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fp! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27841513)

biatch

Re:fp! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27841791)

Short and to the point, slightly misogynistic and/or homo-erotic. 7/10.

Re:fp! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27841813)

Thanks. I'll try harder next time.

Don't forget... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27841817)

...to pay your $699 licensing fee you cock smoking teabaggers!

Ahem. Ahem. (4, Funny)

symbolset (646467) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841529)

That's the fat lady clearing her throat.

Strangely enough, now I want to hear from Enderle and D'Idiot. I want to hear them whine about the unfainess of it all, how these saints were ridden out of town on a rail when their cause was just. I want to hear them tell the tale of the briefcase with millions of lines of copied code was pilfered from SCO's case in the thick of night.

And then I want them to vanish into ignominy.

Re:Ahem. Ahem. (3, Insightful)

Shadow Wrought (586631) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841545)

Yep. It'll be fascinating to see how O'Gara twists this into an SCO victory, and helps further their appeal.

Re:Ahem. Ahem. (3, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841573)

"Strangely enough, now I want to hear from Enderle and D'Idiot. I want to hear them whine about the unfainess of it all, how these Latter Day [wikipedia.org] Saints [wikipedia.org] were ridden out of town on a rail when their cause was just. I want to hear them tell the tale of the briefcase with millions of lines of copied code was pilfered from SCO's case in the thick of night."

They'll probably have to drive a stake through the corporate charter to make SCO stay dead.

Re:Ahem. Ahem. (2, Interesting)

russ1337 (938915) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842219)

the funny thing is..... SCO is like a zombie. Just when you think it's dead, a hand reaches from under the bed and grabs your leg.

It'll take a shotgun to the face to get rid of SCO. (a.k.a buy the trademark and all SCO's IP and release it all under creative commons / GPL / public domain....)

Re:Ahem. Ahem. (4, Funny)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842659)

But be honest, you KNOW this hand comes, don't you? I mean, how many zombie movies have you seen? You're actually pissed when it doesn't come. It's like sex without an orgasm when you're sitting there, the hero has his love interest in his arms and that fuckin' zombie stays just DEAD. "C'mon! Move!", you scream at the screen, "how can you let him get away with this without a last, feeble attempt to claw at him!"

I'd feel cheated if zombie Darl didn't at least try to move and lift four fingers to make that chapter 7 an 11 again.

I feel there's a 7-Eleven joke in there somewhere, if someone finds it, please inform me. Thanks.

DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27842905)

Don't pay them a frigging cent.

When SCO is dead and closed, THEN take up the SCO trademark. When the zombie is dead, THEN you bury it under a crossroads.

You don't pick out the crossroads before the bastard is down.

Liquify what? (4, Insightful)

LoRdTAW (99712) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841557)

Seriously. What assets do they have left that are worth selling? Patents? Software? I am sure there are still SCO shops around so there might be some interest in Unix Ware, Open Server etc. But how profitable will it be after everyone jumps the SCO ship to other platforms that aren't in danger of becoming unsupported?

All in all, good riddance.

Re:Liquify what? (4, Funny)

Culture20 (968837) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841611)

Liquify what?

Their lawyers? Chief Officers? A company might be able to make some soylent green and make a profit.

Won't work, soylet green is people, not rats (2, Funny)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842157)

Would you eat lawyers and CEO's?

Re:Won't work, soylet green is people, not rats (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 4 years ago | (#27843023)

Why not? People pay premium for boneless chicken, why not for managers without a spine? Besides, if Chapter 7s are anything like our insolvence trials, they'll be stewed in their own juices...

Re:Liquify what? (1)

ericferris (1087061) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842501)

Are we talking about Darl McBride here? Then it won't work. Remember, Soylent Green is people.The Soylent Green recipe requires protein of at least vaguely human origin. I'm afraid McBride doesn't qualify.

Re:Liquify what? (1)

Opportunist (166417) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842681)

Let's freeze-dry Darl and sell him by the pound. Hey, I'd auction it off as a curiosity. OF course, right now isn't the best time, but wait 'til managers have money again, I'm sure some wouldn't mind taking their old buddy Darl home, or at least some part of him.

