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Thai Gov't Sets Up Site For Snitching On Royals' Critics

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the yes-yes-the-king-is-good dept.

Censorship 329

An anonymous reader writes "In a move that would make the old eastern German Stasi green with envy, the Thai government has modernized a system that allows citizens to snitch on fellow citizens. 'Internet users are being urged to show their loyalty to the king by contributing to a new website called protecttheking.net, which has been set up by a parliamentary committee. On the site's front page it is described as a means for Thai people to show their loyalty to the king by protecting him from what it calls misunderstandings about him. It calls on all citizens to inform on anyone suspected of insulting or criticising the monarchy.' An large unknown population of political prisoners are currently being held for 3 to 15 years in Thai prisons for being interpreted as insulting the monarchy."

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writeinjackthompson (3, Funny)

bconway (63464) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471147)

Sorry, had to be said.

Re:writeinjackthompson (3, Insightful)

iYk6 (1425255) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471243)

I was thinking of writing in myself. Anonymously, of course.

"I am here to report myself, who frequently claims that the king has inappropriate sexual relations with monkeys. My name is Anonymous."

Re:writeinjackthompson (2, Funny)

palegray.net (1195047) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471745)

Screw the anonymous part, I'll use my real name. I can be fairly creative when it comes to visuals, too.

They should be like good Americans and (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471149)

Stop Snitchin'

Re:They should be like good Americans and (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471397)

How long until Barry puts up a site like this?

Ants (5, Informative)

Man On Pink Corner (1089867) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471153)

Those people really are nothing but ants.

That, and their king has a fugly wife and a really dumb-looking hat.

Re:Ants (4, Funny)

jagilbertvt (447707) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471183)

I would inform them of your insults, but apparently their site is slashdotted.

Re:Ants (2, Insightful)

StarkRG (888216) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471981)

Only on slashdot would such a post be modded insightful. Not that I disagree.

Slashdotted? (3, Informative)

CrazyJim1 (809850) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471161)

Anyone else actually try and go to the website? I did and I got nothing.

Re:Slashdotted? (2, Interesting)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471197)

Maybe they have a pf rule in to block non-Thais.

Re:Slashdotted? (2, Informative)

Keen Anthony (762006) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471325)

Would the site respond at all in that case? I just get read errors after a while.

But maybe it is for the best as I have it on good authority that His Majesty isn't actually quite "the Great" at all, that most of his $35 billion fortune is in fact Monopoly money, that he molests dead farm animals in the pale moonlight while "Twilight Time" by The Platters plays gently on his Zune, and that the queen is a whore and the prince holds the money. LÃse majesté crimes are fun!

Re:Slashdotted? (2, Informative)

itsthebin (725864) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471691)

from a TRUE connection in bangkok it comes back after a while with a blank page with firefox

Re:Slashdotted? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471727)

This is an outrage. As soon as the site comes back, I am SOOO reporting you, as well as this website (yro.slashdot.org).

The king will have your head.

Re:Slashdotted? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 5 years ago | (#27472083)

Heres a hint: if you need a quick way out of Thailand, confess to a sex crime in the USA. It will get you extradited no worries.

Re:Slashdotted? (1)

iYk6 (1425255) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471271)

I attempted to ping protecttheking.net, and got "ping: unknown host protecttheking.net". Perhaps they haven't set up the nameservers, or that info hasn't propogated yet.

Re:Slashdotted? (1)

quickOnTheUptake (1450889) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471319)

ping www.protecttheking.net PING www.protecttheking.net (61.19.218.138) 56(84) bytes of data. ^C --- www.protecttheking.net ping statistics --- 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2999ms www?

Re:Slashdotted? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471323)

I attempted to ping protecttheking.net, and got "ping: unknown host protecttheking.net". Perhaps they haven't set up the nameservers, or that info hasn't propogated yet.

www resolves

Re:Slashdotted? (1)

nathan.fulton (1160807) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471475)

I'm thinking that maybe the only DNS servers that point to the correct IP address are the ones in the country, because the IP address site currently resolved to is parked -- which isn't something any government would likely do with an official server.

So... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471167)

Who wants to help me flood it with fake comments?

Re:So... (1)

Chuck Chunder (21021) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471501)

I do.
Tell me your name and I'll start straight away.

Re:So... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471525)

me [4chan.org]

Fair enough (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471193)

Report every government official (from diplomats to police), every relative of a government official, and everyone related to the king.

Re:Fair enough (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471291)

This is exactly what needs to happen. We'll need some thai translators though to make it harder for them to sift through.

Their country, their loss! (4, Insightful)

syousef (465911) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471225)

Their government try to sell the country as a tourist destination. Well you know what, if I have tourist dollars to spend you can bet I won't be visiting a country where I can go to jail just for criticising someone.

Re:Their country, their loss! (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471419)

Yep. Glad I've booked my Australia-UK flight on Singapore Airlines. I've been Thai Airways before, but no more. Too much risk of being offloaded at Bangkok for "insulting" their king during the flight or being stranded at their airport for weeks as the government falls apart.

Re:Their country, their loss! (3, Insightful)

Lehk228 (705449) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471505)

if you go to foreign countries and publicly insult their leaders you are kind of a douche bag.

Re:Their country, their loss! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471585)

unless you come to the united states then it's expected of you.

Re:Their country, their loss! (4, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471627)

Douche bag, sure; but that doesn't make 3-15 years any more civilized.

Re:Their country, their loss! (4, Insightful)

guyminuslife (1349809) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471641)

If you take visitors into your country and jail them for speaking their minds, you probably deserve whatever it is they said about you.

Re:Their country, their loss! (5, Insightful)

linzeal (197905) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471913)

Why, is this some form of etiquette? All kings and queens should be beheaded in this day and age, be them British or Thai.

Re:Their country, their loss! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471515)

... I won't be visiting a country where I can go to jail just for criticising someone.

Particularly someone with such an obsession for bestiality and the scatological, hung like an ant, and whose appearance incites a curious mix of pity, nausea and amusement, and if said someone's mother were to have kept her legs closed for just once in her life, the world could have been a better place.

However for such an unfortunate and pitiful human specimen, ridicule and insult are redundant.

Re:Their country, their loss! (1)

conureman (748753) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471895)

Spring in Alberta, mmmmm.

Hey Thai Gov't (5, Funny)

Maxhrk (680390) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471249)

A brave american from here in US want to say,

Thai King, you suck.

(ok i am coward hiding in US somewhere, anyway.)

Re:Hey Thai Gov't (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471701)

No, you're not, Maxhrk.

But, I am.

Submit some good names (4, Insightful)

ArchieBunker (132337) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471307)

Either spam it full of garbage or some important people close to the king.

The hot air balloon (0, Redundant)

westlake (615356) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471985)

Either spam it full of garbage or some important people close to the king.

Easy for you to say.

You aren't posting in Thai and you aren't posting from Bangkok.

I have seen only one or two posts so far that suggests a passing acquaintance with Thai culture:

Insulting the King (or Queen) is a personal insult to many Thai people and is one of the few things the Thai in general do not tolerate well overall

I'll take that as fair warning that this is a family matter and that you would be well advised to butt out.

Hmmm, SPAM, that reminds me of something... (1)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | more than 5 years ago | (#27472013)

"Must be a king."
"Why?"
"He hasn't got shit all over him."

Now you can set up a web site to help keep it that way...

"Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system!"
"HELP! HELP! I'm being repressed!"

well, thailand for one (1)

superwiz (655733) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471339)

can now officially welcome it's new internet-friendly overlords

No way this could be used (3, Funny)

basementman (1475159) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471349)

No way this could be used to insult the king or anything. I might have to report my neighbor, Thaikingsucksbigcock Smith for some things he told me the other day.

Misunderstandings? (1)

grapeape (137008) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471367)

Sounds like they are more worried that citizens (or I guess its serfs) may understand too much.

