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Hosting a Highly Inflammatory Document?

Soulskill posted more than 5 years ago | from the information-wants-to-be-free,-particularly-the-juicy-stuff dept.

Government 471

IndianaKim writes "I have been asked if I can host or assist in hosting a highly inflammatory document that reflects poorly on a Police Department. I want to help, but I also do not want the headache and possible subjection to search warrants and/or illegal searches. The document is so inflammatory that it could interest the FBI and DoJ and cause them to investigate the government officials involved. I live in the same county, but not the same city, and therefore could be subject to a search (legal or not) by some of these government agencies. I have been asked to host it on a server outside of the US. At this time, I do not have the ability to do that, but I could set it up if I needed to. My question is: would you host it if you were asked? How would you go about protecting the document and yourself?"

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I know where . . . (5, Informative)

arizwebfoot (1228544) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974367)

Wikileaks dude

Re:I know where . . . (1, Redundant)

Grey Loki (1427603) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974381)

Second suggestion for Wikileaks - it's pretty much what it's made for.

Re:I know where . . . (4, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974477)

I third. Leave this one to the professionals.

You wouldn't want to have your local hometown heroes shoot you and plant a dime bag on your corpse or anything.

Re:I know where . . . (5, Informative)

fm6 (162816) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974579)

Good point about "the professionals". For one thing, Wikileaks is smart enough not to go to Slashdot for legal advice. They'd go to a lawyer, who'd tell you that local authorities can hold a local person accountable for web content, regardless of where it's hosted.

Re:I know where . . . (3, Insightful)

belmolis (702863) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974715)

Actually, he didn't come here for legal advice. It sounds like he's asking for technical advice. And your legal point is irrelevant - if he can mask his role in distributing the document, the legal powers of the police will be irrelevant. If they don't know who he is, they can't harass him.

Re:I know where . . . (4, Funny)

interkin3tic (1469267) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974823)

Good point about "the professionals". For one thing, Wikileaks is smart enough not to go to Slashdot for legal advice.

The fools, where else can you get expert IANAL legal advice? I mean besides Jack Thompson?

Re:I know where . . . (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974491)

If this document is so inflammatory, why not print up several copies and slip them under the local news building front doors? They will be shielded relatively well from legal abuse.

Re:I know where . . . (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974525)

That's a terrible idea, print is traceable.

Re:I know where . . . (2, Informative)

geekboy642 (799087) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974663)

Print is only technically traceable. Your local PD will not have access to a database that links the inkjet patterns to your name. If, in fact, such a mythical database even exists (doubtful, requires competence from the government and honesty from corporations), it is not a simple matter to perform a lookup. GP's suggestion is near perfect.

Re:I know where . . . (1)

rachit (163465) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974769)

Well, you could also cut out letters out of newspapers and magazines and reconstruct the document that way. That way it is less traceable... especially if you use magazines and newspapers from around the country.

Only problem is it might take a some time, and it might freak the hell out whoever first sees the document... :)

Re:I know where . . . (1)

Cocoshimmy (933014) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974793)

I have to agree with you on this one. But if they're super paranoid, buy a flash drive and copy the document there, in plain text format or one that does not store metadata if possible. If there is a way to trace that back to the copier I'd be surprised.

Re:I know where . . . (1)

JWSmythe (446288) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974805)

    50 copies on the well worn coin fed copy machine at your local grocery store, shipping store, etc. As a note, wear gloves, or when you print them, be sure to dispose of the first and last copies (the ones with your fingerprints on them).

    If it's so nasty that the police will retaliate, they're going to fingerprint them to see if they can find the source.

    An anonymous drop at all the local and quasi-local publications (like state/regional TV stations and newspapers) will go a long way.

    Sure, they may gather the surveillance tapes to try to figure out who did it, so a few copies on various days would work very well. That, or buy an old scanner/printer from a yard sale for cash, and have at it.

