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Dell Adamo Review — Macho Outside, Sissy Inside

ScuttleMonkey posted more than 5 years ago | from the playing-catch-up dept.

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Odelia Lee writes with a full review of Dell's new Adamo slimtop over at Gizmodo. While it may have an sleek exterior there are definite gaps (both literal and figurative) in their engineering. "The Adamo is both a compliment and an insult to Dell engineering. It's possibly the most beautiful computer Dell has ever manufactured, but I'm not sure that Dell has caught up to competitors in either aesthetics or power. There have been lots of qualitative Adamo reviews out there, but we got the first of the units that will actually ship to customers, so it's time for real benchmarks. As it happens, performance is really what's at stake here."

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Hey Mike... (5, Funny)

seanadams.com (463190) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535281)

Why don't you just wind it down and give the money back to your shareholders? Or stick to servers.

Holy Shit, Mac Crazies Are Still Crying Over That (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27535541)

Man, did you cry like a fucking infant when big bad Michael Dell said those bad things about your precious Apple all those years ago?

Re:Hey Mike... (0)

f1vlad (1253784) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535545)

NASDAQ%3ADELL have been doing quite well lately.

Re:Hey Mike... (5, Informative)

QuantumRiff (120817) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535925)

The parent was referring to when Mr. Dell said that that's what he would do if he was in charge of Apple a few years ago. Since then, they have skyrocketed...

It gets worse: See the commercial. (4, Funny)

Futurepower(R) (558542) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536091)

Adamo commercial [youtube.com]

Commercial badly needed Ricardo Montalban (2, Funny)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 5 years ago | (#27537023)

That commercial would have been perfect, if only Ricardo Montalban [youtube.com] were still with us to tout the "Rich Corinthian Leather" of the Adamo (and hey, they DO talk about leather around 2:17 in the Adamo video).

  It could be in a wrist pad...

Re:It gets worse: See the commercial. (1)

fbjon (692006) | more than 5 years ago | (#27537105)

Holy green screen jaggies, Batman! I might expect something like this in the early morning on some tv-shopping channel.

Adamo sounds like a child pornography website (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27535337)

Adamo sounds like a child pornography website.

Re:Adamo sounds like a child pornography website (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27535723)

You would know.

My Baptist minister says...
GO TO HELL, YOU FILTHY SCUM! Alabama is a state of high morales, so get out and stop ruining it!

--

This post brought to you by www.homophobesagainstgaymarriage.com

Re:Adamo sounds like a child pornography website (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27535877)

Alabama is a state of high Morales...

I didn't know Alabama had a large Latino population, much less a large population of Latinos on drugs.

Silly Dell (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27535351)

Nothing will ever out-gay the Fagbook Air!

Gaming laptop? (1)

Scragglykat (1185337) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535399)

Will the Dell Adamo be able to play Eveo Online at least?

Who cares (-1, Flamebait)

Colin Smith (2679) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535415)

It's a pc.

 

Re:Who cares (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27535471)

Anything is better than a fruit.

Re:Who cares (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27535619)

Good point.

If you have a ribbed dildo up your ass, you probably don't care about this.

Article summary nails it (4, Insightful)

MBCook (132727) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535435)

I think the article summary nails it.

The Adamo is a bit of a strange beast. It's not as feathery as the Lenovo X301 or the MacBook Air, and even with that extra pound of heft, it's (overall) not as powerful as the MacBook Airâ"a computer that's incidentally cheaper than the Adamo in its base configuration.

Bigger, heavier, louder (which, to me, is half the point of something like the air), integrated battery (just like the air), bad performance, higher price... what's the point?

It's nice looking, but it sounds like an Air is a much better all around computer. The only thing in it's favor is the higher max RAM (Apple will probably change that) and the integrated 3G option (I'd expect Apple to change that too). Gizmodo is also right that nVidia's next chipset for netbooks will outperform this, at 1/5th the price. It has eSata too though, which is a plus.

Nice try Dell. It is certainly very nice visually. But you need some substance to go with that, or at least a cheaper price point.

Re:Article summary nails it (2, Informative)

nsayer (86181) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535643)

The only thing in it's favor is the higher max RAM (Apple will probably change that) and the integrated 3G option (I'd expect Apple to change that too).

Why?

I can almost see a case being made for 3 GB of RAM instead of 2 (for folks to run a VM with Windows, perhaps), but if you want higher performing graphics, you're going to see either an increase in weight or a decrease in battery life, neither of which is acceptable in that form factor product.

I suspect that Dell didn't get the memo, which is why theirs is heavier and louder.