The Thai King (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471373)

The Thai King has very little real power but he yields immense moral authority and is very popular. Thailand is legally a constitutional monarchy but in reality the situation is much more complex. They are supposed to be run by an elected gov't (which is usually a little bit corrupt) but that rule is enforced by the military and about every 10-15 years, there is a military coup (often fairly or completely bloodless) that throws out an exceptionally corrupt gov't and reboots.

In some ways, the Thai Gov't kinda reminds me of an unpatched Windows Machine that needs lots of reboots and eventually a disk-wipe to get working again -- but talking about the gov't structure itself doesn't really explain why insulting the King is a big deal.

Again, like I said... the King is a "moral authority". In many ways, he's the Thai equivalent to the Pope although more in the moral sense than religious sense -- he is a man who is loved by the people and is wished to be seen as "good" by most Thai's. Insulting the King (or Queen) is a personal insult to many Thai people and is one of the few things the Thai in general do not tolerate well overall. Insulting the King in Thailand is the equivalent of bad-mouthing the Pope while visiting the Vatican.

That said, I'd rather visit Thailand again anyday than the many countries in the world that are significantly less tolerant [timesonline.co.uk] .

Re:The Thai King (0, Troll)

packeteer (566398) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471441)

The Thai King has very little real power but he yields immense moral authority and is very popular.

According to whom? My understanding is thew king claims a 100% rate of adoring followers yet this is backed up by the force of law. It is illegal to speak anything negative about the king so of course he is "universally adored". It's all a bunch of crap to anyone in America anyway. I am quick to accuse my own government of being corrupt and suppressing dissent but this goes to show that we in America don't have it the worst by a long shot. It puts it all in perspective.

Re:The Thai King (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471523)

Ask any Thai person who doesn't live in Thailand and they will say they love the king but don't like the crown prince.

Re:The Thai King (2, Insightful)

Chuck Chunder (21021) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471629)

Perhaps he's popular precisely because he doesn't have real power. It's the pricks that do meddle in peoples lives that become unpopular.

The peculiar thing about the USA is that it invents it's own royalty. What else could explain political families like the Bushes, Kennedys etc?

Re:The Thai King (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471689)

>The peculiar thing about the USA is that it invents it's own royalty. What else could explain political families like the Bushes, Kennedys etc?

If by "invents" you mean "votes" then, why yes, we do.

Re:The Thai King (5, Insightful)

Potor (658520) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471687)

If you think there is an obvious American opinion to this matter, you are a moron. Travel a bit. Open your mind and your eyes.

The Thai people do love him, which is why it is such a problem to criticize him. They personally hate it when the king is insulted (I speak from experience, having lived and worked in Thailand for over a year). The government constantly use this popular love to pass laws that favour themselves and not the king because they can use such legislation to lock people up on the slightest context.

The king him disfavours the lese majeste laws, and wishes aloud for their abolition.

Re:The Thai King (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471735)

aaarrrrggg "the king himself" - and i proofread that a million times!

Re:The Thai King (2, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471665)

Once you bring in the jackbooted thugs and the jail time "moral authority" is off the table. At least the papacy hasn't had legal power in quite some time, so the pope confines himself to wearing a dress and giving terrible medical advice.

put this on your web site fuckers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471379)

the royals are a bunch of bitches and not good enough to wipe my ass.

Silly Thais (1)

techsoldaten (309296) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471381)

Silly Thais. The king should be protecting his people, not the other way around.

M

Re:Silly Thais (3, Informative)

belmolis (702863) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471647)

This isn't coming from the Palace, it is coming from the military. It's the Thai version going after the opposition for not being sufficiently patriotic. I've read that the King actually doesn't approve of harassing people for lese majeste.

Anyone with a directory of thai politicians? (1)

Sylvestre (45097) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471403)

is there a proxy in Thailand? Could we not all start reporting all of the politicians, one by one, that exist in Thailand?

Can't put them all in jail.

Re:Anyone with a directory of thai politicians? (1)

sortius_nod (1080919) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471531)

People don't usually proxy into Thailand, it's the other way around.

