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The Sims 3 Racks Up Over 180,000 Downloads Prior To Release

Soulskill posted more than 5 years ago | from the big-spenders dept.

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Bloomberg reports that pirated versions of EA's The Sims 3 were downloaded over 180,000 times between May 18 and May 21. The game will not be officially released until June 2nd, and it does not make use of SecuROM for DRM. Quoting: "That outpaces the 400,000 downloads over three weeks for Electronic Arts' Spore, the most-pirated game of 2008. ... Copies of the game available on file-sharing Web sites aren't the full version, Electronic Arts said. 'The pirated version is a buggy, pre-final build of the game,' Holly Rockwood, a company spokeswoman, said in an e-mailed statement. 'It's not the full game. Half the world — an entire city — is missing from the pirated copy.'"

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What? (1)

clint999 (1277046) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137207)

Am I the only one that is completely confused?

Re:What? (4, Insightful)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137255)

So guys, you kept saying everyone pirates because of DRM. Well, this doesnt have one now. What excuse should we use now?

Re:What? (5, Insightful)

FileNotFound (85933) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137337)

Ok. Let me try this excuse:

"I pirated it because I couldn't buy it anywhere."

There. Done. I'm sure a number of people who pirated will end up buying a real copy once it's released so they can get the online content. But right now if you're itching to play the sims 3 or just see what it's like, you have no other options but to wait or pirate. Most people are quite impatient to say the least.

Re:What? (4, Insightful)

wjousts (1529427) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137407)

"I pirated it because I couldn't buy it anywhere."

Boohoo, god forbid that anybody have to wait a few days for something any more. Seriously, unless you are terminally ill and will likely to die before the official street date, why can't you wait. Don't you have anything better to do?

Re:What? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28137423)

To put it succintly, no.

Re:What? (1, Flamebait)

FileNotFound (85933) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137521)

Why wait? What's my incentive here? Oh right - I'd be doing something moraly right. No sorry. Not good enough.

People will always pick the easiest option. Excersising self control for 2 weeks isn't the easiest thing for most people.

If they could pay $50 and do a legitimate download I'm sure that at least 10% of the downloaders would have picked a legitimate copy.

I'm sure 90% would still have pirated it. But that's people who had no interest in buying the game in the first place but may want to mess around with it for a bit - they're not lost sales.

Re:What? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28137889)

Why wait? What's my incentive here? Oh right - I'd be doing something moraly right. No sorry. Not good enough.

People will always pick the easiest option. Excersising self control for 2 weeks isn't the easiest thing for most people.

If they could pay $50 and do a legitimate download I'm sure that at least 10% of the downloaders would have picked a legitimate copy.

I used the same logic to justify having sex with your wife. What's my incentive not to? It would be wrong? No sorry. Not good enough. Exercising self-control for 2 weeks isn't the easiest thing for me. If I can pay her $50 and do a legitimate download, maybe I'd have done that.

Simple Economics (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28138155)

As opposed to screwing YOUR wife, because that whore has an inflated opinion of how much she's worth. Of course everyone's going to go for the more reasonably priced alternative.

Yeah, EA Store, Digital Download, $49.99 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28138321)

Thanks, fuck off.
That game comes out on Tuesday for Fucks Sake.

Re:What? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28137547)

We are talking about people who can't wait to consume an entertainment product. I agree with your example, that if someone is terminally ill and won't live to see the release, then I think that it's morally justifiable for them to infringe a copy. It would be on the same moral level as someone who is starving and on the edge of death stealing an apple. It isn't "right", but it's "o.k".

I cannot understand how you could have been marked as flamebait. I would think that such a geeky contingency here would comprehend the efforts required to make money on the geeky things we love (whether it's producing board game figureens, hacking together code to make software, compiling a version of the bible written in klingon for sale, etc...)

It was one thing when people infringed copies of Spore due to it's attack on fair use. This, however, is simply a function of peoples' inability to wait.

Re:What? (3, Funny)

Narpak (961733) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138049)

Don't you have anything better to do?

You do realize that we are talking about The Sims players here.

