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Xbox To Get Live TV and Massive VOD Update

Soulskill posted more than 4 years ago | from the consoles-are-eating-the-rest-of-my-devices dept.

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CNETNate writes "It's a global first for Microsoft, and massive news for Xbox owners. Redmond and the largest pay TV service in the UK — Sky, owned in part by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp — has tied a deal that brings simulcast TV, sports, entertainment shows, pay-per-view movies and back catalogue television to the Xbox 360. It's an entirely streamed service, offering no download-to-own content, and partly rivals the BBC iPlayer, which is available on UK PlayStation consoles and the Nintendo Wii. The service will go live later in the year at no cost to existing subscribers, and screenshots show it fits in seamlessly with the Xbox Live interface."

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Also getting live TV (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28135677)

Launching soon, live goatse [goatse.fr] TV channel, and goatse on "demand".

Re:Also getting live TV (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28136967)

I hate the commercials on goatse TV

Availability? (1)

StingRay02 (640085) | more than 4 years ago | (#28135687)

Is this UK only? Seems that way from the articles, but the summary doesn't mention anything. If it is, that's good news for them, but kinda useless for the rest of us.

Re:Availability? (4, Informative)

jools33 (252092) | more than 4 years ago | (#28135767)

Sky currently only operate in the UK - you can't buy SKY tv overseas - unless you have a UK based bank account - so I wonder if this means sky are becoming more global - or if this really is just content for the UK market only...and will Sony respond by cutting a deal with Viacom?

Re:Availability? (2, Interesting)

rwjyoung (674310) | more than 4 years ago | (#28135983)

Not strictly true, we needed a UK address for Sky to send there junk mail to but we paid with a credit card and viewed Sky TV in Switzerland for a couple of years. There is a company [insatinternational.com] who will install the sky satellite dish and box with card all over Europe, but I am not sure how legit they are or if they affiliated with Sky in any way (my guess is no)

sky is part of fox and they did own direct tv at o (1)

Joe The Dragon (967727) | more than 4 years ago | (#28137445)

sky is part of fox and they did own direct tv at one time also sky does not have real vod on there boxes at this this time and direct tv does.

Re:Availability? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28135989)

I have SkyTV in NZ, it is a local service here. They deliver content to a number of markets internationally already.

Re:Availability? (1)

ionix5891 (1228718) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136043)

Since when is Rep of Ireland in the UK?

Re:Availability? (1)

jools33 (252092) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136101)

Since when is Rep of Ireland in the UK?

OK my appologies - being Welsh myself I'm not exactly pro-uk either...

Re:Availability? (1)

Computershack (1143409) | more than 4 years ago | (#28137827)

OK my appologies - being Welsh myself I'm not exactly pro-uk either...

But like the rest of your countrymen, you're more than happy to accept money from Westminster to keep your country running.

Re:Availability? (2, Informative)

tychver (1293788) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136203)

Sky is just one of many brand names for News Corporation's broadcasting services. New Zealand has Sky, Germany has Premiere and Australia Foxtel.

Re:Availability? (0)

Seriousity (1441391) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136581)

Sigh, yet another reason to NOT own an xbox...

Sky currently only operate [sic] in the UK

I wish this were true, sadly SKY is available here in New Zealand. I refuse to live in a flat with SKY TV as the people that have SKY TV are paying their hard-earned money to have a mindset forced down their throats in the form of terrible sitcoms, repeated movies and advertisement after advertisement after sanity-warping advertisement.

It can be hard to get insightful commentary on anything from some of these SKY customers, and understandably so - if you're paying good money to drown yourself in mass media, subconsciously you will perceive a need to partake of the service often in order to get your moneys worth. Subsequently, as you inevitably approach the threshold of over-exposure, your intuition is eroded and your standards lowered.

Remember folks, TV feeds the banal desires of the lowest common denominator. Moreover, it aims to stop you from thinking.

Don't be a statistic. Turn off your television.

