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Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope Now In Beta

kdawson posted more than 5 years ago | from the your-netbook-will-thank-you dept.

Debian 180

An anonymous reader writes "To little fanfare and not much news coverage, Canonical released the beta of Ubuntu 9.04 'Jaunty Jackalope.' I tried it on a Dell Mini 9 using the Ubuntu Netbook Remix (UNR) and it's fabulous! Much better than the sad 'Dell Desktop' that it shipped with. Finally, someone has broken the 25+ year old too-many-open-windows-and-chaos desktop paradigm with UNR's task oriented layout, which is perfect for small netbook screen sizes."

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180 comments

It's a beta.. (3, Informative)

3.5 stripes (578410) | more than 5 years ago | (#27358925)

That's why there's not much fanfare.

It's for people willing to experience a few issues, or a few bugs, to make the product which comes out with lots of fanfare more solid.

Re:It's a beta.. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27359643)

I don't see any reason to make a huge deal about any "new" Linux release. True, they often have some significant tweaks (new Gnome version or whatever), but the majority of those are pushed via updates to older versions for a good year or longer. I have a Fedora 9 box running the latest kernel (they're approaching F11 in the next couple months), and have not had *any* need for any excitement about F10 on it.

Re:It's a beta.. (5, Interesting)

jdgeorge (18767) | more than 5 years ago | (#27360401)

I don't see any reason to make a huge deal about any "new" Linux release.

Well, two things:
1. Yeah, that's the kind of news only Nerds would care about! Can't they find an appropriate forum for that?
2. This is not about a new "Linux" release. It's about a new Ubuntu beta. By contrast, This is a story about a new Linux release. [slashdot.org]

Re:It's a beta.. (2, Funny)

Matt Perry (793115) | more than 5 years ago | (#27362643)

This is not about a new "Linux" release. It's about a new Ubuntu beta. By contrast, This is a story about a new Linux release.

Alright, Stallman. We get it already.

Let me be the first to ask.... (5, Funny)

ControversialMatt (1070718) | more than 5 years ago | (#27358953)

What the heck is a Jackalope?

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (4, Funny)

Spazztastic (814296) | more than 5 years ago | (#27358975)

What the heck is a Jackalope?

A mix between a Jackolantern and an Antelope.

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (5, Funny)

mrdoogee (1179081) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359003)

Wrong! It's a mix between Hugh Jackman and a Cantaloupe.

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (1)

SeePage87 (923251) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359291)

Double wrong! It's a misspelling of the shocked question, "Jack eloped?!?"

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (4, Funny)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359397)

Wrong again!

Its a mix between Jack Nicholson and....your mom.

(Happy Friday folks)

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (1)

jd (1658) | more than 5 years ago | (#27363343)

Isn't it something Michael Jackson bio-engineered in Neverland?

A jackalope is... (5, Informative)

spinochet (214223) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359279)

a rabbit with antlers [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (4, Funny)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359281)

Citty-frakkin'-slickers... Jackrabbit and an Antelope. We've got them all over western Nebraska...

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27359765)

Having lived in Nebraska (western even), It does not surprise me that you believe they exist.

Been snipe hunting [wikipedia.org] lately?

As the saying goes; Nebraska is a good place to be FROM!

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (1)

quangdog (1002624) | more than 5 years ago | (#27360101)

While you are out snipe hunting, could you pick me up a left-handed smoke shifter? Thanks.

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (1)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 5 years ago | (#27360289)

Yeah, I'll get you one. Those, we've got TONS of in eastern Nebraska.

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (4, Funny)

rackserverdeals (1503561) | more than 5 years ago | (#27361277)

Citty-frakkin'-slickers... Jackrabbit and an Antelope. We've got them all over western Nebraska...

You Rube! It's a myth!

There's no such thing as western Nebraska.

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (1)

azaana (1444353) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359295)

I thought it was a hare which had antelope's antlers on top. Or is Jakolantern another name for a hare.

