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Using the iPhone As a Pointing Device For the Real World

CmdrTaco posted more than 5 years ago | from the because-you-can dept.

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Zrop writes "With a combination of GPS, Wi-FI-positioning, compass, and accelerometers, the iPhone is turbocharged for location-based services. Combine this with the new 3.0 iPhone OS and interesting things are certainly going to happen. Steve Jobs said that the iPhone will change the world when he presented it back in 2007, and that is exactly what it will do." The bulk of the article is about using the phone as a super real world pointer, which could be really cool if it could be accurate enough to be useful, although not particularly ergonomic. (Are you pointing the screen at something? The camera? The headphone jack?)

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that's why (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28251509)

And that's why I bought a Saturn.

Re:that's why (0, Offtopic)

geekboy642 (799087) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251697)

Good, you probably got the last one. Stupid GM's stupid bankruptcy. MY FAVORITE (CHEAP) CAR!

Yeah, I know, offtopic. I'll take my beating.

Re:that's why (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28251799)

Roger Penske bought the Saturn name and the dealership network. He will import cars with the Saturn name.

Saturn will outlast Government Motors.

Re:that's why (0, Offtopic)

YourExperiment (1081089) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252021)

Off topic? That's a paddlin'.

Use them for what they are good for (3, Insightful)

Q-Hack! (37846) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251521)

Like all tools, you need to use it for what its calibration is capible of. For instance, like the i-Phone, my Blackberry has a bubble level app. I would never consider using it as a level in bridge construction, but for haning a picture it works just fine.

Re:Use them for what they are good for (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28251883)

What you're referring to is really the age old Physics 101 discussion about accuracy and precision. I used my iPhone several times in the last couple of days to locate golf courses I was supposed to play at, and it was extremely accurate. It will remain accurate when looking for things much smaller than a golf course as well I'm sure, but the precision isn't sufficient to work on a much smaller scale.

Re:Use them for what they are good for (2, Informative)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252797)

My GPS and Phone are accurate to a house. GPS can get you down to a meter or less so now the problem is with the maps.
I would trust a GPS to get me to within a meter of a know reference point.

Of course I wonder if there is any reason except for cost that they couldn't add a high resolution time source to each cell tower and use them for a land based GPS system. It should work in buildings and should be more accurate than a GPS since the transmitters would be fixed and you wouldn't have to deal with the ionosphere.
Of course you would have to have all the carriers agree on a standard and allow everyone to use the signal... So I just don't see it happening.

Re:Use them for what they are good for (1)

MikeURL (890801) | more than 5 years ago | (#28253921)

This is my experience as well. The maps often have errors but the GPS devices will get you to within a few feet of the coordinates. My apt building shows up on maps about 400ft SW of where it actually is. However, if I give people the GPS coordinates they can literally find my bedroom. I tend to do the same thing with other landmarks (the Nuvi 360 makes this really easy).

I sync regularly with my PC to make sure I never lose my database. Maybe someday I can compete with NAVTEQ. But seriously I just don't think there are quite enough people using GPS devices for businesses to get really serious about getting their listing right. Last night I was misdirected to a TJ Maxx even though it has been at the same location for years AND my map is the 2010 version. If I were the manager of that TJ Maxx I'd make it my job to make sure it was correct (actually I just submitted a report for them).

Crosshairs plus Google Earth Data (2, Interesting)

StCredZero (169093) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251915)

Like all tools, you need to use it for what its calibration is capible [sic] of

You could get quite accurate for big landmarks, which would be useful for navigation in cities like New York, Chicago, and Houston. Implement an app like the camera app with realtime video and add crosshairs. The pointing app would use the camera, GPS, the accelerometers, and the compass. You'd know about where you are, and which direction the camera is pointed. You could then send a *highly* compressed photo to an app at Google, which would calculate the outlines of the big landmarks in the area for the orientation of the iPhone for various positions within the GPS circle of error. The app could then pop up formatted data about the landmark.

You could also use Google Streetview data to recognize when the app is pointing at famous storefronts. Heck, why not just build all of this into the Camera app?

An app with those capabilities would be the envy of Real Estate agents. Heck, they might envy it enough to hate it -- it's just a little *too* easy!

FFS, this was done on Android so last year! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28257557)

And this is possible after 2 years and just now? Look at this video here [enkin.net] to see what Android could do it just when it was released - with 1.0.

I don't want to jump onto apple fanboi bashing bandwagon, but for fuck sake - things like this and more are already done on other devices. Just because your jesus fucking phone could not do it earlier does not mean no other device could either.

And for what it's worth, this did not even win the Development contest then. A neat idea though!

Re:Use them for what they are good for (2, Interesting)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251983)

I would think something like the G1 would make a far better pointing device than an iPhone, as it has a compass, and can actually tell what direction it's pointing in.

Re:Use them for what they are good for (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28252329)

google sky map, baby cakes.

Re:Use them for what they are good for (1)

joelsherrill (132624) | more than 5 years ago | (#28253357)

I went geocaching this weekend for the first time with my G1 using GeoBeagle. I also have a Garmin 60csx which is a very nice handheld GPS. The G1's application was slower to update the distance to cache than the Garmin and would jump more than I was used to. The G1 would also lose the satellites when the Garmin wouldn't. But the G1 was very accurate, often showing 2 meters to the cache when we had found it.

Re:Use them for what they are good for (1)

Sporkinum (655143) | more than 5 years ago | (#28254947)

The accuracy inherent in the signals can vary. I drive a route to work with a hill on it. The hill's GPS reported height varies by as much as 10 meters on occasion, though is usually the same within a meter or two.

Re:Use them for what they are good for (1)

Nerdfest (867930) | more than 5 years ago | (#28253937)

Replying to myself (after RTFA), Apple is actually adding the compass hardware to the new iPhones.

Re:Use them for what they are good for (1)

angelina9 (1572619) | more than 5 years ago | (#28261677)

calibration uncertainty of the artefact itself. For instance, in calibration method has several advantages, thanks Angelina Jacob parking sensor [backup-sensor.com]

Or you could (4, Funny)

jayhawk88 (160512) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251557)

Look at where you're going. With your iEyes.

Re:Or you could (4, Funny)

derGoldstein (1494129) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251839)

I couldn't find iEyes in the app store. How much is it?

Re:Or you could (3, Funny)

cleojo42 (573624) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252293)

Approximately one iArm and one iLeg.

Re:Or you could (4, Funny)

gEvil (beta) (945888) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251885)

iEye, Cap'n!

Re:Or you could (1)

selven (1556643) | more than 5 years ago | (#28253577)

Stop making stupid puns on single letter marketing prefixes, gEyes!

