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USB Tethering Working On iPhone 3.0 Through Hack

samzenpus posted more than 5 years ago | from the make-it-work dept.

Cellphones 219

eviltangerine writes "Twitter user stroughtonsmith was dickering around with the carrier bundle files for his developer version of the iPhone 3.0 OS and enabled the USB tethering options. Apparently he has even been able to use his laptop to access the internet over the USB tether. MacRumors comments that while Apple has announced the availability of tethering, it hasn't hashed out the details with the mobile carriers (probably so they can charge more in fees). No word on connection speed, but here are some pictures of his phone while tethering."

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219 comments

Tsarkon Reports PHIRST POAST Yoda is Greasy in ASS (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27253731)

Tsarkon Reports 9 Step Yoda Grease

9 steps to greasing your anus for Yoda Doll Insertion!
v 4.90.0
$YodaBSD: src/release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/yodanotes/9stepprocess.sgml,v 4.90.0 2009/03/19 03:32:50 tsarkon Exp $

  1. Defecate. Preferably after eating senna, ex lax, prunes, cabbage, pickled eggs, and Vietnamese chili garlic sauce. To better enhance the pleasure of this whole process, defecation should be performed in the Return of the Jedi wastebasket for added pleasure. [homestead.com]
  2. Wipe ass with witch hazel, which soothes horrific burns. (Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda certifies that his lips, raw like beaten flank steak from nearly continuous analingus with dogs, are greatly soothed by witch hazel.)
  3. Prime anus with anal ease. [cduniverse.com] (Now Cherry Flavored for those butthole lick-o-phillic amongst you - very popular with 99% of the Slashdotting public!)
  4. Slather richly a considerable amount of Vaseline and/or other anal lubricants into your rectum at least until the bend and also take your Yoda Doll [theswca.com] , Yoda Shampoo bottle [homestead.com] or Yoda soap-on-a-rope [homestead.com] and liberally apply the lubricants to the Doll/Shampoo/Soap-on-a-rope.
  5. Put a nigger do-rag [firstlinemfg.com] on Yoda's head so the ears don't stick out like daggers!
  6. Make sure to have a mechanism by which to fish Yoda out of your rectum, the soap on the rope is especially useful because the retrieval mechanism is built in. [homestead.com]
  7. Pucker and relax your balloon knot several times actuating the sphincter muscle in order to prepare for what is to come.
  8. Slowly rest yourself onto your Yoda figurine. Be careful, he's probably bigger than the dicks normally being shoved up your ass! [thegreenhead.com]
  9. Gyrate gleefully in your computer chair while your fat sexless geek nerd loser fat shit self enjoys the prostate massage you'll be getting. Think about snoodling [urbandictionary.com] with the Sarlaac pit. Read Slashdot. Masturbate to anime. Email one of the editors hoping they will honor you with a reply. Join several more dating services - this time, you don't select the (desired - speaks English) and (desired - literate). You figure you might get a chance then. Order some fucking crap from Think Geek. Get Linux to boot on a Black and Decker Appliance. Wish you could afford a new computer. Argue that cheap-ass discount bin hardware works 'just as well' as the quality and premium hardware because you can't afford the real stuff. Make claims about how Linux rules. Compile a kernel on your 486SX. Claim to hate Windows but use it for World of Warcraft. Admire Ghyslain's courage in making that wonderful Star Wars movie. Officially convert to the Jedi religion. Talk about how cool Mega Tokyo is. Try and make sure you do your regular 50 story submissions to Slashdot, all of which get rejected because people who aren't fatter than CowboyNeal can't submit. Fondle shrimpy penis while making a Yoda voice and saying, use the force [toysrgus.com] , padawan, feeel the foooorce [toysrgus.com] , hurgm. Yes. Yes. When 900 years you reach [lemonparty.org] , a dick half as big you will not have. [toysrgus.com]

All in a days work with a Yoda figurine rammed up your ass.

I HAVE A GREASED UP YODA DOLL SHOVED UP MY ASS!

GO LINUX!!

Tux is the result after trimming Yoda's ears off so that Lunix people don't rip themselves a new Asshole

What you can do with you ass after sitting on a GREASED UP YODA DOLL. [gayfistingjournal.com]

y______________________________YODA_ANUS__- [hotlinkfiles.com]
o_________________.'_:__`.________________y [hotlinkfiles.com]
d____________.-.'`.__;___.'`.-.___________o [hotlinkfiles.com]
a___________/_:____\_;__/____;_\__________d [hotlinkfiles.com]
s_,'__""--.:__;".-.";:_:".-.":__;.--""__`,a [hotlinkfiles.com]
e_:'_`.t""--.._'/@.`;___',@\`_..--""j.'_`;s [hotlinkfiles.com]
x______`:-.._J_'-.-'L___`--_'_L_..-;'_____e [hotlinkfiles.com]
________"-.___;__.-"__"-.__:___.-"________x [hotlinkfiles.com]
y____________L_'_/.------.\_'_J___________y [hotlinkfiles.com]
o_____________"-.___"--"___.-"____________o [hotlinkfiles.com]
d______________.l"-:_TR_;-";._____________d [hotlinkfiles.com]
a_________.-j/'.;__;""""__/_.'\"-.________a [hotlinkfiles.com]
s_______v.'_/:`._"-.:_____.-"_.';__`.v____s [hotlinkfiles.com]
e____.-"__/_;__"-._"-..-"_.-"__:____"-.___e [hotlinkfiles.com]
x_.+"-.__:_:______"-.__.-"______;-.____\__x [hotlinkfiles.com]
_v;_\__`.;_; I Yoda Have A _____:_:_"+._;__ [hotlinkfiles.com]
y_:__;___;_;_Greased Up ME In __:_;__:_\:_y [hotlinkfiles.com]
o_;__:___;_:_MY ASS! This Goes__;:___;__:_o [hotlinkfiles.com]
d:_\__;__:__; On FOREVER!______:_;__/__::_d [hotlinkfiles.com]