    I wouldn't worry too much about them tracing the source, but then again, paranoia isn't just a psychological problem, it's a protective mechanism. :)

Re:I know where . . . (1)

MikeFM (12491) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974511)

Stick it on Google Sites too. They have the bulk to resist local police departments.

Re:I know where . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974771)

I am pretty sure they would remove whatever the authorities asked them to remove.

Re:I know where . . . (3, Interesting)

evanbd (210358) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974529)

That, or Freenet.

Re:I know where . . . (1)

unlametheweak (1102159) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974609)

Wikileaks dude

Slashdot should get first dibs here. Post it through an off-shore proxy server in a country that isn't subservient to US requests).

Re:I know where . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974671)

and where would that be ?

Re:I know where . . . (1)

unlametheweak (1102159) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974737)

and where would that be ?

Hint; if the country has a bank that is considered to be a tax haven, then that country probably has other types of haven-like businesses. Google, as usual, is your friend here, as well as good quality Web sites that teach about privacy, or maybe even Wikileaks has information to good resources. Of course there is Tor, or Tor used in combination with professional proxies.

Re:I know where . . . (1)

Anachragnome (1008495) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974677)

That works great until said country "sees the light" and aligns with the U.S., or any other country that already is.

Wikileaks is all about leaks and has no interest in selling anyone out in the foreseeable future. They would be doomed if they did.

Re:I know where . . . (1)

unlametheweak (1102159) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974775)

That works great until said country "sees the light" and aligns with the U.S., or any other country that already is.

Generally good quality professional businesses of this sort don't keep logs, or keep logs for very short periods of time (i.e. by the time a formal request for information is made, the logs have been cleared). I'm not up-to-date on specific businesses (I don't use them personally) so I won't mention any.

Re:I know where . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974629)

Wikileaks is the way to go. Then you might want to slip a note under a news crew's door.

Re:I know where . . . (1)

arcsine (541576) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974681)

Give it to cryptome.org

1. Upload to Wikileaks with Xerobank 2. Link to It (5, Informative)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974373)

Assuming you & your friend are aware or desire that once this hits the internet it is forever online for all to see, you have friends across the pond [wikileaks.org] . Yes, this is foreign hosting.

Assuming the document is small, you could install Xerobank [xerobank.com] (formerly TorPark) and create an account on Wikileaks and upload it to Wikileaks through the Tor onion router. Your anonymity would be assured in a hilariously sound manner.

Your website need do nothing more than link to Wikileaks and ponder how it got there.

That would be my plan of action. I would also be careful with all the machines/devices used to transfer that file.

Depending on how important/inflammable this document is, I might look into buying a cheap 20GB laptop hard drive, installing ubuntu, going to a star bucks, doing the above and then "disposing" of the drive and all media so that there are no questions. Sorry to sound like Harvey Keitel on Pulp Fiction but ... when you're dealing with serious stuff ...

My question is: would you host it if you were asked? How would you go about protecting the document and yourself?

It depends on who is asking me. There are maybe 5 or 6 people in my life that if they approached me with this request and said it was serious and said it had to be me hosting it, I would do it no questions ask. I would not read the document, I would stop them from explaining to me what is the document, I would do it and give them the link. I would then go directly to my lawyer and have a small chat with him. Then I would grab a glass of Chivas Regal and put on a record and take the battery out of my cell phone and relax.

Re:1. Upload to Wikileaks with Xerobank 2. Link to (2, Funny)

liquidsin (398151) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974461)

Depending on how important/inflammable this document is,...

i always found it odd that flammable and inflammable mean exactly the same thing...

Re:1. Upload to Wikileaks with Xerobank 2. Link to (2, Funny)

v3lut (123906) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974567)

They don't.

Inflammable is when it's MORE than Flammable.

Just ask the Infamous El Guapo.

Re:1. Upload to Wikileaks with Xerobank 2. Link to (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974711)

Whoosh

Re:1. Upload to Wikileaks with Xerobank 2. Link to (1)

mrsteveman1 (1010381) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974831)

Inflammable means only flammable when in something else

Re:1. Upload to Wikileaks with Xerobank 2. Link to (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974489)

It's posts like this that make me fall in love with /. all over again!!