Not quite (1)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359631)

Jack Rabbit and Antelope. We have them here in the west :)

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (4, Funny)

Dunbal (464142) | more than 5 years ago | (#27358991)

I dunno, but it's probably going to break my sound drivers... again (sigh).

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (2, Informative)

corsec67 (627446) | more than 5 years ago | (#27358993)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackalope [wikipedia.org]

"The jackalope -- also called an antelabbit, aunt benny, Wyoming thistled hare or stagbunny -- is a fictional animal and a cross between a jackrabbit and an antelope, goat, or deer, and is usually portrayed as a rabbit with antlers."

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (1)

Spazztastic (814296) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359071)

"a fictional animal and a cross between a jackrabbit and an antelope, goat, or deer, and is usually portrayed as a rabbit with antlers."

I knew I had been drinking too much when I saw one of those...

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (1)

Bwian_of_Nazareth (827437) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359005)

Jackalope [wikipedia.org]

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27359039)

So you have no access to google, or wikipedia... or for that matter, access to any major search engine?

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (1)

tecnico.hitos (1490201) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359507)

Jackalope is actually just a poor sick rabbit. The alleged horns are tumors.

Well, I guess unicorns, Nessie and Bigfoot are still up.

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (5, Funny)

jo42 (227475) | more than 5 years ago | (#27360283)

I'm still waiting for the "Gracious Goatse" release of Unbuntu.

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27361267)

Gratuitous Goatse or Gaping Goatse would be better

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (4, Funny)

Matt Perry (793115) | more than 5 years ago | (#27362611)

I'm still waiting for the "Gracious Goatse" release of Unbuntu.

There were plans for that version but the release slipped through the crack.

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27360621)

It's a step lower on the food chain from a Gorilla Bear.

See Boundin from Pixar... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27360797)

See Boundin from Pixar...

Re:Let me be the first to ask.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27362255)

An antelope that masturbates constantly...

Netbook Remix Interface (3, Informative)

CFBMoo1 (157453) | more than 5 years ago | (#27358979)

I've been running it on my two EEE's for a long time. That interface is the bees knees for those things. That was distributed on the UbuntuEEE fork that later turned in to EasyPeasy. I'm really interested in trying out 9.04 though.

Re:Netbook Remix Interface (1)

nschubach (922175) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359877)

Bees knees are far to easy to break. ;)

Re:Netbook Remix Interface (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27361023)

Grammar is far too easy to break as well!

Re:Netbook Remix Interface (2, Interesting)

chill (34294) | more than 5 years ago | (#27360767)

Have you been bitten by the bug where netbook-launcher sits at 100% CPU utilization? I had to remove it because it was making my EEE unusable.

Re:Netbook Remix Interface (1)

Abreu (173023) | more than 5 years ago | (#27363359)

Ah, so that's why my Acer suddenly became so slow?

Screenshots (3, Informative)

Thelasko (1196535) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359007)

Here are some screenshots for Alpha 6, [softpedia.com] but does anybody have screenshots of Beta?

Not that they will be all that different.

Re:Screenshots (3, Interesting)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359635)

You can see the new wallpaper anyway.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-9-04-Beta-Screenshot-Tour-107809.shtml [softpedia.com]

Re:Screenshots (1)

Thelasko (1196535) | more than 5 years ago | (#27360291)

+1 good job!

Wrong color desktop? Re:Screenshots (2, Insightful)

Hadlock (143607) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359647)

I thought they "fixed" the brown desktop theme? There are blue desktop screenshots but that's for KDE or some such.

Re:Wrong color desktop? Re:Screenshots (3, Informative)

WebCowboy (196209) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359885)

I thought they "fixed" the brown desktop theme?

These are screenshots of the Alpha version. From my past experience Alpha releases do not change the default theme from that of the previous release. When I set up an Intrepid Alpha system it just used Hardy's desktop. When it upgraded itself to Beta the theme changed to some sort of generic polkadot wallpaper with everything else kept the same. When it went into full release the theme changed to the real Intrepid one.

