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Ubuntu 9.04 Released

CmdrTaco posted more than 5 years ago | from the gentlemen-start-your-torrents dept.

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Mohamed Zaian writes "Canonical, the commercial sponsor of Ubuntu, announced today that Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop Edition is free to download from Thursday 23 April. Also announced were the simultaneous releases of Ubuntu 9.04 Server Edition and Ubuntu 9.04 Netbook Remix (UNR). Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop Edition delivers a range of feature enhancements to improve the user experience. Shorter boot speeds, some as short as 25 seconds, ensure faster access to a full computing environment on most desktop, laptop and netbook models. Enhanced suspend-and-resume features also give users more time between charges along with immediate access after hibernation. Intelligent switching between Wi-Fi and 3G environments has been broadened to support more wireless devices and 3G cards, resulting in a smoother experience for most users."

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Ubuntu (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27686845)

Meow?

Questions from an 8.10 user (5, Funny)

hattig (47930) | more than 5 years ago | (#27686885)

Does it preload the "Gnome" menu yet, or do you still get that annoying pause when you first click on it?

Does the lovely dark Dusk theme work with Gnome 2.26?

Will it kill off hardware VIA graphics (HP 2133 netbook) like the last kernel upgrade, or does it now handle these properly as a third party binary blob?

Will it give me free beer and hookers?

Re:Questions from an 8.10 user (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687153)

Linux just isn't ready for the desktop yet. It may be ready for the web servers that you nerds use to distribute your TRON fanzines and personal Dungeons and Dragons web-sights across the world wide web, but the average computer user isn't going to spend months learning how to use a CLI and then hours compiling packages so that they can get a workable graphic interface to check their mail with, especially not when they already have a Windows machine that does its job perfectly well and is backed by a major corporation, as opposed to Linux which is only supported by a few unemployed nerds living in their mother's basement somewhere. The last thing I want is a level 5 dwarf (haha) providing me my OS.

Re:Questions from an 8.10 user (3, Informative)

suso (153703) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687223)

Do you make this comment everyday or something?

http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1208265&cid=27678699 [slashdot.org]

Re:Questions from an 8.10 user (3, Funny)

orkybash (1013349) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687391)

You'd think for something he's planning to reuse he would at least put in the effort to proofread it...

WHAT!!! Ubuntu 9.04 Released? (3, Funny)

Philip K Dickhead (906971) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687433)

You mean the charges didn't stick?

The courts are rigged!

Re:Questions from an 8.10 user (1)

viralMeme (1461143) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687629)

"Do you make this comment everyday or something?"

It's his job, when ever Linux is mentioned he has to say 'not yet ready for the desktop'. It's the technological version of monkeys throwing shit ..

Notifications (5, Informative)

CrispBH (822439) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687277)

Seems generally more stable, I've been running the RC for a couple of days now. Not many immediately noticeable changes but lots of improved under the hood support. Beware if you have an older ATI card you might run into problems.

Anyway, the thing I'm really not sure of is the notifications system. Just about the only option with them seems to be to change their positioning via gconf-editor (and even that seems to be broken). I understand the philosophy behind them (see http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/253 [markshuttleworth.com] ) but they seem to be a little too unconfigurable, even for Gnome. Their black appearance would suit the KDE default theme, but it certainly doesn't fit in well with my much lighter Clearlooks theme in Gnome and there's no way to change that. One of the things I like about Gnome is the integrated look and feel of the entire system, whereas these stand out oddly. There is no way to dismiss them, so things get irritating when I want to use the search bar in Firefox and there's a notification covering it (these things could well be click transparent but it's still irritating). There is no way to configure what gets displayed as a notification either; I don't think I need each and every Pidgin message to be displayed as a notification for reasons of both privacy and distraction. To me, the notifications system seems a little too much like an answer looking for a problem. I may well disable them soon, after giving them a fair trial. The only sane way to do that seems to be to remove the notify-osd daemon. So much for ease of use!

That all said, it's my only major gripe with the upgrade, and that system was always going to be controversial. Hopefully it grows and improves. If not, I'm not forced to run it. Overall, this seems to be a steady incremental release that smoothes over a few rough patches and should hopefully do me well for another 6 months. Ubuntu is still the only distribution that I have not had very regular problems with on the desktop.

Re:Questions from an 8.10 user (5, Funny)

orkybash (1013349) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687373)

Will it give me free beer and hookers?

Free as in speech, silly.

Re:Questions from an 8.10 user (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687393)

Yes, it does come with the ability for free beer and hookers. However you have to steal the beer for it to be free and the hookers cost a small fortune. It is also one of the few ways you can pick up a virus.
Other wise it works pretty well in my opinion.