Re:Or you could (1)

JustOK (667959) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252497)

Not authorized as iEyes can be used to view porn.

Re:Or you could (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28254191)

I bought an iPod Nano. Now I have iStrain.

Re:Or you could (1)

__NR_kill (1018116) | more than 5 years ago | (#28255761)

Yes, this is funny. But seriously, this kind of stuff is already out there. Jobs is a bit late this time. Take a look, google sky map [android.com] on android is probably the most practical application demonstrating this function.

I can't. I'm blind. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28259373)

Well, blind-ing. Blind-ish.

Whatever. http://byesight.wordpress.com/

This is a godsend for me.

mo3 up (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28251593)

goal here? how can

already do this... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28251617)

I already use iphones as pointing devices:
when I see someone with an iphone, I know to point at them and laugh

Re:already do this... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28251961)

You're a sad, sad man-thing.

Re:already do this... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28252271)

The iPhone is a highly useful device when playing pin-the-tail-on-the-douchebag.

Just look for somebody using an iPhone, and you've located a douchebag

Re:already do this... (0)

johnlcallaway (165670) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252463)

The iPhone has changed the world .. it's even more obvious who is willing to waste their money!

Cool stuff... (4, Informative)

pushing-robot (1037830) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251637)

...but this isn't exactly new, even [technologyreview.com] on [intomobile.com] phones. [intomobile.com]

Have Successfully Located: +1, PatRIOTic (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28251657)

President-VICE Richard B. Cheney's spider-hole is located here [youtube.com]

Yours In Peace,
Kilgore Trout

Missing Component... (1)

Drasil (580067) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251665)

Laser range finder, preferably in the visible spectrum. Not that I would buy it, I'm not a fan of Apple.

Re:Missing Component... (2, Funny)

Old97 (1341297) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252367)

Great idea, an iPhone mounted on a shark with a friggin' laser beam attached! Bwahahahahaha!

Re:Missing Component... (1)

SkyDude (919251) | more than 5 years ago | (#28253321)

Laser range finder, preferably in the visible spectrum. Not that I would buy it, I'm not a fan of Apple.

Couple it with an "attachment' manufactured by Smith & Wesson. I'd buy it because then the iPhone would definitely be useful.

Re:Missing Component... (2, Insightful)

Timmmm (636430) | more than 5 years ago | (#28254405)

The actual missing component: gyros. We already know from the Wii that it doesn't accelerometers are pretty useless on their own for all but the most basic tasks.

This video illustrates the difference they make:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s19W-MG-whE [youtube.com]

It would be very cool to have a device that integrated GPS, a digital compass, accelerometers and gyros. That would give you all the low and high frequency information you need to accurately locate its position and orientation in real time.

I have an iDea (0)

docbrody (1159409) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251673)

What would be awesome is if you could make reliable phone calls with it..... Conversations on my iPhone are like doing verbal crossword puzzles. I am constantly filling in the blanks.

Re:I have an iDea (2, Interesting)

kannibal_klown (531544) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251759)

Eh, all phones are like that. I was recently in the city in a large building. I guess they had repeaters or amplifiers because I had full (or nearly full) bars on my phone. Yet my calls from my Samsung mobile to the landlines back home were horrid; I was losing a lot of the conversation even while stationary. It was quite curious.

On one hand, I just want a good solid phone that maintains good reception. I don't have MUCH use for all of the bells/whistles like playing MP3s. The camera is fine for the rare occasion when I need to take some snapshots, like if I was just in an accident and want to take pictures of the damage/scene for insurance purposes, but it's pixel-count isn't a selling point for me.

On the other hand I'd like a solid smart phone with a nice screen / interface that syncs well with my laptop for calendar entries, address books, notes, etc. A large library of apps to choose from is also tempting so long as they're useful to me. And if it had WiFi for when I needed to browse (and didn't want to pay for the data) then all-the-better.

Re:I have an iDea (1)

bdcrazy (817679) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251979)

The most likely problem in a large building in a city is the shear number of phones served by one tower. Your phone may have very high signal strength, but it is trying to communicate in a very noisy environment competing with lots of other signals.

Re:I have an iDea (1)

docbrody (1159409) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252089)

Eh, all phones are like that.

Really? So I must have a defective unit then. How else could one explain my wife standing next to me, chatting away while I can't get a damn signal... and yes we are both on AT&T. Claiming that all phones are the same is just absurd. The fact is that some phones have better antennas than others.

I am sure that the iPhone is not the worst, but it is definitely not as good as at least a few blackberries and other brands you can use with AT&T.

So I still maintain that Apple should focus some attention on the phone itself. Apps are great. Location services are great. Multi-touch is great. Music and Video is great. But its called an iPHONE.

Re:I have an iDea (3, Funny)

derGoldstein (1494129) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251821)

Serving as a phone is 17th on the list of iPhone features. Right after "Peggle".

Re:I have an iDea (1)

filthpickle (1199927) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252047)

this got a good laugh from me.....I doubt it's even as high as 17th on my iphone. Although it would be above peggle, I drunkenly bought that on steam one night.

Anyone know if they make an ignition interlock like device that can prevent me from buying games on steam that I'll never play when I'm too drunk to know better?

Re:I have an iDea (1)

docbrody (1159409) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252135)

Anyone know if they make an ignition interlock like device that can prevent me from buying games on steam that I'll never play when I'm too drunk to know better?

Ask and you shall receive (sort of): http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10122946-233.html [cnet.com]

Re:I have an iDea (1)

derGoldstein (1494129) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252155)

I tried using Goggles [blogspot.com] to prevent me from sending embarrassing E-mails when I'm drunk. The problem is that when I'm inebriated, I'm actually better at math...

Retail 2.0 is the next big thing(TM) (0, Offtopic)

saddino (183491) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251681)

Traditional revenue models for pushing consumers to retail are beginning to show their age esp. in their transition to mobile, but app developers are already exploring location-based delivery of coupons and promotions that can be scanned at point of sale (e.g. on the iPhone: CardStar [mycardstar.com] , Coupon Sherpa [couponsherpa.com] ). Things are changing fast and the consumer, as usual, is poised to win.

Re:Retail 2.0 is the next big thing(TM) (2, Insightful)

ground.zero.612 (1563557) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251911)

While the consumer may usually be poised to win; in reality the retailer usually always wins.

steve handjobs (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28251683)

When I think of dirty old men, I think of Ike Thomas and when I think about Ike I get a hard-on that won't quit.

Sixty years ago, I worked in what was once my Grandfather's Greenhouses. Gramps had died a year earlier and Grandma, now in her seventies had been forced to sell to the competition. I got a job with the new owners and mostly worked the range by myself. That summer, they hired a man to help me get the benches ready for the fall planting.

