 99% of the Slashdotting public!)
  4. Slather richly a considerable amount of Vaseline and/or other anal lubricants into your rectum at least until the bend and also take your Yoda Doll [theswca.com] , Yoda Shampoo bottle [homestead.com] or Yoda soap-on-a-rope [homestead.com] and liberally apply the lubricants to the Doll/Shampoo/Soap-on-a-rope.
  5. Put a nigger do-rag [firstlinemfg.com] on Yoda's head so the ears don't stick out like daggers!
  6. Make sure to have a mechanism by which to fish Yoda out of your rectum, the soap on the rope is especially useful because the retrieval mechanism is built in. [homestead.com]
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  8. Slowly rest yourself onto your Yoda figurine. Be careful, he's probably bigger than the dicks normally being shoved up your ass! [thegreenhead.com]
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All in a days work with a Yoda figurine rammed up your ass.

I HAVE A GREASED UP YODA DOLL SHOVED UP MY ASS!

GO LINUX!!

Tux is the result after trimming Yoda's ears off so that Lunix people don't rip themselves a new Asshole

What you can do with you ass after sitting on a GREASED UP YODA DOLL. [gayfistingjournal.com]

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o_____________"-.___"--"___.-"____________o [hotlinkfiles.com]
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d:_\__;__:__; On FOREVER!______:_;__/__::_d [hotlinkfiles.com]

Ground Control to Yoda Doll Ballad : "Soddity"

Synopsis: --Major Tom goes to the bathroom and shoves a Yoda doll up his ass, and then gimps back to his desk to post AC Trolls on Slashdot. -Yoda Doll to Major Tom. - Yoda Doll to Major Tom. - Take your ex-lax bars and put my do-rag on. - Yoda Doll to Major Tom. - Commencing countdown, rope is on. - Begin insertion and may Goatse's love be with you. -- This is Yoda Doll to Major Tom, - You've rectally been flayed! - And the papers want to know whose shirts you wear. - Now it's time to leave the crapper if you dare. -- This is Major Tom to Yoda Doll, - I'm stepping through the door. - And I'm farting in a most peculiar way! - And my ass looks very different today. - For here... - Am I shitting in the tincan? - Far...too busy posting trolls. -- Slashdot censors you... and there's nothing I can do. -- Uploading one hundred thousand files, - I'm feeling very ill. - I don't think my feces know which way to go. - I can't tell my intestines from spaghetti- - code. Yoda Doll to Major Tom, your prostate's dead, there's something wrong, - Can you hear me, Major Tom? - Can you hear me, Major Tom? - Can you hear me, Major Tom? Can you hear... Am I shitting in the tincan? - My ass like a baboon's - Slashdot censors you - and there's nothing I can do.


The Yoda Pledge

I pledge Allegiance to the Doll
of the Greased Up States of Yodarica
and to the Republic for which it shoves,
one nation under Yoda, rectal intrusion,
with anal lube and ass grease for all.

hello.mpg lyrics.
I'm doin' this tonight ,
You're probably gonna start a fight .
I know this can't be right .
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I loved you endlessly ,
When you weren't there for me.
So now it's time to leave and make it alone .
I know that I can't take no more
It ain't no lie
I wanna see you out that door
Baby , bye, bye, bye...

A picture of your ass after YODA. [bmezine.com]

Re:Phirst Poast GREASED UP YODA IN MY ASS Tsarkon (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27250967)

the sad part is you're giving away all this talent for free!

Re:Phirst Poast GREASED UP YODA IN MY ASS Tsarkon (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251033)

You know what, you are righ. With the talent and patentable method discussed here its simply a shame that this isn't turned into a pay-for website with pay-for monthly newsletters.

Re:Phirst Poast GREASED UP YODA IN MY ASS Tsarkon (-1, Offtopic)

tuxgeek (872962) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251833)

Humorous, clever, but certainly not for the meek.
One should probably have balls of steel before attempting such an interlude.

I suppose the afore mentioned procedure also should not be attempted by anyone unless you name is Anonymous Coward and then by all means have at it, considering all AC's are professional Hershey-highway-fudge-packers.

Please keep us informed on how it went for you. Did you have to stuff a whole toilet paper roll up your ass afterward to stop the bleeding?

Re:Phirst Poast GREASED UP YODA IN MY ASS Tsarkon (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251919)

RCS keyword expansion, Linux running on power tools, and I'd forgotten all about megatokyo. Bonus style points for ASCII art and song parodies.

I fuckin' LOL'd.