Re:Anyone with a directory of thai politicians? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471589)

A ping trace got as far as 61.19.10.38 and then died. Guess who that address belongs to.

inetnum 61.19.0.0 - 61.19.15.255
netname CAT-IIGservice
country TH
descr CAT TELECOM Data Comm. Dept, Intrenet Office
descr send spam abuse to admin-thix@cat.net.th
admin-c TC476-AP
tech-c IC174-AP
status ALLOCATED NON-PORTABLE
changed suchok@cat.net.th 20040928
mnt-by MAINT-TH-THIX-CAT
source APNIC

Is it even remotely possible that they are blocking traffic from outside the country? Surely not.

Here in the good ole USA (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471421)

How long before someone tries this shit here in America, oh wait they already tried it in Missouri.

Jailed author back on Australian soil - Feb 09 (5, Interesting)

Eth1csGrad1ent (1175557) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471427)

If you think they aren't serious, check out the following recent story about a lucky Aussie who supposedly criticised the Thai Royal Family. I say lucky because, after much protest and legal fighting, he was deported after he'd been jailed for 6 years !

http://www.theage.com.au/national/jailed-author-back-on-australian-soil-20090221-8dx7.html [theage.com.au]
 

Re:Jailed author back on Australian soil - Feb 09 (3, Informative)

praksys (246544) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471535)

He was sentenced to either 3 or 6 years in prison (the article you linked to gave both numbers). He spent about six months in prison. Still way bad enough.

Re:Jailed author back on Australian soil - Feb 09 (5, Informative)

SpottedKuh (855161) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471553)

[...] he was deported after he'd been jailed for 6 years

As a quick correction to your post, he was actually jailed for six months. He had been sentenced to six years, but that was reduced to three years because of his guilty plea. He was pardoned about a month after his guilty plea, having spent a total of six months in prison.

Of course, it's still absolutely ridiculous!

(Source [wikipedia.org] )

Re:Jailed author back on Australian soil - Feb 09 (2, Funny)

oldhack (1037484) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471695)

Lesson? Don't go be a dumb ass in a foreign country and get yo ass thrown in the jail.

Thai king's mama so fat she spills over to Australia in Google map.

The Thai King is a... (0)

linzeal (197905) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471449)

The son of a malodorous hairy cunt and a mentally ill dog...

Top that

Re:The Thai King is a... (4, Funny)

Chuck Chunder (21021) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471545)

His mother was a hamster and his father smelt of elderberries!

Re:The Thai King is a... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471677)

I fart in his general direction!

Re:The Thai King is a... (2, Funny)

skabob (826380) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471557)

The Thai Fing is a Kink!

Paraphrasing the Wizard of Id. :)

Re:The Thai King is a... (1)

florescent_beige (608235) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471559)

The Thai King's mother is so fat when she gets in an elevator it goes down.

Re:The Thai King is a... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471703)

The Thai King's mother is so fat when she gets in an elevator it goes down.

The Thai King's mother is so fat that she tripped on Bangkok and landed on Shanghai.

Re:The Thai King is a... (1)

MonsterOfTheLake (880659) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471575)

The Thai King's momma is so fat when she bungee jumps, she brings down the bridge too.

Re:The Thai King is a... (2, Funny)

florescent_beige (608235) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471603)

Hey Thai King, is that a hat or the nose cone of a North Korean rocket that landed on your head?

Re:The Thai King is a... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471637)

I guess you, Rarian Rakista, have no desire to ever visit Thailand.

Snitch this (1)

renegadesx (977007) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471459)

Greetings Thai King!

I saw your mother last night, and I hummped her like a little bitch!
Kind Regards,
Grandpa Marsh
South Park, Colorado

After seeing the picture in TFA... (1)

Landshark17 (807664) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471509)

My first criticism of the king would involve his taste in hats.

protecttehking.net (1)

florescent_beige (608235) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471511)

So...who's going to register protecttehking.net and put up an nice pie-in-the-king's-face flash game?

Don't look at me I'm the brains of this operation.

