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Review of GNOME 2.26 and GTK+ 2.16

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the small-improvements-add-up dept.

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devg writes "The GNOME development community recently announced the official release GNOME 2.26, the latest version of the open source desktop environment for Linux. It adds the Brasero disc burning software, UPnP support in the Totem media player, and basic support for video chat in the Empathy instant messaging client. GNOME 2.26 will be shipped in upcoming Linux distributions, including Fedora 11 and Ubuntu 9.04. Some early reviews show that it is an incremental improvement with some good additions. GNOME 2.26 is accompanied by the release of GTK+ 2.16, a new version of the widget toolkit that is used to build the desktop environment. Ars Technica has published a detailed programming tutorial with code examples that demonstrate how developers can use the new features of GTK+ 2.16 in their own applications. Users can test GNOME 2.26 by downloading one of the official Foresight-based VM or ISO images via BitTorrent."

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Anonymous Coward (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27322259)

Giggles!

Re:Anonymous Coward (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27322535)

Linux just isn't ready for the desktop yet. It may be ready for the web servers that you nerds use to distribute your TRON fanzines and personal Dungeons and Dragons web-sights across the world wide web, but the average computer user isn't going to spend months learning how to use a CLI and then hours compiling packages so that they can get a workable graphic interface to check their mail with, especially not when they already have a Windows machine that does its job perfectly well and is backed by a major corporation, as opposed to Linux which is only supported by a few unemployed nerds living in their mother's basement somewhere. The last thing I want is a level 5 dwarf (haha) providing me my OS.

Re:Anonymous Coward (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27322801)

I agree. Until the driver issue is addressed, OSX and Windows are the clear choice. I can't spend 5 hours(and no troll, I really did once) trying to get my printer to work. CUPS!!!!!!! (As in "KHAN!!!!!!")

It's getting better, yeah, but... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323605)

Honestly, who in their right mind would want to use a desktop with a smelly foot sitting on it?

Wait... (-1, Flamebait)

gbarules2999 (1440265) | more than 5 years ago | (#27322265)

...GNOME, with an incremental, evolutionary-rather-than-revolutionary upgrade? Seriously, what was the point of those reviews? Is someone actually surprised by this?

Re:Wait... (3, Insightful)

erikina (1112587) | more than 5 years ago | (#27322397)

They're nice. Especially as someone who use KDE, it allows me to easily see what's happening in that part of the world.

Re:Wait... (1)

gbarules2999 (1440265) | more than 5 years ago | (#27322557)

There's not a whole lot to critically analyze here - I've been using Ubuntu 9.04 Alpha and haven't really noticed any major changes, and that's the entire point (Though the Exchange stuff is nice, I must admit, just not for me). Sure, you can list the features, I suppose, but I don't see how anyone's going to come up with a conclusion that's any different than what the summary stated.

Re:Wait... (5, Insightful)

lordtoran (1063300) | more than 5 years ago | (#27322869)

And I'm anticipating similar functionality appearing in Kontact really soon... this sort of friendly competition makes Open Source progress so fast.

My Quick Review... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27324171)

...It sucks. Just get a Mac already.

Re:Wait... (1)

Yamamato (1513927) | more than 5 years ago | (#27325119)

You expected a minor version change to have revolutionary changes?

Re:Wait... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27325901)

No, but I didn't expect a minor point release to have an in-depth review on the front page of a major technology news site.

Exchange support? (4, Interesting)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 5 years ago | (#27322321)

From the changelog:

Second is support for Microsoft Exchange's MAPI protocol. This is the protocol that Microsoft Outlook uses to communicate with Exchange. Previously, Evolution only supported Exchange's SOAP protocol, which is not available on all Exchange servers. This support significantly improves Evolution's integration with Exchange servers.

That sounds like a big deal. Anyone knows how well it actually works in practice?

Shouldn't you all be watching... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27322437)

Barack "Teleprompter" "Uncle Tom" Hussein Obama try in vain to prop up his sagging poll numbers tonight? It's alot harder of a job than it looks from the sidelines, isn't it, you inexperienced, incompetent, corrupt motherfucker?

Re:Shouldn't you all be watching... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27322627)

Shouldn't you all be watching...
Barack "Teleprompter" "Uncle Tom" Hussein Obama try in vain to prop up his sagging poll numbers tonight?

As Slashdot is an international site, and I don't give two hoots about Barack Obama, the answer is 'no'.

I can comprehensively say that I, and I'm sure many others on Slashdot, find a new GNOME release -- particularly one with MAPI support -- far more interesting than the economy of the US. Now take your trolling somewhere people care about such things, one of those right-wing sites for example.

Re:Shouldn't you all be watching... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323411)

You cared enough to reply. Thanks for playing, faggot.

Re:Shouldn't you all be watching... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27324355)

Nice try cockweasel. Now let me spell it out for you, so simply that even a fucking retard half-man, half-ape, cunt muscle like you can understand:

I don't care about Uncle Obama making some speech.

I do care about a twat trolling Slashdot.

Now fuck off. You cunt.

Re:Shouldn't you all be watching... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27324449)

For someone who supposedly doesn't care, you sure seem awfully angry. Did your father dip his cock in a can of lard before dipping it in your ass this morning?

Re:Shouldn't you all be watching... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27325543)

You fail at reading comprehension.

Did your father dip his cock in a can of lard before dipping it in your ass this morning?

My dad's dead.

My old man was a dustman,
He wore a dustman's hat,
He got fucking cancer,
Now what do you think of that

My old man was a dustman,
He had cancer too,
Silly fucking arsehole,
He had it up the flue

He had so much fucking cancer,
It drove me fucking mad,
He said "I've got fucking cancer",
And he was my fucking dad

Oh, what a boring cunt he was,
Going on all day,
About having cancer,
And being too gone on the way

Ohhhhhhh ... he had ...
Cancer in his false teeth,
Cancer in his wig,
Cancer in his fucking knob,
He thought it was fucking big
His knob was full of cancer,
The thing nearly fell off
And worst of all, the worst of it, he had this fucking cough! He went:

Heurgh! Heurgh!
Heurgh! Heurgh!
Heurgh! Heurgh!
Heurgh! Heurgh!
Heurrrrrgghhhhh ...