I'm only anonymous, not Anonymous, but if this is what our new /. FP trolling is going to look like, then I believe the appropriate response is to politely yell for "MOAR!"

While the list is no longer available online (0, Redundant)

stonedcat (80201) | more than 5 years ago | (#27250825)

While the list is no longer available online

Bullshit I'm sure it's in 100 different places by now.

Re:While the list is no longer available online (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27250847)

True, in fact, there is already a comment that gives a download mirror, see here. [slashdot.org]

Re:While the list is no longer available online (2, Informative)

Anthony_Cargile (1336739) | more than 5 years ago | (#27250873)

True, in fact, there is already a comment that gives a download mirror, see here. [slashdot.org]"

Nobody waste your time/bandwidth even following that link, as it's to the troll post above which links to nothing but a video and imagery probably nobody wants to see (recall goatse.cx links).

Re:While the list is no longer available online (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27250937)

How can a Yoda post be modded troll?!!! I found it very insightful to see how a typical BSD user spends their spare time.

Re:While the list is no longer available online (1)

jank1887 (815982) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251381)

well... yoda does look a bit trollish

Re:While the list is no longer available online (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27250911)

So yea can we get an asshole filter on mod points? I'm tired of being modded down everytime I post something that some fuckass
doesn't think is good enough for the great and mighty slashdot. When I have mod points, I'm fair with them. I don't mod down
every first and second post I see. You know why? Because I'm not a fucking bastard. Fuck you ignorant shit licking cuntbag.

Re:While the list is no longer available online (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27250987)

Maybe you got modded redundant because it says the same thing in the summary?

Re:While the list is no longer available online (0, Redundant)

stonedcat (80201) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251107)

The summary said it was probably still in caches and history services (such as the wayback machine).
My point was that anything that is ever posted online that is news worthy is grabbed by internet users everywhere and reposted. Remember the HDDVD hexcode thing?

I didn't really think I needed to spell out my entire thought process and figured hey I'm on slashdot the smart people here will get what I'm saying.

Re:While the list is no longer available online (1)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 5 years ago | (#27252061)

and figured hey I'm on slashdot the smart people here will get what I'm saying.

You must be new here...

It's not about smartness. It's about those people here that have nothing better to do than to hang around here all day long, have tons of prejudice and projection, stemming from the self-hatred of not being out there and getting girls, or something like that. It's a very primitive thing. They are very smart on an intellectual level, but emotional and social pre-school children.

It's what comes as a price with concentrating so much on technology. But hey, would you want to get tons of girls, and not know what to input in a shell? See...

Re:While the list is no longer available online (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27252145)

Just the idea that it's a guy's role to "get the girls" and that if he fails in this "duty" there are negative consequences... all of that is itself primitive.

Re:While the list is no longer available online (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251055)

Posting Anon because I modded you down.

Did you really believe that your karma-whoring banality would earn you a precious scooby-snack? I modded you down because your post is a waste of space. If you want to whore karma, why not tell us how much Windows sucks? Why not copypaste a 15 page article into a 5-line post? Why not shove a greased-up Yoda Doll up your ass?

Until you learn how to do those things properly, I suggest that you be productive and quite wasting space. The first post is a good example of a well-constructed post. It has an introduction, an abstraction, and then hard data to back it up. You too can join the GNAA, an ad-hoc alliance of those of us deemed worthy of having Slashdot mod points, if you just try harder. If the do-rag isn't enough for your doll's ears, try using a candom [google.com] instead.

I'm looking forward to modding up your next post, but you MUST make progress!

Re:While the list is no longer available online (5, Informative)

poopdeville (841677) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251491)

Re:While the list is no longer available online (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251607)

How bad would it be to write a script to email all these people and maybe disclose the first 3 or 4 letters of their password, and if they see it's the same, then maybe they can take action...

Would that be impolite or considered spam?

Re:While the list is no longer available online (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251653)

I think a lot of people would see it as "impolite" or worse. I would want disclosure, but the technologically illiterate would see it as a violation. Still, they are better off knowing.

I won't be writing that script. :0)

Comcast has Passwords? (3, Funny)

westyvw (653833) | more than 5 years ago | (#27250851)

Who knew? Are these the same people who actually let Comcast install software on thier computers?

--Nothing to do with the leak of passwords, just saying.....

Re:Comcast has Passwords? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251011)

Actually, there was a recent story here on slashdot [slashdot.org] that showed the Comcast, Verizon and AT&T software loaders AUTOMATICALLY load when the CD is inserted and have a cryptic message suggesting the install is a DRIVER. Simply amazing.