Re:Availability? (2, Informative)

BlackstarSolar (1564957) | more than 4 years ago | (#28135807)

From the article "Millions of Xbox 360 owners in Britain and Ireland" Pretty sure this means it's just us in the UK. Bare in mind that the US only has had access to netflix for quite a while now. Personally I'm more interested in the pricing of this service, the post says "no cost to existing subscribers" but I can't find any evidence of this anywhere. As an existing subscriber I think it should be free but I doubt it will go that way.

Re:Availability? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28136027)

"Millions of Xbox 360 owners in Britain and Ireland" Pretty sure this means it's just us in the UK

A bit of news for ya buddy... Ireland became independant in 1922!

Re:Availability? (2, Insightful)

Ciggy (692030) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136173)

A bit of news for you...only the Republic of Ireland (Eire) became independent in 1922

UK is "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" in full.

So at a guess, "Britain and Ireland" can either mean "UK and Eire" (interpreting Ireland as "the whole of Ireland, Northern & Republic") or UK (interpreting "Ireland" as "Northern Ireland"); Perhaps we should ask Reuters.

Re:Availability? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28136261)

"Britain and Ireland" is never used to mean the UK: its only meaning is the UK and Ireland.

Re:Availability? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28136267)

The full name of the UK is:
'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.'

The name of the South is 'The Repuplic of Ireland'.

The island is simply called 'Ireland'.

The original quoted statement FTA meant the islands of Great Britain and Ireland. The poster I quoted mentioned 'just the UK'. The Republic of Ireland is not part of the UK.

Re:Availability? (1)

ais523 (1172701) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136557)

You're correct, but for the sake of completeness, I'll add to that: there are also locations in the world (mostly islands substantially smaller than Great Britain or Ireland) that are part of the UK, but not of Great Britain nor anywhere in Island.

Re:Availability? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28137555)

....and this is why the British empire fell apart. Everyone involved over there seems more interested in terminology and taxonomies (most of which are horribly flawed) than practical concerns....sorry for my "anti-anglite" attitude but I work for a UK based company and it's been a bad week of dealing with the mothership ;)

Re:Availability? (1, Offtopic)

LordSnooty (853791) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136137)

now you know how I feel when I wade through 100 articles about how Sen. Bob (CA (R)) has gained support for the lobbyists and tacked an amendment onto Prop 61 of the REALLYWELLACRONYMED Bill in the State Senate Legislature Tuesday

Re:Availability? (1)

Fred_A (10934) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136371)

Is this UK only? Seems that way from the articles, but the summary doesn't mention anything. If it is, that's good news for them, but kinda useless for the rest of us.

I don't believe this thing will cross the Channel any time soon. Beyond the strange idea of "connect your XBox to your TV to watch TV" (huh ?), all French ISPs already offer this as part as their standard plan. And you need Internet access to use the XBox thing. So it's kind of pointless (unless you're *really* fond of the XBox interface). Especially since it'll presumably be streaming from outside the ISP's network instead of (currently) from its own servers.

For the record, Sky is evil (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28135693)

If you take all the evil US megacorps and add them together, that's the kind of evil we have in Sky.

Nothing good can come from this. Xbox owners beware. :-(

Wow! (0)

viyh (620825) | more than 4 years ago | (#28135799)

My computer can do the same thing already!

Re:Wow! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28135835)

Oh, better cancel this then guys. Microsoft? Sky? Hi. Turns out that this isn't necessary. viyh's computer can do it already.

Re:Wow! (1)

PedroV100 (1497409) | more than 4 years ago | (#28135863)

but it is mostly (if not all) pirated. the internet's economic model doesnt allow for widespread legal availability of tv shows.

Re:Wow! (1)

viyh (620825) | more than 4 years ago | (#28135891)

Um, hulu?

Re:Wow! (1)

PedroV100 (1497409) | more than 4 years ago | (#28135903)

quoting hulu: "we're sorry our video library can only be streamed within the united states..." for the information you can see http://www.hulu.com/support/content_faq#outside_us [hulu.com]. = (

Re:Wow! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28136269)

And according to the article this service is only to those in the UK, so what's your point?

