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Klingons Cut From Final Star Trek XI Movie

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the gravest-importance dept.

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darthcamaro writes "Classic era trek was all about Kirk kicking the Klingons' tails. But the new Star Trek XI movie, the reboot, will not have any spoken Klingon in it — a travesty that has some fan sites up in arms already. 'We actually had a sequence that ended up getting cut from the movie that took place on Rura Penthe, in a Klingon prison,' Star Trek co-writer Alex Kurtzman said, explaining the deletion. 'And there was definitely Klingon spoken in the movie, and it ended up getting cut.' Frakkin' Federation ..."

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who cares? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27778301)

fp ftw, hu-man!

Re:who cares? (5, Funny)

cashman73 (855518) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778337)

As long as they don't replace the Klingons Gungans with Jamaican accents, we're cool! ;-)

Re:who cares? (1)

Devout_IPUite (1284636) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778691)

Here I've always found wookies to be way more annoying vocally than gungans.

Re:who cares? (5, Funny)

xerxesVII (707232) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779189)

No kidding. Chewbacca always struck me as very dog-like with his speech. He was practically incapable of whispering, and it looked like it caused him great physical discomfort to hold his tongue. I'm sure he was a good friend to have in a pinch, but sometimes you don't need your friends gargling every half-formed thought that flashes through their brains.

What's the Klingon phrase for... (5, Insightful)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778317)

"Get a life"?

Re:What's the Klingon phrase for... (5, Insightful)

idontgno (624372) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778359)

tlhap yIn!

(per http://www.mrklingon.org/ [mrklingon.org] ; java applet warning!)

Re:What's the Klingon phrase for... (5, Funny)

Lemmy Caution (8378) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778491)

"Get a life" in Klingon. Brilliant.

Hello, T-shirt!

Re:What's the Klingon phrase for... (4, Insightful)

Criliric (879949) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779127)

why hasn't anyone thought of this?

Re:What's the Klingon phrase for... (3, Funny)

cptnapalm (120276) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779147)

What is most awesome about this post is that it only took TWO minutes between someone asking for a Klingon translation and one being provided.

Re:What's the Klingon phrase for... (4, Insightful)

timeOday (582209) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778501)

Especially since the deleted scene will probably appear in the "deluxe director's cut" DVD anyways.

Re:What's the Klingon phrase for... (1)

dragonard (261270) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778975)

Free translation: I should cut you down where you stand!

(But then, that's a free translation for most spoken Klingon.)

Travesty? (4, Insightful)

cheebie (459397) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778331)

Oh dear God.

The original Trek only rarely dealt with the Klingons. It was more about the crew exploring the unknown.

This is just a fanboi snit.

Re:Travesty? (5, Insightful)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778411)

I gotta agree. While the MOVIES generated from the original series dealt pretty heavily with Klingons, the actual TV series didn't go much into it. And TBH, the Klingons of the original TV series were pretty uninteresting IMHO. The change that they started going into the movies and more or less finalized moving into TNG made them far more interesting. Also, to a whole ton of fans from the TNG-onward days kinda view the Klingons as buddies of the Federation. Seeing them put back into a negative light just wouldn't be interesting to me.

Re:Travesty? (5, Insightful)

eln (21727) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778471)

Weren't the Klingons in TOS basically just bad-tempered humans? They didn't develop the weird growths on their foreheads until much later. They were basically just a poorly fleshed out analogue for the Soviet Union.

Re:Travesty? (4, Informative)

Dolohov (114209) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778635)

Yeah, most of the aliens got "facelifts" in the animated series, as I recall.

Re:Travesty? (1)

tjstork (137384) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778645)

See I really liked the Klingons in TOS and thought they sucked ever since.

I remember watching the Star Trek TMP in the movies, and I was like "w.t.f did they do with the Klingons"..

Re:Travesty? (4, Funny)

pallmall1 (882819) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778679)

They didn't develop the weird growths on their foreheads until much later.

