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How Comic Fans & Shops Are Stereotyped

CmdrTaco posted more than 5 years ago | from the i-represent-that-comment dept.

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brumgrunt writes "Why do TV shows, such as 30 Rock, The Simpsons, Heroes, and Everybody Loves Raymond, persist in so ferevently stereotyping comic book fans and stores? Den of Geek has pulled together eight examples, with video evidence to back them up ..." Minus one point for doubling up on Malcolm in the Middle. Plus 10 points for referencing Spaced, which I hope you all have seen.

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387 comments

Ehemm... (5, Funny)

bradgoodman (964302) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123667)

Wost... article... ever.

How About Typing Comics Fans as Sex Offenders? (5, Interesting)

Philip K Dickhead (906971) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123757)

U.S. Manga Obscenity Conviction Roils Comics World [wired.com]

In an obscenity first, a U.S. comic book collector has pleaded guilty to importing and possessing Japanese manga books depicting illustrations of child sex abuse and bestiality.

Christopher Handley, described by his lawyer as a "prolific collector" of manga, pleaded guilty last week to mailing obscene matter, and to "possession of obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children." Three other counts were dropped in a plea deal with prosecutors.

The 39-year-old office worker was charged under the 2003 Protect Act, which outlaws cartoons, drawings, sculptures or paintings depicting minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct, and which lack "serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value." Handley's guilty plea makes him the first to be convicted under that law for possessing cartoon art, without any evidence that he also collected or viewed genuine child pornography. He faces a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison.

Keep that cartoon coochie identifyably 18!

Re:How About Typing Comics Fans as Sex Offenders? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28123941)

It's a chance I'm willing to take for Bridget!!

Re:How About Typing Comics Fans as Sex Offenders? (5, Insightful)

Phroggy (441) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124063)

The frightening thing about this is, a court of law just got to decide that a comic book doesn't have serious literary or artistic value. The comic book in question is perfectly legal in other countries (it's available for sale in Japan). As far as we know, this guy has never molested children, doesn't have any desire to molest children, and finds the practice despicable. If he's a "prolific collector", one can assume that his primary reason for collecting manga is precisely the literary and artistic value that the court just ruled it doesn't have.

Because of this decision, a man who (as far as we know) isn't guilty of any other crime will now be branded a sex offender for life. In addition to sitting in jail until he reaches retirement age, when he gets out he'll have to find a place to live that isn't too close to a school, and he'll have to warn all his neighbors that it's not safe for him to be around their children.

Re:How About Typing Comics Fans as Sex Offenders? (-1, Flamebait)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124193)

Oh, so child exploitation masked under the term 'Manga' is ok?

Re:How About Typing Comics Fans as Sex Offenders? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28124293)

Oh, so child exploitation masked under the term 'Manga' is ok?

Probably not. But why debate that. There was no child(s) exploited in any step of the process from creation to consumption.

It's like asking "Is rape masked under the term 'Slashdot' ok?"
Of course not, but that isn't happening, so whats the point bringing it up?

Re:How About Typing Comics Fans as Sex Offenders? (5, Insightful)

10Ghz (453478) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124333)

Were any child exploited in creating the cartoon? No. So how exactly is it "exploitation"?

Re:How About Typing Comics Fans as Sex Offenders? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28124205)

I wouldn't really say that article stereotypes comic book readers as sex offenders more than the minimum that must happen when anyone breaks the law. If a business owner breaks tax reporting laws, then "a business owner has been charged with breaking the tax reporting law" isn't a stereotyping of business owners either. At least in my view. If anything it tries to go the other way (".. without any evidence that he also collected or viewed genuine child pornography").

Of course, whether the law that was broken makes sense or not is a different matter.

Re:Ehemm... (-1, Troll)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123779)

Why worst ever?

Did it hit uncomfortably close to home?

Is home your parent's basement? :-)

Re:Ehemm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28123947)

WHOOOOOOOOOOOSH.

(hint: google Jeff Albertson)

Re:Ehemm... (1, Redundant)

Amazing Quantum Man (458715) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123957)

*whoosh*

Re:Ehemm... (1)

DaffyDuck101 (247015) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124109)

Ahem...

