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Battlestar Galactica Hosted At the UN

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the bizarro-world-doesn't-quite-begin dept.

It's funny.  Laugh. 252

TheDopp writes "The United Nations hosted the cast and crew of Battlestar Galactica Tuesday evening in New York. Clips of the show were shown as discussion points during the event, touching on the morality of Suicide Bombers in war, Abortion and the use of torture on enemies of the state. At one point during the event an attendee mentions 'the "Old Man" launched into a passionate speech about casting off the idea of race as a cultural determinant, and said we were one race, the human race. His voice echoed throughout the chamber growing louder until — I kid you not — he was yelling, "So Say We All," and the crowd answered right back. Hell, even I yelled it, I was in the fraking United Nations with Adama, the gods themselves could not have stopped this moment.' The full video of the event is located on the UN website."

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Video (5, Informative)

Imagix (695350) | more than 5 years ago | (#27259855)

RealMedia? People still use RealMedia?

Re:Video (5, Insightful)

Archangel Michael (180766) | more than 5 years ago | (#27259879)

Real Media if FRACKED up.

So say we all?

Re:Video (5, Funny)

pdabbadabba (720526) | more than 5 years ago | (#27259941)

SO SAY WE ALL!

Re:Video (0, Redundant)

mcnazar (1231382) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260215)

SO SAY WE ALL!!

Re:Video (5, Funny)

ptomblin (1378) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260301)

SO SAY ...buffering... WE ...buffering... ALL!

Re:Video (3, Interesting)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260669)

Screw it. THIS is the video [youtube.com] that says it all to me, with regard to world relations. If this doesn't make you smile...nothing will.

Re:Video (1)

Rip Dick (1207150) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261093)

If this doesn't make you smile...nothing will.

I submit this [youtube.com] .

Re:Video (0, Redundant)

ColonelSplendid (1493243) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260675)

SO SAY WE ALL!

Re:Video (1)

mdm-adph (1030332) | more than 5 years ago | (#27259891)

I'd _love_ to watch this, but even VLC wouldn't play it. This is ridiculous.

RealMedia? Seriously?

Re:Video (4, Informative)

marcansoft (727665) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260017)

It's a stupid playlist. Try opening the file as text, copying the first line, and playing it with mplayer:
mplayer rtsp://157.150.195.57:554/ondemand/specialevents/2009/se090317pm.rm?cloakport=80,554,7070

The quality is substantially inferior to YouTube though.

Re:Video (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27260363)

mplayer -playlist http://webcast.un.org/ramgen/ondemand/specialevents/2009/se090317pm.rm

Re:Video (1)

Vu1turEMaN (1270774) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261225)

It's only inferior because some idiot picked horrible quality settings.

I used to love streaming some .rm back in the day, cause it used to have such a high quality to size ratio....

Re:Video (4, Funny)

TheDopp (1504537) | more than 5 years ago | (#27259995)

I'm fairly certain the use of RealMedia by the UN is proof they ignore human rights vi*BUFFERING*olations.

Re:Video (0, Troll)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260885)

I'm pretty sure, they ignore human rights, or they violate them. Not both.

Double negation, BiTCH! ^^

Re:Video (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27261165)

Nah, they don't have the time to care, they areBUFFERING

YOUTUBE version (5, Informative)

DeadDecoy (877617) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260151)

Thankfully youtube saves us all: BSG at UN [youtube.com]

Re:YOUTUBE version (0)

PatrickThomson (712694) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260175)

BUMP

Re:YOUTUBE version (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27260287)

BUMP

BUMP!?!?!?

Dude, go back to your BB world.

Re:YOUTUBE version (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27260421)

Suck my bump you twit.

Re:YOUTUBE version (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27260293)

MOD PARENT UP!

Re:YOUTUBE version (5, Insightful)

Tyr_7BE (461429) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260467)

You know that RealMedia is deeply hated when people are thankful for the posting of a flash version.

Re:Video (1)

Timosch (1212482) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260433)

Evil never perishes from our planet, y'know...

Re:Video (1)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260477)

Give them a break, they UN-nazied the world from Charlie Chaplin's nazi regime and his evil nazi dinosaurs.

