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Is Your Mood a Result of Where You Live?

samzenpus posted about 5 years ago | from the home-is-where-the-misery-is dept.

Medicine 364

Ed writes "Apparently, the Centers for Disease Control released a study indicating that geography can have a significant impact on mood. You may not be surprised to learn that Kentucky is more depressing than Hawaii. However, ranking up there with Hawaii are Minnesota, the Dakotas and Wisconsin. Frustratingly, they have not yet published the study on the web, so it is left as an exercise for the reader to find the original study and post a link for the rest of us."

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Hmmm ... (4, Funny)

Xaemyl (88001) | about 5 years ago | (#27592717)

Live in a crappy neighborhood makes for crappy moods? Lemme be the first to tell the CDC: DUUUH!

Re:Hmmm ... (5, Funny)

aliquis (678370) | about 5 years ago | (#27592801)

Since crappy neighborhood probably mean you are there for a reason, such as unemployed / low income and such, yes.

Personally I live in Sweden and the lack of light and low d-vitamine levels probably don't help much either.

That and virgin at 30.

Re:Hmmm ... (4, Funny)

Nutria (679911) | about 5 years ago | (#27593349)

Personally I live in Sweden and ... virgin at 30.

But Anheuser-Busch says that all Swedish babes are hot and will jump in bed with you if you drink Bud-wei-ser?

Re:Hmmm ... (1)

aliquis (678370) | about 5 years ago | (#27593463)

Nah, they must have got that wrong, you let them drink beer, and then they may have sex with you.

Re:Hmmm ... (-1, Troll)

aliquis (678370) | about 5 years ago | (#27593569)

Btw, on my way home from the gym I saw some kind of ass, wasn't looking too much, just out from the side of my eye while bicycling past it not to draw attention.

Then it shouted, or well, not the ass, but the owner of it, a around 20 girl.

Turned out she was going to some place which wasn't near to her current location, so she figured the cab must had fooled her..

She was really drunk trying to make a phone call and walking around in circles, so I figured she had probably walked for quite some time while drunk but in the incorrect direction. Anyway, turned out her battery was low so she asked me for a ride, which the bicycle wasn't equipped for, anyway she tried the handlebar but it didn't worked very good.

So I let her borrow my phone to call the cab, but I think she tried to call somewhat at the location she was trying to reach at first. Anyway, after a couple of tries and some help dialing the numbers and making the call she came to the cab company and then she where trying to find out her current location so they could pick her up.

Anyway, short after that I left, but I was thinking that maybe, just maybe, I should had asked her if she could had blown me in return of the favor, but I didn't, mannered or stupid as I am.

Riding the bike on my way home all I could think of was "should I turn around and ask?", but well, didn't, and now I keep on thinking about it.

It's not like I would rape her, force her or expect it, and I wouldn't had asked for it before making the call as a "fee", but well, she was really really drunk (dropped my phone on the ground 2-3 times) and well, it wouldn't had hurt her, or me, maybe she would even had felt some comfort having something to suck on and also feel better of getting something in her stomach.

Was I just stupid, would it had worked or shouldn't I think about it since it would had been evil against her?

Stupid to not take your chances I assume .. I guess it would had been the normal male thing to do ..

Who knows, eventually she wouldn't had been capable to remember it anyway, she couldn't press the correct numbers or say the correct ones and while trying to find the building number we was at I walked away one way and it turned out she walked along another road, when I got back to her she asked me if she had walked alone, and then something like "but ...", as if I was some new person she had meet and she wondered where the other guy had gone .. She was probably on her way to get fucked anyway ;/

Re:Hmmm ... (5, Insightful)

Lucidus (681639) | about 5 years ago | (#27593911)

Let's see - you describe this girl as "ass" the first you see her, and after helping her on her way, you wonder whether you should have asked for a blow job. I don't want to be cruel, but this is deeply fucked up, and it is now at least partly apparent why you are still a virgin.

No, you should not have asked for a BJ, and no, it would not have been "the normal male thing to do." Thinking about it, sure; asking, absolutely not.

BTW, being a virgin at 30 is not, in itself, a bad thing, but still being a virgin many years after reaching the decision that you are ready for sex - that is unfortunate.

Seriously, though, there are some really important things that you obviously don't get, at all, and you need more help than you are going to find on Slashdot. Please talk to someone. Best of luck.

Re:Hmmm ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593787)

seriously? 30? go to amsterdam's red light district or something...

Re:Hmmm ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593903)

No thanks, no intrest for prostitutes .. Or well, maybe in thailand, but then I'd have to go there to :D

Re:Hmmm ... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593799)

That and virgin at 30.

... in a country with long, dark winters & resultant heavy drinking? Yikes. You sir, are a geek's geek.

Re:Hmmm ... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593871)

Well, moving out of your mom's basement will help fix problems with the lack of light and the low vitamin d levels.

Come to think of it, it will probably help that whole "virgin at 30" thing too.

Re:Hmmm ... (5, Insightful)

BeanThere (28381) | about 5 years ago | (#27592909)

Yeah. I recently moved from a crummy polluted inland rat-race city to a beautiful coastal more relaxed and cleaner well-run city, and everyone told me crap like "if you're not happy here, you're not going to be happy there, because your problems are internal" ... well, surprise, I *am* a lot happier. Much happier. Haven't missed the old place (though I lived there over 30 years) for one minute. And I almost believed those idiots.

Re:Hmmm ... (5, Funny)

HTH NE1 (675604) | about 5 years ago | (#27592959)

Still, even in what the popular consensus holds to be the happiest of places, the following quotation could still apply:

Ursa Minor is almost certainly the most appalling place in the universe. Though it is excruciatingly rich, horrifyingly sunny and more full of wonderfully exciting people than a pomegranate is of pips, it can hardly be insignificant that when a recent edition of the magazine Play-Being headlined an article with the words "When You Are Tired of Ursa Minor You Are Tired of Life" the suicide rate in the constellation quadrupled overnight.

Re:Hmmm ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593271)

"if you're not happy here, you're not going to be happy there, because your problems are internal"

That's what the voices in my head told me before I moved out of the mental hospital!

Re:Hmmm ... (3, Informative)

Rycross (836649) | about 5 years ago | (#27593681)

Yeah, I've pretty much learned to ignore anyone who claims that "happiness comes from within" or that "your problems are internal." I mean, there are some cases where they are, but in most cases they're because of a shitty job, shitty friends, shitty location, or other shittiness.

Re:Hmmm ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593927)

Yep. Baltimore sucks.

Re:Hmmm ... (4, Interesting)

HTH NE1 (675604) | about 5 years ago | (#27593031)

Live in a crappy neighborhood makes for crappy moods? Lemme be the first to tell the CDC: DUUUH!

I don't know how many times I've read of someone discovering a self-reenforcing feedback loop of one kind or another and reporting it as a hitherto unknown and insightful fact.

Life, as many people have spotted, is, of course, terribly unfair. For instance, the first time the Heart of Gold ever crossed the galaxy the massive improbability field it generated caused two hundred and thirty-nine thousand lightly-fried eggs to materialize in a large, wobbly heap on the famine-struck land of Poghril in the Pansel system. The whole Poghril tribe had just died out from famine, except for one man who died of cholesterol-poisoning some weeks later.

The Poghrils, always a pessimistic race, had a little riddle, the asking of which used to give them the only tiny twinges of pleasure they ever experienced. One Poghril would ask another Poghril, "Why is life like hanging upside down with your head in a bucket of hyena offal?" to which the second Poghril would reply, "I don't know, why is life like hanging upside down with your head in a bucket of hyena offal?" to which the first Poghril would reply, "I don't know either. Wretched, isn't it?"

Here is a better story. (5, Informative)

arizwebfoot (1228544) | about 5 years ago | (#27592719)

Re:Here is a better story. (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27592877)

My university network has fulltext access to the journal. The journal article doesn't seem to be available yet, but the publisher's press release [elsevier.com] is. From the Dread Publisher Elsevier:

San Diego, CA, 14 April 2009 - Frequent Mental Distress (FMD), defined as having 14 or more days in the previous month when stress, depression and emotional problems were not good , is not evenly distributed across the United States. In fact, certain geographic areas have consistently high or consistently low FMD incidence, as shown in a study published in the June 2009 issue of the American Journal of Preventive Medicine.

Combining data from annual large-scale surveys in 1993-2001 and 2003-2006 by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, researchers found that the adult prevalence of FMD was 9.4% overall, ranging from 6.6% in Hawaii to 14.4% in Kentucky. FMD prevalence varied both over time and by geographic area within states. From the earlier period to the later period, the mean prevalence of FMD increased by at least 1 percentage point in 27 states and by more than 4 percentage points in Mississippi, Oklahoma and West Virginia. The Appalachian and the Mississippi Valley regions had high and increasing FMD prevalence, and the upper Midwest had low and decreasing FMD prevalence.

The state-based Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System (BRFSS) has asked questions about mental health since 1993 and collects data from random telephone surveys of adult residents across the U.S. More than 1.2 million people were surveyed in each of the two periods. FMD prevalence was determined by county, and the results were smoothed to reduce variation from random sampling due to small sample sizes in less populous counties.

