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Thai Gaming Sites Ordered Shut Down After Suicide

Soulskill posted more than 4 years ago | from the completely-reasonable-reaction dept.

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eldavojohn writes "Seventy-two websites have been ordered shut down by the courts in Thailand following the suicide of a 12-year-old boy who jumped from the sixth story of his school after his father banned him from playing computer games. This brings more action from the court: 'Some websites are rumored to take in over 100 million baht from online betting a night at peak periods, causing huge economic losses to the country. To prevent online gambling, the DSI, also a member of the internet safety committee, would notify all Internet service providers across the country about the court order. From now on, any provider found to encourage or provide online gambling will not only face a jail term and a fine, but also have his/her ISP license revoked by the ICT.' Thailand is no stranger to internet censorship of various sites."

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Online gambling (4, Informative)

Brian Gordon (987471) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071471)

It's illegal in the United States too. Well, sort of [wikipedia.org]. And this is !gaming it's online poker and such. Also 100 million baht is a million dollars. Shrug.

ATTENTION! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28072225)

Tag as "twentydollars" for the hundred million baht...

Re:Online gambling (0, Flamebait)

Hojima (1228978) | more than 4 years ago | (#28072313)

from TFA

There were several factors that drove people [an alarming rate] to commit suicide. Family problems topped the list. Other factors included physical and mental problems, economic hardships, poor income and unemployment.

I think I see what's going on here. People might start to realize how shitty their government is if they don't start bringing up red herrings. Otherwise, they wouldn't implement the same action that caused a kid to kill himself on everyone else.

From someone who cares... (1)

fibrewire (1132953) | more than 4 years ago | (#28072679)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addiction [wikipedia.org]

How come there isn't software to identify addiction? Or government agencies? Or social groups? My strip club addiction is poison to my wallet and my life. Where's my handout? I think we as people should have identified this long ago. It's not any kind of particular addiction, it's addiction itself. If we had it burned in at an early age on how to identify and combat, then no more global warming, no more WOW binges, no more drug cartels, no more casino empire, no more television stronghold. Not to say we wouldn't have the things that we are addicted, but maybe we could handle things more responsibly.
---
The only thing preventing utopia is addiction - unknown

Re:From someone who cares... (2, Insightful)

somersault (912633) | more than 4 years ago | (#28073717)

Sounds more like you are trying to ban enjoyment than addiction. People could become addicted to any rewarding behaviour. It is primarily up to the individual to not take that behaviour too far, you can't keep blaming the government or other external factors for everything. They can play a part but if they really did step in you'd realise you didn't want them to after all. Imagine all alcoholics were forcibly restrained from drinking rather than being given a chance to get their shit together themselves. The minute they are no longer being monitored/restrained they will be right back at it, unless they have made their own decision to stop.

I have had periods of my life where I played a lot of computer games - very likely at a level that could be classified as addiction (used to stay up til 6am every night playing Counter-Strike, and later on it was MUDing). Guess what, I am still happy that I played those games, the reason I did it was because I was getting enjoyment out of it. Yes it did detract from other aspects of life at times, but I'd prefer to make my own choices than be forced to stop or limit activities I do in my own free time.

Re:Online gambling (1)

bcmm (768152) | more than 4 years ago | (#28073005)

Gambling is the traditional and, to some extent, still the normal meaning of "gaming" for people who don't play video games.

Re:Online gambling (1)

LordNimon (85072) | more than 4 years ago | (#28073987)

I think you meant to say: Gambling is the traditional and, to some extent, still the normal meaning of "gaming" for people who don't play any games.

so let me get this right... (5, Insightful)

DragonTHC (208439) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071479)

a dad banned his kid from playing games and the kid killed himself.

then...

the thai government says this is bad, we need to stop those gaming sites.

then...

the thai government effectively bans everyone from gaming?

and no one else is supposed to kill themselves?

Re:so let me get this right... (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28071683)

Maybe the kids can get work as prostitutes.

Re:so let me get this right... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28072113)

Wait... your right! No one else killed themselves... Hmm. Maybe they don't need to shut do--NO IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN YOU BASTARD.

Re:so let me get this right... (1)

modecx (130548) | more than 4 years ago | (#28072455)

Thailand has an interesting culture/leadership (and by interesting, I mean crazy).