Those growths are why the Klingons are called clit-heads, or vulva-faces. Without those features, the Klingons wouldn't have any personality or geek popularity at all.

Re:Travesty? (4, Informative)

catmistake (814204) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779047)

The actual cannon is, I believe, that the growths were always there on the Klingon's foreheads, but during the short time period of TOS (?4 years), there was a fashion trend that was popular among Klingons to flatten their foreheads. Worf says at some point in DS9 (the other tribbles episode) that "we do not speak of it," so it was apparently an embarassing trend that they try to forget (think about all the straight-laced former hippies burning pics of themselves out of embarrassment).

Re:Travesty? (4, Informative)

MPolo (129811) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779159)

I think "Enterprise" expanded on this, and had the smooth-headed Klingons resulting from a genetic disease, caused by trying to implement human Eugenics techniques. The disease was cured, but the physical results remained, and took many generations for the Klingons to get rid of them.

Re:Travesty? (5, Informative)

hardburn (141468) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779179)

It was explained away in the last season of Enterprise. A rouge human researcher in genetic engineering had made some superhumans, and Klingons wanted the tech, too. So they copied/stole the research and ended up implanting themselves with human DNA. The changes went viral, and soon affected the entire Klingon race. They presumably found a fix some time in between TOS and the first movie.

Re:Travesty? (1)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779235)

It was a failed experiment - this was explained in Enterprise episodes "Affliction" and "Divergence".. the cure for The Levodian flu made its unfortunate victim look exactly like a TOS klingon.

The reason Worf says they don't speak of it is it was extremely embarrasing for them.

(Yes I realize it's just a lame excuse for them looking different in the later series, but if you're going to quote canon...)

Re:Travesty? (3, Insightful)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778879)

Actually, closer to the Mongols than the Soviets. One of the ideas floating around in sci-fi of the time was the "space barbarian" or "space mongol", an archetype who could operate space ships, but couldn't build new ones, had to rely on captured peoples, etc. The Klingons definitely look like a stereotype of Mongols, including the warrior culture.

Re:Travesty? (2, Funny)

Nyckname (240456) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779035)

At a con back in the day, someone asked James Doohan about the ridges. His reply, in his best Scottish accent, was "Remember those tribbles we beamed over? Allergies."

Re:Travesty? (1)

TurboNed (1370389) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779045)

Were they even an analogue for the Soviet Union before Star Trek VI?

Re:Travesty? (1)

hardburn (141468) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779289)

Yes. A Private Little War [memory-alpha.org] is a direct reference to US-Soviet proxy wars. Both Klingons and Romulans fit the analogue in their own ways.

Re:Travesty? (1)

Stopher2475 (780930) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779149)

They actually explain that in the "Enterprise" series. There was a plot line that had those human looking Klingons being genetically engineered and it was going to take a few generations to get back to their "normal" phenotype.

Re:Travesty? (1)

Haoie (1277294) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778933)

Only in TNG did Klingons get a sense of honour and what not.

In TOS, they were thinly veiled Mongol types.

Re:Travesty? (3, Informative)

afabbro (33948) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779029)

I gotta agree. While the MOVIES generated from the original series dealt pretty heavily with Klingons, the actual TV series didn't go much into it.

If memory serves, the Klingons were featured in these episodes:

  • Errand of Mercy - John Colicos, baby!
  • Friday's Child
  • The Trouble With Tribbles
  • A Private Little War
  • Day of the Dove

In addition, the appeared periphrially in "Elaan of Troyius" and "The Savage Curtain" (I don't think the Kahless in that episode even spoke).

So, 5 major appearances in 79 eps, plus a couple small mentions.

And TBH, the Klingons of the original TV series were pretty uninteresting IMHO.

They were certainly one-note, though some of the episodes listed above used them to good effect. There certainly was not the kind of cultural exploration we saw in later series, that's for sure.

