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Multiple Fiber Cuts In San Francisco Area

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the shame-if-anything-bad-was-to-happen dept.

The Internet 368

georgewilliamherbert writes "Multiple news reports, mailing list posts, blogs, and tweets are pointing out two overnight acts of sabotage in the San Francisco Bay area, with long distance fiber network cables being cut in two locations in the early morning hours. The first cut, around 1:30 AM, affecting landline and cell phone service and 911 calls in the communities of Morgan Hill, Gilroy, and parts of Santa Cruz counties, was on an AT&T fiber alongside Monterey Highway near Blossom Hill Road, in San Jose. A second cut, around 3:30 AM, in San Carlos, affected Sprint fiber and has significantly disrupted services at the 200 Paul datacenter in southern San Francisco. Rumor says that this may be related to a AT&T communications workers contract having just expired — but no evidence has been published yet in the media, and this could be an intentional act of sabotage by someone unrelated to the company's workers."

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368 comments

This just in (5, Funny)

CRCulver (715279) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524219)

The NSA has volunteered to help fix the cables.

Re:This just in (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524351)

The NSA has volunteered to help fix the cables.

"You break it, you fix it."

Re:This just in (1)

Whillowhim (1408725) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524673)

I thought it was "you break it, you buy it". Though now that I think about it, that also sound surprisingly likely.

Re:This just in (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524685)

You think that's funny, but we know where you live. The black helicopters have just been dispatched.

I hope you like tropical weather, because we have a room in Club Gitmo just for you, free of charges.

Haha, get it? Free of charges? I kill me.

I told that one to Habib between waterboarding sessions last week. He thought that was pretty good. Of course, he also admitted that he wanted to blow up the White House, had sex with his mother, and believes in the Easter Bunny too.

And people think torture is bad. Actually, it's hi-larious.

Re:This just in (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524733)

Nope, it had to have been those darned vandals. You know, the ones who knew precisely which manhole to go down, had the tool to open it, knew which wires to cut and had the heavy-duty equipment to cut the large cables.

Re:This just in (5, Funny)

GNUbuntu (1528599) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524817)

Nope, it had to have been those darned vandals.

At least it wasn't those smelly visogoths who did it.

Re:This just in (2, Insightful)

moniker127 (1290002) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524901)

Or, just some morons with a bit of thermite and a crowbar.

Meh (3, Funny)

edlinfan (1131341) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524221)

Someone should have told that guy not to cut and run!

*ducks*

Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (3, Insightful)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524235)

Too mcuh open, ungaurded land. All it takes is a cut sopmewhere along hundreds of miles of cable to wreak havoc.

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (5, Funny)

Deadstick (535032) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524261)

I'm happy just to see someone on the Internet spell "wreak havoc" correctly...

rj

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524313)

I'm happy just to see someone on the Internet spell "rj" correctly...

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (0, Redundant)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524353)

Too mcuh open, ungaurded land. All it takes is a cut sopmewhere along hundreds of miles of cable to wreak havoc....

I'm happy just to see someone on the Internet spell "wreak havoc" correctly...

I'm glad the bar is low then... I was worried you missed the other spelling atrocities in his post.

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524567)

Woosh.

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (0, Offtopic)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524741)

Woosh yerself. There's a reason I didn't close that HTML tag.

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (5, Funny)

Itninja (937614) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524365)

At least he spelled something right in that sentence.

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (1)

Kleen13 (1006327) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524799)

Must have been a Duke Nukem player.

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (3, Insightful)

GNUbuntu (1528599) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524295)

All it takes is a cut sopmewhere along hundreds of miles of cable

That would be more probably like millions if not billions of miles of cable that criss-cross the country. And exactly how are you going to remedy that? The fact of the matter is there is neither enough people or resources to protect every inch of those cables.

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (0, Flamebait)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524343)

EUREKA!

We allow immigrants into our country in return for watching a span of cable, say 1.5 miles long as their job for 4 years. We could call it Cable Conscription.

Now they're not only in the country legally, but they're providing a service in return for entering the country. It's win-win! Someone call Obama, he needs to be briefed on this.

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (4, Funny)

JCSoRocks (1142053) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524379)

Obviously the answer is the use of fences, cameras, GPS systems installed in everyone, and the outlawing of the "terrorist fist bump." Problem solved.

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (1)

VeNoM0619 (1058216) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524427)

We could always build a fence around the cables that prevent people from getting into the cables. I heard that's been working very well at the south border.