Ike always looked like he was three days from a shave and his whiskers were dirty white, shaded by the brim of his battered felt fedora.

He did not chew tobacco but the corners of his mouth turned down in a way that, at any moment, I expected a trickle of thin, brown juice to creep down his chin. His bushy, brown eyebrows shaded pale, gray eyes.

The old-timer extended his hand, lifted his leg like a dog about to mark a bush and let go the loudest fart I ever heard. The old fellow then winked at me, "Ike Thomas is the name and playing pecker's my game."

I thought he said, "Checkers." I was nineteen, green as grass. I said, "I was never much good at that game."

"Now me," said Ike, "I just love jumping men . . ."

"I'll bet you do."

". . . and grabbing on to their peckers," said Ike.

"I though we were talking about . . ."

"You like jumping old men's peckers?"

I shook my head.

"I reckon we'll have to remedy that." Ike lifted his right leg and let go another tremendous fart. "He said, "We best be getting to work."

That summer of 1941 was a more innocent time. I learned most of the sex I knew from those little eight pager cartoon booklets of comic-page characters going at it. Young men read them in the privacy of an outside john, played with themselves, by themselves and didn't brag about it. Sometimes, we got off with a trusted friend and helped each other out.

Under the greenhouse glass, the temperature sometimes climbed over the hundred degree mark. I had worked stripped to the waist since April and was as brown as a berry. On only his second day on the job and in the middle of August, Ike wore old fashioned overalls. Those and socks in his high-top work shoes was every stitch he wore. When he bent forward, the bib front billowed out and I could see the white curly hairs on his chest and belly.

"Me? I just love to eat pussy!" Ike licked his lips from corner to corner then sticking his tongue out far enough that the tip could touch the end of his nose. He said, A man's not a man till he knows first hand, the flavor of a lady's pussy."

"People do that?"

He winked. "Of course the taste of a hard cock ain't to be sneezed at neither. Now you answer me, yes or no. Does a man's cock taste salty or not?"

"I never . . ."

"Well, old Ike's willing to let you find out."

"No way."

"Just teasing," said Ike. "But don't give me no sass or I'll show you my ass." He winked. "Might show it to you anyway, if you was to ask."

"Why would I do that?"

"Curiosity, maybe. I'm guessing you never had a good piece of man ass."

"I'm no queer."

"Now don't be getting judgmental. Enjoying what's at hand ain't being queer. It's taking pleasure where you find it with anybody willing." Ike slipped a hand into the side slit of his overalls and I could tell he was fondling and straightening out his cock. "Now I admit I got me a hole that satisfied a few guys."

I swallowed, hard.

Ike winked. "Care to be asshole buddies?"

***

We worked steadily until noon. Ike drew a worn pocket watch from the bib pocket of his loose overalls and croaked, "Bean time. But first its time to reel out our limber hoses and make with the golden arches before lunch."

I followed Ike to the end of the greenhouse where he stopped at the outside wall of the potting shed. He opened his fly, fished inside, and finger-hooked a soft white penis with a pouting foreskin puckered half an inch past the hidden head.

"Yes sir," breathed Ike, "this old peter needs some draining." He exhaled a sigh as a strong, yellow stream splattered against the boards and ran down to soak into the earthen floor.

He caught me looking down at him. He winked. "Like what you're viewing, Boy?"

I looked away.

"You taking a serious interest in old Ike's pecker?"

I shook my head.

"Well you just haul out yourn and let old Ike return the compliment."

Feeling trapped and really having to go, I fumbled at my fly, turned away slightly, withdrew my penis and strained to start.

"Take your time boy. Let it all hang out. Old Ike's the first to admit that he likes looking at another man's pecker." He flicked away the last drop of urine and shook his limp penis vigorously.

I tried not to look interested.

"Yes sir, this old peepee feels so good out, I just might leave it out." He turned to give me a better view.

"What if somebody walks in?"

Ike shrugged. He looked at my strong yellow stream beating against the boards and moved a step closer. "You got a nice one,boy."

I glanced over at him. His cock was definitely larger and beginning to stick straight out. I nodded toward his crotch. "Don't you think you should put that away?"

"I got me strictly a parlor prick," said Ike. "Barely measures six inches." He grinned. "Of course it's big enough around to make a mouthful." He ran a thumb and forefinger along its length and drawing his foreskin back enough to expose the tip of the pink head. "Yersiree." He grinned, revealing nicotine stained teeth. "It sure feels good, letting the old boy breathe."

I knew I should button up and move away. I watched his fingers moving up and down the thickening column.

"You like checking out this old man's cock?"

I nodded. In spite of myself, my cock began to swell.

"Maybe we should have ourselves a little pecker pulling party." Ike slid his fingers back and forth on his expanding shaft and winked. "I may be old but I'm not against doing some little pud pulling with a friend."

I shook my head.

"Maybe I'll give my balls some air. Would you like a viewing of old Ike's hairy balls?"

I swallowed hard and moistened my dry lips.

He opened another button on his fly and pulled out his scrotum. "Good God, It feels good to set 'em free. Now let's see yours."

"Why?"

"Just to show you're neighborly," said Ike.

"I don't think so." I buttoned up and moved into the potting shed.

Ike followed, his cock and balls protruding from the front of his overalls. "Overlook my informality." Ike grinned. "As you can see I ain't bashful."

I nodded and took my sandwich from the brown paper bag.

"Yessir," said Ike. "I just might have to have myself an old fashioned peter pulling all by my lonesome. He unhooked a shoulder strap and let his overalls drop around his ankles.

I took a bite of my sandwich but my eyes remained on Ike.

"Yessiree," said Ike, "I got a good one if I do say so myself. Gets nearly as hard as when I was eighteen. You know why?"

I shook my head.

"Cause I keep exercising him. When I was younger I was pulling on it three time a day. Still like to do him every day I can."

"Some say you'll go blind if you do that too much."

"Bull-loney!" Don't you believe that shit. I been pulling my pud for close to fifty years and I didn't start till I was fifteen."

I laughed.

"You laughing at my little peter, boy?"

"Your hat." I pointed to the soiled, brown fedora cocked on his head. That and his overalls draped about his ankles were his only items of apparel. In between was a chest full of gray curly hair, two hairy legs. Smack between them stood an erect, pale white cock with a tip of foreskin still hiding the head.

"I am one hairy S.O.B.," said Ike.

"I laughed at you wearing nothing but a hat."

"Covers up my bald spot," said Ike. "I got more hair on my ass than I got on my head. Want to see?"

"Your head?"