Re:Travesty? (1)

Murpster (1274988) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778487)

Wouldn't describe myself as a trekkie, but... from what I've seen, the original Trek was mostly about Kirk and Spock flying around space and kicking ass, blowing shit up, and fucking green and blue chicks... and the doctor going "Im a doctor, not a ___!" Wasn't the whole Klingon language thing not even made until many years after the original Star Trek was off the air? Who cares. Trekkies are dweebs. Get lives, or whatever it was Kirk said.

Re:Travesty? (1)

Chaos Incarnate (772793) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779111)

A Klingon language first appeared in Star Trek: The Motion Picture, but wasn't fully fleshed out until Star Trek III: The Search for Spock.

Re:Travesty? (2, Interesting)

bigstrat2003 (1058574) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778503)

Yeah, I'm surprised that TFA is all worked up about the loss of Klingons (which is kind of a shame), but seems to be OK with the fact that the new movie, from all they've shown us so far, is a mindless sex and violence movie. That's the real travesty: turning Trek into that. Those are entertaining movies, but that's not what Trek has ever been about.

Re:Travesty? (3, Insightful)

timepilot (116247) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778575)

There was a decent amount of sex and violence in the original trek. It just wasn't explicit.

Re:Travesty? (5, Interesting)

bigstrat2003 (1058574) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778653)

It was there, but it wasn't the centerpiece. The sex and violence is all we've seen of the new movie, however... which is a worrisome indication that maybe that's all there is to this movie.

Re:Travesty? (1)

idontgno (624372) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778711)

It just wasn't explicit.

"Are you out of your Vulcan mind?"

I was just a wee kid when this ran on TV the first time. I wondered why my dad took a double-take at the TV when McCoy said that. (He didn't swear, at least not audibly in my presence, so my ears were pretty naive.)

The first time I heard that line as a teenager (ah, Saturday afternoon syndication FTW), I did the double-take and ROFL'd a bit. Yeah, not explicit, but there was definitely some "adult situations" large and small in that show. They got away with a fair bit for late 60's prime-time broadcast TV. I think they made a point of trying to get away with a fair bit. Hack censorship!

Re:Travesty? (1)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779165)

There was a decent amount of sex and violence in the original trek. It just wasn't explicit.

Huh? Damned near every female guest star on ToS was in a dress with their breasts damned near bouncing out. I remember Shatner talking about one actress who actually had to have her dress taped to her breasts because her nipples kept popping out.

Re:Travesty? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27779145)

This is hilarious. Where is the typointitle tag?

They didn't remove Klingons, the race. They removed Klingon. The language.

Re:Travesty? (3, Informative)

Kelson (129150) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778513)

The original Trek only rarely dealt with the Klingons. It was more about the crew exploring the unknown.

That was my first thought as well. Klingons were in, what, 7 or 8 episodes? Out of around 70 episodes total? And the spoken Klingon language wasn't introduced until the movies.

So there's no Klingons -- or at least no spoken Klingon -- in the story. Big deal.

And I say that as someone who's in the middle of rewatching TOS.

Re:Travesty? (1)

kylemonger (686302) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779039)

79 episodes, 4 matching the keyword "Klingon" in Vidiot's decades old TOS guide.

                                          "ERRAND OF MERCY" [*** 1/2]

First aired March 23, 1967. Kirk and Spock, stranded on Organia, attempt to interfere with the Klingon occupation of the planet, despite the Organians' insistence upon the non-necessity of violence.

                                  "THE TROUBLE WITH TRIBBLES" [*****]

First aired December 29, 1967. Kirk must put up with Federation bureaucrats and hordes of hungry tribbles while protecting a shipment of quadrotriticale (wheat) against Klingon sabotage.

                                        "A PRIVATE LITTLE WAR" [***]

First aired February 2, 1968. When the Klingons hasten the arms development of one faction on a hitherto peaceful planet, Kirk must arm the other side in order to maintain a balance of power.