For the 1993-2001 period, the smoothed FMD prevalence was less than 8% in 31.8% of the 3112 counties analyzed and was 12.0% in 4.8% of the counties. For the 2003-2006 period, the smoothed FMD prevalence was "Because FMD often indicates potentially unmet health and social service needs, programs for public health, community mental health and social services whose jurisdictions include areas with high FMD levels should collaborate to identify and eliminate the specific preventable sources of this distress," said Dr. Matthew M. Zack, the study's lead investigator. "With the growing scientific literature linking FMD to treatable mental illnesses and preventable mental health problems, the increased use of these surveillance data in community mental health decision making is especially warranted. The continued surveillance of mental distress may help these programs to identify unmet needs and disparities, to focus their policies and interventions and to evaluate their performance over time."

The article is "Geographic Patterns of Frequent Mental Distress: U.S. Adults, 1993-2001 and 2003-2006" by David G. Moriarty, BS, Matthew M. Zack, MD, MPH, James B. Holt, PhD, Daniel P. Chapman, PhD, MSc and Marc A. Safran, MD, MPA, DFAPA, FACPM. It appears in the American Journal of Preventive Medicine, Volume 36, Issue 6 (June 2009) published by Elsevier.

How living in Portland affects your mode (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593741)

The Three R's of Portland
or
Why Portland Sucks

"Latte Town" was coined a few years back and is the most appropriate term for the City of Portland that I have ever heard. A Latte town consists of mostly white, educated baby boomers and young single people. The inhabitants of the town are usually newcomers who have priced out all the original inhabitants. These towns are usually expensive, pretentious, abound in natural fibers and are laid back on the surface. Latte towns like Portland pride themselves on their most cherished concepts of diversity and inclusiveness. Most Portlanders accept this myth as Gospel but upon close examination Portland's dirty little secret is revealed. Portland is an overwhelmingly white, non-ethnic city. It is as vanilla as it gets so it makes one wonder what all the celebrating of diversity is all about. Drive through any neighborhood surrounding the downtown area and the impression that you get is that Portland is nothing more than a series of elitist ghettos compromised of rich white homosexuals, rich white yuppies, rich white hippies, rich white trust funders, and rich white kids from the suburbs pretending to be street people. Where's the diversity? Well it doesn't exist but the average Portlander likes the concept and in their eyes the different shades of rich whites all constituent diversity. In a series of articles I will attempt to breakdown and explain these subtle distinctions between the various factions of lily white, latte people that make Portland what it is.

The Artist-Intellectual
The visitor or newcomer to Portland is bound to be struck by the sheer numbers that belong to this group. They seem to be everywhere and are in fact everywhere. They are the reason that all the coffee shops have tables and chairs. The artist-intellectual fancies himself as a poet, a writer, a musician, a filmmaker, etc. You get the drift. They spend most of their days idling around the coffee establishments that one finds every 10 feet. They are usually equipped with a notebook that they use for their poems, journals or their artwork. No one ever gets to see the contents of these notebooks. More often than not they have a beaten and weathered paper back copy of some book authored by Kafka or William S. Boroughs. They love to discuss their favorite subject, themselves. Given the opportunity they will prattle on for hours about their poems, art work or the film they are making. You never get to actually see any of their work but you do get to hear about it. Their lives are like one never ending semester in grad school. Initially I believed these losers but then got to thinking. What would an aspiring actor, artist, musician, filmmaker being doing in Portland Oregon, a latte town? Why wouldn't they be in NYC or LA? Because they're phonies, that's why. Here's how it works with these clowns. They flunk out of college in New Jersey so their parents send them to Reed College in Portland in hopes that they will get their act together. They drop out of Reed but stay in Portland while still on Daddy's tab or some trust find. One Saturday Josh or Seth drifts down to one of the hundreds of hippie craft markets downtown. Some hippie is selling didgeridoos that he made I between bong reps. Josh buy one and takes it home where he proceeds to get baked after which he blows a few sour notes into the didgeridoo. The next day he's a musician. Not really but that's what he's telling everyone at the coffee house and pretending is good enough for a Portland artist-intellectual, in fact it's everything. In three months he will switch his designation from musician to filmmaker and then onto to something else 3 months later. As long as it sounds cool he will keep this charade up and no one in his circles will call him on it because they are doing the same thing.

The Activist
This group is usually comprised of people that used to be part of the artist-intellectual group in Portland. They have gotten a little older and may have finally, after 12 years, obtained a liberal arts degree from Portland State or Reed College. They may still run in artist-intellectual circles but have latched onto some "cause" at this time of their life. An activist always lives off some sort of trust fund or inheritance. When you ask an activist what he does for a living he will actually say he is an "activist" with a straight face. I used to look in the want ads and at the state employment office but never once did I see an advertised job entitled "activist". The activist usually lives in some semi communal house with other activist and artist-intellectuals, the kind of place where people sleep on mattresses on the floor and where the walls are covered with hippie tapestries. Oh yeah there are always like 15 cats roaming around the house and it stinks of cat piss, body odor and patchouli. The activist is still a bum at heart but feels the need to pretend that he is productive and feels extremely self conscious about living off some one else's money but not enough to actually get a job. So the activist associates himself with the following types of groups: art councils, school-to-work collaboratives, environmental groups, preservation groups, community-supported agriculture, antidevelopment groups, and other ad hoc activist groups. Affiliation with these groups will change every 6 months or so. It all sounds cool and actually creates the impression that they work.

The Crone
The Crone is a middle-aged woman that lives alone with her two cats. She is extremely bitter and unpleasant to be around. Crones usually populate the SE and NW sides of Portland. Often you can see that the Crone was quite attractive in her day. You can easily envision her twirling around dressed like Stevie Nicks at some Grateful Dead show back in 1978 Nature and time have not been good to her. She's always had a bad attitude but at least in her younger days she had perky breast and booty to match. Nice T&A can go a long way for making up for a crappy attitude but now she's only left with the bad attitude and the Stevie Nicks get up. The Crone is usually involved in several crackpot wymn's organizations that promote some sort of radical and unrealistic form of feminism. They usually have names like the United Front of Sisterhood or Radical Wymin For The Extermination Of The Male Species. Crones usually have jobs in local government or at State Universities, places where their inability to get along with anyone has no bearing on keeping their jobs. I worked with a Crone at City Hall. She filed a sexual harassment charge against me because she was eavesdropping on a phone conversation I was having and I said the word "chick". She filed another sexual grievance against a guy because he displayed a family picture on his desk of his wife and four kids at the beach. His wife was wearing a bathing suit, one piece, and this sexually offended the Crone who viewed this as objectifying women. The Crone wishes she were a lesbian because she hates men so much. She's tried to convert but it never took. Now her only objective in life is to feed her cats, read Tarot cards and make every one else's life a living hell.

The New Age Spiritualist
This could very easily be the official religious doctrine of Portland. All Portlanders fall into one of two groups when it comes to God. They are either atheists or they are new age spiritualists. You can hear them espousing their creed everywhere, "I'm spiritual but not religious", as if this automatically put them on the moral high ground. This belief system can best be described as spirituality without obligation. The new age spiritualist lives in a moral temperate zone where he picks and chooses tenants from all faiths that suit his lifestyle of the moment. Anything self sacrificing or too stringent is discarded and deemed "dogmatic" or "too religious". This way he can have the best of both worlds. In reality he gets little more than a set of watered down moral concepts that do nothing more than validate the liberal sensibilities that may be in fashion at the moment. For example, the New Age Spiritualist eschews judgmetalism. Particularly judgementalism that conflicts with their desires but he will embrace judgementalism when it comes to condemning cigarette smoking or individuals that don't have the right perception on the three R's which are racial sensitivity, recycling and reproductive rights. The new age spiritualist's home will be adorned with religious objects of oppressed people. Amazonian figures, Native American totems, Egyptian deities, animistic shells, or Shinto statuettes abound. The rules is that it's OK to display religious articles as long as you have no real association or knowledge of the said religion. A Crucifix would be seen as something a little too extreme.

The Dude
This is without a doubt the most ubiquitous character roaming the streets of Portland or any other Latte town for that matter. The Dude is usually a young white male that has great enthusiasm for games that are usually associated with extreme sports and the X-Games. He is called a Dude because this is the most commonly used word in his vocabulary. You've heard them before. They are the kind of guys that refer to everyone as 'dude' and use 'dude' as a noun adjective and a verb. When they say 'dude' they put a lot of emphasis on the "u". They say 'duuude' instead of 'dude'. Their aspiration is for life to resemble an extended hobby. Work is playful and play is something they pursue with earnest. Most don't work but if they must you can find them working at places that sell skateboards, snowboards and other thing that are of supreme importance to the Dude. Dudes are usually extremely stupid and have flunked out of all the worst community colleges so they rarely associate with the activist or artist-intellectual unless of course there is some sort of sharing of drugs thing going on. The Dude is held in high esteem in Portland because he is seen as someone who is bucking the system. He will quit a job in a heartbeat if the swells on the Columbia are optimal for shredding. He lives for the moment, the perfect wave and the perfect buzz. Priorities and responsibilities are no more than an after thought for these Portland cowboys.