Preemptive Godwin (0, Offtopic)

dsginter (104154) | more than 5 years ago | (#27686889)

Hitler!

There.

Now we can have an objective conversation about how much GTK sucks.

Jaunty (5, Interesting)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 5 years ago | (#27686899)

Jaunty Jackalope may be the poofiest name for an Ubuntu release yet, but this is the first one since the Dapper Drake (Also quite poofish) to actually improve Ubuntu's stability. Unfortunately GNOME has boned the network manager (well, we got this one in Intrepid, it was extremely nonintuitive then and it's the same now, and it's still too retarded to handle bridging) and the gnome-panel which is now a mandatory application. Also the logout panel is now stupid, you can have logout options or shutdown options but you can't have both at once. Let's all hear it for Ubuntu for making the system more stable, and let's all give GNOME a big raspberry for their constant attempts to take GUIs into the last century. (KDE still looks like the kitchen sink exploded on my desktop... but anyway.) I do have one gripe, though: Will you guys please decide on a strategy for audio? I'm getting tired of having to follow PulseAudio's PerfectSetup document, why don't y'all try reading it sometime? Not that pulseaudio came with Jaunty; too bad audio didn't work right without it.

Re:Jaunty (3, Insightful)

zbharucha (1331473) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687169)

Just use XFCE. You won't be sorry.

Re:Jaunty (1, Insightful)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687381)

I already tried it and was already sorry. I run a million billion GTK+ apps so the major reason to run XFCE, not loading all those libraries, doesn't apply to me. I've tried Kubuntu too, just in case anyone was wondering. For all its faults, I still believe GNOME is the best desktop on Linux today — I just think it's headed in the wrong direction. Perhaps one day KDE will kill the clutter and then I'll switch.

Re:Jaunty (3, Informative)

ameyer17 (935373) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687653)

Except XFCE is GTK+ based, so you get those libraries loaded whether you run GTK apps or not.

Re:Jaunty (3, Informative)

mhall119 (1035984) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687677)

I already tried it and was already sorry. I run a million billion GTK+ apps so the major reason to run XFCE, not loading all those libraries, doesn't apply to me.

XFCE is GTK, so I don't quite understand what you're saying. If your apps just depend on the GTK libs, and not Gnome libs, then XFCE is a good choice for you.

Re:Jaunty (3, Insightful)

Hurricane78 (562437) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687719)

Please NO. I hope KDE never ever ever kills that, what you call "clutter". Because we people, who tend to *really* *use* their computers, and configure them, hate one-button apps with so configurability at all, and everything at a default that is just riiiiight... for retards.

In my eyes, the only problem you (non retard, but does not want to configure every shit) users have with KDE, is that you are forced trough huge configuration menus.
I think it's very easy to make everyone happy. Just separate the settings in "user", "advanced" and "expert" in a sensible manner, and (*very important*) choose the presets very wisely for your target group. (This has to be done by the KDE developers for the general default. By the distributors for their target group. And by a company admin for the people in that company.)

Then average people like you can still use it, and be happy, because it just works.
And we power-users can tweak it until it fits like a glove.
Or everything in between.

How about that? :)

Re:Jaunty (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687397)

This. I started using XFCE recently, and I've been really happy with it.

Re:Jaunty (5, Funny)

kazade84 (1078337) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687185)

So the stability of a release is proportional to the campness of the name? Excellent, so the plan is...

1. Create a distro called Fluffy Fairy
2. ???
3. Profit!

Re:Jaunty (4, Funny)

Kentaree (1078787) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687337)

There should be a way to tag individual posts as NSFW, not because of unsuitable content, but more because I look like a moron when I burst out laughing at comments like these in the middle of the office.

Re:Jaunty (1)

mhall119 (1035984) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687705)

In that case, I have high hopes for Karmic Koala.

Re:Jaunty (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687195)

I highly recommend wicd [sourceforge.net] . It works, it doesn't auto-connect to wired networks (I sometimes wish that were a checkbox option though), it lets you use external programs (WPA drivers, DHCP Clients, Wired Link Detection, Route Table Flushing) and best of all, it allows you to set up scripts to run on connect, disconnect, and/or pre-connect (absolutely fantastic for laptops+cifs/pppoe/etcetera). The only downsides are that it's not in the default repos, it's got a very lazy security implementation (it runs the script manager as root when strictly speaking it doesn't need to), and it's basically just a glorified python script. But it's still miles ahead of NetworkManager/KNetworkManager.

Re:Jaunty (2, Insightful)

SgtPepperKSU (905229) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687235)

Jaunty Jackalope may be the poofiest name for an Ubuntu release yet

That is probably why that isn't the name of the release...

