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Streaming March Madness On Linux?

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the when-you-can-snatch-this-pebble-from-my-hand dept.

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neersign writes "March Madness is here and NCAA.com is streaming all of the games over the internet for free. The downside is they are using Microsoft technologies to do so. The standard player lists Windows XP/Vista, IE6, and WMP 9 as the base requirements. The High Quality Video Player requires Silverlight 2. So my question is: how would a Linux user be able to work around these requirements and watch the games?"

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Faggots (0, Flamebait)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | more than 5 years ago | (#27262179)

Call them a bunch of faggots for using Microsoft technology. Publicly. Declare whatever it is they're showing to be boring (wtf is march madness?) and take your dollars elsewhere--or to a campaign against them.

Re:Faggots (3, Interesting)

Chabo (880571) | more than 5 years ago | (#27262575)

As unabashedly brutal as his wording was, I think he's absolutely correct. The technologically-oriented community must teach the rest of the world that things like proprietary formats, vendor lock-in, and all of the other various things we rail on about are bad.

A high-profile example like the NCAA, which attracts many "Joe Sixpack" fans across the nation (does anyone outside the US watch basketball?), would be a perfect example of how closed formats hurt the average consumer.

I know Mac users are about as likely as Linux users to watch basketball, but with the recent increased popularity of Macs, wouldn't that be a selling point for open formats? I can't imagine OSX has a good Silverlight implementation. I couldn't even find evidence of Moonlight being ported over.

Re:Faggots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27262647)

It hasn't worked yet. How do you plan to "educate the masses" that what works so easily for them is bad?

Re:Faggots (1, Insightful)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | more than 5 years ago | (#27262989)

you don't. You educate the asshole media companies by calling them assholes. If it's all 5 linux users that care, they'll ignore you; if it's 500 e-mails in one day, they might take notice.

Or you could be like Twitter and talk about how evil Microsoft is in IRC channels and how Slashdot moderation is so unfair.

Re:Faggots (3, Insightful)

Jamie's Nightmare (1410247) | more than 5 years ago | (#27263849)

educate the asshole media companies by calling them assholes.

I suppose you don't see the "pot and kettle" variety of irony in that method. But trust me, most people would see it.

Re:Faggots (2, Informative)

bluefoxlucid (723572) | more than 5 years ago | (#27264097)

Nope, I don't. It's like walking into some dude's trailer when he's beating his wife, and beating him in the face with an empty trash can you found. Don't see the problem here.

Re:Faggots (1)

Macthorpe (960048) | more than 5 years ago | (#27265325)

You don't? Seriously? I suggest you start a train of thought somewhere around How-Would-Beating-Him-Up-Prove-Violence-Solves-Nothing station.

See, you're trying to solve a problem with someone acting anti-socially by acting anti-socially. All you're telling them is that they're going about it the right way, but it's just their implementation that's wrong.

Re:Faggots (1)

Chabo (880571) | more than 5 years ago | (#27269693)

We should also show kidnappers a good example of socially-acceptable behavior by giving them freedom, instead of holding them in an enclosed space against their will. Holding people against their will is what a kidnapper should do, and that's bad, so let's not do that.

Do you really think that you'll be able to talk the guy out of beating his wife? With most violent people I've encountered, the only thing that will deter them from committing more violence is physical prevention. Most people aren't trained in restraint techniques, and don't carry around handcuffs, so beating them into submission is the only available recourse.

Re:Faggots (1)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 5 years ago | (#27262701)

Microsoft has a native Silverlight plug-in for OS X. It's how Netflix was able to include OS X support for their streaming-video service, which is requires the kind of DRM that Silverlight offers.

Re:Faggots (4, Informative)

codemachine (245871) | more than 5 years ago | (#27263027)

SIlverlight 2.0 is only supported on Intel Macs. So any PPC Mac owners are screwed.

So are people with another platform without a Silverlight implementation, such as Linux, BSD, Nintendo Wii, Playstation, your phone, etc...

Re:Faggots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27264267)

Get Virtual Box or VMWare, get a copy of XP, install XP on Virtual Box/VMWare. Install silverlight and the plugin from the NCAA site on the XP desktop, watch and enjoy.