Hippies
These dirty repugnant characters are the status quo in Portland. They seem to run across three generations and are composed of people who came from privileged backgrounds because no one from the real world could possibly embrace the fairytale concepts that the hippies hold dear. The hippies day is a full day consisting of sleeping till noon, smoking pot, protesting progress and reason, playing hackey sack and seeing how long they can go without bathing before they become infested with ticks. The hippie's biggest fears are work and responsibility so they go to great lengths to paint the "system" as thoroughly corrupt in order to avoid growing up. In their eyes any participation in the "system" is "selling out". This allows the hippy to live a lay about life without any moral quandary. Hippies without trust funds and generous parents must do some sort of work in order to buy pot and overpriced organic hippy food. This is why Portland has so many "markets". These are closed markets in the classic Marxist tradition. The hippies sell their hippy crap to tourist and yuppies with more money than sense. Here you can buy beeswax candles, dream catchers, and soap dishes made out of bird feathers. Bring plenty of money cause this shit ain't cheap. All major credit cards accepted. Hippies are easy to spot in Portland. Just envision the crowd at the original Woodstock in 1969. That's exactly what you will see with the Portland hippy. They will usually go by names like Sunshine, Rain, Heather, Noah, Seth or Jeremiah although the varieties are endless. Some hippies are hard to spot. They are usually 40 and over and have compromised themselves with jobs. Make no mistake about it, they are still hippies and when 5:00 pm rolls around they ditch the suit in favor of Birkenstocks and hemp clothing. These are the ones that make sure that the hippy ethos is forcefully inserted in all spheres of Portland's civic, cultural and business affairs. They are the ones that ensure that Portland remains soft on crime and educational standards and hard on increased taxation, subsidies and cumbersome business regulations.

The Psycho-Feminist
This is usually a young woman in her 20's or 30's. She has attended college and has received some feminist indoctrination in how awful the male species is. The problem is that the Psycho-Feminist still prefers men sexually. Some how she must balance her desire for empowerment with her more natural desire to find a mate. The Psycho-Feminist is truly as confused individual. She really has no idea how to reconcile her place in the world. She cannot balance her professional aspirations with her private life and is in constant turmoil over making any sacrifice between marriage, family and career. If you have had the misfortune to have dated or married such a woman I feel for you. Once you get out of that relationship, and you must get out, you will need years of therapy before you are right again. The Psycho-Feminist will subject you to years of emotional abuse over her gender turmoil. She's not man but doesn't know what it means to be woman. One minute she will want flowers and doors held open for her the next minute she will be cursing you out like a drunken sailor for some perceived slight. This breed more often than not ends up joining the ranks of the Crones. You can usually find the Psycho-Feminist at Powell's Bookstore completely immersed in some feminist manifesto like "Our Bodies Ourselves". Guys do yourselves a favor and find a nice foreign-born girl.

The Sensitive Male
Nature abhors nothing more than the sensitive male yet he proliferates in Portland. You will often be out at the Saturday Market and say to yourself, "Another lesbian couple!?" Upon closer examination you noticed that the more feminine looking partner is not a lesbian but is fact a man, the sensitive male. This is a guy that is really in touch with his feelings and it is not below him to gently weep after reading a poem or a love story. He usually "is not really into sports". He prefers careers in the "healing fields" like massage therapy, teaching yoga or some sort of new age mumbo-jumbo therapy. He is devoid of any passion or a sense of humor. Regular guys horrify him. He is disdainful of them and feels that his sensitive approach to life is superior. A psycho-feminist usually scoops him up and she controls every aspect his life. Eventually he decides, after years of dream remission therapy, that he is a homosexual and he leaves her. The sensitive male likes to read Iron John Bly and participates in events allied with the Men's Movement. He can usually be found pounding on a drum in the woods with other sensitive males. He is best personified by the hippie school teacher Mr. Van Dreesen on the Beavis and Butthead cartoons. Wymn in Portland prefer that all men go down the road of sensitive male and throngs of counselors in the mental health and educational professions have made it their business to castrate young men by turning them into these cream puff, pussies knows as the sensitive male.

The proper way to handle a Marxist.Radical Marxists: No Life, No Critical Thinking Skills, No Class!!
A few years ago the country got to witness firsthand the #1 reason why Portland sucks - Radical Marxists! On simple Thursday, GWB (our duly elected president) came to town for a fundraiser (good heavens!). Predictably, there were be hordes of smelly, ranting, screaming protesters greeting him, reinforcing the well-earned stereotype that Portlanders are childish 60's throwbacks. First of all, let's get one thing clear - no left-wing protester or group is ever what they claim to be (despite the kid-gloves treatment they receive in the local media). Many of these groups are often Trojan Horses for more sinister, anti-American groups such as the World Workers Party (a Maoist Group that supports the likes of that shitstain-with-a-pompadour, Kim Jung Il). Calling your 'gang' an 'Organization for Peace and Justice' does not change what you really are (pro-Communist garbage). But don't expect the local new personalities to tell us this. It's not on their teleprompter. The most notable thing to look for will be the complete lack of critical thinking skills. Many of these dregs have announced that they will be working to 'educate' people about the president's policies before his visit ('educate,' of course, is a convenient euphemism for 'convincing the stupid.'). Anyone who isn't a mouth-breathing Mongoloid is already pretty aware of who George W. Bush is, and how he has responded admirably against the Islamos that want to kill all of us (liberal sympathizers included, by the way). Why would you admit on television that you are seeking out people who don't know what the fuck is going on in the world to help you with your cause? The activists hope (and are often correct) that they will find some unplugged, ignorant, urban-legend-believing street trash who will agree with them that Bush 1) "Stole the election" (despite the numerous Florida recounts after the election which proved conclusively that Bush would have won with or without the Supreme Court decision) 2) "Ruined the economy" (despite the fact that the bubble burst under Clinton in 1999) and 3) gives "Tax cuts to the rich" (despite the fact that everyone gets tax breaks - everyone that is who fucking pays taxes in the first place!). As a result, the professional protester does not respond well to having his or her 'logic' questioned. With no real facts or debating skills to back them up, they will ignore any challenge posed to them and immediately fall back on their "I have a right to dissent" shtick. In fact, in order to avoid being challenged at all, they will noisily chant, scream, block traffic, blow whistles and bang drums (there's even a 'No War Drum Corps' if you can believe it)! This ensures that all Bush supporters are drowned out, and none of the anti-Bush troglodytes will ever have to defend his or her uninformed positions. Their newest tactic will be to stage 'Die-ins' in which the protesters will pretend to actually care about dead U.S. soldiers. This is actually true - the protesters DO hope that our brave troops come back soon (so they can spit in their faces and call them 'baby killers'). Finally, the ignorance of these people will lead them to conclude that since Bush is so poorly received here (and the likes of Hillary can come and go in Portland with no security concerns) then people must actually LIKE Hillary more than Bush. This overlooks the obvious, inescapable truth that people on the Right are actually more tolerant, accepting, and civilized than leftists are. When a Republican president comes to town, he is greeted with violence, hatred, drums, whistles and shit flinging (literally). This has earned Portland the well-deserved moniker of 'Little Beirut.' On the other hand, when a prominent Democrat or Greenie comes to town, the worst they can expect to encounter a well dressed person holding a sign.

Wiggers: Sportin' Wood in the 'Hood
The second reason why Portland sucks so badly is the large, growing class of people politely known as 'wiggers.' I don't think I need to explain the origins of that term. We've all seen 'em at the mall: white boys with their overly baggy pants down around their ankles (well, at least low enough to show us all their Jo Boxers). Many teenage boys in Portland's 'burbs dress this way, despite the fact that this look has been around for over a decade now. This is hardly surprising, given the fact that the 'Grunge Look' (which began 13 years ago) remains quite prevalent as well. Hell, in many parts of Southeast Portland and Milwaukie, you will still encounter people with FEATHERED HAIR!!! Unless some sort of time portal to 1981 has opened up on the Eastside, there are some serious fashion problems going on in that part of town! I have a theory as to why the wigger look has increased in popularity as of late - it is being supported by the well-funded NAMBLA lobby. It's worth noting that many wiggers are related to the "Closet Fags in the O.C." group (guys that wear cowboy hats in Oregon City and beat up gays, but that's a topic for another day). You often find 'wigs' tooling down 82nd Ave, rap music blasting from their low-riders, with speaker systems normally reserved for mid-sized movie theaters crammed into the back seat. Since the distortion is so bad, only the base line is audible (actually 'felt' would be more accurate). There is nothing particularly surprising about the fact that 'gangsta rap' is far more popular with this lot than with 'inner city' kids. The wigger hero, of course, is Eminem. He is their GOD (followed closely by J.Z. and Fiddy Cent). Oddly enough, as geeky, stupid and unemployable as these losers are, the handful of attractive straight women in the Portland area are extremely attracted to them. Further analysis reveals that since most women have the "fag hag" gene, it naturally follows that they would be fascinated with wiggers, for wiggers are in fact gay whites who are secretly in love with black men. Although he lacks any of their 'hipness' Michael Moore is actually the biggest wigger of them all (as evidenced by his "black men would never have allowed those terrorists on 9/11 to take over their plane" comment last year in the U.K.). Thank Christ that at least HE's not from Portland! Some important wigger words to know are "yo," "home boy," "zzup," "whatup," "dog," "ho," and "bitch." Speaking of bitches, yes there ARE female wiggers, but oddly enough, not in Portland. You'll find all female wiggers either in the Deep South, or in Chicago (making their mandatory appearance on The Jenny Jones Show). As with the males, female wiggers are primarily attracted to black men. So the next time you white suburbanites spot a kid at a mall trying to hit on girls, quitely and discreetly call him over and tell him "pardon me, sir, I didn't want to say anything, but your underwear ISN'T showing). He'll thank ya for the advice.