Re:Jaunty (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687649)

Jaunty Jackalope may be the poofiest name for an Ubuntu release yet.

That is probably why that isn't the name of the release...

Correctness FAIL [ubuntu.com]

Jackalope (0, Offtopic)

navyjeff (900138) | more than 5 years ago | (#27686903)

I triit's fast as fast can be, you'll never catch me!

Obligitory (5, Insightful)

Rik Sweeney (471717) | more than 5 years ago | (#27686905)

Don't forget Kubuntu [kubuntu.org] ! It's got KDE 4.2 now!

Re:Obligitory (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687039)

Yeah no one cares.

Re:Obligitory (1)

UnRDJ (712762) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687253)

Except me. I'm running it on my desktop and laptop. Torrenting it as we speak.

Re:Obligitory (2, Funny)

TurboNed (1370389) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687593)

Torrents is illegal [sic]! Didn't the [MP|RI]AA teach you anything?

Still the same color scheme (0, Troll)

Uglypug (1309973) | more than 5 years ago | (#27686913)

Still poop-brown I see. I thought I was hearing about them moving away from the brown theme a while back?

Re:Still the same color scheme (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687063)

They announced they're changing the color scheme in the Jaunty+1 release.

Re:Still the same color scheme (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687085)

Well, try Kubuntu [ubuntu.com] then - refreshing blue style.

Re:Still the same color scheme (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687421)

The software is still shitty, so its almost like it's still brown.

Re:Still the same color scheme (1)

Fackamato (913248) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687135)

Yeah, the brown theme really isn't very appealing... What is this dark theme I keep hearing about? Is it just the one from Ubuntu Studio? (I don't like that - not integrated good enough)

Re:Still the same color scheme (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687219)

You're probably referring to Dust [ubuntu.com] , which isn't really a dark theme. There's also the Darkroom theme, but it's been around for a few versions now and it looks like ass.

Re:Still the same color scheme (1)

SECProto (790283) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687267)

well enough*

Re:Still the same color scheme (1)

Umangme (1337019) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687399)

That I believe will happen later this year. [ubuntu.com] Shuttleworth announced that for the Karmic Koala (9.10) Ubuntu. No promises for Jaunty.

Just installed ... (5, Informative)

sygin (659338) | more than 5 years ago | (#27686915)

Love the encrypted home folder option. Default disk burning application has improved. Faster boot, seems faster overall (newer GCC?). Well done to all involved.

Re:Just installed ... (4, Funny)

Rik Sweeney (471717) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687441)

newer GCC?

Nope, they just added -O3 to the compile options :)

Netbook Remix 4 EeePC 900? (3, Interesting)

BayaWeaver (1048744) | more than 5 years ago | (#27686951)

Can it boot persistently from the SD of my Eee PC 900 and will the wifi just work out of the box? Have never been able to get any of the earlier releases to do these two things.

Re:Netbook Remix 4 EeePC 900? (4, Informative)

uncle slacky (1125953) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687159)

Use eeebuntu instead - no problems at all with wifi (unlike with the stock Xandros POS).

Apparently they're working on a new version based on 9.04.

http://www.eeebuntu.com/ [eeebuntu.com]

Re:Netbook Remix 4 EeePC 900? (4, Informative)

mtm_king (99722) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687377)

Did you mean http://www.eeebuntu.org/ [eeebuntu.org] ??

Anyone else try this with an Eee PC 901?

Re:Netbook Remix 4 EeePC 900? (1)

Taibhsear (1286214) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687613)

Any idea when the new version is supposed to be released?

Re:Netbook Remix 4 EeePC 900? (1)

Rhys (96510) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687261)

I can't answer for the 900, but I've got netbook remix loaded off the install key on my 901 and it is doing fine so far. WPA2 wifi connectivity looks a heck of a lot better than in easypeasy or with the older array.org kernel/modules.

Happy Ubuntu-Day, everyone! (5, Informative)

troll8901 (1397145) | more than 5 years ago | (#27686969)

I just came from IRC (irc.freenode.net #ubuntu-release-party). It's like the Times Square New Year Party in there.

On the clock at about 1 pm GMT, the Ubuntu website was updated, and the servers at ubuntu.com were immediately IRCdotted.
And now, we're going to Slashdot Ubuntu.com as well!

Get your torrents at
http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ [ubuntu.com]

Re:Happy Ubuntu-Day, everyone! (5, Funny)

xmason (206262) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687037)

Intratube Police: A .torrent? Why, this must be a pirated version of "ooh-bun-too", whatever that is. You, sir or madam, are a CRIMINAL and will be put in jail with RAPISTS and BABY KILLERS!

