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Zombie Macs Launch DoS Attack

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the but-wait-you-told-me dept.

Security 757

Cludge writes "ZDNet has a story (and several related articles) about how Symantec has discovered evidence of an all-Mac based botnet that is actively involved in a DOS attack. Apparently, security on the exploited Macs (call them iBots?) was compromised when unwary users bit-torrented pirated copies of iWork 09 and Photoshop CS4 that contained malware. From the article: 'They describe this as the "first real attempt to create a Mac botnet" and note that the zombie Macs are already being used for nefarious purposes.'"

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Are you sure... (5, Funny)

tacarat (696339) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605347)

... that somebody didn't do it the old fashion way and post that the website host said bad things about Steve Jobs?

Re:Are you sure... (5, Informative)

imamac (1083405) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605583)

The really funny part is that you could download the full version from Apple for free as the "demo" just needs a serial number.

Re:Are you sure... (5, Funny)

tacarat (696339) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605681)

But getting it off a torrent makes you a l337 ninja haxor.

Instant Karma... (5, Insightful)

shmlco (594907) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605691)

No, the funny part is that the users who torrented and installed pirated copies of iWork 09 and Photoshop CS4 got exactly what they deserved. Instant karma.

Re:Instant Karma... (0)

imamac (1083405) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605733)

Indeed.

Sigh (3, Informative)

Presto Vivace (882157) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605349)

the end of innocence for Apple users.

Re:Sigh (2, Insightful)

telchine (719345) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605413)

I can almost hear the words of denial from the Mac Fanboys already. I can't hear the exact words, but I can sense the general whine.

Like any other UNIX OS, OSX is less vulnerable to such attacks than Windows, but it's far from immune. The truth is that a Mac is less likely to be targetted because it's a minority operating system.

If your intention is to create a large botnet, you are of course going to target the most popular operating system. Rightly, or wrongly, by most metrics, Windows is the most popular OS. That's why people rarely bother try to create a botnet from macs.

I suspect that this botnet has been created by a geek that is sick to death of uneducated Mac fanboyism, and in a small way, I have respect for that.

A small part of me wants OSX to become a majority OS, just so I can see Mac fanboys eat their own words!

OSX is a reasonable operating system whose reputation is ruined by technologically uneducated users :(

Re:Sigh (2, Insightful)

nysus (162232) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605467)

Technologically uneducated users? Can you explain to me how, at the last developer's conference I attended for an open source CMS, Apple users outnumbered IBM clone users by probably 3 or 4 to 1?

People who speak in generalities and think only in generalities. Problem is, that's not how the world works.

Re:Sigh (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605485)

People who speak in generalities and think only in generalities. Problem is, that's not how the world works.

It does work that way, in general.

Re:Sigh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605541)

Because Apple fanboys like Web2.0 Go to OSCon or HOPE where it really counts and see how many Apple users are there

Re:Sigh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605651)

You develop for the iPhone? ;-)

Re:Sigh (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605719)

"Technologically uneducated users? Can you explain to me how, at the last developer's conference I attended for an open source CMS, Apple users outnumbered IBM clone users by probably 3 or 4 to 1?"

Since you consider using a CMS to be "technologically savvy", I think you give your own answer... it's only you probably won't like it.

What will be next? Considering mathematicians those that use a calculator?

I've got your denial right here. (5, Insightful)

earnest murderer (888716) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605489)

Purposefully installing malicious software does not indicate a vulnerability. The user intentionally installed a piece of software that is doing exactly what it is designed to do.

There isn't an operating system on the planet that can protect you (or itself) from fraudulent user activity.

Re:I've got your denial right here. (4, Insightful)

SpitfireSMS (1388089) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605607)

They didnt purposefully install the malicious software
That would be like saying IE is safe, and its the users fault for purposefully clicking the "Install ActiveX" button that happened to install malware.

If the operating system was as safe as the crazy fanboys claim, it wouldnt have been able to install malware in the first place.