"No, Boy, my hairy ass and around my tight, brown asshole." He turned, reached back with both hands and parted his ass cheeks to reveal the small, puckered opening. "There it is, Boy, the entrance lots of good feelings. Tell me, Boy, how would you like to put it up old Ike's ass?"

"I don't think so."

"That'd be the best damned piece you ever got."

"We shouldn't be talking like this."

"C'mon now, confess, don't this make your cock perk up a little bit?"

"I reckon," I confessed.

"You ever seen an old man's hard cock before," asked Ike.

"My grandpa's when I was twelve or thirteen."

"How'd that come about?"

He was out in the barn and didn't know I was around. He dropped his pants. It was real big he did things to it. He saw me and he turned around real fast but I saw it."

"What did your grandpa do?"

"He said I shouldn't be watching him doing that. He said something like grandma wouldn't give him some,' that morning and that I should get out of there and leave a poor man in peace to do what he had to do."

"Did you want to join him."

"I might have if he'd asked. He didn't."

"I like showing off my cock," said Ike. "A hard-on is something I always been proud of. A hard-on proves a man's a man. Makes me feel like a man that can do things." He looked up at me and winked. "You getting a hard-on from all this talk, son?"

I nodded and looked away.

"Then maybe you should pull it out and show old Ike what you got."

"We shouldn't."

"Hey. A man's not a man till he jacked off with a buddy."

I wanted to but I was as nervous as hell.

Ike grinned and fingered his pecker. "C'mon, Boy, between friends, a little cock showing is perfectly fine. Lets see what you got in the cock and balls department."

In spite of my reluctance, I felt the stirring in my crotch. I had curiosity that needed satisfying. It had been a long, long time since I had walked in on my grandfather .

"C'mon let's see it all."

I shook my head.

"You can join the party anytime, said Ike. "Just drop your pants and pump away."

I had the urge. There was a tingling in my crotch. My cock was definitely willing and I had a terrible need to adjust myself down there. But my timidity and the strangeness of it all held me back.

Hope you don't mind if I play out this hand." Ike grinned. "It feels like I got a winner."

I stared at his gnarled hand sliding up and down that pale, white column and I could not look away. I wet my lips and shook my head.

Old Ike's about to spout a geyser." Ike breathed harder as he winked. "Now if I just had a long finger up my ass. You interested, boy?"

I shook my head.

The first, translucent, white glob crested the top of his cock and and arced to the dirt floor. Ike held his cock at the base with thumb and forefinger and tightened noticeably with each throb of ejaculation until he was finished.

I could not believe any man could do what he had done in front of another human being.

Ike sighed with pleasure and licked his fingers. "A man ain't a man till he's tasted his own juices."

He squatted, turned on the faucet and picked up the connected hose. He directed the water between his legs and on to his still dripping prick and milked the few remaining drops of white, sticky stuff into the puddle forming at his feet. "Cool water sure feels good on a cock that just shot its wad," said Ike.

***

"Cock-tale telling time," said Old Ike. It was the next day and he rubbed the front of his dirty,worn overalls where his bulge made the fly expand as his fingers smoothed the denim around the outline of his expanding cock.

I wasn't sure what he had in mind but I knew it wasn't something my straight-laced Grandma would approve of.

"Don't you like taking your cock out and jacking it?" Ike licked his lips.

I shook my head in denial.

"Sure you do. A young man in his prime has got to be pulling his pud."

I stared at his calloused hand moving over the growing bulge at his crotch.

"Like I said," continued Ike, "I got me barely six inches when he's standing up." He winked at me. "How much you got, son?"

"Almost seven inches . . ." I stuttered. "Last time I measured."

"And I'm betting it feels real good with your fist wrapped around it."

"I don't do . . ."

"Everybody does it." He scratched his balls and said,"I'll show you mine if you show me yours." Then, looking me in the eye, he lifted his leg like a dog at a tree and let out a long, noisy fart.

Denying that I jacked off, I said, "I saw yours yesterday."

"A man has got to take out his pecker every once in a while." He winked and his fingers played with a button on his fly. Care to join me today?"

"I don't think so."

"What's the matter, boy? You ashamed of what's hanging 'tween your skinny legs?"

"It's not for showing off."

"That would be so with a crowd of strangers but with a friend, in a friendly showdown, where's the harm?

"It shouldn't be shown to other people. My Grandma said that a long time ago when I went to the bathroom against a tree when I was seven.

"There's nothing like a joint pulling among friends to seal a friendship," said Ike.

I don't think so." I felt very much, ill at ease.

"Then what the fuck is it for," demanded the old man. "A good man shares his cock with his friends. How old are you boy?"

"Nineteen almost twenty."

You ever fucked a woman?"

"No."

"Ever fucked a man?"

"Of course not.

"Son, you ain't never lived till you've fired your load up a man's tight ass."

"I didn't know men did that to each other."

"Men shove it up men's asses men all the time. They just don't talk about it like they do pussy."

"You've done that?"

"I admit this old pecker's been up a few manholes. More than a few hard cocks have shagged this old ass over the years." He shook his head, wistfully, "I still have a hankering for a hard one up the old dirt chute."

"I think that would hurt."

"First time, it usually does," agreed Ike. He took a bite from his sandwich.

I looked at my watch. Ten minutes of our lunch hour had already passed.

"We got time for a quickie," said Ike. "There's no one around to say, stop, if were enjoying ourselves."

He unhooked the slide off the button of one shoulder-strap, pushed the bib of his overalls down to let them fall to his feet.

"Showtime," said Ike. Between his legs, white and hairy, his semi-hard cock emerged from a tangled mass of brown and gray pubic hair. The foreskin, still puckered beyond the head of the cock, extended downward forty-five degrees from the horizontal but was definitely on the rise.

I could only stare at the man. Until the day before, I had never seen an older man with an erection besides my grandpa.

Ike moved his fingers along the stalk of his manhood until the head partially emerged, purplish and broad. He removed his hand for a moment and it bobbled obscenely in the subdued light of the potting shed. Ike leaned back against a bin of clay pots like a model on display. "Like I said, boy, it gets the job done."

I found it difficult not to watch. "You shouldn't . . ."

"C'mon, boy. Show Ike your pecker. I'm betting it's nice and hard."

I grasped my belt and tugged on the open end. I slipped the waistband button and two more before pushing down my blue jeans and shorts down in one move. My cock bounced and slapped my belly as I straightened."

"That's a beaut." Ike stroked his pale, white cock with the purplish-pink head shining. "I'm betting it'll grow some more if you stroke it."

"We really shouldn't . . ."

"Now don't tell me you never stroked your hard peter with a buddy."

"I've done that," I finally admitted,. "But he was the same age as me and it was a long time ago." I though back to the last time Chuck and me jerked each other off in the loft of our old barn. Chuck wanted more as a going away present and we had sucked each other's dicks a little bit.

