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China's First Mars Probe Ready To Launch

timothy posted more than 5 years ago | from the kazakhstan-facility-of-space-object-tossing-very-nice dept.

Mars 67

henrypijames writes "At the Shanghai Aerospace Exhibition last week, China's first Mars probe Yinghuo-1 was the main attraction. The newly completed probe will soon be sent to Moscow for some further testing, before a joint launch with Russia's own probe Phobos-Grunt from Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan this October."

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How delicious... (5, Funny)

PatrickThomson (712694) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237203)

The story is showing in red on the main page - perhaps reflecting the fear of a red mars in all of us. Oh, wait...

Re:How delicious... (1)

Ethanol-fueled (1125189) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237241)

It's only the first star-shaped probe of five to be strategically crashed [33ff.com] into Mars' surface!

Re:How delicious... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28237425)

China's First Anal Probe Ready to Chinkniggercoonspicjigabooporchmonkey

Re:How delicious... (2, Funny)

moon3 (1530265) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237511)

They should have sent a manned mission. I heard the suicidal rate in Russia and China is one of the highest anyway..

Re:How delicious... (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28238515)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

Sounds fine to me (4, Funny)

Bearhouse (1034238) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237245)

China's first Mars probe Yinghuo-1 was the main attraction. The newly completed probe will soon be sent to Moscow for some further testing, before a joint launch with Russia's own probe Phobos-Grunt

A probe to Mars, made by China, tested and then launched by the Russians with their effort called 'Grunt'.
What could possibily go wrong?

Re:Sounds fine to me (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28237301)

Our two glorious socialist motherlands will teach you yankees yet. Mars is the red planet and naturally belongs to us.

Re:Sounds fine to me (5, Informative)

ethogram (1094021) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237433)

I believe Grunt is Russian for Ground and will be a sample return mission from Phobos. The Planetary Society is flying something as well: a long term biological exposure project called Life. I think the idea is to see whether cells can survive long term exposure to the radiation environment of interplanetary space (as opposed to low earth orbit).

Re:Sounds fine to me (2, Funny)

CrazyJim1 (809850) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237445)

I sense DOOM.

Re:Sounds fine to me (4, Insightful)

SerpentMage (13390) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237477)

I have no idea why this is modded as funny. I am not Russian, nor Chinese, but Western (grew up in Europe, Canada, and the States). And jokes like these is what made us inferior. Remember those jokes in the 1970's regarding Japanese cars! What could wrong! HA! We know what went wrong...

I am not saying let's be confrontational. I am saying don't laugh since the last laugh might be on us!

Re:Sounds fine to me (1)

Clay Pigeon -TPF-VS- (624050) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237521)

"jokes like these is what made us inferior." [Citation needed]

Way to be a killjoy.

Re:Sounds fine to me (2, Insightful)

icebike (68054) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237697)

And of course, there are no "jokes like these" in China or Russia. Why? Because they are not "inferior".

The fact that the GP feels obligated to define himself as "Western" suggests to me that he is, in fact, NOT.

Re:Sounds fine to me (3, Insightful)

SerpentMage (13390) | more than 5 years ago | (#28240605)

Excuse me? You are saying that I am not a Westerner?

Give me a freaken break! Want to see my passports? Want to see where I have lived? (Canada, US, Germany, Switzerland, France, UK, and Austria)! I am a Westerner!

Want to know why I am pissed about the joke and your attitude? Because my brother who is a born Canadian is living in Russia! My sister who is a German Canadian is living in Ecuador! And they live pretty good lives...

The jokes are actually an insult because they have a better functioning cellular network than most places in North America!

Here is a joke on the Westerners! My brother bought his iPhone legally in Kazakstan and he complains about the lack of reception in the US, and Canada. He tells me he can be in butt-ass Kazakstan and still surf. YET be about 100KM from any civilization in North America and nothing works!

This is why people better smarten up because he is laughing at how bad things are in North America!

Re:Sounds fine to me (1)

bronney (638318) | more than 5 years ago | (#28246949)

ok Borat you win.

Re:Sounds fine to me (2, Funny)

JordanL (886154) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237879)

That's awfully unique grammatical syntax for someone who grew up in the States.

Re:Sounds fine to me (1)

im_thatoneguy (819432) | more than 5 years ago | (#28238057)

Helo sir! I see your post and hope u comprehend that I gro up in NY and agree with OP. Stop hating on my felo nu yorkers. China Rules!

Re:Sounds fine to me (1)

SerpentMage (13390) | more than 5 years ago | (#28240569)

Are you saying that I didn't?

Could it maybe be I was born in Germany, lived in Ontario, North Carolina (Salisbury), New York (Middletown), Quebec, UK, France, Switzerland, Germany, and Austria, and that I speak multiple languages?