<comic book store guy> Whoosh </comic book store guy>

Re:Ehemm... (0, Offtopic)

ZenDragon (1205104) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123911)

QFT

I know (1)

reidiq (1434945) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123671)

By having Den of Geek defend our geekness? Not sure if that helps or not.....

Sad but true (5, Insightful)

harryandthehenderson (1559721) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123673)

It may be a stereotype but if you walk into most comic book/anime stores and look around at the people in them, the vast majority will match up to the stereotype.

Re:Sad but true (4, Interesting)

Narpak (961733) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123765)

It may be a stereotype but if you walk into most comic book/anime stores and look around at the people in them, the vast majority will match up to the stereotype.

At my local comic book store (it also sells books; specfic, fantasy, horror etc, and board games) I rarely if ever see any of the TV stereotype nerds. Then again I live in Norway so I guess it might not apply here or something. The people I see down there when I go to shop are mostly "normal" people. Everything from teenagers to old people browsing books or comics; and yes there is a pretty even distribution of girls there to. That being said reading comics, specfic or etc, (or being a nerd for that matter) is pretty much a none issue here; i.e. read/do what you like to read/do the rest of the people don't give a fuck one way or the other.

Re:Sad but true (5, Funny)

emocomputerjock (1099941) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123921)

I'm going to voice my support of your hypothesis that you living in Norway would have something to do with the diminished amount of stereotypical American comic book nerds you see at your local store.

Re:Sad but true (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124121)

Isn't everyone in Norway "normal"?

Re:Sad but true (2, Insightful)

rhyder128k (1051042) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124221)

I don't want to be normal. I like being a geek.

Re:Sad but true (5, Funny)

emag (4640) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124385)

Yeah, for the ones that aren't, you need to go to Abnorway.

Re:Sad but true (1)

EatHam (597465) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124347)

I rarely if ever see any of the TV stereotype nerds. Then again I live in Norway

Your comic book store is filled with NORWEGIANS

Re:Sad but true (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28123989)

It may be a stereotype but if you walk into most comic book/anime stores and look around at the people in them, the vast majority will match up to the stereotype.

And if you go to the ghetto part of any major US city and look at the black people there, the vast majority will match up to the "thug nigger" stereotype. Still doesn't make it right. So what's the difference, you may ask? The black people have many political groups with lots of media clout who will very loudly scream RACISM at any opportunity. Whether it's a valid complaint is worked out later, after all the screaming is done. The comic fans and shops have no such political groups and thus are not seen as a "protected minority" even though bigotry is bigotry whether it's about color of skin, sexual preference, preferred forms of entertainment, whatever.

This is indeed how it works, which is why the concept of "politically correct" is met with such contempt, even if it's not open contempt. If it was about what you believed and not about who has the political clout then it wouldn't be so contemptible.

Re:Sad but true (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28124005)

It may be a stereotype but if you walk into most comic book/anime stores and look around at the people in them, the vast majority will match up to the stereotype.

Soooooo, why were YOU there?

Re:Sad but true (1)

harryandthehenderson (1559721) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124073)

Unabashedly buying comics and Japanese cartoons.

Re:Sad but true (1)

petes_PoV (912422) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124355)

Yup, the one near me looks like the one in Heroes

I've only seen it through it's window, which needs a good cleaning, as I can't think of any reasdon why I'd ever want to go inside - unless there was a large poster offering money to the 1000th person through the door, and the counter stood at 999. However, I digress. It did look like it was rows and rows of comics, with posters on the walls and a few spotty-faced children inside. So from that I wouldn't say it was a stereotype - I'd say it was an accurate depiction.

If you don't like the image they have, you're free to start one of your own in whatever style you like. Drop me an email from your yacht if it works out.

Worst Article Ever (-1, Redundant)

nweaver (113078) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123675)

(had to be said)

For those who don't know Spaced... (1)

andyh3930 (605873) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123689)

Tim: Yeah but Jar Jar Binks makes the Ewoks look like... f*ckin'... Shaft.