Let's ban youtube because some random put a video there, in which the king had shoes on his head. Let's also ban gaming sites because some twerp jumped off a roof. But, let's ignore if not support at a federal level, the real problems (child prostitution, human trafficking might be a good place to start)

Sure, I realize the current government is a quasi-military clusterfuck, but really--it seems any kind of energy on their part could be better spent.

Re:so let me get this right... (1, Troll)

Hubbell (850646) | more than 4 years ago | (#28073409)

If you ban child prostitution in thailand the entire tourist industry would collapse, are you insane? It's every man's dream to sleep with a 12 year old ladyboy!

Re:so let me get this right... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28074367)

If you ban child prostitution in thailand the entire tourist industry would collapse, are you insane? It's every man's dream to sleep with a 12 year old ladyboy!

QFFBI

Re:so let me get this right... (1)

Drakkenmensch (1255800) | more than 4 years ago | (#28073719)

the thai government effectively bans everyone from gaming? and no one else is supposed to kill themselves?

[sarcasm] Why not? That sure worked well when that kid killed himself after playing too much dungeons and dragons, and parents everywhere started forbidding their kids from playing it as well! D&D is dead now, and that kid is remembered as a hero for destroying an evil game... [/sarcasm]

Re:so let me get this right... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28073907)

[sarcasm]D&D is dead now, and that kid is remembered as an hero for destroying an evil game... [/sarcasm]

Fixed that for ya.

Re:so let me get this right... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28074315)

wrong

Huh? (2, Insightful)

justinlee37 (993373) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071481)

What do gambling sites have to do with the suicide of a 12-year-old?

Also, I find it funny that the response to a boy committing suicide when he was banned from playing games is to ban the entire country from playing games.

Re:Huh? (1)

Bigjeff5 (1143585) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071521)

I'm too lazy to RTFA, naturally, but it appears that in this case it's not "online gaming" as in WoW, it's "online gaming" as in Pokerstars.net or UltimateBet.com.

They are technically online games, but they are betting sites.

If I'm wrong, and Thai judjes' leap of logic was "Boy commits suicide over not being allowed to play WoW, therefore we should ban all gambling websites", then Thailand has got to be one fucked up place.

Re:Huh? (1)

Narcocide (102829) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071543)

It's a pretty weird place. I heard their police have to wear smiley-face masks to disguise their true feelings towards criminals.

Re:Huh? (5, Interesting)

digitalchinky (650880) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071615)

This might be explained or at least rationalised slightly better if you understand the differences between Asian culture and the one which, presumably, you come from (My assumption is the US, but I could be wrong)

Now, I don't make the rules here, so when I say it is sometimes seen as a 'very grave family insult' to commit suicide, you might think this is stupid, backward, and crazy arsed dumb 12 ways from Sunday. And you would be right too. Thai people tend not to want to directly confront any problem head on, they like to tackle things a little more obliquely, talk about it in vague hand waving first. "Yes" often actually means no, or just maybe.

Knee jerk reactions such as this do sort themselves out in parliament or the legal system. Give it a month or two to have the person responsible for this action will get slapped around, the law might not get stricken from record, but it wont really be enforced either. Aside from this, there are always deeper issues at play, people using tragedy as an excuse to push their agenda. None of us anywhere in the world are stranger to this though!

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28072733)

This particular story seems to be taking two events and trying to relate them to each other. It isn't really clear that they are related (beyond the suicide simply being an excuse to block more websites).

This is the original story [bangkokpost.com] on the boy's suicide. It mostly blames the parents (the father's a cop) for poor parenting skills. Essentially saying, "there were probably other family problems, the gaming ban was likely just 'the last straw'". It also suggests a "harm reduction" approach to handling gaming addiction.

One thing that I think a western audience will not appreciate is that gaming over here in Thailand is much more of a social activity than in the US or Europe. Most people don't own a computer, so the kids go to internet cafes to play games. They'll go after school with their friends and spend hours playing games together. So a ban on "gaming" is more like a ban on hanging out with your friends and gaming.

It isn't just online games, some internet cafes have TVs and PS2s rather than computers. Kids will go and play football games (soccer, in American) with their friends.