                                          "DAY OF THE DOVE" [** 1/2]

First aired November 1, 1968. Klingons and the Enterprise crew must unite to overcome an alien who feeds on the hatred between them.

Re:Travesty? (1)

Archfeld (6757) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778611)

The original series had the Andorians playing a MUCH greater part and the Klingons were indeed just a bit part. Odd how the movies switched that around...
Not planning on seeing the movie in the theatres anyways, sounds like a netflix special.

Re:Travesty? (1)

fermion (181285) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778967)

ST:TOS was a classic literary device, a la the Odyssey and Huck fin. While it was the exploration of the unknown, it was also about the freedom to explore the known in a new context. Take the first episode, where McCoy meet an ex girlfriend. There is nothing so unknown about this. It simply takes the fear that someone we once loved have changed so much that we no longer will know them. Such a thing is a great loss. Episode 2, Charlie X, was dealing with the unknown, in the context of the increasing power of the teenager and rise of adolescence as a protected developmental period and youth activism.

In this light, the non-human cultures were mostly one off creations, meant to be nothing more than a necessary plot device. The exception was Vulcan, but even that was hardly more explored than the Klingons.

What is clear is that later on Klingons played a much larger roll. ST:TNG was very Klingon, with Spock being replaced by Worf as the alien. I would argue that the social aspects of the Kligons were explored much more in TNG than vulcan in TOS. The Klingons reigned large until for many years, and most of the time Kirk was indeed fighting with the Klingons.

What we are probably seeing is that the Klingons have been overexposed, and fully explored, so there is little interesting for a new writer to deal with, at least not without getting into trouble with the the Star Trek purists. We are also seeing a post Roddenberry Star Trek, in which the characters are used to sell tickets, but the stories are not really related.

Re:Travesty? (4, Insightful)

MightyMartian (840721) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779041)

I agree. This is, after all, a REBOOT. That means a lot of the cruft from about thirty years of post-ToS development is being dispensed with, and that's fine by me. This is meant to rejuvenate a series that had pretty much become one monstrous cliche of itself. If there's one thing ToS had that, over time, the later series lacked, it was solid, straightforward storytelling. Everything was burdened down by the vast edifice of Everything-That-Had-Come-Before. The last two attempts, the dull Voyager and the increasingly-pathetic Enterprise, showed just how uninteresting it had all become.

The Trouble With Tribbles was just fine with Klingons speaking English, thank you very much. In fact, and so will this.

Re:Travesty? (1)

kylemonger (686302) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779229)

Funny thing is that my biggest gripe with Trek is that they [b]ignored[/b] almost everything that had come before. Godlike races were conjured up and never mentioned again. The same went for technologies that could be crafted into fearsome weapons, with which the Federation would have been able to enslave or destroy the Romulans, the Dominion or anyone else who disagree with them. While they were cribbing from Niven they should have stolen the ARM as well, so they could have the technology police grab all the crazy weapons and tech.

As for this being a reboot, I think I'm going to enjoy it about as much as I'm enjoying the current 007 reboot, that is, not at all. If you're going to write a new story, then call it something else. "Star Trek / 007 is whatever we say it is" might be true legally, but it's a steaming crock artistically.

Re:Travesty? (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779055)

This is just a fanboi snit.

C'mon. I'd argue at least 75% of what's posted on Slashdot boils down to a "fanboi snit" in one form or another. This is important stuff... to the average Slashdotter.

/sarcasm off

Re:Travesty? (2, Funny)

Thuktun (221615) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779285)

The original Trek only rarely dealt with the Klingons. It was more about the crew exploring the unknown.

It's funny how often the unknown looked like the hills of southern California.

Let me be the first to say... (3, Funny)

Idiomatick (976696) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778335)

qaStaH nuq jay!!!!

Wrong place. (1)

johanwanderer (1078391) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778361)

/. is probably the wrong place to ask for such a deep and profound question.

