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More IT Pros Could Turn To E-Crime In Poor Economy

ScuttleMonkey posted about 5 years ago | from the what-would-mitnick-do dept.

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snydeq writes to mention that a recent survey by KPMG shows that many people feel that out-of-work IT workers will be much more tempted to turn to criminal activities due to the down economy. This, coupled with an E-crime survey that shows fraud committed by managers, employees, and customers tripled between 2007 and 2008 paints an interesting picture. "In other survey results, 45 percent of respondents who handle critical national infrastructure said they are seeing an increase in the number of attacks on their systems. Fifty-one percent of respondents from the same category said the technical sophistication of those attacks is getting better. Sixty-eight percent said that of all kinds of malicious code they felt Trojan horse programs — ones that are designed to look harmless but can steal data along with other functions — had the most impact on their businesses. Rootkits are the next highest concern, followed by spyware, worms, viruses, mobile malicious code and, finally, adware."

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Heh (5, Insightful)

Niris (1443675) | about 5 years ago | (#27361779)

This is kind of a duh thing, isn't it? When the economy goes south, crime of all sorts that leads to profit increases. There just happens to be a lot of people out there with enough background knowledge in IT to make a profit off of criminal acts in IT.

Re:Heh (2, Funny)

Jurily (900488) | about 5 years ago | (#27362261)

There just happens to be a lot of people out there with enough background knowledge in IT to make a profit off of criminal acts in IT.

Also, there is no suck thing as "E-Crime".

Unless you want to say an axe murderer is only a misguided tree cutting professional.

Freudian slip? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27362289)

Also, there is no suck thing as "E-Crime".

No suck thing? Freudian slip? So what's on YOUR mind?

Re:Freudian slip? (1)

Jurily (900488) | about 5 years ago | (#27362367)

Umm. My spell checker takes the most often used words into account.

Re:Freudian slip? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27362839)

Umm. My spell checker takes the most often used words into account.

That's why spell checkers are no substitute for proofreading. A short post like that one wouldn't take but a few seconds to proofread.

To be honest, I don't see the point of spellcheckers. Spelling isn't difficult; if it is, then that just means you need to put a bit more effort into it. So, if you are proofreading, you'll catch any typos etc. as well as the grammatical and stylistic issues that a spellchecker will miss or won't do so well as a human being. If that is the case, what's the point of running a spellchecker if you're proofreading anyway?

Re:Freudian slip? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27368519)

English spelling really is difficult. In other languages they don't have contests for children to demonstrate the grueling hours they've endured learning it.

Re:Heh (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27362677)

Not really. I'd just say, "When economy is bad, crime increases."

I expect IT people are probably less susceptible to layoff than, say, warehouse laborers. I'd also guess that they're generally more honest than your average employee since they're often in a position where they need to be.

So really, I'd guess there will be more crime all around, but a disproportionately low percentage of it will come from out-of-work IT people.

Long in short, article is total FUD.

Re:Heh (1)

NeverVotedBush (1041088) | about 5 years ago | (#27363221)

Maybe, but incident after incident links IT insiders to malicious activity on the systems they administer.

I would also like to think that IT people are both more honest and less likely to be laid off, but people are people and there are quite a few employers out there who don't really appreciate how valuable their IT people are.

I think many who get laid off will probably be tempted if they don't have luck finding new positions.

Re:Heh (1)

billcopc (196330) | about 5 years ago | (#27366329)

I would like to think that people more often find links in I.T. because it's an information-heavy environment. The average tech workplaces keeps track of everything in these magical files called system logs.

Convenience stores don't keep a written journal of every person walking in and out, and exactly which items they consider, with their name, address and exact time.

Combine that with the fact that electronic crimes typically require some sort of court case or long-winded investigation to nail, vs a couple of dumb cops with sticks. Lawyers procure and produce a shit-ton more documentation than a pair of tired cops.

Re:Heh (2, Insightful)

ssintercept (843305) | about 5 years ago | (#27364493)

a very duh thing indeed. from the linked article: "In poor economy, more IT pros could turn to e-crime" (emphasis mine).

you could say that about anybody or any profession during hard times.

Apparently, IT Pros are Pikers... (5, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 5 years ago | (#27361799)

Financial Pros already managed to turn crime into a poor economy.

I know what I must do. (1)

RulerOf (975607) | about 5 years ago | (#27361863)

Financial Pros already managed to turn crime into a poor economy.