Re:Comcast has Passwords? (2, Insightful)

afidel (530433) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251045)

All the ISP's do that and as I have told my friends and family repeatedly over the years, DON'T under any circumstances let the installer near your PC with that thing, it's not needed and can only lead to problems.

Re:Comcast has Passwords? (4, Funny)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251135)

    I've moved around a lot, and each time they've tried. They've also been insistent that I have a Windows machine for them to install with. I used to keep a spare Windows box handy just for the installs. Usually I could talk them out of touching the machine. Two insisted, and finally made me sign a waiver that I refused, but the connection worked so I didn't care. One blatantly refused to do the install without putting the CD in. I was happy that it was a spare machine I didn't care about. It came offline, and I put my Linux machine up just after they walked out the door. It had a nice clean install of Win98 on it, so they got absolutely no personal information. I wiped it later on, just in case I needed it again for something.

   

Re:Comcast has Passwords? (3, Interesting)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251323)

I hide my computers for it (I have just moved after all).

The modem needs to be activated, and the CD can do it, but they can do it remotely too. So I just tell them I want internet for my Xbox, but don't have a computer set up yet. They oblige.

I'm pretty sure they would have done it if I just said I didn't want to install the software on the phone, but I didn't want to risk it.

I called a more local office directly though, and they are always polite and helpful (found a local non 800 number).

Re:Comcast has Passwords? (1)

morghanphoenix (1070832) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251709)

Yeah, I called them and said I was unable to install the software as I didn't have a computer runnign Windows. Took a few minutes of them setting up the account remotely, giving me the new password, and then changing it online. I was completely unwilling to subject my wife's XP box to what I've seen on people's computers who were dumb enough to actually put that CD in the drive. It was really simple to avoid installing it, and nobody asked me to sign a waiver, of course I was doing a self-install and only called them to activate my account when everything was all hooked up properly. not sure how much harder it would be if I had some clueless comcost rep at my house insisting that I needed to install the software.

Re:Comcast has Passwords? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27252307)

I just tell them that I have a corporate machine whose policies disallow me from installing any software - so far it always worked. Although, on a new install where they come out and get annoying, I should setup a emasculated user just for their (non)use.

Re:Comcast has Passwords? (2, Informative)

furby076 (1461805) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254065)

It's actually quite simple. When the comcast person arrives at your house and installs the hardware they will want to install the software. Tell them no and to have them call their dispatch. They don't like to do it because now they have to wait on hold, get the person to manually activate the modem (why the software is not built into the modem is beyond me), and wait for it to start. Basically it means the comcast guy will be at your place for an additional 30 minutes. They will, however, not install it on your request. I have never had to persuade, argue, bribe, or threaten the person - I just said "no thanks I prefer not to have any extra software on my computer".

Let's not make it sound like mission impossible.

Anonymous Coward (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27250853)

I worked at call center, teletech, in Mexico City managing tech support, billing and practically everything customer related for comcast in Houston. I just couldnÂt believe how much comcast and teletech sucked. Security was simply not enforced. I actually tought of writing a story, thinking I could get it published in Rolling Stone or something. I would involve a tale of worker explotation, worst posible consumer service, and complete irresposibility about security.

Re:Anonymous Coward (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27250867)

You know, funny you mention this, but I just reading through an old article and someone else from comcast said the same thing. [slashdot.org]

How far is it spread? (4, Insightful)

Anthony_Cargile (1336739) | more than 5 years ago | (#27250857)

I wonder if that includes both home and business accounts. I'm sure you can Wayback [archive.org] the archive provided you have an original link or precise search terms, but this apparently affects quite a few people although the summary doesn't mention what exactly the revealed username/passwords are to.

If I had to take a guess, I'd say email or online customer accounts (although I don't recall having one during my painful time with Comcast), which either opens up either a financial or spam-exploitable security issue, not sure which.

...In a nutshell: This is pretty bad, but how deep does it go and can Comcast be held responsible in any way?

Re:How far is it spread? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251497)

I'm sure you can Wayback the archive provided you have an original link or precise search terms

Don't be. Wayback does not retreive the entire web. Unless it's a major site like Slashdot, you should be ready for broken links and even 0 results. There are a lot of dark corners. Also Wayback cannot be searched by terms, only by URL, with filtering by date and file type. Also information does not show up before 6 months after retrieval. Also Wayback respects robot exclusion, and even applies it retroactively though there is no legal need to do so, and the practice makes big holes in the record as domains expire & are sucked up by resellers.