Wait another month, and by then you'll certainly have your new colour scheme.

Re:Wrong color desktop? Re:Screenshots (2, Informative)

gbarules2999 (1440265) | more than 5 years ago | (#27361571)

The default theme is still the same (I know; I'm looking at it) but it comes with some pretty nice alternatives in the Themes window.

Re:Screenshots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27360313)

Those screenshots are not of Remix. The Remix display format is different because it has to work on smaller screens. Here is a link to the real images. http://linux.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/Ubuntu-Netbook-Remix-Screenshot-42748.html

I have been using Remix on my Lenovo S10 for about a month and it is quick, clean, solid, and helps make my S10 a joy to use. (Ubuntu still has a problem with the mike, though).

I love Remix!!!

Re:Screenshots (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27360457)

Here is a link to a video of the Remix screen shots.

http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr

So (1)

Adolf Hipster (1486687) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359021)

I upgraded to the 9.04 alpha like 3 days ago. Is there anything different from that version?

Re:So (2, Informative)

Keith_Beef (166050) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359193)

You could look at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/beta [ubuntu.com] to find out.

Or wait until Saint George's Day.

Note: This is a beta release. Do not install it on production machines. The final stable version will be released on April 23rd, 2009.

K.

Re:So (1)

compro01 (777531) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359257)

That page specifies what has changed compared to 8.10, but not compared to the latest alpha.

Re:So (3, Informative)

Keith_Beef (166050) | more than 5 years ago | (#27362869)

Maybe this will be more use, then.

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-9.04-beta

It wasn't really difficult for me to find it, starting from the page whose link I posted...

about three click and twelve seconds, all told.

And if that is still not good enough, then I suggest you go back to whatever you usually do when you don't get everything spoon-fed to you.

K.

Re:So (1)

Ynot_82 (1023749) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359265)

if you keep your machine up to date,
then you have the beta already
you don't need to reinstall or anything

Re:So (5, Funny)

GMFTatsujin (239569) | more than 5 years ago | (#27362925)

Worst haiku ever.

Re:So (1)

gbarules2999 (1440265) | more than 5 years ago | (#27361595)

Not really. It's been about the same since early March. It's just stabilising at this point.

Bluetooth networking w/ Windows Mobile??? (1)

GweeDo (127172) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359125)

I love 8.10 on my Dell Mini 9 w/ Ubuntu Netbook Remix. The only thing I need still is to be able to use my Windows Mobile Phone as a modem over bluetooth (currently USB only).

Re:Bluetooth networking w/ Windows Mobile??? (1)

PrescriptionWarning (932687) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359789)

I was able to follow some FAQs that had me use PPP to forward ports over bluetooth, though it was used to get my palm mobile phone to load the internet over bluetooth. I imagine you could do the same but in reverse though its certainly no easy task.

What happens after Shuttleworth stops funding? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27359163)

What happens to Buntu after Shuttleworth stops funding it? Does it merge with some other distro? Does it get sold to Google?

What you should be asking... (2, Insightful)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359693)

what happens if *ubuntu becomes profitable? Most likely means that at least one major monopoly has been broken, and a number of truly competitive markets have been created.

Re:What you should be asking... (1)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 5 years ago | (#27361129)

what happens if *ubuntu becomes profitable?Most likely means that at least one major monopoly has been broken...

What, Red Hat and Novell aren't profitable?

Re:What you should be asking... (2, Interesting)

Xtifr (1323) | more than 5 years ago | (#27361431)

what happens if *ubuntu becomes profitable?

For a normal company, it would mean that it would become easier to pay their employees. For Ubuntu, it would mean that Mark Shuttleworth will have to find some other sink for his billions. :)

Most likely means that at least one major monopoly has been broken

Nope, doesn't mean that at all. There are already Linux companies making a profit. Making a profit simply means that you take in more money than you spend. It doesn't say anything about the size of your market share (although a large market share means you can take advantage of economies of scale, which can help make a profit). It is at least theoretically possible for a Linux company to make a profit with an installed base of only a few dozen. Which would hardly be a threat to anyone's monopoly. Now Ubuntu's business model means that they're going to have to have a much higher installed base than that before they are in any danger of making a profit, but they could still quite possibly make a profit without making a dent in any existing monopolies.