Re:Liquify what? (5, Informative)

nairnr (314138) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841613)

Everything! Furniture, chairs, computers, bookcases. You name it, it goes. This is not so anyone can reorganize it into anything meaningful, this is so creditors get every last stinking dime out of them.

If you have ever been to a liquidation of a store, after they sell you what is left on the racks, they sell you the racks,display cases, lights, left over toilet paper...

Re:Liquify what? (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27842673)

And guess who is going to buy all the chairs...

Circuit City (1)

Zancarius (414244) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842935)

If you have ever been to a liquidation of a store, after they sell you what is left on the racks, they sell you the racks,display cases, lights, left over toilet paper...

If anyone is at a loss for useful examples, I should think Circuit City ought to be a recent memory of exactly this.

I call dibs (1)

symbolset (646467) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841633)

On the domain names. SCO.COM is just begging to be another rotten.com, and caldera.com offers the potential for some intriguing third level domains.

Re:I call dibs (2, Funny)

uvajed_ekil (914487) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841919)

I'd bid on sco.com,for sure!!! I'd pay like $3 to use it for my future site devoted to South Carolina otters. That is, if I can get a loan, since funding has been hard to secure for this project, for some reason. Maybe I'll try to figure out who invested in SCO in recent years and hit them up.

Re:I call dibs (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27842099)

fuck that, make it a goatse mirror! ;)

Sell to the 'glue factory' is the only option... (3, Insightful)

rts008 (812749) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841845)

Seriously. What assets do they have left that are worth selling? Patents? Software?

Well, sometimes you have to consider that the 'best' return on your investment is to 'render that horse' into dog food and glue. SCO has seemingly passed up both of those viable options in the hope of a MS type miracle, and failed.

Haul that dead horse to the rendering plant, and finally put it out of 'all of our miseries'!

Re:Liquify what? (1)

AHuxley (892839) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841949)

Why all of Unix... could be your for cents in the US$. :)
In theory they might have some old tapes to some .mil projects too.
Its like an ex president keeping all the 'stuff' from airforce one.
A $699 part of computing history could be yours.
Be a fun challenge, get your SCO asset sale total to read $699 :)
Computer, box of mystery backup tapes, SCO notepad, SCO binder and 3 SCO pens :)

For Novell... (1)

maz2331 (1104901) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842081)

It becomes a steal. They can buy back much of the "IP" at fire-sale prices, while still holding a priority claim on what is left.

Re:Liquify what? (4, Interesting)

Animats (122034) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842379)

Seriously. What assets do they have left that are worth selling? Patents? Software?

The way this works is that the Bankruptcy Trustee brings in an auction house. [go-dove.com] Assets like intellectual property and lawsuits are usually handled directly by the Trustee. The auction house handles the physical assets.

There's a whole food chain in Silicon Valley for disposing of defunct companies. Action Computer buys up many of the old PCs, the ones that work. Weird Stuff Warehouse buys up old networking gear and miscellaneous electronics. Consolidated Office Distributors buys much of the furniture (Their warehouse in San Jose looks like the one from Raiders of the Lost Ark, only bigger. That's where many of the Aeron chairs from the dot-com boom ended up.) There's a place in San Jose that buys steel shelving. Quickly, the office buildings and factories are cleaned out, cleaned up, and put on the market.

Where's Darl now? (5, Insightful)

ZosX (517789) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841619)

Don't worry. The SCO execs still made their money and are most likely very comfortable. Shame they never got investigated for insider trading when they started dumping their own stock, while filing waves of lawsuits, or is that legal? IP was the last leg their company had to stand on, and that was a shaky one at best. It is kind of sad that it took them this long to finally burn through all their cash on lawyers. Couldn't they have just called it a day and given the money to charity or something or maybe tried to reinvest in a new venture? Clearly they didn't see any sort of long term future for SCO. Does any still even actively license their craptacular "Unix" from them?

Re:Where's Darl now? (0, Offtopic)

ZosX (517789) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841643)

does any company i meant to say, falling asleep at the keyboard, time to sleep peeps. :)

Re:Where's Darl now? (2, Interesting)

RagingFuryBlack (956453) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842019)

Ironically, Yes. The Zales corporation...yes, the jewelry company, still uses an SCO system for their in-store terminal system. Maybe this will force them to update their systems to something more advanced than the current Circa 1989 software they're running.