Re:Wow! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28136647)

The point it that "the internet's economic model doesnt allow for widespread legal availability of tv shows." They are limiting it based on location. What's the point of having a world wide web if people are creating artificial borders.

Where's the US in that article? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28135829)

Unlike in American Football/Handball, there's more to the world than the US. I assume ur a yank 'cos only a yank would say someting like that.

Xbox v.s. Xbox360 (1)

pengipengi (1352837) | more than 4 years ago | (#28135845)

Xbox is a gaming console first announced 2000, discontinued 2005-2006... Why does everybody call Xbox360 for Xbox?

It's a heck to find information about the regular xbox theese days... Everything called just "xbox" is the new one...

Re:Xbox v.s. Xbox360 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28135901)

Probably because "Xbox 360" is a terrible name, and needlessly lengthy.

Re:Xbox v.s. Xbox360 (1)

johnsie (1158363) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136655)

The Xbox 360 is the Newest version of the Xbox. Just like Windows XP is still Windows.

Re:Xbox v.s. Xbox360 (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 4 years ago | (#28139007)

Wholeheartedly agreed. we pedants should make an organized drive to tag all stories about the Xbox 360 with "!Xbox Xbox360". I'm dismayed but not surprised that the public at large will do this; I'm saddened by the fact that the Slashdot community will, because it suggests to me that lots of the people commenting in games aren't nerds, they're just gamers. That doesn't make them better or worse people in any way, but it's Slashdot's nerdliness that makes it special.

RROD Not Included! (0, Flamebait)

longbot (789962) | more than 4 years ago | (#28135907)

This seems to me to be a very dumb idea.

I don't know about others, but I for one avoid services tied to hardware that has a high likelihood of failure.

Anyone else remember Time Warner Cable's early digital / DVR boxes? The horribly twitchy ones made by Scientific Atlanta? Or Verizon's FiOS routers from hell / shitty set top boxes?

Re:RROD Not Included! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28135943)

Good thing SkyTV has a streaming player for the PC too, then.

The Xbox 360 isn't twitchy or unstable. It just breaks once in a while (less with the more recent models, no?). That's not comparable to the FiOS routers which are broken constantly

Global or just UK only? (3, Insightful)

tero (39203) | more than 4 years ago | (#28135917)

From TFA: "Millions of Xbox 360 owners in Britain and Ireland will be able to watch live programing such as Premier League soccer and movies following a deal with pay-TV group BSkyB"

That's not very "global" to me - what about the millions of Xbox users outside UK who'd also want to pay and see Premier League and other stuff on their Xbox? And yeah, that was rhetorical question, I know we're hosed until the "global" train arrives on our little local station.

Re:Global or just UK only? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28136115)

From TFA: "Millions of Xbox 360 owners in Britain and Ireland will be able to watch live programing such as Premier League soccer and movies following a deal with pay-TV group BSkyB"

That's not very "global" to me - what about the millions of Xbox users outside UK who'd also want to pay and see Premier League and other stuff on their Xbox? And yeah, that was rhetorical question, I know we're hosed until the "global" train arrives on our little local station.

From TFA: "Millions of Xbox 360 owners in Britain and Ireland will be able to watch live programing such as Premier League soccer and movies following a deal with pay-TV group BSkyB"

That's not very "global" to me - what about the millions of Xbox users outside UK who'd also want to pay and see Premier League and other stuff on their Xbox? And yeah, that was rhetorical question, I know we're hosed until the "global" train arrives on our little local station.

Who cares? I'm in the UK and with the lack of Netflix on the 360 here, I'm jumping up and down with excitement!

Re:Global or just UK only? (5, Interesting)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136117)

What about the billions of computer users outside the US that would like access to Netflix, Hulu and every other VoD solution that seems to be geographically limited...?

In short - the reason you can't have the Sky content is the same reason we can't have Hulu content, and that is that Sky doesn't have the distribution license outside of its particular viewership area. Premier League TV rights are a huge huge business...