And it has fallen upon our shoulders to turn the poor economy back into a haven for profitable crime!

I, for one, humbly, selflessly, and with a strong sense of duty accept this honor on behalf profession and my country; nay, the world! The VIjAGRA e-tailers are calling our names!

Criminal activities (3, Insightful)

Narpak (961733) | about 5 years ago | (#27361841)

Once a person out of desperation, or greed, turns to crime to make money for the necessities of life; it is only natural that they use whatever skills they have to the task. An increase in unemployment among IT professionals, and a tough job-marked all around, this sort of development don't surprise me.

Re:Criminal activities (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27362063)

I have already looked into this line of work. Not because I like it, but I like to have an income ...

we need an e-Serif (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27361871)

Quickly before this thing explodes any further.

Re:we need an e-Serif (5, Funny)

eln (21727) | about 5 years ago | (#27361921)

I agree...we have been sans-Serif for too long!

Re:we need an e-Serif (1)

Hillgiant (916436) | about 5 years ago | (#27363477)

I was going to make a joke like that, but decided it would be too kerny.

Re:we need an e-Serif (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27369255)

Indeed, such a sordid tail could descender to a level that is only safe for Anonymous.

Re:we need an e-Serif (1)

leamanc (961376) | about 5 years ago | (#27363177)

I wish /. would go back to using a serif font. Nobody told CmdrTaco or Jimbo Wales at Wikipedia that sans-serif fonts are meant for headlines and other large text.

Re:we need an e-Serif (1)

indi0144 (1264518) | about 5 years ago | (#27363489)

You can change the default display font in your browser options, even in IE5 you can do that.

Re:we need an e-Serif (1)

leamanc (961376) | about 5 years ago | (#27363923)

Already done that; Slashdot's CSS overrides it. Yeah, you can set your browser to always enforce its own font settings, but then you ruin other sites that get it right.

Re:we need an e-Serif (1)

Ashriel (1457949) | about 5 years ago | (#27365421)

Huh. I didn't even know most you were looking at a sans-serif font. I only see Times New Roman for these posts (Arial and New Courier are also used, but not for general purposes).

I didn't have to tell Firefox to force anything; your comment made me look at my font settings for the first time since moving up to Firefox 3. Apparently, I have to specifically allow pages to use their fonts rather than mine.

FAQ (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27361877)

I googled for the ecrime howto but couldn't find it. Link please.

Re:FAQ (4, Informative)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | about 5 years ago | (#27362409)

I googled for the ecrime howto but couldn't find it. Link please.

Try reading this zine [phrack.com] and this zine, too [2600.com] . This is also recommended [darkreading.com] . Try here, too [darknet.org.uk] . Start searching forums, IRC, etc. Subscribe to all the major vulnerability sites, too. Learn to code, if you don't already know how. Get skills in C, assembler, Java, SQL, Visual Basic, Python, PHP, Perl, Unix, Linux, Windows, DNS, TCP/IP, routing protocols, Apache, MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle, etc. Understand how networks and systems work, architecturally speaking, from a high-level all the way down to the physical hardware.

The learning curve is pretty steep for anyone who wishes to ascend beyond the level of 'l337 skr1p7 k1dd13'.

Be aware, however, that the penalties for getting caught are very high. Think Kevin Mitnick.

Re:FAQ (1)

Mister Whirly (964219) | about 5 years ago | (#27363393)

Kevin Mitnick? So if I get caught I will be facing a sweet corporate job and get to author a few books on security? How can I get caught today?


I did get to meet Kevin at a conference a few years back. It was disappointing. It was like meeting a radio DJ - he looked/seemed nothing at all like I had imagined him in my mind.

Re:FAQ (1)

billcopc (196330) | about 5 years ago | (#27366387)

You mean he's just an average joe with books to sell ?

*SHUDDER*

The guy is smart. That doesn't automagically make him a super-outgoing entertaining celebrity, no more than any of us. I don't know what you were expecting, but he is not going to change your life. He's just a guy like you, likes to push buttons and think outside the box.

Re:FAQ (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27364781)

This is a joke. Why is it modded informative?

screw that (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27361953)

things get that bad I'm turning to drug manufacturing. anyone with half a brain can do it, and finding ingredients/instructions is dirt simple.

Oblig. Office Space reference (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27361967)

"You have two options: unemployment or early retirement."

Re:Oblig. Office Space reference (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27362525)

And if even if you do get caught, they'll send to one of those white collar resort prisons. You know they let you have conjugal visits there?