Not that im claiming that *any* OS is safer than any other, im justing saying OSX did NOT protect the user.

Re:I've got your denial right here. (3, Informative)

shentino (1139071) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605611)

Unless you consider TPM to be an operating system implemented in hardware...

But...

"anyone who trades X for security deserves neither, and shall lose both".

Education is the only way to resolve this, really. But find me a user who is patient enough not to veto such an education with his wallet.

The company that caters to the user's whims the best wins, and to hell with wisdom with a slow but steady ROI.

Re:I've got your denial right here. (5, Insightful)

bagorange (1531625) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605647)

i have a mac and i think this is embarassing denialism...... people did not purposefully install malware. No one says, "I know! I'll install some malware to make my computer a zombie." They installed a downloaded copy of an application and it had malware hidden in it. That malware was able to run on their computer without their knowledge. This is not a very different vector from most windows malware. Telchine is right; macs are not invulnerable, they are less vulnerable than windows.

Re:I've got your denial right here. (5, Insightful)

xav_jones (612754) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605655)

Mod parent up. No OS can protect you from deliberately installing malware. Getting your software from an untrusted source and then giving that software install and admin rights on your machine is not a sign of a defective OS. Just a defective user.

Re:I've got your denial right here. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605667)

Which is exactly how most Windows users get infected with malware, as well.

Re:Sigh (2, Insightful)

coryking (104614) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605523)

Like any other UNIX OS, OSX is less vulnerable to such attacks than Windows

This is simply unproven for all the reasons outlined in your post. Until you see *UNIX widely deployed as a "desktop" OS, all claims that UNIX is inherently more secure than Windows are nothing but untested theories.

Wake me up when *UNIX has 50% of the desktops and then we can debate which operating system is more secure.

Re:Sigh (Hey hey hey hey hey) (1)

JumpDrive (1437895) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605715)

This is simply unproven for all the reasons outlined in your post. Until you see *UNIX widely deployed as a "desktop" OS, all claims that UNIX is inherently more secure than Windows are nothing but untested theories.

Which is exactly the point we were trying to make about Vista SP2, in a previous thread. So what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

At least *nix variants have been around longer. And I can say from my own experience that since switching to *nix, my uptime and productivity have greatly increased.

I'm sure though that symantec will find a botnet on linux as soon as they have a product that works on linux desktop systems.

Re:Sigh (5, Funny)

Chabil Ha' (875116) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605555)

If your intention is to create a large botnet, you are of course going to target the most popular operating system.

Not exactly. You're going to target the lowest hanging fruit. Which (no pun intended) is steadily becoming an Apple.

Re:Sigh (1)

Vexorian (959249) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605693)

Hmnn +5 insightful grats. However, that misses a point, no vulnerability in the OS was exploited. The hackers didn't just installed the root kit by sending code to the some port. They fooled the users into giving the virus root access and installing it. Even the most secure and correctly designed OS would fail against this. The only 'vulnerability' here is that the user is able to install software in the computer...

Re:Sigh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605749)

Ya know pot, we kettles appear to be just as black as you are! asshole!

Re:Sigh (5, Insightful)

l0ungeb0y (442022) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605415)

What the hell are you talking about?

Malware ie: trojans have been around for ages. This has nothing to do with the overall security of the OS and everything with the security threat the user is to themselves.

Re:Sigh (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605505)

the end of innocence for Apple users.

Young whippersnappers don't know their history. Back in the day (1980s/early 1990s), macs were FAR more vulnerable to viruses than PCs.

Why? The primary mode of transmission was infected floppy disks. On a PC, you could open the floppy drive and take out the floppy whenever YOU want - just push the (physical) eject button. On macs, the eject function was under software control, and you would get your floppy whenever your mac was willing to give it to you. Mac viruses would delay the eject until they had fully infected the floppy.

May I be the first to laugh (-1, Flamebait)

rueger (210566) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605365)

... and laugh and laugh... Oh, we're Mac users - we don't need stuff like virus and malware checkers! Now, let the explanations begin about how this is a wonderful intuitive "feature" and not a flaw.

