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Bitterness To Be Classified As a Mental Illness

samzenpus posted more than 5 years ago | from the that-should-fix-everything dept.

Medicine 511

Some psychiatrists are trying to get excessive bitterness identified as a mental illness named post-traumatic embitterment disorder. Of course this has some people who live perfect little lives, and always get what they want, questioning the new classification. The so called "disorder" is modeled after post-traumatic stress disorder because it too is a response to a trauma that endures. "They feel the world has treated them unfairly. It's one step more complex than anger. They're angry plus helpless," says Dr. Michael Linden, the psychiatrist who put a name to how the world works.

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Makes sense (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28114583)

I'd be bitter too if I had four fingers and no torso.

Re:Makes sense (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28114649)

No, red potato men have smiles on their foreheads, you bigot.

Re:Makes sense (5, Funny)

internerdj (1319281) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114677)

How can you tell he is bitter? He is missing the proper digit to express it to the world?

Re:Makes sense (3, Insightful)

Jurily (900488) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114769)

So, what's next on the list of mental illnesses? Hope? Happiness? Not being a properly brainwashed consumer?

We already have boredom on there.

Re:Makes sense (5, Insightful)

Mystra_x64 (1108487) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114905)

Having a brain is a sure sign of possible mental illness in the future.

A new twist on Orwell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28114959)

So we'll have 'Thought Disease' instead of 'Thought Crime'? great...

Re:Makes sense (1)

Scragglykat (1185337) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114883)

How can you tell he is a he? He is missing the proper digit to express it to the world?

Re:Makes sense (1)

rubycodez (864176) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114907)

I thought it was all torso, pot belly with legs and an attitude. we have lots of middle aged farts at work like that.

A gun makes more sense. (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28114979)

There is no bitterness that cannot be cured with a fully loaded 38 special. For the gun-ignorant, a 38 special is a popular revolver that can be purchased (illegally) in most "bad" neighborhoods in San Francisco.

I own 2 -- one for home use and one for the road. That road sometimes leads to my workplace.

Cynicism (5, Insightful)

Broken scope (973885) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114593)

So when is Cynicism getting added to an ever expanding list of mental disorders that one more pill can set right?

Re:Cynicism (-1, Troll)

Jurily (900488) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114653)

So when is Cynicism getting added to an ever expanding list of mental disorders that one more pill can set right?

Name one on that list that's not there to make these "doctors" more money, and to make patients feel good about themselves because "it's not my fault I'm a moron, I have a disorder".

Re:Cynicism (2, Insightful)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114701)

The drug companies are the ones who get the money. The doctors only get free golf trips and paperweights with drug logos on them.

Re:Cynicism (5, Insightful)

Rycross (836649) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114713)

Bipolar? Schizophrenia? Obsessive-compulsive disorder? There are plenty of real mental illnesses. Depression (as in, real depression, not the normal blues) is a real mental disorder too. You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater here.

Re:Cynicism (-1, Flamebait)

Jurily (900488) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114811)

Bipolar?

You just named another imaginary one. Do bipolars have a positive and negative magnetic field?

Re:Cynicism (4, Informative)

Rycross (836649) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114837)

Bipolar disorder [wikipedia.org] is not imaginary.

Re:Cynicism (-1, Flamebait)

Jurily (900488) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114897)

Bipolar disorder, also known as manic depression, manic depressive disorder or bipolar affective disorder,

Anything you have four different equivalent scientific terms for is not real. Sorry.

Re:Cynicism (2, Insightful)

Rycross (836649) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114971)

I'm not sure how having different names for the same things means its not real. Otherwise I don't know how I manage to go to the bathroom/toilet/water closet/wash room every day. Care to make an intelligent argument?

P.S. That Wikipedia article cites scientific research/medical information.
P.P.S Insisting that it isn't real, without supporting your assertions, doesn't make it not real. Sorry.

Re:Cynicism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28114973)

I would have moderated the above post, but I didn't see a "Stupid" classification.

