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Windows 7 RCs Shut Down To Force Updates

CmdrTaco posted more than 5 years ago | from the please-resume-download dept.

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nk497 writes "The release candidate for Microsoft Windows 7 will expire June 2010, and the software giant will let users know they need to pay to upgrade by shutting down the system every two hours for three months. According to Microsoft: "The RC will expire on June 1, 2010. Starting on March 1, 2010, your PC will begin shutting down every two hours. Windows will notify you two weeks before the bi-hourly shutdowns start. To avoid interruption, you'll need to install a non-expired version of Windows before March 1, 2010. You'll also need to install the programs and data that you want to use.""

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Crackfix please (5, Insightful)

Spazztastic (814296) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907719)

How long until someone crackfixes this? TIA.

Re:Crackfix please (3, Informative)

inerlogic (695302) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907759)

about 4 seconds...
3... 2... 1....

Re:Crackfix please (5, Funny)

Spazztastic (814296) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907781)

about 4 seconds... 3... 2... 1....

Hurry! It's shutting me down!

"If you should see a man walking down a crowded... (-1, Offtopic)

Philip K Dickhead (906971) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907871)

...street talking aloud to himself, don't run in the opposite direction, but run towards him, because he's a poet. You have nothing to fear from the poet - but the truth."

---Ted Joans from the poem "Jazz Is My Religion"

Re:Crackfix please (1, Insightful)

Tiger4 (840741) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907793)

How long before MS patchfixes this? They don't need more reasons for people to hate them, drive down sales, or drive developers to other OSs.

Re:Crackfix please (5, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907855)

Providing a (free as in beer) RC version that works, uncrippled, until mid 2010, would drive down sales.

Hence the crippling.

Re:Crackfix please (3, Insightful)

Xaoswolf (524554) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908105)

I don't know how many game demos that I've downloaded and played that have time limits on play.

Generally, I find it frustrating that I can't save and have to stop at the good part, but if the game is good, I then buy it.

Re:Crackfix please (4, Interesting)

maxwell demon (590494) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908547)

I think it's a silly restriction for game demos if you can't save. It's reasonable that you can't load (after all, it's a demo), but is there any reason why you shouldn't be allowed to continue a game on the full version after you started it on the demo version?

Re:Crackfix please (5, Insightful)

InsertWittyNameHere (1438813) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908149)

It's not "free as in beer." It's "free as in drugs" as in "the first hit is always free."

Re:Crackfix please (4, Funny)

unlametheweak (1102159) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908311)

It's not "free as in beer." It's "free as in drugs" as in "the first hit is always free."

Yeah it's the same with sex, and then you get married.

Re:Crackfix please (3, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908387)

Beer is a drug. And beer, like other drugs, are often shared freely by friends. "Pushers" looking to get you hooked are a fabrication by the drug warriors.

Re:Crackfix please (5, Insightful)

MrAngryForNoReason (711935) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907881)

Why would people hate Microsoft for making available a free release candidate of their new OS that can be used with no restriction for the next 11 months?

At that point users of the release candidate can either pay for a license or reinstall their old OS.

This isn't some nefarious move by Microsoft it is just the end of the evaluation period of the release candidate.

Re:Crackfix please (2, Insightful)

Joce640k (829181) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908065)

How many "data files" will it make that are Windows 7 only, making return to XP impossible?

Makes no difference I suppose. It's pretty much a given that anybody who installs this and uses it for a year is a die-hard Windows fan who's not going back anyway.

Re:Crackfix please (5, Insightful)

Cowmonaut (989226) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908293)

It's an RC. If you were fool enough to install Windows 7 and use it at a production level then you get what is coming. If you installed it at home and you only had one box you should of known from the start that something like this would happen. People who think like your comment suggests are a big problem in today's society. It represents yet again that some people want things to be provided to them for free exactly how they want it and damn anyone who does otherwise.

Re:Crackfix please (4, Informative)

jim_v2000 (818799) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908393)

>How many "data files" will it make that are Windows 7 only, making return to XP impossible? None.

Re:Crackfix please (2, Interesting)

at_slashdot (674436) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908155)

Do you just apply the new license or do you need to reinstall?