Re:Where's Darl now? (3, Interesting)

palegray.net (1195047) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842339)

While I'm certainly no fan of SCO, in The Real World you use what works. If it still works, there's no need to replace it. Here's the thing about IMS about related systems: they solve what's largely understood to be a "known domain" of problems. You can still use third-party systems to link the central DBs to more modern systems if your business rules change, but the basics of managing inventory and keeping sales records haven't changed since pencil-and-paper ledgers.

Short version: If It Ain't Broke, Don't Fix It.

Re:Where's Darl now? (4, Interesting)

Kjella (173770) | more than 4 years ago | (#27843025)

In the real world it's also incredibly fun to watch the scramble when some ancient system nobody knows, supports or maintains goes postal, if you're not responsible for fixing it. Maybe it's nothing more than the inventory hitting more than MAX_INT items or whatever, but the day production is down and keeps going down every time you bring it up someone will wish they had a vendor to scream at.

Re:Where's Darl now? (4, Interesting)

evilviper (135110) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842545)

To hell with Zales' POS systems. McDonalds is a MAJOR user of SCO Unix, and they just keep growing.

Maybe they'll buy-up the IP rights for in-house development, or spin-off a small company to maintain it for their own needs and make a bit of money off selling to others at the same time...

Or maybe their contract works out better if they go out of business, then McD gets the software, with full source code, and unlimited rights, automatically. Who knows?

Re:Where's Darl now? (5, Insightful)

lgftsa (617184) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841731)

It is kind of sad that it took them this long to finally burn through all their cash on lawyers.

That would be Novell's money you smell burning...

Re:Where's Darl now? (2, Insightful)

rts008 (812749) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841895)

IP was the last leg their company had to stand on, and that was a shaky one at best.

That's the inherent nature of 'IP' to start with...we see how it ended here.
Get a clue. Wake the fsck up. 'IP' applied to anything but Internet Protocol, is just a spurious money grab, based on smoke and mirrors.

Re:Where's Darl now? (1)

innocent_white_lamb (151825) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842091)

Does any still even actively license their craptacular "Unix" from them?
 
A Canadian hardware store chain Home Hardware [homehardware.ca] uses SCO Unix to run their POS and inventory/ordering system.

Re:Where's Darl now? (2, Informative)

evilviper (135110) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842593)

Does any still even actively license their craptacular "Unix" from them?

Damn. How lazy can one person possibly be? You didn't even TRY visiting their website to look at their marketing hype, vis-a-vis SCO Unix market share?

http://sco.com/products/openserver6/
        * SCO UNIX has more than 40% market share among U.S. pharmacy retailers
        * Six of the top 10 global retailers are SCO UNIX customers
        * Seven of the top 10 U.S. retailers are SCO UNIX customers
        * SCO UNIX runs more than 12,000 McDonald's restaurants worldwide
        * Most voice mail systems run on SCO UNIX
        * SCO UNIX helps run BMW Service Centers
        * SCO UNIX runs 22,000 branches for the Bank of Russia
        * SCO UNIX helps the German train system run on time
        * SCO UNIX runs thousands of locations throughout China for the China Post

Re:Where's Darl now? (4, Informative)

dbIII (701233) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842775)

An important thing to remember is that Darl McBride's brother was one of those lawyers getting truckloads of cash. I still see it as a two man scam where the company was deliberately driven into the brick wall of IBM and then the repair work contracted out to the driver's brother.

Re:Where's Darl now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27843021)

By "repair work" I presume you mean steering the vehicle which towed the wreck to the breakers.

Allow me to say... (3)

whisper_jeff (680366) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841625)

Allow me to say, it's about damn time.

Re:Allow me to say... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27842075)

It's about time that sponge "PJ" was kicked off the GRAVY TRAIN and got a real job.

Hi Darl (2, Funny)

theolein (316044) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842397)

If PJ is a sponge, what does that make you? And if she was on a gravy train, does that mean you were in a racket?

How long has it really been? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27841637)

One year, four months since I submitted this frontpaged Slashdot article about SCO being delisted from NASDAQ: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/27/1438204 [slashdot.org]

I must ask again... is the wicked witch finally dead, YET?!