Ground Control to Yoda Doll Ballad : "Soddity"

Synopsis: --Major Tom goes to the bathroom and shoves a Yoda doll up his ass, and then gimps back to his desk to post AC Trolls on Slashdot. -Yoda Doll to Major Tom. - Yoda Doll to Major Tom. - Take your ex-lax bars and put my do-rag on. - Yoda Doll to Major Tom. - Commencing countdown, rope is on. - Begin insertion and may Goatse's love be with you. -- This is Yoda Doll to Major Tom, - You've rectally been flayed! - And the papers want to know whose shirts you wear. - Now it's time to leave the crapper if you dare. -- This is Major Tom to Yoda Doll, - I'm stepping through the door. - And I'm farting in a most peculiar way! - And my ass looks very different today. - For here... - Am I shitting in the tincan? - Far...too busy posting trolls. -- Slashdot censors you... and there's nothing I can do. -- Uploading one hundred thousand files, - I'm feeling very ill. - I don't think my feces know which way to go. - I can't tell my intestines from spaghetti- - code. Yoda Doll to Major Tom, your prostate's dead, there's something wrong, - Can you hear me, Major Tom? - Can you hear me, Major Tom? - Can you hear me, Major Tom? Can you hear... Am I shitting in the tincan? - My ass like a baboon's - Slashdot censors you - and there's nothing I can do.


The Yoda Pledge

I pledge Allegiance to the Doll
of the Greased Up States of Yodarica
and to the Republic for which it shoves,
one nation under Yoda, rectal intrusion,
with anal lube and ass grease for all.

hello.mpg lyrics.
I'm doin' this tonight ,
You're probably gonna start a fight .
I know this can't be right .
Hey baby come on,
I loved you endlessly ,
When you weren't there for me.
So now it's time to leave and make it alone .
I know that I can't take no more
It ain't no lie
I wanna see you out that door
Baby , bye, bye, bye...

A picture of your ass after YODA. [bmezine.com]

A POAST from Rob Malda's "Chips & Dips" Website (July 1997), which is the direct precursor to Slashdot, it was located at: http://www.cs.hope.edu/~malda/cnd/ [hope.edu]

Wed, July 23
Prequel Yoda Pictures!
From the Aren't-you-a-bit-early? Dept
Once again Harry Knowles catches the scoop on time with some great pictures of the clay sculpture that will be digitized and used for the CGI Yoda in the Prequels. Check it out at Aint-it-cool-News [aint-it-cool-news.com] .

Looks like Malda's been chomping at the bit to get a greased up Yoda in his ass for some time now.

nice try opening the pod day doors (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27253749)

But I'm afraid I can't let you do that -Apple

two days later: 3.1 update nulls this hack

Re:nice try opening the pod day doors (2, Funny)

ZeroExistenZ (721849) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253839)

two days later: 3.1 update nulls this hack

More likely a statement "yes, it is supported and built in, but your carrier does not support it yet. Your phone, yes, but we sold it bundled, so our hands are tied. Talk to the provider.

Grrrrrrr (5, Funny)

intheshelter (906917) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253801)

No haters have piled on here yet so I'll fill in for them. . . .

Apple is the devil. I have this feature on my Nintendo 64. My blackberry has a direct T-1 to God. Etc. Etc.

Re:Grrrrrrr (1)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253909)

Just a t-1?

Noob.

I look down on you, I've got wireless FiOS straight to God's ear. He doesn't care for it much, apparently it clogs his ears.

Re:Grrrrrrr (1, Flamebait)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253947)

I look down on you, I've got wireless FiOS straight to God's ear. She doesn't care for it much, apparently it clogs her ears.

Fixed that for you ;)

Re:Grrrrrrr (1)

somersault (912633) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254083)

Suddenly, it all makes sense.. shelelujah!!

Re:Grrrrrrr (0, Flamebait)

briggsl (1475399) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253933)

The apple fan boys haven't arrived yet, so I'll fill in for them We don't need obvious functionality that is available in the most low end phones, like MMS messaging and video recording. Oh no. All we need is a sexy interface with a glossy product and we're happy. In fact, we'll pretend our phone is the best phone in the world simply because it has the apple logo on it. Oh wait, hang on, Apple is introducing those features in it's new product? Well praise the lord, we've been waiting for those features for so long. Never mind the fact we said we didn't want them, now they're here our phone is AWESOME

Re:Grrrrrrr (1)

intheshelter (906917) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254011)

Yeah, I guess I should have clarified.

"I'm a HateBoi and I'm so focused on feature lists that I can't understand why people love the iPhone!"

Re:Grrrrrrr (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27254287)

It must be the apple logo!