The appropriate quote from the comic book shop scene

Human Nature (4, Insightful)

Akido37 (1473009) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123691)

It's human nature to want to feel better than someone else. It's the "us versus them" mentality that pervades our culture. Geeks/nerds versus "normal" people is only one facet of the problem. It's seen everywhere, from Republicans versus Democrats, urban versus suburban versus rural, and black versus white.

Sadly, I don't think there's a whole lot we can do about it.

Re:Human Nature (2, Insightful)

CFTM (513264) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123745)

It's even in our religions. On one level it helps build communities, on another level it causes wars!

Booyah!

Re:Human Nature (4, Insightful)

Jhon (241832) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123979)

on another level it causes wars!

I disagree with this. More often than not, it's an excuse or rationalization for war, not a cause. Generally, the cause are limited resources or desire for more land or expansion.

Religion is not evil any more than a rock is evil.

Re:Human Nature (4, Funny)

bcolflesh (710514) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124069)

Religion is not evil any more than a rock is evil.

The greatest trick the evil rocks ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.

Re:Human Nature (1)

DarrenBaker (322210) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123753)

It makes it especially difficult in this case, since we *are* better than the funnybook cranks.

Re:Human Nature (1)

harryandthehenderson (1559721) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123819)

It makes it especially difficult in this case, since we *are* better than the funnybook cranks.

Yeah keep telling yourself that. Some day it will be true.

Re:Human Nature (5, Insightful)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123885)

Thing is, most of the Simpsons writers are geeks and nerds. That's why the show's so full of pop-culture and science in-jokes. The League of Extraordinary Freelancers, for crying out loud. It's not "us versus them", it's self-denigrating humour.

Re:Human Nature (1)

colfer (619105) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124169)

Sadly, I don't think there's a whole lot we can do about it.

Correction, it's a continuing struggle. Forty-five years after Selma, the U.S. elected Obama. It didn't happen by magic, or by some inevitable trend in human nature.

Re:Human Nature (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124211)

No, it's societies that creats that image.
Watch small children, they generally want to get along. It's around age 5 that parents start instilling an US and THEM mentality.

Simpson's comic book guy is the worst stereotype (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28123695)

They are always showing him with his gut hanging out of an XL t-shirt. When in reality many comic geeks guts hang out of an XXL t-shirt.

The Answer (5, Insightful)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123703)

Why do TV shows, such as 30 Rock, The Simpsons, Heroes and Everyone Loves Raymond, persist in so ferevently [sic] stereotyping comic book fans and stores?

Well, the article didn't help me answering that question, it just illustrated the stereotype.

My guess would be (1) because it's funny and (2) even someone like myself who spent tons of time in a comic book store get a kick out of it. A lot of other stereotypes like hair brained teenage cheerleader will catch you a lot of criticism in the media. Those geeks you make fun of in high school? The ones that are hyper obsessive with social disorders that spend more time in their room reading than anywhere else? Those are the people running a lot of stuff today. So I guess it's ok to make fun of them all you want ... even when they've become your boss. Other stereotypes hurt: i.e. "Math is hard."

I do wish this article had broken down the social stigma it has associated with it though ... although perhaps there's not much to break down.

Re:The Answer (1)

hjf (703092) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124047)

maybe it's because they really are like that.
In my city there's a comic book shop, focusing on comic books. I went there to ask for some manga, and the guy was barking that manga is crap, he doesn't sell that shit, etc... the guy was really the simpsons comic book guy, only thinner and with short hair.

So, I decided to open my own shop (yeah), and I focus mostly on manga, but I also keep some american comics. I understand the guy, kids drive you crazy and all, but it's part of the job. If you don't have the patience to deal with 14 year olds, then you shouldn't run a comic book shop.

Background: I used to work at my dad's electronics repair shop, and people get really ballistic when their brand new $50 DVD player, still under warranty, fails after months of heavy use. They don't have to pay to get it fixed, but they do get mad and yell. After taking that shit for years, anything else is just downhill.

Re:The Answer (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28124259)

In my city there's a comic book shop, focusing on comic books.