Re:Global or just UK only? (1)

tero (39203) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136943)

Sure, I understand that.
I'm just tired of all these "global" announcements that really affect a tiny fraction of global users. Also very tired of all the arcane old licensing deals...

The Premier League offering in my country is very crappy and very limited - and the commentators are even crappier, the packaging sucks and it's really freaking expensive channel to get for the value you're getting - just for once, it would be so cool to be able to get the freedom to choose whatever value proposition you like, instead of being force fed by all these middlemen..

But yeah, like you said, there's too much money involved, so there's probably very little hope of it ever working like that .. and in the meanwhile I'll be watching the games at the local pub that "pirates" it off Sky (i.e. they have a subscription through proxy in UK). Oh well, for a second there I thought I'd have to buy a Xbox :-)

Re:Global or just UK only? (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 4 years ago | (#28137193)

You misunderstood the summary then - its not a global announcement, its a global first. As in Microsoft hasn't done this before anywhere.

Re:Global or just UK only? (1)

Lumpy (12016) | more than 4 years ago | (#28137273)

How about the Trillions of US people that want to watch the netflix they PAY FOR without paying a "fee" to microsoft as well?

Jeebus, the Xbox live system is the largest scam I have ever seen. they snag $60.00 a year out of every owner because they cripple the boxes online capabilities if you dont.

Yes I love my Xbox360, no I dont think that having to have a "gold" account is fair for netflix or basic online play. Make me pay for ranked and the big events as well as some value added stuff.

Re:Global or just UK only? (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 4 years ago | (#28137559)

Actually, it's more like $40 [amazon.com], but the point is taken. Netflix should be open to silver members, not just gold. Still, I gladly pay the $40 each year for Live. Live is still by far the best and most consistent online service out there for gaming (for the console anyway). PSN and Nintendo Online, by contrast, are all over the map.

Re:Global or just UK only? (1)

sricetx (806767) | more than 4 years ago | (#28138537)

So don't pay a yearly fee to Microsoft to watch Netflix then. Buy MediaMall's Playon server for a one-time $40 fee and stream Netflix, Hulu, CBS, etc. content to the xbox. It's windows-only, but it does run fine in a VBOX Windows XP virtual machine on a linux host. To hell with Xbox Live. Who needs it?

Re:Global or just UK only? (1)

CopaceticOpus (965603) | more than 4 years ago | (#28138531)

When is someone going to figure this out? Suppose Media Company X has some recorded shows and live sports coverage they'd like to put online, and make a profit from it. They want to make it available globally, but advertisers are only interested in targeting specific regions.

The solution is to allow any website or company to broadcast this content to any end user for a fee, on a per-minute or per-segment basis. The content will have programmed commercial breaks which the broadcasting website can use any way they see fit. The broadcasting website might accept the stream from X and rebroadcast it themselves, or they might give the end user a unique key which gives their browser permission to receive the stream directly from X.

This creates an environment in which there is profit to be made, and so there will be competition to set up the best service which shows content from X. If I run a website in France, I can set up some deals with local advertisers. If I pay X 30 cents for the right to send a show to a user, and I can collect 60 cents from advertisers, I can make a nice profit. Alternatively, I might allow users to buy credit and simply pay 50 cents per show to watch ad-free.

Meanwhile, X makes a profit without needing to figure out how to deal with advertisers in each country. They also avoid tying their service to a specific type of hardware. Geographic and technological limitations are avoided, so that the largest possible audience can be reached.

Re:Global or just UK only? (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | more than 4 years ago | (#28138781)

When is someone going to figure this out? Suppose Media Company X has some recorded shows and live sports coverage they'd like to put online, and make a profit from it. They want to make it available globally, but advertisers are only interested in targeting specific regions.

The solution is to .... *snip*.

Your solution does not take into account that that Media company may not own the rights to distribute outside its own territory, especially when it comes to sporting events. Distribution rights are hot potatoes, and change hands for huge amounts of money.