Re:Grrrrrrr (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27254887)

"So focused on feature lists"...wow. So you're saying that we should overlook the fact that it simply does not function like other phones, yet costs more than most other phones? If I gave you an expensive polished turd with a ribbon on it, would you use that to make phone calls?

I love the apple mentality. "Let's not focus on what this thing 'does'. Look at it! It has colors and plastic and glass! How can you not love it!"

HateBoi (-1, Offtopic)

dazedNconfuzed (154242) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254067)

If Apple did not exist, you would find it necessary to invent it - just so you could complain about it. Kinda like the evangelical athiests I know, who spend more time talking about God than any devout believers.

Re:Grrrrrrr (5, Insightful)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253989)

Apple is the devil

Apple has nothing on the wireless industry. This is the same industry that disables features that compete with their business model "for your protection", charges nearly as much to send a 160 character SMS as it would cost me to mail a letter across the country, sticks people with five digit bills when their device gets stolen, charges five times as much for minutes over your allowance as they do for your allowance minutes and locks you into long term contracts using the "subsidy" of the phone as an excuse even when you bring your own phone.

In short, if the revolution comes, the wireless carriers will be up against the wall right after we finish with the Wall Street Executives and RIAA lawyers.

Re:Grrrrrrr (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27254393)

In short, if the revolution comes, the wireless carriers will be up against the wall right after we finish with the Wall Street Executives and RIAA lawyers.

and PETA

Cellular Addiction. Yeah, I'm talking to you. (3, Insightful)

geekmux (1040042) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254453)

Apple is the devil

Apple has nothing on the wireless industry. This is the same industry that disables features that compete with their business model "for your protection", charges nearly as much to send a 160 character SMS as it would cost me to mail a letter across the country, sticks people with five digit bills when their device gets stolen, charges five times as much for minutes over your allowance as they do for your allowance minutes and locks you into long term contracts using the "subsidy" of the phone as an excuse even when you bring your own phone.

In short, if the revolution comes, the wireless carriers will be up against the wall right after we finish with the Wall Street Executives and RIAA lawyers.

I'm sorry I couldn't hear you over the obscene laughter coming from all the wireless execs.

The only thing that will force a revolution in this industry is when you convince the entire teen population that cell phones are no longer hip, cool, or useful. Don't even get me started on teens and text messaging and their "need" to have 15000 texts a month freedoms.

Until then, wireless companies will continue to enjoy the fruits of your addiction. Oh, and if you really feel you're being "robbed" these days, feel free to dig up a phone plan circa 1996 to compare current usage against.

Re:Cellular Addiction. Yeah, I'm talking to you. (4, Insightful)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254561)

The only thing that will force a revolution in this industry is when you convince the parents of the entire teen population not to pay for shit their kids don't need.

Fixed that for you ;)

Re:Cellular Addiction. Yeah, I'm talking to you. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27255091)

It's planned competition. If you think the execs of these companies don't hash this out over golf, you're not paranoid enough. Telecom is a license to print money. They only give you better plans as they public gets irritated enough to start pestering their elected representatives. Then as the behemoth starts to move the telecom execs make things a little better and say, "No look see, we respond to the demands of the consumer." The execs long ago learned that to maximize your profits, move _just fast enough_ to keep the customers disatisfied, without being disgruntled. That's the real benefit of doing business in a monopoly or cartel.

Re:Grrrrrrr (1)

rwhamann (598229) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254493)

Why don't we use catapults to hurl the wireless execs at the bankers? (we'll use the RIAA execs' tendons as teh winding mechanism for the catapult)

Re:Grrrrrrr (2, Insightful)

wolrahnaes (632574) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254781)

I'm with you right up to the part about being locked in when you bring your own phone. I've been on AT&T for four years now without ever being under contract, and no I am not on a "GoPhone" prepaid, it's a normal postpaid account even loaded up with features like laptop tethering.

It's easy, I've been through four phones in that time and never once bought one subsidized, so if another GSM provider ever sprung up (or T-Mobile got a network that was worth a shit outside of cities) I could jump in a heartbeat. Technically I could go to a CDMA provider, but they all have horrible phones, so no.

Re:Grrrrrrr (1)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254901)

I've been on AT&T for four years now without ever being under contract, and no I am not on a "GoPhone" prepaid

Then you got in before they changed their policy. I tried to get AT&T service without a contract using my unlocked GSM phone and was told by four different people (salesperson, store manager, CSR on the 800 number and her manager) that it couldn't be done.

or T-Mobile got a network that was worth a shit outside of cities

T-Mobile actually has a way to do it now, but you've just answered why it's hard to do business with them. Of course, IMHO AT&T is the worst of the worst. Around these parts (and others) they are in the process of moving GSM service off the 850mhz band to make room for 3G services. As a result, you have good service when you go to bed and crappy service when you wake up in the morning (1900mhz doesn't reach as far or go into buildings as well).

Say what you will about Verizon but they've never made network changes that screwed over existing customers. I hate CDMA land but Verizon's network is really tough to beat. Particularly in the Northeast. AT&T still has some pretty sizable holes around here.

Re:Grrrrrrr (1)

tdp252 (519328) | more than 5 years ago | (#27255171)

I work in IT within the Wireless industry. On average it takes about 1 year and a half to break even on each mobile subscriber and get to the point of making any money. Most of this is because the wireless companies are heavily subsidizing the cost of the hardware to get you in as a paying customer. You can rant and rave all you like about the cost of wireless service, but it's the B2B sales that make the most money, not cheap joe the consumer.