Re:Video (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260619)

Computers on the Galactica aren't networked for a reason.

Re:Video (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27260757)

All this have...BUFFERING...before and all this will...BUFFERING...again.

Quick....! (3, Funny)

cayenne8 (626475) | more than 5 years ago | (#27259897)

Someone send in some Cylons!!!

Re:Quick....! (4, Insightful)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 5 years ago | (#27259931)

This is the UN. They'd just put the Cylons in charge of a commission on human rights in the 12 colonies.

Re:Quick....! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27260021)

Who was that UN official with the really attractive blond in the red dress?

Re:Quick....! (1)

ionix5891 (1228718) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261311)

Gaius is that you?

Re:Quick....! (3, Funny)

Vinegar Joe (998110) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260033)

For the UN, that would be a step up.

Re:Quick....! (2, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260759)

Someone must not have told the UN that the first scene of the series involved the betrayal and murder of a diplomat.

amatures (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27259907)

Whoever came up with the format for this "idle" section is the biggest fucking amateur I have ever seen.

This page looks totally broken on Firefox.

You would know that if you weren't a total fucking amateur.

Are you fucking retarded, dude?

How the fuck to you even show something like this to your boss without hanging your head in shame?

How is your boss retarded enough to put this pile of shit on the internet?

Re:amatures (1)

mdm-adph (1030332) | more than 5 years ago | (#27259963)

I'm using Firefox on Windows, as (if my own stats for tech sites show) I'm sure a good 70% of the people browsing this site are, and this page looks fine.

Maybe you should try clearing your cookies.

Re:amatures (1)

macbeth66 (204889) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260145)

I am using IE6 on Windows XP and it is frakin' ugly.

These pages render real crap under IE7 and Firefox.

Re:amatures (1)

ArhcAngel (247594) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260417)

you're browsing without your glasses again aren't you?

P.S.
GOOD GOOGLY MOOGLY! Even the idle comments is screwed up.

Re:amatures (4, Funny)

Cornflake917 (515940) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260425)

Wow, I didn't know Christian Bale visited Slashdot. Can I have your autograph?

Tricky... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27259915)

What is this feeling? Warmth for humanity? Disgust?

Please post this sorta things well past 10pm when I am all nice and sauced.

Bastards made piece with the Cylons (-1, Offtopic)

tjstork (137384) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260019)

I'm still bitter about Col Tigh being a Cylon.

Still bitter.

Curse you, Ronald Moore.

Re:Bastards made piece with the Cylons (4, Funny)

Cornflake917 (515940) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260647)

As someone who is about 3/4 of the way though the 3rd season, all I can say is:

Fuck you, asshole

Re:Bastards made piece with the Cylons (4, Funny)

RabidMoose (746680) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260781)

At least the spoiler he gave isn't that far off for you, only a few more episodes.

Now, you've got about 30 hours to watch 23 episodes + Razor + webisodes before the finale tomorrow night.

Better go get some energy drinks.

Re:Bastards made piece with the Cylons (1)

Ifandbut (1328775) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260959)

That was 2 years ago. In case you are even farther behind here is a few more for you; King Kong dies and Aerith is killed by Sephiroth at the end of disk 1.

Re:Bastards made piece with the Cylons (1)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260987)

I honestly wouldn't worry about it too much. It's not like the writers hint at it, it's really out of the blue. Knowing now won't give you any spoiler insight on what you're watching now.

Re:Bastards made piece with the Cylons (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27261005)

As someone who's eagerly waiting for tomorrow, but still don't want the show to go away, all I can say is:
Frack you and your stupidly slow TV-watching habits.

Really?
You come into a discussion about a show where the finale is just about to air, and you don't expect spoilers?
Frack you!

What's more: Chief Tyrol is a Cylon, Starbuck is a corpse, Sam Anders is a Cylon, Tory Foster's a Cylon, Ellen is also a Cylon.

The final Cylon was "Daniel".
Speculation is he's related to Starbuck.

Earth was wiped out by nuclear war.