Re:1. Upload to Wikileaks with Xerobank 2. Link to (1, Offtopic)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974783)

Word.

Re:1. Upload to Wikileaks with Xerobank 2. Link to (5, Funny)

v3lut (123906) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974581)

Depending on how important/inflammable this document is, I might look into buying a cheap 20GB laptop hard drive, installing ubuntu, going to a star bucks, doing the above and then "disposing" of the drive and all media so that there are no questions.

You could probably sell the hard drive on eBay, make a few bucks. I wouldn't worry about scrubbing it tho. Nobody checks those things.

Re:1. Upload to Wikileaks with Xerobank 2. Link to (5, Funny)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974669)

Depending on how important/inflammable this document is, I might look into buying a cheap 20GB laptop hard drive, installing ubuntu, going to a star bucks, doing the above and then "disposing" of the drive and all media so that there are no questions.

You could probably sell the hard drive on eBay, make a few bucks. I wouldn't worry about scrubbing it tho. Nobody checks those things.

Well, I have several problems with that. One is that it is uncharacteristic of me to sell something on ebay. Especially hardware like that. This could be easily seen as odd behavior leading them to the drive. The other is that it's probably becoming common to check drives for interesting stuff when you buy them on eBay. The other is that I don't care about the money a 20GB drive would net me if I'm dealing with the law.

No, I am afraid my course of action would be to vigorously scrub the drive, take the drive apart and spot weld the platters together to make a set of ugly ass coasters with magnets attached as feet to the coaster. I would keep the set in plain view in my living room. Then one day when a guest inquired about them I could say, "Funny story ..."

Re:1. Upload to Wikileaks with Xerobank 2. Link to (1)

v3lut (123906) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974713)

irony - noun : the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning

Re:1. Upload to Wikileaks with Xerobank 2. Link to (2, Interesting)

PopeRatzo (965947) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974835)

One is that it is uncharacteristic of me to sell something on ebay.

You don't want to sell it there, you want to buy the 20gig hard drive there. Or, go to a local used computer store. They've probably got 300 10-20 gig laptop hard drives laying around collecting dust.

Also, if you don't have first-hand knowledge of the facts in this "inflammatory document" be sure you trust the person presenting it to you with your life (or at least your freedom). If the contents of the document point to a single person (or even 20 persons) who could be the only ones who could have made this document public, it's trivial for a police department, even a local bunch of Barneys, to sweat the 20 people until the one who gave you the document also gives you up.

I'm inclined to believe that a journalist is the best person to make this public. They also tend to have impressive backbone when it comes to keeping a whistleblower's name secret. In fact, it's what they live for, at least the good ones.

No matter what the contents of the document, if it's really "inflammatory" and not just a way to fuck with someone, I bet there's a righteous organization somewhere that will do the heavy lifting for you.

Use Tor (5, Insightful)

RPoet (20693) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974595)

Why use Xerobank, a commercial service? I recommend installing Tor (which is free) and accessing Wikileaks only through their .onion address, http://gaddbiwdftapglkq.onion/ [gaddbiwdftapglkq.onion] . That way you don't use any exit servers, so nobody can sniff your traffic or even know that you're talking to Wikileaks except Wikileaks themselves (who won't know who you are).

Re:1. Upload to Wikileaks with Xerobank 2. Link to (3, Informative)

rcw-home (122017) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974619)

Your anonymity would be assured in a hilariously sound manner.

That's assuming there's nothing in the document itself that only a particular author would write. That's how they ended up identifying the unibomber.

Re:1. Upload to Wikileaks with Xerobank 2. Link to (2, Insightful)

twidarkling (1537077) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974731)

Except that would only lead them to the author, not the person who uploaded it. And if this person's trusting you that much, I doubt they'd give you up to the cops, especially when they're *the author*. Who cares about the distributor at that point, unless you're going for a "salt the earth" strategy.