PS you will need to enable Audio for that virtual machine

Re:Faggots (1)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 5 years ago | (#27265581)

Which still kills the argument for Average Joe -- if he's switching to Mac, he's probably switching to a new Intel Mac, not a hand-me-down PPC. Silverlight will work fine, and the anti-DRM speech will get a "what's your point?"

Because ultimately, if the argument is that you can't watch it on the PS3 (running Linux) on your TV, Average Joe will see that as a feature that "they" didn't add, whereas we see it as a basic right they took away.

Re:Faggots (1)

AkumaKuruma (879423) | more than 5 years ago | (#27266957)

look up the Moonlight project. its a Silverlight implementation for *nix that is being partially supported by MS.

Re:Faggots (1)

Chabo (880571) | more than 5 years ago | (#27269717)

From your grand-grandparent:

I couldn't even find evidence of Moonlight being ported over.

Already been discussed.

Re:Faggots (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27262829)

You don't have to be especially smart or sophisticated to buy a Mac (though it helps), so I'm sure there are plenty of Mac owners who are interested in watching this silly little sporting event.

Re:Faggots (1)

mcrbids (148650) | more than 5 years ago | (#27265169)

I can't imagine OSX has a good Silverlight implementation. I couldn't even find evidence of Moonlight being ported over.

I can't either, but that's because I don't have to. I have an Intel Mac Mini, and Silverlight/Netflix works perfectly - so well that I've replaced my cable service with Netflix and Internet TV.

Sad that Linux isn't supported (yet) but I understand that Moonlight is making good progress...

Re:Faggots (3, Informative)

nfsilkey (652484) | more than 5 years ago | (#27267375)

I know Mac users are about as likely as Linux users to watch basketball, but with the recent increased popularity of Macs, wouldn't that be a selling point for open formats? I can't imagine OSX has a good Silverlight implementation. I couldn't even find evidence of Moonlight being ported over.

Wrong. Im a Mac user and I watched about 5 hours of tournament coverage last night (Go Horns!) over the intartubes via http://mmod.ncaa.com/video [ncaa.com] . Silverlight 2 worked like a champ in Firefox 3.0.7 atop OS X 10.5.6. It was pretty slick, and the quality of the stream was fantastic. Blew through over a gigabyte of transfer per hour of streaming. And I watched over the air on my couch. It was great.

Once Silverlight showed up with OS X support several months back, both initial installation and subsequent upgrades 'just freakin worked'.

But I likely wouldnt have had such a good night if I still pimped Ubuntu on a portable ... :/

Re:Faggots (0, Troll)

HellProphet (1045990) | more than 5 years ago | (#27269013)

I laughed, when it told me I needed Windows, Windows Media Player, Internet Explorer.

I want to barrage them with emails saying "So are you saying I cannot view this running Linux, with Totem, Using Firefox?"
O boy what gives. LOL

reverse engineer their website (0, Offtopic)

spotter (5662) | more than 5 years ago | (#27262211)

search deadspin, you'll find my site ;)

Re:reverse engineer their website (1)

spotter (5662) | more than 5 years ago | (#27262249)

and yes, I mean to be a bit obtuse about this. sorry. not hiding it, just not advertising it either.

When my cable modem comes back up, I'm hoping to see if I can figure out how to get the HQ streams working, the streams I'm getting right now are viewable and smooth, but crappy resolution wise.

Yahoo Sports (3, Interesting)

snl2587 (1177409) | more than 5 years ago | (#27262219)

Yahoo typically streams NCAA basketball games, and I've had success with opening the videos with Totem using GStreamer codecs (from the "bad" and "ugly" set, though).

Re:Yahoo Sports (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27262939)

Yahoo Sports links you to the same website, mmod.ncaa.com

Re:Yahoo Sports (0, Offtopic)

donaldm (919619) | more than 5 years ago | (#27266071)

March Madness is here and NCAA.com is streaming all of the games over the internet for free. The downside is they are using Microsoft technologies to do so

Has anyone asked if the games play on under MS Windows or as they are known "Games for Windows"? If this is the case then for the Linux user assuming you could download the game you would have to use a MS Windows emulator such as Wine. I think the average Linux user should ask if they are really that interested in playing these games since it is not native to Linux but even if you could download it you have to ask the question do I like sport games? Some people do some people don't.