Re:What? (1)

archammer2 (1041754) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138125)

Well, was there anything resembling a demo anywhere? The only reason I'd have for downloading a DRM-free game is to make sure it doesn't suck before I drop $50+ on it.

Re:What? (1)

wjousts (1529427) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138217)

Since it hasn't been released yet, why would there be a demo?

Re:What? (1)

Volante3192 (953645) | more than 5 years ago | (#28139237)

Wait, demos are now released after the retail copy of the game?

Re:What? (1)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138579)

why can't you wait. Don't you have anything better to do?

You're seriously asking if people who want to "play" Little Computer People: 2009 [wikipedia.org] have nothing better to do?

Re:What? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28138669)

They could have simply chosen to first sell it online through Steam or through their own online store (at least from the day it was first pirated), and THEN send it to DVD duplication factories, where most piracy happens.

I'm sure they would have had tons or pre-orders if they said on the day the game was pirated the following on their site: "Get the retail version for 10-15$ less if you pre-order it today"

Re:What? (0, Offtopic)

Icegryphon (715550) | more than 5 years ago | (#28139145)

I could buy some of the anime I watch but then I would half to:
1. Pay insane import prices. 80 Bucks for 1 disc is way to much(see Kara No Kyoukai).
2. Have to Crack regional encoding so only playing it on my Computer, Blah
3. Not have the English sub titles.
Fansubs FTW. Screw Odex and BayTSP.

Re:What? (5, Funny)

PhilJC (928205) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137357)

I'm downloading it so that EA feel compelled to put the DRM back in for the expansion packs. I will then start a campaign to boycott DRM laden games which will be so popular that no one will buy any of the $ims 3 expansion packs thereby killing the franchise once and for all.

Re:What? (5, Insightful)

wjousts (1529427) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137433)

Sadly, the only thing that will ever kill the Sims is somebody making a better Sims-type game. That or putting them in a swimming pool and removing the ladders.

Re:What? (2, Interesting)

Lapine (180452) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138255)

I read in a review they can now get out of swimming pools without ladders. You'll need a room with no windows or doors.

Re:What? (1)

wjousts (1529427) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138509)

I read that too actually. It was in PC Gamers review. Damn EA for removing my choices for torturing my sims!

Re:What? (2, Funny)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138777)

I read in a review they can now get out of swimming pools without ladders.

That should be based on your Sims' BMI.

Re:What? (1)

Rockoon (1252108) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137387)

Who said that?

Re:What? (1)

GerardAtJob (1245980) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137571)

They're all trying the game... if it's good and it's missing an entire city, at least 50% will go buy it :)
Don't forget it's free publicity... but you'll never make EVERYONE buy it... simply because not everyone have money to spend on a PC game. If they don't buy now, they'll buy in the future! Just see it as "free publicity" for this franchise.
(I played SpaceQuest series when I was younger (pirate version... I was poor at the time...) and guess what? I own it now!)
(Another example : World of Goo was highly pirated... and check this : http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/01/26/world-of-goo-makes-appearance-on-npds-top-10-pc-games-list/ [bigdownload.com] In the top10 US sales... because it's a GOOD game).

Re:What? (1)

TinBromide (921574) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138297)

but you'll never make EVERYONE buy it... simply because not everyone have money to spend on a PC game.

I have the money, I just wouldn't want to spend it on the sims. I have the time and bandwidth to pirate the sims, but I'm not gonna do that either.

Re:What? (2, Interesting)

Mad Merlin (837387) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137719)

The article says it does not use SecureROM for DRM, not that it doesn't use DRM. Anyone know what it does use for DRM?

Re:What? (2, Informative)

socsoc (1116769) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137965)

The post has disappeared from EA's site, but

The game will have disc-based copy protection - there is a Serial Code just like The Sims 2. To play the game there will not be any online authentication needed.

Google's cache [74.125.155.132]

Re:What? (1)

Spad (470073) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137835)

No, I "pirate" games that I've bought because of DRM - most notably Bioshock and Mass Effect because of their asinine restrictions on running things like Process Explorer while playing - though to be fair, even the cracked version of Bioshock wouldn't run if Process Explorer had been used since the last reboot.