Re:1. Upload to Wikileaks with Xerobank 2. Link to (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974635)

You could use an existing laptop with an os installed on a flash drive or a live cd, buy a cheap $10 usb wifi adapter and chuck both the cd + wifi in the trash for about $20. Just a fyi ;)

Re:1. Upload to Wikileaks with Xerobank 2. Link to (4, Informative)

Emnar (116467) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974691)

Depending on how important/inflammable this document is, I might look into buying a cheap 20GB laptop hard drive, installing ubuntu, going to a star bucks, doing the above and then "disposing" of the drive and all media so that there are no questions.

For this to work you would also have to change your wireless interface's Ethernet MAC (hardware) address. By default this is a vendor-specific code that is probably unique enough that it could be used to link you to the upload. This would require that (a) the coffee shop kept some kind of long-term logging on their wireless device, (b) the authorities were able to trace the upload to the coffee shop, and (c) the police had some kind of suspicion of you already. All are improbable, but none are impossible.

Most wireless cards will let you change the hardware address. I'll leave instructions for how to do that to the enterprising googler.

The alternative is to use a cheap throwaway laptop with wireless, or a disposable wireless ethernet card.

(Yes, it's paranoid, but so is the original question.)

Re:1. Upload to Wikileaks with Xerobank 2. Link to (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974695)

Or email it to cryptome.

Re:1. Upload to Wikileaks with Xerobank 2. Link to (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974827)

Depending on how important/inflammable this document is, I might look into buying a cheap 20GB laptop hard drive, installing ubuntu, going to a star bucks, doing the above and then "disposing" of the drive and all media so that there are no questions.

They are most likely to be traced by the mac address of the laptop they use at starbucks so I would suggest disposing of the wifi device as well.

There's no TIME to lose.... (3, Funny)

davidsyes (765062) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974377)

To borrow from Captain Braxton. And, To borrow from /. and Terminator 2, and more from Trek you will need to start with:

-- 5 million sun-block,
-- super-mega tinfoil hat, polymorphic
-- Federation Timeship Aeon, mk IV
-- Subspace polarization inhibitor, non-time-domain-collapsing
-- Fluidic Gateway to unlimited supply of Ketracel White
-- Vidian anti-aging/anti-phaging cream

because one, more or all of the cogizant agencies may have reasons to knock your ass across 5 timelines, 27 dimensions, dozens of gender and species reassignments, and multiple states of matter...

GOOD LUCK!

(I survived my own ordeal, but it was QUITE a harrowing experience eludi$_#$#@#*_#@*_*$_*&#&_$(+$%$)

Yes. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974397)

Like Hell I would. Something of as high a caliber as you describe MUST be released, nothing else.

wikileaks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974401)

wikileaks.org nuff said

Few things (1)

EkriirkE (1075937) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974417)

Tor + various upload sites
hate to say it, but spam forums (signed up w/ Tor) w/ a random link to above suggestion

But your (possible) name and location are already on teh intertubes relating to a about-to-be-released inflammatory document.

Re:Few things (1)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974463)

That's the dog's name.

Re:Few things (1)

BorgAssimilator (1167391) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974741)

But your (possible) name and location are already on teh intertubes relating to a about-to-be-released inflammatory document.

While that's true, it still doesn't link the person to the document, so they're sill ok.

Actually, let me rephrase that: They _should_ be ok. There is no direct evidence that connects the two, just circumstantial evidence. However, even though I don't think that would be enough to prove anything, you never know with this government... (oh, and IANAL)

Re:Few things (1)

Daniel_Staal (609844) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974843)

Who cares what they can prove? Do they have enough to claim and hold all his possible computing devices as evidence?

That's deterrent enough for a lot of things, really.

Slashdot it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974427)

Post it here on Slashdot from a 'net cafe hundreds of miles away using an onion routing anonymizing proxy. Problem solved.