Basically like it or not Microsoft really commands the game market on PC's although it never ceases to amaze me that there are many millions of Linux users in the world and most likely as many as some of the consoles on the market today and yet these consoles have hundreds of games available for them. To me it seems that most PC games developers don't seem to care for the millions of Linux users which does actually translate to lost sales. If a company was brave enough to make native games for Linux they could also make a good deal of money as well. Of course they could loose as well but that is the chance you take and this equally applies to MS Windows and console games as well. If consoles are anything to go by then one to five million game sales (depends on the game) can actually make a profit and there are enough Linux users in the world to support this.

At the moment there does not appear to be many innovative game developers, most are quite happy to bring out instalments 2, 3, 4, 5 etc of a so called franchise. You know who I am talking about. I know this type of approach makes money and in some respects I can't blame the developer since they are in the business of making money so in many respects it is the buyers fault for being happy with this. Some franchises can be well worth waiting for but many are really just an add on and an incremental add on at that still it appears many people like this.

Finishing my console rant, my attitude to Linux gaming is if a game company can't make a native Linux game then they have just lost a possible customer. The loss of one customer is nothing and why should any company care, but millions? IMHO these companies are either drinking the Microsoft cool-aid or they are being subtlety threatened. Quickly puts back on anti Microsoft tinfoil hat :)

Re:Yahoo Sports (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27266295)

So when will you come back to rant about either basketball, video streaming, or silverlight?

Re:Yahoo Sports (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27266809)

You do realize that they're talking about WATCHING March Madness games, right? March Madness is the nickname for the annual NCAA men's basketball tournament. No one is talking about playing games, consoles, etc. Not sure where the hell you got that idea.

Re:Yahoo Sports (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27267583)

Lol. I thought my dad was the king of missing the point, but you've claimed the crown. I salute you.

no fags allowed! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27262231)

get your faggot linux the fuck off our game. you fucking homos should just die and we'd hear no more of you or your faggot linux. go suck a dick.

Re:no fags allowed! (0, Offtopic)

osiris247 (1178517) | more than 5 years ago | (#27262377)

get your faggot linux the fuck off our game. you fucking homos should just die and we'd hear no more of you or your faggot linux. go suck a dick.

For the record, the next time you enjoy your Tivo, your using linux. Hope you like the taste of cock meat.

Re:no fags allowed! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27262767)

i don't use tivo, bitch. so suck it!

bwaahahahaha! i know where the linux fag disease is. i won't have it in my home. i reject everything linux.

Re:no fags allowed! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27263187)

You just posted to /., you used Linux

Re:no fags allowed! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27265487)

Your Linux trolling is redolent of teh fail. Stay with sports fans trying to look down on people for having active sex lives, that part's funny.

Re:no fags allowed! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27264253)

Shut the fuck up, nigger.

Nobody give a shit about a bunch of goddamn overgrown apes ballerina-dancing and hee-hawin' a faggot's ball game played in underwear.

One could only imagine the nigger-stench in those packed gyms at halftime, though it might be worth it if some unruly niggers cause a riot like Ron Artest did as shown here [google.com] .

If you could make it work under Linux (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27262303)

Then you would be watching sports which would make you not a Linux user.

*computer explodes from the incongruity*

How about Moonlight? (2, Funny)

doas777 (1138627) | more than 5 years ago | (#27262333)

it's my understanding that moonlight is supposed to fill that gap.
http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/05/15/moonlight-release-puts-Silverlight-on-Linux_1.html [infoworld.com]

Re:How about Moonlight? (1)

CannonballHead (842625) | more than 5 years ago | (#27262391)

Almost.

Currently support for Silverlight 2.0 is in pre-Alpha stage, but if you want to test it, or contribute to the code, you will need to: ...