If you want to say that I am not a Western then you have been reading one too many conspiracy theories!!!

Re:Sounds fine to me (1)

JordanL (886154) | more than 5 years ago | (#28249563)

No, I was just trying to collect some +1 Funny karma. ;)

All that aside, pretending the Chinese could NEVER produce a quality product is silly. Pretending they can do it now is equally silly.

Quality is EXPENSIVE, and the Chinese are not building wealth in their country very effectively... you need that to improve some of the finer points on a large scale.

Re:Sounds fine to me (2, Funny)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 5 years ago | (#28239303)

Did you drive a Japanese car in 1970? They were crap, and rightly ridiculed. They became popular for 2 reasons: the oil embargo and the beginning of the end for American carmakers (finally finished last week). When the workers are pushing defective products out the door to show their contempt for the company, the competition's cars are going to look good.

In addition, because something happened to Japan doesn't mean the same will happen to China. Making assumptions like this is the worst sort of racism ("all those people are the same").

Re:Sounds fine to me (3, Interesting)

SerpentMage (13390) | more than 5 years ago | (#28240633)

Excuse me? Racism? What political correctness argument are you trying to construct?

The Japanese car makers blew the doors off the American car makers because they laughed at the Japanese. But the Japanese kept at it and produced an excellent product.

Want to know what the real joke here is? The quality assurance techniques used by the Japanese was developed by an American! Deeming in fact. He showed that you could build quality at a low cost. YET nobody in America used it. They mocked it. American's just kept on laughing on the "garbage" that came out of Japan.

Then one day Japan overran the Americans! I know about this because I worked in the automotive industry. And when the automotive industry did catch on it was too late. And I remember how the jokes like the one that was made about the Chinese space ship were made.

BTW in the past little while it has been the Russians that have been doing the work to the ISS! Not the Americans... Why? Because the space shuttle is having problems. Yet the Russia system keeps on ticking!!!

We should be kicking ourselves in the arse for looking like idiots!

Re:Sounds fine to me (1)

DNS-and-BIND (461968) | more than 5 years ago | (#28246987)

So...China is set to follow the path of Japan. Because all those yellow people look alike, eh? This is like saying that Botswana will follow the path of Ukraine, they have nothing in common and Asian appearance is the only thing they have in common. Hence, the racism that everyone seems to have no problem with.

Re:Sounds fine to me (1)

noidentity (188756) | more than 5 years ago | (#28240055)

I have no idea why this is modded as funny. I am not Russian, nor Chinese, but Western (grew up in Europe, Canada, and the States). And jokes like these is what made us inferior. Remember those jokes in the 1970's regarding Japanese cars! What could wrong! HA! We know what went wrong...

Oh come on, I don't think people actually believe this now; it's just joking around using caricatures. Most people know that USA-made goods are just as crappy as other ones (perhaps moreso), and that most of it is made in China anyway, good and bad.

Re:Sounds fine to me (2, Funny)

SerpentMage (13390) | more than 5 years ago | (#28240673)

While I would like to agree with you. Read what the other posters have wrote. And while many will think USA made goods are crappy, the stuff from other countries is crappier.

Call me sensitive, but I was part of the car industry during the times when North American's laughed at the Japanese cars. I never laughed, and neither did my father (he was a German VP in Magna during those days) If you really want to get an eye opener of how times were rent Gungho

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091159/ [imdb.com]

These days it is very quaint, but it was a reflection of those times. And I just see those things repeating AGAIN...

Re:Sounds fine to me (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28237667)

When is an AFRICAN country going to send a probe to Mars?
How about send a probe to the Moon?
How about put a satellite in space?
Build an aeroplane?
Build a car?
A bicycle?

Oh, wait...

China's First Mars Probe Ready To Launch (5, Insightful)

TheCreeep (794716) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237303)

If it's going to Moskow for testing, it's not fucking ready to launch now is it?

Slashdot editors: Read the damn summary at least!

Re:China's First Mars Probe Ready To Launch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28237443)

zomg

Re:China's First Mars Probe Ready To Launch (3, Insightful)

garcia (6573) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237575)

You are looking at this all wrong and you have to look at it from their POV. Since the recent "updates" to Slashcode are ready for launch even though everything is fucked up, by that logic, so is the Chinese probe.

Re:China's First Mars Probe Ready To Launch (3, Insightful)

Nyeerrmm (940927) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237665)

I'd guess (having no real experience with international space missions) that as far as the Chinese government is concerned it's ready, but the Russians probably want to check it themselves before launch since its riding with their own probe. Hate to have it fall apart at Max Q and destroy everything on board.