Re:Cynicism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28114977)

Oh, I get it now -- you're a Scientologist, railing against Evil Psychology!

Re:Cynicism (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28115091)

Anything you have four different equivalent scientific terms for is not real. Sorry.

dihydrogen monoxide, hydric acid, hydrogen hydroxide, oxidane

Re:Cynicism (1)

yerktoader (413167) | more than 5 years ago | (#28115103)

Either you can't brain today, or you're trolling. The terms are most certainly not equivalent, and the first sentence of TFW is reasonably clear about that and most certainly does not call them equivalent in any way shape or form. By the end of the first paragraph, it's abundantly clear that they are very much different, but in common parlance they are used interchangeably.

If you've misunderstood the article, then it's a different story - but I gather from your tone that you either recognize the facts and are simply flying in the face of science because of what you believe, or are simply trolling.

If it truly is the former, then I guess it's simply a mistake. In either of the two latter scenarios....

Re:Cynicism (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28114823)

Believe it or not, most doctors are motivated by curing or ameliorating the suffering they see so much of. The best psychiatrist I ever had, when I asked him why he chose Psychiatry as his specialty, explained that in surgery and internal medicine rotations most patients came in to the hospital with illnesses that weren't going to improve, really, despite medical intervention Late stage diabetes, cancer, heart disease, etc. In psychiatry rotations, he got to see patients that were feeling so horrible they honestly wished to die become better because of what he as a doctor could do for them, and that was a tremendously positive experience that he wanted to spend his professional life repeating for others.

Re:Cynicism (1, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114921)

What the hell? Do you even think about what you post?
All medical practice make Doctors money just lke Cars are here to keep mechanic busy.

Thing break down, mechanics fix them. People ahve medical issue, doctors help them.

Your ignorance on this matter is astounding and is only dwarfed by the size of the universe.

Take a logic 101 course.

Re:Cynicism (1, Informative)

Jurily (900488) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114993)

Thing break down, mechanics fix them. People ahve medical issue, doctors help them.

So feeling bad is now a medical issue? Then why are all drugs that make you feel really good, illegal?

Re:Cynicism (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28115065)

Easy there, don't get manic about it. Sounds like you need some PharmAmorin [theonion.com] .

As for your question, there's always Despondex [theonion.com] for those abnormal people who are too upbeat and happy to be suffering from a disorder.

For everyone else, there's always Zoloft for everything [theonion.com] or perhaps you need some Placebo [theonion.com] , now available in liquid form.

Re:Cynicism (1)

Phoenixhawk (1188721) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114679)

in communist Amerika, pill takes you

Re:Cynicism (5, Funny)

node 3 (115640) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114697)

So when is Cynicism getting added to an ever expanding list of mental disorders that one more pill can set right?

While they surely have a pill ready, all you need is an irony supplement.

Re:Cynicism (3, Insightful)

gishzida (591028) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114985)

I'm not cynical... I'm optimistically challenged!

Pschyciatrists (-1, Troll)

Jurily (900488) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114601)

need to be shot.

What's this shit again? New diseases, new hourly rates?

Maybe we need some human beings as psychiatrists every now and then.

Re:Pschyciatrists (5, Funny)

node 3 (115640) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114745)

You sound bitter...

Re:Pschyciatrists (1)

Emb3rz (1210286) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114801)

Yes, mmhmm. How does that make you feel?

Re:Pschyciatrists (1)

DarrylM (170047) | more than 5 years ago | (#28115131)

What do you think about maybe we need some human beings as psychiatrists every now and then?

</drsbaitso>

Now that Obama is President... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28114603)

...and Bush isn't, so now it's conservatives who are bitter rather than liberals.

How convenient....

American Liberals (-1, Troll)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114605)

Hah, libs are all nuts. I love it! I have yet to meet a liberal who was happy or content with their lives.