But first ask the question about it here and be sure to include enough identifying information that they'll be able to track you down anyway.

Re:Slashdot it (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974499)

net cafe hundreds of miles away using an onion routing anonymizing proxy. Problem solved.

Bad idea. Most cyber cafes i've seen have cctv.

Re:Slashdot it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974605)

Good point (cctv)! Be sure to hire someone off the street to do it for you with cash. But dye your hair first.

Re:Slashdot it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974773)

No, just drive to a nearby hill or mountain top, find a secluded spot, and use a yagi to go online via someone's open wifi (after randomizing your host's MAC and firewalling all non-onion routed traffic).

Put it on Youtube (1)

doginthewoods (668559) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974429)

NT

Dude... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974443)

Post it on /b/. You can trust Anon. He's from the internet.

Hmm... Username is "IndianaKim" (3, Funny)

bbk (33798) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974447)

I think we know where to send the black helicopters!

Re:Hmm... Username is "IndianaKim" (1)

FlyingSquidStudios (1031284) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974599)

No! That's what they WANT you to think!

IndianaKim writes.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974451)

oops, cats out...

Host it or don't. (0, Troll)

santax (1541065) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974465)

Simple, either you host it cause you feel that the document is important enough. Or you don't. Now this question seems to me a bit like: I want to be a hero but I don't have the balls. And this I say as a long time active member of Amnesty. Either you stand up to things you don't like, or you remain silent forever. Good luck with your decision.

Re:Host it or don't. (3, Insightful)

fastest fascist (1086001) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974645)

Simple, either you host it cause you feel that the document is important enough. Or you don't.

Important enough for what? Important enough to justify the risk. What you call a simple choice isn't. To make that decision, the OP has to know what the possible consequences of their actions are, and the chances they will have to face them, and weigh that against the importance of the information in question. To know the risk, they have to weigh their options for publishing, the chances of adverse consequences being linked to the amount of personal exposure involved in going public. A person might perform an act that has a chance of landing them in jail, but might decline to do so if it were certain they would be imprisoned for it.

What seems to you like a case of "not having the balls" seems to me like someone weighing their options and trying to make a rational decision.

Re:Host it or don't. (3, Insightful)

santax (1541065) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974743)

I don't agree with you. If we would think like that nothing would ever get done. If the brave men in WW2 had that spirit of mind I would be speaking German. If you know that you have something in your hands that can be important for others you should not hide that information. If you have proof there are corrupt cops, it's your duty as a person to do everything within your powers to make sure the word gets out. If you don't you can make that same document public 5 years from now and it will still be accurate. And that would be 5 long years for everyone who felt victim to whatever that documents says.

Re:Host it or don't. (4, Insightful)

rackserverdeals (1503561) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974687)

How appropriate considering the other story today [slashdot.org] .

Well said. You do what's right even if it means it won't be easy. The good news is, we live in a country where the chances of being assassinated by government officials is not as great.

My opinion to the submitter...

Could mean some headaches, so prepare for them by consulting with an attorney.

More importantly, if this is something that the FBI or other agencies are going to be interested as you say, then why not go straight to them?

Don't put something out on the internet because it's cool to do so. That's not the right way. Take it through the proper legal channels. Then if it doesn't go forward, you put it out in the wild.

You didn't give details, but it is possible that leaking the information could hinder any potential investigation that the FBI or whoever may need to conduct to get more evidence.

Re:Host it or don't. (1)

choconutdancer (576542) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974799)

I think you're being overly harsh on the guy. You may be an "active member of Amnesty" but he isn't. Your criticism may be better aimed at the person who made the document - he could post it himself, he could publicly email it to everyone he knows, but instead he's asking someone else to release it for him so he can remain hidden. He's asking a friend to put himself on the line to do something he won't do himself publicly (and I'm not blaming him for it either). The poster has balls enough to come here publicly asking for advice. At least he's trying to help and asking for advice on how best to do it. Your criticism of him is undeserved.