More news... (1)

tjstork (137384) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261115)

As someone who is about 3/4 of the way though the 3rd season, all I can say is: Fuck you, asshole

I believe that's Frak You. Also, in case you missed, Darth Vader REALLY IS Luke's father but he is somewhat redeemed by turning against the emperor and saving Luke's life. Meanwhile, the rebels succeed in lowering the planetary shields to the Death Star and successfully assaulting the main reactor. Han's worries about Luke as a rival to Leia's affections turns out to be misplaced, as Luke turns out to be Leia's sister, leaving fans to wonder what exactly the nature of the kiss in the Empire Strikes Back was really all about.

Re:Bastards made piece with the Cylons (2, Informative)

Etrias (1121031) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261079)

You prick. Couldn't have at least had a spoiler warning on your title? I'm less bitter at Ron Moore and very bitter toward you.

That goes for the mod who bumped up your post to "interesting" as well. Frakking idiots.

How could you not know? (1)

tjstork (137384) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261181)

You prick. Couldn't have at least had a spoiler warning on your title...

The episode in question aired like over a year and half ago! That's just crazy...

oh, by the way: spoiler alert.. in Gone With the Wind, the South LOSES the Civil War.. and, in King Kong, a bunch of biplanes shoot up the Gorilla off of the top of the Empire State Building. Darth Vader really is Luke's father. Gandalf really does die by he is sent back as Gandalf the White, with some kick butt new powers as well. Elric kills Moonglum to have strength to blow the horn of fate, and he brings in the new world, and then, Stormbringer kills Elric at the end, saying, Farewell I was a thousand times more evil than thou. Oh, and Jason isn't really killed at the end of Friday the 13th.

I must have dozed off. Did something happen? (0, Troll)

macbeth66 (204889) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260043)

::yawn::

/me shakes head (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27260071)

Seriously? The cast of a fucking space opera gets to address the UN? And the UN listens? Please tell me you're making it up.

Re:/me shakes head (3, Funny)

Evangelion (2145) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260141)

Yeah, they took some time out of their busy schedule of meetings with Bono to host BSG. At least it's a step up.

Re:/me shakes head (1)

sbeckstead (555647) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260967)

You can't make this shit up!

Did they mention (4, Insightful)

MikeRT (947531) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260089)

That the whole story is essentially one 4 season long dissertation on the "wages of sin" and even "generational sin?" The recurring sins of sloth and bigotry finally keep coming back to haunt the human race. Sloth lead to two of the colonies being treated horribly until the Cylons could be created as a worker class. The Cylons eventually realized that they were slaves and revolted, and that pattern has repeated itself at least once already.

In a dark, twisted way, the series is more religious and conservative than the original one. A lot of fans of the original hate that because it's more like a Hobbesian/Calvinist take on human nature, sin, God's judgment, etc. with the human race not being portrayed as noble, but having its own sins come back to haunt it. As a Christian, I find it a very refreshing show in that it has a brutally realistic take on human nature, sin and other factors that are usually ignored by people looking to create a simplistic "good guys in white, bad guys in black" kind of moral dichotomy.

Re:Did they mention (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27260365)

Maybe it's just me but didn't the Cylons in the original series seem not all bad? I seem to remember the cylon leader getting overthrown by another cylon leader with plans to make peace with the Colonials... and giving Baltar command of a whole ship to do it, hence leading to their long term predicament.

Get it right, man! (1)

StefanJ (88986) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260577)

Good guys in tan jackets, bad guys in chrome!

Of course, there were the really good guys who glowed white.

Re:Get it right, man! (2, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260685)

"Good guys in tan jackets"

No one with hair like that could have been called in any way "good."

Re:Did they mention (0)

Yvan256 (722131) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260643)

I thought it was "good guys with Macs, bad guys with Windows PCs".

Re:Did they mention (3, Interesting)

khallow (566160) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260999)

No offense, but I found the moralizing tiresome and contrived. Too many dumb moral lessons like "racism == bad" or "there are no good guys in the world". A lot of random garbage apparently intended to confuse the audience and/or inject a simulation of moral ambiguity, eg, the five hidden cylons.

A common subplot is the cardboard character that has a surprising revelation and turns into a different cardboard character.