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (1)

eln (21727) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524765)

That's it! The solution to our economic crisis! We'll just hire massive amounts of new soldiers and post one every 50 yards along the route of every buried cable in the country. We might have to import some people from other countries too, but we could be the first country ever to have 0% unemployment!

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (0, Offtopic)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524323)

Too mcuh open, ungaurded land.

Oh please! No more fences..We gotta tear down the ones we have. Go microwave if you have to. And lay more cable in a neural fashion to give true redundancy.

What's all these little red dotted lines beneath your quote there? :-)

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (4, Interesting)

Chabo (880571) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524369)

That's no reason not to have a massive multi-path infrastructure within cities.

Personally, I'd love to see cities implement GPONs (Gigabit ethernet Passive Optical Networks) within the cities, even if they kept the same connection for external traffic. Imagine downloading the Ubuntu 9.10 ISO on BitTorrent, finding a seeder in your city, and having the download speed limited by your hard drive write speed!

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (3, Insightful)

nine-times (778537) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524819)

I don't get it... How would that help Verizon sell you additional services?

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (1)

GNUbuntu (1528599) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524889)

Considering they've been laying down hundreds of thousands of GPON lines for over a year, I'm guessing they've found a way.

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (4, Interesting)

rmadmin (532701) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524617)

Us fiber owners have these neat tools that will tell you exactly where a fiber is damaged. To the foot.

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (5, Informative)

silentsteel (1116795) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524751)

If you are going to allude to the tool, you could at least let people know that it is an optical time domain reflectometer.

Re:Why our infrastructure is vulnerable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524849)

Yeah well guess what those cables are not above ground either. so more details about how it was cut might be better off. We talking Sonet/OC-48+ lines they are typically well buried for protection.

In San Francisco (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524237)

They call them "tweens"

Scrappers (5, Funny)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524239)

Could be someone trying to steal the fiber cables so they could sell the copper.

Re:Scrappers (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524289)

fibers dont have any real copper. Not the same thing as the other type of lines.

Re:Scrappers (5, Funny)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524345)

Not true. I cut a fiber and looked directly at it and it shined very much. It must have been good copper because I'm now blind in that eye :(

ya gotta look at it with the OTHER bad eye (1)

swschrad (312009) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524825)

long haul comms always run on laser IR light. can't look for it with a broom handle (the smoking part is where the light is) because it's not THAT powerful. doesn't have to be for an eye toaster, though. even visible red multimode fibers should be hack-tested with a dull white paper if you don't have your power meter with you, that's too bright for ya, too.

Re:Scrappers (1)

RoFLKOPTr (1294290) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524501)

fibers dont have any real copper. Not the same thing as the other type of lines.

I want to say "Woosh" in reply to your post... but something tells me OP was being serious.

Re:Scrappers (1)

GNUbuntu (1528599) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524547)

Well just to back him up in case the OP was being serious, some fiber optic cabling does use copper tubing as a water shield.

Re:Scrappers (4, Funny)

EkriirkE (1075937) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524299)

You mean gold. It conducts light better.

Re:Scrappers (2, Funny)

SirBitBucket (1292924) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524307)

Perhaps you want to think about that question... When they say fiber they don't mean lots of little copper fibers... Them fibers is glass!

And that sound... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524387)

And that sound was the joke going WAY over your head at 50,000 feet.

Re:Scrappers (1)

roman_mir (125474) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524665)

I always wanted to find out something. The kinds of posts like yours right now, are they really out of general misunderstanding of the joke in the GP or is it due to a systematic lack of sense of humor? (I used Canadian version of the word, though the meaning is universal.)

Really, did you not understand the joke in the GP, or did you understand it but believed that the GP was serious? It's not an attack, I just really would like to understand. Thank you.

Re:Scrappers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524879)

There is no indication in the GP that a joke was intended - for all intents and purposes, it looks like the poster is simply uninformed. Tone of voice is impossible to convey through text if no additional indication is given, such as a wink or a parenthetical explanation like (joking).

Other than the moderation of funny (and we all know that moderators are not always accurate), is there any indication that the post was meant as a joke? I see none. I find it reasonable to assume that the poster needs correction. (In fact, i read it, thought it was a bit odd, then was glad someone had pointed out the poster's problem.) People read /. to be informed as well as amused. I would argue first and foremost informed on interesting issues. Without any indication of humor in a post, I am not at all surprised to see a response that assumes it was not a joke.

It's a wave *and* a particle (2, Funny)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524355)

Could be someone trying to steal the fiber cables so they could sell the copper.