You might get lucky with Wayback machine, but it's not something to be sure of.

Re:How far is it spread? (1)

furby076 (1461805) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254091)

and can Comcast be held responsible in any way?

I love the sue happy mentality of our society. A better question "and should Comcast be held responsible..."
Trust me I hate Comcast. My girlfriend laughs at me everytime I talk about comcast. Out of all the companies in the world I have dealt with - comcast is the worst (though a few months ago a comcast manager was so nice to me...no lie, I had a tear come to my eye).
Sometimes accidents happen, rogue employees happen, or some other factor. You get them to fix the problem and move on.

Aggressive Social Sites (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27250915)

A few months ago, my wife received an "invite" from one of her friends regarding one of these "mom" social websites (I really wish that I could recall - but I can't) - picture sharing and all that doo-dah.

Long story short, my constant geek bantering about "security" had finally gotten through to my wife - and she was using a different password for each website. What happened was astonishing: buried in the 58 page EULA, there was text about authorizing the site in question to logon to her supplied email account (e.g. - gmail.com) using the same supplied password. When my wife used a password that was not the same as her email account, the site simply asked her for it.

In other words, the people who use the same password for everything would simply check the "I AGREE" box, which would authorize the new site to harvest their email contacts for the sake of spamming them. Since the generated emails would be coming from a known contact, it would become a plausible suggestion for each recipient (i.e. - better than unsolicited spam).

I can imagine that sites like this would have no problem selling and/or posting this information publicly.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (3, Insightful)

Milkyfresh (1041360) | more than 5 years ago | (#27250981)

I'm more interested in the site that did this and the legality of them doing it. There is zero reason why a site needs your password to your e-mail account.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (1)

yakatz (1176317) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251009)

They can do almost anything as long as it is there in writing. The reason they ask for your password is to get your contact list. That makes sense considering that the point of the site is to find out what your contacts are doing.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (4, Informative)

z0idberg (888892) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251123)

You're not understanding the issue. Yes facebook etc. ask for your email password to get your contact list, but the issue the OP is talking about (though who knows if its true given its an AC who cant recall the original site) is that the site tries to use your supplied email address and the password you use *for that particular site* to try and login to your email account and get your contact list. So you aren't prompted for your gmail/yahoo/hotmail password. They just try to login to your email using your supplied email address and the password for that site. Sneaky given most(?) people use the same password across a wide range of places.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (1)

yakatz (1176317) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251189)

I dont know which site you are talking about, but spokeo tells you outright that they will use it to log in to your email.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (1)

rhizome (115711) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251453)

who's talking about "spokeo" (whatever that is), besides you?

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (1)

furby076 (1461805) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254153)

I've encountered those sites before - facebook, myspace, etc. They specifically ask me "want us to use your yahoo, gmail, etc to contact your friends". One time I said yes and it brought up a list of all of my friends and then it said "who did you want us to contact". It was a very plain, and clear pop-up. You couldn't miss it and you had to check off names and click submit. Nothing underhanded or sneaky. Now are there sites who will do that - most likely - but the bigger named sites are not currently doing it.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251377)

My understanding of EULA's in case law (IANAL, or even a legal geek) is that they are enforcable in so much as they say what everyone knows and expects to be there. SOme wacky clause would presumably not be then.

This is for software, not services and may even be wrong, but whatever.

Wikipedia gave no specifics, saying terms are pretty much case by case, and it focused strongly on software purchases.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (1)

dwarfsoft (461760) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251327)

I just want them to try. Having a domain with a catch-all account I just put @dwarfsoft.com and let them use that for a login. There is no attached real email account so they could never log in, even if they tried.

Also, having different passwords (randomly generated and stored in a secure database, or in memory if you are that freaky) definitely helps :)

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (2, Interesting)

Brickwall (985910) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251495)

I understand the need to have different logon/passwords, but geez - some sites are going nuts. My bank and my credit card company wanted to put me through TWO logons each, using different ID's and passwords. And of course, if you forget, neither of them will email you your password; you have to phone tech support, sit on hold for 10-20 minutes, and wait for tech support to reset the password, which takes another 20-30 minutes to take effect. So, just to check my card balance, what should have been a 30-second endeavour turns into an hour-long PITA.

