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Obamas Give Queen Elizabeth an iPod

samzenpus posted more than 5 years ago | from the obama-save-the-queen dept.

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Ponca City, We love you writes "What did the Obamas give Queen Elizabeth II on Wednesday when they arrived at Buckingham Palace? An Obama aide reported the queen was given an iPod loaded with video and photos of her 2007 trip to the United States, as well as songs and accessories. She also received a rare songbook signed by the composer Richard Rodgers. The gift issue had come up after Prime Minister Gordon Brown visited the White House last month. Mr. Brown gave Mr. Obama a pen holder carved from the timber of an anti-slave ship, receiving in return a DVD box set of American movies, igniting a torrent of criticism in the British press. According to news reports, the queen gave the Obamas a silver-framed signed photograph — a gift she gives to all visiting dignitaries."

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Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428381)

Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Reports
(Note: We are not a GOP-sters, Republicans or affiliated with any parties, and as George Washington warned against parties We do not believe in parties and, unlike most people, We evaluate every issue on a case by case basis and do not defer to the judgments of politicians who are corrupted and untrustworthy as a group.)

Obama is controlled by the same people as Bush see The Obama Deception documentary [youtube.com]

Yuan Forwards Show China May Buy Fewer Treasuries, UBS Says [bloomberg.com]
Anemic Treasury auction effects felt beyond bonds [reuters.com]
The Sherminator Kicks Some Wall Street Ass [dailybail.com]
China Angry That Fed Is Deliberately Destroying The Dollar [bloomberg.com]
China suggests switch from dollar as reserve currency [bbc.co.uk]
What are the reserve currencies? [wsj.net]
Anatomy of a taxpayer giveaway to investors [ml-implode.com]
Geithner rescue package 'robbery of the American people' [telegraph.co.uk]
Geithner just put only the rich in Titanics lifeboats [examiner.com]
Geithner Plan Will Rob US Taxpayers [cnbc.com]
A False Choice [viewfromsi...valley.com]
Bargain-hunting house buyers wearing on sellers ajc.com [ajc.com]
Time to Take the Steering Wheel out of Geithner's Hands [alternet.org]
Socialising and Privatising [freeradical.co.nz]
Fannie, Freddie to pay out bonuses [politico.com]
Fitch Raises Prime Jumbo Loan Loss Estimates Sharply [researchrecap.com]

Chinas central bank on Monday proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund [ft.com]

- Russia on an new world reserve currency: It is necessary to work out and adopt internationally recognized standards for macroeconomic and budget policy, which are binding for the leading world economies, including the countries issuing reserve currencies - the Kremlin proposals read. [en.rian.ru]

- President Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is deeply connected to corruption. Rahm Emanuel, his Chief of Staff, is radical authoritarian statist whose father was part of the murderous civilian-killing Israeli terrorist organization known as IRGUN who is obsessed with gun control and compulsory service to the country in a capacity which he has yet to define. (Think brown-shirts.) Barack is intimately connected to disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (Rahm inherited Rod's federal-congress seat). Barack Obama is also connected to William Ayers (who ghost-wrote his books); Ayers is a man who promotes the concept that civilian collateral damage is ok in a war against freedom. Saul Alinsky, a man who made the quote as follows, "From all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom - Lucifer," is a man who had much influence on the young Barack Obama. A man who admired Lucifer for gaining his own kingdom in an act of rebellion. Barack also subscribed to Preacher Jeremiah Wright, who is himself a Afro-elitist who wants all the people who largely "pay the freight" to suffer at the hands of angry African-American mobs. There are over 30 million Americans on food stamps, and more blacks are in prison and on food-stamps per capita than anyone else. The problem with Wright is simply this: the facts are "racist." There is no conspiracy against African Americans here by citizens.
- Obama - AIPAC-bootlicker, corrupted to the bone Chicago-style and a traitor to the US Constitution and a liar whose real "legal" name could very well be Barry Sotero and an Indonesian citizen (The US does not allow plural citizenship) (If you care, not that it matters anymore under a lawless authoritarian totalitarian regime such as Barack Obama's, you can see more here at an aggregator; obamacrimes.info [obamacrimes.info] )
- Raytheon lobbyist in Pentagon, many lobbyists getting exemptions even though Obama promised not to have them. This is one of many things Obama has lied about.
- Goldman Sachs insider second in command at Treasury. Bumbling tax cheat idiot Timothy Geithner in "command" of Treasury, with 17 positions unfilled as of late March 2009.
- Obama's cabinet has had several nominees and appointees with multiple tax fraud issues.
- Obama lied about having a new degree of accountability and a "sunshine" period for new laws; Obama has signed bills with little or no time for public review at whitehouse.gov as promised. In fact, one of the largest spending bills in US history was passed into law with several members of the House and Senate telling the public there was no time to review the bill, let alone the public.