Re:May I be the first to laugh (1)

samriel (1456543) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605379)

... and laugh and laugh... Oh, we're Mac users - we don't need stuff like virus and malware checkers! Now, let the explanations begin about how this is a wonderful intuitive "feature" and not a flaw.

Whoever actually believes that is retarded. I have two software firewalls, a hardware firewall(router), anti-virus, anti-malware, and anti-spyware on my Mac, same as on my old PC. I didn't get infected on PC, and I'm sure as hell not going to get my Mac botnetted.

Re:May I be the first to laugh (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605465)

Man, I run Vista and I don't have any of that (built-ins are disabled). I only have virus scanning done on a weekly basis, and somehow despite not having forty pieces of software dedicated to second-guessing me I still don't have any viruses or malware.

Simplest thing anyone can do is train the thing between the chair and the keyboard.

Re:May I be the first to laugh (1)

Reality Master 201 (578873) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605499)

Hear hear!

If you do common sense things - like not running random software from the internet, keeping your machine patched, and turning off unnecessary services - you don't need anti-virus software running constantly.

The problem is, computers are widely owned by people who don't know about how to use them safely and often act as if they can't be bothered to learn.

Re:May I be the first to laugh (2, Insightful)

coryking (104614) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605547)

How would they even know what to learn in the first place?

often act as if they can't be bothered to learn

And rightfully so. If the damn thing needs that much care and feeding, it is defective and should be returned!

Re:May I be the first to laugh (1)

WCguru42 (1268530) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605565)

Amen. I ran a windows computer of my own for four years and I ditched the anti-virus within about a month. If you're intelligent about your computer use you really don't have to worry about much at all. Fun little trick, I changed my main directory from c:\ to k:\ and that seemed to immediately and drastically decrease the chance of malware/spyware/etc. It seems they hardcode a lot of the directory information and not having any drive with c:\ worked quite nicely. I run a mac now and I still don't use AV software, no point.

Re:May I be the first to laugh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605735)

I have been free of any anti virus and any viruses since Vista's RC release (now on win7)
I keep mine at E:\
Heres to agreeing =]

Re:May I be the first to laugh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605581)

I'm curious - how do you know you've not got a virus if you don't run an AV scan to check?

Re:May I be the first to laugh (1)

coryking (104614) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605757)

how do you know you've not got a virus if you don't run an AV scan to check?

How do you know you have a virus when the first thing any virus or malware worth its salt does is disable the virus scanner? Virus scanners do nothing but slow your system down in exchange for giving you a very, very false sense of security. I would never trust a virus scanner to tell me I had a virus. If your system got 0wned, you are well and fucked; you can't trust anything on it, even (and especially) the virus scanner.

No sir, I've never ran a virus program and don't plan to in the future. The best "virus scanner" is knowing what shit should be running on your computer and what shit shouldn't. If you see any suspicious process, consider it a red-flag. Oh yeah, and "explorer.exe" is listening to several ports, has 4 dozen TCP/IP sessions open, and is checking random POP3 mailboxes, you might have a problem too. A virus scanner wouldn't have detected any of it though, because the virus scanner would have been 0wned too.

Re:May I be the first to laugh (4, Interesting)

jamie (78724) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605431)

From what we know so far, apparently the botnet was created by a trojan and does not spread.

I'm a Mac user who doesn't run applications downloaded from completely untrustworthy sources like pirate p2p networks and you're correct -- I don't need a virus or malware checker.

Re:May I be the first to laugh (3, Insightful)

Whiney Mac Fanboy (963289) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605493)

I'm a user who doesn't run applications downloaded from completely untrustworthy sources like pirate p2p networks and you're correct -- I don't need a virus or malware checker.

Fixed that for you.

Re:May I be the first to laugh (3, Insightful)

MadUndergrad (950779) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605525)

Sorry, how does conficker spread again?