Re:Happy Ubuntu-Day, everyone! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687699)

You, sir or madam, are a CRIMINAL and will be put in jail with RAPISTS and BABY KILLERS!

Yow!

Re:Happy Ubuntu-Day, everyone! (2, Interesting)

meringuoid (568297) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687247)

Get your torrents at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ [ubuntu.com]

Is there a torrent anywhere of the netbook remix? I'm downloading that from Canonical UK at the moment and it's not exactly quick. There seem to be torrents for every other release, but not that one. Oversight?

Please.... (5, Informative)

kazade84 (1078337) | more than 5 years ago | (#27686993)

Firstly, can we get an Ubuntu icon yet?

This release is awesome, I've been running it on my laptop, desktop and work PC for some time and it's been rock solid.

That said. There is one VERY VERY annoying thing that changed in this release. The update notification icon is no longer there unless you fiddle around with gconf. Instead you are treated to an automated "pop-under" launch of the full update manager window once a week unless it's a security update in which case it's 2 days. I dunno if this behavior has changed recently but that was the design a few weeks ago.

So that means:
a.) You probably wont know about feature/bug updates for a week.
b.) You probably wont know about security fixes for 2 days (even if it's urgent)
c.) You will get a window appear out of nowhere behind all your current windows launched seemingly by itself (yeh coz that's not gonna scare Windows migrants)

What a great idea! NOT!

P.S if you wanna revert to the old behavior, run gconf-editor. Go to apps->update-notifier and uncheck "auto-launch".

Torrents (1)

Taimat (944976) | more than 5 years ago | (#27686999)

Listed towards bottom of page... http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ [ubuntu.com]

Re:Torrents (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687101)

As in previous years, you can also retrieve the torrent files directly from:

http://torrent.ubuntu.com/, or
http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/ ... which should remain available even if the primary mirrors stop being responsive under load, as has happened for previous releases.

Re:Torrents (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687329)

omg, don't pirate Ubuntu plz :(

Re:Torrents (1)

0100010001010011 (652467) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687331)

7MB/s.... Wow. Just Wow. I was planning on grabbing them and seeding, but I never expected them to come this fast. Hopefully I can return the favor.

Looks like all the 'fat' lines are .se or .pl people. Thanks Europe!

When does it stop becomming better? (1)

spineboy (22918) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687009)

At some point computers will be good enough, that it will be more work to upgrade it than it is to use it.
Ubuntu really is becoming quite easy to use - still some wackiness with 64 bit computing, and Flash, but otherwise pretty dang easy.

Re:When does it stop becomming better? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687341)

It keeps being better, but at install HAL didn't detect my Wacom Grapphire mouse, but anyways it thought it was good enough to comment away all my mouse configuration in xorg.conf, leaving me mouseless and no clue of how to interact with Gnome (by trial and error, I found that Alt + F1 allowed me to access the main menu).

Also, for some reason, during the update my linux partition got mounted as read-only and, of course, there was no obvious way to edit the fstab file to fix it. I managed to do it after reading the man pages and spending several hours fixing the other things that broke, but I'm pretty sure that the average user would rather uninstall the damn thing... if they knew how.

Re:When does it stop becomming better? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687709)

If Linux developers would grow some balls and make some decisions, and stop replacing every critical system component every twelve months instead of improving what they already have, perhaps we'll actually reach that point. Good luck with that though.

Hey anyone know what the default audio stack is in this release?

Nigbuntu (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687047)

Linux for Savage Nigger Beasts

saw it in firehose (0)

i.r.id10t (595143) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687067)

Saw it in the firehose, been waiting, so I've been torrenting for a while already this morning.

Even if you don't code, etc. this is a good way to help the F/OSS movement - share your bandwidth!

Re:saw it in firehose (1)

Pulzar (81031) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687371)

Bah, I'd love to, but my ISP is throttling torrents. I'm lucky if I can get 5KB/s upload and 30KB/s download :(.

Better luck next time. (2, Interesting)

senorpoco (1396603) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687083)

I installed the release candidate last week, and it lasted for all of 25 minutes before it ate my desktop. I love being on the bleeding edge, but it doesn't make life easier or more productive, just more interesting.

Re:Better luck next time. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687443)

I installed the release candidate

There's your problem

Fix the intel graphics bugs yet? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687097)

I realize it's mostly the fault of Intel, but it would be nice if the modern (2 years old) Intel chips worked well with Linux.