My take is that while the new series does have a little more moral depth to it than the old series does, it's not that impressive. Your talk about Hobbesian/Calvinist viewpoint on human nature and "sin" underscores that. This is obsolete morality. People aren't really like that and fundamentally it is a stereotype just as misdirected and limited as the white hat/black hat story you decry.

Re:Did they mention (1)

SupremoMan (912191) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261289)

I don't know where you had the "racism == bad" lesson. If anything the story with the doctor was more of "racism == persistent." And just because you believe/pretend it's not there, doesn't mean it's not. It also shows that if you ignore the warning signs you are complacent.

Hmmm.. Another Hollywood Republican comes out? (0, Troll)

jmorris42 (1458) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260153)

> casting off the idea of race as a cultural determinant..

But I thought we just elected a POTUS almost entirely based on his biracial itentity.

"All Men are Created Equal" is such a dead white men idea I'm suprised he wasn't booed from the stage for pushing such crimethink propaganda. Guess there is some hope for our species after all.

Re:Hmmm.. Another Hollywood Republican comes out? (2, Insightful)

MindlessAutomata (1282944) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260603)

People are too quick to cast off the idea that race doesn't mean anything biologically through ideological lens. It's true that people all deserve the same political treatment, but people are so scared of racial bigotry and eugenics and social darwinism that they sometimes can't see straight. For example, the authors of The Bell Curve were blasted for supposedly being racial bigots, however wrong or right they were, and E. O. Wilson of Sociobiology fame had water thrown on him because the the nuturist bias of many on the left makes them view any innatist viewpoint as being "right-wing" apologetics for racial mistreatment or whatever, which is completely wrongminded. Nature doesn't care about how you think the world is supposed to work.

You argue, however rightly or wrongly, that blacks may have a genetic TENDENCY towards lower IQs (I am not saying this is true, bear with me here) and people blast you, however, you say a minority group (Ashkenazi Jews) may have a heritable tendency towards higher IQs (apparently some study supported this hypothesis) and you don't see people rioting over it. People want "smile science", they want only nice things to be reported and they view publishing any negative or socially inconvenient data to be, well, socially irresponsible, no matter how true it even is. Remember, brain and body are one, as every physical change in the body is heritable so too are any structural changes in the brain which result in expressions of mental capacity and behavioral output.

I am not saying race does play a significant role in intellectual qualities. Clearly, it does play some of a role in some qualities (why all the tall black men in the NBA? Because they're physically built for the sport!) but it is not at all impossible that a race may have a tendency towards lower or higher IQs. And, as I've been sure to mention, this is all genetic tendency; variation among individuals still exists and even in a population with a mean IQ lower than the mean IQ of the average population you can still have IQs above the mean of the overall population.

It's also worth nothing that nature often cares little about the categories we've assigned to things for our human way of thinking. Evolution shows us that "species" is not at all easy to define as we think. A good video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb5OEw_q-II [youtube.com] (made by rather intelligent shanek guy who laboriously fights idiots online. If you're reading this Shane, "Hi!"). The point of this is to show that yes, race is largely a human construct, much like species itself is, but that does not mean it is entirely meaningless. We know some racial groups are more at risk for certain types of disease, for example.

The overall fallacy here is thinking that behavior/mental processes are somehow different from physical one, when behavior itself is a resultant of the physical workings of the brain, and thus some races really could be different from others in a particular way.

That said, Battlestar Galactica is a great show because they don't shove a particular moral conclusion down your throat (insofar that the Cylon vs. Human dynamic is obviously a racial conflict in large part caused by human arrogance and inability to forgive) a lot of the time by making the issues difficult with no clear convenient solution, just as they are in real life, and also making none of the people on the show paragons of human virtue and morality. It doesn't seem to me like any character acts as a Lisa Simpson that serves as a mouthpiece for the writers to evangelize for their position.

Re:Hmmm.. Another Hollywood Republican comes out? (1, Informative)

jedidiah (1196) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260775)

> But I thought we just elected a POTUS almost entirely based on his biracial itentity.

Nope. The republicans managed to find themselves the perfect storm of hubris and arrogance. They managed to screw the pooch badly enough that people got over the fact that the other guy was black.