Hey Meester, want to meet my seester?Shitty Schools: Habla Escola Crappo?
Portland's Shitty School System. Schools in Portland are some of the worst in the nation. Due to unrestricted 'drunken sailor' spending on social programs over the last decade, the Portland school board is now faced with its biggest funding crisis in history. Due to this (and an almost sexual fixation with 'diversity' and political correctness) Portland public schools are simply gawd-awful! Let me first start by comparing Portland schools to their neighbors-to-the-north, Vancouver (or 'The 'Couv' as it is affectionately known). Vancouver, WA (in fact, Washington State in general) has a program called 'Excel,' which allows top students the opportunity to be challenged with a more advanced curriculum (I bet you could tell by now that I'm white, couldn't ya?). On the other hand, Portland public schools pander to the lowest common denominator - 'smart' students get crapped on, while 'slower' students get frequent trips to the zoo and free breakfast. It has always been this way. In addition, Washington does not grease up and bend over every time some racist 'we're not doing well as whitey' group pops up out of its cave. In The 'Couv, we have a good mix of White, Asian, Black, Middle Eastern (gulp) and Hispanic students. As someone who is bilingual, I realize the importance of teaching children a foreign language. However, I'm not down at monthly school board meetings, demanding that the schools cater to my children's special 'cultural needs' or teach them in Japanese for half the day. Nor does my wife insist on making Emperor Akihito's birthday a statewide holiday (as opposed to some 'communities' in Oregon who will soon get that commie Caesar Chavez crammed down their throats). Why is it that you NEVER, I mean NEVER see Asian students presenting themselves as 'victims of the system?' You will never see the school board in Portland tell the Afro-Hispanic Mafia that since people from China, Japan, S. Korea, Vietnam, Laos, etc., can come here and do well within a generation there is no need to create a special program for anybody?? The reason is that they are ballless pussies. Rather than state the obvious, the Portland school board curls up into the fetal position whenever the race-baiters snap their fingers. True, black students are often stuck in crappy schools in crappy neighborhoods (talk to the Democrap teachers unions about why they are so violently opposed to black students being able to choose their school - they're the ones holding them back). The next time I see a group of 'Hispanic students for educational equality' rallying in downtown Portland, I'm going to call the school board and make a logical suggestion. If they really do want a 'magic pill' solution for their shitty grades, we should pass a law requiring that Mexicano parents spend as much time and effort with their kids as Whites and Asians do. They could amend the law to require that these students think farther into the future than next weekend's gang initiation rape party. They could also (and I'm really going out on a limb with this one) insist that Hispanic students actually REFRAIN from having babies until they're out of high school. (OK, I knew I would push my luck eventually). Something needs to be done, and fast. If Portland schools continue to shorten their school years, according to their own so-called 'community leaders' the Homeys and Esses will have no choice but to go out and commit crimes. Apparently spending ones free time learning a skill or studying during the summer is just too goddamn white (again, Asians don't seem to say this, but the libs do have a convenient, albeit racist, theory about why Asians succeed - I'll have to tell you about that some other time).

My mood? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27592731)

As soon as I hear a fucking moron with 5000W of "boom-boom-boom" noise coming my way, my blood pressure goes up.

We got laws against noisy car exhausts but no laws against braindead, anti-social psychopaths who annoy everyone in a 3 miles radius with their loud so-called music.

I'm getting my gun.

Re:My mood? (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27592779)

Florida's the opposite way. There is a law against car stereos [albeit never enforced], but no car inspection and no regulations about mufflers and engine noise from vehicles and motorcycles. Then again, Florida is a shithole.

Re:My mood? (3, Interesting)

CRCulver (715279) | about 5 years ago | (#27592781)

Personally, I prefer noisy places to silent places. I currently reside part of the year in Finland, and the taciturn nature of the people and the strict noise laws only add to the depression caused by the lack of sunlight and long winters. When I leave Finland for somewhere like Cairo or Hong Kong, it's like rejoining civilization.

Back in the 1960s, Larry Niven (in World of Ptaavs, now collected in Three Books of Known Space [amazon.com] ) suggested that the future will get ever noisier, thanks to a rising population and people living closer together in the metropolis, necessitating changes in human evolution. Well, nowadays sound-proofing materials and noise-canceling headphones are getting cheaper and cheaper, so noise is a nuisance that can be overcome.

Re:My mood? (4, Insightful)

MyLongNickName (822545) | about 5 years ago | (#27592925)

Except that I don't mind hearing normal sounds outside. Kids playing. Birds chirping. Folks talking. But the unemployed teenager who somehow can get a $5,000 sound system into his $500 chevy... That I don't want to hear.

Re:My mood? (3, Funny)

francium de neobie (590783) | about 5 years ago | (#27593567)

I live in Hong Kong. The noise, pollution and traffic in the urban area sucks. The stupid consumerist culture sucks. You can buy a noise canceling headphone or in-canal earphone to eliminate the noise, but you can't eliminate the pollution and wasted time caused by the traffic. You also can't stop your friends from showing you "bling" even though they actually earn less than you. Oh, and even my mom is wasting MY money for those useless bling, fuck.

Re:My mood? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27592791)

that's right.. when someone does something you don't like, it's 'anti-social,' when you do something someone else doesn't like, it's 'freedom.' 'anti-social' is rapidly becoming the left-wing hate-speech label for action.

Re:My mood? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593073)

'anti-social' is rapidly becoming the left-wing hate-speech label for action.

My wings are dorsal and ventral you insensitive clod!

Re:My mood? (-1, Flamebait)

aliquis (678370) | about 5 years ago | (#27592823)

Hi oldie, don't worry too much, you'll soon be dead and gone anyway, no problem with the youths longer.

Re:My mood? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593623)

Boom-boom noise means N-I-G-G-E-R or S-P-I-C.

I live in the United States of America... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27592831)

and I'm in a shitty mood. Whats your point?

Re:I live in the United States of America... (3, Funny)

Kell Bengal (711123) | about 5 years ago | (#27593217)

You have a point - I moved here recently and now I'm not just cranky, but I'm -paranoid- and cranky.

Not that hard to find the actual paper (2, Informative)

Eric Smith (4379) | about 5 years ago | (#27592889)

It's here [cdc.gov].

Re:Not that hard to find the actual paper (5, Informative)

proctor (230646) | about 5 years ago | (#27593097)

That's not it. That's an older article without the state breakdowns. I've not found a legal open link to this paper (about publicly funded research...mutter) but the site in which it resides is http://www.ajpm-online.net/ [ajpm-online.net]

The lead researcher is a Mathew M Zack, who is not listed in this older pdf.

On the upside, I did find that the CDC makes the data on which this new paper is based freely available here: http://apps.nccd.cdc.gov/HRQOL/ [cdc.gov]
with a prettier but less depression specific version here:
http://www.cdc.gov/hrqol/findings.htm [cdc.gov]

Re:Not that hard to find the actual paper (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593157)

Geez, did you see the 4-digit ID? Leave him alone already, will you? Smile politely, get off his lawn, and don't come back unless you're fetching pancakes.

Re:Not that hard to find the actual paper (1)

Eric Smith (4379) | about 5 years ago | (#27593239)

Oops! Thanks for the clarification.

(about publicly funded research...mutter)

Indeed.

Re:Not that hard to find the actual paper (1)

Stile 65 (722451) | about 5 years ago | (#27593101)

That paper's from 1997, and focuses on proximity to metro area, gender, race and education level, whereas the new one focuses on state of residency.

My wife lives in the same place I do (5, Funny)

syousef (465911) | about 5 years ago | (#27592891)

...not in post natal PMS Hells-ville, so I don't think the article quite holds.

If you're reading this honey, just kidding! Love you! Let's go shopping for an eternity ring... ;-)

Better Summary With Link to Orriginal Study (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27592907)

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-04/ehs-wyl041209.php

Hm, I dunno. (5, Interesting)

aztektum (170569) | about 5 years ago | (#27592913)

I moved FROM Wisconsin to Oregon 5 years ago and I have to say my life is far more diverse now, far more cheery. When I deal with people from "back home" they don't seem to be happy so much as living in willful ignorance.

I guess what I'm saying is my anecdotal experience is that people in the "more depressed" regions are more aware of their true mood and perhaps answer more honestly because of it?

Re:Hm, I dunno. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593227)

I would say you're spot on. I lived in Illinois for a few years, and (Chicago excluded) the place is cultural desert full of boorish hicks who not only rarely leave the town they are born in, but are also proud of infrequently leaving the town they were born in. They tell themselves and their community reinforces that whatever their existence may be it's 'good enough'.

However when you start looking at places with more education per capita and more cultural depth, people there are likely to be aware of the wider world and perhaps be annoyed with how little of it they may be financially empowered to see.

Re:Hm, I dunno. (5, Insightful)

Kell Bengal (711123) | about 5 years ago | (#27593241)

That summarises my experience with many people in the US. They are convinced that their country, their way of doing things, their existence is the ultimate mode of being. Having come here from Australia, I can tell you that there is plenty of room for improvement; it seems that they believe they have/are the best of everything simply because they've never looked (let alone lived) outside of their own backyard.

Re:Hm, I dunno. (1)

Nutria (679911) | about 5 years ago | (#27593411)

That summarises my experience with many people in the US. They are convinced that their country, their way of doing things, their existence is the ultimate mode of being.