Re:Global or just UK only? (1)

Inda (580031) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136127)

Judging from the Sopcast steams I watch, every other country in the world gets all English Premier League matches free. Sky and the Premier League wont show all matches in the UK because they think it'll reduce gate money.

Re:Global or just UK only? (1)

johnsie (1158363) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136687)

Most UK isp's are blocking sopcast, so in fact you're getting an access that many people in the UK don't even have. I personally have to go to the pub to watch some sports events, but someone in an another country can watch it on sopcast.

Re:Global or just UK only? (1)

jools33 (252092) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136157)

Skys content - particularly the sport is bound up with a ton of licensing restrictions - Sports tv rights are still bound by licensing deals that arose in the 1980s - and don't seem to be changing anytime soon. I currently live in Sweden - if you wanna watch a game of rugby in Sweden on TV - you basically have 3 choices:

1) Buy a big satellite dish and put it in your back yard... (not an option for me - I live in an appartment that frowns on big dishes...
2) Find a dodgy internet stream - quality is pretty crappy - often laggy - I watched one game where the commentry was 3 minutes ahead of the picture - which makes for some really frustrating viewing - I can tell you
3) Find an Irish pub with a big satellite dish. - This is my preffered option - whenever I get the chance.

For rugby - there appears to be very little drive to get the rights of the sports more widely available - the unions aren't interested - and the BBC / SKY certainly aren't either - they do everything to ensure that the existing UK based licensing rules dreamt up in the 80s are enforced for all eternity.

I would love to be able to purchase the games that I want to watch when I want to watch them... maybe in another 20 years...

Re:Global or just UK only? (1)

cb95amc (99589) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136493)

I can't imagine the various broadcasters around the globe that licence the Premier League from Sky being too happy with them allowing the deal with Microsoft to expand globally...Would have thought there would some fairly detailed contract terms around certain broadcasters having exclusivity on the Premier League rights in their country.

Re:Global or just UK only? (1)

johnsie (1158363) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136669)

The problem is that companies are creating artificial borders on what should be a World Wide Web. This should not be allowed to happen.

Re:Global or just UK only? (1)

NoobHunter (1090113) | more than 4 years ago | (#28137085)

So...I wonder when everyone will remember that Canada still exists. Nice of the US to offer all those wonderful Xbox services. Nice of the UK to get this wonderful little service too. Hulu, Netflix, etc. Hell, even Apple and Itunes shaft us on a continual basis.

Re:Global or just UK only? (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 4 years ago | (#28137479)

Just when we had solved the "getting first run of some great new BBC show years before everyone else" problem with good old Pirate Bay, now we have a new reason to be jealous of the Brits.

You guys had better be careful. You keep getting stuff like this and people will begin to resent you as much as the Americans.

So, in other words (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28135957)

You can now use an Xbox 360 as a really expensive, loud, and fragile cable box? Woohoo!

Re:So, in other words (1)

Cornflake917 (515940) | more than 4 years ago | (#28139387)

Umm most HD cable boxes run for at least $200 dollars, the XBox is not much more expensive. I know this is anecdotal, but I've had to replace my DirectTV box once (and had to restart my contract), and never had any problems with my XBox.

mod -1k for defending MS (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28135987)

I have to admit, even thought I am not a fan of microsoft corporation, they did get it right with the 360. It's a fantastic console. Even though I hate Windows and other microsoft software, I have to commend them for the 360.

And although not related to the 360, I find their mice and keyboards fantastic also. The intellimouse 1.1 I think is the best mouse I have ever had...

Maybe they should just quit software and move to hardware only because that seems to be a strength of theirs (except the Zune...)

cue trolls replying 'linux>windows' without having read my post properly

Re:mod -1k for defending MS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28137611)

Xbox has failed on almost every level, it's hardware is last-gen (my PS2 had a DVD drive and a optional HDD), it's not cutting edge, and not reliable either.

Sure a few brainwashed early adopted Xbots love getting their wallets scooped clear for online play, but it does not make it a great console.