"Jackin's always better when you do it with somebody," said Ike. "Then you can lend each other a helping hand."

"I don't know about that," I said.

Ike's hand continued moving on his old cock as he leaned over to inspect mine. "God Damn! Boy. That cock looks good enough to eat." Ike licked his lips. "You ever had that baby sucked?"

I shook my head as I watched the old man stroke his hard, pale cock.

"Well boy, I'd say you're packing a real mouthful for some lucky gal or guy." He grinned. "Well c'mon. Let's see you get down to some serious jacking. Old Ike's way ahead of you."

I wrapped my fist around my stiff cock and moved the foreskin up and over the head on the up stroke. On the down stroke the expanded corona of the angry, purple head stared obscenely at the naked old man.

Ike toyed with his modest six inches. "What do you think of this old man's cock?" His fist rode down to his balls and a cockhead smaller than the barrel stared back at mine.

"I guess I'm thinking this is like doing it with my grandpa."

"You ever wish you could a done this with your grandpa?"

"I thought about it a lot."

"Ever see him with a hard-on."

"I told you about that!"

"Ever think about him doing your grandma?"

"I can't imagine her ever doing anything with a man.

"Take my word for it, sonny, we know she did it or you wouldn't be here." Begrudgingly I nodded in agreement.

"Everybody fucks," said old Ike. "They fuck or they jack off."

"If you say so."

"Say sonny, your cocks getting real juicy with slickum. Want old Ike to lick some of it away?"

"You wouldn't."

Ike licked his lips as he kept his hand pistoning up and down his hard cock. "You might be surprised what old Ike might do if he was in the mood for a taste of what comes out of a hard cock."

And that is what he proceeded to do. He sucked me dry.

Then he erupted in half-a-dozen spurts shooting out and onto the dirt floor of the potting shed. He gave his cock a flip and shucked t back into his overalls. He unwrapped a sandwich from its wax paper and proceed to eat without washing his hands. He took a bite and chewed. "Nothing like it boy, a good jacking clears the cobwebs from your crotch and gives a man an appetite."

***

The following day, We skipped the preliminaries. We dropped our pants. Ike got down on his knees and sucked me until I was hard and good and wet before he stood and turned.

"C'mon boy, Shove that pretty cock up old Ike's tight, brown hole and massage old Ike's prostate.

Ike bent forward and gripped the edge of the potting bench. The lean, white cheeked buttocks parted slightly and exposed the dark brown, crinkly, puckered star of his asshole "Now you go slow and ease it along until you've got it all the way in," he cautioned. "This old ass craves your young cock but it don't want too much too soon. You've got to let this old hole stretch to accommodate you."

"Are you sure you want to do this?"

"Easy boy, easy," he cautioned. "You feel a lot bigger than you look. Put a little more spit in your cock."

"It's awfully tight. I don't know if it's going to go or not."

"It'll go," said Ike. "There's been bigger boys than you up the old shit chute."

I slipped in the the last few inches.. "It's all in."

"I can tell," said Ike. "Your cock hairs are tickling my ass."

"Are you ready," I asked.

"How are you liking old Ike's hairy asshole so far?"

"It's real tight."

"Tighter than your fist?"

"Might be."

"Ready to throw a fuck into a man that reminds you of your grandpa."

"I reckon."

"I want you should do old Ike one more favor."

"What?"

While you're pumpin' my ass, would you reach around and play with my dick like you would your own? Would you do that for an old man?"

I reached around and took hold of his hard cock sticking out straight in front of him. I pilled the skin back and then pulled it up and over the expanded glans. I felt my own cock expand inside him as I manipulated his staff in my fingers. I imagined that my cock extended through him and I was playing with what came out the other side of him.

"C'mon, boy, ram that big cock up the old shitter and make me know it. God Damn! tickle that old prostate and make old Ike come!"

I came. And I came. Ike's tightened up on my cock and I throbbed Roman Candle bursts into that brown hole as I pressed into him. His hairy, scrawny ass flattened against my crotch and we were joined as tightly as two humans can be.

"A man's not a man till he's cum in another man." said old Ike. "You made it, boy. But still, a man's not a man till he's had a hard cock poked up his ass at least once."

Every time I think of that scene, I get another hard-on. Then I remember the next day when old Ike returned the favor.

I never have managed to come that hard again. If only Ike were here.

The new iPhone can also be used as a paperweight (3, Interesting)

derGoldstein (1494129) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251767)

How many of these articles are going to keep making it on /.?
Last time the iPhone was used to make the cover art of some magazine, which was of course comparable to the moon landing.

I know that this sounds like trolling, and by some definitions it may be, but I think that even an objective reader (someone who *isn't* sick of hearing how the iPhone cured cancer) would find this particular "article" incredibly pandering.

If I were *looking* for hype and gimmicks, there's always digg.

Re:The new iPhone can also be used as a paperweigh (4, Funny)

darthnoodles (831210) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252005)

In related news, for the first time ever an iPhone was used in a colonoscopy to detect cancer. Using the sleek design to its advantage the device was able to "get in there" and take the photos required. The doctors said it was a success...the patient said "Ow!"

Re:The new iPhone can also be used as a paperweigh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28252171)

Last time the iPhone was used to make the cover art of some magazine, which was of course comparable to the moon landing.

Actually it was the New Yorker and on no other device can you paint with as well as the iPhone/iPod Touch. The best I could do with my BB is take a picture.

Re:The new iPhone can also be used as a paperweigh (2, Informative)

derGoldstein (1494129) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252257)

no other device can you paint with as well as the iPhone/iPod Touch

You should've conditioned that statement with something like "at that price point" or "of that size". As it is, I can simply say: a Tablet PC has better resolution, accuracy, software, and likely will not destroy your eyes when you use it to paint on the fly.

Re:The new iPhone can also be used as a paperweigh (0, Redundant)

PitaBred (632671) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252855)

You can pocket your tablet PC? Amazing!

The point is that the iPhone is a device capable of all kinds of neat things, even if it's not the absolute best at any one thing. Jack of all trades, if you will. I mean, a Canon EOS 5D Mark II will take MUCH better pictures than a silly iPhone. Why would you even take pictures with a phone when the camera is so much better? Even if you're a master of none, being a Jack of all trades really makes for an interesting device that lets you do things you can't do with anything else.

Re:The new iPhone can also be used as a paperweigh (1)

derGoldstein (1494129) | more than 5 years ago | (#28253003)

You can pocket your tablet PC? Amazing!