Re:Article summary nails it (1)

salimma (115327) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536127)

There's no point limiting memory to 3GB. You either have two accessible slots for 2x2GB, or one accessible slot for 2GB.

Sure, you could solder in another 1GB, but in that case, why not ship with 2GB out of the box and leave room for another 2GB in a user-accessible slot? The price difference between 1GB and 2GB is minimal, and you don't get the embarrassment of watching Vista crawl on the base configuration.

Re:Article summary nails it (1)

nsayer (86181) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536493)

I think part of the point of the Air is that making memory user installable costs weight and size. They went to extremes to minimize both (further extremes that Dell, apparently), and in the process fixed the RAM configuration.

Re:Article summary nails it (1)

Savage-Rabbit (308260) | more than 5 years ago | (#27537515)

I can almost see a case being made for 3 GB of RAM instead of 2 (for folks to run a VM with Windows, perhaps), but if you want higher performing graphics, you're going to see either an increase in weight or a decrease in battery life, neither of which is acceptable in that form factor product.

I suspect that Dell didn't get the memo, which is why theirs is heavier and louder.

Dell has a tradition of making the IT equivalent of industrial machinery. Any company with that sort of tradition will find that making elegant lightweight designs is a tougher proposition than it seems to be at first glance... Lamborghini notwithstanding.

Re:Article summary nails it (1)

escay (923320) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535721)

Macho outside, really? i think Adamo is pretty much sissy all over.

Re:Article summary nails it (1)

iMac Were (911261) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536535)

Macho outside, really? i think Adamo is pretty much sissy all over.

You say that as if it's a bad thing. Ooooh, you brute!

Re:Article summary nails it (2, Insightful)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536029)

Bigger, heavier, louder (which, to me, is half the point of something like the air), integrated battery (just like the air), bad performance, higher price... what's the point?

And despite this, the anti-Mac fanatics will continue to claim that a Mac is always more expensive than a PC with comparable specs.

Re:Article summary nails it (0)

uniquename72 (1169497) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536175)

Hmmm...haven't seen that yet. But it sure didn't take long for a Mac fanboi to cry about how unfairly some fictional 'anti-Mac fanatics' will respond.

/ apathetic win/mac/linux user

Re:Article summary nails it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27537211)

It's nice looking, but it sounds like an Air is a much better all around computer. The only thing in it's favor is the higher max RAM (Apple will probably change that) and the integrated 3G option (I'd expect Apple to change that too). Gizmodo is also right that nVidia's next chipset for netbooks will outperform this, at 1/5th the price. It has eSata too though, which is a plus.

So aside from the built in evdo card, eSata, dongleless video out, extra ram and the ability to copy files directly from one usb stick to another without needed a USB hub, AC brick and extra cables, it's like an air? Or to be fair, an overpriced netbook with virtualization extensions in the cpu, (like the air).

I like my $260 Acer Aspire one for for web stuff and my VM servering Thinkpad x61t for $~1k (now, price was comparable to the air at one point, but unlike Apple, PC prices tend to fall in time). Oh and to the people who think Mac resale value is good... That's like being forced to buy a 0% interest CD.

Re:Article summary nails it (4, Interesting)

arth1 (260657) | more than 5 years ago | (#27537707)

Bigger, heavier, louder (which, to me, is half the point of something like the air), integrated battery (just like the air), bad performance, higher price... what's the point?

It's not a notebook for you and me, who want the best bang for the buck. It's aimed at mid-to-upper level managers and sales staff, who need something that feels sturdy and looks classy, yet is capable of non-intensive tasks like displaying powerpoint presentations, send an e-mail saying you'll be late for tee-off, and watch pr0n^Wlight entertainment from the hotel room.

How it performs is irrelevant -- the intended user group wouldn't be able to take advantage of the performance anyhow.

I predict it's going to sell well to its target group -- especially in the numerous companies where Dell is one of a few approved manufacturers to choose from, and an Apple wouldn't be paid for by the company even if it danced the jitterbug and wiped your arse.