Re:protecttehking.net (1)

n00btastic (1489741) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471549)

Hehe, I am doing my part by hitting f5 every few seconds!

Trust the Computer... (1)

Banichi (1255242) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471579)

...the Computer is your Friend.

I wonder if you have to register at the site to use it?

I know this means I'll never get to visit Thailand (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471605)

but... FUCK THE THAI MONARCHY! STUPID HEADS! :P sorry if that offends your monarchy, why don't you just go cry about it! Seriously, I mean no disrespect to the THAI people, who have a rich, glorious history, and culture. I just don't like seeing people getting imprisoned by governments, rather, all people should be taken prisoner by space pirates, or ninjas, so that the books they write in captivity will be more interesting. Peace!

Wow forums (1)

moniker127 (1290002) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471611)

I'm going to personally inundate the world of warcraft forums with links to that website.

Re:Wow forums (1, Offtopic)

superwiz (655733) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471721)

I'm going to personally inundate the world of warcraft forums with links to that website.

Oh, c'mon. Sure, insulting him will land you in jail, but is that really as bad as having to listen to WoW players' comments?

Find a way to get him addicted to WoW, that would be a punishment indeed. WoW's best service to humanity is keeping the worst of humanity locked up in a Sisyphean task.

Re:Wow forums (1, Offtopic)

WAG24601G (719991) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471805)

WoW's best service to humanity is keeping the worst of humanity locked up in a Sisyphean task.

That, sir, is worthy of a sig. I'll now conveniently ignore the irony-potential of substituting "Slashdot" for "WoW"...

There's a good reason for this law (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471625)

It's because the Thai king is a big fucking pussy who cries like a baby whenever someone says something not-nice about him.

Also, can we bomb his palaces? Just once? Please?

View the Site's contents (2, Informative)

nathan.fulton (1160807) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471659)

http://www.thekoratpost.com/Protectthekingwebsiteenglishdetails.html [thekoratpost.com]

It contains, in part, this: How To Report Tips

Tips â" This link provides a couple of methods on how to report tips in. One method is to mail to P.O. Box 999, Bangkok . Another indicated is to email directly to protecttheking@parliament.go.th As well, there is an in-page form in Thai for users to complete.

Law & Punishment

This page has five separate links under this title, numbered as shown for convenience. The unnumbered links are:

1. Article 2 - Use of Criminal Law

This section is a verbatim lift from Thai Criminal Code Chapter 2, Articles no. 4-7.

Article 6 - Principals and Supporters [of cr= iminal acts, i.e., lÃse majesté]

This section is a verbatim lift from Thai Criminal Code Chapter 6, Articles no. 83-89.

3. Article 7 â" Concurrence of Offenses
This section is a verbati= m lift from Thai Criminal Code Chapter 7, Concurrence of Offenses, Articles no. 90-91.

4. Article 9 â" Statute of Limitations

This section is a verbati= m lift from Thai Criminal Code Chapter 9, Prescription (statute of limitations.), Articles no. 95-101.

5. Part 2 â" Offenses Related to National Security; Article 2, Offenses Against the king, queen, heir to the throne or regent. [Translatorâ(TM)s note: This section is a verbatim lift from the = Thai Criminal Code Book II, Specific Offenses, Title 1, Offenses Relating to The Security of the Kingdom, Articles no. 107-112.

Re:View the Site's contents (1)

1 a bee (817783) | more than 5 years ago | (#27472041)

When repressive governments set up offices and instruments to have citizens spy on each other, what usually happens is that it just becomes a tool for parties to private disputes to hassle each other. It becomes easy to set up a bunch of false witnesses and turn in your adversary to the authorities.

And the government employees who run this racket, soon discover this abuse. And in an effort to separate the "good" reports from the "bad", they become gatekeepers. So now if you want to turn your adversary in, you must spend a bit of money.

And so a mob forms.. me thinks.

Report (2, Funny)

Alsee (515537) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471719)

Report: My neighbor was spreading rumors that the King was paranoid and an evil oppressive dictator imprisoning anyone who questioned or insulted him.