- Pork Spendulus Bill (The Stimulus Bill) contained language that came directly from Tom Daschle (who published a book detailing his machinations to slip healthcare under the radar in some back portion of a budgeting bill). This language included the funding and authority to set up a central database of all medical treatments rendered, and the Stimulus bill also contains language that alters the Medicare-style instructions to doctors: The most economic treatments should now be used, no longer use the treatments with the most efficacy. Rationed health care, courtesy of a disgraced tax cheat, Tom Daschle. When you relatives are dying in a state hospital because their quota was reached, see how you feel.
- Obama appointed a Second-Amendment violating-denying Rich-pardoning treasonist Eric Holder as AG, a man who helped a fugitive evade justice and thinks of Americans and cowardly racists.
- Obama has put no money at all in for a single new nuclear power plant but wants to help bridges and roads - apparently to promote more driving.
- Obama, Blagojevich and Rahm Emanuel have a lot to hide. They literally lived very close to each other, Rahm had (until being Obama's Chief of staff) Blagojevich's old federal congressional seat. Blagojevich helped "The Teleprompter" Obama cheat his way to the Illinois senate by getting other candidates thrown off the ballot in Illinois. Why do you think Blagojevich was so mad? Obama did owe him, big time. Rahm and Obama are preemptively using Blagojevich and trying to publically malign and discredit him because he has information that can bring Obama and Rahm Emanuel down. This is the true face of Obama, ruthless, calculating conniving cheat that will stop at nothing to gain and retain power at any cost breaking any rule.
- Tony Rezko, Iraqi Arms Dealer Nahdmi Auchi, and of course Aiham Alsammarae. Barack "The Teleprompter" Obama is so corrupted it's a joke. He is connected to international arms dealers, shady property dealings and people of ill repute to gain what he needs from them: financial bootstrapping of his campaign to rule America.
- Fools and "useful idiots" twist the US Federal Budget pie charts by leaving welfare, workfare, interest on debt, social security, Medicare and Medicaid out and focusing only on non-whole "discretionary" pie charts.
2007 high level pie chart, Federal Budget, USA [wikimedia.org]
2009 Pie chart, detailed, Federal Budget, USA [wikimedia.org]
Now Obama wants to drastically expand the areas of the budget which are getting the most funding by far. There is simply not enough money to fund the obligations made to the public thus far (Unfunded debt obligations which are to pay for the guarantees of social security), let alone Medicare, Medicaid, welfare and other social spending which seeks to guarantee a standard of living to people which is lower what they could gain for themselves. This is an attempt to break the middle class' back so they now need government aid to survive.
- Barack Obama is drastically increasing spending and creating more entitlements that will make the US less competitive (especially against China, India, East Europe/Russia). This will be a huge disaster and "change you can believe in" will strap you, your children and your grandchildren with more debt. "No taxation without representation!" Obama is spending money for the next two-three generations and they can't even vote yet, or even have been born. This is co-opting those who cannot vote to pay for this man's reckless and illegal endeavor to make everyone a feudal serf of the federal government.
- An alternative to the dollar and a forex and a reserve currency came up at the last G20 meeting. The world will not take faith in Obama's liar-socialist spending and welfare state, why should the taxpayers (plebian citizen-slaves of a police state)?
- The spending going on now vastly eclipses all previous spending. In fact, the massive trillion plus debts is a thing of the 80's onwards. Congress signs the checks, remember that year after year, as egregious as the pentagon spending is, that the social spending is completely a waste of money and it is unfunded over the long term. Eisenhower built the interstate highway system, the USA could build a new power infrastructure with this money but instead this money is being pissed into creating more of an entitlement system that is still unfunded, and without massive head-taxes and far more aggressive progressive taxes, could never be funded.
- The budgeting being done today were recently reported by a non-partisan auditing commission will lead to about 10 TRILLION in new debt over the next 10 years. Obama is going to double the national debt while doing nothing to address the unfunded debt obligations of Social Security, or address any of the out of control egregious spending going on today via the budgets, the federal reserve and its taxation via inflation, or by bailouts and stimulus bills. This is the worst, most unintelligent and most hated congress in the history of the United States, and we have a seriously incompetent and potentially dangerous-to-the-free-constitutional-republic Barack Obama rubber stamping this bloody mess.
- Clinton appointed David Walker of the GAO, he recently quit; the unfunded debt obligations have rendered the USA insolvent according to accounting standards. The USA is already broke and cannot conceivably pay its obligations today.
Taxpayers on the hook for $59 trillion [usatoday.com]
US Public Debt Unfunded Debt Obligations [wikipedia.org]
- Most of the world population gets nothing from their governments, or a very bare minimum or services that benefit only the upper echelons of society. However, the liar Barack Obama says the USA needs his universal "state-hospital" rationed health care to be competitive. This is pure folderol and a lie. China and India give nothing, and they are the biggest threat to the American worker. By forcing healthcare and higher taxes, Americans will be less competitive.

