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Visualizing Data Inside the 30-ft Allosphere

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the bah-I've-seen-bigger dept.

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TEDChris writes "The Allosphere, being created at UC Santa Barbara, is the most ambitious attempt yet at creating powerful 3d visualizations of raw scientific data, such as the structure of a crystal, or how quantum effects take place. Researchers watch from a bridge inside the 30-foot sphere, looking at data projected 360 degrees around them and listening to 3D sound. The first major public demo of the facility has just been posted at TED.com. Optimists would argue that many of the greatest scientific breakthroughs happened through a new visual way of imagining data. Penicillin and relativity come to mind. So this is either a killer new research vehicle, an incredible toy, or just an insanely expensive art project."

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360 or 420? (1)

bugi (8479) | more than 5 years ago | (#27590837)

Just 360 degrees? Why not 420?

Re:360 or 420? (1, Funny)

Zibben (1451167) | more than 5 years ago | (#27590871)

Because they're afraid you may try to eat the data from a case of the munchies.

Re:360 or 420? (1)

wsanders (114993) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591113)

The volume controls go up to 11.

The TED conferees pay big bucks, you don't want them to think they are just rocking out to the same Moody Blues laser show they've been seeing since 1975.

Re:360 or 420? (2, Funny)

rubycodez (864176) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591431)

I would have expected just over a dozen and a half steradians myself.

Re:360 or 420? (1)

Jake Griffin (1153451) | more than 5 years ago | (#27592095)

Steradians... *goes to Wikipedia*... Ah, that's pretty interesting. Yes, I suppose ~12.5 (4pi) steradians would do it.

Re:360 or 420? (2, Informative)

geekgirlandrea (1148779) | more than 5 years ago | (#27592279)

Well, clearly, they meant 4*pi steradians anyway.

What is a USC Santa Barbara? (4, Informative)

isBandGeek() (1369017) | more than 5 years ago | (#27590859)

I've heard of a UC Santa Barbara [ucsb.edu] and a USC [usc.edu] , but I've never heard of a USC Santa Barbara.

Re:What is a USC Santa Barbara? (1, Funny)

macraig (621737) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591309)

Didn't you get the memo? All colleges in California are now just adjunct campuses of USC, by order of the Governator himself. He said he'd be back if it wasn't done.

Re:What is a USC Santa Barbara? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27591329)

Haha, yea this one is definitely at UC Santa Barbara, walked through it one time, pretty impressive. Still in need of a unique Human Interface Device though.

Re:What is a USC Santa Barbara? (1)

section321a (848754) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591355)

Maybes its the University of South Carolina at Santa Barbara? Go cocks! (Oh heavens, I can't believe I actually said that...)

Re:What is a USC Santa Barbara? (1)

MalleusEBHC (597600) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591367)

Just wait until all the Gauchos find out they're going to have to live in Watts instead of Isla Vista.

Re:What is a USC Santa Barbara? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27592329)

Can't be a whole lot worse than Isla Vista.

Re:What is a USC Santa Barbara? (1)

TEDChris (1476217) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591741)

Ooops. Guess I can type faster than think. Too much data ogling. heh.

Re:What is a USC Santa Barbara? (1)

AlexBirch (1137019) | more than 5 years ago | (#27592235)

I think it's University South Carolina at Santa Barbara. It was started during the Civil War.

Find people with powers? (5, Funny)

Again (1351325) | more than 5 years ago | (#27590869)

What I want to know is if it can find people with powers. If it can, then I need to build myself an awful looking hat.

Re:Find people with powers? (2, Funny)

Captain Splendid (673276) | more than 5 years ago | (#27590901)

an awful looking hat.

You mean helmet. Heh. I just said 'helmet'.

Re:Find people with powers? (2, Funny)

NeoSkandranon (515696) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591039)

build myself an awful looking hat.

Just steal a fedora from a kid trying to look stylish at the mall, much faster than building one yourself.

Re:Find people with powers? (2, Funny)

NeverVotedBush (1041088) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591457)

I just download the ISO... ;-)

Re:Find people with powers? (1)

tttonyyy (726776) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591145)

I want to know if I can borrow it to play Half-Life 2: EP3 when it comes out. Now that would be awesome. :)

Re:Find people with powers? (1)

troll8901 (1397145) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591503)

Does this Half-Life 2: EP3 come with ... um ... downloadable graphics for one of the characters?

To, um, enjoy the higher resolution, of course!