That's the standard belief of any (physically and economically) expanding civilization. But now that it has expanded as much as it can, it's slowly turning into Europe,,,

Re:Hm, I dunno. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593267)

Interesting.

I grew up in Wisconsin and moved to Illinois. I'd agree that Wisconsinites live in willful ignorance (imagine my shock when a friend from the west coast said he could get snow anytime he wanted by going from the sunny valley into the mountains; it's sounds so good and yet downright wrong to have snow whenever you want that it sounds spoiled to me).

However, Illinois, I think, may have the cognitive dissonance thing more so than Wisconsin. There are no hills here and few trees, rivers, and lakes. It's taken 13 years for me to enjoy the countryside, and that's probably from spending too much time in town.

Wisconsin ain't the best, but it ain't the worst, either. :)

Re:Hm, I dunno. (1)

slashtivus (1162793) | about 5 years ago | (#27593409)

I also moved from WI to OR about 3 years ago. (I've lived in various places as well.) Personally, I honestly liked quite a few things about WI. (I'm from the Northwoods with lots of hills and lakes and open places).

I simply got sick of the long freezing-cold winters.

Re:Hm, I dunno. (2, Interesting)

MozeeToby (1163751) | about 5 years ago | (#27593457)

I'm originally from WI too and I'm going to have to disagree. Little known fact, WI has more golf courses than almost any other state, it has the largest water parks, and a ton of recreational lakes for fishing and/or skiing. Keep in mind that most of those activities can only be done for 4 or 5 months out of the year. Then there's all the winter activities for the rest of the year. People in WI just know how to get out and have fun.

Oh... and WI is also the drunkest state per capita. That might have something to do with it too.

Re:Hm, I dunno. (1)

mls (97121) | about 5 years ago | (#27593697)

Where in Wisconsin did you move from? From the Time article, it looks like mood is worse in SE Wisconsin (go figure) than the rest of the state.

How living in Portland, OR affects your mode (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593885)

The Three R's of Portland
or
Why Portland Sucks

"Latte Town" was coined a few years back and is the most appropriate term for the City of Portland that I have ever heard. A Latte town consists of mostly white, educated baby boomers and young single people. The inhabitants of the town are usually newcomers who have priced out all the original inhabitants. These towns are usually expensive, pretentious, abound in natural fibers and are laid back on the surface. Latte towns like Portland pride themselves on their most cherished concepts of diversity and inclusiveness. Most Portlanders accept this myth as Gospel but upon close examination Portland's dirty little secret is revealed. Portland is an overwhelmingly white, non-ethnic city. It is as vanilla as it gets so it makes one wonder what all the celebrating of diversity is all about. Drive through any neighborhood surrounding the downtown area and the impression that you get is that Portland is nothing more than a series of elitist ghettos compromised of rich white homosexuals, rich white yuppies, rich white hippies, rich white trust funders, and rich white kids from the suburbs pretending to be street people. Where's the diversity? Well it doesn't exist but the average Portlander likes the concept and in their eyes the different shades of rich whites all constituent diversity. In a series of articles I will attempt to breakdown and explain these subtle distinctions between the various factions of lily white, latte people that make Portland what it is.

The Artist-Intellectual
The visitor or newcomer to Portland is bound to be struck by the sheer numbers that belong to this group. They seem to be everywhere and are in fact everywhere. They are the reason that all the coffee shops have tables and chairs. The artist-intellectual fancies himself as a poet, a writer, a musician, a filmmaker, etc. You get the drift. They spend most of their days idling around the coffee establishments that one finds every 10 feet. They are usually equipped with a notebook that they use for their poems, journals or their artwork. No one ever gets to see the contents of these notebooks. More often than not they have a beaten and weathered paper back copy of some book authored by Kafka or William S. Boroughs. They love to discuss their favorite subject, themselves. Given the opportunity they will prattle on for hours about their poems, art work or the film they are making. You never get to actually see any of their work but you do get to hear about it. Their lives are like one never ending semester in grad school. Initially I believed these losers but then got to thinking. What would an aspiring actor, artist, musician, filmmaker being doing in Portland Oregon, a latte town? Why wouldn't they be in NYC or LA? Because they're phonies, that's why. Here's how it works with these clowns. They flunk out of college in New Jersey so their parents send them to Reed College in Portland in hopes that they will get their act together. They drop out of Reed but stay in Portland while still on Daddy's tab or some trust find. One Saturday Josh or Seth drifts down to one of the hundreds of hippie craft markets downtown. Some hippie is selling didgeridoos that he made I between bong reps. Josh buy one and takes it home where he proceeds to get baked after which he blows a few sour notes into the didgeridoo. The next day he's a musician. Not really but that's what he's telling everyone at the coffee house and pretending is good enough for a Portland artist-intellectual, in fact it's everything. In three months he will switch his designation from musician to filmmaker and then onto to something else 3 months later. As long as it sounds cool he will keep this charade up and no one in his circles will call him on it because they are doing the same thing.

The Activist
This group is usually comprised of people that used to be part of the artist-intellectual group in Portland. They have gotten a little older and may have finally, after 12 years, obtained a liberal arts degree from Portland State or Reed College. They may still run in artist-intellectual circles but have latched onto some "cause" at this time of their life. An activist always lives off some sort of trust fund or inheritance. When you ask an activist what he does for a living he will actually say he is an "activist" with a straight face. I used to look in the want ads and at the state employment office but never once did I see an advertised job entitled "activist". The activist usually lives in some semi communal house with other activist and artist-intellectuals, the kind of place where people sleep on mattresses on the floor and where the walls are covered with hippie tapestries. Oh yeah there are always like 15 cats roaming around the house and it stinks of cat piss, body odor and patchouli. The activist is still a bum at heart but feels the need to pretend that he is productive and feels extremely self conscious about living off some one else's money but not enough to actually get a job. So the activist associates himself with the following types of groups: art councils, school-to-work collaboratives, environmental groups, preservation groups, community-supported agriculture, antidevelopment groups, and other ad hoc activist groups. Affiliation with these groups will change every 6 months or so. It all sounds cool and actually creates the impression that they work.

The Crone
The Crone is a middle-aged woman that lives alone with her two cats. She is extremely bitter and unpleasant to be around. Crones usually populate the SE and NW sides of Portland. Often you can see that the Crone was quite attractive in her day. You can easily envision her twirling around dressed like Stevie Nicks at some Grateful Dead show back in 1978 Nature and time have not been good to her. She's always had a bad attitude but at least in her younger days she had perky breast and booty to match. Nice T&A can go a long way for making up for a crappy attitude but now she's only left with the bad attitude and the Stevie Nicks get up. The Crone is usually involved in several crackpot wymn's organizations that promote some sort of radical and unrealistic form of feminism. They usually have names like the United Front of Sisterhood or Radical Wymin For The Extermination Of The Male Species. Crones usually have jobs in local government or at State Universities, places where their inability to get along with anyone has no bearing on keeping their jobs. I worked with a Crone at City Hall. She filed a sexual harassment charge against me because she was eavesdropping on a phone conversation I was having and I said the word "chick". She filed another sexual grievance against a guy because he displayed a family picture on his desk of his wife and four kids at the beach. His wife was wearing a bathing suit, one piece, and this sexually offended the Crone who viewed this as objectifying women. The Crone wishes she were a lesbian because she hates men so much. She's tried to convert but it never took. Now her only objective in life is to feed her cats, read Tarot cards and make every one else's life a living hell.

The New Age Spiritualist
This could very easily be the official religious doctrine of Portland. All Portlanders fall into one of two groups when it comes to God. They are either atheists or they are new age spiritualists. You can hear them espousing their creed everywhere, "I'm spiritual but not religious", as if this automatically put them on the moral high ground. This belief system can best be described as spirituality without obligation. The new age spiritualist lives in a moral temperate zone where he picks and chooses tenants from all faiths that suit his lifestyle of the moment. Anything self sacrificing or too stringent is discarded and deemed "dogmatic" or "too religious". This way he can have the best of both worlds. In reality he gets little more than a set of watered down moral concepts that do nothing more than validate the liberal sensibilities that may be in fashion at the moment. For example, the New Age Spiritualist eschews judgmetalism. Particularly judgementalism that conflicts with their desires but he will embrace judgementalism when it comes to condemning cigarette smoking or individuals that don't have the right perception on the three R's which are racial sensitivity, recycling and reproductive rights. The new age spiritualist's home will be adorned with religious objects of oppressed people. Amazonian figures, Native American totems, Egyptian deities, animistic shells, or Shinto statuettes abound. The rules is that it's OK to display religious articles as long as you have no real association or knowledge of the said religion. A Crucifix would be seen as something a little too extreme.

The Dude
This is without a doubt the most ubiquitous character roaming the streets of Portland or any other Latte town for that matter. The Dude is usually a young white male that has great enthusiasm for games that are usually associated with extreme sports and the X-Games. He is called a Dude because this is the most commonly used word in his vocabulary. You've heard them before. They are the kind of guys that refer to everyone as 'dude' and use 'dude' as a noun adjective and a verb. When they say 'dude' they put a lot of emphasis on the "u". They say 'duuude' instead of 'dude'. Their aspiration is for life to resemble an extended hobby. Work is playful and play is something they pursue with earnest. Most don't work but if they must you can find them working at places that sell skateboards, snowboards and other thing that are of supreme importance to the Dude. Dudes are usually extremely stupid and have flunked out of all the worst community colleges so they rarely associate with the activist or artist-intellectual unless of course there is some sort of sharing of drugs thing going on. The Dude is held in high esteem in Portland because he is seen as someone who is bucking the system. He will quit a job in a heartbeat if the swells on the Columbia are optimal for shredding. He lives for the moment, the perfect wave and the perfect buzz. Priorities and responsibilities are no more than an after thought for these Portland cowboys.