Give him a break guys, after all since the cables are carrying photons they can simultaneously be glass and copper. It all depends on what you do with them.

Re:Scrappers (5, Funny)

Lord Ender (156273) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524497)

I hear the price on transparent copper is through the roof these days.

Re:Scrappers (2, Funny)

_Sprocket_ (42527) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524699)

"Hello? Computer?"

Re:Scrappers (1)

SyntaxFeline (1288272) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524859)

"Maybe you should just use the keyboard?"

Bank Robbers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524591)

That was my first thought. Cut off 911, and other hiden alarm systems, then rob bank

Re:Scrappers (3, Insightful)

ameyer17 (935373) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524633)

While fiberoptic cables aren't copper, it's still possible.
People who steal copper don't seem to be intelligent enough to make that distinction.

Re:Scrappers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524899)

This is apparently what happens in S. Africa. They have to constantly lay down cables because they're dug up, melted and sold for their copper value.

Revenge of the SysAdmin? (3, Funny)

deanston (1252868) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524241)

Infrastructure. Infrastructure. Infrastructure.

Important Notice to WHOMEVER is Doing This! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524243)

Please let me join your Fight Club. Look I know you have your rules and you can't talk about it *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge* but please just take me with you. I want to be a part of Project Mayhem 2009!

Re:Important Notice to WHOMEVER is Doing This! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524335)

Wait by the tall oak near Sycamore and Spruce. We'll be in touch.

Yeah, I was just at West Marine in NJ.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524281)

I was just at West Marine in NJ and they told me this was why their computer systems were down.

All (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524285)

your base are belong to us.

If this was indeed sabotage.... (4, Insightful)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524297)

then I hope whoever did it gets nailed to the wall.

Just because you're unhappy about something doesn't give you the right to go fuck with a bunch of other people.

There's a term for that, it's called being a dickhead.

In general, I hate people.

Re:If this was indeed sabotage.... (4, Funny)

Thaelon (250687) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524731)

I find your ideas interesting and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Re:If this was indeed sabotage.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524839)

While in this particular case what happened is clearly illegal, sadly there is no law against being a dickhead.

Comm Loss (5, Funny)

Dr. Eggman (932300) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524333)

A loss of communication could only mean one thing: Invasion.

ObCoolHandLuke (1)

Amazing Quantum Man (458715) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524753)

What we have here, is a failure to communicate!

Sabotage by a unionized employee? (5, Interesting)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524347)

Say it ain't so!

Talk about people who never left high school mentality behind. Before the local GM plant closed here in Atlanta my friend's mom worked there and he also took up that type of employment. My ex-girlfriend is a UPS driver but not in the union. All can basically come up with the same type of stories. The first rule I learned about buying cars, don't get anything made just before, during, or just after, an agreement is being negotiated. The second thing I learned is, if you have union buddies order the car and they will follow it through the plant for you... don't order the fanciest electronics but don't be surprised at what is under the seat or hidden somewhere.

Sabotaging one's own employer is old hat. Favorite car tricks were bubble gum wads inside of panels. Dries and falls off after leaving the factory producing a nice rattle. Snappy a few clips helps too - but only inside of areas you can't see or get to easily. Getting drunk at work wasn't that difficult, if you got caught you might get in trouble, for about three days... and most of it goes away. As for my UPS friend. Finding dog shit on her car or under the handles is a monthly occurrence. Having her truck break down more than is statistically probable was a nuisance till a friend who knew the guys made it stop. Real damage to her car happened once till the police actually showed up to see it. Then it was down to harmless; if dog shit can count as harmless.

So I put odds on it being someone inside, someone who knows the areas to hit, just what to hit to not cause an all points freak out, but enough to annoy his employer and possibly the guys who get stuck fixing it. Make the office boys work overtime and see how they like it! Yeah that will show them.

Really it will blow your mind.

Please don't think its a majority thing, the fact is most are very good and want a successful company and job, the twits just wreck it all because they are still in that phase of "I'll hold my breath if I don't get my way". The problem is the rest don't do anything about it for fear of being the next target.

Re:Sabotage by a unionized employee? (5, Funny)

Nimey (114278) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524475)

What does the worker's ionization level have to do with anything? I'll pick up a stray electron here and there, maybe some beta radiation from the coal plant, but that doesn't mean I'm a bad person!

Re:Sabotage by a unionized employee? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524801)

What does the worker's ionization level have to do with anything? I'll pick up a stray electron here and there, maybe some beta radiation from the coal plant, but that doesn't mean I'm a bad person!