I even heard there were a few idiots that still suffer the Xbox, because they have been conditioned into thinking Sony don't deserve to win another gaming generation by making great hardware and investing in software studios.

Re:mod -1k for defending MS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28138347)

You ARE one of those "Xbots". A fanboy is a fanboy, and ONLY a fanboy subscribes to "hurr, only stupid people like that other console that I don't have" bullshit.

Whats the catch? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28136001)

I'm waiting for more details before I start even considering this a good idea; my monies on it requiring a Sky Broadband ADSL connection...

Another Layer of DRM! Hoorah! (1, Insightful)

NickFortune (613926) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136007)

So for all the folks who can't watch the TV because the XBox is plugged into it, now have a slution. They can watch the TV through the XBox, with an added layer of DRM, customer profiling and what have you added in, I have no doubt.

Can't really see this one changing the world, somehow...

Re:Another Layer of DRM! Hoorah! (1)

ErroneousBee (611028) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136105)

Typical Sky and Xbox customers probably dont care or dont understand the issues.

They will lap this up in droves till they realise they are now spending 100quid/month on the combined Sky/MS Live/Broadband services, and still have no more functionality than a freeview PVR.

Re:Another Layer of DRM! Hoorah! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28136165)

Except being able to actually watch the Premier League on it. That doesn't work so well with Freeview.

Not sure what kind of broadband you're paying for to bring your total to £100 a month either.

Re:Another Layer of DRM! Hoorah! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28136215)

I pay £55 a month for the full SkyHD, SkyTalk and SkyBroadband package and £5 a month for Live.

It's not £100. Also, I'd much rather watch Sky Player via the 360 on my television than on my laptop/PC.

Re:Another Layer of DRM! Hoorah! (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136357)

People will only care if it stops them doing what they want to do. I suspect this isn't going to.

Re:Another Layer of DRM! Hoorah! (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 4 years ago | (#28138983)

Can't really see this one changing the world, somehow...

Then wake up because more IP streaming means less power in the hands of traditional broadcasters.

Re:Another Layer of DRM! Hoorah! (1)

NickFortune (613926) | more than 4 years ago | (#28139305)

Then wake up because more IP streaming means less power in the hands of traditional broadcasters.

Only if people use the service - and I have difficulty imagining that happening in this particular case, Drinky.

Let's face it, most XBox owners who want Sky probably already get it. I can't see many folks subscribing to this service just so they can get Sky over their XBox instead of direct from cable or satellite.

And for that matter, we're only talking about streaming Sky, so the only broadcaster I can see it affecting is Sky - and it's their business in the first case.

I can see how, in general, the trend to streamed video on demand is going to shake things up, but I really don't see what either side hopes to achieve with this specific exercise.

Re:Another Layer of DRM! Hoorah! (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 4 years ago | (#28139495)

I can see how, in general, the trend to streamed video on demand is going to shake things up, but I really don't see what either side hopes to achieve with this specific exercise.

Microsoft hopes to extend their reach and gain experience. Sky hopes to maintain relevance and gain experience.

Sounds good. (1)

VenomPhallus (904463) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136011)

There's no way that "at no cost to existing subscribers" means this is going to be free to use; why would Sky undercut themselves?

I think it means that you won't have to pay anything to access the service (unlike, say, PlayTV which requires an outlay for the kit). Same as the downloadable films; any Live user can browse the service without having to pay, but it costs to actually download them.

I suppose it's too much to ask that MS sort out the constant.......... pauses........... when......... trying.......... to........... navigate........... NXE menus.......... as well?

Simulcast? (0, Troll)

DreamsAreOkToo (1414963) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136039)

Simulcast? Really? I'm a person that believes that speech evolves and there's a natural progression in language... but that doesn't excuse terrible marketing words. This neither flows off the tongue nor is intuitive. I mean, how do you even say it? Sim you'll cast? Sy mule cast? Sim ool cast? And what does it mean? Simulated broadcasting?

I know this is listed in some online dictionaries (I just checked), but really, words really ought to be meaningful before being accepted as "language."