-

The Thai King is a spoiled child. (1)

flerchin (179012) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471811)

I learned at 3 years old that "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me."

Apparently the Thai king never did, what a retard.

Re:The Thai King is a spoiled child. (4, Informative)

Killjoy_NL (719667) | more than 5 years ago | (#27472193)

This king has (to my knowledge) always pardoned people who were convicted of this crime and he has also tried to get rid of this law.

protesttheking.net (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471821)

Only one letter off, and still available. I don't have time for such shenanigans, but somebody must.

I heard.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471835)

I heard that the king of Thailand can't have an orgasm unless he kills a dog.

That's just what I heard somewhere...

His hat looks stupid. (0)

Associate (317603) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471855)

Sucks to be the king.

Please someone inform the king he's doing it wrong (1)

pecosdave (536896) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471885)

It's supposed to read:

1. Wear silly hats
2. Arrest people for making fun of silly hat wearer
3. ??????
4. Profit!

Instead the king is pulling a:

1. Wear silly hats
2. Arrest people for making fun of silly hat wearer
3. Ruin lives needlessly
4. ???????

There is no profit!

Awesome - (2, Informative)

bizitch (546406) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471891)

I clicked the link for the snitching website - but it didn't work right away - so to be sure - I just clicked the link again - over and over and over and over - but it still didn't work ...

Not what they intended... (5, Funny)

LandownEyes (838725) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471925)

Bet they'll be pissed tomorrow when they check the submissions and it's nothing but "First post!!!!1'.

Idiots! (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27471935)

Too many people are spouting off and running off at the mouth because they are imposing their cultural views on the Thai people.

The king of Thailand is protected by a set of old laws called Lese Majeste, which essentially means it is a crime to injure the king in any way (including verbally).You may not agree with it, and in fact, the Thai king himself is against these laws, but this is their way.

You should also understand that the Thai people think very highly of the king and he has done a great many things to improve the lives of the everyday man. He is one of the great philanthropists of the 20 & 21st centuries.

Be more respectful of other cultures. Contrary to what most Americans seem to think, you are NOT the highest form of culture the world has ever seen and the rest of the world DO NOT want to be like you. We in the rest of the world have our own ways and, frankly, we've been doing it a lot longer than you lot.

Re:Idiots! (1)

DMalic (1118167) | more than 5 years ago | (#27472071)

Translation: Thai King awesome, Thai People dumb.

Re:Idiots! (1)

Stormwatch (703920) | more than 5 years ago | (#27472145)

The king of Thailand is protected by a set of old laws called Lese Majeste, which essentially means it is a crime to injure the king in any way (including verbally).You may not agree with it, and in fact, the Thai king himself is against these laws, but this is their way.

Fuck this multiculturalist bullshit. Lese majeste is nothing except a way to oppress the people. If you can't say your opinion on something, it is as evil as any dictatorship in the world. You see, after reading a bit about the king, I know he does not really deserve to be insulted, but I will insult him anyway, on principle!

So, let's see..... King Bhumibol's breath smells like rotten durian! He has porn magazines hidden inside that ugly ceremonial hat! He listens to Britney Spears all day long! He thinks "Twilight" is the greatest literary work ever! He picks his nose, then eats his own boogers! He smokes oregano! His mother was a hamster! MC Hammer sued him for unauthorized sampling! He doesn't do backups! He can't pull off a hadouken! He won a golden raspberry! He led the Windows ME developement team!

i think the russians and french had the right idea (2, Insightful)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471979)

monarchies are a ridiculous anachronism

uk, thailand, japan: follow nepal please, lose your bullshit historical baggage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepalese_monarchy [wikipedia.org]

Re:i think the russians and french had the right i (2, Insightful)

Microlith (54737) | more than 5 years ago | (#27472065)

Why should they, if it isn't causing problems? Last I looked, in Japan the monarchy wasn't even politically relevant or a problem.

Last I checked, the king of Thailand was pardoning most people arrested under the law. This is the government abusing their King to silence critics.