Re:May I be the first to laugh (2, Funny)

guyminuslife (1349809) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605703)

Witchcraft, demons, and bad karma.

Re:May I be the first to laugh (1)

derGoldstein (1494129) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605557)

I know this will be laughed at, but I'll post it anyway:

I've been running Vista on several computers since around 4 months after it launched, and on some of them I *do* run p2p software. I have anti-viruses on all of them, and not *once* have I ever detected anything.
If you keep windows up to date, and you _know-how-to-use-a-computer_, you're not in any more danger than Mac users.

Don't download/run executables from untrustworthy sources, don't download *any* executables from p2p networks, and don't use IE.
Apart from that, it's the usual: Don't open attachments, be aware of phishing, and don't parade around warez sites (at least not with scripting turned on).

Now go ahead, get it out of your system...
"ZOMG! He's using VISTA! BAN HIM!!"

Re:May I be the first to laugh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605625)

I downloaded them but I made sure not to pick the versions with the malware first ..

Re:May I be the first to laugh (1)

MoonBuggy (611105) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605539)

As a poster mentioned above, it requires the user to manually install the trojan.

What I'd be interested to see is how OSX/Vista/XP/Linux stack up in terms of "security when user is not a moron" tests, actually. Take an average Slashdotter's machine: patched up to date, probably using Firefox, won't feel the need to install the latest smiley pack from evilhax0rz.com/CuteSmileysLOL, more likely to be running as a limited-permission user day to day, and so on. Are any of those machines likely to be compromised at all? If so by what vector? It'd pretty much have to be a worm or stealthy malware - both of which are (I would guess) going to raise flags with the savvy user on any modern OS by forcing a permission box to pop up.

Re:May I be the first to laugh (1)

coryking (104614) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605603)

with the savvy user on any modern OS by forcing a permission box to pop up

Assuming the worm/malware is stupid enough to raise said flags. The goal is to avoid that kind of thing and use exciting local privilege escalation exploits.

Stupid Hackers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605369)

Don't they know that Macs are impregnable? All of the stories over the last decade about how Macs don't get viruses prove it.

Re:Stupid Hackers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605469)

Darn Microsoft and their stupid Windows. This wouldn't happen on a Mac. Oh, wait...

Re:Stupid Hackers (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605653)

Except, this isn't a virus.

Anyway, macs don't viruses, mostly because there are close to none.

A matter of time (5, Interesting)

Fwipp (1473271) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605385)

I always wondered when those pirated copies of software would be become malware vectors. Maybe the quickest way to stop software piracy is through evil copies of legitimate software.

Re:A matter of time (5, Informative)

despisethesun (880261) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605459)

Virus infected warez have been a fixture of the PC world for well over a decade now, if not longer, and it hasn't really made a dent in piracy.

Re:A matter of time (2, Funny)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605673)

Maybe the quickest way to stop software piracy is through evil copies of legitimate software.

Microsoft already tried this and now their OS run/gets copied on more machines when ever!

it just... (5, Funny)

BloodyIron (939359) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605389)

it just... BBRRRAAAIINNNNSSS

B-b-b-but... (1, Funny)

Kawahee (901497) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605391)

"UNIX is impossible to exploit!"

I find it amusing that in this case it appears the inability to run Photoshop on Linux is a good thing.

Re:B-b-b-but... (1)

Whiney Mac Fanboy (963289) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605573)

I find it amusing that in this case it appears the inability to run Photoshop on Linux is a good thing.

But you can [luiscosio.com] . Not sure if the malware will run however. Hopefully, one day wine will get compatible enough to be able to run windows viruses.

Just trolling (1)

SpitfireSMS (1388089) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605659)

Photoshop cs2 and cs3 work with wine =)

Re:B-b-b-but... (2, Insightful)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605685)

No exploits necessary when the user download and willingly installs the application.

I'm on a Mac (2, Funny)

russlar (1122455) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605393)

I use Mac, and I love it! Macs never get vi

NO CARRIER

Re:I'm on a Mac (1)

BloodyIron (939359) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605435)

That's too bad. I hear vi is a good tool to have.