Final thing to note: gambling is illegal in Thailand. Banning access to online gambling sites is standard fare over here. Along with blocking access to pornography, blocking gambling sites is a pretty normal event. Adding "gaming" to the mix is unusual, and without more details it is hard to tell if they are really blocking gaming sites or if the reporter just thinks they are.

I seriously doubt they would block gaming sites since it would lead to all the same problems they had when they blocked YouTube. It just taught the internet cafe owners to set up their computers to use proxies to evade the filtering all together. Suddenly all the other filtered content was available as well, including the porn, gambling and political sites. That ended up with a new law banning the use of proxies, which is of course, impossible to enforce.

In Thailand you can only push people so far before there is "blowback". Just like when they tried to enforce the IP laws by raiding Patpong a couple weeks ago, there was a riot and dozens of people ended up in hospital [bangkokpost.com]. Shortly after, the politicians stepped in and put an end to the raids [bangkokpost.com].

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28071675)

it's a way of cleaning up the gene pool a bit.

Re:Huh? (1)

moon3 (1530265) | more than 4 years ago | (#28072417)

What do gambling sites have to do with the suicide of a 12-year-old

Government business as usual. At least they haven't invaded another country or two..

Is it just me? (5, Insightful)

viyh (620825) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071497)

That seems very non sequitur. The kid killed himself because of the actions of his father, not the actions of the websites. Sounds like he needed better parenting, let alone the fact that a child who commits suicide over something like that obviously had some other issues. Go Thailand!

Re:Is it just me? (1)

Jurily (900488) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071587)

Sounds like he needed better parenting, let alone the fact that a child who commits suicide over something like that obviously had some other issues.

I'm waiting to see the suicide rates after this move. If it's only a few more, there's obviously no reason for the ban. If people commit suicide by the hundreds, we have a definite proof Darwin was right.

At any rate, why don't we start making games fun instead of addictive?

Re:Is it just me? (1)

xant (99438) | more than 4 years ago | (#28072293)

> If people commit suicide by the hundreds, ... then we leave the ban in place a little longer. Pretty soon everyone who was going to kill themselves has done so. Problem solved, gaming turned back on for everyone else.

Re:Is it just me? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28071605)

People often assume that people become addicted to computer games, and then they neglect their life and it falls apart and the games are therefore to blame. This is backwards, imo. People only become addicted to games when they are already depressed or when their life seems so bad that they crave the escapism games can provide. Gaming attracts unhappy people, it doesn't *make* them unhappy.

Until people learn this lesson and start treating gaming addiction as the *symptom* of an underlying issue, rather than the problem itself, tragedies like this will continue to happen. This poor kids life seemed so bad to him that without the escapism offered by video games, he simply couldn't bear to face it. The games were quite literally keeping him alive, and because people didn't understand that and tried to "cure" him, he ended up dead. In this case, rather than acknowledge that mistake, they compound it by banning the very thing that was helping this kid. I imagine that if he had grown up without access to video games, he wouldn't have been any less troubled than he ultimately was, those trouble simply would have manifested in different ways.

That said, it's a bit odd that Thailand apparently lumps gambling and video games all into the same category even though there's really only occasional overlap.

Re:Is it just me? (2, Insightful)

JaredOfEuropa (526365) | more than 4 years ago | (#28073367)

This is how it works in many countries; there's this idea that whenever something bad happens, someone or something must be to blame. The kid in this case would be held blameless... he is the victim. The parents? They are as much a victim as the kid, who in their right mind would suggest that they might be bad parents? Especially since it's often the parents starting the crusade to assign blame. The school? Possibly... but when there are games involved, it is so much easier to blame those. After all, many games are violent. They are also mostly produced by big faceless corporations who make money and are thus both morally and financially attractive targets.

I'm not aware of claims made against game companies for death or damages supposedly "caused by games", but it's waiting to happen.

Why.... (3, Interesting)

Darkness404 (1287218) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071511)

I've never really understood why countries take so many steps to censor things. What exactly was the problem? Kid liked games, parents took away the games, kid committed suicide. So obviously the answer is to ban all game sites? This is about the worst logic I have ever heard, heck, even Jack Thompson makes more sense than this...

Re:Why.... (1)

pimpimpim (811140) | more than 4 years ago | (#28073017)

Why censor? Because control of information means more power over people. How this applies to video games is not directly clear to me either, but as the summary says there is a lot of money involved which probably does not go to state taxes.