I went with Intel instead of Nvidia in my laptop so I would have a more stable computer than using the binary blog nvidia provides. (and I don't game) Boy, had I known Intel would totally drop the ball I would have went with Nvidia. Ubuntu doesn't seem to be interested in pushing the issue at all, saying 'it's an upstream problem'. I got burned the same way with the g400 and it's so called open source drivers a decade ago. It took them almost 4 years to get them out the door, and they sucked when they were out.

It's a real sad the best video support on linux is from closed source nvidia drivers and their competitors don't even care.

Check out the list: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bugs [launchpad.net]

So, back on topic, does anybody know how horrid Intel video is in this final release? I need to decide if I'm going to upgrade or not, last I heard it's even worse and locks up after a few minutes. I have an x3100/GM965.

Re:Fix the intel graphics bugs yet? (1)

diegocgteleline.es (653730) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687499)

Intel works fine here. Nvidia is years behind when it comes to stability and integration

Re:Fix the intel graphics bugs yet? (1)

incripshin (580256) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687721)

Good for you. I also hate nVidia's Linux drivers. So much so, I will never get nVidia again. I am the unlucky owner of the GeForce Go 6200, which nVidia completely neglects. In Linux, it's impossible to suspend/switch-to-console/kill X/unload the module. In Windows, there is no Vista driver at all, and the only XP drivers that work are old and unstable.

At this point, I would gladly take a slower Intel chip over nVidia.

Re:Fix the intel graphics bugs yet? (1)

je ne sais quoi (987177) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687551)

Don't kick yourself too hard: NVIDIA's drivers have been terrible lately too. It's almost like a conspiracy or something. I just recently bought a new nvidia graphics card and, I can't get sync to vblank running unless I have a composite manager running. The only problem is running a composite manager makes the X window manager unstable because NVIDIA and the people writing the composite managers can't communicate or agree on the correct way to do this or something. I never quite got it straight, something about NVIDIA insisting on rewriting some libraries in X and the composite managers using non-standard calls or something like that. It's a huge clusterfuck.

Another big issue is the powermizer thing that NVIDIA forces everyone to use. It scales the video card frequency depending on what it's being required to draw. The only problem is that is refuses to scale up the frequency rapidly unless an openGL object is being drawn and won't play nice with a composite manager. I haven't tried it, but recent kde has huge screen flickering problems because of this, and even just drag and dropping text in firefox causes it. The only workaround is to add some lines to your modules.conf to fool the powermizer into staying high power mode (which is fine for me because I use a desktop, but laptop users are SOL).

Anyhow, just to make comment slightly On Topic, congrats to the Ubuntu team! Even as a non-user of Ubuntu, I greatly appreciate their efforts to bring linux to everyone. Let's hope they start making a profit soon!

Re:Fix the intel graphics bugs yet? (3, Interesting)

MarcQuadra (129430) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687617)

I've been using Linux on integrated Intel chipsets since the i810 driver came out and I have no complaints.

I had no complaints with the i810, the i815, the i915, the G33, or the G45 that I currently use. There was one Ubuntu release where the resolution setting didn't match the documentation, so I had to enter some manual stuff into xorg.conf, but before and since then, things have been gravy.

A lot of these bugs look like they're for things that I can't give good marks to -any- drivers, like switching displays on laptops, enabling compositing on ancient chips (really?! why bother!) and other foolishness.

Really, Intel doesn't make great 3D graphics chips, everyone knows that. If you actually want fast 3D, pick someone who fabs hardware that can handle it. The Intel -drivers- on the other hand, are hands-down the most supported and functional open-source drivers that I've used.

Intel not only releases the specs for their hardware, they sponsor the development of the drivers in a totally open-source-friendly way.

If you have complaints about 3D in Linux on integrated Intel graphics chipsets, you'll probably have the same complaints about 3D in Windows on Integrated Intel chipsets. Intel isn't in the mid-to-high-end market, they make excellent 2D chipsets that do 3D 'well enough' for casual non-gaming use.

...Free? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687117)

is free to download from Thursday 23 April

Wait wait wait wait... these guys actually CHARGE for Ubunghole? I thought that went against everything users of Teh Lunix believed in. So why so much love and rave reviews for a non-free version of Teh Lunix?

Or is this just a stupid marketting ploy, saying something is free on one day, but neglecting to add that it's free on every other day as well?

Re:...Free? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687289)

Check your own quote. "Free to download FROM Thursday" ...

so its free to download from then onwards, not just then. And I've no intention of getting into a "but was it free before then?" debate. Its targetting it at teh windows & mac users.

the trolls are out in force (1)

viralMeme (1461143) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687533)

"Wait wait wait wait... these guys actually CHARGE for Ubunghole?"