Assuming the Chinese agency developing the probe was competent and the Russian group has no axe to grind, then it probably is really ready, in the same way a manuscript is "done" before a final proofreading.

But, again, I have no actual experience with this kind of thing, thats just my instinct.

Re:China's First Mars Probe Ready To Launch (4, Insightful)

tftp (111690) | more than 5 years ago | (#28238581)

the Russians probably want to check it themselves before launch since its riding with their own probe. Hate to have it fall apart at Max Q and destroy everything on board.

The probe will be integrated with the rest of the payload in Moscow, and then tested again. And then shipped to the launch site. And then tested again. Then it will be installed onto the rocket and tested again. Tests will only stop for a while when the rocket lifts off. Nobody in rocket business is insane enough to say "Well, they tested it in China 6 months ago, so we just assume that the batteries are good and all cables are hooked up right, and nobody damaged anything, so just launch as it is!"

Re:China's First Mars Probe Ready To Launch (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28238591)

But, again, I have no actual experience with this kind of thing, thats just my instinct.

If they do things the way we do things, then the Chinese team is very proud of themselves for completing assembly, and happy to ship their baby to the Russians for testing and integration. The Chinese team probably knows that it's only a matter of time before they have to send some people to Moscow to deal with the issues that will crop up, but for now they're feeling good.

I congratulate them on shipping hardware, and I wish them the best of luck. Mars is unforgiving.

Re:China's First Mars Probe Ready To Launch (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | more than 5 years ago | (#28240865)

The Chinese recycled an older public statement draft about a rocket ready to lauch at Moscow, but forgot that this time it was not to be a nuke.

Phobos-Grunt? (3, Funny)

FlyingSquidStudios (1031284) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237439)

In space, no one can hear you grunt.

Re:Phobos-Grunt? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28237931)

No, it's the last sound to be heard from the lander as it rams into Mars, thanks to the radar altimeter reporting altitude in Chinese "paces" (æ¥) and the orbiter software expecting metres.

And so how many Americans lost their jobs? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28237501)

This Asian outsourcing has to end.

I'm sick of this tide of cheap Chinese-made junk which has swept aside the morass of expensive American-made junk, and put deity-worshiping Americans out of work, to boot.

It's time we nuked Asia.

Re:And so how many Americans lost their jobs? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28238423)

Never remind everyone that Americans still worship deities or you'll be modded down as a troll. :D

Apparently North Korea is launching as well (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28237509)

North Korea has also announced a... yeah, a "Mars Probe", and they're going to be launching it as well. It has a small nuclear reactor on board to supply power throughout the long journey, so that will explain any traces of radiation seen during the launch. It, of course, needs to be launched in a Westerly direction over Japan and the US, so this message is to alert those two nations that this is a PEACEFUL PROBE to another planet and there is no need to track it closely.
Thank you
Kim

Meh (1)

VonSkippy (892467) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237531)

Hard to get too excited. We are after all talking about the oh so NOT transparent China. Who knows what, if any of the data will be accurate or even real. The state run PR dept. of China is famous for their Science Fiction.

Should we let them launch? (0, Troll)

Brian Gordon (987471) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237537)

Guys I'm not sure we should let China fire a rocket after all what if it's secretly a weapon? They have no right to fire rockets while we're around!

Re:Should we let them launch? (1)

MichaelSmith (789609) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237583)

Guys I'm not sure we should let China fire a rocket after all what if it's secretly a weapon? They have no right to fire rockets while we're around!

Well its actually the Russians firing the rockets. And the rockets they use are ICBMs. And they have been doing it for decades.

Re:Should we let them launch? (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28237869)

Troll? Obviously North Korea related sarcasm..

So what? (1)

uassholes (1179143) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237615)

Post again after it launches.

It's quite ingenious really. Pure Chinese knowhow (5, Funny)

Garbad Ropedink (1542973) | more than 5 years ago | (#28237631)

I heard about this probe. It's really a marvel of engineering. Looking at it you can see it's the next phase in Chinese innovation. The probe they're sending is designed to go to mars, steal the American probe, then bring it back to China. After reverse engineering the American probe, the Chinese then launch their new probe back to mars.

Re:It's quite ingenious really. Pure Chinese knowh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28242621)

I was thinking the very same thing. I wonder how many "Copyright XYZ Company, 2006" code comments, labels, pc boards etc would be found in one if it were cracked open? Original software bugs and all ;)

Will this one be filmed underwater too? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28237901)

I'm just sayin'...

Native Tech? (1)

vampire_baozi (1270720) | more than 5 years ago | (#28238013)

How much of this probe was Chinese-designed, and how much is from the Russians? The Chinese have made a lot of progress in their own tech, but most is based heavily off old Soviet/Russian technology.