Re:What you should be asking... (1)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 5 years ago | (#27362157)

Nope, doesn't mean that at all. There are already Linux companies making a profit.
Ubuntu is MOSTLY geared towards the desktop. If he is profitable, then the Linux desktop is profitable. If that is the case, the monopoly is broken.

Re:What you should be asking... (1)

99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) | more than 5 years ago | (#27362615)

Ubuntu is MOSTLY geared towards the desktop. If he is profitable, then the Linux desktop is profitable. If that is the case, the monopoly is broken.

MS has never had an absolute monopoly in that there have always been people making money selling desktop Linux, even if all they did was repackage another company's work and resell it. In terms of economics or EU law, MS won't be at risk of losing their monopoly status on desktop OS's until their market share drops to about 70% and they're currently at about 99%.

Re:What happens after Shuttleworth stops funding? (1)

LingNoi (1066278) | more than 5 years ago | (#27360543)

Why would he stop funding it? It's starting to make a profit so there really isn't a reason to stop, in fact, if it's starting to make a profit maybe he's already stopped funding it.

Re:What happens after Shuttleworth stops funding? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27361223)

  • Why would he stop funding it?
  • there really isn't a reason to stop
  • maybe he's already stopped funding it.

You went from "no" to "yes" faster than a drunk girl on prom night.

Intel regressions not yet solved (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27359287)

Users of Intel video chipsets have reported performance regressions in Ubuntu 8.10 compared with previous releases. (252094) Although these performance issues have not been resolved by default in Ubuntu 9.04, a new experimental acceleration architecture option, DRI2/UXA, is available for Intel graphics users. Our testing has found this provides significant performance improvements for many users, but has also shown risk of severe stability problems, thus we are not yet providing to the general public. You can opt-in to enable this by running "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf", and adding Option "AccelMethod" "UXA" to the Device section of your xorg.conf. Users wishing to maximize stability should stay with the standard default acceleration method, "EXA".

Re:Intel regressions not yet solved (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27359669)

That is great to know!

Re:Intel regressions not yet solved (1)

the_one(2) (1117139) | more than 5 years ago | (#27362041)

It should also be noted that the beta still has problems with pulse-audio. I was pretty disappointed when i heard the crackly startup sound in ubuntu when I installed alpha 5. I believe it has gotten better since then but it's still not good. From ubuntuforums:

Re: New pulseaudio, problem again!
The current version, 0.9.14-0ubuntu10, has tuned delay parameters and reenabled glitch-free.

Most users will experience some audio aberrations (again) while the GNOME login sound is played. After approximately five seconds, the watermark size and buffer size will have settled, so you should no longer experience audio aberrations until the next time that the daemon autospawns.

I am attempting to address the major problems incrementally. For most Ubuntu users, this means:

1) daemon crashes to due snd_pcm_update_avail() not handling -kernel and -lib bogus data;
2) daemon autospawn race conditions;
3) daemon watermark/buffer size instability on initial spawn (which is the cause of your audio aberrations with system sounds).

On AAO? (1)

kmahan (80459) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359467)

Have they solved the problems of wired networking on the AAO? Since they broke it with a patched up Intrepid (though the original unpatched Intrepid works).

Re:On AAO? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27360425)

Yes. And I expect wireless networking to work out of the box by release too.

Yeee! (1)

Aphoxema (1088507) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359605)

I got a Wind a month ago and the first thing I did, and I seriously mean first thing, was install Ubuntu (8.04) on it as a second boot. Last week I clobbered the restore partition and Windows entirely and now it's all Ubuntu.