What a cunt! He kept waking us up at night, this fucking noise! This fucking cough, his fucking cancer! For months we couldn't fucking sleep! I was trying to watch Emmerdale Farm and this fucking cough came on and I couldn't fucking concentrate on a fucking good programme because my old man was dying of this fucking cough ...

What a Fucking cunt!!!

I win. Now fuck off. You cunt.

Re:Shouldn't you all be watching... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27324557)

Mr. Coward, Lim's called at 2. Your hood's ready.

Re:Where'd he come from? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323575)

Barack "Teleprompter" "Uncle Tom" Hussein Obama

Dare I ask, what the President of U.S. has to do GNOME or even GNU/Linux in general?

Re:Where'd he come from? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323753)

Obama uses UBUNTU and GNOME because it reminds him of his roots and his heritage.

Re:Where'd he come from? (1)

DavoMan (759653) | more than 5 years ago | (#27325749)

This is the best off-topic thread I've seen all week.

Re:Where'd he come from? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27326075)

That is only because

Bite out of apple sales

Apple might still make the coolest computers on the block but it is struggling in the face of global recession as consumers opt for cheaper alternatives. Mac sales fell 16 per cent year-on-year in February, according to research firm NPD Group. Sales of PCs, meanwhile, increased 22 per cent in the same period thanks to a boost in sales of cheap, lightweight notebooks.

  which was from a newspaper which does not have an IT section but an Apple cheerleading squad was rejected from the story where Ballmer correctly called Apple a $500 logo.

In short /. will let that through but not something that says Apple sales are declining.

Re:Exchange support? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323235)

This is a feature I've been looking forward to for a while. Since my company moved to Exchange 2007 I've been totally unable to sync to my email server. Even simple messages without calendar would be a plus, but I've read on openmapi mailing lists that full calender and email sync is possible with openmapi. Hopefully we'll see more evidence arise as time goes on.

PS, THANK YOU to any opemapi / GNOME devs reading this for doing all this work and making my life easier. You are appreciated massively.

Re:Exchange support? (1)

duguk (589689) | more than 5 years ago | (#27323299)

<snip>... Microsoft Outlook ...<snip>

<snip>... Anyone knows how well it actually works in practice?

I'll guess not very well? :o)

Re:Exchange support? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323301)

Pretty much everything works since about October last year. This makes Evolution a good LookOut replacement on Exchange servers.

However, the best solution is to replace Exchange itself with something like Citadel. You can literally replace dozens of Exchange servers with a single Citadel server.

Not Citadel!!! :( (1)

Sp4c3 C4d3t (607082) | more than 5 years ago | (#27324333)

Citadel is obviously a modified BBS program. I tried it on a company server, and it just wouldn't work out. Configuring it is a pain in the ass, and nothing really makes sense. It doesn't integrate well with OpenLDAP either. I suggest using SOGo [scalableogo.org] with postfix and dovecot. Makes a very nice Exchange replacement.

Re:Exchange support? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323405)

Honestly, my experience with Evolution and Exchange have not been good at all.

It's like a lot of things Senor Miguel works on. A half ass knock off of a Microsoft product.

Why he does this, I'll never know.

Re:Exchange support? (4, Informative)

romi (80701) | more than 5 years ago | (#27323493)

Not well at all.

The official 2.26.0 "release" of evolution-mapi had a small bug whereby it would crash immediately upon trying to connect to anything.

2.26.0.1 fixes one of the various issues contributing to that, but there are other changes needed in other libraries and Ubuntu has yet to pick those changes up.

It's quite amusing to see this trumpeted everywhere though given that anyone who actually tries to use it is in for a world of hurt.

Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27322325)

Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports

- This just in, March 23 2009 Chinas central bank on Monday proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund [ft.com]

- Russia too: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read. [en.rian.ru]