Re:Grrrrrrr (1)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 5 years ago | (#27255253)

Most of this is because the wireless companies are heavily subsidizing the cost of the hardware to get you in as a paying customer.

Are you sure you don't work in marketing if you are repeating this line? If the contracts are all about the equipment subsidy then why does your employer charge the same ETF for my cheap candy bar with the full retail price (without contract) under $100 as they do for the $600 smart phone? Why do they lock me into the same contract as someone who got a subsidy if I'm willing to pay full price for my phone or bring my own?

Re:Grrrrrrr (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254655)

We never said Apple was the devil. We said that Steve Jobs is the Anti-Christ, here to lead his wild-eyed cult followers into a thousand-year reign of terror and suffering.

Don't put words in our mouths.

Useful report .... not (0, Redundant)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253809)

He was dicking arround with his iPhone ane "somehow" managed to bring up the tethering preferences. The only thing useful is now people know it can be done. Full points to the first hacker who can give step by step instructions.

Re:Useful report .... not (1)

CXI (46706) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253905)

The only thing useful is now people know it can be done.

Or at least we know he can mock up some convincing looking "screen captures". :)

Re:Useful report .... not (1)

Ihmhi (1206036) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253991)

Full points as well as getting sued so fast by Apple that they'll make his head spin.

Re:Useful report .... not (2, Insightful)

ruiner13 (527499) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254605)

Hackers - please don't spread the "how" until the 3.0 firmware is released. Don't give Apple time to fix the "bug" or "hole". I'd like to use this feature. Does it work on the 1st gen iPhones (EDGE) as well, or only the 3G models?

you misread that... (1)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254653)

He wasn't dicking around, the summary said he was dickering around. Obviously his phone became sentient and he negotiated the information out of it.

Re:you misread that... (1)

Chrisq (894406) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254939)

Thanks for the addition to my vocabloury


dicker (dkr)
intr.v. dickÂered, dickÂerÂing, dickÂers
To bargain; barter.
n.
The act or process of bargaining.

Wtf is tethering? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27253815)

Wtf is tethering?

Re:Wtf is tethering? (4, Informative)

codegen (103601) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253833)

Wtf is tethering?

Connecting your computer to the internet using your phone as a data modem.

Re:Wtf is tethering? (5, Funny)

rackserverdeals (1503561) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253881)

Wtf is tethering?

Connecting your computer to the internet using your phone as a data modem.

You sure? I thought it involved leather outfits and a ball gag.

Re:Wtf is tethering? (5, Funny)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254627)

I thought it involved leather outfits and a ball gag.

That *is* the ATT version of tethering, and they charge extra for it.

Re:Wtf is tethering? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27254987)

I have to ask. Is your sig serious, or is it sarcastic? One of the shortcomings of text is that you can't always tell. As sad as it is, I really do think that there are people out there who think that the iPhone implementing a half-decade old feature that came standard on my free-with-contract Motorola in 2004 constitutes 'the world of the future'.

Re:Wtf is tethering? (0, Redundant)

Library Spoff (582122) | more than 5 years ago | (#27255043)

I want to "tether" my iPod touch 2g to my Nokia e71 so i can use the phone hsdpa. Wanna do it with bluetooth though...

Re:Wtf is tethering? (1)

Mark Trade (172948) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254173)

So it's the same thing that e.g. Siemens mobile phones have had for ages (at least since the S25), but now it has a cool name?

Re:Wtf is tethering? (2, Informative)

pacinpm (631330) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254245)

Hmm, I was sure every modern mobile handset has this feature anabled by default. And what network operator has to do with it anyway? It's not his business what I do with MY phone and connection I have already PAID.

At least it works like that in Europe.

Re:Wtf is tethering? (1)

lorenzo.boccaccia (1263310) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254509)

sorry to inform you that Vodafone had always had a 2euro/week plan for "unlimited internet" on "selected application only" (aka only on your phone) and a 45euros/month plan for unlimited internet no string attached.

I think that the same applies to AT&T and others USA carriers, judging on what others around here say: the iphone plan is almost cheap only because you could not get the phone attached as a data modem, and this is clearly stated in the purchasing contract so the "PAID" part of your post doesn't cover tethering.

That must be purchased apart. Surely it would help if people started to read contracts before signing them. I didn't get an iphone for exactly this reason - it was cheaper to buy a n51 plus 45e/month data contract.

Re:Wtf is tethering? (1)

mikael (484) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254439)

From all of comments about the charges mobile phone operators charge, it would seem to make more sense to connect your phone to the internet using your computer as a data modem.

Re:Wtf is tethering? (2, Informative)

je ne sais quoi (987177) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254575)

The idea here is that cell phone have a much wider access than wireless networks. At any given location, there's a much greater probability that you will have a cell signal than a wireless signal. Thus, by tethering you can have internet access for your computer wherever. Having the computer on the internet is important because it has a much wider feature set than your phone.

I never bought an iphone because of the monthly rates, but if you're already paying AT&T 70 bucks a month for data service, I don't see why you shouldn't be able to tether it. Heck, if I traveled a little more and tethering was easy I would actually consider getting one.

Re:Wtf is tethering? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27253867)

It's when you attach the USB cord to the iPhone and spin it around in a circle like crazy. This generates a reality distortion field which allows your laptop to connect to the Internet.