(Captcha: Circus. How. Very. Appropriate.)

Re:How long has it really been? (4, Funny)

uvajed_ekil (914487) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841959)

The wicked witch may not be dead yet, but she has pneumonia, gangrene, a wicked case of uncontrolled syphilis, and a lazy eye. And H1N1 influenza. And no health insurance or VA benefits. Medicare has its limits. And her good eye is infected from pickin' at it...

...but I think she's more like the Annoying Witch really, as she was too inefective and irrelevant to ever really be all that wicked.

Re:How long has it really been? (2, Informative)

shentino (1139071) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841971)

According to Groklaw, the motion has been granted and Judge Gross has ordered the conversion to Chapter 7.

This is way beyond ding dong the witch is dead.

This is "hail dorothy, the wicked witch is dead!" level stuff.

That hissing you hear is the wicked witch melting after Judge Gross dumped a bucket of water on SCO.

Groklaw didn't say the motion was granted (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27842445)

Where do you get that? The hearing didn't even happen yet.

I shall point at them and say (1)

gijoel (628142) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841645)

Ha Ha! [youtube.com]

Re:I shall point at them and say (2, Insightful)

Brian Gordon (987471) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841953)

This isn't personal. Anyway, the lawyers and journalists spewing SCO propoganda got paid their millions and aren't harmed at all by liquidation. Unless you're a millionaire you hardly have grounds to HA HA.

I wonder... (4, Interesting)

erroneus (253617) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841661)

...where would SCO be today if it hadn't started filing lawsuits? Sure, it wouldn't have had that cash infusion from Microsoft, but what was the state of that company and where was it headed prior to the suits? Would SCO still be a respected Unix vendor?

Re:I wonder... (2, Interesting)

jk379 (734476) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841689)

As they were a Linux company they might be making $$$'s. Even at 3rd place linux company would be in a much better place than SCO is today...

Re:I wonder... (1)

rackserverdeals (1503561) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841857)

As they were a Linux company they might be making $$$'s. Even at 3rd place linux company would be in a much better place than SCO is today...

How do you figure? The top three linux distros these days seem to be Ubuntu, RedHat and SuSE, probably in that order since Ubuntu has grown so fast. In terms of revenue, it's probably RedHat, SuSE, Ubuntu but it's hard to tell since Ubuntu is a private company that doesn't disclose revenues.

Profit wise, it's also not easy to tell. RedHat makes a fairly small margin for a software company, Novell still makes most of their money from non SuSE stuff and Ubuntu seems to be breaking even.

For RedHat, profit to revenue is about 14% compared to Oracle which is 25% and Microsoft at 29% for 2008. The last time Novel turned a profit was in 2006 and their profit margin was about 2%

2 of the 3 top linux distros are either not making or just making a profit.

Re:I wonder... (2, Informative)

Brian Gordon (987471) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841969)

Ubuntu does not break even. Canonical is still burning through Shuttleworth's money, although it's starting to fight its way against its downward spiral and could become profitable in the future. It still has plenty of assets though.

Re:I wonder... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27842301)

For RedHat, profit to revenue is about 14% compared to Oracle which is 25% and Microsoft at 29%

It seems to be difficult for people to understand Red Hat's business model, they are not a software company like Oracle or Microsoft. Oracle and Microsoft provide both software licensing and service, Red Hat provides service. The profit margins on software licensing are insanely high for any mass deployed application as the reproduction cost is virtually zero. Red Hat does not license software so they do not benefit from the fake limited supply created by closed source licensing. Comparing the margins is, well, dumb.

2 of the 3 top linux distros are either not making or just making a profit

14% is far from barely making a profit, Novell's profits were crap long before the SuSE purchase as Netware is a dead end. Good luck in extracting linux specific details from Novell's SEC filings, the last time I checked they buried the results in their dead end Netware product. As you already noted Ubuntu is private so their margins are unknown.

As far as Caldera, a.k.a. The SCO Group, goes they were seeing the beginnings of the same double digit revenue growth that Red Hat experienced prior to the suicide attacks. The purchase of the SCO Unix business brought on a large existing market to Caldera but just like Netware a dead end product line. It seems there was an opportunity to take advantage of that market to further sell Caldera linux and compete with Red Hat but instead they went for the get rich quick lottery ticket with a suicide lawsuit against IBM.