- President Barak "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption, Rahm Emanuel (Radical authoritarian Statist whose father was part of the Murderous Civilian Killing Israeli Terrorist Organization known as IRGUN), Connected to Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat), Connected to Ayers, a man who promotes the concept that civilian collateral damage is ok in a war against freedom, Preacher Jeremiah Wright, who is himself a black-elitist who wants all the people who largely "pay the freight" to suffer, 31 million on food stamps, more blacks are in prison and on food-stamps per capita than anyone else. The problem with Wright is simply this: the facts are "racist."
- Obama: Racist, AIPAC-bootlicker, Corrupted to the bone Chicago style and a Traitor to the US Constitution and a Liar whose real "legal" name could very well be Barry Sotero and an Indonesian citizen (The US does not allow plural citizenship) (If you care, not that it matters anymore under a Lawless Authoritarian Totalitarian Regime, you can see more here at an aggregator; obamacrimes.info [obamacrimes.info] )
  - Raytheon lobbyist in Pentagon, lots lobbyists getting exemptions even though he promised not to have them.
- Goldman Sachs insider second in command at Treasury. Bumbling tax cheat idiot in "command" of Treasury with 17 positions unfilled as of late March 2009.
- Cabinet has had several nominees and appointees with multiple tax fraud issues.
- Lied about having a new degree of accountability and a SUNSHINE period of new laws, he has signed bills with little or no review at whitehouse.gov as promised.
- Appointed a second amendment violating Rich-pardoning treasonist Eric Holder as AG, the top cop of the USA, a man who helped a fugitive evade justice.
- Has not put a dime in for a single new nuclear power plant but wants to help bridges and roads to promote more driving.
- Obama, Blagojevich and Rahm Emanuel have a LOT to hide. They literally lived next to each other, Rahm had (until being Chairman Obama's Chief of staff) Blagojevich's old federal congressional seat. Blagojevich helped Chairman "The Teleprompter" Obama cheat his way to the Illinois senate by getting other candidates thrown off the ballot in Illinois. Why do you think Blagojevich was so mad? Obama DID owe him, big time. Rahm and Obama are using Blagojevich and trying to cut his head off to keep him away.
- Tony Rezko, Iraqi Arms Dealer Nahdmi Auchi, and of course Aiham Alsammarae. Chairman "The Teleprompter" Hussein Obama is so corrupted its a joke.
- Fools and "useful idiots" twist the pie charts by leaving welfare, workfare, interest on debt, social security, Medicare and Medicaid out and focusing only on non-whole "discretionary" pie charts.
2007 high level pie chart, Federal Budget, USA [wikimedia.org]
2009 Pie chart, detailed, Federal Budget, USA [wikimedia.org]
- Chairman Obama is drastically increasing spending and creating more entitlements that will make the US less competitive (especially against China, India, East Europe/Russia). This will be a huge disaster and change you can believe in will strap you and your grandkids with more debt. No taxation without representation? Obama is spending money for the next two-three generations and they can't even vote yet, or even have been born.
- An alternative to the dollar and a forex and a reserve currency came up at the last G20 meeting. The world will not take faith in Obama's liar-socialist spending and welfare state, why should the taxpayers (plebian citizen-slaves of a police state).
- The spending going on now vastly eclipses all previous spending. In fact, the massive trillion plus debts is a thing of the 80's onwards. Congress signs the checks, remember that Year after year, as egregious as the pentagon spending is, that the social spending is completely a waste of money and it is unfunded over the long term. Eisenhower built the interstates, the US could build a new power infrastructure with this money but instead is being pissed into creating more of an entitlement system that is STILL unfunded, and without massive poll-taxes and far more aggressive progressive taxes, could NEVER be funded.
- The budgeting being done today were recently reported by a non-partisan auditing commission will lead to about 10 TRILLION in new debt over the next 10 years. Obama is going to double the national debt while doing nothing to address the unfunded debt obligations of Social Security.
- Clinton appointed David Walker of the GAO, he quit, the unfunded debt obligations have rendered the USA insolvent according to accounting standards.
Taxpayers on the hook for $59 trillion [usatoday.com]
US Public Debt Unfunded Debt Obligations [wikipedia.org]
- Most of the world population gets NOTHING from their governments, or a very bare minimum or services that benefit only the upper echelons of society. However, the liar Chairman Obama says we need his universal "state-hospital" rationed health care to be competitive. Bull. China and India give nothing, and they are the biggest threat to the American worker. By forcing healthcare and higher taxes, Americans will be less competitive.
- If you think 60% tax rates end to end (income, accounts receivable tax, building permit tax, CDL tax, cigarette tax, corporate income tax, dog license tax, federal income tax, unemployment tax, gasoline tax, hunting license tax, fishing license tax, waterfowl stamp tax, inheritance tax, inventory tax, liquor tax, luxury tax, Medicare tax, city, school and county property tax (up 33 percent last 4 years), real estate tax, social security tax, road usage tax, toll road tax, state and city sales tax, recreational vehicle tax, excise tax, state franchise tax, state unemployment tax, telephone federal excise tax, telephone federal state and local surcharge tax, telephone minimum usage surcharge tax, telephone state and local tax, utility tax, vehicle license registration tax, capital gains tax, lease severance tax, oil and gas assessment tax, misc internet sales tax and many more taxes that I can't recall at the moment) will make the US competitive, along with compulsory programs to provide everyone with health care is going to make the US competitive in the age of India and China, you are a joke.
- As the US nationalizes (read: rations healthcare) to the least common denominator of affordability without regard to efficacy, people with money will simply look into medical tourism so those with money can go to medical parks in India and get real health care. Those who have lived in Canada or in the UK can tell you "free" healthcare is NOT a panacea. If you think this, you are again, a useful idiot. The NHS in the UK has given bad blood and Hepatitis and AIDS blood to people, and Jade Goody who just died was misdiagnosed twice resulting in her death (She was all cleared twice of cervical cancer which she just died of). The NHS in the UK is not able to be sued or held accountable. Neither will Chairman Obama's rationed health care service for America.
- Sorry to bust the socialist bubble-lie, but support of these types of policies will simply lower the standard of living in the USA, particularly for the middle class. At least at the end of the Eisenhower projects the USA got roads to show for the spending, and with this new spending, the USA could have built power plants that get the USA out of the middle east, but the age of government for the sake of government is upon us, and the useful idiots line up and believe empty promises.
The pentagon (and Bechtel, Kroll, Bluewater, Halliburton, etc) could get less than half of what they get today, but that will fix nothing fundamental in terms of government spending. It is simply not enough to make a difference when compared to the Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, workfare and social security entitlements.
See: YouTube - US Government Immorality Will Lead to Bankruptcy [youtube.com]
- If Obama thinks its ok to lie to 300 million people about being able to "take care of them" without even being honest about what that care would look like, then being an idiot and believing in Obama is for you.
- The head of the IRS and the head of the Treasury, Geithner, is a Tax Cheat
- Lied about no lobbyists - their numbers are growing.
- The US Government already have over 50% of the budget on Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, workfare and social security. Socialists: Good job on that one, its working great. Solution to the current near-collapse-due-to-over-spending: add more unfunded entitlements!
- You Socialist-liars can break my spirit and my financial back to force me to "need" a federal government that is turning this country into a police state and turn it into a quasi-socialist lie, but I will, I must put up a fight. I have kids to educate and feed, and the stuff you sell (which is failing to various degrees everywhere else as implemented) is simply forcing a culture of failure on a once great, libertarian free country.
- I will not be complacent with your "change," and there will be a point where civil war will become an option. See how hard you can push before you get it. How much more than half can the truly productive workers in this country afford to pay. Keep pushing to find out how to start a civil war.
- The socialist-lie of a plan will not work, its not fundable, it WILL destroy the currency to fund it, and its really as simple as this: if this insanity is funded by borrowing from the US's economic and military adversaries then Obama and his socialist cabal is NOT fit to administrate society. Rome fell. Kings who mis-manged their treasuries all fell. Every example of unhinged spending leads to the same result: systemic collapse.
- Obama and his sycophantic lunatics would want to have a civil war to get Chairman Obama's way and force the socialist-lie system on my already tax paying law abiding ass. And as far as "no new taxes" for those under 250k, its a lie, the tax is called inflation, which is set to begin just about now that the Chinese wont want the USA's worthless treasuries to fund the socialist-lie fantasy (one that COMMUNIST China doesn't even try and sell to its people!)
- Chairman Obama's numbers don't add up. There is a $59 trillion dollar hole (UFDO) in social security alone. AIG $150 billion here, TARP $350 billion there. $800 billion for a highly dubious stimulus package. Another one on the way. $59 trillion hole in the balance sheet IGNORED. China saying they aren't going to buy treasuries, Clinton clamoring to find buyers now. $3.6 trillion dollar budget, potential military action on Mexico, Iran still a "terrorist state" at the behest of the AIPAC, spending up, dollar about to fall, inflation over time since Breton Woods extremely easy to document, yet, the socialist-liars question when the numbers (the Federal Government numbers) simply don't add up to the point where if the US-GOV was a company it would be insolvent.
  -How dare the taxpayers question what Chairman Obama's drastic spending increases are going to do to the purchasing power of our savings because Chairman Obama wants to recklessly spend and try to maintain and American empire AND guarantee a standard of living, and Chairman Obama doesn't even want to build a single nuclear power plant to do it? Chairman Obama must be a complete and total lunatic moron.
- Obama is either a negligent idiot or an unhinged maniac with delusional fantasies. Meanwhile, Chainman Obama's tax dodging Treasury Secretary has 17 unfilled positions, the Treasury Dept. isn't even functioning at this point.
- "General welfare" in the constitution was, according to the man who wrote it, Madison, meant to be extremely limited in scope. The federal government per the constitution doesn't even have the enumerated POWER to deal with economic messes. A lot of these "POWERS" were created while there is a crisis to dupe the public into accepting an un-constitutional authoritarian regime as the government and to usurp authority over the people.
- The USA is a constitutional republic. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting to eat a sheep. Also a constitutional republic isn't about using a barely-majority or a plurality to stuff your (un-fundable disastrous) crap down the disenfranchised other-half's throat.
- With Obama's authoritarian corrupted criminal (aiding and abetting a criminal in flight of prosecution, Rich case) Eric Holder in charge, we won't have our inalienable and enumerated rights to firearms much longer. For a constitutional law expert, Obama must have never read the federalist papers or he would simply hand himself as a traitor.
- The arbitrary expansion of "general welfare" is not only unconstitutional, it may very well lead to a serious conflict on the issue.
- Here is a debate on general welfare and how stuff like this came to pass, but was clearly no intended by the authors of the document of root law.
In Federalist No. 41, James Madison asked rhetorically: "For what purpose could the enumeration of particular powers be inserted, if these and all others were meant to be included in the preceding general power?" (In reference to the general welfare clause)
So strongly did the founders believe that "general welfare" wouldn't be expanded as written:
In Federalist No. 84, Alexander Hamilton indirectly confirmed Madison's point. (That the "general welfare" clause was "clearly" nota free pass for government)
Hamilton argued that a bill of rights, which many were clamoring for, would be not only unnecessary, but dangerous. Since the federal government was given only a few specific powers, there was no need to add prohibitions: it was implicitly prohibited by the listed powers. If a proposed law a relief act, for instance wasn't covered by any of these powers, it was unconstitutional.
"why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do? Why, for instance, should it be said, that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained when no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed?"
Hamilton goes on to argue that making Amendments (e.g., enumerating Free speech, press and assembly) and enumerating the 'right' would have the following effect:
(A bill of rights) "would furnish, to men disposed to usurp, a plausible pretence for claiming that power that is, a power to regulate the press, short of actually shutting it down. "
"With respect to the words 'general welfare,' I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers (enumerated in the Constitution) connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." --James Madison [The US Supreme Court has found the meaning of "general welfare" in the Constitution to be much more elastic than did Mr. Madison. But as the "author of the Constitution," what does he know?]
James Madison, when asked if the "general welfare" clause was a grant of power, replied in 1792, in a letter to Henry Lee,