Re:Article summary nails it (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 5 years ago | (#27537771)

Anyone thinking about an Adamo should buy a refurbished HP EliteBook instead. I'm pretty anti-HP but I got this 8730w as a replacement for my total lemon nw9440 and so far it has been pretty damned sweet. At this point I am running Intepid with Compiz and Emerald, using avant-window-navigator-trunk, and google gadgets. I have XP (This machine came with XP Pro and Vista Business licenses) installed in a VirtualBox VM and it works pretty good (though in general not as good as vmware - but the last time I installed vmware it crapped itself. haven't tried on this install.) The only thing I haven't tried is the linuxant modem driver for the shitty internal modem. You can get these kitted all different ways but this one was listed as $1250 with T9400, 2GB/250GB 7200RPM, Quadro 2700M 512MB, 17" 1680x1050. It almost makes amends for the hours I spent on the phone with HP support :/

Re:Article summary nails it (2, Funny)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 5 years ago | (#27537953)

Bigger, heavier, louder (which, to me, is half the point of something like the air), integrated battery (just like the air), bad performance, higher price... what's the point?

But, but, but... this can't be true! Lord Ballmer informed us that Apple computers are $500 more than the equivalent competition! So a computer from a budget manufacturer like Dell should be faster, lighter, and quieter than the MacBook Air for less money!

This story must be a LIE!!

Re:Article summary nails it (0, Troll)

fermion (181285) | more than 5 years ago | (#27538345)

Hardware design is very hard. Apple has 30 years experience at designing very nice hardware that works, essentially from scratch. Dell has a little more than 20 years experience putting commodity components together to make a PC to be sold at low price points. Even MS, with all it's resources, has trouble actually making hardware that people are actually willing to pay for. The only one in Apples class right now is HP. Alas, much of the stuff falls into the category of cheap PC or too expensive pro. They seem to have trouble controlling costs. I have a beautiful 15" laptop from HP, but it cost as much as the 17" laptop from Apple.

So this is pretty much par for the course. I don't know how much it is going to effect the Macbook Air, simply because Apple does not believe in selling computers based on the number of ports. I like the idea of wireless, but would hope that it would not be just ATT because there are some cheaper deals out there, unless we can use it as part of out iPhone plan, or just a nominal additional cost. Sure, that will happen, it will be another $40. In any case, the battery life of the Air is not so great, and I suspect that broadband might bring it to an hour.

Right now the Air is 2 GB memory, standard. When the 4GB chips become cheap enough, and there is enough battery power, and if heating is not an issue, I suspect we will see that upgrade.

The Dell machine is probably a good choice for someone who need to run windows on the road. The market is those who are willing to pay for a lighter laptop, and the selling point is not going to price or weight or any of those things. It is that you can run Windows and play on the internet wherever you are, and it will be a good experience. The average net-book cannot say that. The air could probably do that using boot camp and an external drive, but that is not nearly as nice of a solution.

Adamo from Dell (4, Funny)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535449)

Dell Adamo [adamobydell.com] , for when you want to be pretentious, but you can't afford Apple.

And yes, that website is hideous Flashturbation. I dare you to "encounter," "admire," "discover," or "commit" anything useful about the Adamo on the page. Apple gets credit here for blending marketing and tech specs. Where is the audience for Adamo? They already bought Apple or they're scratching their heads trying to find out how much RAM and CPU it has.

Re:Adamo from Dell (5, Funny)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535493)

Dell Adamo [adamobydell.com] , for when you want to be pretentious, but you can't afford Apple.

Did you miss the part where it's more expensive than an Air?

Re:Adamo from Dell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27536009)

Dell is obviously taking a page from Apple's playbook.. In this case, using the page called "Perceived Value." By raising the price they can make it that much more desirable.. Like a $15 bottle of water.

Re:Adamo from Dell (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27536017)

Owning a MBA requires one to spend $100/day at Starbucks, $1300/month at Armani and $90/month with AT&T.

Adamo, in comparison, only requires $8/day at Starbucks, $50/month at GAP and nothing with AT&T.

Re:Adamo from Dell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27538349)

Owning a MBA requires one to spend $100/day at Starbucks, $1300/month at Armani and $90/month with AT&T.

This works for both the Apple MBA, and the fake degree MBA.

Re:Adamo from Dell (5, Informative)

99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535567)

Dell Adamo, for when you want to be pretentious, but you can't afford Apple.

Umm...

Dell Adamo:

  • 1.2GHz - $1999
  • 1.4GHz - $2699

Apple MacBook Air:

  • 1.6GHz - $1799
  • 1.4GHz - $2499

I'm no math whiz, but...

Re:Adamo from Dell (4, Informative)

99BottlesOfBeerInMyF (813746) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535685)

Correction, that last MacBook Air should be the 1.86GHz model.