Re:I wonder... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27842877)

Ha. RedHat's "services" are almost entirely based on distributing software.

Their margins are low because that software is a commodity.

Re:I wonder... (2, Interesting)

hardburn (141468) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841793)

When were they ever a respected Unix vendor? SCO Unix never stood out from any of the dozen other Unix variants, and Caldera was the same way on the Linux side. All they had was some tenuous rights to the Unix name and code, but original Unix has been carved up so badly that it's impossible to know who really owns what.

Re:I wonder... (4, Insightful)

countach (534280) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841853)

Sure they were a respected UNIX vendor. They were the only serious choice at one time for Intel, and then they "owned" (sort of) the original UNIX rights. Doesn't mean they were the best or most wonderful or impressive vendor, but they were a serious vendor.

Re:I wonder... (4, Insightful)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841945)

...and it had customers. Even if SCO's products and services were worthless, its customer base alone would still have been valuable enough for some other Unix vendor (say, HP) to buy it out.

Re:I wonder... (1)

belmolis (702863) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842117)

Indeed, there's a famous story about a guy calling SCO from his tank during the first Iraq War and downloading a patch.

Re:I wonder... (3, Interesting)

rackserverdeals (1503561) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841979)

When were they ever a respected Unix vendor?

SCO had the lead in Unix on x86 hardware and apparently were used widely in certain sectors.

Unline, IBM, HP and Sun, SCO didn't have their own processor architecture so they weren't resistant to having their OS run on commodity hardware like the other big Unix vendors did.

This whole SCO lawsuit thing confuses me. At least the reaction to it and SCO going after Linux users.

SCO was under the Canopy Group and every time Ray Noorda [wikipedia.org] spun a company out of Novell, it usually resulted in an IP lawsuit. Usually against Microsoft. Strange or ironic that SCO and Novell would go head to head this time.

I can understand why SCO sued IBM. IBM, SCO and Sequent got together to work on Project Monterey. SCO's role in that was providing their leading Unix on x86 work. Then the project fell apart, IBM bought Sequent and SCO got nothing for their efforts.

Then all of a sudden, IBM puts more effort into Linux, an alternate Unix like OS that can run on x86.

If you were SCO, had spent a lot of time with IBM showing them your Unix/x86 secrets, then they ditch your work and all of a sudden put a big push into a competing unix like os on x86 that could benefit from the knowledge you shared with IBM, you'd probably want to sue too. I would.

Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, but you'd have to go to trial to get to the bottom of it.

Somehow it all turned into a giant circus and SCO seemed to start it by going after licensing fees for Linux users, but people on the sidelines, in either camp really made a mess of things. I think it's probably one of the most ridiculous moments in technology history.

there were NO unix/x86 secrets (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27842939)

Intel had all the specs on the x86. And the multiprocessor work was done on an alpha and ported to x86 with that Intel-sourced information.

SCO had also put quite a lot into GPL themselves before DMB got on board and sacked all the people who told him that.

Re:I wonder... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27842199)

> When were they ever a respected Unix vendor?

In the 1980s. There were a bunch of companies with commercial UNIX-on-commodity-PC-hardware offerings (Microport, ESIX, later BSDI, etc...) but SCO was definitely the biggest player in that market.

Of course, that's the "old SCO" -- the company whose UNIX assets were sold to Caldera (an early linux distro that had scored a big IPO but was quickly fading into irrelevance) Then Caldera renamed themselves "SCO" prior to embarking on their series of lawsuits. Don't let their actions besmirch the good name of the original company -- it's completely different management.

It's doubtful that they would have survived in any real capacity these days. While SCO was an important OS in its heyday, its capabilities were very quickly surpassed by the free UNIXes. (I replaced one production SCO machine with a linux box in summer 1993 -- even though linux hadn't reached the 1.0 kernel yet it was already more advanced than the expensive SCO install I was replacing!) The old-SCO's market niche of selling a proprietary UNIX for hundreds of dollars (or thousands if you needed amenities like TCP/IP, NFS, or X11!) is long gone.

Same place, most likely (4, Interesting)

Weaselmancer (533834) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841887)

I wonder...where would SCO be today if it hadn't started filing lawsuits?