Did you read the comment you replied to? I explicitly said: You should've conditioned that statement with something like "at that price point" or "of that size". The comment I replied to stated "no other device can you paint with as well as the iPhone/iPod Touch", which, verbatim, was an obviously false statement. I even gave two example conditions under which he could have made that argument, one of which to latched on to.

Read. Then Reply.

Re:The new iPhone can also be used as a paperweigh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28255905)

Who the fuck said anything about pocketing a tablet PC? Are you reading the post or listening to the voices in your head?

Re:The new iPhone can also be used as a paperweigh (1)

inline_four (594390) | more than 5 years ago | (#28254597)

I believe there already is a device that can be used to draw and to point: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencil [wikipedia.org]

Unless you bitch in all the other threads... (1, Flamebait)

Tokerat (150341) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252509)

...about device news, you're trolling. You don't like it because it's Apple, and it's expensive. You're not entirely familiar with the OS it runs, and some douchebag in Starbucks brags about how productive and virus-free he is because he bought "the BMW of computers".

Not all of us Mac users are like that, and the iPhone isn't a Mac at all. It is very well designed; so well so in fact that it inspires people to make these kinds of "discoveries"; we realize these things are not new because we read Slashdot, which is good enough to give us LOTS to read, including news about cutting edge research to make phones into real-life pointing devices. Now that the iPhone is gaining popularity not just with the super-business-savvy Blackberry crowd, or the yet-to-exist-in-significant-numbers-Android crowd, but with everyone, these ideas can be realized en-masse, which is much more exciting, even if the first attempt at it fails.

In the meantime, I'll see you in 2024, when the next moon landing occurs and Skynet takes over, because apparently events of that type of significance are the only thing your narrow mind cares to read about. PS: You can turn off updates regarding Apple, you know. Mod as Flamebait if you will, but the parent in NO WAY deserves +5 Interesting.

Re:Unless you bitch in all the other threads... (1)

tsa (15680) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252647)

He DOES deserve +5, Mr or Ms fanboi. The iPhone is way too much overhyped, and posting an article from 2007 now makes no sense at all. I like Apple stuff, but you can only write so much about a product before you exhaust yourself.

Re:Unless you bitch in all the other threads... (1)

Tokerat (150341) | more than 5 years ago | (#28263023)

He DOES deserve +5, Mr or Ms fanboi. The Linux Kernel is way too much overhyped, and posting an article from 2007 now makes no sense at all. I like GNU stuff, but you can only write so much about a product before you exhaust yourself.

O RLY? All tech news is equal, but some tech news is more equal than others.

Re:Unless you bitch in all the other threads... (1)

derGoldstein (1494129) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252847)

Not all of us Mac users are like that, and the iPhone isn't a Mac at all.

I think you've extrapolated a bit too far. Who said anything about the Mac or Mac users? And by "like that" do you mean the example you gave about the "douchebag in Starbucks"?
We could get into a whole debate about Macs, and normally I would, but in this case I really didn't say anything but point out a clear hype-laden story that got on slashdot. It has nothing to do with Macs. It's just of poor quality and I'm surprised that articles relating to the iPhone seem to get a push simply for including the word "iPhone". And no, I don't turn off Apple-related updates because many/most of them do interest me.

But here's what you got right, as far as guessing my opinions:
1) Apples are expensive.
2) I'm not entirely familiar with OSX.
Neither of these opinions have anything to do with my comment.

Re:Unless you bitch in all the other threads... (0, Troll)

Hognoxious (631665) | more than 5 years ago | (#28253701)

just sew a button on it, you big ponce.

This just in: iPhone can detect gravity (3, Funny)

Aceticon (140883) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252543)

This just in:

"Stunned users have discovered yet another feature of the iPhone - it can be used as a gravity detection device.

iPhone owner and fan John Smith from Los Angeles CA told us of his surprise at discovering this surprising feature on his iPhone: 'It was incredible, I just opened my hand and instantly my iPhone started accelerating in the same direction as the local gravitational field - I never noticed that my iPhone could do this before' - he told us while sipping a triple-shot Cafe Mocha.

From testimonies by other users, it seems that this feature in the iPhone shows itself whenever it is released at a distance from any surface.

Combine this with the new 3.0 iPhone OS and interesting things are certainly going to happen. Steve Jobs said that the iPhone will change the world when he presented it back in 2007, and that is exactly what it will do."

Re:This just in: iPhone can detect gravity (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28254381)

Not only just that, it can also be used as a telephone. The iPhone is truly amazing, it is 21 things in one:
mp3 player
video game console
movie player
tv show player
email box
movie trailer player
photo album
calculator
movie camera
pointing device
cow bell
photographic camera
digital beer mug
interweb browser
digital aquarium
paperweight
flashlight
vibrator
pointing device for the real world
directional gravity quantizer
telephone

wow... 21 many things in one single package. Steve Jobs said the iPhone will change the world, and it has already changed the world. No longer will people have to carry a backpack full of clumsy easily broken gadgets: the iPhone does it all. I'm fascinated. How can they cram so many things into one thing?

On other news: I bought a fancy 4-in-1 bowl last week, it is a pasta bowl that is also a cereal bowl AND can be easily converted into a salad bowl by putting salad in it. Not only that, but in just seconds it can be transformed into a soup bowl! I was skeptical at first, but I saw it with my own eyes, and now I am a believer! It's a 4-in-1 bowl... amazing, what will they come up with next? I heard The Bowl 2.0 will also turn into a fruit bowl. I'm saving up so I can get the new one as soon as it comes out.

Re:The new iPhone can also be used as a paperweigh (1)

Ltap (1572175) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252719)

How many of these articles are going to keep making it on /.? Last time the iPhone was used to make the cover art of some magazine, which was of course comparable to the moon landing.

I know that this sounds like trolling, and by some definitions it may be, but I think that even an objective reader (someone who *isn't* sick of hearing how the iPhone cured cancer) would find this particular "article" incredibly pandering.

If I were *looking* for hype and gimmicks, there's always digg.

I agree. They seem to be posted here all the time, and show the iPhone as having these amazing new features, features that have often already been done. I don't have a problem with it - I just think that it isn't balanced (i.e.: seeing who has already done/is working on that feature).

Re:The new iPhone can also be used as a paperweigh (1)

hurfy (735314) | more than 5 years ago | (#28253389)

oh well, i only made it to the 2nd paragraph

"What is the right way? Unobtrusive delivery of well targeted ads."

It WILL make a great pointing device...point the index finger of the hand holding iPhone toward point of interest and spread the other fingers open to indicate....err...oops

Re:The new iPhone can also be used as a paperweigh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28253663)

Last time the iPhone was used to make the cover art of some magazine, which was of course comparable to the moon landing.