This is tribbling (4, Funny)

get quad (917331) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778369)

Smooth heads or bumpy?

Re:This is tribbling (1)

creimer (824291) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778481)

Nice tribbles or bad tribbles?

And..... why should we care? (4, Insightful)

SDF-7 (556604) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778371)

Seems like a non-story to me. Wrath of Khan didn't have any spoken Klingon either (closest was Khan claiming the Klingon proverb: Revenge is a dish best served cold.... It is very cold, in spaaaaaaaaaaace.) I don't seriously think anyone missed it there, and while I know little of the plot of this film (intentionally, so no -- I don't want a summary) if the story doesn't really involve Klingons, no need to toss them in just to have them.

Re:And..... why should we care? (2, Funny)

Vollernurd (232458) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778523)

Of course followed by...

"KHAAAAAAAAAAAAANN!"

Always gotta love that bit.

Re:And..... why should we care? (1)

evilkasper (1292798) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778593)

So if the scenes were filmed you know they are going to be on some DVD extra feature. So whats the big deal?

Re:And..... why should we care? (3, Interesting)

DragonWriter (970822) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778837)

Seems like a non-story to me. Wrath of Khan didn't have any spoken Klingon either (closest was Khan claiming the Klingon proverb: Revenge is a dish best served cold.... It is very cold, in spaaaaaaaaaaace.)

Since the Klingon language (tlhIngan Hol), as such (that is, having an actual grammar rather than just a handful of words) was created for Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, this is not all that surprising. OTOH, its been used pretty heavily in the movies (and, to a lesser extent, series) since that, though I can't see why anyone would complain about it not being used in a new film (I can see, perhaps, complaining if Klingon's were talking in what was supposed to be "Klingon" but it wasn't tlhIngan Hol, particularly if there was no in-setting justification, but that's a different issue.)

Armageddon (0, Troll)

spun (1352) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778389)

Abrams sucks. This Trek will suck. I don't care about the Klingons, but from the ads I've seen, Abrams has worked his usual turdomancy on the franchise, turning a Sci-Fi gem into a steaming pile of Blockbuster Action Flick.

Re:Armageddon (1)

Hellpop (451893) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778595)

Abrams is a petaQ! What would you expect from a ko'tal like him anyway?

Re:Armageddon (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779129)

Abrams is a petaQ!

Hmmm... computergeek(me)>trekgeek(me). When I saw the word "petaQ", I read it as peta Q (as in 10^15 times John de Lancie's character)

Re:Armageddon (1)

lucif3r (1391761) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778657)

Abrams sucks. This Trek will suck.

Wow this is some really deep and thoughtful stuff here.

Personally, I haven't seen anything Trek lately that I would call a "Sci-Fi gem". I say let Abrams have his shot, its not like Franks was doing anything revolutionary with it, and lets not even start on Braga Let's hope Abrams can breath some life into what appears to have been allowed to become a dead franchise.

Re:Armageddon (1)

idontgno (624372) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778753)

Well, at least it's not Uwe Boll. We can be grateful for that.

Re:Armageddon (3, Funny)

spun (1352) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778923)

And a kick in the nuts isn't brain cancer, either. Doesn't mean we need to be grateful for a kick in the nuts. Yes, I'm aware that I just compared Uwe Boll to brain cancer, but it's not like cancer can take offense.

Re:Armageddon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27778877)

While I grew up cutting my teeth on the original star trek movies, I have a hard time completely blaming Abrams if this movie sucks. Considering the raping they did to other movie franchises of my childhood, I have low expectations.
With or without klingons, this reboot is a really bad idea. If it sucks everyone is left with a bad taste in their mouth, if it is popular enough to warrant a sequel (which it will with all the explosions and T&A I saw in the trailer) we will be completely subjected to a rewriting. I don't want another bad ass villain turned to whinny mamma's boy a la Darth Vader.
Please for the love of Trek burn down any theater that is going to show this movie!