Hippies
These dirty repugnant characters are the status quo in Portland. They seem to run across three generations and are composed of people who came from privileged backgrounds because no one from the real world could possibly embrace the fairytale concepts that the hippies hold dear. The hippies day is a full day consisting of sleeping till noon, smoking pot, protesting progress and reason, playing hackey sack and seeing how long they can go without bathing before they become infested with ticks. The hippie's biggest fears are work and responsibility so they go to great lengths to paint the "system" as thoroughly corrupt in order to avoid growing up. In their eyes any participation in the "system" is "selling out". This allows the hippy to live a lay about life without any moral quandary. Hippies without trust funds and generous parents must do some sort of work in order to buy pot and overpriced organic hippy food. This is why Portland has so many "markets". These are closed markets in the classic Marxist tradition. The hippies sell their hippy crap to tourist and yuppies with more money than sense. Here you can buy beeswax candles, dream catchers, and soap dishes made out of bird feathers. Bring plenty of money cause this shit ain't cheap. All major credit cards accepted. Hippies are easy to spot in Portland. Just envision the crowd at the original Woodstock in 1969. That's exactly what you will see with the Portland hippy. They will usually go by names like Sunshine, Rain, Heather, Noah, Seth or Jeremiah although the varieties are endless. Some hippies are hard to spot. They are usually 40 and over and have compromised themselves with jobs. Make no mistake about it, they are still hippies and when 5:00 pm rolls around they ditch the suit in favor of Birkenstocks and hemp clothing. These are the ones that make sure that the hippy ethos is forcefully inserted in all spheres of Portland's civic, cultural and business affairs. They are the ones that ensure that Portland remains soft on crime and educational standards and hard on increased taxation, subsidies and cumbersome business regulations.

The Psycho-Feminist
This is usually a young woman in her 20's or 30's. She has attended college and has received some feminist indoctrination in how awful the male species is. The problem is that the Psycho-Feminist still prefers men sexually. Some how she must balance her desire for empowerment with her more natural desire to find a mate. The Psycho-Feminist is truly as confused individual. She really has no idea how to reconcile her place in the world. She cannot balance her professional aspirations with her private life and is in constant turmoil over making any sacrifice between marriage, family and career. If you have had the misfortune to have dated or married such a woman I feel for you. Once you get out of that relationship, and you must get out, you will need years of therapy before you are right again. The Psycho-Feminist will subject you to years of emotional abuse over her gender turmoil. She's not man but doesn't know what it means to be woman. One minute she will want flowers and doors held open for her the next minute she will be cursing you out like a drunken sailor for some perceived slight. This breed more often than not ends up joining the ranks of the Crones. You can usually find the Psycho-Feminist at Powell's Bookstore completely immersed in some feminist manifesto like "Our Bodies Ourselves". Guys do yourselves a favor and find a nice foreign-born girl.

The Sensitive Male
Nature abhors nothing more than the sensitive male yet he proliferates in Portland. You will often be out at the Saturday Market and say to yourself, "Another lesbian couple!?" Upon closer examination you noticed that the more feminine looking partner is not a lesbian but is fact a man, the sensitive male. This is a guy that is really in touch with his feelings and it is not below him to gently weep after reading a poem or a love story. He usually "is not really into sports". He prefers careers in the "healing fields" like massage therapy, teaching yoga or some sort of new age mumbo-jumbo therapy. He is devoid of any passion or a sense of humor. Regular guys horrify him. He is disdainful of them and feels that his sensitive approach to life is superior. A psycho-feminist usually scoops him up and she controls every aspect his life. Eventually he decides, after years of dream remission therapy, that he is a homosexual and he leaves her. The sensitive male likes to read Iron John Bly and participates in events allied with the Men's Movement. He can usually be found pounding on a drum in the woods with other sensitive males. He is best personified by the hippie school teacher Mr. Van Dreesen on the Beavis and Butthead cartoons. Wymn in Portland prefer that all men go down the road of sensitive male and throngs of counselors in the mental health and educational professions have made it their business to castrate young men by turning them into these cream puff, pussies knows as the sensitive male.

The proper way to handle a Marxist.Radical Marxists: No Life, No Critical Thinking Skills, No Class!!
A few years ago the country got to witness firsthand the #1 reason why Portland sucks - Radical Marxists! On simple Thursday, GWB (our duly elected president) came to town for a fundraiser (good heavens!). Predictably, there were be hordes of smelly, ranting, screaming protesters greeting him, reinforcing the well-earned stereotype that Portlanders are childish 60's throwbacks. First of all, let's get one thing clear - no left-wing protester or group is ever what they claim to be (despite the kid-gloves treatment they receive in the local media). Many of these groups are often Trojan Horses for more sinister, anti-American groups such as the World Workers Party (a Maoist Group that supports the likes of that shitstain-with-a-pompadour, Kim Jung Il). Calling your 'gang' an 'Organization for Peace and Justice' does not change what you really are (pro-Communist garbage). But don't expect the local new personalities to tell us this. It's not on their teleprompter. The most notable thing to look for will be the complete lack of critical thinking skills. Many of these dregs have announced that they will be working to 'educate' people about the president's policies before his visit ('educate,' of course, is a convenient euphemism for 'convincing the stupid.'). Anyone who isn't a mouth-breathing Mongoloid is already pretty aware of who George W. Bush is, and how he has responded admirably against the Islamos that want to kill all of us (liberal sympathizers included, by the way). Why would you admit on television that you are seeking out people who don't know what the fuck is going on in the world to help you with your cause? The activists hope (and are often correct) that they will find some unplugged, ignorant, urban-legend-believing street trash who will agree with them that Bush 1) "Stole the election" (despite the numerous Florida recounts after the election which proved conclusively that Bush would have won with or without the Supreme Court decision) 2) "Ruined the economy" (despite the fact that the bubble burst under Clinton in 1999) and 3) gives "Tax cuts to the rich" (despite the fact that everyone gets tax breaks - everyone that is who fucking pays taxes in the first place!). As a result, the professional protester does not respond well to having his or her 'logic' questioned. With no real facts or debating skills to back them up, they will ignore any challenge posed to them and immediately fall back on their "I have a right to dissent" shtick. In fact, in order to avoid being challenged at all, they will noisily chant, scream, block traffic, blow whistles and bang drums (there's even a 'No War Drum Corps' if you can believe it)! This ensures that all Bush supporters are drowned out, and none of the anti-Bush troglodytes will ever have to defend his or her uninformed positions. Their newest tactic will be to stage 'Die-ins' in which the protesters will pretend to actually care about dead U.S. soldiers. This is actually true - the protesters DO hope that our brave troops come back soon (so they can spit in their faces and call them 'baby killers'). Finally, the ignorance of these people will lead them to conclude that since Bush is so poorly received here (and the likes of Hillary can come and go in Portland with no security concerns) then people must actually LIKE Hillary more than Bush. This overlooks the obvious, inescapable truth that people on the Right are actually more tolerant, accepting, and civilized than leftists are. When a Republican president comes to town, he is greeted with violence, hatred, drums, whistles and shit flinging (literally). This has earned Portland the well-deserved moniker of 'Little Beirut.' On the other hand, when a prominent Democrat or Greenie comes to town, the worst they can expect to encounter a well dressed person holding a sign.

Wiggers: Sportin' Wood in the 'Hood
The second reason why Portland sucks so badly is the large, growing class of people politely known as 'wiggers.' I don't think I need to explain the origins of that term. We've all seen 'em at the mall: white boys with their overly baggy pants down around their ankles (well, at least low enough to show us all their Jo Boxers). Many teenage boys in Portland's 'burbs dress this way, despite the fact that this look has been around for over a decade now. This is hardly surprising, given the fact that the 'Grunge Look' (which began 13 years ago) remains quite prevalent as well. Hell, in many parts of Southeast Portland and Milwaukie, you will still encounter people with FEATHERED HAIR!!! Unless some sort of time portal to 1981 has opened up on the Eastside, there are some serious fashion problems going on in that part of town! I have a theory as to why the wigger look has increased in popularity as of late - it is being supported by the well-funded NAMBLA lobby. It's worth noting that many wiggers are related to the "Closet Fags in the O.C." group (guys that wear cowboy hats in Oregon City and beat up gays, but that's a topic for another day). You often find 'wigs' tooling down 82nd Ave, rap music blasting from their low-riders, with speaker systems normally reserved for mid-sized movie theaters crammed into the back seat. Since the distortion is so bad, only the base line is audible (actually 'felt' would be more accurate). There is nothing particularly surprising about the fact that 'gangsta rap' is far more popular with this lot than with 'inner city' kids. The wigger hero, of course, is Eminem. He is their GOD (followed closely by J.Z. and Fiddy Cent). Oddly enough, as geeky, stupid and unemployable as these losers are, the handful of attractive straight women in the Portland area are extremely attracted to them. Further analysis reveals that since most women have the "fag hag" gene, it naturally follows that they would be fascinated with wiggers, for wiggers are in fact gay whites who are secretly in love with black men. Although he lacks any of their 'hipness' Michael Moore is actually the biggest wigger of them all (as evidenced by his "black men would never have allowed those terrorists on 9/11 to take over their plane" comment last year in the U.K.). Thank Christ that at least HE's not from Portland! Some important wigger words to know are "yo," "home boy," "zzup," "whatup," "dog," "ho," and "bitch." Speaking of bitches, yes there ARE female wiggers, but oddly enough, not in Portland. You'll find all female wiggers either in the Deep South, or in Chicago (making their mandatory appearance on The Jenny Jones Show). As with the males, female wiggers are primarily attracted to black men. So the next time you white suburbanites spot a kid at a mall trying to hit on girls, quitely and discreetly call him over and tell him "pardon me, sir, I didn't want to say anything, but your underwear ISN'T showing). He'll thank ya for the advice.