Re:Wtf is tethering? (1)

danbert8 (1024253) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253893)

More importantly, WTF is dickering? A combination of dicking around and tinkering? Wouldn't that just be what nerds do when they are bored?

Re:Wtf is tethering? (2, Funny)

Sebilrazen (870600) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254139)

More importantly, WTF is dickering? A combination of dicking around and tinkering? Wouldn't that just be what nerds do when they are bored?

Basically yes, however the more colloquial term is masturbation.

Re:Wtf is tethering? (1)

JustOK (667959) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254301)

dickering [reference.com]

To bargain; barter.

n. The act or process of bargaining.

Re:Wtf is tethering? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27254145)

Tethering means dangling a ridiculously expensive phone on a USB cable from a laptop to connect the laptop to the internet. Advanced forms of tethering replace the cable with a Bluetooth link, for a slower connection, extra battery consumption and more avenues of attack.

The alternative is a $50 USB stick or mini PCI-Express card, which is powered by the laptop and leaves the phone free for calls while you're online.

Extra cost for tethering (1)

walts2004 (761601) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253837)

For the Windows Mobile data contracts, AT&T charges $5.00 more a month for tethering. Somehow they "Know" you're doing it, it won't work unless you pay!

Re:Extra cost for tethering (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27253971)

Yes I used to take the train from Boston to NY occasionally (when this sort of thing comes in really handily) and back then used my blackberry. I remember a work around in terms of paying - there was a username and password you had to enter for the blackberry to dial into ATT - I got it off a friend who way paying and passed it along. I used it a few times at it worked fine.

Re:Extra cost for tethering (3, Interesting)

darkvad0r (1331303) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253985)

I do it over wifi with my jailbroken iPhone and my carrier (Orange France) has not noticed (or maybe I don't do it often enough for them to care about it). Either way, I'm sure there are ways to work around the tethering fee.

Re:Extra cost for tethering (1)

theSpitzer (1504349) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254193)

I do it over wifi with my jailbroken iPhone and my carrier (Orange France) has not noticed (or maybe I don't do it often enough for them to care about it). Either way, I'm sure there are ways to work around the tethering fee.

Thats because you're doing it over WiFi...not on your providers data network (3g or EDGE). They have no way of telling if you're tethering over wifi.

Re:Extra cost for tethering (5, Interesting)

darkvad0r (1331303) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254277)

No, you got it all wrong. The phone and the laptop are connected aver wifi (adhoc network). Then I create a sock proxy on my iphone and setup firefox to go through that proxy. The data is effectively transferred over 3G or EDGE.

Re:Extra cost for tethering (1)

theSpitzer (1504349) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254503)

My mistake. I understand what you mean now. :)

Re:Extra cost for tethering (1)

jcrousedotcom (999175) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254479)

If there was WiFi available, why would I even think of tethering? I am pretty sure I'd just use my wireless network card in my laptop (you know, that thing you're tethering) and connect directly to the WiFi hotspot. Of course, that's just me.

Re:Extra cost for tethering (1)

theSpitzer (1504349) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254821)

Dont be a smartass, I thought it seemed like a really dumb idea too when I read what you first wrote. I thought you may be doing it as a proof of concept.

Re:Extra cost for tethering (2, Interesting)

Andy_R (114137) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254971)

I want to tether when there's WiFi is available. My Mac Pro doesn't have a wifi card, so using my iPhone as a USB wifi adapter would save me buying one.

Re:Extra cost for tethering (1)

Christophotron (812632) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254075)

For the Windows Mobile data contracts, AT&T charges $5.00 more a month for tethering. Somehow they "Know" you're doing it, it won't work unless you pay!

That's not true. ANY Windows Mobile phone with a data connection can tether, right out of the box, ATT or not (at least all of them I have used). Remember, it's pretty much a small Windows PC. It has an Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) service built-in. ATT may not provide a shortcut to the executable in their customized firmware without a monthly fee, but the executable is still there. You can execute it and then tether over bluetooth or USB. I've heard stories that if you use _way too much_ then they will notice, but otherwise they don't really see the difference in usage.

Oh, and you are WAY WAY off on the monthly fee. It's something like another $40 per month for unlimited tethering. They might have a tier below that, I'm not sure. But it's definitely more than $5. So $40 for unlimited phone data + $40 unlimited tethering = rape without lube. Just say "NO" to paying extra for tethering. If your data connection is already "unlimited" then why should you have to pay for it twice?

Re:Extra cost for tethering (1)

sticky_charris (1086041) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254595)

You can actually download a WM6 app that turns your phone into a wireless router. It provides dhcp and wireless security (only WEP) and gives you a 3G data connection. I am with O2 Uk and they tell you not to tether in the contract, but as long as you keep usage sensible they will never know. My sim only contract with 600mins/1200text and unlimited we add-on is £19.75/month.

Re:Extra cost for tethering (1)

mobby_6kl (668092) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254687)

Not to mention that WM can also function as a 3G->WiFi router with a little tweaking or a 3rd party app. Just today the DSL line in my office was down for a bit over an hour, so I whipped out my S730 [htc.com] and set up a hotspot for our little office so that people could get their mail or whatever it is that they do while pretending to work. It wasn't very fast since the area only has EDGE coverage, but everbody was nevertheless overjoyed.