If not only the means but the objects are unlimited, the parchment [the Constitution] should be thrown into the fire at once.

"...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it...it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government , and to provide new Guards for their future security. ...--The Declaration of Independence
- Wrong, monetizing failures causes more. Japan showed us this for decades. But hey, Chairman Obama thinks you can fix a problem DECADES in the making with a quick fixer-upper, he is screwed in the head.
- The complaints are with the Federal government (in general) since Breton Woods. The Federal Government and Obama's minions STILL didn't listen to David Walker, a Clinton appointee and former head of the GAO. This isn't about political parties anymore morons!
- Show me a single federal budget that was less than the previous. If this $3.6T budget goes, its never coming back barring systemic collapse.
- The United States Federal Government, The United States Federal Reserve, and the banks which were enabled to continue down reckless paths by a quasi government agency known as the Federal Reserve whose actions are not subject to congress and whose members are unelected. This situation is untenable and unconstitutional.
- Every inflationary road taken in history ends in collapse. Keynesian policies are widely regarded as no longer workable.
- Inflation is a tax: What ignorant tax and spenders don't take into account here is the relative percentages of people's wealth (both net and gross) and the costs of owning and maintaining houses, cars, standards of living.
- Inflation via deficit spending is going to make it such that you will be paying a lot more by percentage of your income to maintain a given standard of living. Obama's arguments are so poorly thought out and seek to blame "Republicans" for the mess, its really simply laughable - the needs cleanup now, not worsening.
- You can't spend your way out of a hole if the creditors (e.g. China) start telling the USA they won't buy. It is that simple. Now America starts to have to collateralize the debt with assets. The USA will be selling off chunks of American assets to back the new debt. One day, it may even be necessary to sell Alaska back to Russia because no one will take greenbacks to prop up a failing version of a modern Rome.
- Ah, here we go with the Matthew Lesko arguments. [lesko.com]
Interest rates were on the rise before the government stepped in with free money for everyone (the fine print of course indicate massive strings attached).
Other economies, for example, India, have the central rates set to far more reasonable/realistic rates (at the moment ~ 8+%), which is still tends to be too low, but shows that if you need someone else capital you need to pay a premium for it, and given that capital is in short supply, it would stand to reason that a premium must be charged for it.
The problem is the unrealistic growth rates of mature economies don't allow for profiting via growth projections (rather than simply earning money). So the government steps in, turns on the free money spigot, gets the interest rates for savings down in the 1-2% range while diluting the value of the whole currency in order to prop up dying companies that ran the business like a Madhoff Ponzi scheme.
- The Republicans aren't solely responsible for the crisis as Obama's minions would have you believe, congress is (no particular congress), the Executive of the US government (no particular one) and the US Federal Reserve System are all at fault.
- Fundamentally, the government is trying to fix the prices of various things to "make it all work." This pulling on the invisible hand is a fools venture. It was predicted long ago the housing collapse (and those, such as myself, in the know, wished while realizing the housing collapse coming that we were wrong for everyone's sake - but the truth is the truth) . It may be that the Austrian (von Mises) economists will ultimately be proven right.
- We are a nation of partially educated whiney grabby idiots, and we got the government that represents this. The Chinese, India and other up and coming nations will show no mercy for this arrogant abuse of our status as the world's forex reserves.
- War and asset sales will continue to be the only option for this scheme until it is corrected at the core. And to say that the government has already averted a depression by doing what they did (most of the monies injected wont be "felt" for some time), is just arrogance and stupidity. Price fixing prolonged the Great Depression. Price-fixing (or attempting to) houses will do the same, but probably worse.
- Obama's minions simply don't care if the US is bankrupted and rendered insolvent, they just want a say in how its done, presumably to "feel safe." Rather selfish.