- If you think 60% tax rates end to end (income, accounts receivable tax, building permit tax, CDL tax, cigarette tax, corporate income tax, dog license tax, federal income tax, unemployment tax, gasoline tax, hunting license tax, fishing license tax, waterfowl stamp tax, inheritance tax, inventory tax, liquor tax, luxury tax, Medicare tax, city, school and county property tax (up 33 percent last 4 years), real estate tax, social security tax, road usage tax, toll road tax, state and city sales tax, recreational vehicle tax, excise tax, state franchise tax, state unemployment tax, telephone federal excise tax, telephone federal state and local surcharge tax, telephone minimum usage surcharge tax, telephone state and local tax, utility tax, vehicle license registration tax, capital gains tax, lease severance tax, oil and gas assessment tax, airport and FAA taxes and fees, estate tax, misc internet sales tax and many more taxes that I can't recall at the moment) will make the US competitive, along with compulsory programs to provide everyone with health care is going to make the US competitive in the age of India and China, you are incapable of understanding what it takes to build and maintain a successful industrialized republic.

- As the US nationalizes/rations healthcare to the least common denominator of affordability without regard to efficacy, people with money will simply look into medical tourism so those with money can go to medical parks in India and get real health care. Those who have lived in Canada or in the UK can tell you "free" healthcare is not a panacea. If you think this, you are again, a useful idiot. The NHS in the UK has given bad blood and Hepatitis and AIDS infected blood to people, and Jade Goody who just died was misdiagnosed twice resulting in her death (She was "all cleared" twice of the cervical cancer which she just died of). The NHS in the UK is not able to be sued or held accountable. Neither will Obama's rationed health care service for America.
- Sorry to bust the socialist bubble, but support of these types of policies will simply lower the standard of living in the USA, particularly for the middle class. At least at the end of the Eisenhower projects the USA got roads to show for the spending, and with this new spending, the USA could have built power plants that get the USA out of funding the middle east via constant demand for middle-eastern oil, but the age of government for the sake of government is upon us, and the useful idiots line up and believe empty promises.
- The pentagon along with Bechtel, Kroll, Bluewater, Halliburton, etc, could get less than half of what they get today, but that will fix nothing fundamental in terms of government spending. It is simply not enough to make a difference when compared to the Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, workfare and social security entitlements.
See: YouTube - US Government Immorality Will Lead to Bankruptcy [youtube.com]
- If Obama thinks its ok to lie to 300 million people about being able to "take care of them" without even being honest about what that care would look like, then being an idiot and believing in Obama is for you.
- The head of the IRS and the head of the Treasury, Timothy Geithner, is a Tax Cheat
- Lied about no lobbyists - their numbers are growing within Obama's ranks as he issues exemptions.
- The US Government already has over 50% of the budget spent on Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, workfare and social security. Socialists: Good job on that one, its working great. Solution to the current near-collapse-due-to-over-spending: add more unfunded entitlements! And this is still a "George Bush" budget. Over half is being spend on Medicare, Medicaid, welfare, workfare and social security.
- This man is such a propagandist that he invented "The Office of the President Elect," the seals, the flags, the podium and that forum was all props and the media never once questioned any of it. It was an invention. This is the power of Obama, technicalities and rules do not apply.
- The Socialist-liars can break my spirit and my financial back to force me to "need" a federal government that is turning this country into a police state and is turning it into a quasi-socialist lie, but I will, I must put up a fight. I have kids to educate and feed, and the stuff the pseudo-socialist authoritarian Obama sells (which is failing to various degrees everywhere else as implemented) is simply forcing a culture of failure on a once great, libertarian free country.
- I will not be complacent with your "change," and there will be a point where civil war will become an option. See how hard you can push before you get it. How much more than half can the truly productive workers in this country afford to pay. Keep pushing to find out how to start a civil war. The scariest thing about Obamabots is the amount of pleasure they derive from completely defying the US Constitution and giving the government non-enumerated non-extant powers to rule over everyone's quality of life.
- The socialist-lie of a plan will not work, its not fundable, it will destroy the currency to fund it, and its really as simple as this: if this insanity is funded by borrowing from the US's economic and military adversaries then Obama and his socialist cabal is not fit to administrate society. Rome fell. Kings who mis-manged their treasuries all fell. Every example of unhinged spending leads to the same result: systemic collapse.
- Obama and his sycophantic lunatics would want to have a civil war to get Obama's way and force the socialist-lie system on my already tax paying law abiding ass. And as far as "no new taxes" for those under 250k, its a lie, the tax is called inflation, which is set to begin just about now that the Chinese wont want the USA's worthless treasuries to fund the socialist-lie fantasy (one that COMMUNIST China doesn't even try and sell to its people!) Also, what Obama fails to mention is the states are now compelled to implement his new rules, and to follow the rules the states must raise taxes. Obama may not tax those under 250k, but every last one of the 50 states will.
- Barack Obama's numbers don't add up. There is a $59 trillion dollar hole (UFDO) in social security alone. AIG $150 billion here, TARP $350 billion there. $800 billion for a highly dubious pork laden stimulus package. Another one on the way. $59 trillion hole in the balance sheet IGNORED. China saying they aren't going to buy treasuries, calling for new reserve currencies, Clinton clamoring to find buyers now. $3.6 trillion dollar budget, potential military action on Mexico, Iran still a "terrorist state" at the behest of the AIPAC, spending up, dollar about to fall, inflation over time since Breton Woods extremely easy to document, yet, the socialist-liars question when the numbers (the Federal Government numbers) simply don't add up to the point where if the US-GOV was a company it would be insolvent.
-How dare the taxpayers question what Barack Obama's drastic spending increases are going to do to the purchasing power of our savings because Barack Obama wants to recklessly spend and try to maintain and American empire AND guarantee a standard of living, and Obama doesn't even want to build a single nuclear power plant to do it? Barack Obama must be a complete and total lunatic moron at best. He is a man child, akin to Michael Jackson, who does not live in the real world. This guy has turned the White House into a Neverland Ranch.
- Obama is either a negligent idiot or an unhinged maniac with delusional fantasies. Meanwhile, Obama's tax dodging Treasury Secretary has 17 unfilled positions, the Treasury Dept. isn't even functioning at this point while the rest of the world steadily loses faith in one of the two things that makes the USA relevant in the world at all: the dollar as a "hard" or reserve currency and the US military.
- "General welfare" in the constitution was, according to the man who wrote it, Madison, meant to be extremely limited in scope. The federal government per the constitution doesn't even have the enumerated POWER to deal with economic messes. A lot of these "POWERS" were created while there is a crisis to dupe the public into accepting an un-constitutional authoritarian regime as the government and to usurp authority over the people.
- The USA is a constitutional republic. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting to eat a sheep. Also a constitutional republic isn't about using a barely-majority or a plurality to stuff your (un-fundable disastrous) crap down the disenfranchised other-half's throat.
- With Obama's authoritarian corrupted criminal (aiding and abetting a criminal in flight of prosecution, Rich case) Eric Holder in charge, we won't have our inalienable and enumerated rights to firearms much longer. For a constitutional law expert, Obama must have never read the federalist papers or he would simply hand himself as a traitor. Already there is talk of banning firearms to help Mexico's fight against the cartels. What they fail to mention is the firearms that are being used there are Mexican Military firearms being used by those who defected from the Mexican Army into the cartels directly! The firearms in question were sold to the Mexican military, over 170,000 soldiers are gone with the guns. And now the US citizens have to give up inalienable and enumerated rights? This is insanity.
- The arbitrary expansion of "general welfare" is not only unconstitutional, it may very well lead to a serious conflict on the issue.
- Here is a debate on general welfare and how stuff like this came to pass, but was clearly no intended by the authors of the document of root law.
In Federalist No. 41, James Madison asked rhetorically: "For what purpose could the enumeration of particular powers be inserted, if these and all others were meant to be included in the preceding general power?" (In reference to the general welfare clause)
So strongly did the founders believe that "general welfare" wouldn't be expanded as written:
In Federalist No. 84, Alexander Hamilton indirectly confirmed Madison's point. (That the "general welfare" clause was "clearly" not a free pass for government)
Hamilton argued that a bill of rights, which many were clamoring for, would be not only unnecessary, but dangerous. Since the federal government was given only a few specific powers, there was no need to add prohibitions: it was implicitly prohibited by the listed powers. If a proposed law a relief act, for instance wasn't covered by any of these powers, it was unconstitutional.
"why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do? Why, for instance, should it be said, that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained when no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed?"
Hamilton goes on to argue that making Amendments (e.g., enumerating Free speech, press and assembly) and enumerating the 'right' would have the following effect:
(A bill of rights) "would furnish, to men disposed to usurp, a plausible pretence for claiming that power that is, a power to regulate the press, short of actually shutting it down. "
"With respect to the words 'general welfare,' I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers (enumerated in the Constitution) connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators." --James Madison [The US Supreme Court has found the meaning of "general welfare" in the Constitution to be much more elastic than did Mr. Madison. But as the "author of the Constitution," what does he know?]
James Madison, when asked if the "general welfare" clause was a grant of power, replied in 1792, in a letter to Henry Lee,

If not only the means but the objects are unlimited, the parchment [the Constitution] should be thrown into the fire at once.