Re:What? (1)

Krneki (1192201) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138059)

The security model employed for offline gaming has nothing to do with pirated games downloaded.

It all depends on marketing, if you are good at it, a lot of people will buy & download it free from the net. DRM affects only buying customers and does nothing for the illegal market, this is why we hate DRM.

I don't understand why is so difficulty to understand the fact that you can never stop illegal offline use of your software.

True test: how many DLs are converted to sale$? (1)

davidwr (791652) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138165)

How many people who downloaded the leaked version will go out and buy the real thing?

Compare to DRM-crippled software, where there is a strong dis-incentive to take the thing out of the shrink wrap if you did buy it.

Re:What? (1)

TinBromide (921574) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138281)

Here's my excuse: EA is pirating their own game as an excuse to get DRM back in the game.

Who leaked it? (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138547)

Can you imagine the level of security in such potentially billion dollar project?

If I was EA investigating it, I would check who would benefit from such leakage. They may come up with very interesting results.

I can tell as a person who had to carry betacam originals of some ordinary TV shows in a steel case, with guards hired to help and put them in bank safe myself, a hit like The Sims 3 won't leak that easy.

Re:What? (3, Insightful)

GMFTatsujin (239569) | more than 5 years ago | (#28139357)

This episode shows that pirates get to the game before your average consumer can touch it, meaning that there's a break in the production pipeline inside EA.

Their problem is their employees, contractors and distributors, not their customers.

Put another way: EA's biggest problem is EA. And all the DRM in the world (or none of it, for that matter) can change that.

Ill just wait then (5, Funny)

Firkragg14 (992271) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137229)

Ill just wait and pirate the full copy when it comes out then. Thanks for the heads up EA i wouldnt wanna pirate a substandard version.

Re:Ill just wait then (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28138335)

Bloomberg reports that pirated versions of EA's The Sims 3 were downloaded over 180,000 times between May 18 and May 21.

Wow! I didn't even know you could download pirated games from Bloomberg!

Re:Ill just wait then (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28139201)

Then my revolutiontt ratio will be even higher!

andnothingofvaluewasgained (0, Troll)

RiotingPacifist (1228016) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137237)

Nice move not using DRM, its a shame its still the most retarded "game" i can think of.

But hey not everybody can be cool like me and get 9000 head shots on Counterstrike.

Re:andnothingofvaluewasgained (1)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137313)

Nice move not using DRM, its a shame its still the most retarded "game" i can think of.

However I think the market for game actually lowers the piratism rate for The Sims. There will be lots of younger and older girls wanting to play this game aswell, and most of them (or their parents) will probably buy this game. Atleast way more than with other games. Now I must note that I'm waiting for this game too, so I wouldn't count it as girls-only game either. But the market is bigger with this title.

Now what makes me sad is that pirates will keep pushing statistics and sales down for usual games they like to play, and EA will just see that The Sims franchise sells so much better than the other games. Now here's a homework for you: Figure out if that will affect what kind of games they like to make.

Re:andnothingofvaluewasgained (1)

sznupi (719324) | more than 5 years ago | (#28139217)

I raise your 9000 with over 9000.

It just goes to show... (2)

BumbaCLot (472046) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137279)

People who pirate games on the average will never buy the real game, unless there is strong incentive to play online / multiplayer on an authenticated server.
I don't think I ever bought a PC game that I didn't HAVE to have a valid code for online play back when I was into Warez other than the Civ series which I expected to be great. Civ 4 was the last game I bought and gave it to a friend after loading the largest world with most opponents and it crashed at over 1GB of used memory 10 hours into it.

Re:It just goes to show... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28137301)

Civ4 autosaves every few turns you know. Coulda just loaded one of those!

Re:It just goes to show... (0, Offtopic)

BumbaCLot (472046) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137391)

My main issue was having a machine with 512MB of RAM and a game chewing up 1GB.
I played Civ2 on a Packard Bell 133Mhz with 16MB of RAM and sure my turns took up to 10 minutes sometimes but the game would never freeze completely due to memory leaks / system requirements.

Re:It just goes to show... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28137443)

Wait, so you mean version 4 has higher system requirements than version 2? Oh the horror!