Re:Oblig. Office Space reference (2, Interesting)

jmelchio (681199) | about 5 years ago | (#27362783)

I think you're forgetting one option; you could become an entrepeneur. Then again, I might be 'Jumping to Conclusions'.

Re:Oblig. Office Space reference (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27363003)

Yeah, but first I'd have to come up with some great idea. You know, like the Pet Rock.

Re:Oblig. Office Space reference (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27369201)

But I though it's illegal to do anything but work for minimum wage with no benefits/severance/job security at a giant factory.

Erm? How is this bad? (3, Insightful)

Jonas Buyl (1425319) | about 5 years ago | (#27361989)

So if 45% says the attacks are on the rise that means 55% said attacks are getting less or equally frequent, right? The 51% is pretty much the same thing. Some analysis you got there.

Re:Erm? How is this bad? (1)

flyingfsck (986395) | about 5 years ago | (#27362241)

Yup, apparently 77% thinks that attacks are getting less sophisticated.

This is the epitome of Sloshdat reporting: Take some bogus statistics and then jump to absolutely any conclusion you want, irrespective of what the numbers mean.

Re:Erm? How is this bad? (5, Funny)

Kugrian (886993) | about 5 years ago | (#27364669)

This is the epitome of Sloshdat reporting..

Sloshdat: Drinks for nerds. Drinks that matter.

Re:Erm? How is this bad? (1)

Drathos (1092) | about 5 years ago | (#27366585)

I was thinking more along the lines of:

Sloshdat: Brews for nerds. Drinks that matter.

Re:Erm? How is this bad? (2, Informative)

ConsumerOfMany (942944) | about 5 years ago | (#27362339)

If you survey 100 people who were mugged once last year about how many times they have been mugged this year and 50% said the same (lets say 1) and 50% said increased to 2, then you would have a 50% increase (from 100 to 150 total) this year. So yeas, these stats can be perfectly valid.

Re:Erm? How is this bad? (1)

billcopc (196330) | about 5 years ago | (#27366411)

Right, but they said "same or less", which muddies up the results.

You could theoretically have 50% increase, and the other half decrease, canceling each other out, which is the point the GP was trying to hammer through your cocky little skull.

Thats weird.. I just got this in my email.. (4, Funny)

mewsenews (251487) | about 5 years ago | (#27362017)

Mr. Joe Plomber
Representative, Accounting Department.
AIG, United States

Dear Sir ,

I am Plmber, joe, the Represenative in charge of Auditing and Accounting section of AIG of USA with due respect and regards. I have decided to contact you on a business transaction that will be very beneficial to both of us at the end of the transaction.

During our investigation and auditing in this bank, my department came across a very huge sum of money belonging to Bernie MAdoff who died on March 12 in a hunting accident and the fund has been dormant in his/her account with this bank without any claim of the fund in our custody either from his family or relation.

Although personally, I kept this information secret within myself to enable the whole transactions and idea be splendid and successful during the time of execution.

The said amount was USD$ 5000000,Five Million. I am overjoyed to say that with the introduction of internet and Website, I was opportune and lucky to have come across your Contact through this satellite media. As it may Interest you to know, Meanwhile all the arrangement to put claim over this asset as the bonafide next of kin to the deceased, get the required approval and transfer this money to a foreign account has been put in place.

Directives and needed information will be forwarded to you as soon as you indicate your interest and willingness to helpfully assist us and also benefit your self through this amazing business opportunity.

In fact I could have done this deal alone but because Of my position in this country as a civil servant, we are not allowed to claim a foreign account, this is the actual reason why it will require a intermedary Or consultant who will forward claims as the next of kin. With affidavit of trust to this bank and also Present a foreign account where he will need the money to be retransfer into. I will not fail to assure you that this transaction is 100% cromulent.

On smooth conclusion of this transaction, you will be entitled to 14% of the total Sum as gratification, while 3% will be set aside upon conclusion, to take care of expenses that may arise during the time Of transfer both local and international like shipping, bribes, e.t.c, while 78% will be for me and my partner.

Please, you have been advised to keep very confidential as I am still in service and intend to retire from service after I conclude this stunning deal with you. I will be watch the whole situation here in this bank until you confirm the money in your account and ask us to come down to your country for subsequent sharing of the fund according to percentages indicated and to discuss incredible investment opportunities, either in your country or any country you helpfully advise us to invest in.