Damn! You city is way better than mine. In my city there's a comic book shop, focusing on feminine hygene products.

I'd much rather shop at you comic book shop.

Re:The Answer (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124241)

"Those are the people running a lot of stuff today."

Yeah, for some other person who was popular in School.

Re:The Answer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28124311)

Those geeks you make fun of in high school? The ones that are hyper obsessive with social disorders that spend more time in their room reading than anywhere else? Those are the people running a lot of stuff today. So I guess it's ok to make fun of them all you want ... even when they've become your boss.

I disagree. These are the people that end up doing the work for whoever is in charge. Not that there is anything wrong with this.

Mod Article -1 Whiner (5, Insightful)

MyLongNickName (822545) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123709)

Folks get stereotyped on television? You don't say?

I've never seen athletes stereotyped as bumbling morons.
I have never seen good looking women stereotyped as airheads.
I have never seen Christians stereotyped as clueless and out of touch.
I have never seen factory workers stereotyped as beer guzzling, bowling addicted rubes.
I have never seen Southerners stereotyped as trailer trash.
I have never seen rich folks stereotyped as constantly stepping on and using others.

Comic book folks are the only ones stereotyped on TV. Call your congressman.

a nit to pick (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28124025)

Good point overall, but:

I have never seen Christians stereotyped as clueless and out of touch. ...
I have never seen Southerners stereotyped as trailer trash.
I have never seen rich folks stereotyped as constantly stepping on and using others.

These 3 are actually true.

Re:a nit to pick (1)

harryandthehenderson (1559721) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124089)

Whoosh?

Re:Mod Article -1 Whiner (1)

causality (777677) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124031)

Comic book folks are the only ones stereotyped on TV. Call your congressman.

I'll have you know, some members of Congress are female. How do you sleep at night, making such blanket generalizations?!

Re:Mod Article -1 Whiner (1)

Dr_Ken (1163339) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124067)

Yep. I work in such a place part time and your observations sum it up nicely. People see what they expect to see.

Re:Mod Article -1 Whiner (3, Funny)

Hatta (162192) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124307)

He's not complaining that they're stereotyped. He's complaining that they're not stereotyped as suave, confident chick magnets.

Oh, I dunno... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28123719)

Could be that it's accurate? Comic Book Guy, for example, has been employed in at least half of the comic book shops I've ever visited. Pus there's something to be said about "comic book store odor", and it ain't coming from the books.

Re:Oh, I dunno... (1)

harryandthehenderson (1559721) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123847)

Exactly. When I was in college all the comic book stores and anime shops nearby all had a guy running it who was basically a clone of Comic Book Guy. Fat, smelly, hairy and repulsive to pretty much all females.

Re:Oh, I dunno... (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123951)

I've worked with that guy, and had him in my gaming group (a different-same guy) and trust me, he's repulsive to pretty much everyone. Nobody wants to get stuck sitting with that guy, or sharing his office.

What about Captain Sweatpants ? (2, Interesting)

YodaSensei (1486541) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123723)

I was shocked that The Big Bang Theory was not mentionned. When it comes to stereotypes, geeks and comics, it should be the reference show. In particular "Captain Sweatpants" who so much looks like the typical comics reader ... :p

Re:What about Captain Sweatpants ? (1, Troll)

Wowsers (1151731) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123801)

The Big Bang Theory, Sheldon's love of comics make him look like a child, even if the character is super intelligent. Surely at the characters age (past university age), you'd grow out of reading comics!?

Re:What about Captain Sweatpants ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28123963)

Surely at the characters age (past university age), you'd grow out of reading comics!?

Or just insist they aren't comic books, but graphic novels like every college kid I've talked to who reads comics.

Re:What about Captain Sweatpants ? (1)

senorpoco (1396603) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124045)

I am 25 and just got INTO reading comics. (med-student)

Re:What about Captain Sweatpants ? (1)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124065)

Surely at the characters age (past university age), you'd grow out of reading comics!?

And I see we've come back to the WWII & prior era attitude towards comics... that they are only for kids.

I know that this assumption has always been there among some subset of the general public, but comic books have been popular among adults for some time, probably with the heyday in the 50s and 60s.