Re:Find people with powers? (1)

troll8901 (1397145) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591463)

You so deserve +5 Funny for this. It took me a while to realize the reference.

Re:Find people with powers? (2, Funny)

hannson (1369413) | more than 5 years ago | (#27592609)

Well, everybody here's thinking it but I'm saying it:

Lets invest in the porn industry!!

Allosphere? Bah! (2, Funny)

Monkey_Genius (669908) | more than 5 years ago | (#27590889)

What they need is the Infosphere [theinfosphere.org] !

I'm no scientist... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27590915)

But this sounds like a giant, expensive toy.

Re:I'm no scientist... (1)

wealthychef (584778) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591229)

I am a scientist, and I agree.

Re:I'm no scientist... (1)

religious freak (1005821) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591607)

Agreed.

I just saw the vid and I was not impressed. I don't see how this offers you anything other than what essentially amounts to a giant monitor, unless you go through pains to condition your data to the Allosphere specifically... and I've got to imagine conditioning data at every iteration and every step of your analysis for one particular view inside an Allosphere is not worth it. The data almost certainly doesn't just know how to present itself on a 360 degree plane (I'm not a mathematician, but I think this would still be considered to be a 2D plane?) which would take advantage of the viewpoint characteristics the Allosphere could offer.

It's got a pretty cool name though.

Re:I'm no scientist... (1)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 5 years ago | (#27592631)

Yep. This sphere brings no new capabilities, SGI used to build stuff like that back in the '90s.

Why expensive? (1)

Lorens (597774) | more than 5 years ago | (#27590921)

Just borrow the set from X-Men...

IMAX? (3, Insightful)

otomotopeia (1533291) | more than 5 years ago | (#27590935)

Seems like it's nothing more than 2 IMAX theaters tied together?

Re:IMAX? (1)

smartbei (1112351) | more than 5 years ago | (#27592285)

Not IMAX - OMNIMAX or IMAX Dome.
See IMAX Dome [wikipedia.org] .

Amazing(not) (4, Insightful)

Zerth (26112) | more than 5 years ago | (#27590937)

So it is just two CAVEs stuck together? Yup, real advanced technology there.

I hope nobody tells them about head-mounted displays.

Re:Amazing(not) (3, Interesting)

MadnessASAP (1052274) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591803)

That's what I was thinking. They could just buy some very high density LCD's and pay one of the engineerign students to spend a few weeks rigging them up with a motion detector and headphones? Uses alot less space, power and you get true stereoscopic vision. You would also get many different viewpoints for more then one perspective on the same dataset. In short it looks impressive at first but becomes a colossal waste of when you really think about it.

Re:Amazing(not) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27591867)

You need eye tracking too for head mounted, and that's still a pain to sort out.

Re:Amazing(not) (1)

davolfman (1245316) | more than 5 years ago | (#27593545)

University of Utah has been doing haptics like that for a long time.

Re:Amazing(not) (1)

mikael (484) | more than 5 years ago | (#27592179)

The innovation isn't in the projection system - it is the fact that they are visualizing large amounts of data interactively in real-time, particularly volume rendering. Everything from the Schrodinger equations defining the probabilistic orbits of electrons to functional MRI directly from the scanner in real-time. It is easy to play a pre-recorded movie of a fMRI scan on a number of large monitors, but they want to visualize more complex information such as what effect the increased demand on blood flow has on the turbulence of blood circulation, or allow surgeons to visualize the best way to thread a catheter through an artery to treat an aneurysm.

Re:Amazing(not) (2, Funny)

Dachannien (617929) | more than 5 years ago | (#27592947)

Yeah, but head-mounted displays were Dominion technology. They were the bad guys. That's probably why the UCSB folks went with the astrometrics lab from Voyager (only better).

Re:Amazing(not) (1)

sverdrup (1532519) | more than 5 years ago | (#27593083)

Doesn't anyone else remember going on this ride at Disneyworld?

Mac vs. PC (5, Funny)

inertia@yahoo.com (156602) | more than 5 years ago | (#27590939)

Mac: Hi, I'm a Mac.

PC: And ... I'm ... a ... PC.

Mac: Wow, PC. You're really slow today.

PC: Yes ... I'm ... running ... AlloSphere ... research ... for ... UCSB ... ... today.

Mac: What exactly is the AlloSphere useful for?