There are now three ways for you to get Ubuntu. Just choose the delivery option that works best for you: * Download now - Download the Ubuntu, * Buy on CD or DVD, * Request a free CD [ubuntu.com] ..

I'm holding out for Ubuntu 10.10 (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687139)

Which will undoubtedly be named Masturbating Monkey.

You need an adjective, not a verb. (1, Informative)

GungaDan (195739) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687603)

Masturbatory monkey is just plain wrong. Please try again. I vote malicious millipede. Maybe menopausal mongoose.

Re:I'm holding out for Ubuntu 10.10 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687717)

just afer Licky Lion

Still Brown? (3, Insightful)

Henry V .009 (518000) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687143)

Weren't they going to ditch the brown already? I thought I read a Slashdot story about Ubuntu getting a new theme that doesn't attempt to inspire retching subliminally.

Re:Still Brown? (0, Flamebait)

EveryNickIsTaken (1054794) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687221)

..that doesn't attempt to inspire retching subliminally.

As if the release name didn't already do that? "Jaunty Jackalope"? Wow. Nice work guys. Way to really try and make Linux go mainstream.

Re:Still Brown? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687355)

..that doesn't attempt to inspire retching subliminally.

As if the release name didn't already do that? "Jaunty Jackalope"? Wow. Nice work guys. Way to really try and make Linux go mainstream.

Oh...and I suppose "Snow Leopard" sounds heterosexual to you?

Re:Still Brown? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687359)

Uh, that isn't the release name. "Ubuntu 9.04" is.

Re:Still Brown? (1)

Umangme (1337019) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687489)

Well, here I go once again:

That I believe will happen later this year. [ubuntu.com] Shuttleworth announced that for the Karmic Koala (9.10) Ubuntu. No promises for Jaunty.

Re:Still Brown? (1)

mrsteveman1 (1010381) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687523)

Antiemetic Antelope, but you'll have to wait a while we're still on the first run through the alphabet.

Re:Still Brown? (1)

Vorpix (60341) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687545)

Weren't they going to ditch the brown already? I thought I read a Slashdot story about Ubuntu getting a new theme that doesn't attempt to inspire retching subliminally.

if you don't like it you can change from the default theme with like 3 clicks. seriously, there are bigger issues to deal with than this.

What's new - the usefull and the not so usefull (5, Informative)

Umangme (1337019) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687299)

Major changes:

  • Improved boot performance. It may just breach 20s on newer systems.
  • GNOME 2.26. (I don't think there are many changes to look out for)
  • OpenOffice 3.0. Hopfully this has a better interface than 2.4.
  • New notification system. Looks good in Shuttleworth's video. This is possibly the biggest improvement in the average user's eyes. I'm looking forward to seeing it in practice, but I have a feeling that they'll actually work well only in Karmic.
  • Ext4 Support. It will be the default in Karmic. Filesystem support should affect the average user, so nothing new for the average user here. Many people are still on ext2, and may still be when Karmic comes.

The Jaunty overview [ubuntu.com] should be put on the main page of Ubuntu.com. It really is pointless making that page otherwise. Instead an Ubuntu tour [ubuntu.com] for 9.04 is the main link from the website. That tour really doesn't make Ubuntu sound like a very advanced OS.

Though I haven't upgraded to Jaunty as yet, I don't believe it is something the average user should get excited about. Karmic may.

internet (1)

kallisti5 (1321143) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687311)

"oh look, Internet is at the door" -- Ubuntu mirrors.

Apparently still has video issues (1)

jspenguin1 (883588) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687323)

I think I'll wait to upgrade until they fix the Intel video driver -- almost everyone with the 965 chip has had problems.

Or I could just get a new laptop with an AMD or nVidia chip...

Sweet (1, Insightful)

not already in use (972294) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687349)

What is the big deal with boot times?? Really?? With all the catching up to do in the desktop arena, this is what they're focusing on?? No wonder desktop Linux has fizzled out. What a joke. You have a display manager that doesn't have a proper driver model, the only decent driver is a blob that is a hack to bypass x.orgs own facilities to get full blown acceleration, and they're focusing on BOOT TIMES??

Re:Sweet (1)

diegocgteleline.es (653730) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687555)

You have a display manager that doesn't have a proper driver model, the only decent driver is a blob that is a hack to bypass x.orgs own facilities to get full blown acceleration

I'm using a display manager with a proper driver model. You probably mean the pre-GEM drivers...

Re:Sweet (1)

kazade84 (1078337) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687559)

You're right. How dare those hardcore graphics driver developers over at X.org down tools on Gallium3D [wikipedia.org] to work on Ubuntu's boot time....oh wait...