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." AND "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (Possibly Richard Jackson)

- Everyone better realize that inflation will pay a major role in funding un-fundable fantasies, wiping the savers and the middle class out. The problem is, that other countries are growing tired of making our Federal Reserve notes worth something by buying our debt as treasuries. Obama's minions talk about spending, but in order to "get what YOU want" you will sell debt to potential economic and military adversaries? Real bright. What's really sad is that despite David Walker being an authority on these issues, people refuse to even watch him and listen to what he is saying.
- On the success of Canada and its form of Socialism: A huge country like Canada with massive amounts of uranium and tar sands and natural resources and a huge land mass with a scant 30 million people is an order of magnitude less of a problem to manage than a country with 10x its population, a serious leaky southern border, backfiring aggressive foreign policy, particularly with Iran, and the US is competing with countries like India and China whose middle classes are larger than the US's entire population. The top 5 students in every Indian and Chinese primary school out numbers all the kids in primary school in the US. Canada is a idyllic island, the USA is front and center in an all out economic and political clash of ideologies.
- Cap and trade (and pollution control for solving global problems) will never work unless the top 10 countries in the world (in terms of both GDP and manufacturing capacity and population) are on board. Period end. If the world doesn't quickly move to nuclear now and fusion shortly, it is OVER possibly not if every home on the planet gets a wind vane, but that seems unlikely to happen (since its possible now).
- Keynes calls it "the paradox of thrift" and suggested that policies forcing people not to save is a "good idea." The guy wanted people spending all the time, or if he didn't, he never conveyed that to his protégés well enough for them to not do what they are doing. Right now the plebeians in the US are actually stashing cash, and everyone from Obama to the media is trying to get people to spend spend spend. The best thing for the long term is for people to prepare for the coming hell, not set out with no reserves.
- I have seen Keynes invoked to justify nearly every bad move in the past decade, and its warming up to be a potential currency collapse, the collapse of the US Treasury and Federal Reserve notes, and a collapse of the NYSE. And then they invoke Keynes to suggest the best way out of the mess is to spend out of an already near-critically debt massed black hole.
- A house is run like a town is run like a country or business is run like a state is run like a government. If there are things the government is doing that would either force your home into bankruptcy or into jail via fraud charges, then the government and banks shouldn't be operating in that fashion. A certain degree of stretchy liquidity is in order, but in terms of percent of GDP, there is no way of justifying what they US has now.
- Iceland failed at 850 percent debt to GDP. The US is at 350 and rising. It is not a good thing at all.
- What is happening to the dollar as a forex standard. [youtube.com]
- March 19, 2009 C-SPAN - "Let's Quit Destroying Our Dollar!" [youtube.com]
- HR 1207 (A bill to make the Fed more accountable and to answer questions regarding the dollar policy) [loc.gov]

Title: Obama sidetracked by fiscal mess, but presses on [yahoo.com]
"Being heard above the din may prove difficult. Lawmakers are wrangling over taxing people who got big bonuses and worrying the president's budget could generate $9.3 trillion in red ink over the next decade."
- Kremlin to pitch new global currency [infowars.com]
Russia proposes creation of global super-reserve currency

Holy crap, even the Russians and Chinese get it. Strange days are here.

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323137)

do you have a website number? I need to gird my loins.

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323361)

Shouldn't you be taking your drugs, er, medication right now, Mr. Limbaugh?

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323767)

Can someone please explain the Tsarkon meme to me? TIA.

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (1)

DavoMan (759653) | more than 5 years ago | (#27325761)

I don't get it. What the hell does this thread have to do with me clipping my toe nails on a speedboat while an old lady sits behind me listening to Megadeth?

Huh? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27322343)

Bi..BitTorrent? I thought that was bad. Where people downloaded stolen music!

Re:Huh? (1)

DavoMan (759653) | more than 5 years ago | (#27325767)

Oh NOES! Quick MPAA save us from teh bad peeple.

awesome bar (3, Interesting)

jeffstar (134407) | more than 5 years ago | (#27322635)

the gnome file manager also has an awesome bar like firefox now!

Re:awesome bar (-1, Troll)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 5 years ago | (#27323127)

Woohoo, yet another reason to use KDE!

The awesome bar is so bad I moved back to seamonkey, and won't ever consider Firefox again until they start using a normal address bar. Preferably the one from Seamonkey where searching doesn't need a separate and way too small search bar.

Re:awesome bar (2, Interesting)

RepugnantJohn (1492011) | more than 5 years ago | (#27323239)

What exactly is wrong with the awesomebar? I'm a safari/webkit/chrome user, but I use Firefox to check website designs, and the bar doesn't seem that much different than the one in in Firefox 2.

Re:awesome bar (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 5 years ago | (#27323875)

I don't want suggestions and search results in my address bar.

It's there for me to type an address in to go to. For searching, there is a search bar, or even various search-focused websites.

Re:awesome bar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27324011)

Good thing there aren't suggestions or search results in it, only browsing history. Maybe search results from your browsing history, yeah. That's a good thing. There are suggestions in the search bar, which is also a good thing.

Re:awesome bar (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 5 years ago | (#27324301)

Hrm, I must have confused myself or something.