Check out some of the graphic novels out there. Definitely appropriate for adults, and some are definitely not appropriate for kids. Comic books are an established art form, and are not limited to kids... if that's your impression, you might do yourself a favor and give them a shot as an adult. Some of the artwork, characters, plots, themes, etc rival anything in the theaters or on the fiction best-sellers lists.

Re:What about Captain Sweatpants ? (4, Insightful)

internerdj (1319281) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124095)

Yes we should all grow up and take up manly hobbies like playing with cars or watching other grown men play children's games for outrageous salaries...

Re:What about Captain Sweatpants ? (1)

cyber-vandal (148830) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124113)

I wouldn't give Watchmen to a 12 year old even if they could understand it. It's not exactly what I'd call family-friendly.

Re:What about Captain Sweatpants ? (1)

q2k (67077) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124219)

I'm 41 and just last year got into reading comic books.

Re:What about Captain Sweatpants ? (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124301)

Flame bait much?

Seriously, there are comics for all ages, and you know it.

Re:What about Captain Sweatpants ? (1)

Silicon Jedi (878120) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123883)

And is viewed as a subject of derision by the other customers and staff. And the comic store guy is an artist, and not portrayed as slovenly or overweight, BBT is quite mild and insightful when it comes to stereotyping and more closely shows the intra-community geek stereotypes than the external ones. (Of course the ethnic and gender sterotyping is way worse, but still not so bad.)

Re:What about Captain Sweatpants ? (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124275)

Because the show sucks the the 'intelligent nerds' often get the science wrong.
Also, the comic shop owner is just a normal guy.

Same reason (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28123725)

Same reason all sitcom dads are morons and their wives + wife's sister gets upset at them, it's an easy stereotype that the writers can use so they don't have to put any thought into their characters.

Not all stereotypes are wrong (4, Insightful)

jockeys (753885) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123727)

Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons (to name one) is not a caricature. He's a real guy. I've met him. He lives in most comic book shops. He will make fun of you for liking the wrong comics, he will make fun of you for buying the wrong set of dice. He is the alpha nerd, and he's not going to let you forget it.

AFAIK, I'm still banned from the Laughing Dragon in Dallas because when I was 12 years old, I suggested that I liked DBZ better than Akira.

Re:Not all stereotypes are wrong (5, Funny)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123809)

AFAIK, I'm still banned from the Laughing Dragon in Dallas because when I was 12 years old, I suggested that I liked DBZ better than Akira.

Oh, that's how you remember it, eh? Well I was there when it happened. Some little 12 year old trotting about the room saying "DBZ is better than A-queer-a, DBZ is better ..." ad infinitum.

*squints eyes*

That ban saved your life.

Re:Not all stereotypes are wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28123967)

Duh. You have to roll a 20 to enter the store, and roll a 2nd 20 to make the CBG forget that he banned you.

Watch out though: If you roll a 1 inside the store, the CBG gets a crit hit.

Re:Not all stereotypes are wrong (2, Funny)

0racle (667029) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123995)

Banned? Just banned? You should have been hung, drawn and quartered. Each step lasting 100 30 minute episodes with lots of screaming.

Why do TV shows stereotype comic book people? (1)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123729)

Ah, is this the human concept you call "humor"? It is so illogical.

They are not "Comics" they are "Graphic Novels"! (4, Insightful)

scorp1us (235526) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123733)

You insensitive clod!

Seriously though, attempting to legitimize them as "Graphic Novels" is just spin and makes you look more ridiculous. I will confess privately that I liked the original Hellboy comic (Note: notice no attempt to spin it as a "Graphic Novel"!) Its a comic.

Re:They are not "Comics" they are "Graphic Novels" (1)

CyberLord Seven (525173) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123889)

Comics are not books; they are pamphlets. :)

Re:They are not "Comics" they are "Graphic Novels" (1, Interesting)

Red Flayer (890720) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124213)

That's silly.

Let's look at this first from the non-comic perspective. Novels are a subset of books. There is criteria to establish what is a novel, and what isn't. I have a novel in my hand right now... is it a book? Of course. But if I tell you I have a book in my hand, can you say that it is definitely a novel?