Re:American Liberals (1, Troll)

jayme0227 (1558821) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114803)

Well, technically you still haven't met me, but.. I'm a liberal who is generally happy content with my life. I would say I have never met a conservative who isn't a racist bastard, but that stereotype doesn't quite cover all of you. That said, why has this become a liberal vs. conservative or Bush vs Obama issue? This is an idiot psychiatrist vs. common sense issue. The human existence has long been one of suffering, ergo many people are bitter. That's the way it works. Don't even get me started at the overdiagnosis of ADHD or the confusion between sadness and depression.

New definitions... (1, Interesting)

WinPimp2K (301497) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114835)

Liberals who are not happy or content with their lives etc. are not bitter. You need to keep up with the times.

Bitter people are the ones who cling to their guns and religion - and if these folks are by definition mentally ill, then they can easily (in the legal sense) have their guns removed - for their own protection of course.

This "medical" definition of bitterness only applies if the religion being clung to is a Christian cult. If a person clings to a "religion" because their "holy man" promises them 72 virgins in paradise for bashing in a child's head with a rifle butt, or blowing themselves up in a crowded marketplace - well that person is not bitter or otherwise mentally ill.

Re:American Liberals (5, Insightful)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114943)

I have yet to meet a liberal who was happy or content with their lives.

That's because, in general, liberals realize that there are tons of real problems out there that should be solved.

Ignorance is Bliss, it's been said, and I find the corollary, "Understanding is Unhappiness", to be the cause of typical liberal cynicism.

I'd also note that all the happy conservatives I've met are those who are deliberately ignorant, or just plain without conscience.

where's my weewee? (2, Interesting)

IlluminatedOne (621945) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114623)

It also appears to have no avenue of sexual expression. That too, can be embittering.... All kidding aside, wtf??? I better not be paying into some disability fund for all the cantankerous bastards I know out there...

Pfft (-1, Offtopic)

wandazulu (265281) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114635)

Yeah, whatever.

Re:Pfft (3, Informative)

$RANDOMLUSER (804576) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114711)

So all developers are ipso facto mentally ill? It would explain quite a lot.

I resemble that remark (5, Interesting)

Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114639)

I have Asperger's. Diagnosed, not self-diagnosed like so many on slashdot.

Bitterness as a symptom of my Asperger's. This would explain a lot of the "delusions of inadequacy" side of my personality. I work so hard at some stuff that I'm just incapable of, like having a real career where I'm not exploited.

A lot of my paranoia is related to this as well.

I'm so lucky to be in a company now that respects my talents, and allows me time to deal with my mental illnesses; but not everybody is that lucky.

Re:I resemble that remark (-1, Troll)

Jurily (900488) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114685)

This would explain

There we have it, boys and girls. "I didn't fuck up my life, the doctor told me so."

Re:I resemble that remark (2, Insightful)

Rycross (836649) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114791)

That seems rather presumptuous of you. Do you know Marxist Hacker? Because you're making a big assumption about him without pretty much any evidence.

You do realize that a disorder being over-diagnosed doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't exist, right?

Re:I resemble that remark (-1, Troll)

Jurily (900488) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114867)

You do realize that a disorder being over-diagnosed doesn't necessarily mean that it doesn't exist, right?

You should only diagnose disorders you can treat without drugging them. The rest is just life.

Meanwhile, marijuana is illegal because it makes you smile.

Re:I resemble that remark (4, Insightful)

Rycross (836649) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114925)

You should only diagnose disorders you can treat without drugging them. The rest is just life.

That's assuming that there are no mental disorders that require chemical treatment. That point of view isn't supported by the medical evidence out there. Someone with schizophrenia isn't going to get better by just dealing with it, and any serious doctor would laugh at the idea that its "just life."

Meanwhile, marijuana is illegal because it makes you smile.

So smoking a blunt to feel happy is OK, but taking a pill to help you through a rough patch is a sign of weakness or a shirking of personal responsibility? Give me a break.

Re:I resemble that remark (1)

the_humeister (922869) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114965)

Uh huh. So, as per your definition, depression, bipolar disorder, shcizophrenia, etc. are not real disorders. If I had any mod points left, I'd have modded you down.

Re:I resemble that remark (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28115135)

That is not the correct usage of mod points...