And I'm not so naive as to write them on a post-it stuck to the bottom of my keyboard, or write them backwards on the back of my credit card. And I did try your suggestion of storing them in a file, but since the ones I forget are sites that I visit infrequently, I forgot the name of the freakin' file! (And again, I'm not so stupid as to name the file "passwords" or "pw", or similar.)

Finally, the solution that worked for me was using one ID/password combo for sites that don't represent any security issues (e.g. Slashdot), another combo for sites that I don't particularly want people to snoop on (e-mail), and another one with an exceptionally hard password for sites that I really want to keep private, like banking and credit cards. But I wish there was an easier way.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251785)

I keep my password file encrypted, so the only password I really need to remember is the one to decrypt my files. Makes it a bit simpler when all of my passwords are very long and completely random ASCII strings.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (1)

Kongming (448396) | more than 5 years ago | (#27252013)

You can name your passwords file something more obvious and put it in an easier to access place if it is encrypted. There are a lot of free applications that make it pretty easy to encrypt documents and to access said documents, AxCrypt being one example. Remembering one password then gives you access to all of your old, obscure passwords; just never use that password anywhere else.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (1)

0xDEAD (970695) | more than 5 years ago | (#27252075)

http://passwordsafe.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net] I love this app, only need to remember a single password.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (1)

clsours (1089711) | more than 5 years ago | (#27252629)

a tip i read once was to use word / thought association to create unique, but repeatable passwords, ie for root at work you could but use carrot@streetname or turnip@town or whatever, root at home would be carrot@homebox, etc just something you can remember. or if you use b'day or somesuch, put b'day$sitename.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (0, Troll)

yakatz (1176317) | more than 5 years ago | (#27250989)

buried in the 58 page EULA, there was text about authorizing the site in question to logon to her supplied email account (e.g. - gmail.com) using the same supplied password.

In other words, the people who use the same password for everything would simply check the "I AGREE" box, which would authorize the new site to harvest their email contacts for the sake of spamming them. Since the generated emails would be coming from a known contact, it would become a plausible suggestion for each recipient (i.e. - better than unsolicited spam).

I can imagine that sites like this would have no problem selling and/or posting this information publicly.

If you actually read the terms of spokeo.com, they will only use your email password ONCE for the purpose of getting your contact list, as that is the whoole point of the website. There is nothing at all that would imply sending spam.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (3, Insightful)

Antique Geekmeister (740220) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251537)

And you believe them about safely handling your password and never storing or selling it for other uses, why?

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27252173)

Oddly 3 of your 4 posts on /. have also been about this site you keep mentioning. And you're the only one to mention it this thread. How much of that company do you own?

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (1)

Yaur (1069446) | more than 5 years ago | (#27252599)

What they are really telling you is that they are storing your password in clear text or reversible encryption and as such can't be trusted with a non-disposable password.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (1)

VGPowerlord (621254) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251001)

Facebook is a "mom" social website now? (It prompts you for your gmail email address and password.)

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251101)

Yes. My mother, and all of her sisters have facebook, and use it as much as any 15 year old girls. It is scary.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251317)

And they use it for the same purpose as 15 year old girls, i.e. to find some big nigger cock to suck. Facebook(tm), the Nigger Sex Connection(tm)

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (1)

Potor (658520) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251553)

Not quite: it asks for your email address, and your FACEBOOK password (not your email password).

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (2, Informative)

fractoid (1076465) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251651)

Actually, what the GPP is referring to is that when you create a Facebook account, it allows you to enter your email password for a few of the major webmail providers (GMail, Hotmail, can't remember the others), trawls through your contact list and/or inbox, and gives you a list of people you've contacted via email who also have facebook accounts. It's a convenient (albeit scary from the security PoV) way to populate your friend list for a new account.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (1)

Aydsman (718016) | more than 5 years ago | (#27252557)

These days most of the major providers such as GMail and Hotmail have an API which allows you to supply your username and password only to the service itself and Facebook (or whatever wants access to your contact list) simply gets given a security token which they can utilise to retrieve the data. The Google login screen at least also notifies you about the type of access you will be granted.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (1)

fractoid (1076465) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253691)

It's entirely possible that this is, in fact, what I was talking about. :P I didn't dig into the source to see if it was actually beer or Facebook. Um, I mean Google or Facebook. I'm waiting for my wife to come back with my beer. Life is good! ;)

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (1)

Renraku (518261) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251151)

And why should they have a problem with it?

I don't think it has caused any trouble for any company as of yet. As far as they know, its practically free advertising. People see that a friend is inviting them to the site, and they're more likely to subscribe themselves.