Re:Extra cost for tethering (2, Informative)

Kiaser Zohsay (20134) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254911)

AT&T prices their unlimited data plans according to the internet capabilities of your phone. My HTC (WM6) is $30 a month, while my wife's Sony/Ericsson is only $20. My phone theoretically does tethering (Start | Settings | Connection | Wireless Modem) even though I do not have a tethering plan, but I have not had the opportunity to try it out yet.

It's wrong that.. (5, Insightful)

anilg (961244) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253879)

..a closed platform opening up brings news.. whereas other open (and closed) platforms have had this for a long time. The Apple RDF is strong..

Re:It's wrong that.. (1)

jabithew (1340853) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254123)

It's still news, it's just of an about-friggin-time nature.

Re:It's wrong that.. (1)

DaFallus (805248) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254349)

Its also sad that those open platforms have such shitty marketing, aside from the G1.

pathetic troll, anil. (1)

Artifex (18308) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254435)

..a closed platform opening up brings news.. whereas other open (and closed) platforms have had this for a long time. The Apple RDF is strong..

This is a significant development for many in the the large and growing iPhone userbase. Your claim that because others did it first that it's not newsworthy is just antifanboyism dressed up as open-source cheerleading. Do we not report on China's space program, because the US did it first?

Re:pathetic troll, anil. (1)

anilg (961244) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254717)

Not so much antifanboism as much as a comment on the sad state of the industry. Too bad you didnt see my comment the way I meant it..

Strange...I do that now on AT&T (3, Interesting)

Phoenix (2762) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253945)

I do that on AT&T with a Sony Ericsson W350i. Now I have the unlimited data option on my account and thus there is no charge for the tethering to my laptop with my USB cable.

It shows up in my statement every time I use the service and every bit that passes gets documented in my bill (it's darn thick).

Thus it beggars the question of why Apple hasn't activated the feature on their phone with the only carrier that is *allowed* (AT&T) to use the phone in the United States, when the carrier in question already allows this function on other phones.

Greed? Stupidity? Both?

Phoenix

Hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27253981)

"Thus it beggars the question"

Let me genuflect on why you used this particular word...

Re:Hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27254035)

Quite likely for the same reason that the submitter used the word "dickering".

Re:Strange...I do that now on AT&T (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254081)

Simple. Apple bullied AT&T into offering an "unlimited" data plan so the iPhone could be used to it's fullest extent. Naturally AT&T doesn't want to make it actually unlimited so they limit it -- by not allowing you to use that data on anything but the little screen on your iPhone.

Now I, being in Canada and paying for my very much limited data plan, should be free to do whatever I want with it. But I'm not.

Re:Strange...I do that now on AT&T (0)

tarius8105 (683929) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254243)

Or it could be that the network at the time could not support it, its wasnt 3g at the time. Its also quite possible that tethering was not added in till 3.1.

Re:Strange...I do that now on AT&T (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254341)

The question is WHY tethering wasn't added until now. No, the network couldn't support a bunch of $20 unlimited data plans running wild. It can't now. It never will be able to. That's why it will ALWAYS cost extra for a less limited data plan.

Re:Strange...I do that now on AT&T (1)

wolrahnaes (632574) | more than 5 years ago | (#27255087)

Partially wrong.

All smartphones have unlimited data (or "unlimited" as the case may be) anymore, no matter the provider (in the US at least, your providers in Canada seem to enjoy causing pain to their customers), since that's what users expect. It's not specific to the iPhone nor a result of any Apple bullying.

If you want official full tethering support, you need what AT&T calls "LaptopConnect" for which I pay $50 (note I do not have a smartphone, just a nice 3G phone with tethering support, so the smartphone LaptopConnect might be cheaper)

The assumption is that one can use more bandwidth on a laptop versus a smartphone, so typical usage patterns would see "unlimited" users moving a lot more data if they're allowed to tether.

The lack of tethering support on the iPhone has always been very confusing since they'll gladly sell me any other phone with a tethering plan.

FYI, the three tiers I've typically seen while phone shopping are as follows:

Dumbphone Data - Typically a "walled garden" with minimal full internet access, proxy usage often required, basically built for streaming applications on phones and minimal web access/email with a WAP browser

Smartphone Data - No more walled garden, but officially limited by policy.

Tethering Data - Same as above, but no policy limits on use. Often bandwidth capped around 5GB.

The latter two are provisioned identically on the network side, any differences are in billing. They may also monitor for usage that isn't likely to have come from a phone on the smartphone plan (bittorrent, downloading gigabytes upon gigabytes, etc.).

Re:Strange...I do that now on AT&T (1)

db32 (862117) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254787)

Funny...when I talked to AT&T they said tethering was an extra $30/month. The tethering has nothing to do with Apple other than AT&T screaming at them "Don't you dare let iPhone users tether!"

Incidentally AT&T lies through their damned teeth about this. They explicitly say that any form of tethering is impossible with the iPhone. Yet there are multiple apps for jailbroken phones that allow wifi tethering. There was even one that made it into the official App store until Apple removed it.

Lock Down (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27253951)

I don't own an iphone but it seems like the most restrictive piece of hardware one can purchase. I have the T-Mobile total internet plan add on for $19.99 which includes true unlimited internet with tethering. Works great on my PowerBook G4 and my Nokia N800 both via bluetooth.

AT&T and Verizon are constantly trying to control what you do with the service you pay for. They make you pay an extra tethering fee which is also limited to 5 GB/ month bandwidth.