The hick fundie out-of-touch governor from the great white north was just the icing on the cake and that last push necessary for a lot of people to get over old predjudices.

I have so many mixed feelings (1)

JaimeZX (780523) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260155)

Love the show. Can't believe the cast took center stage at the UN. And Edward James-Adama yelling SO SAY WE ALL?!?!? I want to laugh and cry at the same time.

Wow.

I like this one.... (1)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260169)

Hey, finally a story that matches my sig!! Too bad it has to appear in idle, which sullies everything that it touches by association. :( (and is there any reason the comment box is suddenly appearing small?)

Events like this give me hope, because it is proof that people want to get together and be united, we don't have to have a common 'enemy' in order to make ourselves feel good. The fervor shown at this meeting sounds as great as that at any religious meeting, and it was in favor of everyone being together, realizing we are not different. This is proof that world peace is possible.

I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV (4, Interesting)

Hordeking (1237940) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260183)

Seriously. Why do actors and actresses who pretend to be politicans and soldiers for tv and movies get more influence over "real world" politics like the UN than I do? Does the US constitution even have a sovereignty clause that forbids allowing foreign sovereignty (for instance, by the UN), or is that just an interpretation? I can't find one, but I'm at work (and posting on /., yeah I know)

Re:I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV (4, Insightful)

MoellerPlesset2 (1419023) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260323)

Seriously. Why do actors and actresses who pretend to be politicans and soldiers for tv and movies get more influence over "real world" politics like the UN than I do?

Um, because Slashdot wouldn't have a story on its front page if you were to visit the UN?

Re:I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV (3, Funny)

genner (694963) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260875)

Seriously. Why do actors and actresses who pretend to be politicans and soldiers for tv and movies get more influence over "real world" politics like the UN than I do?

Um, because Slashdot wouldn't have a story on its front page if you were to visit the UN?

Oh I guarantee I would make the news if I visted the UN....which is why they won't invite me.

Re:I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV (1)

qbzzt (11136) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260351)

Why do actors and actresses who pretend to be politicans and soldiers for tv and movies get more influence over "real world" politics like the UN than I do?

Because they look better than you. Seriously, a large part of politics is about PR - and actors are useful for that.

Does the US constitution even have a sovereignty clause that forbids allowing foreign sovereignty (for instance, by the UN), or is that just an interpretation?

The fact that the constitution is the supreme law of the land. This means that no treaty has the power to modify it.

Re:I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27260635)

And the US Constitution says that we abide by all treaties to which we are a party.

Since as a nation we're agreed to be a part of and abide by the rules of the UN, among other things, our constitution says that we have to abide by their rules.

Re:I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV (2, Insightful)

MindlessAutomata (1282944) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260723)

The fact that the constitution is the supreme law of the land. This means that no treaty has the power to modify it.

Theoretically. The document itself has become more and more symbolic over time and it's been less held as "law of the land." It's been used more for political maneuvering among all three branches. That is inevitably what happens when you have a "Living Constitution" interpretation and not a strict "constructionist" one where any changes must be ratified, because you can just claim that your interpretation is the best for the times and thus not have to worry about procedure and dissent. When you're not held to a constant literal meaning of law, then the law simply means whatever the interpreter wants it to mean and whatever they can get away with through that interpretation. And it's not going to be just Bush. Obama will do the same thing, when it suits him or what he wants and believes.

I'm not a preacher, but I play one on TV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27260895)

"That is inevitably what happens when you have a "Living Constitution" interpretation and not a strict "constructionist" one where any changes must be ratified, because you can just claim that your interpretation is the best for the times and thus not have to worry about procedure and dissent"

*Opens up his bible and starts reading.* ;)

Re:I'm not a preacher, but I play one on TV (1)

MindlessAutomata (1282944) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261061)

Haha, oh man, I didn't even think of that, but you are right on the mark.

Re:I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV (1)

jmorris42 (1458) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261085)

> When you're not held to a constant literal meaning of law, then the law simply
> means whatever the interpreter wants it to mean and whatever
> they can get away with through that interpretation.