Re:Armageddon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27778931)

I saw an advance screening of this last night. I was unenthused going in because of the ads. I was VERY surprised by the quality of the film. This Is A Good Star Trek Movie.

Re:Armageddon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27778969)

Oh seriously get off your high-horse and STFU. Oh let me guess, you want to appear to be an elitist purist?

Seriously, has there been a good Trek movie since First Contact? Nemesis was God-Awful, but what more can you expect from those fucking retards Berman and Bragga.

Give this movie a chance instead of sitting there pontificating without even seeing the freaking movie.

No big loss (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27778407)

Saw an advance viewing. Didn't come out of it thinking omg no Klingon.

Fanboys bitching about the lack of Star Trek, so they produced a movie and the first thing they do is Bitch about it.

Time goes on (5, Funny)

dk90406 (797452) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778409)

No need to kling on to old plot devices.

Argh - can't believe I just wrote that.

Re:Time goes on (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27778607)

Then why did you hit post, Moron!

Re:Time goes on (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27778739)

Great post!

Re:Time goes on (3, Funny)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778905)

Heh, and here I was reading the headline and thinking "Shouldn't that say 'Klingons Wiped From Final Star Trek movie'?"

Frakkin' Federation (1)

SnarfQuest (469614) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778447)

Ok, what's the translation of "Frakkin' Federation" from Klingon to English?

Re:Frakkin' Federation (1)

Captain Spam (66120) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779251)

In English, it works out to something like "Smegging Hell".

(yes, I know I just added another unrelated series in for the joke; you may hate me at your convenience)

Bah... (4, Funny)

Etrias (1121031) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778449)

Funny how all of the swearing is following the BSG meme then. Frakking? Really? I would expect no less than a double dumbass on you!

Re:Bah... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27778599)

Who the smeg cares?

Re:Bah... (0)

feyhunde (700477) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778799)

I frelling don't.

Re:Bah... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27778709)

Well played! :)

Re:Bah... (1)

Etrias (1121031) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778873)

Really, any colorful metaphor would have worked.

And that's colourful metaphor for those across the pond can grok what I'm saying.

No Klingon in the TOS Either... (2, Informative)

tjstork (137384) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778495)

In fact, I do believe that one of the Klingons in the TOS was actually John Colicos. He spoke Melodrama, not Klingon.

Patience please (1)

CaptScarlet22 (585291) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778509)

Just wait for the sequel, it will be all about the Klingons.

Nice marketing strategy there.

It keeps getting worse! (5, Funny)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778539)

I heard Tom Bombadil isn't even in this one!

Re:It keeps getting worse! (1)

onkelonkel (560274) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778915)

They left out the giant squid monster.

Re:It keeps getting worse! (1)

DeadDecoy (877617) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778921)

There goes my fan fiction of hot Bombadil on Worf action.

Re:It keeps getting worse! (1)

IcyNeko (891749) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779025)

That's okay. I heard Ripley might show up towards the end, when they blow up the Enterprise and Kirk dies.

Re:It keeps getting worse! (4, Funny)

frank_adrian314159 (469671) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779095)

Yeah, but Nimoy will have a cameo to sing about Bilbo Baggins.

Spider-Man 3 (4, Insightful)

XanC (644172) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778571)

Everybody complained that Spider-Man 3 tried to cram too many different characters and plots together. Chill out! This is but the first in a new series of films. There will be plenty of time for Klingons.

Re:Spider-Man 3 (1)

cptnapalm (120276) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779217)

Everybody claimed that Spiderman 3 sucked.

The First Rule of being a Fanboi! (1)

CFTM (513264) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778577)

Thou shalt complain about all new content to prove the veracity of thy fanboiness!