Pardon.

But I still hate it. There's a place for browsing history to go, which is (shocking!) called "History".

Re:awesome bar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27324523)

I'm using Old Location Bar. Addy bar still acts a little odd from time to time but I can live with it.

Re:awesome bar (1)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 5 years ago | (#27325069)

Good thing there aren't suggestions or search results in it, only browsing history...

And bookmarks.

Re:awesome bar (1)

DavoMan (759653) | more than 5 years ago | (#27326025)

And your old socks from 3 weeks ago.

Re:awesome bar (1)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 5 years ago | (#27326033)

Google indexed those?

Re:awesome bar (2, Insightful)

DavoMan (759653) | more than 5 years ago | (#27326037)

And that pron that all your friends find when using your computer.

Re:awesome bar (4, Informative)

compro01 (777531) | more than 5 years ago | (#27324083)

You likely wouldn't notice it unless you use it as your fulltime browser. It searches the history and displays results, but in a more indepth manner (searches page titles AND urls and doesn't just search from the front) than a "normal" address bar. It also sorts said results "smartly" based on usage. (lots of people hate it for this reason).

It really has a love-it-or-hate-it quality. I personally liked it once I got used to it (and vice versa).

Re:awesome bar (1)

jeffstar (134407) | more than 5 years ago | (#27324321)

I don't mind it either. I don't understand why some hate on it so much. Maybe they don't like their browsing history to be so apparent.

Re:awesome bar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27324363)

I personally hate it, but it's so trivial to just disable the functionality in about:config that it doesn't matter - certain doesn't warrant removing firefox and installing something else.

Re:awesome bar (1)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 5 years ago | (#27325117)

It also sorts said results "smartly" based on usage.

This feature allows me to circumvent /.'s new system for reaching one's comment history. It's the first on the list for a typed 'c', although occasionally it will forget and I need to go to the page manually again.

Re:awesome bar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27325831)

I personally liked it once I got used to it (and vice versa).

You mean you got used to it once you liked it? /confused

Re:awesome bar (1)

chammy (1096007) | more than 5 years ago | (#27326383)

Awesomebar absolutely chugs on my linux box. It will almost lock up the browser while it loads junk out of the database. I'm on a 3ghz cpu w/ 4 gigs of ram and I think that it's unacceptable. I'm using Opera in linux atm just so I dont have to mess with it.

Re:awesome bar (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323917)

How is the search bar way too small? Can't read your 1,000-word Google search queries in their entirety? Why not just resize it? And how is the address bar being more intuitive, functional, natural and attractive a bad thing?

Just not interested (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27322789)

I left gnome when they removed all the options from the screen-savers because they decided that configuring the screen-savers was to complicated for users. Surely not all gnome users are retards!

Re:Just not interested (3, Insightful)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 5 years ago | (#27322937)

Having used both KDE and GNOME (along with Xfce and fvwm-crystal) I don't really feel like GNOME is lacking in customization options. While it obviously has less than KDE does, it doesn't feel like it, and everything I felt like customizing either had a pre-made theme or I could do it with the GUI. People always seem to criticize GNOME on its customization, but I don't feel like it is any less configurable than KDE, Xfce, fvwm and even Windows. What features did the old screen saver menu have that the new one does not? Because having just taken a look on it (Using Ubuntu 8.10) I can't find an option that isn't there that I would use.

Re:Just not interested (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27322973)

It used to be that you could easily change the number of flying cows, bouncing balls, 3D widgets, etc. in each screen-saver.

Now you can't, so if your PC can't handle X flying widgets, then you are out of luck. If your PC can handle more special effects, then you are still out of luck because you can't configure any screen-saver.

Re:Just not interested (1)

MrEricSir (398214) | more than 5 years ago | (#27323107)

You could also just turn off your monitor and quit wasting power with bouncing cows.

Re:Just not interested (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323289)

I heard that in KDE, the kinetic energy generated by the bouncing cows impacting with the virtual ground is automatically redistributed throughout the grid, powering several orphanages, hippy communes, Al Gore's home, and the 'Save the Kittens, Whales, and Fish That Look Like Nemo' foundation's headquarters.

Take that, climate change hippy.

Re:Just not interested (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27324221)

Have fun paying higher energy bills and shaving precious years off the life of your display while you're out getting drunk with your NRA fuckbuddies before returning home to your double-wide and kicking the shit out of your cousin/wife, good sir.

Re:Just not interested (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323419)

You could also turn off aero or compiz or [insert shiny thing], so what? People like things to look good, (look at posters, lava lamps, etc in real life). The lack of customization is definitely a downside (which may be offsetted by adding more screen savers though) but it really depends on the user.

Note: I don't use screen savers and I'm more of a kde user.

Re:Just not interested (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27326395)

I can't find an option that isn't there

Could be there's a reason for that.

Re:Just not interested (1, Insightful)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 5 years ago | (#27323893)

Wrong.

That was done because the old way is a security risk.

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316654 [gnome.org]

Re:Just not interested (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27324261)

Yea, I hear about the X screen-saver getting hacked all the time in distribs that use it. Not.

Re:Just not interested (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 5 years ago | (#27324289)

I don't say I agree with it, but clearly the parent [slashdot.org] has no idea what he/she/it is talking about.

Re:Just not interested (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27324947)

the fact that you're using linsux shows that you're a retard. or at least a faggot dick sucker.

OPEN SORES IS FOR FAGGOTS!!! DICK SUCKING FAGGOTS!!!!

now go back to beating off to your freddie mercury posters, faggot.

Re:Just not interested (1)

byteframe (924916) | more than 5 years ago | (#27325859)

Install xscreensaver-demo and you can configure the screensaver from there. The Gnome Screen Saver utility is simpler, yes.

New Audio - Major Win (5, Informative)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 5 years ago | (#27322795)

Per application volume control is a MAJOR feature. Listening to music, while not having web pages blast out your ear drums is a major win. This is my favorite feature of Vista, and I am happy to see it integrated into Gnome.

Re:New Audio - Major Win (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323149)

I've been bitching about getting a feature like this since the fscking annoying "crazy frog" adds first assaulted my ears way back when.* So I'll join in offering a big thank-you to the Gnome team!

*I also got serious about add blocking around the same time. Odd that.