"...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it...it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government , and to provide new Guards for their future security. ...--The Declaration of Independence
- Monetizing failures causes more. Japan showed us this for decades. But hey, Barack Obama is actually dumb enough to think you can fix a problem DECADES in the making with a quick fixer-upper. He is screwed in the head or, more likely, lying to the American public to quickly get done the things he wants to get done before he gets thrown out on his ass.
- The complaints are with the Federal government (in general) since Breton Woods. The Federal Government and Obama's minions STILL didn't listen to David Walker, a Clinton appointee and former head of the GAO. This isn't about political parties anymore- its about spending the future to the point where today collapses. History is replete with examples of fiat currencies and deficit spending leading to collapse.
- Show me a single federal budget that was less than the previous. If this $3.6T budget goes, it is never coming back barring systemic collapse. The only President to ever see the US Public Debt at $0 dollars is Andrew Jackson.
- The United States Federal Government, The United States Federal Reserve, and the banks which were enabled to continue down reckless paths by a quasi government agency known as the Federal Reserve whose actions are not subject to congress and whose members are unelected. This situation is untenable and unconstitutional.
- Every inflationary road taken in history ends in collapse. Keynesian policies are widely regarded as no longer workable. And while Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, David Walker, Nouriel Roubini, Warren Buffet and Jim Rodgers warn about or predict all the failures, people still refuse to listen to the possibility that the US economy may contract for many years, and spending at these levels is something that can give way to a collapse.
- Inflation is a tax: What ignorant tax and spenders don't take into account here is the relative percentages of people's wealth (both net and gross) and the costs of owning and maintaining houses, cars, standards of living.
- Inflation via deficit spending is going to make it such that you will be paying a lot more by percentage of your income to maintain a given standard of living. Obama's arguments are so poorly thought out and seek to blame "Republicans" for the mess, its really simply laughable - this unhinged budgeting and currency management crisis needs cleanup now, not worsening.
- You can't spend your way out of a hole if the creditors (e.g. China) start telling the USA they won't buy. It is that simple. Now America starts to have to collateralize the debt with assets. The USA will be selling off chunks of American assets to back the new debt. One day, it may even be necessary to sell Alaska back to Russia because no one will take greenbacks to prop up a failing version of a modern Rome.
- Ah, here we go with the Matthew Lesko arguments. [lesko.com]
Interest rates were on the rise before the government stepped in with free money for everyone (the fine print of course indicate massive strings attached).
Other economies, for example, India, have the central rates set to far more reasonable/realistic rates (at the moment ~ 8+%), which is still tends to be too low, but shows that if you need someone else capital you need to pay a premium for it, and given that capital is in short supply, it would stand to reason that a premium must be charged for it.
The problem is the unrealistic growth rates of mature economies don't allow for profiting via growth projections (rather than simply earning money). So the government steps in, turns on the free money spigot, gets the interest rates for savings down in the 1-2% range while diluting the value of the whole currency in order to prop up dying companies that ran the business like a Madhoff Ponzi scheme. Ponzi schemes need new money or they cease to exist. This is why the Federal Reserve is trying to issue more Reserve Notes. Without this fresh input of printed money, the Ponzi scheme will collapse.
- The Republicans aren't solely responsible for the crisis as Obama's minions would have you believe, congress is (no particular congress), the Executive of the US government (no particular one) and the US Federal Reserve System are all at fault.
- Fundamentally, the government is trying to fix the prices of various things to "make it all work." This pulling on the invisible hand is a fools venture. It was predicted long ago the housing collapse (and those, such as myself, in the know, wished while realizing the housing collapse coming that we were wrong for everyone's sake - but the truth is the truth) . It may be that the Austrian (von Mises) economists will ultimately be proven right.
- We are a nation of partially educated whiney grabby idiots, and we got the government that represents this. The Chinese, India and other up and coming nations will show no mercy for this arrogant abuse of our status as the world's forex reserves.
- War and asset sales will continue to be the only option for this scheme until it is corrected at the core. And to say that the government has already averted a depression by doing what they did (most of the monies injected wont be "felt" for some time), is just arrogance and stupidity. Price fixing prolonged the Great Depression. Price-fixing (or attempting to) houses will do the same, but probably worse.
- Obama's minions simply don't care if the US is bankrupted and rendered insolvent, they just want a say in how its done, presumably to "feel safe." Rather selfish.

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." AND "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (Possibly Richard Jackson)

- Everyone better realize that inflation will pay a major role in funding un-fundable fantasies, wiping the savers and the middle class out. The problem is, that other countries are growing tired of making our Federal Reserve notes worth something by buying our debt as treasuries. Obama's minions talk about spending, but in order to "get what YOU want" you will sell debt to potential economic and military adversaries? Real bright. What's really sad is that despite David Walker being an authority on these issues, people refuse to even watch him and listen to what he is saying. Instead of seeing the truth and the bottom line of the unfunded debt obligations, they want HOPE and CHANGE, which are simply concepts which the foolish change into their own personal hopes and changes, but Obama never bothered to outline what to hope for exactly or what he will be changing.
- We have a fraud, a huckster, an empty suit for a President, a Community Organizer. This man does not have the ability to formulate an original thought, or to command action. He is a know nothing that lives in a pretend world just like Michael Jackson ensconced himself in Neverland ranch, he will hide behind those who surround him, which happen to be incompetent people who have no compunction about spending the country into oblivion to achieve personal agendas.
- On the success of Canada and its form of Socialism: A huge country like Canada with massive amounts of uranium and tar sands and natural resources and a huge land mass with a scant 30 million people is an order of magnitude less of a problem to manage than a country with 10x its population, a serious leaky southern border, backfiring aggressive foreign policy, particularly with Iran, and the US is competing with countries like India and China whose middle classes are larger than the US's entire population. The top 5 students in every Indian and Chinese primary school out numbers all the kids in primary school in the US. Canada is a idyllic island, the USA is front and center in an all out economic and political clash of ideologies.
- Cap and trade (and pollution control for solving global problems) will never work unless the top 10 countries in the world (in terms of GDP, manufacturing capacity and population) are on board. Period. end. If the world doesn't quickly move to nuclear now and fusion shortly, it is over. Possibly not if every home on the planet gets a wind vane, but that seems unlikely to happen (since its possible now).
- Keynes calls it "the paradox of thrift" and suggested that policies forcing people not to save is a "good idea." The guy wanted people spending all the time, or if he didn't, he never conveyed that to his protégés well enough for them to not do what they are doing. Right now the plebeians in the US are actually stashing cash, and everyone from Obama to the media is trying to get people to spend spend spend. The best thing for the long term is for people to prepare for the coming hell, not set out with no reserves.
- I have seen Keynes invoked to justify nearly every bad move in the past decade, and its warming up to be a potential currency collapse, the collapse of the US Treasury and Federal Reserve notes, and a collapse of the NYSE. And then they invoke Keynes to suggest the best way out of the mess is to spend out of an already near-critically debt massed black hole.
- A house is run like a town is run like a country or business is run like a state is run like a government. If there are things the government is doing that would either force your home into bankruptcy or into jail via fraud charges, then the government and banks shouldn't be operating in that fashion. A certain degree of stretchy liquidity is in order, but in terms of percent of GDP, there is no way of justifying what they US has now.
- Iceland failed at 850 percent debt to GDP. The US is at 350 and rising. It is not a good thing at all.
- What is happening to the dollar as a forex standard. [youtube.com]
- March 19, 2009 C-SPAN - "Let's Quit Destroying Our Dollar!" [youtube.com]
- HR 1207 (A bill to make the Fed more accountable and to answer questions regarding the dollar policy) [loc.gov]

Title: Obama sidetracked by fiscal mess, but presses on [yahoo.com]
"Being heard above the din may prove difficult. Lawmakers are wrangling over taxing people who got big bonuses and worrying the president's budget could generate $9.3 trillion in red ink over the next decade."
- Kremlin to pitch new global currency [infowars.com]
Russia proposes creation of global super-reserve currency.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

- Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428403)

It seems kind of 'tarded to give a 70+ year old woman an ipod with a tiny screen filled with speeches she is very unlikely to agree with (not that he would even be aware of her political leanings.)