You know what they say about free radicals!

Re:Sabotage by a unionized employee? (3, Interesting)

je ne sais quoi (987177) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524601)

Here is a short list of things AT&T has done in recent memory: limits on "unlimited" use [slashdot.org] , cancellation of service for criticizing the company [slashdot.org] , and colluding with the RIAA & MPAA to spy on their internet customers [slashdot.org] , colluding with the NSA to illegally spy on U.S. citizens [internetnews.com] .

If the above list reflects how badly they treat they customers, before you get upset at the people working there you should probably consider that AT&T is not treating its workers well. I'm guessing it's not a good place to work and I'm assuming the workers were probably wrong until I found out the truth of the matter.

Re:Sabotage by a unionized employee? (4, Insightful)

je ne sais quoi (987177) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524755)

Also, as others have pointed out in this thread, you don't even know the workers did this. They could be framed by the company, or it could be random theft. For example, a while back some houses were burned in Washington state and it was blamed on ecoterrorists, but to me it looked just like insurance fraud. The housing market was tanking and that's a sufficient motive for someone to burn the property and blame someone else. If a contract is being negotiated, AT&T has sufficient motive to make the workers look bad, just as the workers have a motive to make AT&T give them a more favorable contract.

Re:Sabotage by a unionized employee? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524655)

Dude, your sentance structure is terrible. I could hardly understand that post.

Re:Sabotage by a unionized employee? (1)

Dynedain (141758) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524689)

The first rule I learned about buying cars, don't get anything made just before, during, or just after, an agreement is being negotiated.

So in otherwords, don't buy a car? It seems like agreements are always being negotiated.

Conficker (3, Funny)

odin84gk (1162545) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524377)

We learned another important detail about Conficker. Not only does it destroy software, but it feeds on fiber!

You know, like I've heard a lot of old timers say (1)

mdm-adph (1030332) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524401)

The whole Internet is so fragile on the backend.

Could one day we just learn to deal with the 1000ms latency times of a completely satellite-based network?

(Yes, I know it's not flawless, but it would prevent a lot of things like this happening.)

Re:You know, like I've heard a lot of old timers s (2, Insightful)

Kr1ll1n (579971) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524593)

I used to manage a network consisting of 300+ remote locations. All but 4 sites had broadband. The 4 without were structured as 3 with dial-up, and 1 with satellite. All 4 had VPN connectivity back to the corporate office. Connection to the satellite location was beyond flaky. The dial-up sites, however, where NEVER down. Satellite sucks, and is only a solution if you are so remote that it would cost the local telco more money to upgrade the area than you would bring in as a customer.

Re:You know, like I've heard a lot of old timers s (1)

orkybash (1013349) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524595)

Depends - what do you plan to do with it? Web browsing? Streaming media? Voice or video chat? Networked games? For some of those a 1 second latency is only a minor inconvenience, but for others its a bit more serious than that.
There's also the question of bandwidth costs which, I'm guessing, are more than a little bit higher for satellite-based networks.

Or it could have been... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524405)

.. a large cargo ship that got extremely lost and had to put down anchor.

Just curious... (1)

cplusplus (782679) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524423)

...but how do you repair a fiber optic cable that has been cut? What is the magic process for sticking it back together?

Re:Just curious... (5, Informative)

bami (1376931) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524521)

...but how do you repair a fiber optic cable that has been cut? What is the magic process for sticking it back together?

splicing it together.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_splicing [wikipedia.org]

It's like getting two copper wires and just heating the copper to such a high temperature that they melt and re-form one strand.

Re:Just curious... (1)

Starteck81 (917280) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524533)

I've never seen one operated but there are machines that cut the damaged ends, polish, and fuse a replacement length of fiber. The process is accurate to some small faction of a millimeter.

For more info fusion splice [tecratools.com]

Re:Just curious... (1)

Anti_Climax (447121) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524557)

Depending on the materials used (glass or different types of plastic) they can be fused back together with heat or an appropriate optically clear resin. I'd imagine each time it has to be done it would add a bit of loss to the line.

I don't work with fiber, just an educated guess.

Re:Just curious... (5, Informative)

georgewilliamherbert (211790) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524573)

Cut the fiber carefully and cleanly back from the cut, which has ragged ends. Usually a few feet in each direction.

Bring in a fiber patch section.

Go in with fiber polishing gear, to every individual fiber on one side, polish end, test end, polish again until it's smooth enough. Identify what fiber ID that fiber is. patch it together with the patch cable. Repeat on the other side of the patch.