Re:Why.... (1)

frank_carmody (1551463) | more than 4 years ago | (#28081723)

A lot of people are talking about (Aristotelian) logic here but it's missing the point completely. Two things: I've lived a number of years in Thailand & Cambodia. I love (Aristotelian) logic as I believe it is beautiful and underpins the very basic facts of our universe. The three laws of thought are: i) A is A; ii) It is not the case that 'P' and 'not-P'; iii) It is the case that either 'P' or 'not-P'. These seems impossible to deny. In fact, they're a sound test for irrationality. Now, you won't find this logic in Thailand. This statement is not meant to offend. It's just the truth. It can be infuriating at first if you were brought up with Western logic drilled into you. But you'll soon learn to accept the Thai way or else you'll be forced to leave under threat of going insane. My point here is that to say this is a non sequitur, etc. just doesn't really apply to the cognitive situation in Thailand.

Not Clearly Related (4, Insightful)

Fieryphoenix (1161565) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071525)

The article and summary heavily imply that the suicide caused the ban, but I read nothing to indicate that these are simply two events that happened in Thailand, one after the other. Indeed, the thrust appears to be against gambling, with additionally mentioned a call for psychological counseling for the bereaved.

Re:Not Clearly Related (1)

mysidia (191772) | more than 4 years ago | (#28073429)

You're right... there would appear to indeed be very little indication the events were related.

Think the reporter may have fallen ill to a Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy here.

(Or just failed to include the quote or specific information linking the two events)

Re:Not Clearly Related (1)

LingNoi (1066278) | more than 4 years ago | (#28079455)

In Thailand a few years back a father beat his son to death with a metal pipe because of his video game addiction.

I wouldn't be so quick to blame the websites...

Wolfram Alpha is good for something... (4, Interesting)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071595)

100 million Thai baht = 2.9121 million U.S. dollars, annualized == $1.058 billion (granted that's a peak period, so it's probably half that)

Thailand's Population == 63.9 million

Thailand's GDP / Thailand's population == $3718

Thailand's game website expenditure (peak night) / population == about $22 or 215% of annualised GDP per capita!

Re:Wolfram Alpha is good for something... (-1, Offtopic)

Mad Merlin (837387) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071631)

100 million Thai baht = 2.9121 million U.S. dollars, annualized == $1.058 billion (granted that's a peak period, so it's probably half that)

Google's done this for ages. [google.com]

Re:Wolfram Alpha is good for something... (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071751)

I was joking about the whole wolfram alpha thing...

Re:Wolfram Alpha is good for something... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28071825)

google dont do this
http://www65.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Thailand%27s+GDP+%2F+Thailand%27s+population

I have another hypothesis -- did he jump???? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28071609)

Nobody has investigated the possibility that this was not suicide, that an Italian or a gang of Italians PUSHED him! It is shocking that no one has come up with this yet, probably cowed into silence by the Italian lobby.

Re:I have another hypothesis -- did he jump???? (1)

mysidia (191772) | more than 4 years ago | (#28073433)

hm.. I suppose it could be a school bully, and since he failed to login to the game to pay his "protection gold," he got targetted.

Don't worry ... (2, Funny)

DeadDecoy (877617) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071621)

The kids probably buddhist. He'll just respawn later in the red light district. Of course he'll have to re-level his character to make up for lost XP.

Could happen here. (4, Insightful)

MindlessAutomata (1282944) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071637)

Mod me down as a troll if you really want, but I feel like the intellectual zeitgeist in in Western countries is moving in a direction where this could very well happen.

Individualism, "personal responsibly" (often a bad buzzword, but whatever), individual rights, etc, are becoming more and more vilified in favor of "social responsibility" and "community values." Think I'm paranoid? You haven't been to a college campus recently. This applies to both the "left" and the "right" of course, but the "right" in American terms is losing ground particularly among youth so I'll just focus on left-wing politics.