Same place, chapter 7.

They knew they were tanking and that's why they did this hail mary "let's sue IBM" nonsense. Their UN*X product was not spectacular. They didn't really offer anything unique or give any compelling reasons to do any business with them.

People do this sort of thing all the time. There is something nearly universal in the human psyche that says that it makes sense to spend your last five bucks to buy a lottery ticket.

Just like I knew Nortel was in trouble ... (4, Interesting)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841941)

... when they started suing everybody who did anything SONET (including our company) over potential infringements of their patents. (I got dragged in because a chip I had co-architected included a SONET-like framer and some other telecom carrier framer stuff.)

When the company is sinking and the management is grabbing any floating debris that might keep their heads above water, the patent portfolio that USED to be just for protection against suits from others suddenly becomes a potential cash cow. (Or an inflatable life raft to continue the previous metaphor.) And a technology company starts taking on the appearance of a patent troll operation.

Of course in SCO's case it looks like the patent trolls bought into the sinking company so they could use it for trolling...

Re:I wonder... (2, Interesting)

failedlogic (627314) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841989)

On the opposite, I wonder what would have happened if they actually *won* the suit. I'm not sure if anything of this nature was ever discussed. The business was failing anyways - so they would have had to significantly improve or diversify their product and/or go after new markets.

They were claiming damages in the 100's of millions of dollars. Would they have invested their riches in new developers, sales, marketing folks? I don't know that even with the riches in hand they would buy out the Linux/Unix talent of another company (Sun, RH, etc) and even if they did and also operated on the basis of collecting royalties from other 'Nix vendors, what would have happened. My general impression is it would be a shell company. Does nothing but deepens the pockets of those that 'own' the IP. Its a shame that the developers who actually went through long days etc programming wouldn't have gotten a cent. The suits that just kind of 'show up' could be sitting on a beach (assuming, again they won) in the middle of nowhere and collecting millions - and they really were never responsible for the IP.

I'm somewhat pro 'IP'. But in this context, I think as long as an IP or patent (or whatever) stays in a shell company that does absolutely nothing but to exist to get money from its IP etc, then the people who created/developed the IP - scientists, engineers, should be the first in line to profit.

Don Corleone says... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27841675)

... don't mess with da penguin.

SCO OWNS LINUX!!! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27841691)

SCO OWNS LINUX!!!
(cue the SCO$699FeeTroll)

Don't forget... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27841911)

Look up

I dont understand (4, Interesting)

onyxruby (118189) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841693)

I don't understand, their reality distortion field has got to be worth millions in it's own right. Nice thing about chapter 7 is they have to auction /everything/. I wonder if you can buy their data and load up their servers to see what they were really thinking. Perhaps someone can buy whatever rights they thought they had and donate everything to the FSF.

Oh, ya. Where is Bruce Perens? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27841723)

"Perhaps someone can buy whatever rights they thought they had and donate everything to the FSF."

Where is Bruce? More importantly, where is his checkbook? He likes to buy stuff.

Re:I dont understand (1)

rts008 (812749) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841961)

I wonder if you can buy their data and load up their servers to see what they were really thinking.

Most people/businesses cannot afford the price of LSD-25 to attain this level of understanding...'try at your own risk' would seem to apply here, YMMV.

Daryl McBride could 'school' Dr. Timothy Leary here...*cue Jimi Hendrix: "Are you experienced?...Well I am..."[guitar riff]*

Caustic? Well, yes, but I am experienced, so....

Taking bets (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841707)

I'm taking bets on how much bailout money they will get from the federal Gov. Gotta keep a politician's palm greased for a rainy day, you know?

pens, pencils, toilet paper (1, Interesting)

Gothmolly (148874) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841749)

Seems like the office supplies, the inventory of their soda machine, and the desk chairs might the most valuable assets the company has. DIAF, SCO.

i just got off the toilet (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27841769)

i shit out an obama.

plop!

Constructive Trust (2, Interesting)

shentino (1139071) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841859)

Hey, didn't judge kimball have novell's money set aside in a constructive trust?

I hope someone at SCO gets nailed for contempt.

Novell has probably got to be mega POed right now.