Re:I resemble that remark (1)

gringofrijolero (1489395) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114969)

I doubt he does, and neither do the ones who modded him insightful. We know so little about ourselves and how our surroundings effect us. This is why the holy books tell us to judge not.

Re:I resemble that remark (1)

Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114895)

And the frustration level from that is immense- especially when by law and physical proximity, most of the people who will do economic harm to your life you will never meet, let alone have a chance to take a shot at.

Re:I resemble that remark (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#28115033)

Someone has a medical issue, they go to the doctor for it and somehow who you think that's not taing responsibility?

Really? are you that stupid?

Mental disorders do exist.

Re:I resemble that remark (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28114751)

> Diagnosed, not self-diagnosed like so many on slashdot.

This is reassuring to know. I understand that Aspergers is real but have yet to meet _anyone_ who's been diagnosed by anybody other than Dr. Google. I find it frustrating, because it detracts for the _real_ illness.

I know one guy in Seattle who was self-diagnosed and unable to work as a result. His parents paid his rent, paid for his Volkswagen camper van and bought him a (then) fancy digital SLR.

Man, I'd BEG for that disease. No diagnosis required, and the BENEFITS.

It sounds like you've got a good thing going and, frankly, like somebody I'd be proud to work with.

Not that that means squat to your life, but I enjoyed reading your post. It reassured me of the world's goodness, and that not everybody needs a self-diagnosed mental illness as a crutch for times when life gets hard. (Recognizing that there are doctors who fail to diagnose valid mental illnesses as well due to their own faults.)

Re:I resemble that remark (4, Interesting)

Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114861)

I've got a good thing going NOW- but it took failing at being a civil servant to get here.

I've got some niggling little physical symptoms for my Asperger's as well- stimming to the point of rubbing holes in my skin and bleeding (sometimes without noticing); migraines (sun, violins, and vinegar salad dressing are three big triggers); disgraphia (ha, there's a reason to go into software engineering, where one can type rather than write!); spd (sensory perception disorder- aka halucinations).

I don't understand how anybody with Asperger's would be totally unable to work. Unable to keep a job more than three years in a row due to driving everybody else nuts, yes, but not totally unable to work.

explotation and all that (-1, Flamebait)

speedtux (1307149) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114817)

This would explain a lot of the "delusions of inadequacy" side of my personality. I work so hard at some stuff that I'm just incapable of, like having a real career where I'm not exploited.

Look around you in the world; do you seriously think everybody but you lives perfect, happy, well-adjusted lives? Paris Hilton? Cher? Donald Trump? Ted Haggard? Bill Gates? President Obama?

Everybody has problems. Everybody gets exploited by someone sometimes. Everybody has hangups and issues. Everybody has disappointments, in people, in things, and in themselves. Everybody is paranoid about something sometimes. It's part of the human condition. Get used to it and deal with it positively.

Re:I resemble that remark (0, Flamebait)

cthulu_mt (1124113) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114901)

I'm so lucky to be in a company now that respects my talents, and allows me time to deal with my mental illnesses; but not everybody is that lucky.

I imagine they could save a bunch of money by hiring someone with a spine.

Bitterness is a mental illness (5, Funny)

Daimanta (1140543) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114643)

I have fought for the classification of bitterness into the mental illnesses several decades ago but people laughed at me. Still bitter about it.

Re:Bitterness is a mental illness (1)

Jurily (900488) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114715)

I have fought for the classification of bitterness into the mental illnesses several decades ago but people laughed at me. Still bitter about it.

You may still have a chance. Proposing this is obviously a sign of mental illness.

Re:Bitterness is a mental illness (5, Funny)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114845)

They all laughed at me when I said I wanted to become a comedian... but nobody is laughing now!

Solution to the problem (1, Flamebait)

Nickodeemus (1067376) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114659)

Grow up. Life is harsh and you need to grow up and understand that things aren't always going to go your way. Learn to deal with it like an adult and move on.