Cross-test to ensure that you didn't cross any fibers in the reattachment - if so, pick one end as new ground truth, and repatch or logically reroute the other to match new physical reality.

Once the whole bundle has been repolished, patched, and tested on both sides, you wrap the patch sections up with new covering (armored section, flexible covering, depends on the cable and location). Apply waterproofing goop.

Put the manhole cover back on. Consider locking it down in place, this time...

This is tedious work, requires careful attention to detail to properly polish the cut fiber ends and repatch them, and for large fiber bundles takes forever. You can start running data through a fiber once its two ends are repatched - you don't have to get the whole bundle back for that - but the whole process can take 24-48 hours depending on how many fibers are involved and how much space there is to work in the trench or down the manhole. In many cases, there's only enough space for 1 or maybe 2 people to be working at any given time, which makes the repairs take forever...

Re:Just curious... (1)

Chabo (880571) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524575)

Well, what I'd do is take the cut ends, terminate them both, and put a coupler in the middle. It won't be "good as new", but it'll do pretty well. If it's a critical piece of fiber, you could put a repeater in, and theoretically improve the performance.

Re-terminating a fiber by hand takes less than 15 minutes, (I've only done it once, so it may even be well under 10 minutes for someone who does it all the time) and you'll have performance nearly as good as before.

Re:Just curious... (2, Informative)

Cramer (69040) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524895)

you'll have performance nearly as good as before

No you wont. This is not 62.5/50micron multi-mode fiber. A coupler in a single-mode fiber causes a great deal of signal loss. I have never seen anyone terminate SM fiber anywhere but a termination point (i.e. at the equipment, repeater, or patch pannel inside a building.) "Just install a repeater" is laughable... those things are not free and require power that isn't found in most ditches.

Today, we have very good equipment for making fusion splices -- to the point it's almost automatic. The real time consuming process is getting to the fiber to fix it in the first place. Followed closely behind by the tediousness of getting each strand connected to the correct other half.

Re:Just curious... (1)

silent_artichoke (973182) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524745)

Duct tape, of course.

Re:Just curious... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524909)

I used to do this for a living. The part that takes the longest is prepping the fiber. The individual fibers are usually in small tubes that are filled with a water blocking gel. The gel is really sticky and a real pain to clean off. If there was enough slack you would only have to splice the ends together. If there were no slack then you would have splice in a piece. You can see the slack that is stored between poles, there are metal frames that look like snowshoes. When the crews are installing the fiber the wrap some cable between the snowshoes for this type of circumstance.
The machine I used was very cool. It used about 600v between 2 electrodes to melt the fiber together. All you had to do after you prepped the fiber was position each end in the machine and press the button. It would feed the fiber ends toward each other ever so slightly as it arced across the electrodes and melted the fiber together. This took less than a second, the time consuming part was getting every thing ready.

BOFH (1, Informative)

Starteck81 (917280) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524433)

Sound like the work of the Bastard Operator From Hell.

Fiber Cut Solved: +1, PatRIOTic (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524477)

Get some pipe and welding equipment.

Yours In Corruption,
Ted Stevens

Story is a troll? (5, Interesting)

PFAK (524350) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524529)

Back in '05 when our local telecommunications company (TELUS) in British Columbia went on strike, some lines were cut and service for a couple thousand customers was lost. Of course, the first thing the company does is blame the union for sabotage.

Turns out it was just some thieves cutting the lines for copper, but that didn't come out until a month after the labour dispute ended.

Most likely the same thing happened here, thieves aren't exactly smart and most union employees would not risk the bad press something like this would generate.

Multiple cuts as sabatoge (1)

internerdj (1319281) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524551)

Oh wait, by multiple they mean two...

Re:Multiple cuts as sabatoge (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524701)

which means more than one hence...

Act of Terrorism (1)

altek (119814) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524577)

I'd put money that they will call this an act of terrorism if they catch the parties responsible. These folks are going to get pinned to the wall. Especially since they have disrupted infrastructure and broken the 911 system.

Re:Act of Terrorism (-1, Troll)

pcolaman (1208838) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524813)

It's San Fransisco. In their world, terrorists don't exist, so I doubt Terrorism charges would hold in that city. And honestly, if terrorism did occur in SF, would we really be that torn up over it?

Re:Act of Terrorism (1)

altek (119814) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524877)

Wow, bitter much???