Re:Adamo from Dell (1, Informative)

Quantos (1327889) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535903)

The Toshiba Qosmio is a far better buy than the Adamo as well.
2.13 GHz- $1849.00
Nothing special there with the Adamo, we can all find better products than a Dell, at a better price. You just need to look, and work out the arm muscles :)

Re:Adamo from Dell (2, Insightful)

beelsebob (529313) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536121)

Why are you even bothering comparing a 17 or 18" gaming hunk of junk with a 13" ultra-thin?

Re:Adamo from Dell (1)

Quantos (1327889) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536613)

Then take your pick from Tiger Direct [tigerdirect.com] .
Like I said, you can find them anywhere. The reason I chose the "gaming hunk of junk" is that it is far more functional. You just need to work on the upper body strength a bit :)

Oh and AC, yes they are warm, but I don't put them on my lap. I've never had one overheat though, and this is far from my first Toshiba.

Re:Adamo from Dell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27537875)

Did you read TFA?

Remove "gaming" from your statement and it would be about right.

The MacBook Air outperformed it in all the gaming benchmarks. There's not much, if anything, the Adamo is good at, it seems.

Re:Adamo from Dell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27536189)

Except for the fact that every single Toshiba laptop I have seen in the past 5 years has had severe overheating problems. Further, Toshiba as a company makes low quality products that have a high rate of failure.

Re:Adamo from Dell (1)

moonbender (547943) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536599)

The Toshiba Qosmio is a far better buy than the Adamo as well.

Wow, that has got to be the ugliest laptop I have ever seen. "New eye-popping design" -- it popped my eyes, I'll give em that, now how do I stop the bleeding?

Re:Adamo from Dell (1)

Quantos (1327889) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536649)

Just apply alot of pressure :)
I solved that by just looking at the screen instead of the case.

MegaHertz myth? (1)

ChunderDownunder (709234) | more than 5 years ago | (#27537787)

The Adam-O machines are clearly using the low powered versions optimised for battery life.

If this gives you an extra 3/4hr battery life(*), some would count that as a feature over raw performance.

(*) I just made that figure up but you get the idea.

Re:Adamo from Dell (1)

cachimaster (127194) | more than 5 years ago | (#27538137)

... but you are not a computer wizard either.

Adamo has a ULV processor, SU9300 according google, while Macbook air is a LV processor.
The difference is in power consumption. LV thermal design is 15 Watts max, while ULV is 5 watts max.
That helps with the battery but the most bigger difference IMHO is the heat. ULV processors runs *cool* even at 100% while LV processors, while cooler than normal processors, put a fairy quantity of heat directly on your hands, and that sucks. I know by experience that the ULV processor of the lenovo X200 is dead cool, while the LV of my X60 get hot sometimes. But ULV is slower, yes.

Re:Adamo from Dell (1)

Lueseiseki (1189513) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536069)

Well, I like the music.

Yay for expanding my vocabulary! (5, Funny)

zooblethorpe (686757) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536269)

And yes, that website is hideous Flashturbation.

Thank you, Gizmonic, for introducing me to yet another word I expect never to use in polite company. :)

Cheers,

Re:Adamo from Dell (1)

phantomfive (622387) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536473)

I dare you to "encounter," "admire," "discover," or "commit" anything useful about the Adamo on the page.

They're mixing two different lingo-sets. 'Commit' is a word for business people, much like paradigm, synergy, or innovate.

The word they REALLY want is 'acquire.' That will appeal much more to the hipster, pay-too-much-money crowd who believes that neither looks nor performance actually matter, but how 'deck' the person selling it is, and how he 'relates' to them. People who believe you can experience love with a laptop. And that's all that matters.

There must be someone in the world like that. Maybe they live in New York.

If you turn off Javascript... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27537303)

it actually serves up a decent page, with a couple pics and some specs. I think the Adamo is pretty hideous, personally, and I'm no Dell hater.

Apples and Oranges? (2, Interesting)

icebike (68054) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535499)

The processor speed of the Macbook Air was a lot higher than the Adamo. The Adamo easily outpaced the Lenovo with the same processor speed.

Of course processor speed isn't everything.

The video card is the key here (or so the reviewers would have your believe).

In the real world that this device was meant to operate in, I suspect Joe User would never notice the difference in video performance since its adequate for YouTube.

Re:Apples and Oranges? (5, Informative)

MBCook (132727) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535535)

Gizmodo mentions the CPU speed thing, but they also point out the Air is cheaper in it's minimal configuration but still faster than the Adamo.

Re:Apples and Oranges? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27535865)

Gizmodo mentions the CPU speed thing, but they also point out the Air is cheaper in it's minimal configuration but still faster than the Adamo.

And pray what are those minimal specs on the apple?