You mean it never actually happened, and was all faked somewhere in Neva$36%
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Re:The new iPhone can also be used as a paperweigh (1)

recharged95 (782975) | more than 5 years ago | (#28254063)

Because Apple pays a lot for advertising and building the brand name. Taking a chapter out of P&G and Disney, it's about building the brand/image and time to market--not delivering a superior product.

.

It is annoying these articles get on the FP of /. -- I mean the Google/Tmo G1 and some S60 phones already do what we're talking here. It's nothing new, oh except that it's 'the iPhone'.

Re:The new iPhone can also be used as a paperweigh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28254109)

Articles of this kind do belong on Slashdot because perceptions mean more to your paycheck than reality.

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The article is speculative futurism, but seeing around corners is a worthwhile enterprise, esp. for computer scientists wondering where to invest a finite amount of time learning new technologies.

If you prefer hard data about what has really happened in the past, 40 million sold is worth thinking about. The just announced number includes the iPod Touch, but still. That's a lot of paperweights.

Re:The new iPhone can also be used as a paperweigh (1)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 5 years ago | (#28254783)

The iPhone cured cancer, but causes digestive problems. Steve is recovering nicely now though, they fixed that in the new iPhone for this year.

Re:The new iPhone can also be used as a paperweigh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28255443)

Well right now Digg is looking a lot more for Nerds, Science and practical articles.

Riyadh Shows First Movie in Decades
How the Mind Controls Pain
Will Einstein's Laws Apply Beyond Our Universe?
iPhone 3GS announced!
Pro-Western Bloc Defeats Hezbollah in Lebanon Vote
Dr Who fan buried in Tardis coffin with flashing blue light
Timeline: 40 years of Unix
EXCLUSIVE VIDEO: Tesla's Electric Sedan, the 2011 Model S watch!

Probably would need to point the headphone jack (1)

sean.peters (568334) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251771)

If you wanted the magnetometer to work, you'd probably have to point the headphone jack at it... I doubt it would get a very good magnetic signal unless the device was more or less horizontal. YMMV near the magnetic poles, though.

Re:Probably would need to point the headphone jack (1)

PPH (736903) | more than 5 years ago | (#28253451)

Or it might incorporate a three axis magnetometer. That'll work in any orientation (although the periodic calibration procedure might be a bit involved).

Is nru already doing this? (1)

fruey (563914) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251777)

http://lastminutelabs.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/android-app-nru-launches-in-the-usa [wordpress.com] => an Android app that uses Compass, GPS and location services to point you to bars, restaurants, hotels...

You mean like Nokia Maps? (1)

Colin Smith (2679) | more than 5 years ago | (#28254601)

Which has been available (free) on Nokia mobiles for... I don't know... ever. What is forever in software years? 2 years?

 

Re:You mean like Nokia Maps? (1)

tpholland (968736) | more than 5 years ago | (#28256289)

Yes, Nokia make some amazing stuff, like that web server I had running on my phone, what, two and a half years ago. The problem is that the department responsible for communicating the more cutting-edge of what they do is based in a secret bunker under the Finnish tundra, and have the national shyness in spades.

the iPhone does not have a compass (1)

alheim (1069926) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251803)

.. as the summary incorrectly states. there are only rumors that the next iPhone may have a compass, or "magnetometer"

Re:the iPhone does not have a compass (1)

alheim (1069926) | more than 5 years ago | (#28254255)

replying to myself, they just announced that the new iPhone 3GS will have a compass.

Word for...to trim. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28251811)

"If you have a team of writers that number in the millions that generate geolocated high quality content for free, what local newspaper will be able to compete with that?"

The ones that have an editor.

ultimate real world pointer (1)

jollyreaper (513215) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251855)

The only part of the supergun the Army was looking into that I thought was neat was the use of onboard laser and GPS to send fire orders. If you see the target, you can lase it, know it's exact position on the grid coordinates and rounds can be incoming in seconds. That's a pointer!

Re:ultimate real world pointer (2, Informative)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 5 years ago | (#28251981)

Or just learn how to read a map and call off your coordinates over the radio. It's not hard* and saves taxpayers money.

*Disclaimer: I used to teach mapping in the Marine Corps. YMMV. If you have trouble counting or following bold straight lines on a map, this may be extremely difficult.

Re:ultimate real world pointer (1)

kannibal_klown (531544) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252107)

Or just learn how to read a map and call off your coordinates over the radio. It's not hard* and saves taxpayers money.

*Disclaimer: I used to teach mapping in the Marine Corps. YMMV. If you have trouble counting or following bold straight lines on a map, this may be extremely difficult.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but no matter how well you read the map... isn't lazing the target is more precise.

It could mean the difference between hitting the target head-on vs striking next to it. Or hitting/entering the entrance vs striking the wall of the cave/bunker/warehouse. Plus, doesn't it also allow for the following of slow-moving targets?

Depending on the ordinance vs the armor, it might make the difference.

Re:ultimate real world pointer (2, Interesting)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252289)

Yeah, depends on the target. If you're bombing a hilltop, lasing provides far more accuracy than needed. Military Grid Reference System (MGRS) is usually used in 6, 8, or 10 digit numbers. a 6 digit grid gives a 100 meter square on the ground, which is good enough for ground navigation and targeting of things like hilltops. An 8 digit grid gives a 10 meter square, which is good enough for most buildings. 10 digit grids give a 1 meter square, which are used for targeting extensively. You could denote not just a building, but which window or smokestack. Sounds cool, but it's usually more accuracy than you need. You can easily read a 6 digit grid off a tactical 1:50,000 map, or even an 8 digit grid with some practice. Like I said, for most targets, that's good enough. It's not sexy, but it works. Everybody's got GPS in the field these days though, so I guess it's kind of moot.

You also have to look at the accuracy of the weapons systems involved. All those precision strikes you see on the news mask all the misses, some if which are way off. It doesn't do much good to lase a target if you can't reliably hit it.

Re:ultimate real world pointer (1)

PitaBred (632671) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252903)

What about speed, though? It's a hell of a lot faster to lase a target than it is to find it, then look it up on a map. From a distance, what do you do... estimate? Hope your maps are correct? Or would you rather have your GPS tied to a laser and a compass, and just "point and click", the target is instantly identified? A moving convoy, that's gonna be the difference between hitting them and hitting near them.

Re:ultimate real world pointer (1)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 5 years ago | (#28253347)

I can see costs going down eventually, but current lasing systems are expensive and I don't think the costs justify the small additional capability. The lasers used to lase targets are not the same as the ones in pointers or the ones they used in Transformers. They're very powerful and need to be detected from long distance. Plus the whole package has to be durable, waterproof, rugged, etc. And for a laser with a glass tube (the only kind around AFAIK), this means a lot of expensive packaging. I'm not convinced the benefits are worth the cost, given how effective low cost solutions are.