Re:I'm on a Mac (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605543)

It's worse than just not having vi(m)... ...they have emacs!

Re:I'm on a Mac (5, Funny)

Fwipp (1473271) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605437)

Hey, I happen to like vi, you insensitive clod!

Re:I'm on a Mac (1)

kms_one (1272174) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605487)

I'm pretty sure vi is installed by default on all OS X Macs.

No Story!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605397)

I don't understand why this is a story.
Its just another set of hackers with a different equipment.

FUD (-1, Troll)

BadAnalogyGuy (945258) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605401)

I suppose it was just a matter of time before someone tried to imply Macs as the victim of a virus attack.

The fact of the matter is that the Max OS (BSD, doncha know) has very strict user permission levels. This gives it a strong protection mechanism against unwanted programs running without the user knowing.

Essentially, this makes it impervious to viruses. Even trojans are thwarted because smart users (Mac users) don't execute programs they don't know the origin of.

Re:FUD (4, Insightful)

Mashiki (184564) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605445)

Sounds like someone has their panties in a twist. You might forget that strict permission levels don't imply security when the person behind the keyboard is an idiot.

Re:FUD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605711)

Doesn't require that the user is an idiot, just that they are not computer-savvy. Which is the exact audience Macs are marketed to.

Human beings are part of the security equation. If your security model requires more expertise than your typical user actually has, then it's a crappy security model.

Re:FUD (2, Insightful)

tacarat (696339) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605511)

Essentially, this makes it impervious to viruses. Even trojans are thwarted because smart users (Mac users) don't execute programs they don't know the origin of.

No computer system can withstand prolonged exposure to idiot owners. Macs are no exception. Your statement only confirms that :D

Re:FUD (1)

CatOne (655161) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605521)

What do you mean, FUD? A trojan sure can run, and the article notes it IS running. There are no checks against trojans that run with user permissions. Heck, you can even schedule them to run at startup.. easy as pie!

If a user is an idiot, they can get malware on a Mac. Viruses are tough, but trojans are a cinch (I'm rusty, but could come up with a shell script in a few minutes and set +x on it and there you go). Linux would be just as easy.

So it's not FUD. Mac users who are not savvy can certainly get malware. If you know what you're doing, and stay away from P2P or other downloads you can't identify as "good," you're fairly safe (more so than unpatched Windows, for sure). But you're not immortal, and this article is proof of it. Even if it is from a fearmonger with self-interest like Symantec.

Re:FUD (1)

ScentCone (795499) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605545)

this makes it impervious to viruses

Methinks thou dost protest too much.

It doesn't matter if "it" is impervious. Users are not. If they want to install and run a poison app. Not if they are so anxious to pirate commercial applications that they're willing to hold their breath and hope that the nice guy in Romania who is "sharing" his kindly cracked copy of CS4 would never, ever do anything naughty. Not if they're just stupid app users who bought a Mac because everyone promised them they'd never have to ever ever worry about such things, and that false sense of security makes them willing to run anything that's handed to them, because, gosh, nothing can hurt them and their magic Mac.

Re:FUD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605609)

Your argument is incredibly flawed because I know just as many idiots (in a computer sense) who run Macs as PCs... mainly for the reason that they're "hip" or "look cool/cute/shiny".

Re:FUD (1)

aliquis (678370) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605713)

Most mac users aren't very smart, of course there are exceptions (I run a mac your insensitive clod!)

I know well where this torrent would come from, TPB or demonoid, and I'm willing to use plenty of torrents from both sites.

Silly Users (1)

actionbastard (1206160) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605403)

W4r3Z are for hackers!

But the iZombies have .... (3, Funny)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605405)

But these iZombies have such cool eye-candy the Windoze and Linux could never catch up in the cool factor in a million years!

Hey, what a surprise (4, Insightful)

Reality Master 201 (578873) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605419)

If a user is tricked into installing malware on a machine, the machine is infected with malware.