PC: Scientifically, ... it ... is ... an ... instrument ... for ... gaining ... insight ... and ... developing ... bodily ... intuition ... about ... environments ... into ... which ... the ... body ... cannot ... venture: ... abstract, ... higher- ... -dimensional ... information ... spaces, ... the ... worlds ... of ... the ... very ... small ... or ... very ... large, ... and ... the ... realms ... of ... the ... very ... fast ... or ... very ... slow, ... in ... fields ... ranging ... from ... nanotechnology ... to ... theoretical ... physics, ... from ... proteomics ... to ... cosmology, ... from ... neurophysiology ... to ... the ... spaces ... of ... consciousness, ... and ... from ... new ... materials ... to ... new ... media.

Mac: Wow, that ... that sounds pretty amazing.

PC: It ... is.

Mac: Anything else?

PC: 42.

Mac: What does that even mean?

PC: I ... have ... no ... idea.

Re:Mac vs. PC (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27591925)

Why is PC running Shatner OS?

This will clearly revolutionize the visualization (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27590951)

...of 30-foot soap bubbles.

Penicillin and relativity come to mind? (4, Insightful)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 5 years ago | (#27590991)

Really? From what I recall, penicillin was discovered by noticing that mould contaminating a bacteria sample caused the bacteria to die, and relativity came straight out of the mathematics (you can derive special relativity in about one sheet of A4 - general relativity is much harder). Is there some story that everyone except me knows about?

Re:Penicillin and relativity come to mind? (2, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591015)

Of course there is no such story. Don't be silly. In fact, forget the whole thing...

Re:Penicillin and relativity come to mind? (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591207)

From what I recall, penicillin was discovered by noticing that mould contaminating a bacteria sample caused the bacteria to die,

And how do you think Flemming determined that the bacteria were dying? With a revolutionary new imaging system of course: his eyes.

Re:Penicillin and relativity come to mind? (2, Interesting)

khellendros1984 (792761) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591323)

Einstein used to construct mental images, which often became the inspiration for his mathematical theories. For instance, a train traveling at c with a headlamp on the front...and somehow, the light from that is moving at c away from the train. From an external perspective, both the train and light beam are moving at c. Obviously, there's time dilation involved....at least, I was always told that he came up with that thought experiment.

Re:Penicillin and relativity come to mind? (1)

Timmmm (636430) | more than 5 years ago | (#27592753)

I'm still not seeing how thought experiments (an imaginary experiment) and data visualisation (finding ways to display complex datasets) are related.

Re:Penicillin and relativity come to mind? (4, Interesting)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591341)

Before Einstein started scribbling stuff down on paper, he performed "thought experiments" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gedanken_experiment [wikipedia.org] , which are like a form of visualization. For instance, while he was at the Swiss patent office in Bern, he started to try imaging what the world outside would look like, if the street tram he was riding in, was traveling at the speed of light. He imagined that if traveling away from a clock, the hand would never move from his perspective.

No cats were injured in Einstein's experiments.

I'll have to pass on the penicillin, although I regularly "visualize" a form of it in my breadbox every week.

Re:Penicillin and relativity come to mind? (1)

Timmmm (636430) | more than 5 years ago | (#27592721)

Thought experiments seem pretty different to data visualisation to me. In fact, how are they remotely related?

It will definitely be a cash cow . . . (2, Interesting)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591033)

So this is either a killer new research vehicle, an incredible toy, or just an insanely expensive art project.

It's entertainment! It sounds like a great source of revenue to me. Charge admission! Team up with The Discovery Channel and whip up some fascinating images with insightful commentary! Scientists love showing off their research to awed folks who can't really comprehend it.

I want one! I can't wait for the Slashdot article that describes how to make a cheap, open source version of this!

Re:It will definitely be a cash cow . . . (2, Interesting)

Zerth (26112) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591347)

2 hemispheres made of rear-projector material, 2 projectors, 2 webcams, computer with dual video cards or one card with 2 ports.

Project a grid onto each hemisphere, use the webcams to distort the grid until it projects evenly across each hemisphere as viewed from inside(you'll lose some resolution at the edges).

Play quake until you vomit.

Re:It will definitely be a cash cow . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27593163)

playquake until you vomit.

Could you imagine the view of Vi(m) on that thing?

Programming at it's absolute finest!

Re:It will definitely be a cash cow . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27591991)

here they are making VR bigger... didn't slashdot just have an article about people trying to make MRI's smaller... who would want to stand in a dome when they can sit with a baseball hat on that does the same thing?