I was once shopping around for a new service and brought my Nokia E71 and laptop into the AT&T store and said I wanted to be able to tether if I got their service. I showed them how I connected to the internet via bluetooth and they couldn't believe it. They said they couldn't understand how my current service would ever let me do that because they can't track my usage. I told them it was unlimited. When I told them I'd been doing this since 2005 they cried heresy.

The status of cell phones and service in the United States is a joke. No one is willing to pay actual money for decent phones. Americans want free camera phones in exchange for 2 year contracts and money gauging rate plans with extra "fees."

Re:Lock Down (1)

Shakrai (717556) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254021)

I have the T-Mobile total internet plan add on for $19.99 which includes true unlimited internet with tethering. Works great on my PowerBook G4 and my Nokia N800 both via bluetooth.

I love T-Mobile but the sad reality is they are only as nice as they are because their network sucks and good customer service is one way to retain customers. If they ever manage to build out a network that equals Verizon or AT&T it will only be a matter of time before some PHB jackass gets the bright idea to start screwing customers to increase the bottom line.

I had to leave them seven months ago when I moved in with the GF because they had no coverage at her house. Now I'm stuck with Big Red and low and behold -- T-Mobile just activated a tower that covers my new location. *sigh*

Re:Lock Down (2, Interesting)

tkrotchko (124118) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254061)

Carriers only do these kinds of things because we let them. If people simply wouldn't pay the fees, then they'd stop in about 3 months. But too many people gotta have it now, so the carriers are actually *correct* in charging these fees. People will not only take it on the chin, but they'll pay for the privilege of doing so.

Your story, however, reminds me of the Motorola V710 I bought from Verizon about 4-5 years ago. It had bluetooth, but they locked it down so tight it was only useful for Bluetooth hands free. I'm sure you read about all the lawsuits (which came to nothing... Verizon offered to give you a few dollars off a new phone provided you signed up for 2 more years of service. Some deal), but hackers managed to come up with firmware that that enabled many of the profiles.

Thus, the phone became far more useful, although it "cheated" (haha) Verizon of 25 cents every time you snapped a photo, or loaded na mp3 for a ringtone, or use it in a way that they felt you shouldn't. Anyway, long story short, when I'd go into Verizon stores from one end of the country to the other with the phone, the Verizon reps would look at it and say "oh. you have one of *those* phones". And the employees were genuinely bitter and angry that people like myself had loaded the hacked firmware to make the phone useful.

Verizon has gone to much greater lengths in newer phones to prevent people from using their own property.

I'm no longer with Verizon, BTW.

Uh, amazing? (1)

zalle (637380) | more than 5 years ago | (#27253993)

From the comments on the photos: "That's amazing! How did you do it?" - in what sense can his achievement be called amazing? My Nokia N91 is now 3 years old, pretty much fit for the junk yard, and has done this with no hacks required or extra charges from the operator from day 1. And my father's Nokia phones have done this almost a decade ago. Seems to me the real source for amazement are the "features" Apple has implemented. But I guess having an "amazing" interface is worth the price?

Re:Uh, amazing? (1)

Nursie (632944) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254749)

9 years.

That's how long I've been able to do this on other phones. 9 years. And only because I never had a mobile before that.

NOT news.

Fees (1)

nullhero (2983) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254013)

(probably so they can charge more in fees)

I have an iPhone and I have to pay the manditory fee for an all I can eat data plan. Why should I have to pay more? I know...I know...they want more money. But here in the States AT&T could really gain more customers, more $$$, if they included text messaging with the data plan, and just let us connect our computers to the Internet via the phone.

But they are a short-sighted company, rather than gaining customers as fans they nickel and dime us to death!

Re:Fees (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254093)

You've paid the fee for an unlimited-on-a-little-phone-screen plan. You didn't think it was actually unlimited, as in no limits whatsoever, did you?

Re:Fees (1)

nullhero (2983) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254219)

No, not really but I do think it would make good business sense. The more you make your customers happy; the more loyal customers you have. Retention should always be more important to a company from a customer service perspective.

And considering AT&T is the only carrier of the iPhone they kind of have me by the balls. Forced retention.

But, trust me, if the iPhone is ever offered by other carriers then I'm switching in a heart beat. And I'll pay any early termination fees to get away from AT&T.

Re:Fees (1)

CyberSlammer (1459173) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254291)

Good business sense?

You're talking about AT&T!! They don't give a rip about the fact you're using the same data speed through your laptop that you're going through with your phone...they just think that by tethering through with a device you OWN and a data play you pay for they can charge you extra.

They are crooks. Plain and simple.

Re:Fees (1)

ceoyoyo (59147) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254461)

Yes, yes really. When you signed up it would have been specified that your "unlimited" plan included only data accessed on your phone.

It's great to say that making the customer happy should be the most important thing to a company, but you have to keep it reasonable. Do you think AT&T would have happier customers if they restrict tethering on the iPhone, by blocking it or charging extra for it, or if their data network is dead slow or constantly unavailable because of congestion?

AT&T bet that you'd rather have data access just on your phone as opposed to effectively no access at all. They went with the no-tethering-at-all option. Now they're changing their minds and going with the tethering-for-a-fee option. Expect to see some limitations, either caps or restrictions on the type of traffic on those tethering plans as well.