Its like those pain in the ass sites that offer to post on your Facebook for you when you've done something at their site.

Re:Aggressive Social Sites (1)

Agent ME (1411269) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251243)

Twitter also seems to do this. I even skipped the step where it asked to log into my other accounts, but it still seemed to check my MSN account (using the same password) and automatically make me follow the twitter of someone from my contact's list.

Not the first time (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251017)

I worked for comcast about 8 years ago and at the time they had a Remedy test account they used for various stuff. One day I decided to login to the ftp using the remedy account and sitting there was a year old file with every subscriber's login and password. And since the ftp site was the account's web site home folder, these were just sitting there available to everyone.

Re:Not the first time (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251085)

Since Comcast makes the news some much here on Slashdot, there is a comment I found from a while back that had various links to private data being shared by big media and internet companies such as Comcast, Verizon, etc. [slashdot.org]

In fact, I think the ftp you were referring to (even though it was internal) was being mirrored or somehow the data was getting out in the wild. Its buried in one of the links in that comment.

Anyways, I really think, especially after reading your comment, that whistleblowers like you are the best thing for the Internet and Freedom in general.

Consumer (1)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251019)

Customers and the people like them are the people your data is sold over.
As a consumer, you are one of many.
Even if someone does care, its a quick fix and back to a race to the bottom.
Security is for paying equals, the people you cannot not afford to upset.
Paying a consumer data 'fine' every so often and a slick PR release is cheaper than real expensive on going prevention.
If congress or any other gov entity cares, any company can swear they have the best security in place..
Just not everywhere, all the time ;)
A line of top university security experts and other independent experts would tell of how the company is secure..
but your not company, just a consumer.

How do I establish whether I am still a victim? (2, Interesting)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251133)

While the list is no longer available online, analysts fear that the document still lives on in various cache and online history services."

I would like to know whether my details are on that list. Question is: How do I get a hold of that list? How do I access data from the so called caches?

Re:How do I establish whether I am still a victim? (1)

Vectronic (1221470) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251533)

That's probably the wrong question, or wrong way to find out, especially if you do not wish to become suspect, a lot of people would interpret that as a ploy to get a hold of the list for malicious interests.

The best, or rather the first option would be to call your local Comcast ISP, and ask them if your details are on the leaked list (as they should have the list in some form). When that (likely) fails, then go hunting, or possibly try contacting Mr. Andreyo, although I'm sure he's now receiving about 100 spams a minute on all wires leading to him, and likely had to sign some agreement not to disclose any further information about it.

Re:How do I establish whether I am still a victim? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251647)

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search and ye shall find.

Re:How do I establish whether I am still a victim? (1)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 5 years ago | (#27252313)

That's a very interesting list. It shows you that it's worth enforcing some limits on passwords.

The classic NT restriction is that you need to have

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc875814.aspx [microsoft.com]
* The password is at least six characters long.
* The password contains characters from at least three of the following five categories:
* English uppercase characters (A - Z)
* English lowercase characters (a - z)
* Base 10 digits (0 - 9)
* Non-alphanumeric (For example: !, $, #, or %)
* Unicode characters
* The password does not contain three or more characters from the user's account name.

They recommend setting the maximum password age to 42 days too. And the default is to remember the last 24 passwords and stop people reusing them. It's clear the people that use their girlfriend or boyfriend's name as a password would be stopped by this and would thus be a much harder target for casual password guessers.

Actually storing a hash rather than the password would be helpful too, that way even if the list leaks someone would still have to find a password which generates the leaked hash.

Re:How do I establish whether I am still a victim? (1)

furby076 (1461805) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254181)

A court ordered subpeona is the only way comcast will release information about that list. What you would need to do is sue comcast for the list stating, in the law suit, users who are on the list should be notified.

Password lists (4, Interesting)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251171)

    I remember in the good ol' days of dialup, folks (now known as script kiddies) would pound on the dialups with common username:password combinations until they found one. Those lists would float around. I've seen lists of thousands of valid usernames. The folks who got them would use the now "free" dialup until the customer finally canceled. Of course, those usernames were the same as the email address (like foo@aol.com), so in theory you had their email address too. If you hopped in the right IRC channel and chatted for a few minutes, you could get your hands on a different list pretty quickly.

    I saw other comments saying that this was just Comcast insecurity, but it brought back memories. :)

Re:Password lists (2, Interesting)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251443)

Easier than that, over my 16.8k connection I would ping scan port 80. 99.9% of the port 80s that were open were routers that served internal networks. The geniuses at the router company decided that shadowing the password on the config page was enough.