Re:Solution to the problem (1)

Millennium (2451) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114709)

Exactly. I understand that classifying states of mind such as these can be useful, but this is not an illness by any sane stretch of the imagination. Not every state other than blissful, meditative obedience is an illness; many, in fact, are quite healthy reactions to the normal disappointments and unpleasantnesses that creep into our lives from time to time.

Re:Solution to the problem (2, Insightful)

dcollins117 (1267462) | more than 5 years ago | (#28115169)

Everyone has experienced depression and anxiety at some point in their lives, but not everyone has a clinical depressive or anxiety disorder. I've certainly experienced trauma and bitterness in my life, but don't have PTSD as a result of it. Some people do. If it means they can now get help as a result of this classification (meaning it is more likely to be covered by their medical insurance), well, it's no skin off your back, is it?

Re:Solution to the problem (1)

Duradin (1261418) | more than 5 years ago | (#28115171)

http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=864 [damninteresting.com]

Being in a blissful, meditative obedient state is a mental illness.

Re:Solution to the problem (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28114777)

sounds to me as if you're advocating passivity.

Re:Solution to the problem (3, Insightful)

palegray.net (1195047) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114833)

Sounds better than chemically-induced passivity, which is what these doctors seem to be advocating.

Re:Solution to the problem (1)

Nickodeemus (1067376) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114841)

I can see how it could be interpreted that way but this:

"deal with it like an adult"

is more about doing the appropriate thing for the situation than it is about walking away from whatever the issue[s] are.

Re:Solution to the problem (1)

Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114881)

A real adult takes out his frustration with a bottle of whiskey and a rifle.

I guess at... (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28114665)

... least 99.999% of slashdot must be bitter because they are without girlfriends.

Hmm, on that note.. (0, Flamebait)

rotide (1015173) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114667)

I play a few too many video games than I probably should, when will that be a diagnosable mental illness?

How about my girlfriend who likes TV and Facebook a bit more than the average person? I mean, that's gotta be a new mental illness. Probably easily treatable with a $300 bottle of pills from the big pharma's right?

Re:Hmm, on that note.. (0)

aereinha (1462049) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114761)

Eventually being anything other than 'normal' will be a disease. But what is normal? Shame

Re:Hmm, on that note.. (3, Funny)

nizo (81281) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114789)

...my girlfriend who likes TV and Facebook a bit more than the average person?

I dunno, have you met the average person? TV and Facebook are way better than those poor sods.

Re:Hmm, on that note.. (1)

speedtux (1307149) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114839)

Probably easily treatable with a $300 bottle of pills from the big pharma's right?

That's the US solution. The European solution is six weeks in a health spa, courtesy of public health insurance. I suspect that the European solution works better and costs less in the long run...

Re:Hmm, on that note.. (2, Insightful)

morgan_greywolf (835522) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114887)

I play a few too many video games than I probably should, when will that be a diagnosable mental illness?

It already is [wikipedia.org] .

How about my girlfriend who likes TV and Facebook a bit more than the average person?

Yep [wikipedia.org] . And yep [wikipedia.org] .

Probably easily treatable with a $300 bottle of pills from the big pharma's right?.

Actually, the answer is no. Addiction disorders are treated primarily with therapy and 12-step programs. There are often other, related and usually contributing disorders, such as depression and anxiety, that are treated with pills from big pharma. But they're not necessarily $300 a bottle.

(Full disclosure: my wife is a psychologist and addictions counselor)

Obsessive Classificatory Disease? (4, Insightful)

cptnapalm (120276) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114689)

These people who seem to need to classify every single possible emotional state as an illness have some serious mental issues.

Post-stupidity annoyd disorder? (1)

KreAture (105311) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114819)

Basically, I am sure I have it because I am so annoyed all the time at all these doctors and their oddball patients.

It has gotten to the point where I am seeing most of the world as annoying.
- I am not bitter about it though.

Humor in the summary? (4, Insightful)

nine-times (778537) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114721)

I'm wondering about this:

Of course this has some people who live perfect little lives, and always get what they want, questioning the new classification. The so called "disorder"...