Re:New Audio - Major Win (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27326463)

I stopped bitching about getting a feature like that once Adblock and Noscript came into existance.

Re:New Audio - Major Win (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323223)

Nice feature in theory, but so far like all the other features of the Pulseaudio sound server, it's a bitch to get working right. Pulse eats up a shitload of CPU cycles, and I've not yet been able to configure it to eliminate the ridiculous latency and the ever present snap crackle pop during playback and recording. Whoever had the audacity (pun intended) to describe this software as "glitch free" with the requisite "Perfect Setup" should be subjected to a nut punch. Sound support in linux has always been problematic, but the state of Pulseaudio is just huge regression in that area.

sound support not always problematic in Linux (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323831)

Things went downhill the moment the first sound server became common. The first popular one was "esd" or "esound", the Enlightenment Sound Daemon.

With that came sound libraries by the dozen, because sound was no longer simple for app programmers. This in turn was an enabler for the evils of ALSA, which is totally unusable without the ALSA library. As the years went by, everybody and their dog wrote a sound server. We got sound servers feeding into sound servers. You could even connect them to each other in a loop, something easy to do with all the confusing config problems. We lost the "Just Works" feature long ago.

And for what? I certainly don't want sounds from different apps mixed into an ear-assaulting mess. I want one thing at a time. I'm totally fine with having one thing monopolize the hardware, with my audio stream unmolested by mixers of dubious quality and high latency. If you want to be fancy, a stack-based design that plays the most recent app (going back to the previous one when the recent one finishes) would be kind of nice. That assumes I want stuff interrupted, which is a big maybe.

Re:sound support not always problematic in Linux (1)

cerberusss (660701) | more than 5 years ago | (#27325793)

And for what? I certainly don't want sounds from different apps mixed into an ear-assaulting mess. I want one thing at a time.

I don't. Most apps assume they can just open() the sound device, but actually that doesn't work. You might have a music player running in the background, and then start up some VOIP software. Or have the music player running while your messenger program needs to play a sound when you receive a message or something.

This is appropriate, modern usage.

Re:sound support not always problematic in Linux (1)

pizzach (1011925) | more than 5 years ago | (#27326277)

I think the modern poster mostly lamenting a haphazard implementation for a feature he wasn't even sure he wanted in the first place.
  • Alsa mixer has dmix which needlessly duplicates the functionality that is is esound and pulseaudio.
  • Alsa has become bloated. If pulseaudio actually takes off, Alsa should most likely be gutted back to being ultra simple and actually be reworked to be linux style again. (devices are a simple file)
  • Many people will be just using pulseaudio as an esound replacement in programs that don't support the new APIs which makes he mental jumble of what is doing what more complicated.
  • I am sure there is a fear that pulseaudio will be the buggy zombie mess that esound ended up being. Pulseaudio was a buggy mess itself for a long long time (when it was polypaudio).
  • I'm sure there are still a fair enough people who don't care about audio settings per app because most important apps include their own volume bar. It's not totally dissimilar to the argument whether an IME/keyboard layout settings should be global to all windows/applications ore just restricted to to the current window. Mac OS X has flip-flopped on that one but has a preference.

In conclusion: It would be nice if every part of the chain wasn't trying to duplicate the same functionality complicating an already convoluted pipeline. One zombie daemon is better than two.

Re:New Audio - Major Win (3, Informative)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 5 years ago | (#27324013)

Pulse only eats up a 'shitload' of CPU if you have it set up to resample (hint... use your card's native rate and don't resample)... especially if you use a CPU intensive resample algorithm.

Re:New Audio - Major Win (2, Informative)

pembo13 (770295) | more than 5 years ago | (#27323249)

Windows has this. It's a cool feature. But this one is not provided by Gnome as far as I know, but by PulseAudio, correct me if I am wrong.

Re:New Audio - Major Win (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323307)

It's a cool feature. But this one is not provided by Gnome as far as I know, but by PulseAudio, correct me if I am wrong.

It's a PulseAudio feature, but this latest version of GNOME integrates support for it. So, you can set the volumes using the standard GNOME volume control applet.

Re:New Audio - Major Win (1)

chammy (1096007) | more than 5 years ago | (#27326403)

Also, at least in Pulse you don't have to restart the application to reassign an output like in some other operating system out there.

Re:New Audio - Major Win (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 5 years ago | (#27323457)

Section 2.5 of the release notes implies controlling such a thing is easy in the new sound prefs.

See Figure 4.

Allegedly KDE 4 can do this too, but I have searched and searched, but the handbook is for KDE 3 still. Googling for it simply turns up press releases bragging that it can be done by application, or application group.

Re:New Audio - Major Win (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27326219)

Just use the absolutely wonderful OpenSound System instead: http://opensound.com/oss.html
All my sound troubles went away once I switched.

Why brasero? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323055)

I use Ubuntu regular, so brasero has been the default cd burner for me, and I've grown to hate it. In the past, in had performance issues that stemmed from bad memory management. (It used the HDD like it was RAM, and caused massive slow downs / virtual lockups as it out-competed the rest of my system for the HDD).

I tried K3b. Ah-mazing. Why not just port K3b to gtk? I mean, its just a cd-burning app. All it needs to do is support the features of your drive, and manage the burning process. Nero accomplished this feat some 10 years ago, and clearly K3b has accomplished it too. Brasero hasn't.

It seems like someone is reinventing the wheel somewhere; I just don't get why.

Re:Why brasero? (1)

MrHanky (141717) | more than 5 years ago | (#27323257)

Porting K3b to KDE 4.x is difficult enough, apparently. They even had to modify Qt [techworld.com.au] . It's a very nice app, though; fast, reliable, no configuration needed, and with a good GUI.

Re:Why brasero? (0, Troll)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 5 years ago | (#27324035)

If you have to modify the widget library to support your program, you are doing something wrong.

Re:Why brasero? (3, Insightful)

Too Much Noise (755847) | more than 5 years ago | (#27326063)

If you had read T linked FA - fat chance on /., but still - or even if you knew a thing or two about Qt, it would have saved you from making a lame comment.

First: Qt is not just a widget library. It's a full framework that goes well beyond putting things on screens.