Re:It will definitely be a cash cow . . . (1)

mikael (484) | more than 5 years ago | (#27592005)

Ever heard of Imax theaters? [teamxbox.com]

Is immersion even a good idea? (0)

Ghostworks (991012) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591065)

If 3D visualization is that helpful, is being immersed within the scene really that good of an idea? I'd hate to think that thousands of dollars would be spent on every session in this thing, only to discover that the team had their backs towards the "insightful" portion of the graphics. Is there any reason this couldn't be done with a desktop unit the size of a beach ball and a pair of headphones? For that matter, is there any compelling reason that this couldn't be done better with a couple of flat screens and surround sound?

Re:Is immersion even a good idea? (1)

xpatch (1188047) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591157)

Trying to think outside the box while stuck in box in a sphere....

Re:Is immersion even a good idea? (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591317)

If 3D visualization is that helpful, is being immersed within the scene really that good of an idea?

Assuming they can avoid being goatse trolled, yes. Otherwise the thing will be burned down quickly.

A lot of 3d data doesn't really work well on flatscreens. I take confocal microscope images, there are plenty of tricks to convey the 3d, like causing my movies to wobble, but when there's a lot of noise it's tough to keep track of it. Maybe this would help. Of course, the images don't look really good when I blow them up to full monitor, at 30 feet they would become just downright ugly. I'm sure other applications though really are hurting and resolution would be just fine.

Re:Is immersion even a good idea? (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591863)

Well, for one thing, it would be hard to get twenty people into a sphere the size of a beach ball.

Re:Is immersion even a good idea? (1)

mikael (484) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591935)

Simple, they always have two researchers standing back to back, so that all 360 degrees are covered. That way, there's never any chance of anything sneaking up behind them and stealing their funding.

Is it 120Hz? (0, Offtopic)

xpatch (1188047) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591071)

Does it do 120Hz for some 3d action ^.^

famous planetarium example (2, Interesting)

Tiro (19535) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591083)

I recently visited the Morrison Planetarium at the California Academy of Sciences. It's a new facility with impressive technology (and cost).

However the presentation was all animation, moral harangues, and celebrity voiceover, with little content and no interesting astrophysics science. The whole concept seemed like a watered-down ripoff of the powers of ten video [powersof10.com] I saw in middle school. Remember that? I would much rather have watched that again.

No imagination... (3, Funny)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591087)

So this is either a killer new research vehicle, an incredible toy, or just an insanely expensive art project.

All three, you got the superego, the id and the ego all in one machine.

Just imagine... (1)

natophonic (103088) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591089)

... a LAN party with a cluster of these!

What is it for... owls? (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591149)

Human beings only have about a 120 degree maximum field of view, so 360 degrees isn't that useful. It is easier to rotate the image into your field of view than to turn your head 360 degrees to see it all, IMHO.

Re:What is it for... owls? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27591707)

Human beings only have about a 120 degree maximum field of view, so 360 degrees isn't that useful. It is easier to rotate the image into your field of view than to turn your head 360 degrees to see it all, IMHO.

You're assuming there's just one lonely human being. Try giving him a friend and your optimization falls apart quickly.

Re:What is it for... owls? (2, Insightful)

camperdave (969942) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591751)

No, it is far easier to turn your head than to calculate and rotate an image, especially if you have more than one person that you're displaying for.

Re:What is it for... owls? (3, Interesting)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591817)

Rotating the image into your field of view would destroy some of the spatial awareness of the data.

One of the points is for spatial awareness to more easily come into play when interpreting data.

Pretend you are a drug researcher, and you're working on developing analogues of naturally-occuring protein substrates. If you have a 360 model of the receptor site of the protein, being able to visualize the space your substrate fits into could help you identify possible analogues.

For an oversimplified example, look at epinephrine, which is a naturally occuring substance in the body that binds with adrenergic receptors and causes a response. Adding a methyl group in the right spot gives you a different compound that binds with adrenergic receptors more than epinephrine, but causes no response. Thus we have a compound that can be used as a drug to prevent that response. Or, maybe we can build a drug that increases the response.

Epinephrine drugs are well-understood... but there are many possible drugs that could be developed if we had better modeling and understanding of protein receptor sites. An encompassing 360 view of a receptor site could result in a breakthrough.

There are a ton of other ways this could be useful, that's just one example.

How good is it for porn? (1)

tjstork (137384) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591153)

So, what kind of porn can you get on this thing?

Cerebro (-1, Redundant)

Hugonz (20064) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591239)

'nuff said.

Really Cool, But... (3, Interesting)

gpronger (1142181) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591251)

My guess is that it will be seen as an impressive technological feat, with marginal real applicability.