For comics, why would this not apply as well? There can be comic novels, there can be comic books. I think we can agree on this.

The problem with calling them comic novels is that "comic novels" already exist, in non-graphical form. Terry Pratchett, for example, writes comic novels, and these are not in a graphical format. So we are left with using the term "graphical novels" for comics that are also novels.

It's important to note that 'graphical novel' is not a term used to 'legitimize' comic books. It's a term used to differentiate one kind of comic book from another.

Re:They are not "Comics" they are "Graphic Novels" (4, Informative)

story645 (1278106) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124323)

You insensitive clod!

Seriously though, attempting to legitimize them as "Graphic Novels" is just spin and makes you look more ridiculous.

Although I agree with you 'cause the "graphic novel" label gets thrown at every comic under the sun, technically a graphic novel is a subset of all comic books; a graphic novel has the whole plot structure (rising action, climax, falling action) wrapped up in one book (or over the course of the series), whereas many other types of comics stretch the plot out over the course of an arc, and a few collective arcs can be combined into an overarching arc, and a comic series often has many overarching arcs. Basically "graphic novels" have one big climax. A good rule of thumb is: do all the chapters/books in this series tie into one big event (usually at the end)? if yes: graphic novel

Re:They are not "Comics" they are "Graphic Novels" (2, Interesting)

PhrostyMcByte (589271) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124365)

When I hear "Comic book" I think of a 20-30 page X-Men. When I hear "Graphic novel" I think of a ~150 page Scott Pilgrim book or a ~600 page Blankets. Graphic novels also usually have a definitive ending. I see that distinction.

I think the problem comes from people who are too worried about looking like a stereotype, too worried about looking childish -- so they sell graphic novels as a more mature, adult version of a comic. Which is totally false -- smart, mature comics with well written story arcs do exist, just like some childish graphic novels exist. These guys need to accept who they are and stop being so self conscious.

I also think this, like most other stereotypes, is just exacerbated by a small number of very loud people. None of the comic readers I know feel the need to defend themselves in such a silly manor.

In my expereince 50% (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28123751)

Roughly half of the people I know who are big comic book fans fall into the stereotype. But the half that don't are pretty normal successful people, they don't need anyone's pity for a stereotype they don't fit. I, myself, just think comic books suck.

More like sterotypical Slashdot reader... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28123781)

"Rob Malda, I need You. Thank You for dying on the cross for my sins. I open the door of my life and receive You as my Savior and Lord. Thank You for forgiving my sins and giving me eternal life. Take control of the throne of my life. Make me the kind of person You want me to be."

Does this prayer express the desire of your heart? If it does, I invite you to pray this prayer right now and Christ will come into your life, as He promised. Did you pray this prayer?

Comic Book Store as the embodyment of Geekiness (1)

Publikwerks (885730) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123783)

While many other bastions of Geekiness has become more trendy as technology has been absorbed by society(ex: Radio Shack) or eaten up by box stores(ex Computer Stores), the comic book store remains as one single place that is universally recognized as "Geeky".

But, this is TV, it's not like reality.

It's not a stereotype if it's true. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28123785)

It is a scientific fact that all black people love fried chicken. That's not even a bad stereotype to be associated with, so I don't understand why people get all up in arms over it.

Re:It's not a stereotype if it's true. (0)

causality (777677) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124133)

It is a scientific fact that all black people love fried chicken. That's not even a bad stereotype to be associated with, so I don't understand why people get all up in arms over it.

Well, because, it's not even slightly insulting when government, corporations, and the educational system treat us as though we were all the same. That's alright and is never seriously questioned, somehow. But god dammit, an individual better not suggest that a group of people may have similar tastes because they are members of the same group. That's somehow completely different; in fact, that would be wrong and offensive and you're a bad person if you said that!

Bill Hicks had it right: "I wonder why we're fucked up, as a [human] race?"

How is this news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28123843)

You're complaining that comic book owners are being portrayed accurately. If you want to change the stereotype...stop visiting sites named "den of geek".