Re:How about Moonlight? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27262537)

.. sacrifice a kitten .. sacrifice a small african village to the gates foundation medical grant receivers .. shove a blunt object up your nostril

Re:How about Moonlight? (1)

Protocron (611778) | more than 5 years ago | (#27262713)

Last I read, Moonlight support for those specific features aren't available until Q3 this year.
That said, you might try the Moonlight that let everybody stream the presidents inauguration address. I doubt it will work, but it's worth a try.
http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ [go-mono.com]

Re:How about Moonlight? (1)

mike_sucks (55259) | more than 5 years ago | (#27264687)

Of course, this is why Mono's support of the .NET APIs in general, and Moonlight in particular, is bad for Linux: it is encouraging services to deploy Windows-specific technologies under the guise that it's actually "cross platform".

Mono is a nice VM and C# is a reasonable language, but they should stick to implementing Free APIs, like Qt and GTK+.

/Mike

Re:How about Moonlight? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27267607)

Uh, where on this March Madness website does it say they chose Silverlight because it was cross-platform?

You are an idiot. Man web developers are going to use whatever tools they feel like, whether it is cross platform or not. That is exactly why Moonlight is so important.

VirtualBox (3, Informative)

Protocron (611778) | more than 5 years ago | (#27262669)

Download VirtualBox

http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads [virtualbox.org]

Install a version of Windows XP. If you don't have one find a torrent... cough cough blackxp cough.

Watch March Madness on Windows on Linux.

For the record, I don't watch sports, so I don't know that it work. That said, I have watched Netflix (uses Silverlight) on a licensed Windows in Virtualbox on Ubuntu.

Re:VirtualBox (1)

shentino (1139071) | more than 5 years ago | (#27263157)

and you're sure that going through a VM-VMM boundary won't slow things down?

Re:VirtualBox (2, Informative)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#27264787)

On x86, it shouldn't. They all have 2d acceleration (on hardware level) which covers the acceleration features a video player would need too.

What matters is RAM. XP should run on at least 768/1GB RAM and Linux overhead must be calculated along with it. It should be prevented from swapping (real swapping, not tactical one). The ''Virtual GPU'' should have 16 or 32MB of RAM too.

Another thing is, if CPU has virtual machine acceleration, it should be enabled (disabled by default).

Sun's Virtualbox comes with _very_ conservative settings, at least on a Mactel OS/X.

One thing bugs me is... The DRM layer. Even some software (e.g. Symantec Home) are coded in a way that they will reject to run on Virtual machines. I guess site must have a test clip so it should be tested.

Re:VirtualBox (0, Redundant)

westyvw (653833) | more than 5 years ago | (#27264533)

I hate that idea. I really do. I don't want to support it, not even in a backdoor method. I want web standards, not another flash player, and particularly nothing from Microsoft. That said, a VM with Windows is better then installing it on a drive anyways. There is no slow down, and once the computer is set up the way you want it, take a snapshot. No need for antivirus or spyware tools.

Re:VirtualBox (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27267409)

It does work. I watched the Memphis game yesterday in VirtualBox on Ubuntu 8.1 32-bit. The video and audio were great except for a few hickups in the audio every 10 minutes or so. My video was actually working better than my friends video in a regular install of XP.

Gibberish! (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27262739)

What is this 'bas-ket ball' you speak of?

That's not a bug, it's a feature (3, Insightful)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 5 years ago | (#27262765)

Given the fact that this is Sports, I suspect you'll find that using a closed, proprietary technology was spec'ed as a business requirement for this. The streams are probably wrapped in some kind of DRM, which is something that (as a practical matter) you'll only get by going with a single-vendor solution.

Re:That's not a bug, it's a feature (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27263547)

Here is the deal...Everything is dependent on Silverlight 2.0. You can't access the "normal" or "HD" stream without it. As far as I'm aware the SVN Moonlight code still only supports up to Silverlight 1.0 specs. In other words, we are shit out of luck...

Re:That's not a bug, it's a feature (1)

AlexBirch (1137019) | more than 5 years ago | (#27263987)

Can someone sue?
They don't stipulate in the fine print that you need Silverlight 2.0.

Re:That's not a bug, it's a feature (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27264697)

Um... They don't stipulate that you need electricity either. What on earth would you sue over... failing to teach you what a lawsuit is?

Re:That's not a bug, it's a feature (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27265513)

They don't stipulate that you need electricity either.

False analogy. Electricity is not proprietary and is a reasonable expectation. Silverlight is proprietary and is not a reasonable expectation.