Re:Crackfix please (2, Insightful)

Blakey Rat (99501) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908357)

Good question. Some MS products let you change the license number, if you first enter an invalid one (like Server 2008; presumably that feature disappears after it's activated.) So it's definitely technically possible for them to do it.

I doubt they will, though-- remember you're supposed to only be installing this Windows 7 release on *test* machines, not live machines. Therefore, you should fully expect to have to lose everything on it when you upgrade to the release version of Windows 7. It would be nice if Microsoft let you switch over without re-installing, but they really have no reason to. (And nor should you expect it.)

Re:Crackfix please (5, Funny)

Taagehornet (984739) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908177)

Why would people hate Microsoft for making available a free release candidate of their new OS that can be used with no restriction for the next 11 months?

You really must be new around here... ;-)

Re:Crackfix please (5, Funny)

nizo (81281) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908323)

I'm just excited to hear that Microsoft is giving out free copies of their OS so that people who write malware won't have to buy a copy to port their software to the new platform.

Re:Crackfix please (1)

AlexBeck (1199189) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908405)

Oh, I thought Windows was always free. Whatever..

Re:Crackfix please (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27908229)

Why would people hate Microsoft for making available a not free release candidate of their new OS that can be used with no restriction for the next 11 months?

Yes because we should never judge a company by their actions in the past. We shouldn't judge them for releasing a bloat of an operating system with so much
DRM embedded that MS & the media companies almost have more control of your hardware than you do.

At that point users of the release candidate should reinstall an OS Fixed that for you.

Microsoft is advising people not to keep using the RC but to use a fresh install of the final Win7.

When Windows 7 RC expires, XP will not be supported by Microsoft any more giving most users a choice of Vista or Windows 7 or moving away from Microsoft.

This isn't some nefarious move by Microsoft it is just the end of the evaluation period of the release candidate.

Microsoft is in business to make as much money as possible. They do this by breaking the law and abusing the monopolistic hold they have on the OS market.
It most certainly IS some nefarious move by Microsoft orchestrated to increase their profits. To think otherwise is naive.

what is bad about this (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27908507)

What is bad about this is the way MS forces you to upgrade - by erasing the disk, along with the OS and ALL of your data, then installing a licensed copy and reinstalling all of your apps and then the data. What could be more inconvenient? What could waste more time? What could be more stupid?

Why not just have a menu item to click on to buy a valid license key with a credit card - LIKE EVERY OTHER NORMAL VENDOR DOES!

I just activated a copy of Photoshop Express this way, it's a convenient, easy $90 for Adobe. Doesn't anyone at Microsoft have a triple digit IQ?

Re:Crackfix please (2, Insightful)

Beelzebud (1361137) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908563)

This is slashdot. MS can NEVER be seen as anything but evil here.

Re:Crackfix please (1)

geordie_loz (624942) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908567)

For me the issue seems to rather be that Microsoft are getting a number of people to beta test their software, and the least they could do is give them a free copy of the end result.

Re:Crackfix please (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27907851)

Who wants to use the RC version of Windows 7 forever? The RTM version will be released and cracked long before March 2010.

Re:Crackfix please (3, Funny)

iamhassi (659463) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907969)

I hope that's all it does!

When I installed Vista on a used laptop it didn't recognize the Vista CD Key on the laptop and wouldn't let me log in to the system. Only thing it would display is "YOUR KEY IS INVALID. PLEASE ENTER A VALID KEY OR CALL... (etc)". Safe mode didn't work either.

I ended up calling the manufacture and paying $30 for restore DVDs, but it put the laptop completely out of commission for a week.

Re:Crackfix please (4, Informative)

UncleTogie (1004853) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908223)

When I installed Vista on a used laptop it didn't recognize the Vista CD Key on the laptop and wouldn't let me log in to the system. Only thing it would display is "YOUR KEY IS INVALID. PLEASE ENTER A VALID KEY OR CALL... (etc)". Safe mode didn't work either.

First thought that came to mind is that you might've been using a Retail disk for an OEM install. While I've seen OEM disks from different PC makers work on other brands, I've yet to see a Retail version work with an OEM serial number.