There were memory leak issues early on with Civ4, but they got fixed up pretty well with patches.

Re:It just goes to show... (1)

BumbaCLot (472046) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137537)

Waiting for patches to get fixed is a major turn off for me these days. When I was a college student and pirating tons of games sure I could wait for a legitimate game to get fixed if I knew I would be playing it for years. Now as a working adult I give a game a first impression and then I'm done with it.

Good thing the 360 / PS3 allow high resolution gaming that you don't have to worry about getting stuff that won't play out of the box..

Re:It just goes to show... (4, Interesting)

FileNotFound (85933) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137601)

Speak for yourself.

My steam account has about $1,000 worth of games and yet most are not online games that I could have pirated.

Thing is, it's easier for me to get them on steam than it is to pirate them. I don't want to deal with cracks, patches, recracks, etc. Paying the $30-40 for a game on steam is worth it just for the fact that I can download it again in a few months or years when I get the itch to play it again.

The problem with your logic and that of most publishes is that you are trying to prevent a pirated copy from working. This is silly. What they should be trying to do is give incentives to buy a legitimate copy. A few free downloadable content packs that would require online registration is all that's needed to make a number of customers out of pirates. It works for Stardock.

Re:It just goes to show... (5, Informative)

sopssa (1498795) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137781)

A few free downloadable content packs that would require online registration is all that's needed to make a number of customers out of pirates. It works for Stardock.

Actually, EA is doing exactly this with The Sims 3. When you register your game as legitly bought you get 1000 free points to download more stuff from their item store. So you get the free downloadable content there aswell.

Re:It just goes to show... (1)

AkaKaryuu (1062882) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138143)

As someone who purchased every expansion for the first version, the notion that EA is now charging for "Extra Items" infuriates me to no end. They used to give some items for free, on a regular basis. EA didnt have what you wanted? No problem, there were plenty of third party sites to offer you the goods.

Fuck EA. I'm done giving them my money.

Re:It just goes to show... (3, Interesting)

TheThiefMaster (992038) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138019)

I just found and bought a new copy of the original "Diablo" (originally from 1996). The fact that the game is really easy to pirate and doesn't even need a cd key hasn't stopped me.

What shocked me is that it is a Windows 9x/NT game that works perfectly on modern 64-bit Windows. I don't even need to set 9x compat mode.

Re:It just goes to show... (3, Interesting)

BumbaCLot (472046) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138421)

Sorry if you misread what I wrote, or if it came out wrong. I am not saying people don't buy games, I am saying that people will pirate games no matter what.
There are those who pirate / steal, and those who don't. Some of those who pirate / steal act like they would typically buy things but then have some excuse on why they didn't this time etc..

Imagine a poor person who downloads 10 CDs a week, 10 games a month, 10 movies a month etc.. and acts as if they would buy all of the above if they were rich. This is typically bullshit. People steal and steal a LOT! They steal at least one thing per day if not 100s.

I've yet to meet a pirate who is moderate or only does it once or twice.

Re:It just goes to show... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28138939)

Paying the $30-40 for a game on steam is worth it just for the fact that I can download it again in a few months or years when I get the itch to play it again.

Until they ban your account for some arbitrary reason and steal all your games from you.

Re:It just goes to show... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28139063)

Paying the $30-40 for a game on steam is worth it just for the fact that I can download it again in a few months or years when I get the itch to play it again.

Assuming Steam still exists in a few years.

Burn the warez to DVD, store one DVD on the gaming bookshelf, and the other DVD in a filing cabinet in your parents' basement. House burns down 10 years from now? You'll be staying at Mom's for a few weeks anyways.

Finally game for /. crowd... (3, Funny)

should_be_linear (779431) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137283)

... pretending you have a life.

Can I wear Hats (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28137289)

and if so HOW many can i wear?

Slashdot must tackle the big questions.

For fuck's sake, people! (0, Flamebait)

teh.f4ll3n (1351611) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137293)

Sims? As someone with NO download limit I would still feel it a huge waste to download this (master)piece of crap. I mean come on! Wake up people! You're being turned into minless zombie sheep! Wouldn't play it even if they paid me for it...