The probe itself also doesn't seem very ambitious- more of a test run, before attempting landers or anything more complicated. Anyone with the knowhow care to educate us on the difference in difficulty of landing a probe on Mars vs. doing atomospheric experiments?

Re:Native Tech? (1)

Eugene (6671) | more than 5 years ago | (#28238301)

getting there is tough enough, if you look back at the history of the Mars exploration...

Mars Observer, Mars Polar Lander, Mars Climate Orbiter, Deep Space 2, Planet-B/Nozomi, and probably a few more I can't remember (Russians failed a few too I remember)

Oh noes! (1)

omarius (52253) | more than 5 years ago | (#28238193)

But... but... then MARS will be RED!

Re:Oh noes! (1)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 5 years ago | (#28253491)

Not to worry, our California governor has extensive experience dealing with political problems on Mars.

Oblig... (1)

nubsac (1329063) | more than 5 years ago | (#28238205)

...in communist China, Mars probe launches you!

Re:Oblig... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28238409)

Communist Mars probes you!

Personally... (0)

piemcfly (1232770) | more than 5 years ago | (#28238351)

I can't wait for the Chinese to start probing Uranus.

Harharhar.

Re:Personally... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28239205)

In Greece, how do you separate the men from the boys?

With a crowbar.

what's the mission? (0)

Mishotaki (957104) | more than 5 years ago | (#28238365)

I bet they would like to take out the "opportunity" to be the only ones working properly on the surface of mars

Word on the street.. (0)

Tengoo (446300) | more than 5 years ago | (#28238447)

..is that it'll fly there sideways.

/so so sorry

fuck (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28238817)

WHEN U R READING THIS DONT STOP OR SOMETHING BAD WILL HAPPEN! MY NAME IS SUMMER I AM 15 YEARS OLD i have BLONDE HAIR ,MANY SCARS no NOSE OR EARS.. I AM DEAD. IF U DONT COPY THIS JUST LIKE FROM THE RING, COPY N POST THIS ON 5 MORE SITES.. OR.. I WILL APPEAR ONE DARK QUIET NIGHT WHEN UR NOT ExPECTING IT BY YOUR BED WITH A KNIFE AND KILL U. THIS IS NO JOKE SOMETHING GOOD WILL HAPPEN TO U IF YOU POST THIS ON 5 MORE

But will they be disturbing... (0)

the phantom (107624) | more than 5 years ago | (#28238959)

...important archaeological sites? I mean, what if they upset Viking? or interfere with either of the two NASA probes that are already up there and working? That would be AWFUL! WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

Fix problems? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28239899)

Hopefully they've taken note of any problems in NASA's.

Yinghuo = "Firefly" (1)

mork (62099) | more than 5 years ago | (#28239905)

According to Wikipedia the name Yinghuo means "firefly".
Does Joss Whedon know?

Re:Yinghuo = "Firefly" (1)

rnws (554280) | more than 5 years ago | (#28240847)

Yeah, I saw that and it made me smile. Especially after a certain space-station module could have been named "Colbert" and NASA wussed out on "Serenity" and went with "Tranquility" (the EIGHTH-placed vote!) instead.

Interesting (1)

arabagast (462679) | more than 5 years ago | (#28240253)

This is actually quite interesting. With China putting a lot of prestige in being "better than the west", they may actually be able to pull of something good with this one (and hopefully, later missions). There is nothing like a bit of competition to get the party started. Their Changâ(TM)e 1 probe was a sucess, so why not this one ? they have at least proved themselves capable of space exploration, and the more space exploration, the better!

If... (2, Funny)

Blankw (1571367) | more than 5 years ago | (#28240529)

...everything else China's produced (product wise) is anything to go by... can we expect this probe to be primarily made of plastic, and not fit for the intended use?

Re:If... (1)

maugle (1369813) | more than 5 years ago | (#28246715)

If not for weight concerns, the probe would probably be made entirely of lead.

Red October? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28240705)

The communist-made probe is launching in October to fly to the red planet. Hail, the great Red October!

I wonder... (1)

Dr_Ken (1163339) | more than 5 years ago | (#28242435)

if the PRC is really interested in Mars or if this is just bread & circuses to distract and amuse their people?

US blew its 2009 launch window (1)

peter303 (12292) | more than 5 years ago | (#28243743)

The US was planning to send its fourth rover to mars- The Mars Science Lander- recently renamed Curiosity- during the once every 26 months Mars launch window (Oct 2009). But Curiosity turned into a bloatware monster, a billion over budget. Its as large and minivan and required new technology like retro-rocket lander and nuclear power energy which went over time and over budget. They've reconfigured it for the 2011 launch window.
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