I would have given her a gift of pictures of her during the WW2 blitz on London, showing her changing tires and working along with the rest of the people under siege by the Germans and put this into a classy montage. I would want to honor her good qualities, and there is plenty out there. For one of the richest women in the world, I'm certain trinkets are not high on her shopping list.

Seriously, Obama is a sad amateur. Camacho was a smarter president.

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (4, Insightful)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428455)

If he had really wanted to put two seconds' thought into it, he would have gotten something for her dogs ... either the corgis or the labs. She's absolutely nuts over her corgis (same as every dog lover :-)

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428487)

Yeah, I really do think Corgi owners are a fun lot, and Corgis are some of the nicest dogs around. As the poster said above , The Queen of England is not exactly a simpleton, a slouch or unintelligent. I find someone so entitled has gotten down on all fours like the rest of us and she has done a lot more for her country, I believe, than Obama ever will.

See her first telivised christmas address in 1957. [youtube.com]

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428491)

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Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (1)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428529)

(same as every dog lover :-)

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I have no mouth and I must scream! you ignorant clod :-

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428601)

ERROR: "." expected. Found EOF.

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (1)

halcyon1234 (834388) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428535)

Wait, what's the dog going to do with an iPod?

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (1)

Megane (129182) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428693)

Wait, what's the dog going to do with an iPod?

Use it as [scenthounds.com] a chew toy, [wrapables.com] what did you expect? [baxterboo.com]

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (4, Funny)

Inda (580031) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428575)

I think a nice gun would have been more fitting for Her Royal Highness.

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (2, Funny)

o'reor (581921) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428763)

OTOH, the Obama administration has looked so clueless so far about that "new dog for the White House" business, it probably wouldn't be a good idea...

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428549)

The summary doesn't even mention that the DVDs that Obama gave Brown were encoded for the USA, and therefore wouldn't play on DVD players in Britain. Come on, Obumbler! You're eye-poppingly wealthy and you now have an army of people to pick out gifts on your behalf. Can you please send them somewhere besides Wal-Mart 30 minutes before you're supposed to meet a head of state? Sad amateur, indeed. What should we expect, though, from someone who's been taking instead of giving his whole life?

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428439)

Sad thing of it is, April fools posts are over. The only fool here is Obama.

And Clinton, who tells Russians they work hard in translation, only to make a button which means OVERLOAD (peregruzka) and not RESET (perezagruzka) and its not even in cryllic letters.

"mas chingados que la chingada"

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428457)

The real owners are the big wealthy business interests that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians, theyre an irrelevancy. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice. You dont. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you.. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own and control the corporations. Theyve long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the statehouses, the city halls. Theyve got the judges in their back pockets. And they own all the big media companies, so that they control just about all of the news and information you hear. Theyve got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying lobbying to get what they want. Well, we know what they want; they want more for themselves and less for everybody else.

But Ill tell you what they dont want. They dont want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They dont want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking. Theyre not interested in that. That doesnt help them. Thats against their interests. They dont want people who are smart enough to sit around the kitchen table and figure out how badly theyre getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago.

You know what they want? Obedient workers people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork but just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, reduced benefits, the end of overtime and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it. And, now, theyre coming for your Social Security. They want your fucking retirement money. They want it back, so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? Theyll get it. Theyll get it all, sooner or later, because they own this fucking place. Its a big club, and you aint in it. You and I are not in the big club.

-George Carlin

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428465)

Jackson:
In 1835, President Andrew Jackson declared his disdain for the international bankers:

"Gentlemen, I have had men watching you for a long time and I am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter, I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God, I will rout you out... If people only understood the rank injustice of the money and banking system, there would be a revolution by morning." .

There followed an assassination attempt on President Jackson's life [by a double misfire of the assassins pistols prevented his death] soon thereafter. Jackson had told his vice president, Martin Van Buren, "The bank, Mr. Van Buren, is trying to kill me...."

Jefferson:

"I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

-- Jefferson made in a letter to John Taylor in 1816

"Bank-paper must be suppressed, and the circulating medium must be restored to the nation to whom it belongs.."

-- Jefferson 's comment to John Wayles Eppes

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (-1, Offtopic)

Cuppa 'Joe' Black (1000483) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428499)

-1 Retardant

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (0, Offtopic)

IBBoard (1128019) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428661)

You mean the parent post prevents fire? Wow!

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428515)

That reminds me of a joke:

q: What did the ***** give the queen?

a: My iPod!

explanation: Because he's a *****, he stole the ipod

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428531)

Re:Obama Policies Will Bankrupt USA Tsarkon Report (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428609)

You can say nigger here, you know.

April 1st (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428385)

Seems April 1st had a lasting effect on the quality of /. posts.

It's not an iPod (4, Funny)

u38cg (607297) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428389)

It's an oiaeuooPod.

(RP joke, for the humour impaired).

Re:It's not an iPod (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428433)

For the truly humour impaired, that was not funny or a joke. But it tried to be.

Re:It's not an iPod (1, Offtopic)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428493)

I don't get it.

Re:It's not an iPod (-1, Troll)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428543)

he's racist cretin. That's the sound a chimp makes.

Re:It's not an iPod (1)

IBBoard (1128019) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428527)

Surely it was a onePod because one uses the phrase "one" to refer to ones self rather than taking one down to the uncouth level of using "I" when one is, for example, upset that one cannot help one's fellow humans during a humanitarian crisis.

Re:It's not an iPod (4, Funny)

sapphire wyvern (1153271) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428673)

Well, if it's Royal, surely it should be a "we"Pod rather than an iPod or onePod?

Re:It's not an iPod (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428657)

Well apparently I am "humour impaired". Nice to know...

its England (3, Funny)

mcfatboy93 (1363705) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428391)

And its good to be Queen...

Problem with DVDs was... (5, Funny)

Zarhan (415465) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428405)

...that the Region 1 DVD's didn't play in Brown's Region 2 player. On his next visit Obama will give him a modding kit.