Re:Sweet (1)

Zantetsuken (935350) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687583)

Actually a lot of people seem to think it will help to get people to switch from Windows, assuming that long boot times particularly with Vista has people annoyed... You know, for those times when you wanna turn on your laptop for some school or professional work, but have to go get a coffee first because no matter which OS you use on that brand new hardware it still boots slow...

Re:Sweet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687607)

What is the big deal with boot times?? Really??

Get yourself an EeePC 701 and then get back to me. They're designed to be cheap and portable.

There's not really enough room on the SSD for a suspend partition (especially if you upgrade the RAM) and the CPU is underclocked to 600MHz for efficiency.

Maybe you're happy to twiddle your fingers for two minutes while the thing boots up each time you want to quickly check something or take a note on the train etc, but it drives me to distraction.

Though crap, Xandros takes something like 15 seconds from hitting the power button to being usable. Switch it to a full desktop and it takes about 40 seconds. Install a full-blown Ubuntu installation and you're talking 1:50 to 2:30 depending on how much you optimise it.
I'm currently running CrunchEee, which takes about 55 seconds but has a package selection, unlike Xandros.

For a server or something you can afford to keep running 24/7, yes, boot time is low on the list of priorities. For a netbook (currently the only growing PC market IIRC), boot time is very much an important factor. I think you'll find it's no coincidence that they started to optimise it now that Netbooks have become so popular.

Re:Sweet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687627)

not everyone wants to work on the proper driver model, and theres no reason to stop working on other areas until one area is perfect.

forcing everyone to work on one thing is a ridiculous suggestion. i appreciate short boot times, so thank you guys and don't listen to 'not already in use'. keep up the good work.

No joke, their marketing sux! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687361)

t is a great release with a lot of cool new features, but I have one very unlikely complain.

Canonicals marketing is not very good.

When Novell and Red Hat release a new version you find all cool new features on their webpages.

Not so for Canonical, for example Dustin Kirkland did an amazing job with screen profiles, where screen essentially becomes the window manager for the Ubuntu server and it displays interesting infos (like EC2 costs, avail. updates, mem usage etc. etc. etc.)
It is very easy to configure and a real win for every Ubuntu server admin.

No word about it on any of their websites. That is kinda funny, because a lot of people say Canonical is mostly great in the marketing department.

Busy servers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687401)

Well, the ubuntu mirrors are pretty busy here.

I've just syncronized mine and will be added to official list in next hours so... If you want to download the new isos before everyone know it, use ubuntu.ictvalleumbra.it. There are 100 mbit waiting the next hours hell.

FUSA (1)

jimshatt (1002452) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687459)

I dislike how FUSA (the Fast User Switch Applet) also has IM status and shutdown options. And that the shutdown options from the system menu are removed when you use FUSA. But at least you have a choice not to use FUSA. Other than that, very good stuff!

Call me old but... (2, Insightful)

clickclickdrone (964164) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687487)

Having 'Remix' in an operating system's name is a big turnoff. It immedietely marks it as nerdware and is going to cause most 'normal' users to balk at the idea of going near it. Sometimes Linux really does shoot itself in the foot.

Microsoft snatches publicity crown from Ubuntu (5, Funny)

David Gerard (12369) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687527)

In a stunning public relations coup, Microsoft Corporation (NASDAQ: MNPLY) has successfully overshadowed today's release of Ubuntu Linux 9.04 "Jaunty Jubblies" [today.com] by announcing its failed financials for a fourth quarter in a row and laying even more people off.

Microsoft announced new and expanded roles for remaining key executives as another several lesser, losing quitters deserted upper management. "It shows the fantastic opportunity available to everyone at Microsoft to climb seven or eight reporting levels up the org chart," said marketing marketer Steve Ballmer to pitchfork-wielding Wall Street analysts today. "If we haven't laid them off for making too much money or not kissing enough ass."

The Yahoo! deal is expected to go ahead. "We figure they'll go broke before we do. Probably." Mr Ballmer also plans to run the Yahoo! servers on Windows NT rather than FreeBSD after a similar change worked so well at Hotmail. "Some say synergy's another word for two plus two equals one, but you just have to make the value of one work for you."

Windows 7 betas have been greeted with remarkable positive press. "Of course, the betas preview the 'champagne and hookers' edition, which would be way too much for netbooks and explode users' brains. Imagine thinking those little things are computers! So we're releasing what we call Windows 7 Dumbass Edition. It lets you log in and look at the shiny. Even Spider Solitaire has the ribbon toolbar! And you can buy an upgrade to the version that runs programs! It lets you do that!" Dumbass Edition comes with pre-installed viruses to make the computer part of the Storm, Conficker and FBI botnets. "If you can't beat ’em, join ’em."