Seriously, it's folks like you who contribute to our divided country. How can you possibly state that people wouldn't or shouldn't care about acts of terrorism on American lives simply because they reside somewhere that you don't like the culture or politics (or whatever crack pot reason you have).

It's diversity that makes America great.

Stop trolling.

Must have been a Canuck..... (1)

IgnacioB (687913) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524629)

If it is terrorism from an insurgent...that's the most angry Canadian I've ever heard of...and we clearly need better border security for this new threat!

Status from earlier in the day... (5, Informative)

sillivalley (411349) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524639)

Activity Type Code Desc: PROGRESS COMMENTS
Activity Type Code: PROG

OTDR readings were taken by AT&T West and a cut was located 1600 ft from
the San Jose, CA central office. AT&T West technicians are onsite
working to isolate the exact location of the cut. There are 4 cables
impacted. AT&T Mobility has 61 GSM and 45 co-located UMTS sites out of
service off of Santa Clara Base Station Controllers 15 & 23, and Santa
Clara Radio Network Controller 4. E911 has 52 Location Measuring Units
down. The AT&T West Santa Cruz 11 central office (41,803 ATNs) is
experiencing an SS7 isolation and the San Martin central office (11,904
ATNs) lost it's umbilical and is isolated at this time. The Bailey
remote site (4,973 ATNs) is also isolated. Scott's Valley has 3 out of 4
SS7 links down. The Santa Cruz 01, Aptos, Scott's Valley, Felton,
Boulder Creek, Ben Lomand, San Jose 11, San Jose 13, San Jose 21 central
offices have trunks impacted such that all lines are busy and incoming
calls are receiving trouble messages. The Santa Cruz County SO (178,040
ATNs), Scott's Valley PD (12,007 ATNs) and the UC Santa Cruz PD (14,909
ATNs) are all without ALI at this time. The Gilroy PD PSAP and the
Morgan Hill PD and CDF have been rerouted with ALI/ANI. The Felton CDF
has not been rerouted. There are 17 DSLAMS and 4 ATMS out of service
impacting DSL service. There are 3 SMDI Links down impacting voicemail
service. Verizon's Morgan Hill and Gilroy central offices are currently
isolated. There have been 224,865 blocked calls.

Tweets (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524649)

Thanks for the tweetlink. Please keep us tweetdated. That tweeter must have had a tweetgasm when he saw he was being tweetdotted!

(Ugh, gonna go shoot myself in the head now...)

Re:Tweets (2, Funny)

silent_artichoke (973182) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524767)

I dugg your slashdotteriffic post after I reddit.

Looking on the bright side (5, Funny)

OMGcAPSLOCK (1507399) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524663)

At least this happened in a geographically fortuitous area when it comes to repairing the damage. I hear San Francisco has some of the most experienced pipe specialists in the country

Re:Looking on the bright side (1)

GNUbuntu (1528599) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524735)

I hear San Francisco has some of the most experienced pipe specialists in the country

That's what he said!

Explains a lot (2, Interesting)

Amazing Quantum Man (458715) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524675)

Can't get through to ucsc.edu today.

Re:Explains a lot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27524873)

Bad day to set up a firewall. I thought the firewall was blocking everything :( ...couple more grey hairs

these weasels always get to walk in a year or two. (1)

swschrad (312009) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524779)

it's a Federal offense to tamper with regulated communications infrastructure, five years in the slammer and (pitifully inadequate) $5000 fine. they need to catch these weasels, and for once, put them away like the Wacko bin Loonies they are. a garden variety thug in Fargo took that town down for almost a week with a hacksaw a few years ago, and only sat for a year to think about it.

Question (1)

moniker127 (1290002) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524853)

Why would an ATT employee make more work for themselves by cutting a fiber line? Besides, they're still in negotiations.

Haven't had this much fun... (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524857)

Since a backhoe cut 50,000 fiber lines twice in two days in North San Jose. The phone company had people watching the backhoe to make sure that didn't happen a third time.

Revision3 (1)

hippie-joel (1399283) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524907)

San Francisco bay area you say? I blame Revision3, since IIRC they are located there...

Two cuts in two hours = 1 person (2, Interesting)

klapaucjusz (1167407) | more than 5 years ago | (#27524917)

It's not multiple cuts. It's just two cuts, done within two hours. The two sites are apparently within an hours' drive.

So it's not some massive conspiracy, just a single person with a saw.

Interestingly enough, while our best-beloved governments are posturing about how they need to enact even more security laws in order to fight terrorism, a single person with a chainsaw is all it takes to deprive a large area of telephone and Internet service, including emergency service.

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