Re:Crackfix please (2, Insightful)

karnal (22275) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908331)

I've had to call MS before since a client reloaded XP by himself and couldn't get past the key part. Was very simple - just had to verify with the person on the other end that the key wasn't in use more than once, then they activated it (challenge/response I think in XP) - this could have worked for you as well. Probably only 20 minutes out of my day (and billable...)

Re:Crackfix please (1)

unlametheweak (1102159) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908023)

How long until someone crackfixes this?

You mean, when will a third party patch be released to fix this behavior?

Re:Crackfix please (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908157)

Not long. the beta had cracks that disabled the timeout floating on TPB for a month now. This one will be dead in short order as well.

Re:Crackfix please (0, Flamebait)

bonch (38532) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908419)

I love how open Slashdotters are about their piracy. Nobody even tries to be subtle about it anymore.

Re:Crackfix please (5, Insightful)

Dog-Cow (21281) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908493)

Piracy is nothing more than selfish humans leeching other people's work and not wanting to lose the free ride.

Modern copyright law is nothing more than selfish and greedy middlemen not wanting to lose their free ride.

Re:Crackfix please (1)

Murpster (1274988) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908467)

Already done, it's called "Linux"...

Um... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27907725)

I Just changed my system clock to see what would happ

Re:Um... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27907989)

I Just changed my system clock to see what would happ

Well? What happened? You stopped in the middle of typing like you were talking about Candlejack or somethi

Re:Um... (0, Flamebait)

nomorecwrd (1193329) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908163)

Whooosh!!
(for the modder)

Re:Um... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27908477)

--um if there's a 'whoosh' here it's yours dude.

Re:Um... (1)

MrPhilby (1493541) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908505)

I seem to have all the lines of the comments cu

I smell a sinister double-cross (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27907741)

What if Italians are causing these shutdowns to force their nefarious ices on our wives and children? The Air Force should be alerted.

You're Surprised at No Take Backs? (4, Insightful)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907775)

First off, might I applaud Davey Winder for his even handed non-biased journalism:

Has Microsoft gone mental?

What is totally mental, and I mean running around the supermarket without your pants on shouting "where is the mustard" mad ...

Here is what Mental Microsoft has to say on the matter

I get it, you learned a new word: mental. Please, try to use it in moderation and only when discussing things with your too cool for school third grade friends.

Really, you sound surprised. Didn't they warn us about this anyway? That's why the general populace was not supposed to install this. For savvy users with their old image on a backup drive it's a minor inconvenience.

Can one automagically revert to the legal Windows (if any) they had installed before they installed Windows 7? Of course not, this would make sense. And provide an easy way out of migration. For those who need an ill formed & flawed car analogy: It is like taking a new car for a test drive only to return to the dealership to discover that your old car has been crushed into a cube.

Re:You're Surprised at No Take Backs? (1)

Sfing_ter (99478) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907899)

Indeed - M$ has done this since WinNT - I had installed a winnt server from the "trial" cd they sent our company and it would reboot on the hour after the 180day period. I was perplexed when we called them to purchase and they told us we would need to re-install - back in those days there was no "exporting the domain and user settings" that was actually workable/sane. Does not surprise me at all.

I do know I can upgrade from the beta of SME server 8 to the full version without any problems... or re-installs or losing users.

Re:You're Surprised at No Take Backs? (4, Informative)

Xugumad (39311) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907973)

I'm damn sure there was a warning in the giant pages of stuff I had to read before I was given the W7 RC. Certainly, I read this and went "Erm, yeah..."

On top of which, it's always been very clearly "Do NOT install on a production system, this is for testing only". If it wiped my drive wholesale, it wouldn't be a catastrophe, because it's not on a system I can't trivially re-install. Methinks he didn't really read all the details...

Re:You're Surprised at No Take Backs? (5, Insightful)

MrAngryForNoReason (711935) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907999)

For those who need an ill formed & flawed car analogy: It is like taking a new car for a test drive only to return to the dealership to discover that your old car has been crushed into a cube.

It is clearly stated on the site where the Release Candidate is downloaded from that it is not recommended to install on your main machine as it will be necessary to reinstall a different OS at the end of the evaluation period. It is intended to be used on a testing machine, or by people who don't mind reinstalling after March next year.

It amazes me that Microsoft give away a trial version of their new OS for anyone to try out for almost a year and there are so many people whose response is negative. If you don't want to have to reinstall next year then don't use it. Or wait for the retail release and buy a copy.