And again, depending on the targeting system, calling it up on the radio is fine. Think about the scene in Transformers again. They call in the target, A-10 Warthogs roll in, see the target in the vicinity, and shoot it. They used lasers in the movie, but they aren't necessary when you can physically see the target and are shooting it with bullets vice missiles.

Re:ultimate real world pointer (1)

PitaBred (632671) | more than 5 years ago | (#28254153)

What about shooting shells over a hill, though? Sure, call in air support, but why not bring some mortars in and target them appropriately? Oh, and it depends on the distance, but you can get commerical-grade laser rangefinders [profession...ipment.com] for $440, and they're accurate to +/- 1 yard at up to 930 yards. That's not too bad, or too expensive. Hook up some simple mems (like an iPhone) to get inclination and such, GPS and a compass for direction, and you have a very cheap targeting device. Couple thousand more at most to get it ruggedized for military use, and you have a nice over-hill targeting system that'll let you lob mortars onto enemies from a pretty good distance while exposing yourself minimally. And if the enemy's on the move, that's where the fast targeting transmission comes in.

Re:ultimate real world pointer (1)

oodaloop (1229816) | more than 5 years ago | (#28254479)

A laser ranger finder is different from a laser target designator, which is what "lasing" refers to. When you "lase" a target, you are bouncing a special laser off a target so that another system (perhaps very far away) can detect the reflected light and zero in on the source (this is what they were trying to show in Transformers, but with the wrong kind of laser). A laser range finder will bounce a laser off a target back to you and tell you far away it is. Two entirely different systems. I think this difference in definition of "lasing" is what is causing the confusion. A system like one you are describing is certainly useful for some applications, but it does not compare to, nor could it replace current laser target designation systems.

But in any case, why would mortars need GPS or a compass? You have to point it towards the enemy manually, load it manually, and adjust the inclination manually. Having more information digitally wouldn't help.

Oh yes. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28251955)

"Interesting things is certainly going to happen" indeed!

Want to get rid of the reality distortion field and all the hype? Sorry, there's not an app for that.

Re:Oh yes. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28253129)

First app fanboi "Zrop" should download: grammar checker.

letter to the editor (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28252159)

Dear Editors,
Thanks for posting this article from a "news" site.

Actually, at second look it's just some retard's blog.

Please do not encourage blogging as a "news" source.

Thanks

Mod -10^1000 / insane (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28252167)

Oh my good, visionary...

Point? (1)

skyriser2 (179031) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252309)

What's the "point"? :)

Oh Dear Lord (3, Insightful)

angryphase (766302) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252335)

I wrote these apps for Windows Mobile, I've writtten a couple for Android, I've even written some into specialized devices using basic GPS Dongles and cellular network access for triangulation.

Now that Apple is doing it, suddenly it's going to CHANGE THE WORLD (tm). Location-based services/applications along with advertising have been looked at before, they failed then, they will fail now. People don't want adverts on their phones, they don't want bluetooth spam or to be bombarded with "Hey, come and enjoy a Pizza half-price at Hungry Joe's" everytime they walk past a pizza restaurant.

The article is poorly written, lacking in experience or significant research into previous implementations and sings the praises of Apple combining their award-winning expertise with this amazing new tech to change the marketplace forever.

Pass me a bucket, mine is full already.

Way to be fashionably late... (3, Interesting)

pwfffff (1517213) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252399)

You've got to be kidding me.

They have a video of Wikitude on the G1 already doing all of this crap in an article HYPING THE IPHONE.

Steve Jobs must have sold his soul to the devil to get his freakishly skilled marketing department.

Android Sky Map (2, Informative)

Speare (84249) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252403)

One of the best apps I've seen that uses the combination of GPS, 3D Accelerometer and Incline-corrected Compass is the "Google Sky Map" available for download. Once started, your phone becomes a window into a 360-degree x 180-degree planetarium dome (a full sphere). Hold the phone straight ahead, and see the virtual horizon line. As you rotate, see the N E S W markers slide into view appropriately in real time. Hold the phone overhead to see the "Zenith" marker, or look through the floor for the "Nadir" marker. Everywhere else on the virtual dome, you see the major stars and constellation lines, planets and other astronomical items. Want to find Jupiter? Select that goal from a menu, and the phone will guide your hand until you're looking in the direction of the current position for Jupiter, even if it's below your feet or behind the sun.

Oh yeah, and it's on the Android phone. For free.

Re:Android Sky Map (1)

Facegarden (967477) | more than 5 years ago | (#28255897)

One of the best apps I've seen that uses the combination of GPS, 3D Accelerometer and Incline-corrected Compass....

Here here!
That app is awesome, and free! :)
It is really truly impressive.
-Taylor

iPhone (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28252561)

iPhone. Small 'i'. Small brains must remember: small 'i'. Thank you, Mz Taco.

LOLWUT? (1)

0xdeadbeef (28836) | more than 5 years ago | (#28252725)

Android did it first [engadget.com] with Street View. There is nothing unique about the iPhone in this regard, every mobile computer with a camera and a network connection is a viable platform.

And the idea itself is twenty years old. Why does fanboy drivel like this get posted?

Be careful ... (2, Funny)

PPH (736903) | more than 5 years ago | (#28253401)

... at whom [slashdot.org] you point that iPhone. You could start an intergalactic war.

Not because the aliens mistake it for a weapon, but because they prefer the Palm Pre. And you know how these platform wars get out of hand.

Android G1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28256659)

I have been doing a bit of this with the G1 (Android) and it turns out (apparently) there are patents on the concept of - I know where I am and where I'm pointing so tell me information about what is over there.

Magic Wand (1)

greywire (78262) | more than 5 years ago | (#28257689)

Which just reminds me of how I have wanted my Magic Wand for many years now.

I got my PDA back in the day thinking it could come close to this. Replace my remote controls for my TV, etc (can be done, not very well). Or the garage door opener (nope). Calculator (yes). Checkbook and calendar (yes). Laser pen pointer (nope). send/accept phone numbers (sorta). Hold all my personal data, including documents and things that I am working on (sorta). Game controller. Security key for car, computer, house, etc (needs to have also some biometrics to prevent anyone but you from using it).

I want a true personal digital assistant. One device that is the center of interaction for all electronical things around me.

Of course, if you lose it, or it breaks..

Can the iPhone wipe your ass? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 5 years ago | (#28257721)

Seriously, enough already with this thing. It is a phone, not most perfect tool on the entire planet. Think of all the other things in the technology world that are getting no press, because of all the Appl&cent fanbois. How soon before the fanbois ask for tax exempt status for their new religion?

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