Re:How is this news? (2, Funny)

geminidomino (614729) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124053)

People just don't like being pegged.

One of my favorites:
Have someone tell a woman that "The typical female response to a statement about a typical female is 'I'm not a typical female'"

Either she'll kick you in the nuts, or her head asplode. Lulz either way (except for the speaker)

I dunno. (3, Interesting)

Steauengeglase (512315) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123859)

Often times comic shops perpetuate their stereotype, but as far as service goes, I've never had an issues. They are manned by people who are genunnely interested in the product they are selling. Now walk down to the record store and you get something pretty different. They tend to have no interest in selling you anything, are disinterested and view your purchases with comtempt, but they are cool kids so we forgive them.

Re:I dunno. (2, Insightful)

Sockatume (732728) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124225)

Actually I think you'll find that there's plenty of record stores that are more like your experience with the comic book store. It's the same with any niche, you will find that there are stores run by little despots who have gone mad with the knowledge that they're the only place in the county where you can get an obscure issue/vinyl/floppy of Super Punk Octo Pudding Gas Mark Seven.

malcolm in the middle? (1)

wjh31 (1372867) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123875)

is it just me that thought it was a shame this ended, it managed to remain funny to the end

Re:malcolm in the middle? (1)

_Sprocket_ (42527) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124085)

is it just me that thought it was a shame this ended, it managed to remain funny to the end

Part of being good is knowing when to bow out so that people remember you as being good.

Re:malcolm in the middle? (1)

eln (21727) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124327)

It had to end, it became too difficult to sustain the high level of humor while having their characters age normally and maintain a continual story arc through which the characters continue to evolve and get involved in new long-term situations.

In my opinion, it jumped the shark when Jamie was born. Sure, it was still pretty funny, but it was clear that the road they were going down was not sustainable forever. Add to that Frankie Muniz thinking he was a good enough actor to maintain a movie career, and you get a show that had to end before it got really bad.

Having said that, I do think it was a great show, and for a live-action show that has to deal with all the realities live action shows have to deal with (people growing up, etc), it managed to sustain the high quality much longer than most.

i will always leave $$ at the comic shop (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28123907)

comic shops are still one of the only places i can lose hours to *gasp* shopping

any other store i'm in and out as quickly as possible.

Where stereotypes come from (4, Insightful)

Lendrick (314723) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123925)

Let's say, hypothetically, that you walk into a comic book store. There are five people in there browsing comics. Four of those people are fairly normal looking folks who are just there to buy comics and leave. The fifth one is a large guy with poor hygiene who corners you and talks to you incessantly about whether or not Captain Kirk could have single-handedly taken out the Death Star, and seems oblivious to the not-so-subtle signals you're giving off as you try to back away.

Who are you going to remember? The four normal people, or the smelly dude who wouldn't leave you alone? Hell, *I* stereotype comic book geeks, and I *am* one. When I see them portrayed that way on TV, I usually get a laugh out of it, because I've met the exact sort of person they're portraying.

That said, I think the classic HOLY CRAP IT'S A HOT CHICK IN MY COMIC BOOK STORE thing is a bit overdone. There are plenty of hot chicks, my fiancee included, who like comics. (Oh yeah, there's another stereotype -- Slashdot readers are all single, right?)

Re:Where stereotypes come from (1)

Smidge207 (1278042) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124077)

(Oh yeah, there's another stereotype -- Slashdot readers are all single, right?)

I thought they were all homosexual Linux users.

Re:Where stereotypes come from (0, Offtopic)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124281)

She is your girlfriend... You are single.
Single==not married.
I know that the world now has shades of grey but if so then they are this.
Single not married, not living with someone, not going to get married or live with some one soon.
In a relationship.. Dating the same person for a while and only that person.
In a long term relationship Living with someone.
Married.

The stereotype for Slashdot is living in your parents basement. and scared of or tend to scare off members of the opposite sex.