Or just idiocy to a phenominal degree,

Rights and freedom based on laws (2, Insightful)

mashihabong (864452) | more than 5 years ago | (#27471999)

I think people here get wrong idea. You should respect the local law. Many people here try to say it is okay to drive 200 km/h in US just because driving like that in Afghanistan is NOT illegal. I think many people should respect to other cultures. Don't set anything in developed countries as the world standard. I don't think it is the fault of King that someone is found guilty of lese-majeste. It is that person's duty to know the law or at least the culture / special law of where he or she is going. The lese-majeste law has been used for more than 77 years. Saying that the king is suck just because many people violated and found guilty of Thai lese-majeste law is the same as saying that the murdered victim is stupid just because a killer is accidentally there.

Re:Rights and freedom based on laws (1)

DMalic (1118167) | more than 5 years ago | (#27472087)

I hereby note that any Thai have full right in my mind to criticize U.S. marijuana laws and say whatever they might wish about the morons who enforce them. When an author is jailed in horrible conditions for a vague negative reference to a crown prince, your country is screwed the fuck up. This is a globalized world, and randomly imprisoning people for worthless crap is no longer going to cut it.

A Quick Lesson in Thai politics. (3, Informative)

jrhawk42 (1028964) | more than 5 years ago | (#27472053)

King Bhumibol Adulyadej is actually against the lÃse majesté law. So you're probably asking yourself why is this a problem? It's a problem for two reasons. One is the Thai people for the most part love their King, and insulting him is like insulting the country. Highly conservative groups feel like this is treason and should be treated as such. The other reason the lÃse majesté law is still in effect is that the current Thai government relies on the good name of the king. In their eyes if the King is no longer respected than the government that is supported by the king is no longer respected either. Yea it doesn't make much sense to normal people, but these are politicians we are talking about. I'd also like to point out that the Thai Monarchy is a shining example of how a Monarchy should behave. The Thai's have good reason to love their king.

get real (1)

speedtux (1307149) | more than 5 years ago | (#27472073)

King Bhumibol? With a name and a hat like that, one can't help but make fun of you.

Seriously: the EU and US should break off ties with Thailand until the nation gets real about political freedoms and human rights, and tourists should stay away.

To the King ... (1)

ScrewMaster (602015) | more than 5 years ago | (#27472081)

An large unknown population of political prisoners are currently being held for 3 to 15 years in Thai prisons for being interpreted as insulting the monarchy.

Two words: grow up.

Thailand's king isn't as backwards as you think (5, Interesting)

NewsWatcher (450241) | more than 5 years ago | (#27472195)

Well, it looks like it is time to sink the boot into Thais again, and their over-the-top laws in relation to Lese Majesty (criticising the royals).

I agree that people should be free to criticise anyone in a free society, and that locking people up for up to 15 years for something as minor as criticising a royal is ludicrous, here are some facts you may not be aware of:

1. Thailand's king Bhumibol Adulyadej said a few years ago in a birthday speech that the law of lese majesty was outdated and he would pardon anyone found guilty of the crime. He has since kept his word.

2. The crime of lese majesty came about in Thailand because under their constitution it is illegal for the royal family (who are supposed to be above the rest of society) to comment on the day-to-day running of society. They cannot respond to political attacks, nor can they react if people personally attack their character.

3. Because the Thai royals cannot respond to attacks, and take legal action or comment at any defamatory comments about them, the crime of lese majesty was inserted into the country's constitution, as a safeguard against political attacks on the royals.

4. Every time there is a general election the parliament has to vote on whether to can the lese majesty laws. Despite the king saying the laws no longer need to be in existence, the Thai people revere the king, and would vote out of office any politician who voted to abandon the lese majesty laws, hence the laws remain.

People in Thailand do not have the same freedom of speech rights that people in the west do, but to portray the king as some sort of evil ogre who is so sensitive to criticms that he cannot deal with an insult is just ridiculous.

This website will no doubt create a bureaucratic headache for the king, but should not be seen as evidence that Thailand is a dictatorial state.

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