Or more simply, we exchanged the Rule of Law for the Rule of Men.

Re:I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV (1)

MindlessAutomata (1282944) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261155)

Is that more a good thing or a bad thing?

Re:I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV (2, Interesting)

jmorris42 (1458) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261269)

> Is that more a good thing or a bad thing?

If you have to ask.....

The idea that the Rule of Law had to prevail over the Rule of Men was probably the highest achievement of the Western system of thought. None of the rest is possible to keep without it. It is one of the central ideas encoded in the Arthur legends it goes back so far and is embedded so deep in our culture. It required generations of control over government schools to produce a population clueless enough to renounce that inheritance.

Re:I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV (4, Funny)

BorgCopyeditor (590345) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260607)

Because if you shouted "So say we all," it would sound silly.

When EJO shouts it, people want--no, need--to obey.

Re:I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV (1)

genner (694963) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260899)

Because if you shouted "So say we all," it would sound silly.

When EJO shouts it, people want--no, need--to obey.

Yeah, otherwise you might get a strongly worded letter from them.

Re:I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV (5, Insightful)

Yvanhoe (564877) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260889)

I'm unsure that politicians and soldiers are more qualified. People did not applaud an actor. They applauded a beautiful idea told by a great orator. That is no acting, that is what politics is since the word exists.

Re:I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV (1)

smoker2 (750216) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261193)

mod parent up

Re:I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV (1)

ObiWonKanblomi (320618) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261097)

I know it's not directly tied to your post, but your words immediately got me thinking about Dr. Sanjay Gupta, who is the chief medical correspondent on CNN and was a nominee for US Surgeon General. He's a very well-spoken professional and is not shy about sharing his opinions on medical issues such as universal coverage and embryonic cell research.

Re:I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV (4, Insightful)

Scrameustache (459504) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261169)

Seriously. Why do actors and actresses who pretend to be politicans and soldiers for tv and movies get more influence over "real world" politics like the UN than I do?

Because they have an audience larger than the population of many UN member states. Seriously.

Re:I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27261263)

I blame Ronald Reagan.

Or you could use the power of the internet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27260223)

... and find it on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSFDrOxWCXY

Galaxy Quest anyone? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27260237)

Jason Nesmith: Mathesar, there's no such person as Captain Taggart. My name is Jason Nesmith. I'm an actor. We're all actors.
Sarris: He doesn't understand. Explain as you would a child.
Jason Nesmith: We, uh, we pretended.
[On Malthesar's blank look]
Jason Nesmith: We lied.
Jason Nesmith: I'm not a commander. There's no "National Space Exploration Administration." We don't have a ship.
Mathesar: [looking at TV screen] But there it is...
Jason Nesmith: [gesturing with his fingers] The ship is that big.
Mathesar: But inside, I see many rooms.
Jason Nesmith: You've seen plywood sets that look like the inside. Our beryllium sphere is... is wire with plaster around it. And our digital conveyor is... it's Christmas tree lights. It's a decoration. It's all fake. Just like me.
Mathesar: But why...?
Jason Nesmith: It's difficult to explain. On our planet, we, uh... we pretend to... to entertain. Mathesar, I am so sorry. God, I am so sorry.

Re:Galaxy Quest anyone? (1, Interesting)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260415)

God, I am so sorry.

      I applaud how you move effortlessly from one fiction to the next...

Re:Galaxy Quest anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27260855)

I applaud how you move effortlessly from one fiction to the next...

AC: Dunbal, there's no such person as God. My name is AC. I'm a poser. We're all posers.
Sarris: He doesn't understand. Explain as you would a child.
AC: We, uh, we pretended.
[On Dunbal's blank look]
AC: We lied.
AC: I'm not a saint. There's no "Holy Roman Empire." We don't have a Heaven.
Dunbal: [looking at Bible] But there it is...
AC: [gesturing with his fingers] The book is filled with BS.
Dunbal: But inside, I see many stories.
AC: You've read fictions sets that look like history. Our resurrection is... is a recovery from a bad flu. And our magical wine is... it's wine with water added to it. It's a scam. It's all fake. Just like me.
Dunbal: But why...?
AC: It's difficult to explain. On our planet, we, uh... we pretend to... to believe. Dunbai, I am so sorry. Zeus, I am so sorry.