A new domain (1)

AlHunt (982887) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974471)

Just buy a new domain, give it anonymous contact info and stick it on a free webhost somewhere offshore.

Re:A new domain (1)

RPoet (20693) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974535)

Bad advice. The police can make registrars give up the real contact details of any anonymous domain.

Re:A new domain (1)

rackserverdeals (1503561) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974707)

I think other registrars can see that info as well.

4chan (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974473)

I reckon posting it on 4chan would do the trick

am curious (5, Funny)

bugi (8479) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974487)

Now I'm curious. Be sure to post another story pointing to the wikileaks url once it goes up.

let wikileaks host it (1)

shareme (897587) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974497)

let wikileaks host it as they are very experienced in dealing with those issue

Don't do it if it's that risky. (1)

Pichu0102 (916292) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974509)

More than likely, if it's that bad that you'd end up investigated or arrested or even "disappeared" it's not worth it. If they've managed to keep it hidden, they can cover it up and blame you for falsifying if they want to.

Just don't do it. If they're corrupt enough that what you say exists really exists, they'll either trip up and fall into the public eye, or destroy you and have people rally to their side, not yours.

Re:Don't do it if it's that risky. (1)

EkriirkE (1075937) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974573)

If this is the case, make vids like the Guatemalan guy - but frequently and post on youtube to keep the public up-to-date on your still-livingness, plus post often to somewhere online where you have a friend base. All thru tor so your movement isn't tracked.

Re:Don't do it if it's that risky. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974627)

Thanks for that. It's good to know you'll stand with us. Thanks for reinforcing my belief in humanity.

Uh (2, Interesting)

moogied (1175879) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974521)

What?? Its the internet man.. no no. I take that back. Its the "Web 2.0", just throw it on EVERY social network outlet you can find, host it on blogs, etc etc. Facebook, myspace, youtube(read it.), blogspot, email it to everyone you can find in the media, etc etc. Once its on the internet it can't go away. If you want a centralized place to point to then make it a torrent on pirates bay. Not easy enough? Fine, post it on blogspot and a 20$/month web hosting service. One of two things will happen:

1. No one will care and this won't be an issue.

2. Someone out there will find it, talk about it, and then that one hosting site you use will have its pre-allocated bandwidth tapped out in mere hours. If that happens, it won't matter because the site pointed to the youtube, facebook, myspace, and the torrent.

Balls Out (5, Insightful)

sexconker (1179573) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974531)

Post it everywhere.
Don't hide.
Print that shit out and nail it to the wall, Martin Luther style.

Re:Balls Out (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974829)

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasent Martin Luther assasinated?

I think this fellow wishes to avoid such a messy end.

FreeNet (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974533)

Yet another reason for us all to be using it.

And you say you live in a Free Society? (4, Interesting)

dyfet (154716) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974537)

"Some say that power comes with responsibility, but this is not correct. Freedom is responsibility, and if one fails to be responsible for their own freedom then those who claim 'power' will become responsible for your freedom, and both will be taken from you." - me

So basically because you fear the ability of law enforcement to abuse their powers in ways that may harm you personally, you are afraid to host this document that I have to presume relates to revealing some potentially illegal police activities? The press refuses to carry this story? And people say they live in a free society, when they are free only to be afraid of the power of government??

Let me say this. If I had such documents, well, speaking from their presumed perspective and content, I would choose to host them. I would do so proudly. And I would share them with others to host as well, openly, without question. I would make sure they were also mirrored of course on something outside the U.S. as I do have resources for that. But I would happily apply my own resources to host them also.

Fascism happens when the efficiency and fear of the state becomes more important than the freedom and rights of the people.

Re:And you say you live in a Free Society? (5, Interesting)

guyminuslife (1349809) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974633)

The point of a free society is not that power is never abused, it's that there are effective mechanisms for opposing the abuse of power.

Which is what is happening.

Post it on 4chan (3, Insightful)

jessecurry (820286) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974543)

4Chan is where it's at... just scan it and post it.