Hey Meester, want to meet my seester?Shitty Schools: Habla Escola Crappo?
Portland's Shitty School System. Schools in Portland are some of the worst in the nation. Due to unrestricted 'drunken sailor' spending on social programs over the last decade, the Portland school board is now faced with its biggest funding crisis in history. Due to this (and an almost sexual fixation with 'diversity' and political correctness) Portland public schools are simply gawd-awful! Let me first start by comparing Portland schools to their neighbors-to-the-north, Vancouver (or 'The 'Couv' as it is affectionately known). Vancouver, WA (in fact, Washington State in general) has a program called 'Excel,' which allows top students the opportunity to be challenged with a more advanced curriculum (I bet you could tell by now that I'm white, couldn't ya?). On the other hand, Portland public schools pander to the lowest common denominator - 'smart' students get crapped on, while 'slower' students get frequent trips to the zoo and free breakfast. It has always been this way. In addition, Washington does not grease up and bend over every time some racist 'we're not doing well as whitey' group pops up out of its cave. In The 'Couv, we have a good mix of White, Asian, Black, Middle Eastern (gulp) and Hispanic students. As someone who is bilingual, I realize the importance of teaching children a foreign language. However, I'm not down at monthly school board meetings, demanding that the schools cater to my children's special 'cultural needs' or teach them in Japanese for half the day. Nor does my wife insist on making Emperor Akihito's birthday a statewide holiday (as opposed to some 'communities' in Oregon who will soon get that commie Caesar Chavez crammed down their throats). Why is it that you NEVER, I mean NEVER see Asian students presenting themselves as 'victims of the system?' You will never see the school board in Portland tell the Afro-Hispanic Mafia that since people from China, Japan, S. Korea, Vietnam, Laos, etc., can come here and do well within a generation there is no need to create a special program for anybody?? The reason is that they are ballless pussies. Rather than state the obvious, the Portland school board curls up into the fetal position whenever the race-baiters snap their fingers. True, black students are often stuck in crappy schools in crappy neighborhoods (talk to the Democrap teachers unions about why they are so violently opposed to black students being able to choose their school - they're the ones holding them back). The next time I see a group of 'Hispanic students for educational equality' rallying in downtown Portland, I'm going to call the school board and make a logical suggestion. If they really do want a 'magic pill' solution for their shitty grades, we should pass a law requiring that Mexicano parents spend as much time and effort with their kids as Whites and Asians do. They could amend the law to require that these students think farther into the future than next weekend's gang initiation rape party. They could also (and I'm really going out on a limb with this one) insist that Hispanic students actually REFRAIN from having babies until they're out of high school. (OK, I knew I would push my luck eventually). Something needs to be done, and fast. If Portland schools continue to shorten their school years, according to their own so-called 'community leaders' the Homeys and Esses will have no choice but to go out and commit crimes. Apparently spending ones free time learning a skill or studying during the summer is just too goddamn white (again, Asians don't seem to say this, but the libs do have a convenient, albeit racist, theory about why Asians succeed - I'll have to tell you about that some other time).
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Social Science (2, Insightful)

fermion (181285) | about 5 years ago | (#27592943)

This is what fun about some reports on science. Given a set of data, one can always rank the data a state a conclusion even if there is no support for the data. This reminds of ads for safe cigarettes in which one cigarette had the least of certain substances.

Then we get to that ambiguous science, social science, where measurements are never what they seen. In this case there were no measurements, merely self reported data. This is not like an obesity survey in which on can measure a weight, a height, a gender, etc, and use a well know, if controversial, metric to determine a rate of obesity. No, in this case people self reported their state of happiness.

WebMD> which has a report with a list of states clearly indicates the problem with this strategy. The listed quote Participants were asked by phone how many of the previous 30 days their mental health -- including stress, depression, and emotional problems -- was "not good.", clearly indicates the issue. [webmd.com]

Imagine being asked "do you feel sad" and you live in Hawaii. Is the peer pressure to say yes or no? If you live in a state that is portrayed negatively in the media, and is always compared negatively with such wonderful places such as Hawaii, is there any incentive to say no. You live in a depressing place, you are told, so you have a right to be depressed.

This of course is why social science is called fake. I am sure the actual report has all the proper caveats, and the report is useful in terms of it indicates where the US might put services to help depressed people, but taking it too seriously, in my mind, would be a mistake. OTOH, I could see using it start a PSA campaign in Hawaii to help people who are depressed, but don't feel empowered to get help.

Re:Social Science (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593189)

I agree that social science is pretty fuzzy, and that it's difficult to directly measure happiness. And I agree that it's important to understand what you're measuring.

But if the study has valid statistics that indicate that people in Hawaii are more likely to say that they are happy then it is telling us something about people's behavior -- either people in Hawaii are really happier in an absolute sense, that people in Hawaii have different standards for what they consider happy, or that people in Hawaii are more likely to lie about being happy. I think you could even argue that, from a social standpoint, those three options are functionally equivalent.

Re:Social Science (1)

Brewmeister_Z (1246424) | about 5 years ago | (#27593233)

There are many other factors that can be worked in with the polling to give more insight into the reasons for one place having more depression than another.

Hawaii being lower is understandable without much explaining. However, the other states (I live in South Dakota) may have advantages when cost of living and city size is considered. Keeping that extra cash for fun things will help the mood and less time commuting and dealing with traffic is a plus too.

I would be interested to see this data in relation to cost of living to income ratio and population density.

Dear Kentuckians, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27592949)

I would advise you to read the uplifting comments posted in this thread by Hawaiians, but as they're all outdoors living wonderful lives on the beaches, I am sorry to inform you that the only comments you'll be finding in this thread are from depressed individuals such as yourself. :'(

Wow... what an insightful analysis (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27592997)

Way to ommit [time.com] what happened in the intervening years between the two surveys.

So people were happier before the 2 wars, 9/11, and dot-com bubble bursting than after 9/11, Iraq & Afghanistan, & 5 years of Bush deviciveness. What a shocker. Let me guess, these numbers are further down in surveys taken between 2H'08 & now (particularly in places like NY, Detroit, etc).

Sunlight? (1)

momerath2003 (606823) | about 5 years ago | (#27593047)

A big factor in emotion is the amount of sunlight you receive daily -- Seasonal Affective Disorder [mayoclinic.com] affects people up north a lot more than it does down south, for sure. I used to live in Texas, a full ten degrees of latitude further south than my current residence in Michigan. There is a lot more sunlight in the winter down there than up here. (It doesn't help that it's alway cloudy here, too.)

I have to fight to make it through the long, dark winter.

Re:Sunlight? (1)

frankgod (218789) | about 5 years ago | (#27593375)

I have SAD and am much happier now that I have moved somewhere sunnier. That's why it's surprising to see that the upper midwest does so well. I'd be miserable most of the year there.

Does it affect my mood? Hmm, you tell me. (1, Insightful)

Huntr (951770) | about 5 years ago | (#27593087)

I live in Florida and this place F'ing sucks.

Sounds about right (5, Interesting)

dave562 (969951) | about 5 years ago | (#27593089)

I live in Southern California. A few years ago I went to stay with some family in Milwaukee. I was there for about a week and one of the things that I noticed was how much more relaxed everyone was. The pace of life was really different. People seemed to take their time getting places and nobody really seemed to be in a big hurry to get anywhere. When waiting in line at places, there wasn't an urgency to get to the front. People took the time to talk to each other. It seemed like for the most part nobody had anything else better to do, and they were all living in the moment.

I had an interesting experience when I got back to LA. After I got off of the plane, I was walking through the airport at Wisconson speed and seemed like people were hurrying by me. None the less, my mind was still in vacation mode and I was enjoying the tranquil feeling that was still with me. I got my car out of the parking lot and proceeded to drive home. As soon as I had to merge onto the freeway, I felt the rush of the rest of the world catch up with me. All of a sudden my brain kicked into high gear. It was like a survival mechanism. There was no way I could deal with the 405 freeway while in the Wisconson mindset.

Conversely, I know people who have grown up in Southern California who then leave and hate where they end up. Almost universally, those who leave and miss California all say almost the same thing. "Everything here is too slow. There isn't enough to do." Personally, I can't wait to get out of here. I think the pace of life here sucks.

Re:Sounds about right (1)

Man On Pink Corner (1089867) | about 5 years ago | (#27593511)

I hate to say this, because we're full already, but you'd probably like Seattle. It's laid-back without being stultifying. We have most of the intellectual and cultural amenities you'd find in the LA area, but everybody drives like they're on the way to a tax audit.