Re:Apples and Oranges? (2, Informative)

UnknowingFool (672806) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536019)

The base model Air is a 1.6GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor (SL9300) with a 1066MHz FSB and 6MB cache whereas the base Adamo has a 1.2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (SU9300) with a 800 MHz FSB and 3MB cache. At $1799, the Air uses a 120GB SATA and the $1999 Adamo uses a 128GB SSD. The $2699 Adamo ups the CPU to 1.4 GHz and the memory to 4GB but still at 800MHz FSB.

Re:Apples and Oranges? (1)

beelsebob (529313) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536053)

That would be with a 1.6Ghz CPU â" faster than the fastest Adamo.

Re:Apples and Oranges? (0, Offtopic)

ShooterNeo (555040) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535641)

If I pay $2000 for a laptop computer, it needs to be a state of the art, high performance beast.

Re:Apples and Oranges? (1)

jgtg32a (1173373) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535881)

Then you are looking for a desktop replacement not a ultra slim. Granted its going to be bigger than a newborn baby and weigh a bit more.

Re:Apples and Oranges? (1)

linzeal (197905) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535763)

Never buy anything with an Intel graphics chip, they are junk.

Re:Apples and Oranges? (1)

Mista2 (1093071) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535937)

So what they have made is a U$2000 netbook?

Now I have an Acer Aspire one, and I keep thinking, this only needs a keyboard that doesnt flex and an aluminium case and it would be about the same as a macbook Air, just smaller and with more USB ports. The air will still kick it's ass for graphics and general speed becuase it had better graphics and a proper SSD HDD, but Ther Acer only costs NZ$500, and an Air costs NZ$3000

Re:Apples and Oranges? (1)

beelsebob (529313) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536065)

No, but price for price is fair â" 1.6Ghz MacBook Air against 1.2Ghz Adamo, or 1.8Ghz MacBook air against 1.4Ghz Adamo.

The MacBook comes out cheeper, lighter, quieter, and more powerful on both comparisons.

Re:Apples and Oranges? (1)

Auroch (1403671) | more than 5 years ago | (#27537191)

Yes, apple did get the youtube working reasonably well properly on the SECOND revision of the air. I wonder if the adamo comes with the same power saving feature? (turning off randomly...)

Re:Apples and Oranges? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27538313)

The video card is the key here

Nuh-uh!

Everyone knows that the RAMs and Megapixels are what's important!

It needs more tubes in its interweb too.

-Ted

I've already said so (1)

rinoid (451982) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535503)

The Adam0 is a bore.

Great design? It's squarer than the Air, sure. Great? Well, it is cleaner than anything I've EVER seen from Dell.

Light? It's a full pound heavier than the Air -- now that's a fatty!

Can you make a commercial begging someone to take your money and buy a light laptop and NOT buy the Air?
Nope! -- At $2600 for an Adama that does not out perform the top end Air at 2,499.00 (starting at 1799.00 btw).

I still don't know why ppl drool for Netbooks either ... at least these things have full size keyboards and screens. If all I did was email and surf it'd be great.

And BTW -- who cares about HDMI out? I don't really care as long as I can hook the device up to a projector or external monitor. Both the Adam0 and the Air satisfy this need.

Re:I've already said so (3, Insightful)

dgatwood (11270) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535939)

A lot of us like netbooks precisely because they don't have full size keyboards or screens.

Re:I've already said so (1)

jrothwell97 (968062) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536149)

Great design? It's squarer than the Air, sure. Great? Well, it is cleaner than anything I've EVER seen from Dell.

I'll admit the design isn't too bad (I still think it's ugly, but that's my own opinion).

It was a bit cheeky of Dell, though, to parrot at the beginning of the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUJqWc6seYk [youtube.com] Adamo promotional video (if you haven't seen that video, watch it: it's hilariously bad, even worse than the MS Songsmith one) how dedicated Dell is to industrial design. This has a particular resonance with me, because I distinctly remember certain Optiplexes which hid the front ports behind a silly snap-lock door, so to plug in a USB drive you had to pry away the door, fumble to get the device in, and then install a mirror so that you could see the access light (they made the silly mistake of placing them the wrong way round.)

Those are very dubious industrial design credentials.

Re:I've already said so (1)

maxume (22995) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536157)

If 6 or 7 pounds is a problem (and the Dell is only 4), the laptop isn't the only sissy.

Re:I've already said so (3, Insightful)

Duradin (1261418) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536805)

"An ounce in the morning is a pound in the evening." - Old hiking adage.