It may yet still be over the horizon, but the notion of protecting people over the greater good is not new and I feel that the overall premise is whittling away at free speech. After all, if people can use rhetoric against hate crimes as having no "social value" or against guns in a similar fashion, what's the stop someone from also applying the same principles to speech and entertainment? They can just ask the same question, "what's the social value of video games?" and really your only answer is that "Well, I and others enjoy them" in which case you're a heartless selfish bastard that won't think of the poor kids. A misleading argument, since "social value" is always their OWN subjective determination of what's good and what's not, of course...

Re:Could happen here. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28072433)

Mod me down as a troll if you really want...

I'm out of mod points you insensitive clod!

Re:Could happen here. (1)

pimpimpim (811140) | more than 4 years ago | (#28073035)

Indeed, as of April 22 2009, the german government has accepted a law censoring child porn on the internet. Nobody can object that child porn is bad, but in practice this law will end up blocking random urls (that can be instantly renamed anyway), and creating the means to block any information, be it on purpose or 'accidentally'.

Re: It's already happening here (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28073539)

Another example, the German government's efforts to ban Paintball and Laser-Tag, on grounds that these games "offend common decency".

The only way to prevent these tragedies... (5, Funny)

kylerowens (1555499) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071639)

is to ban all buildings over 5 stories.

Re:The only way to prevent these tragedies... (3, Insightful)

ctmurray (1475885) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071761)

I read many years ago in a chemical trade magazine (and no I can't seem to find an internet link)that the LD 50 height for falling is 11 feet. Meaning that when people fall unexpectedly (vs jumping) from a height of 11 feet, 50 percent of them die. So you would need to ban tall single story buildings. I will keep trying to find a link but apparently there is a band called LD 50 and they keep clogging the google results. BTW - after reading this I never go up on ladders higher than the top of my house windows. I pay someone else to risk their life.

Re:The only way to prevent these tragedies... (1)

Cernst77 (816740) | more than 4 years ago | (#28072375)

I must be lucky then, very lucky. I fell backwards off a 3 story apt. balcony hit the grass and only broke 3 bones and almost dislocated a shoulder. 2 of those bones were cervical vertebra unfortunately. But after a halo brace my neck still functions fine, even if it bothers me from time to time.

To Spoiled Rotten Children: It's only a game! (3, Insightful)

Bushido Hacks (788211) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071701)

Nothing at all like the Lori Drew Incident that confirms that MySpace is more Train Wreck than Social Network, a spoiled little brat has to ruin it for everybody else because he doesn't want to be disciplined. Another thing to consider is if his dad was some high ranking bureaucrat trying to "save the children from the evils of sex and violence".

The court hasn't though about the children and the adults who know it is just a game.

So your dad grounded you from video games. SUCK IT UP! Do your punishment and get it over with. Unless your dad caught you going to some illegal gambling website (which I doubt any 12 y.o. would be doing) or going to one of the nefarious websites that have numbers that are unnecessary and strange suffixes, there is no reason for bratty behavior.

So you are banned from World of Warcraft for a week. Is killing yourself in real life going to resolve anything?

Thailand may think they may have people's best interest at heart but it is foolish to make a federal case out of an incident where parents must be accounable for their children's actions, not the government. Unless the kid steals a PS3 from a shop, mom and dad need to increase their discipline.

Remember, If you love you're children BEAT THEM! [thebestpag...iverse.net]

Re:To Spoiled Rotten Children: It's only a game! (1)

tecnico.hitos (1490201) | more than 4 years ago | (#28072195)

Remember, If you love you're children BEAT THEM! [thebestpag...iverse.net]

You beat them so they won't jump off the roof? I'm not sure that's going to help in this case.

Beatings result in fear and/or anger, that's all. There is no "lesson learned". You might as well say an abusive husband is "teaching" his wife (and they say it, AFAIK).

Someone that lives in fear will fear life. Anger too, doesn't make a healthy mind. The kid might hold a grudge against his parents. It doesn't matter whether the kid will do something against them (and probably won't), but chances are the kid will not trust their parents either.

If a beating is the only thing that will fix the kid, it means the parent have been doing(or, more accurately have been letting the kid do) something wrong.

If a beating is the only thing that will fix the kid, it means the parent have been doing(or, more accurately have been letting the kid do something wrong) something wrong.

Anyway, if people (it doesn't matter the age) intend to kill themselves, I doubt telling them to "suck it up" will solve anything. They are way past the level of having only immature behavior.