I got the version without bluetooth. Last week I managed to take the adapter I got for it, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833242001 [newegg.com] and put it inside where the stock adapter would go. There was even a harness for it taped inside of the unit, so I just cut down the wires I needed and soldered it to the male end of a USB connector. I even put a piece of foil and tape over the adapter to keep noise from interfering too much with it.

I love the simple hacks they did with Netbook Remix, it makes things feel so much simpler, and when I get the touchscreen mod that'll go good with it.

I know, not much on topic, I'm just excited about my laptop.

Webcam (2, Interesting)

Niris (1443675) | more than 5 years ago | (#27359897)

Now if only they'd get Pidgin or something to work with webcams for IMing. Still can't get it to work on aMSN or Mercury :/

Re:Webcam (4, Informative)

ianare (1132971) | more than 5 years ago | (#27361329)

Pidgin will be replaced by Empathy in future releases. It's still needs some work, but looks promising - it's very modular and integrates nicely with the rest of GNOME. It has video chat support.

Re:Webcam (1)

Niris (1443675) | more than 5 years ago | (#27361449)

Didn't know about that, awesome. Thanks :D

Re:Webcam (1)

QuantumRiff (120817) | more than 5 years ago | (#27362649)

Sadly, Empathy has Jabber video chat support. Their MSN and ICQ chat is still handled by libpurple, which is pidgin.

Re:Webcam (1)

nappingcracker (700750) | more than 5 years ago | (#27363037)

Where is that? I saw it as a feature of GNOME 2.26, but there was scant info about it. Got the scoop on Empathy video?

What kernel is in this release? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27359983)

I'm trying to look on the Ubuntu servers but they're getting hammered right now.

Will this Ubuntu release be using 2.6.29? The previous kernels have a serious filesystem issue [kernel.org] that often kills the whole machine on high performance systems. Supposed to be fixed in 2.6.29.

Re:What kernel is in this release? (2, Interesting)

MarcoG42 (1087205) | more than 5 years ago | (#27360021)

I upgraded from Intrepid to Jaunty during Alpha 6, which at the time was using 2.6.29. I upgraded this morning, and it appears they have reverted to 2.6.28. I'm not sure why.

Re:What kernel is in this release? (1)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 5 years ago | (#27361201)

Will this Ubuntu release be using 2.6.29?

I doubt it. Aren't the odd-numbered point releases the "development branch"?

Re:What kernel is in this release? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27361427)

Heh... no. That was done away with a long time ago. :)

Netbook remix? For Intel Atoms, it would seem (4, Informative)

Bearhouse (1034238) | more than 5 years ago | (#27360115)

Find out more here:

http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr [canonical.com]

Selected quotes:

"Ubuntu Netbook Remix is optimised to run on a new category of affordable Internet-centric devices called netbooks. It includes a new consumer-friendly interface that allows users to quickly and easily get on-line and use their favourite applications. This interface is optimised for a retail sales environment."

Wonder what that last bit means? It flashes 'buy me now!!!! 50% discount!!!' on the screen?

"A remix is a 'respun' version of Ubuntu built for a specific purpose. Although Canonical has encouraged community projects to use this terminology for some time, this is the first time that Canonical has used it. We are using it to differentiate from an 'Edition' which we consider a complete version with daily builds suitable for the average user with no additional work beyond installing the CD."

"All of the initial Ubuntu Netbook remixes combine optimisations from the Moblin project for Intel® Atomâ processors and it is specially designed for netbooks. Intel and Canonical are working to create a new computing experience across a rapidly expanding category of portable devices."

Wintel is dead, long live Buntel?

Re:Netbook remix? For Intel Atoms, it would seem (1)

Chris Pimlott (16212) | more than 5 years ago | (#27362331)

The Atom CPU is listed as a minimum system requirement, it should run just fine on a 'normal' Intel CPU (and I'd wager it's fine on AMDs as well).

Re:Netbook remix? For Intel Atoms, it would seem (2, Informative)

migla (1099771) | more than 5 years ago | (#27362755)

"Ubuntu Netbook Remix is optimised to run on a new category of affordable Internet-centric devices called netbooks."