All other necessary information will be sent to you When I hear from you. I suggest you get back to me on my private e-mail address: princeamir@worldzia.ua as Soon as possible stating your wish in this deal.

Yours pleasantly,

Plobmer, Joe Agust

Re:Thats weird.. I just got this in my email.. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27362661)

This puzzles me. With our universities pumping out so many unemployed and under-employed arts graduates, why can't the spammers find someone who can write grammatical, plausible English?

Re:Thats weird.. I just got this in my email.. (1)

billcopc (196330) | about 5 years ago | (#27366441)

Because the arts graduates expect no less than $150/hour for their time, as they so joyously read in the recruitment propaganda that enticed them to blow a small fortune on tuition.

Re:Thats weird.. I just got this in my email.. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27362981)

Dir sir/maddam,

My name is chaney, Dick, who is currently taking care of the widow of Bernie Madoff who dies on March 12 in a hunting accident. Ms MAdoff is indebted to your countries tax official the sum of two million USD $2000000 for the sales of real property during 2007.

Unfortunately, Ms Madoff is unable to work and after her husbands passage, does not have the funds to pay off her tax debts. I was personally good friends with Bernine madoff and with him on the tragic day of his death. He told me about an account he kept secret from his wife as a surprise with his life savings. But since Ms Madoff was not listed on the account, she is unable to collect her husbands savings to pay off her tax debt and prevent her incarceration.

I believe that Plmber, joe, from the AIG accountants department has contacted you regarding a transaction where he/she is to take 78% of the proceeds. As a good friend to the madoff family, I wish to make an offer alternate to you that is beneficial to us both.

Joe Plober informed me that in light of Ms. Madoffs situation, it will be best if you transfer 75% of the total sum to me to pay off Ms. Madoffs tax indebtness, while you retain %20 of the total sum, with 10% set aside for expenses that may arouse during the transaction such as shipping, bribes, blajack and hookers.

I think you will agree that this arragement benefits you and Ms Madoff moreso than the original agreement with Mr Plober.

If you agree to these terms, I will send you all necessary information and holding accounts for your deposit upon receipt.

Forever yours,

Cheney, Dick Sr.

Re:Thats weird.. I just got this in my email.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27363263)

you forgot to spell every name differently

Gooooooood; let the hate flow through you.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27362089)

The DarkSide of the force is a pathway to many abilities; some consider to be unnatural.

Well Duh? (0, Troll)

Ronald Dumsfeld (723277) | about 5 years ago | (#27362173)

What do they expect? IT staff that got their jobs outsourced to India to break into their old companies systems and fix the crud written by the people who got their jobs before they'd finished paying off their college loans?

Poor economy affecting IT less (3, Interesting)

cryfreedomlove (929828) | about 5 years ago | (#27362201)

I'm not buying this story at all. I live and work in Silicon Valley. I do see lots of folks getting laid off at a higher rate than in the past. At the same time, I see the same folks quickly finding new work. Sometimes it involves a pay cut, often it does not. I just don't see IT in this area being affected as deeply as other professions in other parts of the country. It is not bad enough in IT that good people are turning to lives of crime to make ends meet.

Re:Poor economy affecting IT less (3, Insightful)

jellomizer (103300) | about 5 years ago | (#27362499)

I think most of this is from self proclaimed IT Pros, vs. Real ones.

Re:Poor economy affecting IT less (1)

Intrinsic (74189) | about 5 years ago | (#27365423)

LOL, I'm not exactly sure what you mean be self-proclaimed and real pros. But if you mean school educated -vs- experience driven. Ill put my money on experience driven any day of the week.

A Real pro, is someone who is dedicated to providing an excellent service and making sure he has the expertise to back it up when the time comes. Everything is is just, well academic.

Re:Poor economy affecting IT less (1)

causality (777677) | about 5 years ago | (#27362527)

I'm not buying this story at all. I live and work in Silicon Valley. I do see lots of folks getting laid off at a higher rate than in the past. At the same time, I see the same folks quickly finding new work. Sometimes it involves a pay cut, often it does not. I just don't see IT in this area being affected as deeply as other professions in other parts of the country. It is not bad enough in IT that good people are turning to lives of crime to make ends meet.

Perhaps the phenomenon of outsourcing has already gradually done the damage to this industry that a poor economy would have done more suddenly. That's just an idea; I don't really have the economic understanding to know how to determine whether there is any truth to that, but that was my first impression when I saw your post. Maybe someone who does understand economics can tell me if there is any validity to it.