If I gave you a house on a rent-free 12 month lease would you piss and whine about how inconvenient moving out would be?

Re:You're Surprised at No Take Backs? (0, Offtopic)

couchslug (175151) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908343)

"If I gave you a house on a rent-free 12 month lease would you piss and whine about how inconvenient moving out would be?"

Not if you pay for naked odalisques to carry me out on a sedan chair.
Otherwise, yes.

Re:You're Surprised at No Take Backs? (1)

GauteL (29207) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908459)

If I gave you a house on a rent-free 12 month lease would you piss and whine about how inconvenient moving out would be?

While I agree with your intent, I would chose my analogies more carefully.

In the case of Windows 7, you won't have saved anything if you purchase Windows 7 a year later. It will still be the same price. At most you would have saved a few quid interest on putting your money in the bank during your year of free Windows 7.

Since housing is so incredibly expensive in comparison, you would most likely have saved an absolute fortune in rent/mortgage interest, that you could have saved up as part of a deposit on a house of your own.

Thus, free rent for a year is a massive boost to anyone which is certainly worth the hassle of moving out.

Re:You're Surprised at No Take Backs? (0, Offtopic)

Z00L00K (682162) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908115)

Hardly surprising, and Windows 7 is just slightly better than Vista, but I'm not able to get that spartan (relatively) look and feel of Windows 2000 to get the job done instead of suffering from Microsoft trying to make me feel Awesome and Impressed by their way of overcooking a GUI.

And Windows Vista and Windows 7 are both not very friendly for advanced users.

Sure - mod me troll, but that's my opinion!

Re:You're Surprised at No Take Backs? (1)

twidarkling (1537077) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908485)

I dunno, I think Win7's more super-user-friendly than Vista, and as far as I can tell, there's not really anything missing compared to XP. Would you be able to point me to the Win7 specific issues (not the ones that are Windows in general, as we all know there's many of those).

Re:You're Surprised at No Take Backs? (2, Informative)

armanox (826486) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908593)

Start Button -> (Right Click) Computer -> Advanced System Settings -> Perfomance -> Adjust for best perfomance

Actually, I think just unchecking Use Visual Styles does the trick.

Late to the party! (5, Informative)

TheRealJobe (1125771) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907779)

File this under already announced before RC1 was released to the public, and file a second copy under you get what you pay for.

I See No Problem With This (5, Informative)

fyrie (604735) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907821)

MS has been upfront about this since before they pushed the RC.

Re:I See No Problem With This (4, Interesting)

KiltedKnight (171132) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907887)

Agreed. If it was part of the EULA (there's that dreaded acronym again), then the users have no reason to complain about it. Though if nothing else, Microsoft might want to consider giving people who download and use this beta a discount on their "official release" copy.

Re:I See No Problem With This (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27908463)

Why? You're not supposed to use the RC for anything but testing. It's not a "beta" in the Google CYA sense. It is a timebombed piece of software. It is provided so that you can test whether Windows 7 suits your needs and whether the applications you write are compatible with Microsoft's next OS. You can learn how to configure/administrate/use Windows 7 before your customers inundate you with their problems when Windows 7 is released to the unwashed masses. It is not a free OS. If you want Windows 7 as your everyday OS, you're going to pay for it.

Re:I See No Problem With This (2, Insightful)

localman57 (1340533) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908061)

I'll go further than that. I'm glad they did it. I assume they're going to stop issuing downloadable security updates to the RC in March. As a user of the internet, I feel that there are already far too many unpatched Microsoft OS based Zombies lying in wait to do horrible things to people. It seems that a pre-release OS which could be in the wild for years without updates (by design) is a threat to the rest of us.

Re:I See No Problem With This (1)

AlexBeck (1199189) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908499)

You are basing this on what?! Oh, right, nothing..

It's also nicer than the alternative (4, Interesting)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908381)

The normal course of action for a time limited demo would be to simply stop functioning when your time expires. That is what I expect from such things and how most of them work.

However, what happens if you didn't get all your data off and so on? Well, this offers you a way to be able to operate the system, just with restrictions. It is a nicer way of handling things.