Not so much optimised, that the installer would allow me to see any buttons (such as "next", "back", "cancel" or whatever they may be, I can't see them!) on the 800x480 screen of the eeepc 701...

I managed to install it by pressing tab and enter blindly at appropriate times, though.

lpia? (1)

radish (98371) | more than 5 years ago | (#27360339)

Does this version come with the lpia kernel? I recently got a Dell Mini and am still using the lpia-enabled 8.04 distro it comes with. I'd like to give Netbook Remix a go but I'm concerned that the stock x86 kernel will reduce battery life (which is already not quite as great as I'd hoped for).

Anyone know the status of the lpia stuff?

Re:lpia? (1)

spikeb (966663) | more than 5 years ago | (#27360609)

it is i386

Re:lpia? (1)

Enry (630) | more than 5 years ago | (#27361453)

Does this version come with the lpia kernel? I recently got a Dell Mini and am still using the lpia-enabled 8.04 distro it comes with. I'd like to give Netbook Remix a go but I'm concerned that the stock x86 kernel will reduce battery life (which is already not quite as great as I'd hoped for).

Anyone know the status of the lpia stuff?

I have 8.10 running the lpia port on my mini 9. I found some site online that showed how to install and configure the UNR components so that it looks like the 8.04 version.

8.04 had a few serious issues (like using ssh over wireless) that made me drop it pretty quickly. The 8.10 kernel doesn't like one of the WPA modes and will hang hard if you try to connect, so I'm looking forward to 9.04 and upgrading to that.

On a side note, I wanted to compile some software for my mini without wasting its SSD with gcc and all the development tools I need. You can easily install an lpia port in VirtualBox and it works quite nicely.

Random Ubuntu/Linux question (1)

RingDev (879105) | more than 5 years ago | (#27360361)

Anyone know of a remote desktop solution for Ubuntu that can connect to a Windows 2k or newer box? I've been thinking about making the jump, all of the other tool I need to do my standard work at home I know where to get. But I need to be able to remote into work over a VPN to Windows servers.

-Rick

Re:Random Ubuntu/Linux question (1)

Bios_Hakr (68586) | more than 5 years ago | (#27360649)

Not the best solution, but I run VirtualBox inside Ubuntu to get access to my legacy apps.

Re:Random Ubuntu/Linux question (1)

bWareiWare.co.uk (660144) | more than 5 years ago | (#27360669)

rDesktop is the equivalent to Windows Terminal Services Client, never had any trouble with it.

Ubuntu on my mini-9 had this this, and 'tsclient' a graphical frontend, pre-installed.

Re:Random Ubuntu/Linux question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27360673)

Anyone know of a remote desktop solution for Ubuntu that can connect to a Windows 2k or newer box?

You mean besides the terminal server client (tsclient) and VNC? No, I can't think of one.

Re:Random Ubuntu/Linux question (3, Informative)

mweather (1089505) | more than 5 years ago | (#27360725)

Ubuntu ships with an RDP client.

Re:Random Ubuntu/Linux question (1)

ardle (523599) | more than 5 years ago | (#27360735)

VirtualBox (deb available via package manager) to create a Windows VM.
Install Windows in that VM.
Download and install your VPN client to your virtual Windows.
Worked for me :-)
Useful link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox [ubuntu.com] . The VirtualBox configuration bit is useful here: as I said, VirtualBox (Open Source Edition) is available in Ubuntu Package Manager, so you don't have to do the apt-get stuff...

Re:Random Ubuntu/Linux question (4, Informative)

Xtifr (1323) | more than 5 years ago | (#27361133)

Anyone know of a remote desktop solution for Ubuntu that can connect to a Windows 2k or newer box?

Yes. Ubuntu. RDP works out of the box--I use it nearly daily. Applications->Internet->Terminal Server Client. There's also an panel applet front end if you'd prefer that--very handy if you have several Winboxes you need to connect to on a regular basis.

Re:Random Ubuntu/Linux question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27361229)

Terminal Server Client (package name tsclient) is installed by default.