If you're paying good money for laptop that focuses on portability weight is rather important.

At first, you think the people that cut down the handles of their toothbrush to save weight are rather nuts. Then you find out that all their crazy methods of shaving off weight from individual items actually ends up to a noticeable reduction in overall weight.

The same principles applies to more work related traveling. If you can shave off a pound here, a few ounces there, eventually you're commuting with a noticeably lighter load.

Re:I've already said so (2, Funny)

maxume (22995) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536867)

Yet this brings to mind a fat guy riding an extremely fancy bike.

Re:I've already said so (1)

Znork (31774) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536337)

I still don't know why ppl drool for Netbooks either

They're still a bit large and unwieldy, but they're at the point where you can stick'em in a coat pocket or trivially fit them into a fairly small backpack. And large though my coat pockets may be, there's simply no way I'll fit a full size keyboard in it.

Personally I don't get why people have ordinary laptops; they have nowhere near the screen space or performance to act as a decent replacement for a desktop, nor are they portable enough to do much but lug them between workplaces and, perhaps, meetings.

And of course, I don't get the 'flat' or 'thin' thing at all. The 'flatness' criteria falls somewhere below 'amount of rose scent emitted' for a computing device for me...

But hey, I guess we've all got different uses for our devices :).

Re:I've already said so (3, Insightful)

KylePflug (898555) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536957)

A lot of mobile professionals who carry computers in a bag along with, say, documents or books will find "thin" to be at least as important as the other dimensions. For example, a 17" Macbook and a 13" Macbook take up functionally the same amount of space in a messenger bag (1"), which is a lot less than many cheaper computers.

Thin is expensive, and is only worth it if it's actually useful, but sometimes it is truly useful.

Which is it? Cheap, Fast, or Pretty? (0, Flamebait)

mpapet (761907) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535537)

This is the epitome of crappy consumer journalism. It is IMPOSSIBLE for a reader to establish the value of the product.

Damning it with manufacturing issues when the consumer that cares is not Dell's primary customer. Were the issues preventable? Yes. Would the end-user price gone up to a point it no-longer makes sense to a Dell customer? Probably.

Damning it with performance issues. Again, the price would have been negatively affected by trying to make it mac-like. Not to mention driving *Dell* customers away!

I'm not a Dell consumer at all, but there was a very good reason they have become as large as they are. Customers think the product is 'good-enough.' This is a super-slim laptop that will be a good fit for Dell customers.

Damn you Gizmodo! Daaaammmmmmnnnn you!!!!!!

Re:Which is it? Cheap, Fast, or Pretty? (4, Insightful)

geekboy642 (799087) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535747)

Your entire post would make sense if only one thing were true. If this PC weren't MORE expensive than the closest Mac counterpart, you could excuse poor build quality, under-powered processor, and heftiness as merely being good value for dollar. But that's not true. It's MORE EXPENSIVE than the Air. A slim laptop that's more pricey than the already overpriced status symbol that is the Macbook Air, but provides significantly less value? Somebody failed, and failed hard.

Re:Which is it? Cheap, Fast, or Pretty? (1)

mlts (1038732) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536213)

The Adamo is coming into a hard market segment:

If people want an ultralight laptop, like people pointed out, they can grab a Macbook Air. IIRC, you can just zero out the Air's disk and install Vista without needing Boot Camp if one felt like it. Or, one can keep OS X and use Boot Camp to make Windows XP work (which would be lighter on system resources).

If people wanted a Windows machine (where it is expressly noted that the machine is not a Mac) for professional use, Thinkpads are the black limousine of the laptop world. People can purchase a Thinkpad X Series.

This is nothing against Dell. Dell's competition just has better offerings than what it has in this market segment. If I were buying business desktop PCs, regular laptops, or servers, I'd strongly consider Dell. However, for a premium ultralight, the competition is ahead here.

Re:Which is it? Cheap, Fast, or Pretty? (2, Insightful)

Auroch (1403671) | more than 5 years ago | (#27537203)

They're competing in a market filled with people BUYING MACBOOK AIRs. They don't need to be intelligent. They just need to look expensive.

Power? How about battery... (1)

massysett (910130) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535677)

Lots of these reviews for portables talk about power. I couldn't care less about power. I have a three-year-old Pentium M with 512 MB of RAM (shared with the graphics!) that was OVER-powered. All I used was the browser, some console apps, and occasionally a media player. I replaced the laptop, but only because the hinges were shot. I didn't even use half of the memory on the thing.