In the talk on "TED" JoAnn Kuchera-Morin, trumps the ability to fly into the brain, see the tissue as landscape and hear the blood density as sound. It is very unclear the advantage of the projection to the scale they've accomplished (other than to say we've done it).

They've pulled together impressive super-computer technology, but if it was on a larger PC screen versus a "walk-in" version, is there a real gain?

As a scientist (2, Interesting)

Hoplite3 (671379) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591293)

It sounds like a cool toy, but choosing the correct way to visualize data is really hard. Generally, picking which quantities to plot against each other corresponds to taking a lower dimensional slice of a data set. Picking the right slice isn't just difficult, it's a really important result of the research.

There have been lots of advances in trying to automatically determine these sorts of reductions (the Netflix recommendation contest brought a lot of this to public attention), but for many problems, the "interesting" lower-dimensional space that's plotted corresponds to some important symmetry of the data.

I guess what I'm saying is that in science (like in art) limitations sometimes help guide useful thinking. Just seeing "everything" in 3D 36 degrees with more dimensions represented as sound doesn't necessarily help that.

i just got off the toilet (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27591297)

i shit out an obama.

plop!

Solution Looking for a Problem (2, Insightful)

Siberwulf (921893) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591299)

Honestly, it seems rather useless (in these examples). I won't knock music in general, but does a computer singing a song really going to be helpful in diagnosing something? Just because you have more information, doesn't mean you have any higher level of useful information.

I will give the presenter props though. That was like a Science Word Bingo caller going for blackout.

Sound is the differentiator (1)

HalWasRight (857007) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591331)

I see the 3d sound capability as a differentiator vs merely a spherical screen. Dr Kuchera-Morin [ucsb.edu] is a musician after all.

Epcot Center... (1)

Rick Richardson (87058) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591333)

Epcot Center has one of these...

oblig. (0, Offtopic)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591357)

I for one welcome our holodeck overlords.

A new pr0n theatre (1)

flyingfsck (986395) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591363)

It would be totally useless, but imagine the in depth visuals one could get with that.

Re:A new pr0n theatre (1)

couchslug (175151) | more than 5 years ago | (#27592445)

"It would be totally useless, but imagine the in depth visuals one could get with that."

At last, a way to appreciate my Roseanne Barr endoscope porn collection in its full glory!

can you say 'CAVE'? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27591449)

This looks very much like an oversized CAVE system to be honest. At one of my former employers we had one as well for similar visualizations. The problem was convincing customers that it's actually a very useful tool for research. Most people, even scientists, don't see the possibilities and see it as a gimmick. They often ask if it plays Quake and such *sigh*

But yeah, I really hope this thing gets used for some good research and doesn't go the same way as other CAVE-like systems, ending up as a PR tool

Re:can you say 'CAVE'? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27591761)

My company was on the design team for the AlloSphere. After listening to the ideas they wanted to express in this "venue" we took our planetarium experience and turned it on it's side. (pause for groans) To help visualize/demonstrate the idea, we found an old globe lying around, cut it in half and glued an extra long scale rule in the middle as the audience platform. While I can't speak to how they are using it today, at the time we conceived it it was pretty radical. We looked at all kinds of immerse technology, including CAVEs, small planetarium domes and plain old curved simulation screens and there was nothing you could get 20 or so researchers in at the same time and have everyone in the sweet spot. One really has to look at it from the starting point of a planetarium, not Starry Night on a flat screen. I have not been in the thing since it's been commissioned but I look forward to hearing what the multichannel sound system does.

Geological research (1)

TheHawke (237817) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591539)

The USGS and the oilfield companies could use this to their advantage, predicting major events, to computing more precise strike points for drilling, reducing the chance of having a "dry hole".

visualization? (1)

speedtux (1307149) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591565)

Yeah, penicillin required looking at a petri dish, but I'm not sure that counts as "visualization".

Einstein apparently was a visual thinker, but the emphasis there is on "thinking", not plotting, graphing, or other artifacts; visual thinking in mathematics is very different from 2D or 3D data visualizations.

Cerebro lives! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27591581)

Early reports indicate that the facility is also useful for tracking down mutants.

How many fictional references can you name? (1)

Tsar (536185) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591637)

Offhand, I thought of (in the following order):

Meanwhile, in the non-fictional realm, the VR Lab at the University of Tsukuba (Japan) has been working for years on "Ensphered Vision" [tsukuba.ac.jp] , complete with sound.

Visualize THIS Lamers: +1, Incendiary (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27591665)

Bush Indictment [youtube.com] .