Well, since we're all wondering.... (2)

martin_henry (1032656) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974547)

...I can think of a few interesting ways. they all start with cleaning the document of any metadata which points to you, then:

1. drop it on many small thumbdrives around your city/county & watch just about everyone get arrested.
2. buy a fax machine, find a landline no one's watching & fax to everywhere for which you can find a fax number.
3. zip it, label it as the latest Britney single and put it on limewire or rapidshare

HavenCo (1, Informative)

slashqwerty (1099091) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974549)

HavenCo [wikipedia.org] used to host anything but child porn. They have a few more restrictions now but I think they would have no issue host criticism of a police department. They are based out of Sealand, an independent micronation sitting on a former World War II Maunsell Sea Fort [wikipedia.org] .

FFS... Post it here on slashdot (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974553)

Just post it here (as AC if you wish) and get it over and done with :-)

FFS (1)

goldcd (587052) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974571)

Grow some would you?
Infinite number of places you could upload it. If it's of any interest, you can be guaranteed that the copying/rehosting will preserve it.
Mail it to a journalist or two from a paper that might be interested if you want to speed up the process.

Grow a pair (5, Interesting)

Planesdragon (210349) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974575)

This document is "so inflamatory it might interest the DoJ or FBI"?

Then send it to them. Or, if it's valid at all, send it to the closest trustworthy newspaper you can find. Or if nothing else, HIRE A CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYER so you know where the line is where you need to stop -- and so you know what to do if an illegal search comes up.

A random document on the internet means NOTHING to an investigative agency. You might as well walk up and make a random phone call from a stolen cell phone. It's not even probable cause to investigate if you don't have a name to go with the charge.

Go home, read the Constitution again, and decide if you want to help someone throw mud for zero effect, or if you want to actually see change. Our forefathers fought and died for our right to speak what we believe to be true; you are a coward if you will only exercise that when there is zero effect.

(Oh, and for the main question: no, I wouldn't. And I wouldn't try hosting it overseas, either; few countries have as strong a free speech protection as the United States.)

sorry... (0, Troll)

zxnos (813588) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974577)

sorry dude, you are already under investigation...

The black helicopter has already taken off dude (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974583)

Better put on that flak jacket and tin-foil hat right now.

Actually, you need not do it that way. Every police department has an overseeing organization of sorts - just send it to them.

Isn't this slashdot article... (4, Informative)

Daemonax (1204296) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974589)

Isn't this slashdot article enough to cause problems for you? If corrupt police suspect you have information that could harm them, then what is to stop them from causing problems for you? They're already corrupt aren't they?

I would say put it on wikileaks as fast as you can.

I'm not a lawyer though, so perhaps there are reasons to not do this? Perhaps contact a lawyer first. Give them a copy of the documents.

Re:Isn't this slashdot article... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974779)

And what if you talk to the one doctor that knows the crooked cops?

Just upload it to wikileaks first, THEN talk to a TRUSTED lawyer.

Bittorrent (1)

bogaboga (793279) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974607)

Bittorrent would be wonderful.

use a payphone (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974613)

It's all quite easy if you can find an obscure pay phone that still works and will let you make 800 calls. Get yourself an acoustic coupler and find one of those free dial up accounts. Set up some sort of old laptop, that you found in the trash, to dial in using a script. You could also have it dial in to a bunch of different services to keep them off your track for awhile. Next set up a dyna DNS account and set up the laptop to update it. Hide the laptop somewhere in the phone booth. You will also need to steal power for the laptop from somewhere so get a dc-dc converter and steal the power off of the phone line going to the booth. No one ever uses pay phones anymore but you might want to leave something nasty in the booth to keep the homeless out.

why the location statement? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974617)

"I live in the same county, but not the same city, and therefore could be subject to a search"

I'm curious as to why you think your residence situation is of any importance in the matter.

