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Interview With UIzard Creator Ryu Sunt-tae 73

Posted by ScuttleMonkey from the js-library-grudge-match-in-3-2-1 dept.
volume4 writes "A couple of days ago, the folks over at Ajaxian introduced the world to UIzard, an awesome creation by a Korean developer using YUI. There is actually a heck of a lot more about it, and the excitement about the app caused the UIzard website to go down. Most people could not interact with the app or learn more. A day or so later, the website was back but I could still not access the app. I went on a search to find the creator of UIzard to learn more about it, and finally, through Jinho.Jung on Flickr, I got ahold of his email address and hooked up with Ryu Sunt-tae to learn more."
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  • Name spelling; other info links. (Score:5, Informative)

    by davidsyes ( 765062 ) on Friday May 15, 2009 @05:04PM (#27972583) Homepage Journal

    I am 99.999999999999999999999999999999999% sure that his name is supposed to be typed as Ryu Sung-tae (Sung, not Sunt; there is not in my studies of Korean some such name, given, or family...). Besides, g and t on the US / Latin keyboard are adjacent, and all the more this seems to be a typo. If it was a phone interview, with the interviewer making corrections, it's then even possible that his name is Seung, not Sung, as in the director http://www.koreanfilm.org/films2008.html [koreanfilm.org] Ryu Seung-jin.

    Unfortunately, it appears the opensource site seems to have it wrong. But, *i* could be wrong, so maybe you can e-mail him and ask him if his name is actually misspelled on the site.

    For those not aware, the "WI" as in wizard or whiskey in the US/English speakign areas is written in Korean charactes that look in English like "oi", but pronounced making for it to look like "uh-wee-zard". So, it's neat/nifty a spin to have UI and Wi merged for UIzard, instead of just using Wizard....

    Just my two cents...

    Oh, Ajaxjian Link:

    http://ajaxian.com/archives/uizard-a-web-mashup-generator-written-in-yui [ajaxian.com]

    DZone link:

    http://www.dzone.com/links/uizard_a_web_mashup_generator_written_in_yui.html [dzone.com]

    And another, unrelated item:
    http://technews.am/conversations/ajaxian/uizard_a_web_mashup_generator_written_in_yui [technews.am]
    http://technews.am/conversations/ajaxian/3d_cube_using_new_css_transformations [technews.am]

    • Re:Name spelling; other info links. (Score:5, Informative)

      by volume4 ( 1119729 ) on Friday May 15, 2009 @05:20PM (#27972791)
      From his email I have it as: "Best Regards, Ryu Sunt-tae"
    • I really, really thought it was "ULZARD"...

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by kromozone ( 817261 )
      His name in Korean is ë¥ì±ífoe. As mentioned in this article - http://blog.naver.com/PostView.nhn?blogId=ourbelief&logNo=130043884744 [naver.com] That would transliterate as Ryu-Seong-Tae, depending on the transliteration method you use. He may just have decided to transliterate it in his own way, as no one is likely to pronounce it properly anyway unless they can read Korean!

      • Re: (Score:1, Troll)

        by kromozone ( 817261 )
        No UTF on /.? WTF?

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by davidsyes ( 765062 )

        Hmmm, i just figured out the paragraph about him is further down the page. The characters i see are, phonetically, in English:

        1. UIzard -

        ryu seung tae neum

        R character + yu character, both making family name

        S character + -| (i'm using minus and pipe to simulate the "eu" chars that are pronounced as "uh", like mud/bud/scud/flood) and the null char "ng" (circle) beneath "s" and "eu"

        [- (simulating the "t" (single "t" sound, not the double "t" sound/char) left of the "H"-looking char that makes the s

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by RipRock ( 117627 )

      Thanks for the links and you're right. When I first read the name, it sounded Korea at first, but when I saw "Sunt-tae", I figured it can't be since there isn't a Korean word that can sound "Sunt".

      But as the another member pointed out, it was spelled phonetically. And looking at his actual Korean name, ë¥ì±ífoe, it should indeed be "Sung-tae".

  • Problem scaling? (Score:1, Redundant)

    by gmuslera ( 3436 )
    Site getting slashdotted in 3..2..1...

  • I can do a better write-up than that (Score:2, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward

    How about:

    "Activity participated in by some."

    Much more descriptive.

  • A Little Help? (Score:4, Informative)

    by pete-classic ( 75983 ) <hutnick@gmail.com> on Friday May 15, 2009 @05:16PM (#27972743) Homepage Journal

    I mean, would it fucking kill you to make YUI [yahoo.com] a hyper-link in the summary?

    -Peter

    • Added the link Peter ;)

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by sakdoctor ( 1087155 )

      I'm going to wait for the dupe of this story, where hopefully all the bugs will have been ironed out.

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Perhaps [reference.com] you [reference.com] would [reference.com] prefer [reference.com] your [reference.com] article [reference.com] summaries [reference.com] in [reference.com] this [reference.com] vein [reference.com]?