Re:Constructive Trust (2, Informative)

Todd Knarr (15451) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842351)

No, he didn't. He found he could rule on summary judgement that SCO owed money, but exactly how much involved questions of fact that he had to defer to the trial. Since he couldn't pin down an amount, he couldn't order a constructive trust until after the trial. And of course SCO filed for bankruptcy the day before the trial was to start. Later the bankruptcy judge unstayed the case as far as determining the amount SCO owed went, and Judge Kimball finally ruled on the matter last August.

Novell did ask during the bankruptcy proceedings to have the money put into a trust, and SCO's attorneys argued that wasn't neccesary. I expect that'll come back to haunt SCO during the Ch.7 proceedings.

At this point, though, the big monster in the room isn't Novell, it's IBM. Novell may be PO'd, but IBM... is Darth Vader back before George turned him into a whiny emo kid.

Today's top story (4, Funny)

Anenome (1250374) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841873)

Today's top story: In a bid to stave off bankruptcy, SCO Inc. has decided to sue everyone. That's right, everyone. SCO spokesman Seth Tuller says that 'everyone' will be served with court papers during lunch-time tomorrow. Tuller is quoting as saying, "Everyone owes us money, and everyone must pay." Stockholders are up in arms over this last minute bid to serve the entire world with a reverse class-action lawsuit, saying that the estimated $100 billion cost of doing so is just the latest in a long line of terrible decisions by company management.

In other news, the dancing penguin video has become the latest sensation to hit the web...

Re:Today's top story (1)

Skapare (16644) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842319)

And they are financing all this legal work how? Taxpayer bailout? Oh, yeah, sue the people that are paying them to sue people. Nice work.

Save Their Publications (4, Interesting)

RAMMS+EIN (578166) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841885)

Let's not forget to archive the materials they have published (mostly as Caldera). There is some useful information there.

Too late? (1)

uvajed_ekil (914487) | more than 4 years ago | (#27841901)

Chapter 7 probably makes sense for a company like SCO, but they have one argument against it: liquidate what?

You fai7 ist (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27841995)

ME! It's oAoficial

I miss the old SCO (5, Insightful)

LostMyBeaver (1226054) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842623)

There was a point in time when there was an SCO (probably prior to 7 buy outs and name transfers) that actually focused on technology. I remember when their product, in my opinion was the best UNIX desktop if for no other reason, but they had a control panel while everyone else still used configuration files. It was a dream being able to change screen resolution without having to restart X.

They also made some products in their Tarentella line which was a port of the Microsoft SMB stack and therefore was a MUCH MUCH better solution than the Samba of the time. In fact, management-wise, it might still be better. After all, when you can spend less time reverse engineering and hacking with compatibility problems you can spend more time on usability.

I guess that company is long gone and what's going bankrupt now is just some predators who attempted to capitalize off the accomplishments of the old SCO.

But Goodbye SCO. I miss you

Re:I miss the old SCO (1)

FreakyGreenLeaky (1536953) | more than 4 years ago | (#27843043)

just some predators who attempted to capitalize off the accomplishments of the old SCO

No doubt the old SCO was an excellent tech company. From a business perspective, though, I wouldn't characterise the creditors as predators. They're also businesses who have bills to pay, shareholders to report to, and would like to recover monies owing...

Professional view (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#27842651)

As a professional, writing software for different Unix dialects.. I can only say so much:

HAHaHaHaHaHaHaHAHAHaHaHaHaHAHA!!!

Where's the SEC? (2, Interesting)

Eternal Annoyance (815010) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842733)

I wonder when they will come banging on the door of senior SCO managers who performed insider trading. Also, it wouldn't amaze me if they follow the cash donation (that $500.000.000 they got from Microsoft) back to the source and start asking some very nasty questions over there.

SEC's arguments: competition fraud, misleading shareholders, inciting forgery of papers, inciting abuse of the judicial system.

When will that RICO act be invoked against Microsoft by the SEC?

Off doing bigger stuff (3, Insightful)

Kupfernigk (1190345) | more than 4 years ago | (#27842825)

While we've been worrying about a small company trying to make money by patent trolling large ones, the Masters of the Universe held whole governments to ransom. Bernie Madoff's petty cash fund is probably bigger than the entire SCO case.
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