Crippleware (1)

Locdonan (804414) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907837)

They my have just realized that a year was way too long for a free, stable version of Windows.

Next thing you know, they are going to offer to let you share the software with a friend, but only offer 20% of the capabilities. Free copy of Wolfenstein included!*

*First mission only

Breaking news haters: Win 7 will own more desktop (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27907841)

Than linux ever will even if MS makes it shoot poop out of your monitor into your mouth.

Upgraded (3, Funny)

T Murphy (1054674) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907843)

I seriously doubt it shuts down every two hours. No Windows system is stable that long at a time.

Re:Upgraded (1)

Mr Thinly Sliced (73041) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907905)

I seriously doubt it shuts down every two hours. No Windows system is stable that long at a time.

To be fair they achieve this guiness book of records feat by forcing the machine into sleep state C1 for the last 1 hour thirty minutes.

Re:Upgraded (2, Funny)

nizo (81281) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908369)

It would be awesome if Apple made an ad mentioning that since Microsoft users are so used to random crashes they made it a feature in their new release.

Re:Upgraded (2, Insightful)

HerculesMO (693085) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908403)

Whilst modded "funny", it's this preconcieved notion and the spite of the *nix community that actually makes their arguments look far poorer.

I took a RHEL class (instructor FROM RedHat) a while back, and 1/4 of the class was dedicated to bashing Windows. Oddly enough, most of his complaints were from a lack of knowledge, not because of the OS, so what does it say when you keep pushing that kind of attitude when people are trying to make *nix more successful and widely received?

Re:Upgraded (2, Funny)

need4mospd (1146215) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908413)

That's not true, mine has been stable fo

Story's title is flamebait (5, Interesting)

krelian (525362) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907859)

It's not shutting down to force updates, it's shutting down when the trial period expires.

This is well known, was discussed here several times and is clearly mentioned on the Microsoft download page.

To be honest it seems like slashdot has more stories about Microsoft than about Free software.

Re:Story's title is flamebait (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27907933)

"It's not shutting down to force updates, it's shutting down when the trial period expires" to cajole users into updating to the real thing
 
FTFY.

Re:Story's title is flamebait (1)

Burkin (1534829) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907963)

Well of course. Microsoft never said you would get to use the RC for forever.

Re:Story's title is flamebait (1)

twidarkling (1537077) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908537)

Story's title is still misleading. 90%+ of people would read the title as "force system patch updates", not "upgrading the OS to a different version."

Re:Story's title is flamebait (1)

colourmyeyes (1028804) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908591)

It's like they have some crazy scheme to turn a profit by selling software.

Is anyone else besides me worried... (4, Funny)

tekiegreg (674773) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907861)

That this will wind up in the actual release in some form or another by mistake...it's only so easy to track zillions of lines of code after all.

Re:Is anyone else besides me worried... (1)

bonch (38532) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908433)

That's like worrying that a plane will accidentally drop a mattress on your head. You can worry about anything.

Not news (1)

wumpus188 (657540) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907877)

How is that news? MS says about shutdowns right there on RC's download page. Must be a really slow news day, nothing to chew MS for...

Re:Not news (1)

tha_toadman (1266560) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908301)

I agree. Why is this newsworthy? Six days after the RC goes public, someone DIDN'T read the notice before the download so they decided to post this info?

Re:Not news (1)

xenolion (1371363) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908565)

Its only news cause so many people want to make Microsoft look like an evil company that should be told how to do their own business. The made it clear as can be when you go to their page way before you download, during the download, and again when you install. So this is only news to the idiots that don't know whats going on outside their own little bubbles.

Been there, done that (4, Funny)

lurker412 (706164) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907885)

It sounds like a fully licensed version of Win95.

Re:Been there, done that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27908219)

That's more time than I could get with Windows ME!

Re:Been there, done that (1)

greymond (539980) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908285)

I think you mean Windows ME (Millennium) but it worked opposite of this RC, it was only working for up to 2 hours per day.

Why do you keep posting news about Microsoft (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27907925)

Haven't all the nerds moved to Mac OS X or Linux by now?

No, BSD isn't an option. Netcraft has confirmed that BSD is dying.

Is this really new? (5, Insightful)

Schnoogs (1087081) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907927)

Did everyone think MS was giving away a free OS??? I've come across people in other forums literally cussing out MS as if this is some dirty trick.