Re:Problem with DVDs was... (1)

n1ckml007 (683046) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428451)

Wouldn't it be awesome if DRM went away as a results. La sigh...

Re:Problem with DVDs was... (2, Insightful)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428477)

People still pay extra for players that enforce regions, and give that "Operation Not Permitted" crap when you want to skip through the menus?\

I was surprised the first time I saw that ... glad I'm boycotting Sony.

Re:Problem with DVDs was... (2, Insightful)

91degrees (207121) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428481)

I'll bet he hasn't even looked at them since. They're sitting in a big cupboard labelled "gifts from foreign dignitaries".

I'd also be surprised if the PM had a non-hackable player.

Re:Problem with DVDs was... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428691)

That's actually quite true.

Gifts given to UK MPs end up either getting sent back, sold or they have to be bought by the PM.

Re:Problem with DVDs was... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428641)

That would be rude. Obama should give him a grey market imported Region free DVD player.

Or better yet, a CD with a licensed copy of ANYDVD and a copy of handbrake, hand it to him and say, "this will get rid of all the must watch bullshit that the idiots in hollywood put on every disc as well.

Honestly, Obama does not choose the Gifts given to dignitaries, most are pre chosen by some crack staff members... The last trip we still had the idiot from the Bush Administration that was handing out DVD box sets and Coors beer 6 packs.

Re:Problem with DVDs was... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428649)

And then after the modding, depending on the DVD player, he might experience the joys of NTSC vs PAL.

Re:Problem with DVDs was... (2, Informative)

91degrees (207121) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428775)

Even less problem than the region coding. I've not seen a TV that can't handle a 60Hz signal in the last decade. Nor have I seen a DVD player that can't output PAL60.

heh heh (2, Interesting)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428407)

How much does custom firmware that will change its function to a logic bomb in the mysterious future cost? Or is that a standard feature in the iPod firmware, available to the federal government at any time? ;)

who cares? (5, Insightful)

castironpigeon (1056188) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428411)

Are there really not enough issues in the world to get worked up about that people are arguing over a freakin' gift exchange?

Like there's something better? (4, Insightful)

geekmux (1040042) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428629)

Are there really not enough issues in the world to get worked up about that people are arguing over a freakin' gift exchange?

This just in...Israel and Palestine are fighting. More at the top of the hour...

A lot of people are pissed about Government bailouts. News at 11.

The economy sucks. More to come.

Don't complain. At least this is "new" by comparison to the rest of the shit that keeps getting dredged up day after day.

Re:who cares? (4, Insightful)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428777)

I a huge politics junkie and it horrifies me what stories the public latches onto when their very futures are at stake. I only assign 1/4 the blame to the messenger. The other 3/4 goes to the public whose mouse clicks and channel selections have indicated to news outlets what their audience wants to see.

More evidence (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428413)

...that our new Fucktard-in-Chief doesn't have a clue as to how the world works.

Whats wrong with the Zune!!!! (1)

Freaky Spook (811861) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428419)

I know its not April fools anymore but it still seems more appropriate, considering our economic climate.

Had to be ... (4, Funny)

KwKSilver (857599) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428421)

Had to be an iPod, not a Zune: Her Majesty has far too much gravitas to run around "squirting" people.

The iPod will be taken apart ... (5, Insightful)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428423)

After all, would ANY government allow one of their top people to accept an electronic gift without it being checked to make sure it's not bugged? That would be a serious security lapse.

Re:The iPod will be taken apart ... (1)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428509)

Who says they didn't check it?

Re:The iPod will be taken apart ... (1)

ArcherB (796902) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428745)

Who says they didn't check it?

Who says the "Queen" is part of the government?

Sure, she has a role, but it's not like she's making the battle plan for Afghanistan or anything.

Re:The iPod will be taken apart ... (1)

modmans2ndcoming (929661) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428521)

The queen has no role in the security status of her government. so unless Obama is looking to cash in on some tabloid photos taken from the secret camera in the ipod... I think no one will worry.

Re:The iPod will be taken apart ... (5, Interesting)

Asic Eng (193332) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428725)

The queen regularly discusses political matters with the prime minister. The prime minister is not required to do anything she says, but by talking to her has access to a person who has talked to his predecessors and has therefore considerable knowledge. So the queen does have some informal power, and tapping into these conversations could in principle be interesting for a foreign power.

Re:The iPod will be taken apart ... (1)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428597)

After all, would ANY government allow one of their top people to accept an electronic gift without it being checked to make sure it's not bugged? That would be a serious security lapse.

I'm sure the iPod was checked over, but how thoroughly and by whom is anyone's guess. It's important to realize that the U.S. and the U.K. are close allies, so generally the iPod would be trusted by the Crown's security. I'm sure before that iPod got anywhere near President Obama, the Secret Service thoroughly examined and screened the device for explosives, biological and chemical agents. That's just standard procedure.

Re:The iPod will be taken apart ... (4, Insightful)

CmdrGravy (645153) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428599)

You remember that warehouse at the end of Indiana Jones where they store the Ark Of The Covenant ?

The Queen has a similar warehouse where all the presents the monarchs have been given over the last 300 years or so are stored, this I-Pod is never going to be used.

Re:The iPod will be taken apart ... (2, Funny)

Ragzouken (943900) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428635)

Yeah, I heard it was going to be examined by top men.

Good thing we Slashdotted it! (1)

cyberspittle (519754) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428427)

Yep. good thing.

Brown responded... (5, Funny)

langelgjm (860756) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428437)

Mr. Brown gave Mr. Obama a pen holder carved from the timber of an anti-slave ship, receiving in return a DVD box set of American movies, igniting a torrent of criticism in the British press.

Brown, commenting on the matter, said: "I've already downloaded most of these on the Pirate Bay."

Re:Brown responded... (5, Funny)

ubrgeek (679399) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428475)

Her Majesty, commenting on the matter, said, "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame."

DRM (1)

simonbas (1319225) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428441)

Am I wrong of you can only see the content of the iPod on the computer from which it has been transferred from?

Giving crippled DRM to heads of state, that's the new American diplomacy..."Hey here's a gift for you...wait...oh sorry, you'll have to break the DMCA to use it..."

Re:DRM (1)

v1 (525388) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428567)

actually when you plug in an ipod to a different computer, and open itunes, you can see all the music on the ipod. You just can't drag and drop it FROM the ipod (copy it) to the computer.

Royal Navy anti slavery actions (4, Interesting)

Hal_Porter (817932) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428447)

There's a good article here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/abolition/royal_navy_article_01.shtml [bbc.co.uk]

It's actually an incredibly cool story.