      I have to say some description of what UIzard is or does would be far more relevant and important than a link to YUI, though.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by SEWilco ( 27983 )
      It doesn't matter. Nobody knows what the thing does nor how to use it.

      • What do you mean? [jemr.net]

        • Re: (Score:1)

          by SEWilco ( 27983 )
          Maybe you can describe that page full of icons so we can understand what they are for. Linking to a display of all highway signs doesn't explain what they are for.

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by flyingsquid ( 813711 )
        Ulzard was the name of the monster that fought Godzilla in "Godzilla vs. Ulzard the Cybermonster" and later appeared in Ultraman as Ultraman's arch-nemesis, Ulzard, Lord of the Cybermonsters. The costume was made from the body of a bear suit, a samurai helmet, a bunch of tin foil and duct tape wrapped around the limbs, and a keyboard on his chest. He was pretty popular in the early 1960s, I think, before the company was sued and shut down for ripping off a "Gamera" script too closely. There was talk of a mo

  • Web Dev WYSIWYG in Javascript (Score:3, Informative)

    by Foofoobar ( 318279 ) on Friday May 15, 2009 @05:27PM (#27972883)
    Yet another web dev WYSIWYG done in javascript. Creeps, crashs and crawls whereas a desktop app like Eclipse is far more reliable and stable. Why are people still trying to do this in javascript?

    • Well, as long as he's not spending an inordinate time with The Wonder Girls:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Girls [wikipedia.org]

      or with Li Hyori:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Hyori [wikipedia.org]

      Then i am sure the code will get done... in do.. ummm, due time...

    • Re: (Score:1, Redundant)

      by fuzzix ( 700457 )

      Yet another web dev WYSIWYG done in javascript. Creeps, crashs and crawls whereas a desktop app like Eclipse is far more reliable and stable.

      Hahaha.

      Oh wait, you were serious. Let me laugh even harder - HAW HAW HAW!

      • Your nervous laughter denotes a sense of ignorance and fear. You either have no clue what you are talking about or no clue what you are doing.

  • From the article, for the lazy (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward

    And so it was said...

    UIzard(User Interface Wizard) is a tool that helps users create UIâ(TM)s easily. Basically, the user can create UI pages based on YUI, and develop an application by writing the functionality according to specific events(click or drag) for each UI object. (like in Visual Studio or XCode...) The result is generated on the basis of HTML and JS. Uizardâ(TM)s goal is to be a general web-based development tool like Google Docs or Spreadsheet, the web-based office tool. However, it's just a beta-version at the experimentation stage, so I hope to keep your interest and look forward to its future.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by SEWilco ( 27983 )
      That description also applies to a web scraper written with PHP objects. I doubt there's excitement over a web scraper tool, so further description is needed.

  • So what the hell is it? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by vondo ( 303621 ) on Friday May 15, 2009 @05:32PM (#27972929)

    Apart from "awesome"?

  • Hadouken (Score:1, Offtopic)

    by Boronx ( 228853 )

    Has Ryu managed restore his hadouken yet?

  • that's better luck than I have with craigslist.

  • "A couple of days ago, the folks over at Ajaxian introduced the world to UIzard, an awesome creation by a Korean developer using YUI. There is actually a heck of a lot more about it, and the excitement about the app caused the UIzard website to go down

    "Awesome" should be expelled from the vocabulary of anyone over the age of consent.

  • I like summaries to summarize things. That way I know if i may actually be interested in the article's subject. This fails. This is written like a bad Saturday Night Live skit in which the punchline is that the subject is never mentioned.
  • So why didn't he just host it on SourceForge? :
  • Kudos to the guy for a well done implementation, but he's applied the wrong tools to the problem. Running an IDE inside a web browser is very inefficient, and completely ignores the better (and widely used) choice of using an OS native UI library.

    • You don't get it do you?

      The whole point of this is to NOT USE THE OS NATIVE UI. It is the web baby. You want to use a web UI library.

      Perhaps you meant to use a OS tool to design a web UI but that leads to all other sorts of problems. Plus, if he can do the UI designer of his UI with his UI, then it got to be good.

      Would you use a code editor that wasn't coded with itself?

  • Well, I am thoroughly impressed with the humility this guy shows in his replies. 99% of the slashdot posters could learn something from that.

    Instead of throwing around unfounded accusations, calling people 'stupid', blowing their own horns even if they are very young and have accomplished nothing worth mentioning in life.

    Go read the last paragraph of the interview.

    • The world can definitely use more people such as yourself. Thanks!

    • Exactly. Clearly this guy is not full of himself but has a healthy respect for the size of the task he is taking on, and the importance of the input of others:

      I have many more ideas to make the web-environment richer than the results I have actually implemented apart from UIzard. However it is so hard to do those things all by myself because I've never carried out or even joined an Open Source Project. I know nothing about it and I don't know how to make it work. I keep my eyes and ears open all the time. I

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