Re:Sounds about right (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593521)

If you are going to leave, try Boise Idaho. Laid back pace with a decent city center and a lot of outdoor activities.

Re:Sounds about right (1)

wanker256 (803396) | about 5 years ago | (#27593875)

Oh, I remember you now. You were that slowpoke inching along at a snail's pace near baggage check 2. And sure enough, I got the luck to get stuck behind you on the 405. I almost broke my horn before you moved over to the right. Don't hesitate to move to Wisconson or whatever backwoods state you settle on. And pick up the pace while you're at it so that the door won't hit you on the ass on the way out.

Just one state down makes a difference (1)

Sowelu (713889) | about 5 years ago | (#27593107)

I moved from Seattle to Portland. One of my reasons was the better weather. People in Oregon laugh, but the weather really IS better than in Seattle; as a result, winters down here are a lot more tolerable than they ever were back home. Still waiting to see if that's going to last, but so far it's made a huge impact on my life.

Man, does it ever.... (1)

lenova (919266) | about 5 years ago | (#27593171)

I can attest to this. I've lived in Vancouver most of my life, and while I love this city, my personality shifts completley downwards during the fall & winter here (my doctor reckons it's S.A.D.).

I spent a year living in Australia, and talk about night and day.... a year whole spent feeling upbeat and positive. Then straight back to the same old ways when moving back to Van.

It's a shame, because I'm seriously considering permanently moving to a warmer/brighter climate next year, leaving behind the friends and family. It seems like a huge sacrifice, but man, I just can't hack these winters anymore.

Re:Man, does it ever.... (1)

frankgod (218789) | about 5 years ago | (#27593407)

You probably have SAD [wikipedia.org]. I have it real bad and I am greatly enjoying my sunnier new home. There are some things you can do to fight it but moving is by far the best solution.

If you can drink tap water and breath the air... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593173)

Say shhhhhh......

Missing from survey (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593179)

I'm from the Internet. How do I fare in this survey?

big map? (1)

cool_arrow (881921) | about 5 years ago | (#27593265)

Anyone have a link to the alleged cdc map? Took a quick look at the cdc site and don't see anything. Time magazine map is too small to see individual counties.

Seattle - Home of Depression (2, Interesting)

NaNO2x (856759) | about 5 years ago | (#27593293)

I am from Seattle and it is common knowledge here that weather has a relation to feelings. At one point the city was #1 for depression and it has been shown that this is because of the constant overcast weather. People have taken to sticking their heads in light boxes to relieve the depression.

Anyway, the point of all this is that the article was poorly written and is common sense. Also, it is sunny in Seattle right now and there are probably people who still have their head in a box.

Re:Seattle - Home of Depression (1)

djconrad (1413667) | about 5 years ago | (#27593673)

I am from Seattle, living on Southern California now, and I can't wait to get back to a place where, if the sun isn't in the process of slowly roasting you, there are actual fucking fires doing the job. Not to mention, the beer here sucks. I'm a 3rd generation Seattle native; I've been bred to the rain. SAD doesn't phase me. Wanna trade places?

The trickle down theory (1)

debrain (29228) | about 5 years ago | (#27593347)

Climate impacts mood, mood impacts culture, culture impacts economics.

That this isn't a universally known theory causes some concern.

Re:The trickle down theory (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593387)

that you manage to live in our society also causes me some concern.

Re:The trickle down theory (1)

Inominate (412637) | about 5 years ago | (#27593489)

Except TFA lists Minnesota, Wisconsin, and the Dakotas as being ranked close to Hawaii.

I'd suspect that the local industries are the prime factor behind these statistics.

Re:Widely known in another context (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593733)

Global climate warming changes mood to fearful. Fearful mood generates its own cult culture. Cult culture forces large expenditures of money for little gain. Everybody knows this.

So life in detroit (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593389)

Does, in fact, suck.
Suck the life and will to live right out of you, in fact. ...

We needed a scientific study for this? How about an episode of COPS instead?

Midwestern depression (1)

frankgod (218789) | about 5 years ago | (#27593431)

I grew up in southern Ohio and moved to the west coast. When I first got here I was really surprised how friendly everyone is. Appalachian people are generally pretty tough to get along with.

From "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance": (5, Interesting)

weston (16146) | about 5 years ago | (#27593481)

"Lonely people back in town. I saw it in the supermarket and at the Laundromat and when we checked out from the motel. These pickup campers through the redwoods, full of lonely retired people looking at trees on their way to look at the ocean. You catch it in the first fraction of a glance from a new face...that searching look...then it's gone.

We see much more of this loneliness now. It's paradoxical that where people are the most closely crowded, in the big coastal cities in the East and West, the loneliness is the greatest. Back where people were so spread out in western Oregon and Idaho and Montana and the Dakotas you'd think the loneliness would have been greater, but we didn't see it so much.

The explanation, I suppose, is that the physical distance between people has nothing to do with loneliness. It's psychic distance, and in Montana and Idaho the physical distances are big but the psychic distances between people are small, and here it's reversed.

It's the primary America we're in. It hit the night before last in Prineville Junction and it's been with us ever since. There's this primary America of freeways and jet flights and TV and movie spectaculars. And people caught up in this primary America seem to go through huge portions of their lives without much consciousness of what's immediately around them. The media have convinced them that what's right around them is unimportant. And that's why they're lonely. You see it in their faces. First the little flicker of searching, and then when they look at you, you're just a kind of an object. You don't count. You're not what they're looking for. You're not on TV.

But in the secondary America we've been through, of back roads, and Chinaman's ditches, and Appaloosa horses, and sweeping mountain ranges, and meditative thoughts, and kids with pinecones and bumblebees and open sky above us mile after mile after mile, all through that, what was real, what was around us dominated. And so there wasn't much feeling of loneliness. That's the way it must have been a hundred or two hundred years ago. Hardly any people and hardly any loneliness. I'm undoubtedly over-generalizing, but if the proper qualifications were introduced it would be true..."

Maybe the mood has something to with... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593591)

...income, wealth etc. stupid?

Looks aren't everything (3, Insightful)

rob1980 (941751) | about 5 years ago | (#27593627)

The Appalachian Mountains may look pretty, but a large survey from the Centers for Disease Control found those who live around them tend to be more prone to emotional problems.

Looks aren't everything. You know why Nebraska is the happiest state [mainstreet.com]? It isn't because you can throw a rock and hit an ear of corn, or drive outside of the Omaha/Lincoln areas and see nothing but flat fields for miles on end. This place is uglier than sin for the most part (save for a few choice spots like the Black Elk-Neihardt Park on top of the hill in Blair, for example), and the weather ranges from stupidly hot in July to inhospitably cold in January.

But you know what? The economy is stable. Nobody's given up their football tickets. Companies are gonna need call centers. It doesn't cost an arm and a leg to live in the city. The most crime-ridden spots in Omaha are a fucking day care center compared to other cities. It doesn't surprise me at all when TFA says that Midwestern states are ranked up there with Hawaii.

My mood... (1)

Khan (19367) | about 5 years ago | (#27593635)

...is a result of my wifes bitchy mood swings and my damn kids. Other than that, I'm LIVING THE DREAM, BABY! ;-)

Yeah, I think so. (1)

Jorophose (1062218) | about 5 years ago | (#27593653)

Winter here is extremely cold and summer extremely hot.

What I've noticed is that summer just feels unbearable some years (temperature doesn't always matter) and it makes me so much more agitated, and tires me out a lot faster. Right now it's 14C in the afternoon outside and I'm having trouble keeping cool, and it just makes me angrier for some reason.

Not just where, but who (3, Insightful)

owlman17 (871857) | about 5 years ago | (#27593751)

I guess its not just 'where', but who you live with. A lot of posters have said that living in picture-perfect, tranquil, warm, less-populated places would give them better moods. Living with a bitchy/unreasonable spouse and noisy kids, like what a poster said a few comments up will make all the difference regardless of where you live. Given a choice between an unpleasant place with nice people and the other way around, I'd almost certainly choose the latter.

Well duh.... (1)

BuhDuh (1102769) | about 5 years ago | (#27593769)

The phenomenon is well know and described here [wikipedia.org] among other places. Try living at 55N and above (where I was born) and you realize how geography can affect mental well-being.

MN, SD, and AZ (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 years ago | (#27593801)

I've lived in Minnesota, South Dakota (western & eastern), and Arizona, and it never ceases to amaze me how different lifestyles are from place to place. I think a lot of people's happiness issues could be solved by moving to a culture more suited to their personality.

I have SAD, and in MN/eastern SD I had horrible winter time depression. Just moving to western SD where the sun shines through most of the winter made an incredible difference!!! I really liked the winter time there, at least as compared to Minnesota. The culture there also suited my tastes better. SD has a very low population density, which makes a difference, and like another poster mentioned earlier about Wisconsin, the pace of life is much slower and more relaxed. People there were always friendly, you could easily strike up a conversation with the guy next to you in line, and random folks would look out for you if you were in a bind. That's amazing.

However, even though SD is sunny, my ancestry is from the middle-east and I am physically designed for a warm climate. Moving to Arizona was the ultimate realization of my American-continent destiny. :) I have never been happier.

In the end, what I'm trying to say is, listen to what your body and mind are telling you. If you don't like where you're at, think hard about WHY you don't like it, and try to find a place that suits you better. If you don't like it, you can always go back.

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