Re:For fuck's sake, people! (1)

Mantrid (250133) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138225)

Wow you are like so rebellious and really stand out from the minless zombie sheep! I applaud your individuality! Thank you for saving us from the scourg

Re:For fuck's sake, people! (1)

Steauengeglase (512315) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138301)

I'm guessing you have never had a girlfriend/wife/lesbian lover, they eat it up. Mine can waste hundreds of hours and dollars on anything Sims. The office bookcase is literally filled with expansion pack boxes (they make "bonus gift" every birthday and Christmas).

I'm guessing this game is not going to show up on Steam. Pitty, I already have an account setup for her pop-top stuff, would have been nice to have had it in a single place (other than that shelf).

Holly Rockwood (1)

Andy Smith (55346) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137319)

"Holly Rockwood" -- awesome name.

Re:Holly Rockwood (1)

BrunoBigfoot (996441) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137951)

Sounds like a celebrity on the Flintstones.

Re:Holly Rockwood (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28138711)

Or a porn star ...

Let's be honest... (2, Insightful)

oneirophrenos (1500619) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137419)

The game's target audience (twelve-year-old girls) probably wouldn't even know how to pirate it, they'll just ask their daddies to get it from the mall. Those who have now downloaded it are probably the bunch who download anything new on TPB as soon as it appears and never pay for anything anyway.

Re:Let's be honest... (1)

cb95amc (99589) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137473)

Based on how many copies of the previous "Sims" games have been sold I'm not sure the target audience is restricted to twelve year olds.....

I know....I don't understand its popularity either....

Re:Let's be honest... (2, Insightful)

RattFink (93631) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137587)

I know....I don't understand its popularity either....

It's popular with women (of all ages). To understand it's popularity you would have to under stand women, and quite frankly trying to understand women is all but impossible. I think we are doomed to never know.

Re:Let's be honest... (5, Insightful)

FileNotFound (85933) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137667)

It's an RPG without the geekyness.

There. Get it now?

You make a sim, you lvl up your skills, you progress in your job, you get quests, you group with others. In the end you die and make a new character. Repeat.

It's an RPG. You do understand why people like RPGs right?

A lot of people claim that sims is a "time managment" game. That's simply not true, managing your time is just the backdrop for the main goal of character advancment.

Oh and guess what, Sims 3 is an amazing RPG in that it's completley open ended. You make your own story, do your own thing. You can play the entire game without ever getting a job, looting other peoples trash for money and sleeping in their homes. Or you can play a typical recluse and never leave the house, chat online for all social interaction and hack for money.

If you don't see what the appeal is of a game that lets you do whatever you want, I'm not sure I can help you.

Re:Let's be honest... (1)

xtracto (837672) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137755)

You make a sim, you lvl up your skills, you progress in your job, you get quests, you group with others. In the end you die and make a new character. Repeat.

It's an RPG. You do understand why people like RPGs right?

Not only that but, other RPGs are made for geeks (dungeons? orks? dragons? spaceships? magic swords?, spells? 100% geeks). Therefore, The Sims is an RPG which non-geeks are not ashame of playing and sharing their experience about... and one that girls also enjoy playing.

Re:Let's be honest... (1)

oneirophrenos (1500619) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138227)

If you don't see what the appeal is of a game that lets you do whatever you want, I'm not sure I can help you.

Can you kill your family? Can you fuck your dog? Can you construct an atomic bomb and detonate it?

Seriously, I'm asking out of ignorance. If I can do any one of those things, I'll preorder the damn thing right now.

Re:Let's be honest... (1)

cgenman (325138) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138485)

If I can do any one of those things, I'll preorder the damn thing right now.

You can kill your family. Lead them into the bathroom. Remove door and toilet. Wait.

Re:Let's be honest... (2, Informative)

ultranova (717540) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138499)

Can you kill your family?

In previous Sims you could, but had to be roundabout about it: for example, set the kitchen on fire so they'll burn, don't buy any food and let them starve, keep them from sleeping and then have them take a swim so they'll fall asleep in the pool. Or just sell the pool ladders while they're there >:). In Sims 2, you could also keep them from getting into their coffin if they're vampires, so they'll die from sunburn. Or the ever-popular trick of selling the only door of the room they're in, thus imprisoning them inside and letting them starve.