Telling the situation and solution? (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#27264757)

Well, a company named Real Networks ships a fully supported Linux player and you see the feedback they get. I don't know if they can DRM on Linux, on OS X and Symbian they can.

He will probably accept 10s of MS patents in process, have a Mono framework but he will likely watch it with that Moonlight thingie. It is not evil right?

MS missed a huge opportunity by not shipping official Silverlight 2 to Linux and PPC/OS X right from Microsoft.com. Some could really believe they have changed their 1990s model. If they have managed to ship a 64bit player for Linux before Adobe did, imagine the feedback they would get.

They spend their money and power to bribe the low ethics ''sports'' admins and suits instead. It is the 1990s for you, ''Watch it with our exclusive (insert dead dotcom codec) technology!''. H264 and MPEG4 SP and even simple http streaming took over, it is only MS not admitting it. Even Real moved to AAC (plus) and some variant of h264 in rv10.

Re:Telling the situation and solution? (2, Insightful)

SanityInAnarchy (655584) | more than 5 years ago | (#27265623)

Well, a company named Real Networks ships a fully supported Linux player and you see the feedback they get.

Mostly because RealPlayer absolutely sucks, on any platform. It's cool that they ship a Linux player, but it's still not something I want.

Kind of like how MySpace probably works well on Firefox. Great, I can use it on Linux, but I still really don't like it.

H264 and MPEG4 SP and even simple http streaming took over, it is only MS not admitting it. Even Real moved to AAC (plus) and some variant of h264 in rv10.

Firstly: It's actually between these and WMV.

Second: While h.264 and aac support is generally better than the latest wmv (or vc-1) and the latest wma codecs, keep in mind that all of these are exactly as proprietary, and exactly as patent-laden.

So, if you really want to be open, put theora and vorbis in either ogm or matroska.

Finally: All of this is really quite irrelevant. It's not the codec, it's the encapsulation. In this case, they are likely wrapping vanilla vc-1 and wma9 (or whatever) in a wmv container, and encrypting that. While I agree that it's the 90's again, they aren't even trying to hide that they have the content, and you need to install the software to get the content. They're not even trying to sell it to the consumer as being cool or innovative -- as far as I can tell, they try to sell Silverlight to developers, and then try to sell the finished Silverlight product to users.

Re:Telling the situation and solution? (1)

spotter (5662) | more than 5 years ago | (#27268227)

wrong, they are not encrypting anything. if you can figure out how to get to the streams, they play fine in mplayer, vlc and totem-xine (albiet not totem-gstreamer, as no support for windows media audio v3).

and yes, I have figured out how to get to the streams. someone even posted my setup to this thread already.

Forget about their crappy online stream (1)

lordtoran (1063300) | more than 5 years ago | (#27262949)

Just watch it on TV. And tell them you are forced to do that because you cannot watch the games your non-Windows computer, your smartphone, your Playstation etc.

Re:Forget about their crappy online stream (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27263013)

Perhaps she doesn't have a TV.

Re:Forget about their crappy online stream (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27263021)

actually, I'm watching it on my linux laptop and my palm treo :)

Re:Forget about their crappy online stream (1)

MightyYar (622222) | more than 5 years ago | (#27263071)

Seems kind of silly to subscribe to cable for just one month and just one sport.

A better suggestion is to take that $125 installation fee and $80 for the month and pay off your bar tab at the local sports bar :) The games are more fun there than hunched over a Linux laptop...

Mega March Madness has all games on direct tv and (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 5 years ago | (#27264371)

Mega March Madness has all games on direct tv and some bars are likely to have it.

You have no idea what you're talking about (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27263481)

The entire point to doing this is because CBS' coverage rotates amongst all the games unless you're in the major market of one of the teams and in that case you only get that game.

The bottom line is their coverage sucks. The solution to this is to watch online. Thus, we're back at the problem presented in the summary.

It worked last year (2, Interesting)

steltho (1121605) | more than 5 years ago | (#27263193)

I was able to watch the games online last year using the mediaplayerconnectivity plugin for firefox and vlc. I tried this year, but they block all non-IE browsers from accessing the video streams. I was able to get past this check by using the UserAgentSwitcher plugin, but now it won't let me get to the streams because I don't have windows media player.

so, vlc (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27263497)

...needs some sort of user player spoofer plug in?