Re:To Spoiled Rotten Children: It's only a game! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28072879)

Beatings result in fear and/or anger, that's all. There is no "lesson learned".

They associate undesirable behavior with pain. Most kids try to avoid pain, hence they'll learn to avoid whatever it is that lead you to discipline them.

You might as well say an abusive husband is "teaching" his wife (and they say it, AFAIK).

And sometimes he is. Just because she's an adult doesn't mean she's incapable of making mistakes.

Re:To Spoiled Rotten Children: It's only a game! (1)

ProducedRaw (1252020) | more than 4 years ago | (#28077065)

They associate undesirable behavior with pain. Most kids try to avoid pain, hence they'll learn to avoid whatever it is that lead you to discipline them.

They associate pain with their parents. This is bad because ones' relationship with their parents tends to be a template for their relationships with other people of the respective genders.

And sometimes he is. Just because she's an adult doesn't mean she's incapable of making mistakes.

Does that mean that since I percieve you to be making a mistake in the way you see education, it's OK for me to beat you? Adults make mistakes, after all.

discipline !abuse (1)

catbertscousin (770186) | more than 4 years ago | (#28083749)

There is a massive difference between beatings given in anger and simple physical discipline. My siblings and I got our fair share of spankings back when we were children, not because our parents were angry with us, but because they wanted to teach us not to do stuff like running out in the street as toddlers or playing with Dad's power tools in the garage.

Our parents were pretty good about keeping the dangerous stuff locked up, on high shelves, out of the way of little hands, but the world is full of potentially dangerous things and kids get very creative when it comes to injuring themselves. They don't yet have the understanding necessary to think things through to probably conclusions before they do them and have a great belief in their invincibility. Consequently, kids do some dumb, dangerous stuff. I know we sure did.

At the time, we learned "If I do this, I'll get a spanking" so we didn't do it because we didn't want to get spanked. Nobody waled on us with a belt or a 2x4, I don't ever remember getting a bruise, but it stung enough to make me want to avoid it. When we got older, we started realizing "If I'd gotten hit by a car while playing in the street, I'd probably be dead." D'oh! Our parents never punished us in anger, and while we might be mad at the time (I was just fine building a miniature gasoline-powered grill in my room to toast marshmallows! I knew what I was doing!) we knew our parents didn't want us to do things that would hurt us.

Ordinary, healthy discipline, whether physical (spanking, grounding) or limiting (no TV for a week, no dessert) should never be associated with abuse, which is given in anger and intended to hurt/humiliate the victim only to please the abuser.

TFA combines two unrelated stories (5, Informative)

Dahan (130247) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071927)

The Bangkok Post article is combining two unrelated stories, and gets the chronology of the two events backwards. The kid's suicide [komchadluek.net] has nothing to do with the DSI shutting down gambling websites [mcot.net] (both articles in Thai, unfortunately... this may be an English article about the suicide [nationmultimedia.com], but it's currently giving me a MySQL error). Also, the Bangkok Post says the court order to shut down the sites is dated May 19, and that "the court order follows the death of a 12-year-old boy". However, the boy killed himself on May 21.

Re:TFA combines two unrelated stories (0)

Dahan (130247) | more than 4 years ago | (#28071979)

BTW, here's the press release [dsi.go.th] from the DSI about the gambling website shutdown, which confirms the May 19 court order date. I tried Google Translate on it, but it did a pretty bad job. It translated the headline as "I found a good gaming site 72.", which made me LOL though :) (the correct translation is "DSI finds 72 gambling websites")

Just what do you think you are doing? (2, Interesting)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 4 years ago | (#28072773)

You are using fact and reason to point out the sky isn't falling down. Do you know the harm this is doing to slashdot's advertising revenue? They NEED stories like this and wild random speculation on it to draw visitors. You sir are stealing the food out of the mouth of poor slashdot editors who hardly could get any other job with their skills. I hope you are proud of yourself.

Thailand is just off-the-rails. (0)

therufus (677843) | more than 4 years ago | (#28072049)

Law and order in Thailand is a crazy topic. It seems the people responsible for law in the country have some kind of mental disorder. Just last week, an Australian woman faced 5 years in prison for stealing a bar mat [news.com.au]. I mean, WTF? Here in Australia we've heard over and over again about Shapelle Corby, who was sentenced for 20 years for carrying less than 10lbs of marijuana [wikipedia.org] into the country. I'm not saying she didn't commit a crime, but does the punishment fit what she did?