Sci-Fi Channel Better Have Footed the Whole Bill (0, Flamebait)

mlund (1096699) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260245)

The very possibility of any tax-payer dollars paying for this made me throw up a little bit in my mouth. If the U.N. junketeers want to get their Sci-Fi on they'd better pay out of their own pockets for their own convention badges like everyone else.

Hooray! A bunch of international bureaucrats to have their own sci-fi wank-fest. Yeah, use the U.N. building as a venue for advertising a private company's DVD sales. That's probably the least irresponsible thing the U.N.'s done in a decade ... I wonder if they'd ever consider seriously confronting grave moral and geo-political issues. Perhaps they could invite philosophers, statesmen, and theologians before they brought out the entertainers.

Re:Sci-Fi Channel Better Have Footed the Whole Bil (3, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260809)

The UN never does anything useful anyway. They'd might as well entertain us a little.

Re:Sci-Fi Channel Better Have Footed the Whole Bil (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27260819)

It's SyFy not Sci-Fi, didn't you get the memo? :)

Re:Sci-Fi Channel Better Have Footed the Whole Bil (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27260945)

If the U.N. junketeers want to get their SyFy

Fixed it for you.

Now if only the UN... (5, Funny)

PK Tech Guy (1310715) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260585)

can pass a resolution to stop SciFi from becoming Syfy.

Re:Now if only the UN... (1)

sammyo (166904) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261163)

If they were actually cool and clever the new tag would be

          Very Dynamic

Eh, pointless emantics (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260587)

I watched the clip on youtube and maybe I missed something, but Olmos seems to be making a big deal about a little thing. He claims that race does not equal culture and that the word race has been misapplied to culture to justify the killing of other humans because "you can't kill your own race."

I don't think it makes one iota of difference whether you think the term "race" applies to a group of shared ideals and customs or a set of common chromosomes. People will always come up with a way to portray their enemies as "the other" so as to tap into the human trait of distrust of "the other" and encourage the unthinking masses to attack them. Even within groups of highly similar cultures, as long as there is a dispute each side will come up with a way to dehumanize the other side.

I can't take it (1)

Dripdry (1062282) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260691)

Even after 10 years, RealMedia still buffers and stutters and looks terrible.
Can someone please post a link to teh full 2 hour BSG UN discussion?

Link Please (-1, Redundant)

Dripdry (1062282) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260729)

Even after 10 years RealPlayer stutters and looks terrible.

Does anyone have a link to the full 2 hour discussion that is actually watchable?

Oh, uh, we must be seriously in the shitter . . . (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 5 years ago | (#27260947)

Usually folks tend to turn to religion and mystic stuff, when their whole existence is in total disorder. But the UN looking at a science fiction series for advice?

We're doomed.

Are there any rockets scheduled to leave the Earth real soon? Now I know what motivated that bat on the space shuttle.

Unbelievable... (1)

pottymouth (61296) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261073)

"None of us is as stupid as all of us together"

Wow! A group of pretend space people in the biggest organization of pretend do gooders on the planet.

And the only thing more silly is someone being inspired by it all... Again I say.. Wow...

Ah yes piling on the whitey guilt... (0, Flamebait)

Phizzle (1109923) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261075)

Frakkin irony, a frakkin about-to-be-a-washed-up-has-been actor preaching frakkin racial equality but then pins the racial evils on the white folks... The whitey guild card has been over played, and yet people keep tugging at that scab under the guise of denouncing it. Human beings treated each other differently based on their appearance ages ago, before the concepts of racism have been defined. These days its just an outdated buzzword being milked by politicians and demagogues to distract the people from the real problems facing the humanity.

LIES! Damned dirty LIES!!! (4, Funny)

Murpster (1274988) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261107)

Lorne Greene is dead, so there's no way Adama was just at the UN.

Think now, there is something very, ah, right (4, Insightful)

sammyo (166904) | more than 5 years ago | (#27261141)

It's TV show, it is not how the real world works... oh, wait

It's the UN, it is not how the real world works.

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