Posting on Slashdot? (5, Funny)

basementman (1475159) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974631)

Well the first thing I would do is post about it on Slashdot under my username. That way the cops could have absolutely no way to trace it back to me.

How It's done (3, Interesting)

b4upoo (166390) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974639)

Certain lawyers have faced a very similar issue. They have learned to live outside of cities and counties that they sue. They have also learned to use drivers and never, ever drive in those cities and counties.
        I also had one friend whose home was burned when her husband ran for county sheriff.
        All in all it is better to be rather remote from the people who may feel endangered by your actions. It it involves crime it may be organized and deadly.

Do what's right. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974649)

Do what is right. Always.

Consider this: If you do post it, then you may get those who abuse power (like the ones you speak of, those who are okay with the illegal searches) removed from those positions.

If you don't post it, then they will remain where they are.

"First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the trade unionists, but I was not a trade unionist, so I didn't speak up.
Then they camp for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me." -- NiemÃller

Think twice (5, Funny)

TastelessGarbage (598415) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974653)

Son, you do not want to get on a police shitlist. This will impact your life in a Very Bad Way for years to come.

Best to do it from the computer of someone that you genuinely despise. This makes it a 2-for-1 when the cops and their associates go after the other guy.

What exactly are you afraid of though? (4, Insightful)

intx13 (808988) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974705)

It depends what you're worried about. If you're concerned about it being proven that you were part of the distribution of the document, then any of the suggestions posed so far will work. Buy a new hard drive, encrypt it, receive the document to it from a USB device (destroy the USB device afterwards). Upload to Wikileaks from the encrypted drive. Destroy the drive.

However if you are more concerned with being thought to have been part of the distribution (as that is, after all, what's going to get you raided) then you have a bigger problem. You don't care so much whether in 5 years anybody can show you were involved, you only care about right now, can you stay under the radar.

I would build a suitable alibi (get out of town) and then receive the document from the source. Afterwards, have a change of heart, convince the source that you are NOT going to host it anywhere, convince them you have destroyed the media, and lay low for a while.

Then upload it to WikiLeaks at your leisure. If your source is convinced that you didn't upload it the Man hopefully won't think so either.

Just pay a Nigerian spammer to do it. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#27974717)

Have them e-mail it to everybody in their lists, somebody is bound to get it.

Paranoid much? (2, Interesting)

bluesk1d (982728) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974719)

Good grief you are paranoid. People spread misinformation and lies about my department on a daily basis. No one cares. You really think some information of questionable validity about some local agency is going to result in a super-secret national alliance of corrupt local agency hit squad coming to find you and search your mom's basement only to have any evidence obtained thrown out for a 4th amendment violation? You watch too many movies, dude.

SNeaker net the doc (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974757)

to the library, upload it to wikileaks from there.

Put it on a thumb drives and send them to news sources.

Anon delivery it to the AG.

DO all of those.

Or get a lawyers and find out what you can do and how to behave and what to say if the police come to your door.

Follow your gut (1)

Suisho (1423259) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974763)

I don't know whats in it- but most likely I'd refer to another (outside alleged offenders power circle) person/ region to host. Though, wikileaks does not sound bad at all. Getting on "the people in charge" bad side, when they already have been doing wrong is like a neon sign for trouble. If they've done real bad shit- they are willing to do it to you too or far worse, and justify it with a signature, paperwork and someones pay raise. Careful what you say- like others have pointed out- posting here isn't necessarily a good option. You were vague- yet sometimes tiny scattered footprints lead to a path. Also- most importantly, follow your gut. If it seems like something that needs to be done, do it. Just do it safe, do it right and do it the best you can. There is only one chance at this: once it is out it is out.

Anonymous Coward (1)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974833)

I would have started the process by posting as an AC to Slashdot, rather than a name that has an e-mail address attached to it.

Too Late (1)

az1324 (458137) | more than 5 years ago | (#27974845)

Your questionably ambiguous username plus your statements that you live in the same county covered by the document mean that once it gets out it won't be that hard to find you. Start running!

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