Re:Random Ubuntu/Linux question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27363279)

rdesktop -g $RESOLUTION_SETTING -a $BIT_DEPTH -u $USERNAME $IP_ADDRESS

example:

rdesktop -g 1024x768 -a 16 -u billg 192.168.0.2

Kubuntu with KDE 4.2.1 (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27360527)

Kubuntu with KDE 4.2.1 looks fabulous too! Just installed Kubuntu Beta and KDE is totally sweet in this release. There is even a native KDE4 Network Manager that looks great and works well.

The Plasma widgets remain a bit crashy and buggy - Comic Strip won't take the configure button off even after Strips are added, Moving widgets crashes Plasma etc.

But yeah, getting there. By KDE 4.3 release things ought to be totally rocking.

Try it out people - you won't be disappointed.

Re:Kubuntu with KDE 4.2.1 (2, Interesting)

indi0144 (1264518) | more than 5 years ago | (#27361519)

Sure I will try it this time. I tried Ubuntu 9.04 Alpha AMD64 the good thing it's that the new kernel supports all my hardware and it's a lot faster but I have problems with the nVidia 180 drivers on an integrated GeForce 8200. Not even editing the xorg by hand can get the stuff to display properly.

Err, theres only DVD download option via torrent but since you can update to stable release from beta I think it's worth it.

http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/beta/dvd/ [ubuntu.com]

I hope it works fine with unetbootin, installing from USB takes no more than 20 minutes including language updates :)

Re:Kubuntu with KDE 4.2.1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27362305)

As a matter of policy I avoid anything nVidia like the plague - my desktop came with Nvidia card but I threw it away for older, reliable, cheap ATI x1650 - don't have to worry a bit about kernel and drivers and I still get decent 2D/3D acceleration.

Not saying you should do the same, but for me NVidia isn't worth its problems on Linux.

!Ubuntu (1)

Tubal-Cain (1289912) | more than 5 years ago | (#27361007)

Finally, someone has broken the 25+ year old too-many-open-windows-and-chaos desktop paradigm

Palm? DOS?

I've been using this for a month with ext4 (3, Informative)

revjtanton (1179893) | more than 5 years ago | (#27361891)

I installed this a month ago almost by painstakingly finding the i386 iso of Jaunty and installing the netbook remix stuff independently.

I've got a eee 900 with the 16GB SSDHD and let me tell you: this thing boots and runs quick! I've tried XP and the UNR Ibex version and the Jaunty build using ext4 filing system blows everything else out of the water with all variations of start-up times. There are problems, however, with certain aspects of the remix.

There is significant lag issues with the interface itself. I believe this may have something to do with the size of my swap partition, but thus far I've been too lazy to format or change anything since the partial upgrade a few days ago.

Its only the remix that reacts slow, everything else is fast, fast, fast! ext4 certainly adds something to boot times and it looks like this Ubuntu build will really be one, coupled with netbooks, that can somewhat pierce the Microsoft stronghold on the general public....eh, probably not.

Re:I've been using this for a month with ext4 (1)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 5 years ago | (#27362933)

What can you possibly need swap for on a Netbook?

Re:I've been using this for a month with ext4 (1)

revjtanton (1179893) | more than 5 years ago | (#27363229)

That's what I thought too...why would the swap matter, especially when it comes to this problem? I was poking around trying different forums to see if anyone has had a similar problem and everyone seems to say it has something to do with how the gma950 processes the graphics of the interface, and apparently increasing the size of your swap to at least the same size as your RAM fixes the lag. I haven't tried it myself, but I'm planning on messing with this netbook a bit more this weekend now that the beta is more out there (there will more forum posts of bugs, fixes, and challenges to fix :) ). I am skeptical that this will solve the lag problem, but we'll see.

Re:I've been using this for a month with ext4 (1)

abreiner (970896) | more than 5 years ago | (#27363351)

suspend-to-disk and for extra memory since netbooks come with little memory
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