Never underestimate the stupidity of some people. Like they think you have two options with Windows 7...either download the free version or go the store and buy the version that costs $100.

Morons.

That's OK (4, Funny)

MadAnalyst (959778) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907995)

It won't be much of a pain due to the blindingly fast Windows 7 boot time, right?

What about Release 7000? (1)

brxndxn (461473) | more than 5 years ago | (#27907997)

The original public release (I believe 7000) stated it would work until August 1, 2009. This hasn't changed, right?

This might have saved my company a headache (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27908037)

We had one customer several years ago who complained that our product stopped working all of the sudden. The customer yelled at us and threatened to sue us out of existence.

We looked into his problem anf it turns out he used an evaluation copy of Windows 2000 and the license expired on him.

It was a bank in LA. I forget the name. The bastards are probrably collecting TARP funds.

An upgrade is technically possible... (4, Interesting)

alta (1263) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908073)

Say, oh, 15 million people install RC (I did.)
Come June, you want to start getting paid (you're M$), you have two options...

1. Release an 'upgrade to paid version' where you charge people FULL PRICE for the equivilent of whatever they're running. (I'm using ultimate)

2. Force people to pay for the version they choose AND reinstall everything.

Now, to get the most money out of me, and I'd bet most everbody, they should do #1. A year from now, I'm going to have installed a lot of stuff, done a LOT of customizing and unless it's just time to rebuild, I'm REALLY not going to want to reinstall. I would be HAPPY to pay for Ultimate at that point. The alternative is go back to Vista which I've already paid for or reboot every 2 hours. Neither are good for me, so I'll start looking for a crack. Time is money, and I'd spend way more money rebuilding to get off the RC than I'd spend paying for an ultimate license.

But, I'd bet Microsoft is going #2. No betting actually, that's the plan. So they're going to have a bunch of people who are just going to deal with reboots. Then there will be a bunch of people who are going to go the cracking route. Then there's the people who are going to pay, but will downgrade because they don't use all that ultimate crap anyway. And what's left, are the people who fall in line and do what M$ wants them too. But think of all the money they could have gotten from the others, had they only offered an upgrade path...

And it's not like it's a complicated upgrade, just replace the part of the system that makes this an RC build! That's got to be easier than a service pack!

Re:An upgrade is technically possible... (1)

alta (1263) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908261)

Full disclosure, I expect that between the time the full version is released, and this one expires, I will have a need to reinstall.

I'm the BOFH here, and when someone needs a new, snazzy fast computer, I order me a new one and they get mine. Trickle down economics really does work! I think dell just came out with some new models :)

Re:An upgrade is technically possible... (1)

Phase Shifter (70817) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908451)

A year from now, I'm going to have installed a lot of stuff, done a LOT of customizing and unless it's just time to rebuild, I'm REALLY not going to want to reinstall.

A year from now, I'll still have all my important stuff on my XP partition, which I will upgrade to Win7.

Before the upgrade, any data worth saving from the old Win7 partition will be copied to my 2nd hard drive, then copied back to my new Win7 installation after the upgrade.

Then I'll probably convert the old Win7 partition back from NTFS to EXT3 (or maybe EXT4 by then, depending) and reinstall Ubuntu (provided I can get their boot manager to work with my hard drive geometry, which it hasn't in about 2 years).

Who cares? (5, Insightful)

Aliencow (653119) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908133)

Why is this being posted over and over on very tech site?

Who cares?
You're installing a beta or a release candidate. Do you expect it to be supported forever?

And are we really surprised Microsoft put in just a tiny bit of protection to prevent the average joe from continuing to use Windows 7 RC forever?

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27908287)

You're installing a beta or a release candidate. Do you expect it to be supported forever?

No, but is it really so hard for microsoft to sell a cd that will patch the RC install by subtracting out the part that makes it reboot every 2 hours and adding in the differences between the RC and the final retail version?

Re:Who cares? (1)

Aliencow (653119) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908597)

I believe this is not necessary. You should not be playing with RCs and betas on machine you use for actual work, and it could end up creating a lot of support problems for Microsoft from people who installed older versions.