Re:It worked last year (1)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 5 years ago | (#27264637)

I succumbed today and downloaded Silverlight 2 at work today so I could watch the games in high quality. Worked in Firefox, but I felt a little dirty.

digital broadcast (2, Informative)

Molochi (555357) | more than 5 years ago | (#27263493)

Kinda off topic but in Atlanta the CBS affiliate has activated OTA digital channel 46-2 as NCAA CBS. Sadly quality is only 480i (the game on 46-1 is in 1080i) but it's there to watch. I'm wondering if NCAA CBS is a national addition to the OTA Digital lineup?

MOD Parent up (1)

keithpreston (865880) | more than 5 years ago | (#27263819)

Where are the mod points when I need them. Thanks Molochi, you just doubled my Tournament coverage. My 768k internet just doesn't stream well, but my 12ft antenna picks up High Quality Basketball. The second channel is in 480i, but that is mostly because if they wanted two HD feeds they would have to turn down the bitrate and that would annoying the 99% of people watching the main channel.

Re:MOD Parent up (1)

leenks (906881) | more than 5 years ago | (#27264005)

That doesn't seem to bother Sky in the UK - where sports are a fuzzy mess of mpeg artifacts. Yummy.

Yay for consumerism (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27263569)

Oh hooray, we're back to the the "my $SERVICE_PROVIDER doesn't give me what I want, when I want it, for the price I want to pay for it and in the format I desire, so breaking the law by contravening the DRM is absolutely justified" school of thought.

Works great in OS X (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27263779)

Does Silverlight not work in Linux? The streams run & look great in Mac OSX in both Firefox & Safari.

Screw them (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27263837)

If you can put up with a bit of a delay, download the games you want to see later from the usenet (posted in HD 720p, mkv), and watch them on the system of your choice at your leisure. That's what I'm going to do. To h-e-double-hockysticks with the NCAA if they want to kowtow to Microsludge

IEs4Linux is one solution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27263865)

I'd say try it at least, not bullet proof but works most of the time.

I have to use it to access my local bank's website which doesn't work with FF :(

Anyone try Moonlight? (2, Interesting)

benwaggoner (513209) | more than 5 years ago | (#27263947)

I'd be curious to hear how well it works.

Their Silverlight 2 support's in alpha now, targeting beta in May and final in September.
http://www.mono-project.com/MoonlightRoadmap [mono-project.com]

Less than 11 months until the Vancouver WInter Olympics in Silverlight! I'm sure they'd appreciate any help in their Hackathon:

http://www.mono-project.com/Moonlight2Hacking [mono-project.com]

Re:Anyone try Moonlight? (1)

im_thatoneguy (819432) | more than 5 years ago | (#27264813)

Their Silverlight 2 support's in alpha now, targeting beta in May and final in September

Just in time for September Madness!

Re:Anyone try Moonlight? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27264953)

I did but the taxman didn't like it.

Fuck Micro$oft and anything they touch.

But Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27263991)

I'm no big fan of basketball, so its no big deal to me. If they wanted to stream this to everyone on the internet, they would have done so. Either someone was being an incompetent boob when they did this, or they went out of their way to be a pain in the ass. Certainly mickeysoft would have been cheerful to cut you off (they go far far out of their way to do this at every opportunity). In a case like this, when its streaming entertainment, its only really annoying (but you won't die). When the US department of disaster services or whatever immediately after the disaster in New Orleans, keeping to mickeysofts locked-in, us-only formats meant people did die. For that, its a pity that mickeysoft and the US government were not held criminally responsible.

FTC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27264043)

Complain to the FTC en-masse so they force Microsoft to make a version of Silverlight for Linux?

Seems to me that Microsoft have just won the desktop war, for the next ten years, thanks to more shitty proprietary format lock-in.

Ooo, Ooo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27264173)

I know, why don't you use Windows - I hear Silverlight and other Microsoft applications tend to work pretty well with that particular OS

Hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27264237)

Buy a copy of Windows, ya cheap-skate!

Re:Hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27265133)

Unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful.

VirtualBox (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27264283)

Get virtualbox (free) and install Windows Beta 7 (free) & Silverlight - job done.