Little did they know I was a Haxxor that knew how to "View Page Source".

So many accounts from that...

Re:Password lists (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27252029)

ah, the good ol days

Re:Password lists (1)

adolf (21054) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253047)

Back in the day, my ISP had a Unix box (I forget the flavor). It was their web server, their FTP server, their mail server, and so on. /etc/passwd was wide-open, and non-shadowed.

I leave the rest for the imagination.

Re:Password lists (1)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253497)

Did people really bother doing that? Most of the dial-up ISPs had an account that was intended for testing and didn't enforce a connection limit, which was a lot more reliable. I remember one local computer shop setting up every machine that left with this account on the Yahoo! ISP so all of their customers got free dial-up Internet.

Re:Password lists (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27253619)

Reminds me a bit of something I did. Here in the uk where phone calls cost money, you could get internet accounts that were free except for the phone call; the isp gets money from the phone suppliers.

BT Internet ran one of these services, you could sign up for free online really quick, and they had another service for some pounds per month that gave you an 0800 number.

Guess what you could do there? Yep... sign up for the free account and then simply use the 0800 number with the same username/login details. free internet :) That was fun until someone posted it on alt.ph.uk and it stopped working about a week later.

Best Way To Stay Anonymous? (2, Insightful)

tthomas48 (180798) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251197)

Have a really, really common name.

Re:Best Way To Stay Anonymous? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251233)

Be middle aged and have a social network that doesn't involve the web 2.0 sites - you might have some hits from Google searches, but mostly, it'll turn up others with the same name.

Re:Best Way To Stay Anonymous? (1)

d4nowar (941785) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251235)

Spoken by the one, the only, Thomas!

oh wait...

Re:Best Way To Stay Anonymous? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251241)

Sorry, userid/login/email addresses are normally unique.

I haxxored Comcast... (5, Funny)

feepness (543479) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251255)

So I'm trying to log on to Comcast to look at my bill. It's one of those places you log on every three years or so, so I can't remember anything about the account. I gave them my name and they give me a secret question asking "What is your favorite drink?" Well who the hell has a special favorite drink? So I plug in a few answers and finally try "milk". Bingo, I'm in. Change the password to my standard website name hash, poke around, get confused, and realize... wait a second... this isn't my account. My name is fairly rare, but I guess not rare enough. I don't really have any way of resetting it to what it was before, and for some reason there was no email verification involved. So I whistled quietly as I closed the window and called customer service instead.

Re:I haxxored Comcast... (1)

Thinboy00 (1190815) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251337)

So I'm trying to log on to Comcast to look at my bill. It's one of those places you log on every three years or so, so I can't remember anything about the account. I gave them my name and they give me a secret question asking "What is your favorite drink?" Well who the hell has a special favorite drink? So I plug in a few answers and finally try "milk". Bingo, I'm in. Change the password to my standard website name hash, poke around, get confused, and realize... wait a second... this isn't my account. My name is fairly rare, but I guess not rare enough.

I don't really have any way of resetting it to what it was before, and for some reason there was no email verification involved. So I whistled quietly as I closed the window and called customer service instead.

Bad idea. They'll probably remember you as "that weird guy that insisted on using Linux/not using Windows/what-have-you" and accuse you of "hacking".

Re:I haxxored Comcast... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251397)

Presumably he called just to ask about the question he had about his account, instead of telling them about the hacking.

Re:I haxxored Comcast... (1)

feepness (543479) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251903)

Presumably he called just to ask about the question he had about his account, instead of telling them about the hacking.

Yes, not much of a point in telling them about it. I just decided they weren't quite internet ready and relied on phone instead.

Re:I haxxored Comcast... (1)

nightglider28 (1243916) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253907)

Actually, I'm a purely Linux user (Debian) and had to call Comcast to switch to the modem I had purchased. The problem was their end and the rep on the other end was amused and asked me what kind of programs I run after I mentioned that I used an XP vm to get it running in the first place. He sounded like he actually knew something and was surprised that I sounded like it as well.

Re:I haxxored Comcast... (1)

Phroggy (441) | more than 5 years ago | (#27252407)

I wonder how long it will be before people figure out that "secret questions" are such a huge security hole.