Re:Simulcast? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28136225)

I've only ever heard it pronounced 'SIM ull cast'. 'mul' as in 'multi'. I think the only person who pronounces that 'moolti' would be Leeloo in Fifth Element.

While you're bringing the hate on neologisms, can I suggest these from the 'Sequel' page on wikipedia ('Prequel' is so common now I'm excluding it...)

Interquel, Midquel, Sidequel, Threequel

ewwwwwwwwwwwwww

Re:Simulcast? (1)

_Shad0w_ (127912) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136455)

It's in the OED with the earliest cited usage dated from 1948:

1948 Amer. N. & Q. May 26/2 To simulcast, to broadcast by radio and television simultaneously. 1948 N.Y. Herald Tribune 15 June 16/6 A press agent at WCAU-TV in Philadelphia has rather timorously launched the verb 'simulcast' into the uneasy seas of the English language.

See, now you even know who to blame.

Re:Simulcast? (1)

Novotny (718987) | more than 4 years ago | (#28138309)

Wish I had mods points atm, that's not a troll at all. It's a very good point. Marketing people are always making up stupid words these days.

Price (1)

Inda (580031) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136145)

And Sky and MS will probably want a week's wages to watch a half-hour programme.

Why do the likes of Sky, Virgin and the other online providers think I'll spend a fiver on a streamed, low quality DVD, when I can get the same content in the bargin bin in Tescos? The same content that I can lend, resell, rip, ...

Really! You have to admire their optimism! (4, Interesting)

Chris Tucker (302549) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136193)

"It's an entirely streamed service, offering no download-to-own content"

Anyone remember the first series of The IT Crowd, streamed online only to the UK, WMV DRMed up one side and down the other. And on The Pirate Bay as a .avi file within minutes after each streamed episode was over?

Good times, good times!

Really, why do they bother? The stream will be intercepted somewhere inside the XBox, or fed from the XBox into a digital recorder or computer, converted to .avi and upped to TPB. all automatically.

Assuming, of course, the programming is worth it and is unavailable elsewhere.

Re:Really! You have to admire their optimism! (1)

Gulthek (12570) | more than 4 years ago | (#28137111)

Definitely. The media companies just don't seem to understand one crucial fact: if we can see or hear it, we can record it.

That's it. There's absolutely no way around that fact. Even if the "solution" ultimately turns out to be an HD camera with a feed from the output of the sound system, that quality will be good enough for people to pirate it if they want to. If there is no piracy of the content, no one cares.

Re:Really! You have to admire their optimism! (1)

MrNemesis (587188) | more than 4 years ago | (#28139459)

Assuming, of course, the programming is worth it and is unavailable elsewhere.

Your comment made me think of today's Daily Mash :)

SEVEN million people in the UK are illegally downloading the sort of music and films you wouldn't pay for even as you heard the ominous click of a gun being cocked.
According to the Strategic Advisory Board for Intellectual Property, illegal downloaders are accessing material that could be worth up to £120bn a year if it was any good.

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-%26-entertainment/seven-million-people-downloading-stuff-you-wouldn't-pay-for-if-there-was-a-gun-to-your-head-200905291790/ [thedailymash.co.uk]

Price..? (3, Interesting)

bhunachchicken (834243) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136231)

Any mention of the price anywhere? Because if I need to sign up to Sky to use this service, then it's not really solving anything. Personally I want access to a massive library of films and TV shows to watch on a pay-per-play basis, without any ties.

The thing that is still stunning me is that you'd think Sony, being the huge entertainment conglomerate that it is, would've been offering this already with the PS3. Yes; I know that you can rent movies from the Playstation Network, but there are two major flaws with that service,

1) It's not available outside of the US (I mean, why? Seriously, why? Is it European law or something?!)
2) It's too expensive.

I'm sure they'll do it eventually, but to be honest you'd be hard pressed to believe we're living in the 21st century sometimes...

Re:Price..? (1)

ThatGuyJon (1299463) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136373)

The thing that is still stunning me is that you'd think Sony, being the huge entertainment conglomerate that it is, would've been offering this already with the PS3.