Second: What he did modify had nothing to do with widgets. K3b used a KProcess class that employed piping of I/O. In KDE4, that wraps QProcess, which is too high-level for the kind of data-passing throughput required by dvd burning, so he had the class re-written. Yes, the article title is lame (as is its rehashing by the GP post) - forking a class is nothing nearly like forking a framework - but its absurdity should have triggered curiosity instead of look-at-me-I'm-smart comments missing the point.

Re:Why brasero? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27324519)

Please read the actual blog, instead of techworld which just put "", he said.

He only had to create his own version of QProcess, not all of Qt.

Re:Why brasero? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27325147)

Treug had to modify ONE class for qt (QProcess) : hardly 'modifing Qt'. You do more just by inheriting the UIs that Qt creates.

Re:Why brasero? (1)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 5 years ago | (#27324031)

Why not just have libqt4 laying around and use K3b as is?

It's all the other KDE nonsense and arts that it wants, that is the issue.

Re:Why brasero? (1)

TheDreadedGMan (1122791) | more than 5 years ago | (#27324219)

yep my thoughts exactly, I've tried to use Brasero to burn data discs and after arranging and moving files around a bit it almost always crashed on me... kinda like using an old version of Nero... although the nero drag-and-drop-into-random-folder bug is not there there are enough unique bugs that I'm unimpressed... I'll have to try the latest version and see if it's any better...

Not worried about what got fixed or added .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323195)

... just tell me what got deleted because the GNOME overlords didn't think it was worth fixing.

different wallpaper on different desktops (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323557)

Can I put a different wallpaper on different desktops yet? That's the main feature I miss from KDE when I use Gnome (I tend to have different versions of the same code open on different desktops, so a visual queue as to which one I'm looking at really helps).

Re:different wallpaper on different desktops (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323751)

You mean cue.

Re:different wallpaper on different desktops (1)

InfiniteLoopCounter (1355173) | more than 5 years ago | (#27324009)

Can I put a different wallpaper on different desktops yet? That's the main feature I miss from KDE when I use Gnome (I tend to have different versions of the same code open on different desktops, so a visual queue as to which one I'm looking at really helps).

What I've done (just yesterday) is concatenate 2 pictures together using GIMP. To do this I doubled the horizontal canvas size, offset the 1st picture to the right and pasted in the picture on the left. Takes about half a minute, although I do see why it would be better to have it done properly.

As a related aside -- shouldn't GNOME support transparent backgrounds by now for wallpaper with icons, so that other programs can make use of the background as well?

Re:different wallpaper on different desktops (2, Informative)

InfiniteLoopCounter (1355173) | more than 5 years ago | (#27324191)

Can I put a different wallpaper on different desktops yet? That's the main feature I miss from KDE when I use Gnome (I tend to have different versions of the same code open on different desktops, so a visual queue as to which one I'm looking at really helps).

What I've done (just yesterday) is concatenate 2 pictures together using GIMP. To do this I doubled the horizontal canvas size, offset the 1st picture to the right and pasted in the picture on the left. Takes about half a minute, although I do see why it would be better to have it done properly.

As a related aside -- shouldn't GNOME support transparent backgrounds by now for wallpaper with icons, so that other programs can make use of the background as well?

I'll try not to make a habit of replying to my own posts, but I was talking about a multi-monitor setup whilst the GP was probably refering to virtual desktops.

Compiz's wallpaper plugin can put different wallpapers on different virtual desktops, but currently needs nautilus to not draw the background. However, this means that you won't have any icons on the desktop! All that need be done by GNOME developers (specifically nautilus/eel people) is add an alpha channel to the background wallpaper pixmap -- which they may one day do.

Re:different wallpaper on different desktops (1)

coaxial (28297) | more than 5 years ago | (#27325133)

I have a program that does that. I haven't used it in years since I now have a mac, but it used to work. gtk and imlib.

I don't remember what the diff is between the versions, so here they both are.

http://jonathankorensucks.com/imlibsetroot-10.tar.gz [jonathankorensucks.com]
http://jonathankorensucks.com/imlibsetroot-11.tar.gz [jonathankorensucks.com]

Can someone tell me why Gnome has such huge icons? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27323771)

In all the taskbars, the icons are always HUGE! Look at this for instance:

http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.26/figures/gnome.png.en_GB

Why oh why isn't there an option to use small icons? Not all users are visually impaired! On this widescreen laptop I like to have as much vertical space as possible.

Re:Can someone tell me why Gnome has such huge ico (2, Informative)

Mprx (82435) | more than 5 years ago | (#27324239)

You can disable the labels from the "Interface" tab of the "Appearance Preferences".

Cheese (1)

LingNoi (1066278) | more than 5 years ago | (#27324005)

I find using cheese annoying because when you record a video it's REALLY compressed and looks crap. It also saves it as OGG which makes sending videos a pain to the uncoverted.

Oh and as usual no obvious way to change the format or quality.

The way it is now I don't see how Cheese would be usable to someone who isn't computer savy and knows how to change the video format so those on windows can watch it. I'm not saying you can't watch OGGs on windows just that it doesn't come default so to the laymen it doesn't work.

Could some elaborate on the multimon fix? (2, Informative)

melted (227442) | more than 5 years ago | (#27324225)

I had to edit config files to get my laptop to recognize and bring up the second screen after docking. Editing config files should not be required for one of the core mobility scenarios.

Does this release fix the issue? I.e. if I just connect the monitor, will it get recognized automatically?

Evolution still is a slug (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27324653)

I was using Evolution for general email and admin emails. Sometimes my cron job emails would get too big and evolution just choked on them, causing the whole client to come to a grinding halt. I would have to kill the process or watch my whole desktop start to freeze up.

Thunderbird works much smoother in this respect and found myself having to move to it. Thunderbird manages memory much better in my opinion. I hope the Gnome project will focus on these issues more.

I switched to K3d in place of Brasso -- much better.

File Dialog (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27324841)

As someone who has not messed with gnome based distro (or linux in general) in a while, have they fix the file dialog yet? I like to have a thumbnail view for once that is

  1. not per-click and
  2. not microscopic in size by each file name

An actual group of large thumbnails would be nice!
It sucks that I would have to use a hack to get a KDE dialog to pop up for Firefox; always buggy too.

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