Obama not related to slave trade (1)

xzvf (924443) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428505)

Despite his skin color I'd think his Kenyan background would indicate a present commemorating decolonization of Africa and creation of the Commonwealth as opposed to the elimination of the west African slave trade to North America. Unless of course the present was to the United States and not Obama specifically. Wonder how re-gifting works in this case?

Re:Royal Navy anti slavery actions (1)

CmdrGravy (645153) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428621)

According to Flashman the slave trade was largely eliminated by high spirited boys for the sheer fun of it.

Re:Royal Navy anti slavery actions (3, Informative)

mspohr (589790) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428709)

This is actually a more complex story. The Royal Navy first started by supporting and defending the slave trade in 1562. The Royal Navy was very 'entrepreneurial' in those days.

In 1632 King Charles of England gave out charters to support the slave trade. Up to three million Africans had been transported in British ships since 1650, and at the end of the 18th century Britain was dominating the trade, with an average of more than 150 slave ships leaving Liverpool, Bristol, and London each year. This made Britain very rich.

There were people who realized that the slave trade was an abomination against human rights and they started a campaign against it. By 1807, Britain was forced to outlaw the practice and the Royal Navy had to enforce the new law but this was difficult because of the huge profits. The slave trade continued through 1880.

In light of the wealth that Britain received from the slave trade, it probably would have been more appropriate for Gordon Brown to give Obama a gift made from a slave trade ship (this gift would be less hypocritical but probably would not be appropriate). Britain has yet to seriously discuss reparations for the damage done to Africa from the profits they made in the slave trade.

Re:Royal Navy anti slavery actions (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428749)

Thank you for the link. Living in a land-locked country with no history of slave trade at all, I wondered at first whether an "anti-slave ship" was a ship transporting antimatter slaves or a rocket cruiser armed with sea-to-slave missiles.

Silly (5, Insightful)

ledow (319597) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428449)

First, who cares who gave who what? Seriously? I mean, if you made a *major* boo-boo and gave Obama some racist memoribilia or something, then you're an idiot, but otherwise who cares? You're talking negotiations over the future of countries, anyone who reads anything into the gifts is clearly desperate for news or clearly focusing on the wrong things.

Have the governments of the two countries seriously got nothing else better to waste their money on than gifts for other nations? Sure, bring something along but keep it simple. A couple of bouquets for the missus and a bottle of special wine or something to enjoy over dinner one night. Anything else is asking for a cock-up because it'll have been made from the ship that X's father fought against in war Y or something. And, trust me, nobody British really cared what gift was received/given the last time the US president and the UK prime minister met. Nobody. The press obviously had nothing else better to report, or were feeling snubbed themselves. They don't even care that Churchill's bust was moved in the Whitehouse... really... we don't have American presidents lining 10 Downing Street, so why should the American's have anything similar? So long as it was done respectfully (i.e. they didn't kick it down the stairs after drawing a moustache on it), who cares?

Personally, I think the Queen's gift is the worst out of all those listed (in all the linked articles) anyway - it's too imperialist and overbearing... a signed photo... "Look, I have given you something cheap and readily available to remind you that you were once in my presence". Urk.

Re:Silly (1, Interesting)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428637)

First, who cares who gave who what? Seriously? I mean, if you made a *major* boo-boo and gave Obama some racist memoribilia or something, then you're an idiot, but otherwise who cares?

Who knows? Obama might appreciate the irony of the former gear of would-be conquerors who would have exterminated his genetics reduced to mere trinketry.

Have the governments of the two countries seriously got nothing else better to waste their money on than gifts for other nations?

No. The government governs best which governs least. Anyway, what the fuck do you think this so-called bailout money is other than gifts for rich fuckers?

Personally, I think the Queen's gift is the worst out of all those listed (in all the linked articles) anyway - it's too imperialist and overbearing... a signed photo... "Look, I have given you something cheap and readily available to remind you that you were once in my presence". Urk.

If she ever stops doing all that, she has to admit that she's just one person. Kind of like if we admit that GM is just making a bunch of big shitpiles and can't cover its costs, we have to admit that some of the basic assumptions upon which our economy is based are totally boned.

How is the signed photo a common item? (1)

name_already_taken (540581) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428729)

Personally, I think the Queen's gift is the worst out of all those listed (in all the linked articles) anyway - it's too imperialist and overbearing... a signed photo... "Look, I have given you something cheap and readily available to remind you that you were once in my presence". Urk.

Yeah, she hands one of those things to everyone who walks past Buckingham Palace. I've got four of the damned things already. She won't take no for an answer, you have to take the thing or she yells at you and has her guards chase you away. At least you can melt the silver frame down and make some money. </sarcasm>

Are you serious? Regardless of the expense, or lack of it (it's probably a very expensive frame, not something from the Hallmark store), a signed photograph of Liz II is not a common item.

And, if you think about it, if you're in her position, meeting some dignitary or other literally every other day, you'd probably standardize on some gift like that too.

Maybe the Obama White House should consider doing something similar (although a signed photo is probably not a good idea for someone who isn't a monarch).

I do have to wonder what an 80-something year old who has staff to do everything for her is going to do with an iPod. Doesn't seem like all that great an idea.

RIAA? (3, Interesting)

LatencyKills (1213908) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428459)

Hmmm. Is there a copyright issue here (assuming that all the music on the ipod was not open source)? Can I legally hook an ipod to my computer, load it with music from my iTunes, and give the ipod away? How is that any different from making copies of CDs that I own and giving those copies away?

Re:RIAA? (1)

Aerynvala (1109505) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428489)

I'd actually like to know the answer to that as well. I'm sure RIAA would say it was illegal, but that's to be expected. I know that when you sync an iPod to a new computer it will try to wipe whatever was on it, but that can be worked around. And if the mp3 files are themselves not drm'd?

Re:RIAA? (1)

v1 (525388) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428593)

I don't think anyone said it had any copyrighted music on it? maybe it was all free stuff.

Wow (0, Offtopic)

ilovegeorgebush (923173) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428461)

Christ Slashdot, this is not news.

Re:Wow (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428517)

Christ Slashdot, this is not news.

It's not news, it's Slashdot.org

Re:Wow (0, Flamebait)

LingNoi (1066278) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428541)

In the past 4 months there has been way too much American politics on this website. I know slashdot is based in America but not all its readers are and it's getting such poor quality.

No one gives a shit that Obama sucks at gift giving, not even in England however many newspapers try to hype it up. Fucking stupid.

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428743)

Would you like a gift to make up for it?

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428545)

I think it is.