It's a shame people think Macs are somehow magically protected against viruses and other nasty computer stuff, merely by virtue of the manufacturer and operating system. It's probably more of a shame that Apple has, in the past at least, marketed Macs as being (more?) immune to viruses than PCs - something which somewhat true, but only for statistical reasons.

It's like STDs - if you're careless and go sticking your junk everywhere without taking precautions, you'll probably catch something cruel, eventually.

Re:Hey, what a surprise (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605709)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but a trojan doesn't qualify as a "security issue" on the part of the OS. If a trojan succeeds in compromising the system, it's the fault of the user, not the OS.

Re:Hey, what a surprise (5, Funny)

Zen Programmer (518532) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605745)

It's like STDs - if you're careless and go sticking your junk everywhere without taking precautions, you'll probably catch something cruel, eventually.

That's why I run Linux. Running Linux pretty much rules out any possibility of having sex, and hence any chance of contracting an STD.

Um (4, Funny)

Card (30431) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605429)

So does this mean that Macs are finally Enterprise Ready?

Somebody cue up the Mac commercial... (3, Funny)

joocemann (1273720) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605433)

Mac: Hi, I'm a mac!
PC: Im a.. *cough* PC...
Mac: Oh, you must be sick? Well I can't get sick.
PC: really?
Mac: (whispers) "Nobody knows I got HIV"
PC: Ahhhh... I just got a cold
Mac: See! I don't even have a cold!

Linux. (3, Funny)

RichardJenkins (1362463) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605441)

The obvious solution is to switch to Linux, because everyone knows it has no viruses and never will.

I SAID NEVER WILL.

Re:Linux. (1)

Whiney Mac Fanboy (963289) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605517)

The obvious solution is to switch to Linux, because everyone knows it has no viruses and never will.

Silly. There's always been malware for linux. However, the lack of (much) commercial software means piracy is one less vector for infection.

Re:Linux. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605637)

Whoosh!

Re:Linux. (1)

jwdav (1003969) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605537)

However, IF Adobe made CS4 for Linux, and IF you P2P downloaded it and installed it, you too could have this Trojan on Linux.

Most Open Source downloads offer checksum validation - I wonder how many people actually validate what they download?

Re:Linux. (1)

mrphoton (1349555) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605595)

How is this moded as funny. How many viruses do you know for Linux. I mean real viruses, not ones that somebody got going on one distro by disabling SElinux and typing in the root password twice. Real viruses like oh I don't know conficker for example. I can never see this happening on Linux because:

1. If the software you download has been altered with some odd code, yum will pick it up because the check sum will be wrong.

2. see above.

Re:Linux. (1)

pohl (872) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605729)

You're probably right. Linux is safe until it gets a $79 commercial software package that people want so badly that they'll steal it...which could be a long, long time.

iBots? Bit-Torrented? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605471)

Shut the FUCK UP!

iZombies (5, Funny)

mc1138 (718275) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605515)

A botnet that just works.

Re:iZombies (5, Funny)

WiseWeasel (92224) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605753)

Attack Different.

All You Zombies Hide Your Faces (1)

davidwr (791652) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605519)

All you Zombies [guntheranderson.com] Hide Your Faces [wikipedia.org] .

unlikely (1)

TRRosen (720617) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605561)

I really doubt this particular trojan could form much of a DDOS attack. It is a poorly hidden and pretty simple to find and dispose of code, and its presence was found quickly and quite was well known.

Re:unlikely (4, Funny)

chill (34294) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605689)

What do you expect? It had to find a black turtleneck, offer some snide, unasked for criticism of your iTunes playlist, and order a double-whip, half-caf, non-fat latte before deciding which port was cool enough to grace with its packets. It may not be very effective, but it looks FABULOOOOOOOOOOOOUS!

in other news bullet placed in gun actually fires (2, Insightful)

ScaredOfTheMan (1063788) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605575)

Seriously? A download, installed, and password prompting program is a vulnerability?