If they can send former Nazi soldiers to Germany, they can
do it for Bushler et al.

Yours In Socialism,
K. Trout

Visualizing new tech on old tech? (1)

kiehlster (844523) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591689)

So when do scientists plan on researching visualization hardware that is forward compatible so that we can observe 1:1 preview samples of the next generation of hardware. The article presented yet another video of an amazing visualization device that I cannot comprehend on my tiny computer display or my HD television set. At least on PBS they try to explain the future with diagrams depicting how it is suppose to work.

Awww... (1)

Kabuthunk (972557) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591753)

The first thing I read when I skimmed the headline was "Visualizing Data Inside the 30-ft Allosaur".

I can't be the only one who thinks it would be cool to somehow store data inside dinosaurs.

Re:Awww... (1)

Idarubicin (579475) | more than 5 years ago | (#27593373)

For some reason, a quote (often attributed to Groucho Marx) comes to mind:

Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

I'm presuming that Marx's comment was a prescient perspective on the future of in-animal data storage and presentation.

Death Star (1)

AlexBirch (1137019) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591799)

OMG it's the blueprints to the deathstar. We need to analyze these for potential weaknesses.

Before you mod me off topic, please watch the video intro.

The real question... (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591923)

The real question: Would this "flying" through the landscape of data be called Allosoaring?

tommy boy common sense (0, Offtopic)

SethJohnson (112166) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591937)

Tommy: Hey, I'll tell you what. You can get a good look at a butcher's ass by sticking your head up there. But, wouldn't you rather to take his word for it?
Mr. Brady, Customer: [confused] What? I'm failing to make the connection here.
Tommy: No, I mean is, you can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a butcher's ass... No, wait. It's gotta be your bull.
Richard: [embarrassed] Wow.

Later in the movie:
[saying it correctly]
Tommy: I can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking my head up a bull's ass, but I'd rather take a butcher's word for it.

Seth

WOOT! (1)

Drone69 (1517261) | more than 5 years ago | (#27591975)

One step closer to the Holodeck!

P0RN (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27592321)

Will there be p0rn and popcorn?

Something's Familiar Here (1)

Psion (2244) | more than 5 years ago | (#27592507)

A multi-story, round room with a bridge in the center used to display 3-dimensional scientific data? Where have I seen this concept before? [trekcore.com]

multi-dimensional dynamically-varied quantum fluff (1)

kharchenko (303729) | more than 5 years ago | (#27592543)

I tried to watch the presentation but had to stop because of the nauseating stream of peseudo-technical nonsense that this woman is spewing.
She's the "inventor of the Allosphere" - the "dynamically varying digital microscope" where the "researchers interact with data by injecting bacterial code" and defy quantum mechanics by showing "where the electron is at any given point in time and space".
Why not just describe it for what it is - a spherical projection screen for visualizing scientific models.

Officially (1)

credd144az (1078167) | more than 5 years ago | (#27592615)

The coolest computer monitor in the world.

Hmmm, just like... (2, Insightful)

meerling (1487879) | more than 5 years ago | (#27592971)

Not exactly a new concept, just new in that somebody actually built one.
This kind of thing has been in Sci-fi for ages, everything from Star Trek to X-Men.

I guess headphones and (1)

gatkinso (15975) | more than 5 years ago | (#27593051)

some 3d glasses are not cool enough for these folks.

Crystals? (1)

SpitfireSMS (1388089) | more than 5 years ago | (#27593269)

Makes me think of black mesa..
We MUST stop this

Very little room for ART in Science (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27593333)

WTF? Just exactly how are artist's renderings of scientific data useful (besides injecting preconceived notions)?

I More Step Towards Something REALLY COOL!!!!! (1)

IHC Navistar (967161) | more than 5 years ago | (#27593381)

Now *THIS* sounds cool!

What would make the whole setup complete would be to develop a camera that can take spherical images. They can buy an unmanned drone ( or better yet, build their own) and take flying spherical video!

I would definitely line up to pay $$$ for a 10 minute "flight" over the Midwest or Sierra Nevada.

Progress visualizing "spooky" effects of physics (1)

isd.bz (1260658) | more than 5 years ago | (#27593505)

There has been some interesting progress in visualizing some of the interesting (or spooky) quantum mechanical effects. http://visualphysics.org [visualphysics.org] The software which generates it is available for free. It uses mathematics based in Quaternions [wikipedia.org] to visualize the mathematics behind spacetime, standard model groups,etc.
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