I'm beginning to think Thailand is becoming "North Korea v2.0" with crazy officials trying to enforce ridiculous policy.

Re:Thailand is just off-the-rails. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28072335)

About the Australian woman, your info is wrong. She was sentenced to two years by the judge and reduced to 1 year probation.

So, a thief goes to jail. How shocking (1)

SmallFurryCreature (593017) | more than 4 years ago | (#28072795)

You already been corrected on the drugs case, but what exactly is wrong with sentencing someone for a crime? There seems to be a lot missing from this story and the way it is written is the typical "we always write we want the goverment to be though on crime except when there is a sob story in it".

And considering that australia, the goverment this woman supports with her tax money, treats immigrants as prisoners, shouldn't you first look to your own legal system?

Re:So, a thief goes to jail. How shocking (1)

therufus (677843) | more than 4 years ago | (#28073411)

AC:

About the Australian woman, your info is wrong. She was sentenced to two years by the judge and reduced to 1 year probation.

You misread. I said she was FACING 5 years, which is what was reported here.

SmallFurryCreature:

You already been corrected on the drugs case, but what exactly is wrong with sentencing someone for a crime? There seems to be a lot missing from this story and the way it is written is the typical "we always write we want the goverment to be though on crime except when there is a sob story in it".

And considering that australia, the goverment this woman supports with her tax money, treats immigrants as prisoners, shouldn't you first look to your own legal system?

Illegal immigrants are different to immigrants. There are legal ways to enter this country under immigrant or refugee status. I'm not sure what country you're from, but how would you like thousands of people from other countries entering your nation every year taking your jobs, leeching off your governments welfare scheme and bringing disease in as they don't pass through customs? I'm not advocating locking refugees in detention centres, far from it. But there are better ways to enter Australia.

Re:So, a thief goes to jail. How shocking (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28074401)

Australia STILL treats their immigrants as prisoners? Damn, that's one old policy.

Re:Thailand is just off-the-rails. (1)

LingNoi (1066278) | more than 4 years ago | (#28079505)

The bar mat cost 60 USD and was a meter long thing made out of rubber. When stopped by the police she ran away. If it was in the US she'd be jailed too (and for longer then this women), or are you one of those assholes who believes rich foreigners should be allowed to break the law in Thailand?

It's a stupid example anyway because she only spent 3 days in jail and was fined 28 USD. So yes, the punishment does fit the crime.

Next time don't try to steal things and you won't be put in jail (imagine that!).

Gambling or drugs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28072217)

What's worse? What ruins more lives? Is it apples and oranges?

Re:Gambling or drugs? (1)

Psyborgue (699890) | more than 4 years ago | (#28073385)

False dichotomy. People use those things to cope with lives, hidden feelings, or situations that are already shit. Treating addiction as a disease is treating a symptom.

Is this the whole story? (1)

Drone69 (1517261) | more than 4 years ago | (#28072317)

It's tragic a child killed himself. But simply over a computer game? Perhaps the dad was abusive and there's more to this story than we know.

Rating Games (1)

insane_coder (1027926) | more than 4 years ago | (#28072823)

Oh no, if they prevent kids committing suicide because of game deprivation, how am I supposed to know which new games are good?

Meh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28072951)

One less dumb-ass in the world...

Gaming != gambling (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28073323)

It took a while for me to understand what this was about. Please stop calling gambling "gaming". This is a use of words started by the big gambling companies to make gambling seem less like gambling and more friendly. It brings down the reputation of the videogame industry and is just confusing.

Homonymbosity (1)

thethibs (882667) | more than 4 years ago | (#28075061)

I'm going to guess that in the Thai language "gambling" and "gaming" are the same word. It's the only reasonable explanation for the apparent confusion between computer games and gambling sites.

wouldn't this just excacerbate the problem? (1)

Khashishi (775369) | more than 4 years ago | (#28078855)

So, here's how I see it. As we can see, taking the game away from people can cause them to commit suicide.
Father bans game from kid.
Kid commits suicide.
State bans games from everybody.
Kids all over the country commit suicide.

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