That must mean that apple's Remote Desktop is a huge vulnerability. Giving the attacker complete control of the victims system, and the ability to execute remote code! Oh the horror! Oh the humanity!

Time to Celabrate! (3, Funny)

get_your_guns (1380583) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605579)

MAC users should be rejoicing around the world! What this actually means is that hackers are noticing MACs are gaining in population and and they see profit in targeting them. What's going to fall next, Rome?

Finally a first port on the Mac! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605591)

Take that, PC gamers!

About Time... (1)

johnshirley (709044) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605639)

It's about time Macs were brought into the fray of malicious software. As a Mac Fanboy, I'm tired of feeling left out.

Re:About Time... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605739)

I know, right? All the years and years of frustration I've missed out on. Endless boxes Frankensteined together so I can play the newest shooter games instead of going out and getting laid. Constant system re-installs and learning how to 5p377 L1k3 th15.

Boy o boy. Now I can get the "real" computer experience.

No such thing as a free lunch. (1)

Neanderthal Ninny (1153369) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605657)

As the saying goes, "There is no such thing as a free lunch".
If you don't know where it came, then don't download it.
There is no such thing was an absolutely secure system since the user can override the security features.
Another saying, "Intel inside, idiot outside"

Common Sense (1, Flamebait)

guppysap13 (1225926) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605683)

As a lot of people have probably mentioned already, how is it Apple/Mac OS X's fault that malware was installed on the computer? The malware is a program after all, which was given administrator privileges when the pirated iWork was installed. It didn't exploit anything; the user installed it manually. The same thing could happen on Linux/BSD for pirated programs that are binary-only. Same goes for any MSOffice for Windows from TPB.

Re:Common Sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605743)

The same thing could happen on Linux/BSD for pirated programs that are binary-only. Same goes for any MSOffice for Windows from TPB.

That's why your supposed to read the comments!

take that faggots (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605705)

macinfags just got shit on.

Quality of posts (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27605707)

It's a shame that the level of intelligence and knowledge of the posters to Slashdot seems to still be in decline.

I would think that anyone who wants to use this "revelation" as some kind of troll against OSX would at least be able to differentiate between a virus and a trojan.

There's a decent chance there will be some kind of unpatched OSX vuln that will be exploited ala what you see on a Windows machine, but until then you should just stew in silence and wait for your opportunity to post your "See OSX is no better than Windows" messages and then you wont look like such ignorant fools.

If you can install software on a computer, you can install software that is malware as well. I doubt anyone can fault Apple for allowing end users to install software that they choose to install.

Genuine question... (1)

NoNeeeed (157503) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605717)

I'm a Mac user and I'm looking around for some virus detection software. Do any other Mac users out there have any positive experiences of the current crop of malware/virus software available for the mac? Any recommendations? Anything to stay clear of?

All my experience with PC virus software has been pretty negative, background processes that gobble up entire cores and half your memory, reducing the machine to a gibbering wreak. I'd like to run something I can pretty much ignore (other than making sure that it is up to date). Even AVG, which used to be fantastic, is now a terrible resource hog.

While it is still the case that macs are much less likely to get hit by malware, and there are currently no known examples of a self-propagating worm that doesn't require a stupidity/carelessness on the part of the user (that I'm aware of), things are getting a little more dangerous. It would be nice to be prepared, hubris is a dangerous thing.

Hmnn (1, Flamebait)

Vexorian (959249) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605723)

So, you can infect OS/X computers after manipulating a program and tricking an user into voluntarily installing the malware!

I am surprised! Although of course, it would be more impressive if it was like in windows 98 in which connecting to the internet rendered you vulnerable. Or how about a more recent example in which you just had to plug a USB drive? Sorry but it still sounds very easy to fill a windows computer with viruses in comparison with this.

Outing One's Self - PRICELESS (1)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 5 years ago | (#27605747)

The blogger who reported this perhaps didn't realize that he had just outed himself as a warez user.
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