But no, you can't blow their brains out :(. This is a family-oriented game of wholesome entertainment, after all. So any teenager Sim who wants the orphan scholarship for university needs to be clever about killing their parents.

Can you fuck your dog?

Sadly, no. Sims 2 had the "romance" life goal of fucking as many people as possible for aspiration points, thought. That was pretty ballsy of EA, now that I think of it, especially since all Sims are bisexual. It wouldn't be that big of a stretch to go from nymphomania to zoophilia.

Can you construct an atomic bomb and detonate it?

No, the engine couldn't handle it. But Sims set in the world of Fallout would be really, really cool :). So would a fantasy world, too.

Re:Let's be honest... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28138527)

When I'm angry at my fiance i make a special family just to see how many inventive ways I can kill them off :)

Re:Let's be honest... (4, Funny)

discord5 (798235) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138911)

If you don't see what the appeal is of a game that lets you do whatever you want, I'm not sure I can help you.

Can you kill your family? Can you fuck your dog? Can you construct an atomic bomb and detonate it?

Not really. but the sims 2 did allow for a lot entertaining sadism [somethingawful.com] . In all honesty, comparing it to an RPG is going a bit too far. I like to think of it as a micro-management less-god-game, where you don't really have a lot of freedom (because you're stuck with the "dialogue" options/careers/whatnot the programmers made for you), but it has a lot of a meta-game aspect to it.

A woman I once dated for a while really enjoyed the sims 2. She probably had a dozen or so families in her own little town, with meticulously designed houses and carefully balanced schedules heading for that maximum on the career ladder. She was quite the control freak when it came to the game, making sure that most sims stayed the same age as other sims, so she would switch families every time she played for a while. At some point I found myself alone at home with her laptop and the irresistable urge to introduce a little chaos into that perfectly ordered world.

After taking a backup of the savegames I created a character named Eugene Frankensausage, carefully crafted to be a bald bearded fat man wearing worn out jeans and what looked to be a dirty shirt. His house was a concrete square block adorned only by the mailbox in front of it and a single pink flamingo ornament in the yard. In the first few hours he got to know the neighbours, had sex with them which resulted in a fight, asked one of them to move in, then set the house on fire. This unfortunate process repeated itself quite a few times until he finally learned how to cook at which point the game became a lot more dull. By the end of a boring evening the neatly and carefully organized world had a lot of separated families, widowers, and people generally being in distress. There were also 3 people maneuvering through a small labyrinth in the yard with the end point being aforementioned pink flamingo lawn ornament.

Now, waiting for her to discover that Eugene Frankensausage had moved into town and not mentioning you had a backup, that was the fun part.

Mod parent up as funny (1)

Xaedalus (1192463) | more than 5 years ago | (#28139287)

I laughed until I hiccup'ed on this one. You are a dead man sir... but I must imagine the punishment you will receive will be worth it.

Re:Let's be honest... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28139013)

Sure, RPGs are great, but why play a game that mimics real ORDINARY life? I mean, fantasy games are great because they bring you to a totally different world. Flight simulators mimic the real world, but they let you do something that you can't do in real life.
But I really don't understand what you can do in the Sims. What's so great about playing a normal life on a computer?

(To emphasis it, I'm not saying "teh sims sux" in the form of a question. I'm really asking, because I honestly don't get it)

Re:Let's be honest... (4, Funny)

hansamurai (907719) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137783)

My wife likes to make me and her in the game and then make them have like eight children together...

This is my life.

Re:Let's be honest... (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138703)

The Sims should come with coupons for sex aids, travel, family planning, and vasectomy/tubal litigation. Something for everyone!

Re:Let's be honest... (1)

discord5 (798235) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138933)

My wife likes to make me and her in the game and then make them have like eight children together...

RUN!

The Sims is eerie (1)

Benanov (583592) | more than 5 years ago | (#28139355)

I did that once, made myself and my then-fiancee.

Sim-me spent the days wandering around seeking human interaction (mostly from Sim-fiancee) while she was really busy.