No, for me battery life is more important than power. "The biggest mistake Dell made with this system, by far, was the inclusion of Intel's GMA X4500HD GPU." Then there is a graph of FPS. I'll take battery life over FPS. (Unfortunately it looks like this Dell is good at neither of those.)

Re:Power? How about battery... (1)

Lord Ender (156273) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535971)

Power matters. The intel atom chokes when simply browsing some ajax-enabled web pages in firefox, while more powerful CPUs don't blink.

Re:Power? How about battery... (1)

bami (1376931) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536549)

Power matters. The intel atom chokes when simply browsing some ajax-enabled web pages in firefox, while more powerful CPUs don't blink.

I'd like to know which atom you are using.

The Atom N270 in my EEE 901 has no problem at all with heavy AJAX sites, like the whole google 'suite' (gmail, maps, calendar, igoogle?). The only times that thing chokes is on heavy flash games, or java applets. Then again, I haven't seen a java applet yet that doesn't make a browser choke, be it a desktop or mobile core2duo/quad, the atom or any other random piece of hardware.

Now what would be interesting if they made such a ultraflat laptop with the 'new' dualcore atom, along with nvidia's ion graphics. Chuck in a reasonably sized battery and that thing would give power comparable to a low-end core 2 duo.

Dell really should have called it Adama (5, Funny)

SkinnyKid63 (1104787) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535833)

They could give it a gruff exterior, but it would kick the ass of any other computer that got in its way, Apple or Cylon.

Who is the target market for this product? (1)

Yhippa (443967) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535837)

I'm still trying to figure that out. It does not exceed the specs for the MBA especially in price [businessinsider.com] which is what Microsoft's new ad campaign is all about.

I guess if you need a MBA form-factor that runs Windows this is your thing. I'd much prefer to run Windows virtually in the MBA though.

Re:Who is the target market for this product? (1)

jrothwell97 (968062) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535983)

Or run it natively, which it is quite capable of doing (it is x86/64 compatible, of course.)

My 2 year old X61 Thinkpad is lighter, faster, (2, Interesting)

Logic Worshipper (1518487) | more than 5 years ago | (#27535911)

and cheaper. 1.2Ghz dual core processor? Wtf? My 2 year old 3lb thinkpad has a 1.8Ghz dual core processor, and I bought it new for half what an Adamo costs 2 years ago. If an Adamo was a cheaper alternative to a thinkpad I could understand, but it's more expensive too! Why would anyone in their right mind buy a Adamo instead of thinkpad?

Re:My 2 year old X61 Thinkpad is lighter, faster, (2, Informative)

beelsebob (529313) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536107)

Did you miss the bit where you could fit two adamos/airs inside your think pad. The think pad is a thick 14" laptop, these are two *ultra* thin, very light 13" laptops. Where by ultra thin, we mean average 0.46" thick, compared to your thinkpad's average 1.175". And by light, we mean 3lb, not your thinkpad's 5.1lb.

Re:My 2 year old X61 Thinkpad is lighter, faster, (1)

PFAK (524350) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536271)

I hate to break it to you: The ThinkPad X61 is only ~3.11lbs.

Re:My 2 year old X61 Thinkpad is lighter, faster, (2, Interesting)

beelsebob (529313) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536293)

Oh fail, I read T61, but then, you could fit *three* MacBook airs inside the thicknss of the X61.

Re:My 2 year old X61 Thinkpad is lighter, faster, (1)

PFAK (524350) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536431)

Yes, but I think you have to take Price vs. Reward: The X61 is a very attractive offering if you look at the price point of it.

Re:My 2 year old X61 Thinkpad is lighter, faster, (1)

mako1138 (837520) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536315)

Isn't the X61 12", and more like 4 pounds? You're quite right about the thickness though.

Re:My 2 year old X61 Thinkpad is lighter, faster, (1)

mgblst (80109) | more than 5 years ago | (#27538257)

Yeah, considering there was an x61t deal a few weeks ago for $650, yeah, it is a cheaper deal.

just... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27535997)

buy a thinkpad

See, what Dell have created here (1)

jrothwell97 (968062) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536023)

Dell have created, with the Adamo, what is effectively a pocket calculator for the price you're getting. Christ, I've seen machines on sale for less than £400 (around $800 at the time) which are more powerful than this thing.

In no way is it the most beautiful machine Dell's ever made. The black (sorry, Onyx) colour isn't too bad, but both types have a Quasimodo hunch-back, which seems to serve no purpose other than to store the bits they couldn't fit in to the rest of the machine because they were desperate to make it thinner than the MBA. It's also nowhere near as nice as the Studio Hybrids. Heck, the Inspirons are prettier than the white/pearl Adamo.