Is this supposed to be funny, or is the submitter suffering from some embitterment himself?

I know some people love having their personality labelled as a "disorder" because they believe it then excuses their actions. But also having a label like this can help people cope. Having a label can help you wrap your head around your own thoughts and behaviors, make you feel like you're not uniquely screwed up and alone, and figure out what steps might help you improve.

Re:Humor in the summary? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28114949)

Good job finding the humor, smarty.

Re:Humor in the summary? (1)

the_humeister (922869) | more than 5 years ago | (#28115039)

I'm wondering about this:

Is this supposed to be funny, or is the submitter suffering from some embitterment himself?

I know some people love having their personality labelled as a "disorder" because they believe it then excuses their actions.

You know, that's a philosophical question that's been plaguing us for eons. When we get down to it, physics determines all of our actions. Our decisions and actions are all a result of physical phenomena.

bah (5, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114723)


"They feel the world has treated them unfairly.

I don't think the world has treated me unfairly, I just happen to share it with 6 billion fucking cunts I can't stand.
What's wrong with that?

.

6 billion... (1)

WinPimp2K (301497) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114975)

and not a one to give you any nookie?
yup that would tend to make one bitter.

Of course, your problem might also be related to poor eyesight. According to a statistic I saw somewhere on the internet, approximately half of the world's population would be dicks. With a small enough sample size you could have just hit a string of mis-identifications. Remember, in real life, the RNG does not have a "streak compensator" built in.

There's a recession going on, people. (4, Funny)

taustin (171655) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114743)

And psychiatrists have boat payments to make, dammit!

At the rate things are going, this will soon become so serious that it can only be treated with a brand new, expensive drug just invented. It's a derivative of the drug they use for Restless Leg Syndrome, only it costs a lot more.

FUCK YOU (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28114755)

um, fuck you.

Post Traumatic WTF (-1, Troll)

zoomshorts (137587) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114773)

Great numbers of people came through world war I and II and Korea
There is NO such imaginary ailment. The modern PYCHOBABBLE mindset
seems to resonate amoung fucking idiots who do not want to take
responsibility for their actions, and grasp the pseudo-science of
Psychology to bolster their inability to be real people.

These people fail to adapt. They should DIE. Failing that, leave me and
the others like me , free from supporting these pussies for the rest of
their lives.

Maybe I will suffer some post 'traumatic' distress that makes me track
these assholes down and put them out of MY misery. They better hope they
are not taken seriously, or I will take myself seriously.

Re:Post Traumatic WTF (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28114885)

A little bitter, eh?

I wonder... (1)

yerktoader (413167) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114785)

So I guess this means that emo isn't whiny, post-pseudointellectual narcissism? Man, Fall Out Boy is going to have a field day with this...

This confirms it (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114795)

All ex-wives and ex-husbands really are mentally ill!

It's a trick! (2)

gringofrijolero (1489395) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114813)

It just makes it easier, and more convenient to have people locked up in the rubber room. Hate the IRS? You're just bitter. We have "treatment" for that now. A little "reeducation" oughta fix you right up. Gettin' close to that Twilight Zone where everybody had to think happy thoughts, or the kid would turn you into a jack-in-the-box.

I submit (2, Funny)

ArsonSmith (13997) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114815)

I submit "Compulsive Classification" as a mental disorder, but everybody thinks I'm paranoid. I have proof.

This really has to do with what a disorder is (1)

orkybash (1013349) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114869)

As I understand it (though I'm not a psychologist) a mental disorder is classified as such when it detrimentally affects the life of the person who suffers from it. So not all people who seem to be bitter a lot would necessarily have this, but if it causes them to start losing or cutting off friends, or impacts their decision making in a negative way, it would be classified as a disorder.

So it's no surprise that excessive bitterness can be a disorder. So can excessive happiness - ever heard of manics?

The good news is that it is easy to cure (1)

xednieht (1117791) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114873)

Instead of prescribing pills, doctors will prescribe bullets... bitterness all gone ;)

A quick patent search doesn't show anything but... (1)

number6x (626555) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114913)

Who would like to bet that some big pharmaceutical company has a patented medication just for 'Bitterness'.