It shows that the DVDs to Brown weren't a fluke; we're willing to give foreign dignitaries gifts worthy of Idiocracy.

Which iPod? (1, Interesting)

XxtraLarGe (551297) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428467)

The article doesn't specify which iPod they gave her (article links to a 5th Gen). Since it had video, it wasn't a shuffle. Clearly the best one would be the 32 GB iPod touch as far as video goes, but if it was "loaded with video" then maybe the 120 GB iPod Classic is more likely?

american movies (4, Funny)

simonbas (1319225) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428469)

"igniting a torrent of criticism in the British press"

Where can I find that .torrent?

Re:american movies (1)

niktemadur (793971) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428753)

"igniting a torrent of criticism in the British press"

Where can I find that .torrent?

The press of the Principality of Sealand [wikipedia.org] ?

Sync off only one PC? (3, Funny)

Shadow_139 (707786) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428495)

So will she have to fly to the US and sync with Obamas PC to load new song onto them since apples DRM only allow the device to sync with one system without loosing data?

Hilarious. (5, Funny)

Sj0 (472011) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428497)

I just find it hilarious, it seems like the criticisms of the US personified.

"Here's a rare and incredibly symbolic gift, a pen case made with wood from anti-slave ships."-British

"lol heres 2 fast 2 furious" - US

Re:Hilarious. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428555)

Mod parent up.

This is the essence of a story.

No one cares what model of an iPod it was or why those DVD's won't play at mr. Brown's dvd player.

Re:Hilarious. (4, Insightful)

icebrain (944107) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428585)

I think it's indicative of Obama's naivete and complete lack of experience with regard to foreign policy. IIRC, he also blew off an official state dinner with Brown saying he was "too busy", and dismissed the US-UK relationship as "nothing special", and sent back the bust of Churchill that had been at the White House for quite a long time. Oh, and the DVDs came with a couple of Marine One helicopter toys, too.

Re:Hilarious. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428639)

Don't say anything negative about our black president. The nation's delicate sensibilities can't handle it.

Obama fucking something up? No, no, that couldn't be. It's just the Brits being whiny. Our president is perfect, haven't you read/heard/seen?

Re:Hilarious. (1)

Capt James McCarthy (860294) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428587)

Why didn't he give her a GM (Government Motors) 'green car.'

The Queens Gift (4, Insightful)

howman (170527) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428533)

It's fairly poignant the fact that she gives everyone the same gift, a silver framed picture of her... Pretty much says, 'you ain't shit better than anyone else, but I am da bomb.'

She should have gave him Northern Ireland . . . (5, Funny)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428663)

"Ah, Mr. Obama, I've been expecting you."

"You seem to be handling all the troubles in the world, right now. One more shouldn't be a problem for you, please accept my gift to you of Northern Ireland."

Mix Tapes (4, Funny)

i_ate_god (899684) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428539)

Remember back in the day when you used to give mix tapes to girls to show them how amazing you were?

One Already Had One! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27428547)

Do you really think her old one ran out of space, or maybe it didn't have enough encryption for the US record industry's liking and so had to be replaced, either way, it wasn't newsworthy the first time ma'am's portable DRM box was discussed and obama barely increases that newsworthiness

June 2005 | CBBC Newsround | The Queen 'joins iPod revolution' [bbc.co.uk]

http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=11875 [macworld.co.uk]

!iPod (3, Funny)

FTWinston (1332785) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428553)

Everyone knows that the queen doesn't have an iPod, she has a wePod!

Title is wrong (4, Informative)

Late Adopter (1492849) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428557)

President Obama was unable to meet with Queen Elizabeth, since she passed away a while ago. Instead he met with HM Queen Elizabeth II. I know it sounds pedantic, but they are different people.

Re:Title is wrong (1)

grimJester (890090) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428687)

Yeah, the first one was scrapped [wikipedia.org] in 1975.

Zune (1)

bFusion (1433853) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428577)

This is probably publicity to cover up the fact that he used to use a Zune (which is, as we all know, WAY lamer than a totally hip iPod) :-/

So he gave her madge an Ipod (1)

Big Hairy Ian (1155547) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428583)

Perhaps they should re-christen it the OnePod. I mean it could have been worse he could have given her the Royal Wii :)

What is it with the Obamas and... (1)

OneSmartFellow (716217) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428617)

... shallow, consumerist gifts.

Oh, never mind, I just re-read that and answered my own question.

The "Anti Slave Ship" is worth about a klan hood (1, Interesting)

Tiber (613512) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428647)

God, the first chimp has a huge ego. I wonder if they grease the doors in the morning so he can fit his head through.

Also the HMS GANNET was an anti-slave ship for the wrong reasons. The GANNET was employed to protect British interests and suppress the slave market among the Islamic and African kingdoms, guaranteeing British prices and control of the market.

Obama, being an idiot, doesn't know a lick of history.

Maybe Japan's Prime Minister will get 20" rims!!! (2, Insightful)

cornercuttin (1199799) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428659)

first, he gives the British PM a stack of DVDs (ultra lame). next, he gives the queen of england a friggin ipod (i'm sure she is really suave on computers...probably has a 24" iMac all modded out).

maybe next Obama will show up in Japan with some 20" rims for the PM there. "Runnin on dubs!!!"

this is so embarrassing. i would've expected it out of President Bush. i bet he got the queen a handgun (big ol' desert eagle), and he probably got Tony Blair a shot-glass set. but Obama? why is he pulling this crap?

Re:Maybe Japan's Prime Minister will get 20" rims! (1)

cornercuttin (1199799) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428705)

and to add, i love the idea that we (the US) give away a bunch of Chinese-made products, made by people who are probably in not-so-good working conditions. we can't even give away something made in America.

just wait till she plugs that iPod into a computer in the Buckingham network. i bet China has some sort of virus embedded in that thing. they are about to own MI6!!!

A Special iPod (1)

TooMad (967091) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428719)

But what the news doesn't mention was the iPod was made from recycled SuperBabies: Baby Geniuses 2 DVDs.

If the British press can't find something... (4, Insightful)

EWAdams (953502) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428757)

... to bitch about America over, they will pull something out of their own ass. The last time the British press was polite and respectful towards America was D-Day.

There's a recession on, people. Do you really expect Obama to be handing out diamond necklaces? How's that going to look?

Also, both sides know perfectly well that whatever they give, the other side won't be allowed to keep it as a matter of anti-corruption policy. Every single gift given to an American president goes straight into a vault. So there's no point in giving anything really expensive.

Is Obama's personal player known as... (2, Funny)

OneSmartFellow (716217) | more than 5 years ago | (#27428765)

... iPod One ?
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