Missing Klingon dialect (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778649)

We actually had a sequence that ended up getting cut from the movie that took place on Rura Penthe, in a Klingon prison,

So, how do you say "Bend over, you're my bitch now!" in Klingon, anyway? Did they abandon this scene because it was too much like This Ain't Star Trek XXX, and they were afraid they would get sued?

Much fresher now... (2, Funny)

NecroPsyChroNauTron (1541583) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778651)

Apparently they had difficulty making the deletion at first, but were successful with a 2nd wipe.....

maybe (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27778663)

that 13 year old boy they've got to play kirk got scared when they spoke klingon.

I'm sorry I'm not watching a bunch of pre-pubescent twerps run around a starship, its as ludicrous as putting the Olsen Twins in charge of the USS Nimitz.

whats with turning all these shows into showcases for poorly acting teenagers? whats next? x-men babies?

Re:maybe (1)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779065)

whats with turning all these shows into showcases for poorly acting teenagers? whats next? x-men babies?

What, you think a script call for the Junior X-Men hasn't been made already?

For the NEXT Star Trek Movie (4, Funny)

tjstork (137384) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778717)

If you really, really, wanted to piss somebody off, they should remake the Edith Keeler episode as a feature film, but change it in some way as to really just make Harlan Ellison flip out. Have his "great work" get butchered by TWO generations of film-makers, now that would be priceless.

As CmdrTaco would put it... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27778833)

No Klingons. Less space than TNG. Lame.

Re:As CmdrTaco would put it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27778971)

I think he'd be more like: More dick in mouf plz! Bend me over and listen to me sing big boy!

Non-issue (2, Interesting)

rnelsonee (98732) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778909)

(minor spoilers)

I'm not a super Trekkie or anything, but I did see the movie this week, and I'm glad there's no Klingon. Hell, not only is there no Klingon speech, I didn't see a single Klingon at all. Who cares? The humans are the good guys, and they need bad guys. Since this is a fresh start, why re-hash the exact same enemies they already had in, what, 6 previous movies (just a guess, again, not a Trekkie)? I always thought the Klingons were just grumpy humanoids anyway. And AFAIK, they're been friends for nearly every TV series, so I'm not exactly fearful of their characters. Eric Bana as a really pissed off Romulan? That worked.

What villains? (1)

PMuse (320639) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778947)

If there are Klingons in Star Trek XI who speak to each other and don't use Klingon, that's stupid. If there are no Klingons in Star Trek XI, then complaining about the lack of spoken Klingon is stupid.

This is officially the last Star Trek XI story I am reading until May 9.

Horrible revisionism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27778961)

All the klingons have been replaced with walkie-talkies!!!!

And photon torpedoes have been replaced by quantum-Nerf!

Stay in a galaxy far far away from this movie.

They have to have... (1)

Nyckname (240456) | more than 5 years ago | (#27778963)

something for the deluxe box set in two years. How else are they going to get us to download it a second time?

Who's "up in arms"? (1)

swein515 (195260) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779061)

Um...which fans are up in arms? The linked article isn't exactly screaming like hardcore Trekkies, nor does it link or quote fans who are "up in arms". In fact, no one really seems to care much.

bah (1)

Tiny Elvis (171954) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779073)

Klingons are stupid, the language is stupid, their weapons are stupid, their mating habits are stupid. I never understood people getting all fascinated with that shit.

Spoiler Alert (1)

Alzheimers (467217) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779077)

You're never going to believe this, but...

*SPOILER ALERT*

there aren't any BORG in the movie, either!

OMG!

Which Klingons? (1)

Cro Magnon (467622) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779181)

If they put modern (TNG and later) Klingons in the movie, Trekkies would say "WTF! Everyone knows Klingons in the time didn't look like that". OTOH, if they used TOS Klingons, everyone would say "WTF! Everyone knows the TOS Klingons were just humans who need more prune juice".

...a tale told by an idiot (1)

dieselpawn (1302503) | more than 5 years ago | (#27779199)

This movie is shaping up to be, to quote Shakespeare: "...a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
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