Then real fiancee went away to school in the Caribbean and pretty much dropped all contact; I saw her twice in a year and a half.*

I don't play the Sims anymore. It's like a virtual ouija board.

(So I started dating someone else...who is now my wife.)

Re:Let's be honest... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28138137)

The game's target audience (twelve-year-old girls) ....

Unfortunately, that is not the audience that actually plays the game.

Also, what the article fails to mention is that many pirates don't buy games anyway, so it isn't really lost income. It is like the gov't saying it is saving money by cutting funds from an added program in a proposed budget.

The money was never there in the first place.

The Sims is an adult game (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138413)

I don't understand where you come with 12 year old girl argument but The Sims is really an adult game, adult doesn't neccessarily mean porn btw.

I have seen 40-50 and even 60+ years old people play it, in fact for some people it was the first and only game they purchased. People still buy content for the game, even the first release still being played.

Re:Let's be honest... (1)

MancunianMaskMan (701642) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138759)

The game's target audience (twelve-year-old girls) probably wouldn't even know how to pirate it, they'll just ask their daddies to get it from the mall.

My 12-year old daughter gets her daddy to pirate it off Bittorrent (if there is a DS version anyway, and if others have the cartridge and she wants it too)

Re:Let's be honest... (1)

ae1294 (1547521) | more than 5 years ago | (#28139277)

The game's target audience (twelve-year-old girls) probably wouldn't even know how to pirate it, they'll just ask their daddies to get it from the mall. Those who have now downloaded it are probably the bunch who download anything new on TPB as soon as it appears and never pay for anything anyway.

True... but was this really a leak or a clever marketing tool.

1. Release buggy version, we'll call it shareware (crashes after you get addicted enough)
2. Release full blown super version with all the DRM in the world to foil those darn hackers
3. Profit...

Propered (4, Informative)

Spad (470073) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137435)

Actually, the original release (referred to in TFS, which was beta code) was propered earlier this week [rlslog.net] - the "current" pirated release is the RTM code.

Re:Propered (1)

TheThiefMaster (992038) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138057)

It does make me wonder where they're getting it from. Surely EA can plug the leak? (aka fire the leak)

Re:Propered (1)

Spad (470073) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138261)

The Beta probably came from a QA tester or maybe review code sent to magazines. The "current" release is almost certainly from a retailer - the game goes on sale Tuesday next week so it'll almost certainly have shipped out to stores late last week or early this week.

Re:Propered (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28138325)

Why would they want to? It was probably done with the permission of the execs.
A 'demo' version gets released and they seem to be aking good use of the publicity.
If the game fails they can blame it on piracy.
They can use this as proof they need more DMCA style legislation.

Re:Propered (1)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138449)

Surely EA can plug the leak? (aka fire the leak)

Once the Gold Master has been shipped to Whang-Dong Fisheries, Automotive and Lowest Bidder Disc Pressing Incorporated, it's out of their hands. The final physical boxed copies ship to and sit around in local distribution centres and storerooms for weeks before the retail release date - there's plenty of opportunity for some minimum wage sleazebag to set that information free.

Re:Propered (1)

TheThiefMaster (992038) | more than 5 years ago | (#28139021)

Well true about the RTM version, but what about the beta?

How can they NOT manage to keep the beta private, or know who distributed it?

Re:Propered (1)

infalliable (1239578) | more than 5 years ago | (#28139071)

Yes, but this isn't an issue of piracy per se. It is an issue of a lack of "security" of the game code prior to release. That is what allows this entire thing to happen. If you secure the code prior to the release date this doesn't happen. And by security, I don't mean DRM type security. I mean physical security of the data preventing it from being leaked.

Problem with versioning (3, Funny)

zolf13 (941799) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137617)

Pirated copy is version 0.5 - it has half of the world. So the full version will be 1.0 - it has the whole world. When EA provides version 1.1 will I get 10% of world extra for free?

Re:Problem with versioning (1)

Ilgaz (86384) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138467)

Having The Sims (1) played for months which was just a small neighbourhood, I don't think "losing half of the World" will matter.