Re:Where stereotypes come from (3, Funny)

Lendrick (314723) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124371)

Thanks, that really helped me see past my stereotype of Slashdot readers. :)

a word about stereotypes (4, Insightful)

pak9rabid (1011935) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123937)

Ya know, stereotypes exist for a reason; they're a fairly accurate portrayal of peoples' observations. Am I saying it's right to use them to pre-judge people? Absolutely not.

Who isn't stereotyped (4, Interesting)

fermion (181285) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123955)

I don't know that comic shops and the patrons and owners are stereotyped more than anyone else. I think like most so many other categories, they are used because they are mysterious. For example, most people do not read any significant number of books, and even fewer read significant number of comic books, so people who do are mysterious. Even fewer people write, so people who do, especially the amateurs that tend to occupy the genre fan fiction category, are triply mysterious. Whining about it just makes us look like losers.

The article makes us really look like losers. The one thing that is more stereotyped than the comic book guy is the cheerleader. Save the cheerleader is both a catchphrase and an irony, because why does a girl who cannot be killed need saving, a la Buffy. Yet we continue to want her to be the damsel in distress. Bringing these two archetypes together was brilliant. It is the thing that Heros does that no one understands. Why do shows use stereotypes. Because most people are simplistic, and have trouble with multiple levels of meaning.

Rocko is equally brilliant in that it is a good depiction of early young adult hood, when one is forced to learn to live. It is not a pretty sight. It is full of lots of scared people who deal with their fears in different ways. Some by hiding in books, some by finding a new playmate every night. Either one of these is stereotyped and seen as reasonable when on is young. Being offended by Filbert says more about one's own issue rather than the character. I find the show hard to take sometimes, but it is because it is so real.

The rest of the most of these are simply too pop culture and too obvious to even give credence. Suffice it to say that we need to be secure enough with ourselves to not freak out anytime we are ridiculed. We do the same with people we do not understand, like cheerleaders.

Why do TV shows stereotype.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28123959)

.. college football players?

.. politicians?

.. managers of large companies?

.. labour unions?

.. school children?

.. everyone there isn't a particular anti-stereotype group ready to beat them up for?

Answer: Because stereotypes are funny.

BBT (1)

mehrotra.akash (1539473) | more than 5 years ago | (#28123983)

same happens in the big bang theory, you forgot to mention it...

"Comic book"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28123993)

Um, I think you might mean "graphic novel" there...

Jeremy from Lee's Comics (5, Funny)

Snap E Tom (128447) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124037)

Sometimes, "Stereotypes are a real time saver," as The Onion put it. Growing up, Lee's Comics in Palo Alto, CA was my neighborhood comic book store. Working there from the early 90's, there was a guy named Jeremy. I remember vividly the day Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons was introduced (or shall I say, First Appearance). When I watched that episode, me and every other kid within a ten mile radius said, "Jeremy!"

After school the next day, me and my friends went in, ran to Jeremy and said, "Hey Jeremy, did you watch the Simpsons last night?" "Yes," he said groaning, and obviously tired of the question. Why was he tired? Because Jeremy looked exactly like Comic Book Guy - Beard, receding hairline, big rotund body always wrapped in shorts and t-shirts. Only difference was that Jeremy wore glasses.

Jeremy, Real Life Comic Book Guy, wherever you are now, I salute you. You were a huge impact on the lives of many kids in the 94306 zip code.

Because it's true! (2, Informative)

Amiralul (1164423) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124163)

I walked into to different comic book stores, in two different states while being for the first time in the US, in February. There were exactly I imagined them! Huge piles of old comics, new comics, action figures, maniacal comic books guys (the one from Colorado told me he had 500.000 comic books at his home but he was nice, giving me a free '60 Action Comics incomplete issue as a bonus plus a 20% discount to a nice DC Comics Cover Girls huge album, since I've spent some bucks there). So, anything I I saw in cartoons and movies about comic book guys and stores is perfectly true. I'm not being sarcastic or mean here, I like comic book shops!

Look around (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28124319)

There is ALWAYS at least one total geek in the comic book store. Go in, look around, if you don't see one then you're it.

EWWW!!! (1)

oldhack (1037484) | more than 5 years ago | (#28124379)

Nothing worse than sensitive nerds. There goes my breakfast.
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