Re:Poor economy affecting IT less (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27362679)

Haven't you seen Office Space? Tough times at work lead to criminal schemes! Science fact.

Re:Poor economy affecting IT less (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27362855)

Yeah, the article doesn't think so either. Just the asshat that wrote the summary.

Re:Poor economy affecting IT less (1)

Slider451 (514881) | about 5 years ago | (#27363065)

It is not bad enough in IT that good people are turning to lives of crime to make ends meet.

More likely they were never good people.

Break out Paul Simon... (3, Funny)

GPLDAN (732269) | about 5 years ago | (#27362287)

The problem is all inside your head, my manager said to me
The answer is easy if you take it logically
Id like to help you in your struggle to be free
There must be fifty ways to leave your employer
He said its really not my habit to intrude
Furthermore, I hope my meaning wont be lost or misconstrued
But Ill repeat myself at the risk of being crude
There must be fifty ways to leave your employer
Fifty ways to leave your employer


Just slip a virus out the back, jack
Make a new botnet plan, stan
You dont need to be coy, roy
Just get yourself free with stolen accounts!
Hop on the ddos bus, gus
You dont need to discuss much
Just drop off the encryption key, lee
And get yourself free
He said it grieves me so to see you in such pain
I wish there was something I could do to make you smile again
I said I appreciate that and would you please explain
why the fuck you laid me off


He said why dont we both just sleep on it tonight
And I believe in the morning youll begin to see the light
And then he blew me off and I realized he probably was right
There must be fifty ways to leave your employer
Fifty ways to leave your employer

I wonder if you go to the (2, Interesting)

geekoid (135745) | about 5 years ago | (#27362381)

ePrison for committing an eCrime.

Re:I wonder if you go to the (1)

value_added (719364) | about 5 years ago | (#27362453)

ePrison for committing an eCrime

Good one!

You'll have to admit, though, it's an improvement from the current state of affairs in which the the "cyber" prefix is applied to everything.

Maybe it's time for a Slashdot poll so we ccan decide what to call these things going forward. My vote is Crime 2.0.

Re:I wonder if you go to the (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27362773)

Yea, they make you stay in second life for 5 years

Economics of IT crime (1)

32771 (906153) | about 5 years ago | (#27362407)

I wonder whether anyone trying to earn anything trough black hattery will find it easy in those tough times. I'm sure not all parts of the world have been hit equally and so becomming an international criminal could become even more of a necessity for the so inclined. Maybe they should try getting some of that money back from Nigeria.

I also have doubts that SPAM is going be on the upturn and I guess the article already makes clear that people who were smart enough to not make the obvious financial mistakes will be the target, "The reality is we are seeing more sophisticated attacks aimed at sophisticated people."

What I'm wondering is whether it makes any sense for employed people to steal from their employer, sixty percent of all people thought that their colleagues would do that, but that doesn't mean much. They probably were overly pessimistic just to be on the safe side. I mean the real world isn't like Office Space.

looks harmelss (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27362557)

"malicious code that looks harmless"
If you go to the trouble of looking at the actual code, what is the point of letting it run if it looks harmless? (other than xkcd)

I don't know who the wiseass is (4, Funny)

Critical Facilities (850111) | about 5 years ago | (#27362665)

that tagged this story "eHamburglar", but I want to thank you. For whatever reason, that struck me so funny that I laughed out loud...so loudly that I can only truly call it a "guffaw", and as a result, everyone within earshot of my office is convinced I'm off my meds.

who is and who is not (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27362681)

you are so silly... the only difference is that on difficult times you see who "is" and who "is not"

Stop CORPRATE SOCIALSM: +1, PatRIOTic (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27362711)

The United States of America is becoming more fascist with its bailout of the financial institution elites.

Call this 1-800-FUC-KGOP [huffingtonpost.com] voice your concern and stop the rampant SOCIALISM that is eroding the presence of NASCAR, Rush Limbaugh, and the NRA.

Yours In Capitalism,
Kilgore Trout

Duh? (1)

sandbenders (301132) | about 5 years ago | (#27362725)

Ok, so they ask if attacks are increasing, and 45% say they are, presumably meaning 55% said no. That's an increase? That sounds like a decrease.

51% say the technical sophistication is increasing? Well, as time goes on, technology gets more sophisticated. It seems like attacks would follow that trend too.

This doesn't sound like a real story, it sounds like someone coming up with an idea and trying to make the statistics sound right. Didn't Mark Twain say something about lies, d*mn lies and statistics?