Re:I haxxored Comcast... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27252657)

thats why instead of answering the question you fill in a hash of something you will remember. Q: "where were you born?" A: "bf57d4d327983056bc500fa7aff3ebc6e623fa5f"

Re:I haxxored Comcast... (2, Insightful)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253509)

Security questions are not too bad. The worst things are things like one of my banks which insists on asking me my date of birth and mother's maiden name when I log in. Both of these are public-domain information and can be accessed in a searchable form for a very small fee (or free if you bother collecting them all yourself from the various registries), but they seem to be under the impression that it adds some security.

security question solution (1)

airdrummer (547536) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254069)

don't use yer mom's real maiden name, just make something up...of course, u'll have 2 remember what u made up;-)

Slashdotted... (2, Funny)

rockNme2349 (1414329) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251395)

I can't seem to find the link to the page with the passwords, seems their servers weren't up to slashdot.
Can someone post google cache link please?

Re:Slashdotted... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251675)

http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=%22ComCast+Mail%22++Kevin+Andreyo&fr=yfp-t-501&u=www.scribd.com/doc/9723141/ComCast-Mail&w=%22comcast+mail%22+kevin+andreyo&d=ZjZ_Sp2uSYep&icp=1&.intl=us

Re:Slashdotted... (2, Funny)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 5 years ago | (#27252475)

I shall notify the people who have critically weak passwords by email.

Heavily encrypted? (3, Interesting)

ub3r n3u7r4l1st (1388939) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251399)

If, according to comcast, the password are heavily encrypted, how the hell someone can find it in clear text?

That means someone or something in somewhere store these information in clear text to begin with.

Re:Heavily encrypted? (1)

ryszard99 (1193131) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251717)

using a dictionary attack?!

Re:Heavily encrypted? (1)

davidphogan74 (623610) | more than 5 years ago | (#27252203)

Many of the passwords shown in the postings I've skimmed past haven't looked like dictionary words. I've actually gone back to an earlier post, and Google'd a few of the higher-security looking ones, and the only result is a single out of order page. [scribd.com]

That makes me fairly certain someone screwed up this one.

Thank Goodness. (1)

revoldub (1425465) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251471)

I mean the following statement with little to no sarcasm at all. How many of you will believe that is a different story.

I have Slashdot to thank once again for saving me at the last minute from switching from Verizon to Comcast.

Warn the comcast users! (1)

gmuslera (3436) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251511)

I bet will be around a lot of messages reporting pretty much what the article say, telling the user that his password was disclosed, and asking to change their password at www.comcast.com.etc.hacksite.com/resetpassword.php.

There is always space to make a bad situation far worse

Re:Warn the comcast users! (1)

morghanphoenix (1070832) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251827)

Too bad I already hunted down the list and verified that my account isn't on it. Well, not that they'd get me anyway, especially since that little trick to show me the wrong url in my navigation bar doesn't work with my browser.

I'll Give Even Comcast the Benefit of Doubt (4, Interesting)

carlzum (832868) | more than 5 years ago | (#27251809)

I have to believe Comcast is telling the truth and some kind of malware is to blame. Over my many years in corporate IT departments, I've seen customer information handled poorly in many way. But an application storing passwords in clear text? I can honestly say I've never seen that happen. Maybe in some homegrown internal application, but not a customer-facing web site in the post-SOX era. A company as big as Comcast is certainly using third-party authentication software. They would have to go out of their way to capture passwords.

If this document is traced back to Comcast they're guilty of more than simple incompetence, they engaged in deliberate unethical behavior.

Re:I'll Give Even Comcast the Benefit of Doubt (1)

lumenistan (1165199) | more than 5 years ago | (#27252211)

The old adage works here - never ascribe to malice that which can be easily explained by incompetence.

Re:I'll Give Even Comcast the Benefit of Doubt (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27253223)

I've worked for a company that stored user passwords for webadministration in cleartext. It was made around 2000 I think, and is still in use. It actually uses DBase..

I'm glad I quit that job. :)

Most Nerds... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27251835)

Most slashdot nerds are really into "racial equality" and "social justice" because they think it's a fantastic example of libertarian ideals, and that by loving browns and mud people they'll somehow get in the pants of "hip stylish urban women" who love to agonized over the supposed crimes of whites against "oppressed peoples."

It's all fun and games and a nice intellectual exercise until you get a gang of 15 ghetto Bantu niggers in your face on the subway or on a dark street, screaming "yo muffukka fukin' cracka," hooting and hollerin' about "muh dick" and preparing to beat you to death for your iPod. What are you gonna do then, nerdles? Tell them how you're cool with their urban culture? Talk about your Linux experience? Yeah. Keep telling yourself all people are equal, and that brown people are humans.

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