Cheating, I guess - but it'll work.

FYI - Hardware acceleration only appears to work with 32-bit guest OS's at the present time.

Re:VirtualBox (1)

Alex Belits (437) | more than 5 years ago | (#27264509)

You forgot to mention that it would require buying Windows to run in virtualbox.

Re:VirtualBox (1)

MortenMW (968289) | more than 5 years ago | (#27265901)

What is this buying you are talking about? Do you mean sponsoring TPB?

Re:VirtualBox (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27266249)

No - Windows Beta 7 is free. The license keys are free. No vista required. It SAYS it's not standalone, just select "Custom Install" and it will start from scratch.

Granted, Beta 7 will only work up till July before acting up, but hey - 4 months will do a lot of NCAA.

Erm, what? (0)

Gordonjcp (186804) | more than 5 years ago | (#27264343)

For the benefit of the 90-odd percent of Internet users *not* in the US, wtf is "March Madness" and NCAA.com? The site is slashdotted, or broken, or something.

Re:Erm, what? (1)

grassy_knoll (412409) | more than 5 years ago | (#27264499)

Try the all-knowing wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Men's_Division_I_Basketball_Championship [wikipedia.org]

The NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Championship is a single elimination tournament held each spring featuring 65[1] college basketball teams in the United States. This tournament, organized by the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA), was first developed by the National Association of Basketball Coaches in 1939 and was the brainchild of Kansas coach Phog Allen[2][3] The NCAA would take over the tournament the following season. Colloquially known as March Madness (as the tournament takes place mainly during the month of March) or the Big Dance (as opposed to the now smaller and less prestigious NIT), the tournament takes place over three weeks at sites across the United States, and the national semifinals (the Final Four) have become one of the nation's most prominent sporting events.

Works on my dad's Intel Imac with Silverlight (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27265263)

Works fine on my dad's Intel Imac with Silverlight on Safari. I imagine it would work fine with Moonlight under Ubuntu, but I am not near my machine to test it or poke around with it.

Bootup (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27265545)

Complain, complain, complain. File bug reports people.

not a sports fan... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27265643)

I also refuse to install silverlight, because I do not want Microsoft gaining control of Internet multimedia. Flash is acceptable because it isn't developed by a rival OS manufacturer who has a history of shady tactics.

      For me, it's not about demanding free software, it's about refusing to adopt technology that is under the control of an enemy.

How about this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27266131)

Turn on the TV. This is one of those annoying Linux questions. Here's another, Q: I can't get "Y" to work on Linux?, A: boot into windows or OSX. This has been another addition of basic Linux problem solving.

Justin.TV (1)

Nishi-no-wan (146508) | more than 5 years ago | (#27266337)

Try Justin.TV Sports [justin.tv] . That's how many expats get sports from their home countries while away. It's also a great resource for getting sports (and other programming) not generally available in your own country.

This works on Macs (Intel and Power). I thought it worked on Linux with the latest Flash plugin, but I've had one Linux user tell me that it didn't. (Then again, I don't know what version of Flash he was using.) Please give it a try and report back what happens on Linux. I'd like to know for sure myself.

forgot about that little bit (2, Insightful)

nimbius (983462) | more than 5 years ago | (#27266523)

that states "express written consent of the NCAA and the -insert major network here-" thanks to lock-ins, black-outs, exclusivity rights, and licensing agreements, and the crushing monopoly the NCAA maintains on their franchise, what led anyone to expect they would allow people to watch the game in any other format but one of the most coontrolled and restrictive? if this were PBS it might be news for nerds on some level, but this highlights a greater problem with monopolistic entertainment industries.

NCAA.com is not the only site streaming the video (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27267187)

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10200699-93.html

How does DRM-free 1080i in MPEG-2 sound? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27269181)

All you need is an antenna and a TV-tuner, and you can receive many games free over the air via local CBS affiliates. (No $h17light required) In many cities, the local CBS affiliates are running additional subchannels (rescan if you don't see 'em) to carry additional simultaneous games.

If you have digital cable, your cable company may be providing NCAA feeds too.

Use Virtualization (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27269725)

You can install a some virtual ware (Sun's VirtualBox or VMWare), install a MS client and then stream the content. It's how I get radio at work.

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