However, Microsoft has indicated to its press corps, Microsoft Completely Enderlependent Analysts, to ixnay on the evensay and highlight the job openings for work on Windows 8, firmly penciled in for a 2012 release. Windows 8 will be optimised for low-end 32-core systems with a mere 16 gigabytes of memory — 28 cores for the interface, 3 cores for the DRM and one core for everything else. "Seven is just so this year. I hear they'll get $DATABASE_FILESYSTEM done next release for sure!" said ZDNet marketing marketer Mary-Jo Enderle. "It'll be awesome!"

"I'm sure it'll be fine, fine," said Bill Gates, upping his hours at his charitable foundation and scheduling the sale of several more packages of Microsoft stock.

Larry Ellison of Oracle, who recently purchased Sun Microsystems, merely snickered, muttered "Java. OpenOffice." and let out a long and resounding laugh.

Mark Shuttleworth of Canonical, speaking from his castle on a crag high on a mountaintop in west London, was sanguine at Ubuntu's news being overshadowed. "I lost ten million dollars on Ubuntu last year. I'm losing ten million dollars on Ubuntu this year. I expect to lose ten million dollars on Ubuntu next year. At this rate, I'll be broke in ... sixty years."

I've been using this for a month (3, Informative)

revjtanton (1179893) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687581)

Jaunty Jackelope is certainly worth a download. I've been using it on my eeePC 900 with the Ubuntu Netbook Remix (UNR) for a month and while its got its shortcomings, overall its the best OS I'v used with my netbook.

The greatest plus is Ext4. I know that isn't an Ubuntu exclusive upgrade or anything (Fedora 11 is going to offer the option of installing to a Ext4 partition) but combine that w/ my SSD and I boot in like 23 seconds flat...I don't even bother "putting the pc to sleep" since I boot so quick, I just shut down.

The downfall that I found with this release, and Intrepid Ibex, is w/ the eeePC hardware and graphics tiling. Basically the kernal being used in the release candidate has some issues threading the graphics processing and you get signifigant and annoying lag in the UNR interface...but only there. If you open any app it runs as normal, but the UNR interface lags like a son of a bitch. A patched kernal update did fix this however that fix was reverted due to other issues and as of yet a new kernal patch addressing all issues has not been released. You and review the details of the bug here [launchpad.net] . The .41 kernal is what is shipping and the .40 kernel is what works w/ the eeePC. If you want to install your own kernel you can get the .40 here [launchpad.net] .

The use of Ext4 makes this a true upgrade and a reason to install a new build. Enjoy!

Not Sure Whether To Laugh or Cringe... (1)

iateyourcookies (1522473) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687589)

Heheh. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cringe over the Jonas Brother's being featured on the "tour" slideshow.
http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/904features/ [ubuntu.com]

Genuine indication of real-world interest or too much South Park? ;)

A great release (1)

AnibalOjeda (936222) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687601)

Ive been using Jaunty since alpha3 & as lot people say, its rock solid! i got a quad core intel machine where running this version of Ubuntu on 64 bits takes my computer to another dimension. Wel done!

Quite a few stability improvements! (1)

TheLeopardsAreComing (1206632) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687621)

Today was the first time everything worked out of the preverbal box! I have owned an Inspiron 1526 for more than a year and have installed ubuntu since 7.10 (and just about every other popular distro). The reason why I got rid of 8.04 was because it would cause a kernel panic when connecting to a wireless network using CA certification... not the case. I used to have to explore the reaches of the internet to find drivers and tutorials for the HDMI hookup... both video and sound worked without a hitch! Loving this upgrade!!!

Why a Server Edition? (2, Interesting)

DiegoBravo (324012) | more than 5 years ago | (#27687631)

At least in my country and LATAM in general, I think the Server Edition only could thrive if Oracle Server can be certified at some time. As each day pass on, this looks more difficult.

In general, I fail to understand the Canonical offering of Ubuntu Server compared to CentOS/RedHat Servers (or even Suse).

Ubuntu is unusable garbage (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27687641)

For all the freetards do, they still can't equal the ease of use of Windows. It's the universal corporate standard for a reason. Canonical's shit-colored desktop doesn't work.

Don't take my word for it--download the live CD yourself and try it. If you like it better than Windows I'll eat my own ass. (It'll be the color of Ubuntu.) If everyone tried the CD they'd see how bad it was. Windows advocates do download it and know how badly it sucks.

Go on, mod me down, Canonical shills--but you can't hide how much your system sucks forever.

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