Ooh! Look! Shiny! (1)

WickedLilMonkies (1285120) | about 5 years ago | (#27362879)

Let's see:

1. Attacks are getting more sophisticated. Is this really unexpected? As countermeasures are developed against existing attacks, they have to get more sophisticated.

2. "...many people feel that out-of-work IT workers will be much more tempted..."; duh. Ask John Q. Public if X worker in Y field might be tempted to commit crimes against the field they have experience in when the econmic pressure is on, and Mr. Public will always say yes.

TFA doesn't actually actually say anything about out of work IT people actually turning to crime or link crime to the economy in any meaningful way.

Its a good thing. (2, Funny)

mevets (322601) | about 5 years ago | (#27362959)

Look at how mired in poorly functioning, slow, useless software the entire IT world is. These guys could bring about the end of crime....

Re:Its a good thing. (1)

jfeser2 (1517427) | about 5 years ago | (#27363843)

Yeah, a virus that takes about half an hour to load, and bothers you the whole time with flashing popups.

Would someone turn this into "Ask Slashdot"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27362985)

My story submission: "Hello. I am an out-of-work IT worker and will be much more tempted to turn to criminal activities due to the down economy. Can someone please give me some pointers? Thanks."

So could plumbers, autoworkers, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27363031)

and financial executives.

oh, wait....

Yep. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27363205)

If I had a buyer for it, I'd definitely sell my company's data for whatever I could get for it. Hell, I'd give them Administrator accounts on my Active Directory network if they asked and paid for it.

Having my department's budget slashed to where I literally can no longer deploy new workstations or printers because we don't have sufficient surge protectors to plug them into or enough wall outlets, my employees fired to where I am now doing the job of about four people, and being made to work 70-hour work weeks on salary are terribly frustrating. Oh, and they're only paying me 40% of the average salary for the market I live in yet the company routinely spends thousands upon thousands of dollars per week in wasted fuel, electricity, and even outright money as I watched one of our customer service agents discard an entire case of blank magnetic cards (~1000) because she spilled coke on the outside cardboard box and didn't want to clean it up. The cards wouldn't even have been touched!

Nobody else is hiring, I can't get a raise, and my savings run out after this month. My current job pays less money than my rent, utilities, car and food monthly cost to say nothing about having "disposable income" that I hear so much about these days. My savings will be dry after having let me survive being "under-employed" for the last 6 month; I had about 3 total months worth of expenses saved up when the job trouble started. I have two months of available credit after that. Then, I'm living in my van or a storage unit, or something.

My friends are all very sympathetic, and have all volunteered that I can do couch rotations for a day or two at a time if it goes that way but that's only marginally better. None of them are in a position to lend me money, not that I'd ever allow them to do that anyway. And my family can't either.

I can't get another job because I'm already working 10 hours a day, 7 days a week -- I guess I could replace "sleep" with "work" but that won't hold for more than a week or so. I guess if I get really desperate, I could sell my car for the ~9k I can get for it and that'll buy me some more time.

In conclusion: Yes. This is happening. And there's probably nothing anyone can do about it.

There are other things to worry about (1)

Calyth (168525) | about 5 years ago | (#27364099)

Like those CEOs who are making a reaping despite the bad economy opening some rootkit and exposing information. That's a legit worry.

If an IT guy is going to turn bad, they would've done that a long time ago. They're in the best position to avoid detection anyways.

Article fails statistics (1)

nasor (690345) | about 5 years ago | (#27364723)

So 45 percent of respondents said that they are seeing an increasing number of attacks? HOW MUCH are they increasing? If 45% of respondents said that attacks are up 0.01%, I don't really care. Way to not give me enough information to form an opinion, article...

the future is sooner than I thought (1)

jollyreaper (513215) | about 5 years ago | (#27364807)

"There's only four things we do better than anyone else: music, movies, microcode, and high speed pizza delivery."

The former hedge-fund managers are hogging all the pizza delivery jobs, guess that means the coders are going to have to stick with crimes you can prepend with "cyber."

Spurious (1)

impuck (1517489) | about 5 years ago | (#27365089)

Of course I didn't RFA, but I did read another recent article that stated IT unemployment was just shy of %2, and really hasn't fluctuated much with the recent downturn. With the assumption that the less then %2 aren't necessarily nefarious, I contend that this position is a bit detached from reality.

ma8e (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27366409)

get how people can DECLINED IN MARKET to happen. My onational gay nigger
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