This is a good thing (5, Insightful)

amaiman (103647) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908161)

I'm not sure why people keep bringing up this issue. It's a release candidate being released for evaluation of software that isn't free. If they didn't disable it after a certain date, people would continue to use it indefinitely, and then would expect support as well. By forcing people to upgrade to the release version, it ensures they're not using an old, buggy release candidate. (Whether the final release will be better remains to be seen, of course, this is a Microsoft product, after all :-)

Everyone is given fair warning about this before installing the RC (which shouldn't really be on production systems anyway). If you don't like what you see, then stop using it, otherwise upgrade to the release version when it comes out.

A method to upgrade to release without having to completely reinstall would be nice, but they've never done that in the past and I wouldn't expect to see it done this time, either.

Whats the problem? (1)

ZenDragon (1205104) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908201)

I really dont understand what the big deal about this is. A company offers a 1 year evaluation period on new software, with *gasp* an expiration period! Frankly Im surprised they dont just cut it off altogether, like MOST companies offering evaluation versions of their software go. Although given a year of use that might be a little draconian, as people will probably have information on there they would need to access.

Im all for FOSS and all but damn people, if you really like W7 just pay for the damn thing, or switch to Linux. If you read the official announcements for this release,and didnt just get the iso off a torrent or something, it is clearly stated that there is an evaluation expiration period, this is NOT news.

Slowpoke... (0)

VendettaMF (629699) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908213)

Everyone with the ability to read and any interest of the topic has been aware of this since qwuite some time before the rc download became available.

Windows 7 has become... (0, Troll)

Publikwerks (885730) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908231)

WindowsME

Re:Windows 7 has become... (1)

PhilHibbs (4537) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908327)

Windows ME HARDER!

Re:Windows 7 has become... (1)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908399)

Vista was WindowsME, Windows 7 is Vista SP3. They just want to get rid of the name "Vista" since it's become synonymous with "Fail".

Three months! (1, Troll)

Altreus (1492723) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908295)

You all seem to be missing the point that MS will start shutting down your computer every two hours three months *before* your trial period expires.

So what this means is that Microsoft is exercising its power to turn off your computer at will while you are still within the period in which you are entitled to be using it.

Start turning the PC off afterwards, sure. But not before.

Continuing the trend of poor analogies: that's like them kicking you out of your rent-free house twelve times a day for a quarter of your tenancy period.

Re:Three months! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27908549)

Get over your overblown sense of entitlement.

Starting in March, the system restarts every two hours. Three months later, you won't even be able to log in. Which means that three month window is for you to GET YOUR DAMN DIRTY DATA OF THE SYSTEM.

and Microsoft rewards the testers. (1, Troll)

purpleraison (1042004) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908365)

How generous, Microsoft enlists people to test their next OS, and instead of being rewarded those poor souls get screwed.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Microsoft is trying to get its cake and eat it too.

the day the sun stood still! (1)

MrSaxonite (1521355) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908471)

well who's to say that december 2009 will ever end... just dont connect to the internet (those darn tyme sync services), and the computer will be non the wiser....

Paying for Windows? Really? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27908511)

You mean there are people out there who actually pay for Microsoft's OS's?

That's about as dumb as paying for music...

I thought 7 was supposed to be free? (1, Interesting)

Electric Eye (5518) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908545)

After the debacle of Vista, I could have sworn I read on this very site a few weeks ago that Win 7 was going to offered as a FREE upgrade, at least to Vista users. Am I on crack or did I actually see that story?

sales... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27908557)

i dont think it will cut-down on new sales (e.g. new machines from hp, dell, etc)

it might reduce sales of people who have had vista for a year and hate it. or still have winxp and fear for security (1% of residential customers)

i doubt it will have much issue in the business world, as since most businesses ignored vista and wont install beta/rc code that is going to die on their production machines until its final/stable

This is news? (0, Troll)

jtownatpunk.net (245670) | more than 5 years ago | (#27908571)

Why the F is this on the front page (or any page) of a geek news aggregation site. If you couldn't figure this out based on the information provided by Microsoft (long before you download/install/use/etc.) Windows 7, you've got no business being near a keyboard. Stand up and take two steps back. How much did IT Pro have to pay to get this piece of crap on the front page of slashdot? I hope it was a lot.

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