AT&T may be greedy bastards (I fully expect they are), but paying a bit extra for a tethering data plan is perfectly reasonable. You really can't expect to get unlimited wireless Internet for approximately the same price as a wired connection.

Re:Fees (1)

nullhero (2983) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254905)

You really can't expect to get unlimited wireless Internet for approximately the same price as a wired connection.

Why not? If my wired connection costs the same amount as my wireless connection and I can connect multiple computers without an additional fee then why charge me more for my wireless plan to tether my computer to my phone for mostly Internet access?

Of course I agree with you that they probably will put caps on it. But my point is if they lose the exclusivity on the iPhone there are other carriers that would be more than happy to offer better deals for iPhone users. This wildly in the future. (And a simple hallucination on my part.)

While the iPhone has a great UI... (1)

Max Romantschuk (132276) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254015)

It seems sill when my 240â Nokia "Average Joe" 3G phone can do most of what it can and more... Using it as a Bluetooth modem is no issue.

The iPhone is a great phone, but lets face it: It's not that feature-packed or open. It's just a well designed product.

Re:While the iPhone has a great UI... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27254531)

Exactly why I will never buy iPhone even tho it's darn nice-looking. It's the lack of real useful features that kill it for many.

I'm happily using my E-Ten Glofiish for internet sharing to my laptop when I'm not at home and I never considered the usb model functionallity a "cool new feature"...

It's something I have seen on 10yr old phones too! iPhone is only so good if you get caught by apple's advertising machine. They can make 10yr old technology look like something they invented just now!

Who... (0, Troll)

derspankster (1081309) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254023)

seriously GIVES A FUCK?

Enjoy surfing on a 3" screen? (1)

geekmux (1040042) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254513)

Who...seriously GIVES A FUCK?

Apparently, not you. But perhaps there are just a couple of people out there who actually do NOT enjoy trying to surf the 'Net on a 3" screen, no matter how fancy the damn interface is.

I could be wrong here, but the three 19" monitors on my desk and the 42" HD monitor at home says otherwise.

At least you. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27254917)

At least you - otherwise, why post?

PDANet already does it (1)

Juan Rey (233115) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254037)

And you don't have to pay a monthly fee.
PDANet for iPhone [junefabrics.com]

Patience and AT&T... (1)

nweaver (113078) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254187)

I'd imagine the iPhone carriers are paranoid about tethering. When its a few alpha-geeks and their crackberries, no problem.

But when its every tom-dick-and harriet with an iPhone, and a simple one-click "turn on" setup, the bandwidth usage you are talking about is extreme. iPhone users are already so much worse than crackberry users, giving them a link to their computer and you are talking about traffic-in-the-extreme.

Thus, easily expcet it to be a ~$30-40/month option.

Re:Patience and AT&T... (1)

wolrahnaes (632574) | more than 5 years ago | (#27255175)

How's it any easier than other phones? On a WinMo phone you run the internet sharing app. On my SE K850i it's a simple matter of pairing over Bluetooth and saying "connect to network" or plugging in the USB cable and choosing "phone mode" on the phone. In either case, a virtual ethernet port appears on my computer and gets an IP address via DHCP.

WiFi tethering for Android (2, Interesting)

powelly (70306) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254303)

If you have an Android DevPhone or a "rooted" T-Mobile G1 you can use the free application aNetShare [a0soft.com] to tether via WiFi.

(Other wifi tethering applications are available, I have nothing to do with the software, just a happy user)

"smart" phones (1)

BlackCreek (1004083) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254449)

I have a G1. What I really don't get is why on Earth the two 'new' hot phone platforms (iphone & android) screw their costumers like this in order to server better the telcos.

Ok. I do get how they do that. I just wish *someone* would release a phone with out-of-the-box support for tethering and VoIP.

It is amazing how many huge companies seem to be fighting for this market place, and how none seems interested in actually delivering what people want.

Re:"smart" phones (1)

W2k (540424) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254559)

Ok. I do get how they do that. I just wish *someone* would release a phone with out-of-the-box support for tethering and VoIP.

Windows Mobile smartphones and PDAs support tethering out of the box; all the ones I've owned anyway. As for VoIP, depends on what client you wanna use, but Skype has a free WM client and since WM phones usually aren't locked down very hard (being targeted at business users rather than Joe Sixpack) you can just install whatever you need.

Any hope for the reverse of this on the Touch? (1)

BDaniels (13031) | more than 5 years ago | (#27254957)

What I'd like to be able to do is connect to the net from my Touch 2.0, using Bluetooth to access my cellphone. That way I can get online even when there is no Wi-Fi available.

Re:Any hope for the reverse of this on the Touch? (1)

Library Spoff (582122) | more than 5 years ago | (#27255081)

I want the same - touch v2 connected to my Nokia e71.

I'd even jailbreak if that was the only way to do it.

PdaNet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27255107)

They already have PdaNet for the iPhone which has the tethering feature given that it's jailbroken. Oh, and you can connect your computer to your phone without the USB, thus turning your phone into a wireless router. If you want to use this in 3.0 firmware, you will still need to jailbreak your phone to use the tethering feature. So, isn't this just another version of PdaNet?

And? (1)

MortenMW (968289) | more than 5 years ago | (#27255225)

So one can connect to the Internet via the iPhone?
That would be amazing if it was not for the fact that it is and has been possible on phones for a long time.

mo_d down (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27255243)

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