They should come up with "It causes BSOD and disk corruption" argument, that is one thing Windows users fear. Blatant lie? Of course but will pirates sue them for spreading FUD about "their" product? :)

Of course they say its incomplete (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28137747)

The other city wont "ship" with the game either, its a free download from the yet to launch DLC store. The leaked version is final, anything else they say is ass-covering.

This actually hurt EA this time (1)

Aladrin (926209) | more than 5 years ago | (#28137907)

Yeah, I said it. This actually hurt sales of TheSims3 this time. I was going to pre-order it, then heard there was a pirate version before release. One of my friends tried it and she said it was awful. Not enough items, too small, buggy, etc etc. At that point, I decided not only to not pirate it, but not to pre-order it either.

Now, if I don't hear rave reviews about it, I'm not going to buy it. And I'm not going to bother pirating it, either, for that matter.

So it's quite possible they'd lost my sale on the game... Only being extremely good will save it. (Without this, being merely 'good' would have been enough.) I'm sure I'm not alone in this.

Re:This actually hurt EA this time (1)

Hatta (162192) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138093)

This actually hurt sales of TheSims3 this time. I was going to pre-order it, then heard there was a pirate version before release. One of my friends tried it and she said it was awful.

So it hurt EA about as much as a demo version would have. If they had put out a demo, people wouldn't have to pirate to try before they buy. Then the only people who would pirate are those who never would have bought it in the first place, so that can't be considered lost sales.

Releasing a demo version should encourage people to buy the game. If it doesn't, the game must really be pretty bad, and you don't deserve those sales anyway.

Re:This actually hurt EA this time (1)

techiemikey (1126169) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138765)

Releasing a demo version should encourage people to buy the game. If it doesn't, the game must really be pretty bad, and you don't deserve those sales anyway.

If the demo doesn't encourage people to buy the game, then it's a bad demo. The problem is most companies make demos off of their beta versions, and as such loose business for bugs not present in the main game.

Re:This actually hurt EA this time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28138323)

... and all the female sims have the same face.

It is like they got the model renderer from AG3, but without the "fun" stuff.

Re:This actually hurt EA this time (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138727)

It hasn't necessarily cost them anything, except at launch time. They can roll out some patches and pick you up as a customer on the flip side with the "Special Edition". Early adopters always bear the brunt; these days you don't even get anything for free, just the opportunity to pay extra to get a Master Chief helmet or something. Which, let's face it, is only worth it if you can wear it and it will actually protect your head from something, not necessarily to include covenant weaponry (But that would be nice.)

Re:This actually hurt EA this time (3, Insightful)

cliffski (65094) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138893)

so they played a pre-release incomplete version with half the content missing, and bitched that it was no good.

*sigh*...

Re:This actually hurt EA this time (1)

Zerth (26112) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138991)

The real problem is that, while they have added features, they cut out 80% of the features added by expansion packs from the previous version and will rerelease most of those as expansion packs for this version.

People I know who like this series have mostly said they'll just wait for the all-in-one version in a year or two, if at all, as they feel shorted having to buy it all again.

I know better, they said that last time as well:)

Re:This actually hurt EA this time (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28139093)

Now, if I don't hear rave reviews about it, I'm not going to buy it.

It's a Sims game, you're going to hear rave reviews even if it is terrible.

download numbers are not good statistics (1)

sgt scrub (869860) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138099)

I downloaded it and liked it. I'd like to buy a copy next time I'm at fry's but will probably download the full version when they have it up. It kind of made me miss the good days of shareware and demo's. Game makers stopped doing it because people would try out the game and not buy it because it didn't live up to the hype. Or the game just flat out sucked. This games lives up to the hype and I will buy it. For some it might not have lived up to the hype so they will not buy it. So the download numbers are not a good sample to prove that people that downloaded it liked it and should therefore buy it.

Oh shit, someone thought (1)

Random2 (1412773) | more than 5 years ago | (#28138123)

They actually made a good reason to buy the non-pirated game. Kudos to the developers and marketing.

Re:Oh shit, someone thought (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28139133)

Ill just wait and pirate the full copy when it comes out then. Thanks for the heads up EA i wouldnt wanna pirate a substandard version.

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