RTFS much?

...rivals the BBC iPlayer, which is available on UK PlayStation consoles...

Re:Price..? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28136601)

Errm, the PS3 can already get all of this (for less $$$)

Skyplayer (the Sky service) is already viewable in the PS3 browser, as is iPlayer, and the soon to be launched Euro Hulu service.

Re:Price..? (1)

rAiNsT0rm (877553) | more than 4 years ago | (#28137117)

E3 this year, my prediction is that one of them will offer something like this service in the U.S. it may just be DVR/ATSC tuner, it may be something more full-blown like this... but one of the big two will do it and it will be the sales generator.

Re:Price..? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28138071)

While probably not directly in response to this, Sony did supposedly release PlayTV (a device) in the UK in September of last year. So maybe this is MS's response, and also explains why it's in such a limited market--afaik, PlayTV is only available in the UK too.

And yes, I too am disappointed in Sony's slowness in coming up with a PVR or streaming device for the PS3 for the rest of the world's market. The PS3, imo, is a pretty damn cool device that seems continually hamstrung by Sony's incompetence in managing and expanding the opportunities for device users. They allow sharing and streaming between devices such as their handhelds, but can't get content onboard easily. (Which is why I have a separate PVR box to copy content over to the PS3, which is a bit of a pain.)

It looks like SkyPlayer (1)

briggsl (1475399) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136265)

From what I can tell from the screenshots, it looks like it utilizes SkyPlayer [sky.com], which is available in the UK for £10 per month, and you get Sky One, Sky Sports and a few other flagshiip sky channels (32 in total) If you already have a Sky subscription, it is free to use.

Hopes and dreams (0, Troll)

FluffyWithTeeth (890188) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136393)

I just hope there'll be some way to get setanta sports on this.

How can man live without old Celtic matches and the few bits of GAA they show?

Such badly flawed news. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28136527)

Firstly, it's no additional cost to those already paying SKY and XBOX subscriptions. Everyone else needs to buy both subscriptions (not cheap).

Secondly, this is no different to the deal that Sony have had in place for the PSP and PS3 for several years. (and with PSN being free, only a Sky Subscrption is required).

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/04/24/go_view_sony_sky_psp/

UK and Ireland first? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28136791)

Wow, something is actually coming to Europe before the US? *Admires the winged swine passing by the window*

Seriously though, I find it extremely amusing that every USian commenting on this thread is up in arms about that. If you had any idea how many cool services don't make it past your borders because of stupid licensing agreements... Hulu, Pandora, Rhapsody, Amazon MP3 (some of them did make it to the UK, but not Ireland or the rest of Europe)

waiting for falling shoes to impact earth. (2, Insightful)

senorpoco (1396603) | more than 4 years ago | (#28136839)

Neither Sky not Microsoft have ever given away for free what they could charge people for.

based on Microsoft Mediaroom middleware? (2, Insightful)

Mulder3 (867389) | more than 4 years ago | (#28137765)

I am pretty sure this will be based on that stupid Microsoft iptv middleware named Microsoft Mediaroom(formerly known as Microsoft TV IPTV edition) witch is already ported to Xbox360. Mediaroom is full of DRM, not based on OpenIPTV Forum standards, doesn't scale well(while it is based on multicast, it uses unicast heavily) and is a real PITA for developers( you have three choices to develop apps on the platform: XHTML/JS/CSS running on Tasman rendering engine, with was the renderer used in IE for Mac witch is real slow and very limited, you can also use a stupid XML declarative language(called Mediaroom Presentation Foundation) and RDP on a remote terminal server (yes, remote desktop)! With better choices in middlewares, i just don't know how operators keep choosing this piece of crap middleware

How about a US release for AT&T UVerse? (1)

assassinator42 (844848) | more than 4 years ago | (#28139171)

They've been promising IPTV support for a while, I'm surprised they actually implemented it somewhere. Now how about releasing for everyone cursed to use Microsoft's IPTV software?
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