Resolution? (1)

salimma (115327) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536039)

Sorry, but I'm not paying twice what I spent on a (quite nice) Inspiron only to get a laptop with less vertical pixels.

Why not 1440x800? That's almost the same aspect ratio. Or 1366x800.

It *does* look rather gorgeous, though.

Good looks? really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27536623)

I don't understand why everybody things this thing looks so good. It looks so awkward like the components don't fit together properly and it has no style. It's absolutely hideous.

Re:Good looks? really? (1)

SeanBlader (1354199) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536709)

And if you go to Germany there are people there who think Kate Moss is hideous too. So obviously there are people who know what looks good and there are people that don't.

Re:Good looks? really? (1)

Chrono11901 (901948) | more than 5 years ago | (#27537151)

And there are people who aren't ignorant and understand that taste is subjective.

Air Battery Life? (1)

SeanBlader (1354199) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536699)

So since the processor and graphics are slower than the Air, shouldn't the battery life on the Adamo be better? What's the Air rated at for battery life, and then how does it actually do?

So basically (1)

freedan (1382597) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536757)

it's a $2000 netbook?

Anyone Else Bothered ... (2, Insightful)

saltydog56 (1135213) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536763)

Is anyone else bothered by the fact that the slot for the ATT SIM Card (a more elegant solution than USB device by God!) kind of tilts the playing field in the direction of one vendor? If I were to pay that much for a laptop I would want everything about it to be "general purpose" to the largest extent possible.

Re:Anyone Else Bothered ... (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | more than 5 years ago | (#27537573)

Depends on if it's a locked configuration. The ATT SIM is the standard GSM (presuming it operates on all int'l frequencies). You can drop in a SIM from just about anywhere in the world. Since this is a US product, and AT&T probably helped out with the advert budget, it's hyped as such. Plus, in the US, AT&T is one of the most ubiquitous providers.

Off topic: why GHz? (4, Insightful)

jw3 (99683) | more than 5 years ago | (#27536833)

This is a genuine question, not a troll. I'm really interested in the answer.

What is the meaning of comparing the GHz as a major factor in evaluation of a laptop? I'm a bioinformatician. I do most of my work on an X40 Thinkpad. For small jobs, this is more than sufficient. For major calculations, one or two cores will not suffice, no matter what the GHz.

From my experience, for most of the tasks, a difference of even 10% in the speed is not an issue, and anyway, there are dozens of other factors that influence both, the real computing speed and the reactivity of the interface. To me, things like memory, disk access, networking, cacheing, usage pattern and last but not least, what software solution you have picked for your task seem to be more influencial on the overall perfomance than a difference between 1.6 or 1.86 GHz. Yet in most comparisons (e.g. several posts here on Slashdot), when talking of a laptop, first two things to mention are the price tag and the GHz.

Question: am I missing something? What is so important about the GHz of the processor to use it as a proxy for "performance"? Is it just historical, or maybe because it is easy to quantify, like in the case of megapixels in digital cameras (which are nowadays mostly meaningless, but easy to compare)?

j.

Re:Off topic: why GHz? (1)

feepness (543479) | more than 5 years ago | (#27538397)

Question: am I missing something? What is so important about the GHz of the processor to use it as a proxy for "performance"? Is it just historical, or maybe because it is easy to quantify, like in the case of megapixels in digital cameras (which are nowadays mostly meaningless, but easy to compare)?

Two things.

1) It's all about the epeen. If you've dropped $2K you want to know you've got the best.

2) It's how long it will last you. That 1.4Ghz processor is going to feel dated that much sooner.

That's it. It's really not much different than driving a car with 300hp vs 350hp. Are you going to get from one end of town to the other any faster, or even faster than 135hp Civic? Most likely not.

Real shame. (1)

feepness (543479) | more than 5 years ago | (#27537463)

I LOVE my Dell Mini 9. $220 shipped, $20 upgrade to 2GB memory. Runs Ubuntu like a champ.

Don't let this overpriced Edsel turn you off to their entire line.

Gizmodo should be named AppleModo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27538231)

Gizmodo is a useless site. They are 100% apple fanboys. Almost every post is apple centric. Anything anyone comes out they claim it an apple copy. I never believe them. I have seen so much in the past and stopped following it now. I have high regards for Slashdot and a site like this quality should never refer to a site like quality less cheap Gizmodo. Please moderator do not let the value of Slashdot go down by allowing posts like these with no quality or from sites that lack quality.

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