Of course they can't get the health insurance companies to pay for expensive prescriptions unless it is a mental disorder. Otherwise taking the medication would be an 'elective' treatment, not a medical requirement.

Yeah she nailed it (1)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114923)

"They feel the world has treated them unfairly. It's one step more complex than anger. They're angry plus helpless," says Dr. Michael Linden, the psychiatrist who put a name to how the world works.

Yep. I'm angry because I'm now classified as mentally ill, and I'm apparently helpless to prevent this expansion of mental illness diagnoses.

Ha ha, just kidding about the "now" part.

Be Well to you! (5, Funny)

erroneus (253617) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114935)

I would just like to convey my sympathies to all those who have become embittered due to the traumatic stress of a world fraught with unfair competition, divisiveness, and discrimination. If you were born ugly and attractive people have more opportunities in life, that is no reason to be bitter. If you have been informed that you are somehow not good enough but not explained in what way, that is no reason to be bitter. If you are black in a predominantly white-controlled area and can't seem to get a fair chance in life, that is no reason to be bitter. If you are white and in a predominantly black-controlled area and can't seem to get a fair chance in life, that is no reason to be bitter.

There are many acceptable ways to respond to adversity in life so long as it is not angry or bitter in any way. If you happen to respond to such circumstances with anger and bitterness, fear not! We will not hold it against you, nor will we hold you responsible for it. We have declared that this is a mental illness and soon there will be treatments available for it. While the treatments will not elevate your social status in any way, you will be more accepting of "your place in life" so that your inner spirit will be more peaceful and docile. You will be better suited to serving those you had once resented for so long.

The key is "post-traumatic" (1)

Ohio Calvinist (895750) | more than 5 years ago | (#28114983)

I think the difference is that this disorder speaks to an individual who remains bitter after a particular "traumatic" (at least to them) incident they can't get over, where there is a known cause, that can be treated, versus a generally bitter disposition.

This is a case where the diagnosis could lead a psychiatrist to apply methods to help the person cope with the traumatic event versus treating bitterness as an inherent personality trait. If an event alters the baseline, rather than just having a high-bitter baseline, there is a lot more that can be done to the stimulus or event causing it. There are people with a non-bitter disposition that would return to a non-bitter disposition should they be able to overcome/work-through/whatever that particular incident.

Once it's a disorder (1)

MBCook (132727) | more than 5 years ago | (#28115003)

Remember folks: once it's a mental disorder, your therapist can charge your insurance to "fix" it to the tune of 1-2 hours per week, every week.

If it's a personality flaw, people have to pay for the therapy themselves.

This kind of stuff (bitterness, generic meanness, "depression" to the tune of "I'm not enthralled with life every moment") is a mental illness because insurance has to pay.

All I have to say is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28115013)

Fuck that.

Also: "major affective disorder, pleasant type" (1)

gilgongo (57446) | more than 5 years ago | (#28115025)

In 1992, I saw this abstract in the Journal of Medical Ethics [bmj.com] , now on-line for your delectation.

"In a review of the relevant literature it is shown that happiness is statistically abnormal, consists of a discrete cluster of symptoms, is associated with a range of cognitive abnormalities"

Hoo yah.

weeee (1)

dimovich (1526925) | more than 5 years ago | (#28115061)

Another reason why they should just legalize it...

All the listeners to right wing broadcasters? (1)

Old97 (1341297) | more than 5 years ago | (#28115075)

It sounds like an attempt to diagnose these guys and what is left of the Republican party.

SCO (1)

Tablizer (95088) | more than 5 years ago | (#28115111)

So SCO indeed did make all slashdotters ill. Let's sue them!
     

Remember, being normal isn't normal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28115139)

Remember folks, you're not normal unless you have a mental disorder. If they haven't found your disorder yet, just give them time. Eventually they'll classify all feelings and emotions as disorders, and then we can be one big happy (but not too happy) dysfunctional family.

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